Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Tennessee Titans "Same Old, Same Old" WR Problem, OL Starters & MEH Opening Week of Free Agency
Episode Date: March 17, 2023The Tennessee Titans continue to make confusing moves at the wide receiver position. One day after declining to tender Nick Westbrook-Ikhine, the Titans bring him back on a one-year deal. This is just... a repeat of the same old philosophy for the Titans. Also, with two signings on the offensive line, what does the starting line up look like right now and where do the Titans still need additions? Finally, Tyler gives his recap of the first week of free agency and talks about how the Titans have done just...ok.Follow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitans/videosSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.Ultimate Football GMTo download the game just visit Ultimate-GM.com or look it up on the app stores. Our listeners get a 100% free boost to their franchise when using the promo LOCKEDON (ALL CAPS) in the game store.FanDuelMake Every Moment More. Don’t miss the chance to get your No Sweat First Bet up to ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS in Bonus Bets when you go FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I have absolutely had it with how the Tennessee Titans view the wide receiver position.
I'll explain on today's edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
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Titans fans, I am so annoyed with the Titans and their wide receiver position right now.
A day after the Tennessee Titans declined to tender Nick Westbrook-Akene,
they bring him back on a one-year deal.
I'm going to dive into my frustrations with that.
We're also going to talk about what the starting offensive line looks like right now,
and I'll give my end of the first week of free agency recap
of the Titans signings to cap things off.
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And I got to tell you, I'm struggling to get through the intro here
because I'm so frustrated, all right?
And what I'll say up front before I get into my
diatribe here is the Titans have the ability to prove me wrong or the Titans have the ability
to show me that I'm wrong about how I'm viewing things. But yesterday's show, I expressed
excitement, relief, whatever other adjective you want to find that the Titans did not tender Nick Westbrook-Akene
or Cody Hollister as restricted free agents.
They didn't give them a tender.
And I thought, silly me, how naive,
I thought that this was a moment where the Titans are signaling
that they are ready to go with a new philosophy at wide receiver.
But no. But no.
I was wrong because on Thursday,
the Titans brought Nick Westbrook-Akene back on a one-year deal.
Now, got to get this out of the way up front.
How much is it going to cost?
Well, to me, it's pretty obvious what it's going to cost,
and it's going to be less than $2 million
because the restricted free agent tender that
the Titans would have put on Nick Westbrook-Akene is a right of first refusal. Just generic
restricted free agency. You go sign a deal. We have the ability to match it. If not, you go to
that team. Just pure restricted free agency at that point. The Titans said, no, we're not doing
that because if you don't get a deal, we're going to have to pay you $2.6 million. Well, they didn't think that Nick Westbrook-Akene was worth $2.6
million. So they let him go. He thought he could get more than $2.6 million. So he asked the team
not to give him that tender. Well, turns out he couldn't get more than that. And for good reason,
he's barely a rosterable wide receiver in the NFL,
but yet the Titans treat him like a starter.
So, of course, Mike Vrabel's little teacher's pet, Nick Westbrook-Akene,
brought back on a one-year deal.
Look, I acknowledge, very minimal risk here.
It's going to be less than $2 million.
So it's not like the Titans wasted a bunch of money
or wasted a big opportunity on NWI.
But at the end of the day, it's just same old, same old Titans.
And that is what is frustrating to me
when I thought we might be turning a corner.
Mike Vrabel has said multiple times in this offseason,
the Titans need to find guys who get open and catch the ball,
not just block.
He talked about how much the team needed to add speed as well,
especially on offense.
And your response to that is to sign no veteran wide receivers in free agency
and bring back NWI.
So now you have Nick Westbrook-Akene, Traylon Burks in year two
who only played 11 games, Kyle Phillips who only caught eight passes last year. You could be
as high on Kyle Phillips as you want, but why would you trust any of that? Why do you feel
comfortable or secure that the Titans are going to have a much better wide receiver?
Racey McMath, Mason Kinsey, Reggie Roberson. I mean, here's what it comes down to for me.
Here's an analogy for you.
You guys have all watched sports movies.
You've watched a movie like The Replacements,
like what's the baseball movie where the bench warmers,
the Keanu Reeves movie that I liked a lot.
