Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Tennessee Titans TANK OFF v Jacksonville Jaguars, Team Direction in 2025 Offseason & Plans for Pick

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

The Tennessee Titans take on the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 17 in a game where it would be better for both teams to lose. The Titans will need a new plan at quarterback in 2025 along with a ton of a...dditional roster talent and that should be the biggest focus right now. The Jaguars will likely have a new coach and need an entirely different direction in 2025, but how should that look? Finally, with both these teams set to have a high pick, what are they looking for in the upcoming draft?Subscribe to the TicTacTitans Film Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@TicTacTitansTicTacTitans Merchandise: https://dixons-dream.square.site/shop/tictactitans-gear/C3AAPNWXSXA6SBYG3USV2I7R?page=1&limit=30&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=ascFollow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitans/videosSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Hillsdale CollegeAll of Hillsdale’s courses are self-paced so that you can start whenever, and tune in wherever. Plus, you can go deeper with readings, quizzes, discussions - or just enjoy the lectures. Go right now to hillsdale.edu/lockedon to enroll. There’s no cost, and it’s easy to get started.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms Apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelYou can start the season with a big return on FanDuel. New customers can place a FIVE DOLLAR bet and you’ll get started with TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS - if you win your first FIVE DOLLAR BET ! Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Titans and Jaguars about to get down to it game don't mean nothing though hopefully you got what you needed for Christmas did you Tyler? yeah maybe not Locked on Jaguars Locked on Titans crossover you are locked on NFL crossover
Starting point is 00:00:23 part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. Thank you for joining us for Locked On NFL. Locked On Jaguars, Locked On Titans crossover. I'm Tony Wiggins and he is Tyler Rowland. We are the hosts of the Locked On Jaguars and Locked On Titans podcast. We're at your team every day. We always thank you for making us your first listen.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Crossover Thursday is presented by PrizePix. Download the app and use the code LOCKEDONNFL to win $50 instantly when you play $5. All right, now, so here's what we're going to do today, man. We are going to talk about the keys to victory to today's game, the biggest storylines for today's game, and then just a basic get started basically with talking about the Titans and the Jaguars and the way the season has gone and maybe a little bit of a look forward. We're used to it.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I look forward to what these teams need to do over the next couple of years. Locked on Jaguars, locked on Titans can be found wherever you get your podcast, wherever you listen to your podcast, wherever you hear your podcast. Make sure you tap in every single day. I'm tapped in every single day with my brother from another mother, Tyler Rowland, Tic Tac Titans, locked on Titans, host extraordinaire. My brother, it has been a bad, bad season. Yeah, it's been a tough one.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You say, you know, looking forward. I've been looking forward for 25 years with this team, man. It just never ends. You know, when am I going to look to now? When am I going to be, you know, ghost of Christmas present? But yeah, I'm with you there. It's been a tough season for both teams. And I think probably best for us to just, you know, look forward. And, you know, we probably won't get to have one of these crossovers with each other again until I know I like to check in with you after the draft and stuff like that, but probably maybe until our division, you know, preview right before next season pulls up.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So it's probably a good time for us to outline what we want from our teams going forward. Speaking of which, you picked the Jaguars to finish last. I did. And in order for that to come true, y'all got to beat the Jaguars this weekend right well no if the Jaguars beat y'all no if y'all beat the Jaguars yeah the Jaguars will sew up
Starting point is 00:02:31 the bottom of the I thought you was crazy when you said that too by the way I say Tyler no that can't be true I'm still crazy Tony what made you say that because when you said it I'm like oh yeah he's just on that hater rave man ain't no way he thinks the Jaguars gonna going to finish last.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You know what it is? It's the reality that the Jaguars and Titans are bound franchises. And when we think something is going to go right, when we think things have turned around, when we think that there's hope, it is not only extinguished,
Starting point is 00:03:02 it is ripped away entirely. That is just the way that it works for us franchises. The Texans, they're up and down. They've had their moments, but they're pretty consistent. They've been consistent. We know the Colts are the real big brother of the division. They have the Super Bowl championship when no one else does.
