Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Tennessee Titans TRADE DeAndre Hopkins to Kansas City Chiefs, Smart Trade by Ran & What Comes Next?

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

The Tennessee Titans finally made the move most have been expecting, trading veteran receiver DeAndre Hopkins to the Kansas City Chiefs. The deal is a smart move by the Titans and a fair move for both... teams. Despite the disappointment fans feel from this season, Ran Carthon made the right call here. Finally, what deals should come next as the Titans should continue to hunt for draft capital in a lost season.Subscribe to the TicTacTitans Film Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@TicTacTitansTicTacTitans Merchandise: https://dixons-dream.square.site/shop/tictactitans-gear/C3AAPNWXSXA6SBYG3USV2I7R?page=1&limit=30&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=ascFollow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitans/videosSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Pre-Alcohol by ZbioticsGo to zbiotics.com/LOCKEDONNFL to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use LOCKEDONNFL at checkout.BetterHelpThis episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Make your brain your friend, with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/LOCKEDON today to get 10% off your first month.LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.Hillsdale CollegeAll of Hillsdale’s courses are self-paced so that you can start whenever, and tune in wherever. Plus, you can go deeper with readings, quizzes, discussions - or just enjoy the lectures. Go right now to hillsdale.edu/lockedon to enroll. There’s no cost, and it’s easy to get started.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms Apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelPlace your first FIVE DOLLAR bet and you’ll get started with TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS - guaranteed ! Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Tennessee Titans made the right move, trading DeAndre Hopkins to the Kansas City Chiefs. That and more on an emergency edition of Locked on Titans. You are Locked on Titans, your daily Tennessee Titans podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to the Locked On Titans Podcast. I am your host, Tyler Rowland, Titans fans. We got an emergency edition of the show.
Starting point is 00:00:36 The Tennessee Titans make an early morning trade and send DeAndre Hopkins to the Kansas City Chiefs in a move that they should have made. I'm going to break it all down and tell you what comes next. Before I do, thank you for making Locked on Titans your first listen each and every day. Remember, Monday through Friday, Tennessee Titans content all year round, always for free. Make sure that you get subscribed, stay subscribed.
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Starting point is 00:01:25 out with Matt Derry from Locked on Lions game preview episode tomorrow and then of course on Sunday I'll be live to break down the game. This was a move that needed to happen. I've been talking about it on the show for a few weeks now. The Tennessee Titans trade DeAndre Hopkins to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It is a conditional fourth round pick. It could be a fourth round pick. It could be a fifth round pick. It could be a fourth round pick depending on certain team success for the Kansas City Chiefs, certain player success for DeAndre Hopkins. We don't have the exact terms right now. We do know that the Tennessee Titans are going to be eating some of the salary for DeAndre Hopkins, which it's very low and why wouldn't the Titans eat salary to get a better draft pick? They're not in a position where they need a ton of salary cap during the season. And Kansas City didn't have a lot of salary cap.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So I absolutely would eat salary cap to get a better draft pick. At the end of the day, though, this is 100% what the Tennessee Titans needed to do. Like they're one in five. DeAndre Hopkins is going to be a free agent after the season. He's 32 years old with a banged up knee. This is a move that made a ton of sense for the Titans. And I recognize that some people are going to be upset about this trade and are going to be angry about this trade.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And I think that that is a case of displaced anger. I think a lot of people are angry that the Titans are 1-5. I think a lot of people are angry that the team hasn't lived up to their own personal expectations this year. And I'm not telling you that you shouldn't be mad. I'm not telling you that you shouldn't be angry
Starting point is 00:03:03 about where the Tennessee Titans are at right now. I think that's fair. But you should not be angry about this trade considering where the Titans are at. Like, this was absolutely the right move for the Tennessee Titans. And not only should they have made this trade, there are more trades that should be coming
Starting point is 00:03:21 for the Titans at this time. You have to accept the reality of your situation. You only make things worse on yourself if you continue to be stubborn and compound your mistakes. The Titans are not going to the playoffs. They're 1-5. They are losing to Detroit this week. They will be 1-6.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Trading DeAndre Hopkins and getting back draft capital is exactly what they should be doing. Now, there's a lot of doomsday stuff happening with Titans fans right now. Oh, you know, they're going to waste those draft picks and blah, blah, blah. And I just don't understand that philosophy. A lot of people said last year when the Titans traded Kevin Byard for a fifth and a sixth round pick, they said, oh, that fifth and sixth round pick is going to turn into nothing anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We gave up Kevin Byard for players who aren't even going to make the team. Well, those players turned into Jarvis Brownlee Jr. and Jaquan Jackson. So, I just don't understand the instant doomsday reaction that a lot of people have that, oh, these picks are this pick is going to mean nothing. I don't agree with that at all. This team should be loading up on draft picks.