Love it when you call me big pop. I can't think of it right now. My friends would absolutely roast me for not being able
to remember it. But Mike Vrabel coaches
like he's a plucky
upstart, underdog, little league team.
And yeah, we don't need all those guys with talent. We don't need the most
talent. We're going to have guys who work hard, who hustle, who love the team,
who play to the whistle, who play physical.
We're going to have guys with all the intangibles,
and that is going to beat all of the talent that you have.
That is not how life works.
In life, talent wins.
In life, the villains win.
There are no heroes in real life, in the world we live in.
Okay?
This is not the movies.
The plucky underdog team with no talent doesn't win in real life.
All right?
March Madness is going on.
We're going to see some upsets, of course.
But does Cinderella win the title?
No.
Duke, Kansas, Villanova, North Carolina, they win the title.
That's what happens at the end in real life. So I'm just super frustrated. And look, the Titans
could go out, sign another veteran wide receiver. The Titans could go out and trade for a good veteran wide receiver like Brandon Cooks or, you know,
Corlin Sutton or Jerry Judy or DeAndre Hopkins.
Sure, they could go out and make a trade.
They could prove me wrong.
And dear God, I hope so.
Because I would rather be wrong and the Titans get better at wide receiver
than be right and just be sitting here frustrated again for another season
watching Nick Westbrook-Akene get the second
most snaps of any wide receiver on the team.
Look,
there is a Libra scale.
On one side you have intangibles,
on the other you have talent.
I'm 5'5".
I can know the Titans playbook better
than Einstein. I can work
harder than anybody else in the world. I can know the Titans playbook better than Einstein. I can work harder than anybody else in the world.
I can hustle every play and play with physicality.
I can care about the team more than anyone in the universe.
But I don't have enough talent for it to matter.
Nick Westbrook-Akina doesn't have enough talent
for all of that stuff to matter more. Look, some of you guys would say
Paris Campbell, McCall Hardman. Some of these other guys with speed are more concerned. DJ
Chark. DJ Chark missed five games in the middle of the year last year or more. Paris Campbell had
injuries to start the beginning of his career. McCool Hardman only played in eight games last year.
You guys are going to get in there and tell me about the risk of injuries.
What about the risk of having a wide receiver play as much as NWI,
who's not good?
He's a practice squad wide receiver at minimum,
a special teams player.
And the Titans ask him year after year to be a starter,
and they're doing it again.
You can add a wide receiver at number 11.
You can add two wide receivers in the draft.
But that doesn't make this wide receiver group
any better than bottom 10 in the NFL.
Bringing back Nick Westbrook-Akene
is just another sign that it's same old, same old Titans
and Mike Rabel refuses to get out of movie
little league coach status
and actually
get some talent on this team.
Get some talent at wide
receiver. Because look,
if Paris Campbell,
McCall Hardman, DJ Chark,
Darius Slayton, if those guys
get hurt,
then you'll probably have to play a backup wide receiver
but if you stick with Nick Westbrook, Akina
over guys like that
you are already playing a backup wide receiver in NWI
so the downside of taking the risk on those kind of guys
is the reality that the Titans are choosing
again, the Titans could prove me wrong
by going out and making a big trade for a veteran wide receiver.
They could prove me wrong by going out and signing another veteran.
But Chark is visiting the Panthers.
Campbell signed with the Giants.
Darius Slayton got a deal.
Okay, you didn't want to pay money for the top of the market, guys.
I get it.
I'm not asking you to go out and get Jacoby Myers
or asking you to go out and get Odell Beckham
or asking you to go out and get some of the top names at the market.
I'm not asking for Juju Smith-Schuster.
I wanted a value veteran worth a couple million dollars on a one-year deal
just to give you some speed and some talent.
And if it goes right, you have a better wide receiver group.
If you had Traylon Burks, Kyle Phillips, Jackson Smith and Jigba,
and Paris Campbell, and it works, now you are actually better at wide receiver.
So, I'm just frustrated.
I'm sure you guys are frustrated too, but it's just same old, same old Mike Vrabel,
same old, same old Titans with this move,
even if it's low risk.
It's just annoying to me.
But with that being said,
we're going to talk about the offensive line,
where that's at,
what kind of positions the Titans could be putting these guys in as starters.