Starting point is 00:03:22 They had their Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck run. Fine, they get to sit on top of the hill no matter what's happened these last few years. But for some reason, the Titans and the Jags, not only do we fail, but we fail miserably. So just something in my soul told me that Jacksonville would go from the high that they were on down to the low once again,
Starting point is 00:03:42 because that's just how it works for our franchise. And I will tell you this, though, Tony. I've been wrong a lot about a lot of things this year with the Titans and how I thought they'd do and all of that. So I am begging you, Santa, let me be wrong one more time and let the Titans lose this game. Let me park there for a minute, because you and I have this discussion a lot and i saw
Starting point is 00:04:06 antonio pierce uh talk about some of the uh some of the heat that he was getting from drafting for them winning and beating the jaguars last week knowing that everybody wants your door either there or in new york now the jaguars are sitting at number two they're ahead of the raiders and my man pierce say we don't do that for the draft we don't do we don't do this for the draft we don't do this for fantasy football I'm of the inkling that it's hard to tank because guys need to put tape out in order to get jobs and contracts so it's really really hard for a team to tank and it also serves as counterintuitive to what these coaches tell these dudes every single day we need every every rep, we need everybody on board. And I just don't know how you turn that off
Starting point is 00:04:47 without somebody lining themselves up to be hurt or hurt their pockets. But I am a realist, and I do understand that it's in the best interest of these teams to not win these damn games at this point in the season. For sure. I think a couple of weeks ago when we talked, and even like a week before that, or I think it was, no, the conversation was starting with our game a couple of weeks ago. My philosophy was the Titans and Jags are in different positions. I even talked about it on our crossover that the Jags are probably going to get a new coach in the offseason. They don't have their starting quarterback out there. So it's not like they're building momentum or getting more comfortable in the system or proof of concept wins for a new coaching staff. None of that's real for Jacksonville. It is all real. Will Levis had played his best month of
Starting point is 00:05:36 football that we had seen. You're going against a worse defense, a bad team. He should be able to continue that or play even better. That helps you towards next year. Brian Callahan having the team play good at the end of the season, even though it's a bad year, that builds confidence the next year. There is no – I said this on my show yesterday or two days ago now. There is no chance that that happens. Levis is out. He's been benched.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Rudolph is playing in this game. What Brian Callahan has done so far this year, I'm not saying I'm out on Brian Callahan, but nothing can happen against the Jacksonville Jaguars or the Texans who will likely be resting starters in the last week of the year to make me more confident in Brian Callahan going forward in the next year. There is no proof of concept wins. There is no build momentum for next year after that loss to the Colts and how it started out, even though they made a fake comeback, the loss to the Jags scoring six points at home against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Like you have erased any opportunity for that momentum
Starting point is 00:06:35 building or for that confidence increase that is not happening anymore. So with that out of the window as a possibility, then yeah, lose the games. We need Abdul Carter. Desperately need Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter on this football team. And this game is so important because of the draft position of these two teams. The Titans can fall all the way to the ninth pick in the draft if they win this game,
Starting point is 00:06:58 while Jacksonville could potentially move up to the second pick. So it truly is a, not only are you going to hurt yourself, you're going to help one of your division rivals and the upside is zero. So I've totally changed my mind after the last few weeks of what the Titans have done on what their approach should be. But the thing is, Tony, like you're saying, players don't tank, coaches don't tank because their jobs are at stake. Tanking is done on a higher level, whether you don't give your team the talent to win. Like we see at the Giants, they cut Daniel Jones to make sure that they don't win any games,
Starting point is 00:07:30 or it can be done with injuries where if a guy is on the line and they would typically play, like if Jacksonville was in the playoff hunt, Trevor Lawrence would be on the field right now. He would have waited to have surgery. He would have played through. You make medical decisions based on where your team is at, and that is a form of tanking. For me, the Titans need to lose this game desperately because there is no upside to winning anymore because all the good feelings that can come from winning have been extinguished by what's happened the last three weeks.