Starting point is 00:04:30 This team should be trying to get as much draft capital as they possibly can. So this was the right move for the Tennessee Titans to make. If you're upset about where the Titans are at as a team right now, I fully understand that. But there is no room, in my opinion, to say that people should be angry about this trade. It doesn't make any sense if you're mad that the Titans made this move. This is a move that the Tennessee Titans should have made.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It makes sense for both teams. The Kansas City Chiefs needed some more weapons after the injuries they've had. The Titans season is over, and they need to establish more draft capital moving forward to help build this roster up. Now, what happens from here? What comes next for the Titans, not only for the team, but on the trade market? I'm going to discuss that as well.
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Starting point is 00:07:54 DeAndre Hopkins traded. If you're an everydayer for the Locked on Titans podcast, you knew that this was coming. I have been talking about this trade and why this made sense for quite some time now. And on yesterday's show, I literally told you that best case scenario for the Titans is to get a fourth round pick and then a fifth round pick is most likely. And the Titans have gotten a fifth round conditional where it's going to turn into a fourth round pick if DeAndre Hopkins and the Chiefs do well,
Starting point is 00:08:20 which I'm expecting DeAndre Hopkins and the Chiefs to do well. It's the Kansas City Chiefs after all. But outside of reaction to the trade, why it was a good trade for the Titans, why people upset about the trade are just not thinking logically about things, what happens next for the Titans? Well, you talk about on the football field. On the football field itself, you're going to see more Nick Westbrook-Akene, which a ton of Titans fans were begging for all year long. Traylon Burks is on IR, so
Starting point is 00:08:52 probably not going to see him for another month or so. Who knows when he comes back, so it's going to be NWI. And then Jaquan Jackson, the rookie. He's been a good returner for the Titans this year, but I think it's time to get him out on the field as a wide receiver as well. That's going to make sense for the Titans. Not only that, but Bryce Oliver, the preseason star for the Titans, who's been on the practice squad throughout the season.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I think Bryce Oliver gets a call up. The Titans only have four wide receivers on the roster right now. Calvin Ridley, Tyler Boyd, NWI, and Jaquan Jackson. So bringing up Bryce Oliver makes a ton of sense for the Titans. That's probably what we're going to see out on the field when it comes to wide receiver going forward. And I'm excited to see Jaquan Jackson and Bryce Oliver and see what they can do early on and get them some experience with the team through the rest of the season. When it comes to trades going forward, Quandre Diggs is a guy that makes sense. I think that Diggs is on a one-year deal for the Titans
Starting point is 00:09:59 and has played pretty solid at safety. I think you could get probably a sixth-round pick back for Quandre Diggs. I think a guy like Arden Key for a team, and I'm going to talk about this with Matt Derry from Locked on Lions when we do the Crossover Thursday episode that comes out later tonight. I think Arden Key to the Lions for a sixth, seventh-round pick could make a ton of sense. I would like to keep Dylan Radins around,
Starting point is 00:10:25 but if you get a third round pick for Dylan Radins, I don't think that's going to happen. But if you get that, then you got to take that. I think the real most logical person to be traded next is Nick Folk. I think it's hard to find a good kicker for some teams right now. The Titans should have no interest in keeping a 40-year-old kicker around. If I'm the Titans, I would trade Nick Folk for a 6th round pick or even a 7th round pick.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And then I would go pick up Braden Narveson again. He got released by the Packers. You're not going to be in a lot of games where you're winning. So I don't really care about the reliability of a kicker. So I would get as much as I possibly can in draft capital with a guy like Quandre Diggs, with a guy like Nick Folk, with a guy like Arden Key, with a guy like Dylan Radins if possible. But I better get a good pick to give up Dylan Radins