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I had to take a drink.
I had to wipe the sweat off my brow.
I'm frustrated, man.
I'm frustrated by this.
And look, a lot of you guys are going to get into the comments and say, oh, Nick Westbrook-Akene is a depth wide receiver.
Why are you so upset about wide receiver five or wide receiver four?
We thought that Nick Westbrook-Akene was wide receiver four
or was wide receiver five the last two years.
And guess what?
He wasn't.
He wasn't.
He ended up being a top three wide receiver on the team,
a top two wide receiver in snaps. So now
the Titans are going into the season without a Julio
Jones. Without a Traylon Burks and Kyle Phillips. The Titans don't even
have wide receivers right now that can get injured that would allow
NWI to have an elevated role. They are choosing NWI to have that
elevated role from the start.
It's just absurd.
It's just absurd to me.
You could have brought in Nick Westbrook-Akene on a $1 million,
it'd probably be $1.8, $1.9 million, $1.6, somewhere in there.
You could have brought him in on that deal
and brought in a valid veteran wide receiver that makes sense.
And if that veteran wide receiver with risk gets hurt, you got to end up UI anyways.
So it's just, it's just incredibly perplexing to me that Mike Vrabel hasn't learned from his own
mistakes and learn from his own words. He's told us they need to get faster. They need to get
guys that get open and catch the ball. Nick Westbrook Aquino ran like a 4.68 40 yard dash
coming out of college. It's been years since then. He's been one of the slowest wide receivers in the
NFL for a long time. Oh, he's six foot two, six'3". He's a big body. He should be able to do big physical wide receiver stuff.
All right, the guy can block,
but he was ranked 140th
in contested catch rate in 2022.
140th.
30% of his contested catch opportunities
did he make a catch.
He got targeted 50 times and caught 25 passes.
He doesn't get open.
He doesn't create separation.
And he barely catches the ball.
And when he does, he doesn't do anything with it afterwards.
So what, you're bringing him back because he can block?
I thought that we were past this, man.
I thought that we were past this.
And we're not. But
anyway, just wanted to cap off that
rant to start the show. It's on my mind.
I can't help it. Bother me. And again,
they can prove me wrong.
Going out, getting another
veteran in free agency. Going out and
making a trade before the draft. But
you cannot go to the NFL draft
with just what they have at wide receiver
right now.
Burks, Phillips, NWI, Mason Kinsey, Reggie Roberson, and Racey McMath.
You cannot go into the draft with that being your only wide receivers.
You simply can't do it.
You can't do it.
You can't.
Even two rookies, one at 11 and one in the mid-rounds,
you're still a bottom 10 wide receiver group and not helping your team at all.
So anyways, moving right along to a conversation about the offensive line.
Aaron Brewer brought back on a second round tender.
Well, I mean, he could go out and get a deal from him.
There is not a team in the NFL
who's paying Aaron Brewer $4.3 million.
Maybe in the XFL.
My God. So anyway, what in the XFL. My God.
So anyway, what an overpay for Aaron Brewer.
I would imagine that there wasn't another NFL team
that would have paid him half of that.
They wouldn't have paid him half of that.
So I think that Aaron Brewer should have got
the situation that NWI got.
We're not paying you $2 million.
We'll pay you less than that to come back.
And instead, the Titans paid $4.3 million.
The Titans are paying Aaron Brewer more money to come back than they saved by cutting Ben Jones.
I mean, those two moves, and they're both Mike Vrabel moves.
Those are Mike Vrabel guys.
Mike Vrabel told Rand,
go get those guys back.
Those are my guys.
I love them.
Tougher than a $2 steak, right?
Jesus, man.
Killing me.
But with that being said,
we'll use that as the jump off point.
Aaron Brewer is going to be the starting center next year.
The Titans didn't give him $4.3 million
and bring him back on a second round tender to not start him. Aaron Brewer will be the starting center next year. The Titans didn't give him $4.3 million and bring him back on a second round tender to not
start him. Aaron Brewer will be the starting center next year. That is what they are paying
him to do. They overpaid him by double. They obviously have something in mind for him. So
with Aaron Brewer starting at center, I think that Daniel Brunskill, who was just signed,
is going to be set at right guard. He played
majority of right guard in his career. Yes,
he could play some right tackle. Yes, he could play
some center, but I think that Brunskill was brought
in to fill that right guard position.