Starting point is 00:08:01 No doubt about it. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to get into some specifics. Let's talk about the coach and GM. Don't know if the Titans are going to make a move. I do expect the Jaguars, or we hope. Let me say not. Let me change the word.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I said I expect the Jaguars to make a move. No, we hope the Jaguars make a move because Sean has been very, very slow to fire people. Then we're going to get into some fun stuff, talking about, oh, I don't know, Brian Thomas Jr. versus Calvin Ridley, which one of those things actually worked out. We'll talk about that and more as we continue a crossover edition of Locked on Jaguars and Locked on Titans.
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Starting point is 00:10:03 Roland. By the way, we cross each other's streets all the time out here behind the scenes but we barely have a chance to talk anymore uh but we're in a very very similar situation i think the jacksonville jaguars should make changes to both the front office and the coaching situation it doesn't always mean you have instant success because rand carthon was the hot guy coming from a great organization. And then, you know, Cali, the coach over with the Titans, was leaving situations where the offenses were super, super prolific. So there's a difference between something being a quick fix and then something being something that's necessary, that's very, very necessary for the infrastructure of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's where I think the Jaguars are. I think a lot of the heavy lifting is done. Trent Baalke hasn't done a terrible, well, an overall terrible job of drafting players. He has done, I believe, a bad job of team building and setting the course for this franchise. So that is very, very conducive of winning. How do you guys feel about Rand, your coach combination,
Starting point is 00:11:03 your coach and your GM combination? And then what are your wish lists for the quarterback situation? Because I think we've seen probably the last of Mr. Will Nevis. Yeah, I think Rand Carthon, you know how this works, Tony, though. When the team does poorly, everyone sucks. Nobody did a good job. Every fan says that he sucks, he's fired. But you look at what sucks. He's fired. Nope.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But you look at what rank carthons done. It's weird. Cause I actually think rank carthon has done a pretty good job. Calvin Ridley. We'll talk about it, but Calvin Ridley has been a godsend to this team. If they didn't have Calvin Ridley, they might not have won a game.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's good. Same thing. Tony Pollard's going over a thousand yards. Tony Pollard has been excellent. Everybody crying in their Wheaties about losing Derek Henry. I don't think Derek Henry would have as many yards as Tony Pollard has been excellent. Everybody crying in their Wheaties about losing Derrick Henry. I don't think Derrick Henry would have as many yards as Tony Pollard does because Tony Pollard's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage every time. And Derrick Henry is best when he has that runway. So I honestly think Tony Pollard had a better season for the Titans than
Starting point is 00:11:56 Henry would have on this team. Uh, even though Derrick Henry is clearly the better player, it's about fit and circumstance and all that. Uh. Lloyd Cushenberry was playing pretty good football before. Some of the defensive stuff hasn't worked out, like LeJarrius Sneed and Chito Elusie. Quandre Diggs gets hurt. The Jamal Adams thing is a disaster. Kenneth Murray has been awful, but Sebastian Joseph Day has been pretty solid. And then you look at the draft. I mean, Will Levis didn't... I don't mind taking a chance on a second round quarterback. It was worth it.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It was worth it. Right. I don't think he's going to be good, but it was worth it. Right. Yeah. You know, that's a risk you have to take. Not every move is going to work, but Peter Skowronski has been an all pro level guard over the last two months.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He has really turned into the player that we'd hoped he would be. Tajay Spears injured a lot of the year, but a clear playmaker. Chika Konkwo has looked good as of late as well. The last two weeks, he's been fantastic. You go to this year's draft, J.C. Latham had his rookie ups and downs against really good edge rushers like the Jags guys and the Texans guys, but he's been very solid on a bad offensive line that has had the worst left tackle position for the last two seasons in the end of Andre sweat.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I was wrong about that. He has been the best rookie defensive lineman in the NFL this year, probably. So at least interior defensive lineman, I know verse has been excellent for the Rams. So to me, it's like rank art on is done enough good stuff. But at the end of the day, he also hired Brian Callahan.