Starting point is 00:11:20 because not only do I want to keep Dylan Radins around, I would like to re-sign Dylan Radins after the season. I think that would make a ton of sense. So if I'm the Titans, I'm looking at Quandre Diggs. I'm looking at Nick Folk. I'm looking at Arden Key. Those are the guys that I would be trading number one next. It makes the most sense. Arden Key probably going to get released after the year. He's more of a rotational rusher. Quandre Diggs is on a one-year contract and most likely won't be back next year anyway. And Nick Folk is a 40-year-old kicker.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I mean, what sense does it make for the Titans at one and six to keep a 40-year-old kicker around? Now, the problem with, and let's talk about this salary situation because I see some people say, I'm upset that the Titans are eating salary. Well, do you know how much DeAndre Hopkins salary is? Let me just ask you that because why would you be mad about that? Why would that, why would that be an issue for DeAndre Hopkins? I just don't quite understand the outrage there.
Starting point is 00:12:28 If you're happy with the trade and mad the Titans are eating salary, I guess I don't understand if you understand what his salary is this year. Like, you're looking at $2.5 to $4.5 million. Like, it's not a bunch of money, and it's not going to affect the Titans next year. It's not going to change anything about what they're going to do with the void cash next year. So I don't understand why anybody would be Hopkins base salary.
Starting point is 00:13:07 This year was $5 million. That means the Titans are going to eat $3 million of it. Would you rather have a sixth round pick and the chiefs take all the salary back? It just doesn't, you know, doesn't make a lot of sense. So why,
Starting point is 00:13:24 why would anyone care about that? That I don't understand. Now, some people are going to say, why would you trade him to the Kansas City Chiefs? Why would that matter? Why? I just don't understand. I just don't understand the logic of why you wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:13:46 you would rather take a sixth round pick from the Steelers rather than a fourth round pick from the Chiefs? Why? Why would you intentionally take a worse deal out of what? Emotion? Anger? Pity? You don't make business deals based on those things.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I just don't, I guess I don't logically understand any fans who would say, don't trade him to Kansas City. Take a lesser deal from a different team. I don't care what Kansas City does. The Titans are one in five. You got to worry about yourself. So yeah, if Kansas City has given you the best deal,
Starting point is 00:14:26 then you take the best deal. I can't even compute. At the end of the day, I think anybody who's mad about this is just mad the Titans are 1-5. That's all it comes down to. You're angry that the Titans are 1-5. You expected the season to go better. It didn't go better and now you're going to be mad about anything at every turn
Starting point is 00:14:50 and I get being mad that the Titans aren't doing as well as we all hoped but that doesn't mean that you don't make smart decisions going forward based on where you're at right now so this was the right move for the Titans. This was a good pick. And as a reminder, a lot of you guys who are mad right now were mad when the Titans traded Kevin Byard
Starting point is 00:15:13 and the Titans got Jaquan Jackson and Jarvis Brownlee Jr. because of the trade with Kevin Byard. So before you go off saying the draft picks mean nothing, just remember things like that. That's all I have to say. So the right move for the Titans, they should make more trades going forward. And, you know, the tank is on.
Starting point is 00:15:33 That's just the reality of where we're at right now. And I want the Titans to sell as many assets as they possibly can going forward. But with that being said, tonight, crossover Thursday episode with Matt Derry from Locked on Lions. That's an interesting one. It's a good episode.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And then I'll be back for a game plan episode. And I'll be live after the Titans game on Sunday. So make sure that you get subscribed. Stay subscribed. My Mason Rudolph film breakdown is up on the Tic Tac Titans film channel. I would appreciate it if you guys went and checked that out as well. Thumbs up on the video. Tighten up down in the chat.
Starting point is 00:16:07 As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowland, and this was an emergency edition of Locked on Titans. you

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