You keep NPF at right tackle,
and then Andre Dillard could play left
guard or left tackle. If you draft
Paris Johnson Jr., you kick in
Dillard to left guard. You let PJJ play left tackle. If you draft Paris Johnson Jr., you kick in Dillard to left guard. You let PJJ
play left tackle. If you draft
a Peter Skowronski, you can put
Skowronski at left guard and let Dillard play
left tackle. Either way, Andre Dillard has one of
those left side spots.
Andre Dillard is a left side player.
He can't play right guard or right tackle.
He needs to play on the left side of the ball.
So, either left tackle
or left guard is really the only open position
that I see right now.
And I still think
the Titans need to draft
an offensive lineman
in round one of the NFL draft.
Skowronski,
Paris Johnson Jr.,
Broderick Jones.
If you don't feel comfortable
with those guys,
then sure,
I think it's ill-advised,
but then sure, trade down down get Darnell Wright for example
Jalen Duncan
later in the draft
Anton Harrison out of Oklahoma
you're going to have options
alright so
either way I still think the Titans need to
attack offensive line I don't see any
long term answers
at offensive line for the Titans any blank of the future for the Titans need to attack offensive line. I don't see any long-term answers at offensive line
for the Titans, any blank of the future for the Titans. They still need to add all that. None of
the signings that they have made address any concern of mine for the next four years. They're
all short-term band-aid signings, all right? And that's okay. And that's okay and that's okay depending on what direction the Titans want to go but at offensive line
to me it's obvious
that that is the four of five
starters NPF at right tackle
Brunskill at right guard
Brewer at center open spot on
the left side Dillard at left tackle
now we can talk about
Dylan Radins all you guys get in the comments
and bring up Dylan Radins all the time
the dude tore his ACL in the comments and bring up Dylan Radins all the time.
The dude tore his ACL in week 15 and Mike Vrabel hates him. Mike Vrabel let Dennis Daly go out at left tackle all season long without giving Dylan Radins, who was a second round pick left tackle,
a chance to play there. Dylan Radins plays there for 10 snaps and is far and away better than
Dennis Daly and then tears his ACL.
So I'm sorry
but how
Dylan Radins didn't get a
chance before week 15
to play left tackle
while Dennis Daly was wrecking the team
the only
logical answer because Radins was
healthy the only logical answer is Mike Vrabel just can't stand the guy
it's personal he doesn't want him to play
so why would that change
and he's coming off an ACL tear late in the season
guys I am not fact
you won't hear me factor Dylan Radins into the offensive line conversation
at all period
I'm not going to factor him in the entire season
so don't go
in the comments and put, what about Dylan
Radins? Because that's just
irresponsibly illogical
in my opinion. But, outside
of that, I mean,
you're talking about
Xavier Newman.
You're talking about
John LeGlue,
Jordan Roosos Zachary Johnson
I mean what are we talking about here guys?
These are a bunch of people who outside of Raidens
I mean they shouldn't even make the roster
I mean maybe Xavier Newman Johnson
but Roos, Leglu, Zach Johnson
these guys are fighting for their NFL lives
they'll be lucky if they make the practice squad
so these aren't starting options for the Titans.
So we know what the starting options are.
Run skill at guard, right guard, NPF at right tackle,
Aaron Brewer at center, opening on the left side,
probably have Andre Dillard at left tackle.
So I think one, whether you're happy with that or not,
that's how you feel. But I think one draft pick you're happy with that or not, that's how you feel.
But I think one draft pick in the NFL draft early
will be your next starter.
And then I think the Titans would be wise
to add another offensive lineman in the mid rounds.
Even if they don't beat out,
let them compete with Aaron Brewer.
I think John Michael Schmitz or Josh Weitler
would beat out Aaron Brewer. Heck, I'd take Juice Scruggs in Weitler would beat out Aaron Brewer.
Heck, I'd take Juice Scruggs in the sixth round to beat out Aaron Brewer.
Now, I'm not the coach, and Mike Vrabel loves Aaron Brewer,
so he's going to start, but at least you get a guy in there
who can compete going forward.
That's where the offensive line is right now.
I still think they need two draft picks added.