Starting point is 00:13:27 He also didn't address the right tackle position in free agency. Well enough. He didn't address the edge rusher position in free agency. Well enough. So there are enough losses to go with some of the wins where you're like, he's okay. He's okay. But we need to see more. I personally don't think the heat should be on Rancarthon as much.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Callahan, though, you have to wonder whether he was ready for the job, never called plays before at the NFL level. Now he's being a play caller and a head coach, only 39. Like, was he ready for the opportunity? Because he's definitely had some bad coaching performance. The Titans have lost games this year that are the main culprit is the coaching. And like, I've been a defender of Brian Callahan. So I think they're both going to get one more year to see if they can get some wins and turn this around. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:14:15 you got to win in this industry. And if they don't do it next year, if they're terrible again next year, they're both going to get fired. And a lot of that has to do with the quarterback they pick for next year. And that's why I don't think the a lot of that has to do with the quarterback they pick for next year. And that's why I don't think the right move is to take a quarterback in the draft. I know that Shadur Sanders and Cam Ward are there at the top of the draft. But if you put those guys on the Titans next year, they're going to do terrible. They're going to look terrible. Everyone's going to get fired.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like the Titans need to build the roster to get ready for a quarterback in the next few years. But this year is not the year to do it. a quarterback in the next few years. But this year is not the year to do it. So go the veteran route. I don't want to pay Sam Darnold. I'm not high on Sam Darnold. I think he's got the best situations in the NFL. The Titans aren't going to provide that situation to Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So paying him $50 million a year for a couple years would be a disaster, in my opinion. I want to see the Titans go out and get Aaron Rodgers, if he's released. Oh, my God. Bring him in for one year. See if he can win in Callahan's system a little bit. And if not, he retires. And then you draft your quarterback after another year of roster building.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Bring in a guy like Derek Carr, if he's released. See if Brian Callahan actually can win with a veteran starting-level quarterback, even quarterbacks that aren't great anymore, starting-level quarterback. So I don't want Kirk Cousins. I don't really want Justin Fields. I don't want to pay Sam Darnold. But a guy like Derek Carr or a guy like Aaron Rodgers at least lets you evaluate Brian Callahan going forward,
Starting point is 00:15:43 even if it doesn't mean that you're going to win. Let me tell you something. As a Jaguar fan, there's nothing I want to see more than Aaron Rodgers showing up in Nashville. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to tell you right now, ain't nothing I want to see more than Aaron Rodgers showing up in Nashville, man, and all of that rigmarole going on with him. But you're right about Callahan. People always, this is why I warn people, a lot of people want Doug Peterson gone and they want a play caller. And I don't mind the play. I don't mind Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson, right? I like those guys. But the thing about them is I don't want them because they're great play callers. I want them because
Starting point is 00:16:20 they're great communicators. And I like Liam Cohen a lot because he is the top offensive coach on that staff and he has learned from the great tom moore who is a senior analyst and advisor on that staff therefore when you watch the offense and this isn't to take anything away from todd bowles but you get the sense that most of the supervisory things and the flow and the way that they're learning and the way that they're learning and the way that they're onboarding their young players comes from Liam Cohen and not to take stuff away from him. But the thing about it being a play caller, you saw with Jeff Ulbrich, the second they walked
Starting point is 00:16:54 Robert Sala out of that building in New York, I think a lot of things were missing. The things that Ulbrich used to do weren't being done by him anymore. They were being done by somebody else. When you fire a coach, it's always the next man man up i want the jaguars to start completely over i'm tired of pointing fingers trying to figure out whose fault this is last year they went nine and eight and they jettisoned the entire staff on defense right well they're three and twelve now and the defense is absolutely worse so right sometimes you can dump the wrong cargo. And sometimes trying to figure it out, all you're doing is just you're taking the part of it that you don't think is the problem if you're Trent Baalke and Doug Peterson, and then you're tweaking it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I don't want to tweak. I want them gone. I want them to start completely over. I believe in Trevor Lawrence. The last five or six weeks have shown you that the Jaguars don't even have a pulse without him, and with't even have a pulse without him. And with him, they have a chance to win. I do believe in some of the things that they've done. I just don't believe in the entire experiment. I don't believe in the entire movement and the way that they're going about it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And more importantly is this. Even if they were nine and eight, I would feel this way. If they were nine and eight for a third straight year, but they're now three and 12 and probably going to end up three and 14 or maybe at best four and 13. Four and 13. They're going to be four and 13. Right. So go ahead. So my problem with them is this. I'll give them credit for some of the things that they did. Brian Thomas Jr. is I think a top 10 wide receiver in the national football. Yeah. Great pick. But they wanted to keep Calvin Ridley, and they would have probably taken Terran Arnold.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So a broke clock is right twice a day, and I'm going to give him credit for it. But I don't think that this group is the group to now. If they were 9-8 up for a third straight year, I would still be sitting here saying they can't go to the next level. be sitting here saying they can't go to the next level. Now that they're 3-14 or whatever that is, 4-13, I really don't believe that those two people can get them out of this hole. This is quicksand. You need to just start this whole script over again with them standing on level ground, man, with a new coach.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I just don't think that they can get it done. Yeah, I hear you on that. It's like sometimes it reminds me of, you know, Mike McCarthy, or Mike McCarthy, Mike Malarkey for the Titans. Takes the team to their first playoff game in 10 years, all that. But you just know when you look at it that this isn't going to be able. We aren't on the first couple of steps of turning this all the way up. We know that we're not going to go much higher than this.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So I hear what you're saying. I've been there before. It's like having that journeyman boxer. He's 35 wins and 32 of them have been knockouts, but he's got 12 losses too. And he ain't no longer fighting pay-per-view, dude. He's fighting in little casinos on reservations. So you know he's tough, but guess what? He ain't never, ever, ever going to be a champion again.
Starting point is 00:19:42 All right, keys to victory for this weekend's game. We'll have that in just a second here on Locked on Jaguars, Locked on Titans crossover. Today's show is sponsored and brought to you by FanDuel. That is right, man. The NFL playoffs are almost here, but it's not too late to get in on the regular season action with FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. Because right now, new customers can finish the season strong with $250
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Starting point is 00:21:03 All of our Thursday crossovers across the Lockdown Podcast Network are sponsored and brought to you by PrizePix. Download the app and use the code LOCKEDONNFL to win $50 instantly when you play $5. Talking to Tyler Roden of Locked On Titans and I am Tony Wiggins of Locked On Jaguars. No, we ain't wrestling. Usually when we see each other, we're going to tear up some furniture and wrestle and argue with each other like we do sometimes. But it's a really all love and friendly debate between Tyler and I, both hosts of the Locked on NFL show. Now, keys to victory.
Starting point is 00:21:35 A victory that I don't believe either one of us particularly wants to happen, but somebody has to play. I think for the Jaguars, the keys to victory is get off the field on third down, stop doing dumb penalties. Now, when you have two bad teams, this might be the same thing. Get off the field on third down, stop the dumb penalties that extend possessions for the other team, and find a way to create turnovers. Tyler, I'm going to blow your mind.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The Jaguars have eight turnovers this year that they have created. I've never seen a number that low in my life. There's some teams that get five and six turnovers in one game. They have eight for the entire season. Oh, man. Yeah, that's bad. Well, I'm going to blow your mind, Tony. The Titans have 31 turnovers on offense this year as a team. This year, 31. Even Brian Callahan called that insane. So I think both of us, I'll go into my keys to victory, but the reality with this game is, it's like, which dumb kid in class is less dumb? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:35 It's not like, like what we need is, we don't need our teams to go out and do something. It's what we need them not to do if they want to win. You know, it's not go do this. It's don't do this with our teams. And for the Titans, turnovers. Four turnovers last week. Four turnovers the week before. Again, if you turn over the ball, you're going to lose because the Titans aren't good enough to stop it. And then
Starting point is 00:23:03 stop the run. The Titans gave up 330 rushing yards last week to the Indianapolis Colts when you know that the quarterback can't throw and all they want to do is run. And you still couldn't do anything about it. I think a lot of that had to do with the Titans have young linebackers right now. Kenneth Murray, who isn't very good anyways, he's hurt. Luke Gifford, who's a special teams only player, but one of the best inside linebackers on the team. He's out.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Jerome Baker has been terrible. Now we're playing Cedric Gray, a rookie who missed most of the season with injury. And James Williams, a seventh round rookie, who's transitioning from being a safety at the University of Miami, who I know you know, you've seen James Williams, you heard of James Williams in high school. He's been a safety his whole life.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's transitioned into playing linebacker, and Cedric Gray and James Williams were lost all week last week against the Colts' run defense. It was embarrassing how bad they were. The Titans have a backup safety in, and Darrell Worley, who they picked up off waivers this year. Imani Hooker is a very good player in pass coverage, but he has had a very bad year in run defense with his angles and his tackling.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So like if the Titans don't stop the run and they turn over the ball, they're going to get smoked. And the final thing for me is special teams. The Titans have been terrible on special teams all year long. They have a dissonance. And I feel like when the Titans play the Jaguars, the Jaguars find a way to win on special teams and influence the game. They've had some pretty good special teams units. I know it's not been perfect, but they've had some good special teams elements in recent years. So turnovers, run defense, special teams, that's what the Titans have to focus on if they want to win.