Probably done in vet-free agency for the offensive line, though. But with that in mind, I'm just going to give a general
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I'm just going to give a general,
I guess, summary of my feelings
on the first week of free agency for the Titans. Before
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But getting into a quick summary here for me.
You got Andre Dillard.
He signed for three years, $29 million.
I guarantee you when we get the contract details,
it's basically a two-year deal with some guaranteed money.
You got a similar thing with Daniel Brunskill.
You got a three-year deal worth $21 million for Arden Key,
which again, in my opinion, that's going to be a two-year deal
based on the guaranteed money.
Like, Bud Dupree got a five-year deal
worth $80 million,
and the Titans were able to cut him
after two years.
So, the base contract
is not what the contract really is.
All right?
What the guaranteed money is
is what really matters.
So, to me,
you basically got two-year deals for Dillard,
a two-year deal for Arden Key,
a one-year deal for Luke Gifford,
who, that's the last I'll mention, Gifford.
He's a special teams player.
Then, of course, you have a one-year deal
for Aziz Alshair.
You get
T.R. Tartt
back. You get Aaron Brewer back.
You bring
back Nick Westbrook-Akene.
To me,
this is
Rand Carthon trying to thread the needle.
This is, hey,
these are low-risk,
high-reward signings.
There's low-risk financially, long-term, low-risk.
But a lot of these guys,
Brunskill,
Al Shear,
Dillard,
Arden Key.
A lot of these guys are guys who were backups on their last team,
but have showed flashes at times.
So the idea is, hey, we're going to take very minimal risk,
and if this player works out, we're going to get very minimal risk. And if this player works out,
we're going to get a great discount on their play because we're paying them as a borderline starter backup type.
And if they give a certified starter play,
then we're getting a great value.
And since the Titans don't have a lot of money to work with this offseason,
that's the right way to play it.
You bargain shop
for high upside guys.
Now,
you have
high reward,
you have low
risk, but
what's the realistic outcome in the
middle? What is
the realistic outcome in the middle of those?
That these guys are just okay, and the Titans don't get a lot better
I think that
Rand Carthon has found a way
to sign some guys
who if it goes right
could make the team better
if it goes
the most realistic outcome,
are the Titans really that much better?
Daniel Brunskill,
I like the signing, but
Andre Dillard,
we're talking about guys who haven't been certified starters.
So, while I'm high on some of the moves that they made,
and I think a Brunskill or an Arden Key
could actually turn out to be starting level players,
the odds of these guys being good enough
to make the Titans significantly better
than what they were last year is just super low.
The realistic outcome for most of these signings
is these guys are just okay,
and they don't improve the Titans in any
significant way so to me this offseason
so far has been hey how can we take as
little risk as possible of putting our
future money in jeopardy while still
trying to field a somewhat competitive
team and if it does work then we're more
competitive than we expected. And we got great
values on contracts and awesome. If it doesn't work, we're not screwed money-wise in the future.
And we set ourselves up for a much better draft pick. Right now,
Rand Carthon is trying to thread the needle to where, hey, I tried to make the team better.
We tried with the limited resources we had.
We tried to make the team better.
While also knowing that there's a chance that
the more realistic outcomes are
these guys don't move the needle at all
and the Titans are the same
or maybe even a little worse next year.
So, I guess I'm just
it's how I came in
with the Titans first signing.
It's how I'm leaving out of the last signing
of the week.
Meh. Meh.
Meh. Meh.
Meh. Meh. Just okay.
Titans did just
okay. But,
with that being said,
I'm going to get out of here. This is my last show for the week, but
if the Titans make big moves
over the weekend, not Saturday night.
I got
some really important personal stuff
going on on Saturday night. Very excited
about. Going to go celebrate
my birthday and some other things as well.
But if big signings do
happen throughout the weekend, I'll do a
little short video on YouTube
or post up an emergency
podcast on the podcast feed that
won't be probably the full
25 to 30 minutes that I normally do, but
nonetheless, we'll still be reaction
to the move. So be on the lookout for that if
anything big does happen.
But that's going to do it for me today, folks.
I'm going to be back with you guys next week
to break down all of the news from over the weekend.
I am your host, Tyler Rowland,
and this was Locked on Titan. you