Starting point is 00:24:46 All right, so I'm going to go ahead and tell you right now, I fully expect Mason Rudolph to be the better quarterback on the field this weekend. And I fully expect the Tennessee Titans to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars. Me too. You can see it coming, man. I actually thought the Jaguars should have won the previous matchup that they played. Or did the Jaguars?
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think the Jaguars. They did. Yeah, we did. Did either team really win? No. It felt like both teams lost with the way the game was. No, and that's why I wanted to point this out. You mentioned two dumb kids in class.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's like if one kid is standing up at the board. I almost laughed when you said it. It's like a kid. It's like me and you, right? What if it's me and you, is standing up at the board. I was laughing when you said it. It's like a kid. It's like me and you, right? Whatever it is, me and you. And I'm at the board, and we got this little thing that when I cough, I'm going to actually look between my arm, and you're going to hold up something to tell me the answer, right?
Starting point is 00:25:36 And the teacher goes, what's 10 minus 5? And I'm standing there, and I'm trying to count on my fingers. She said, no fingers. And I cough, and I look back back and you got the sign that goes, how much is a field goal in the NFL? And I write three and we're both wrong because it ain't three. The answer's five. So two dumb kids that can't get out of their own way.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's just who we are this weekend, man. It is ironic that for two groups of people that usually beat up on each other and pick at each other that we look just alike. Yeah, I don't think anyone's in any situation. No one's in a situation to pick on anybody else. No, not at all. So for me, the keys is to keep everybody healthy. And it's to the point where there are some guys,
Starting point is 00:26:24 and you're this late in the season and i know they don't do load management but like you said if there's anything i don't care if it's a hangnail if there's an ingrown toenail that could keep trayvon walker and brian thomas jr and the rest of those guys from playing once they hit their incentives or hit their benchmarks for their career i would smash them out so fast. Because you lose a guy now, you might be losing him for the first part of the season. This is where you don't want somebody who has a lot of value, like Foy Olocon, your starting linebacker, or your starting corner. You don't want to get that torn pec muscle that's going to keep them out until November
Starting point is 00:26:59 next year. That's the point that I'm trying to make. Yeah, everything's about next year for these teams right now. And yeah, the last thing that you want is a major injury that can impact not only next season, but like you want these guys to have a healthy offseason, especially your young players that you're talking about who are continuing to grow as players and learning like Brian Thomas Jr. cannot afford to miss out on this offseason because we know that when you're coming from the draft after your college season ends, you start training for the combine. You start training for draft stuff, which is not the same as training for football.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You know what I mean? It's totally different things that you're training for. So that first offseason in the NFL for a young player is so, so critical. You do not want to have them get any kind of major injury. And I feel the same for, you know, any of the young players on the Titans, quite honestly. You know not want to have them get any kind of major injury. And I feel the same for any of the young players on the Titans, quite honestly. You know what I mean? You just cannot afford to have anybody who you need next year get hurt
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