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On this Thursday edition of the Locked On Titans podcast, we are going to begin by discussing
an update to the Tennessee Titans 2022 compensatory pick formula because free agent and former Tennessee Titan Jadavian Clowney
has picked a team and he has officially signed with the Cleveland Browns.
So we're going to talk about Clowney's deal.
We're going to talk about how it impacts the Titans comp pick formula for next draft.
And I got to mention that shot that Clowney took at the Titans in his opening presser.
After that, we are going to dive into an article that I found particularly interesting from
Matt Horman at Yahoo.com, talking about some of the wide receiver groups and ranking some
of the wide receiver groups around the NFL.
Going to tell you where the Titans fit into his rankings, whether I agree or disagree,
and what the Titans can do to change where they are.
After that, we are going to cap off this Thursday show
by giving you some updates on the Titans' off-season workout schedule
and give you some more updates on the Titans' particular situation
as it is with the NFLPA and some of the teams boycotting those voluntary workouts.
So, giving you some more updates on that front as well on this Thursday edition of the Locked
On Titans podcast.
Let's get it!
We are going to kick off today's show by talking about the Titans' compensatory pick formula for 2022.
And within that discussion, obviously, is the big news of Jadavion Clowney's deal is going to be one year eight million dollars with incentives that could get him up to ten million dollars total so we're looking at Clowney being an eight to ten
million dollar player and that would in fact add into the Titans compensatory pick formula so of
course something that we've talked about previously on the show but I'll reiterate here the NFL has a program has a system where if your free agents leave
and get big money deals and you don't bring in a bunch of free agents back onto your team you
often get rewarded with draft picks it's something that happened to the Titans this year they got an
extra third round draft pick because Jack Conklin went and signed with the Browns for a big-money deal,
which would result in a third-round pick.
And then the Titans signed Vic Beasley, and Marcus Mariota left and went to the Raiders.
Those two deals canceled each other out, which just left the Titans losing Conklin.
That results in a third-round pick.
Well, Clowney at that price is going to factor in, and that leaves you looking at who
the Titans have signed and who the Titans have left, or who the Titans have let leave, I would
say. But let's talk about that Clowney shot at the Titans before we move on to that. In his opening
presser, basically he was asked about what drew him to Cleveland, And one of the things he said is they won games.
And he said this exactly, quote, you guys won 12 games last year, right?
More than the team I played on, end quote.
Now, that isn't a very big shot, but you look at his facial expressions, his body language
while saying it, it's pretty obvious that it was meant to be a petty shot at the Titans.
And quite frankly, I'm just glad that Clowney's boom or bust potential is someone else's problem
this year.
He's a guy who I would have considered signing back at the right price.
Most certainly not $8 million, though.
You can't sign for about $12, $13 million the previous year.
All of the negatives and concerns about your play are realized.
You get injured, only play eight games.
The eight games you did play weren't incredibly productive.
They weren't terrible, but they certainly don't justify the contract he got last year
from the Titans or the contract he got this year from the Browns.
It's another team banking on Clowney's quote-unquote potential.
But either way, I appreciate Clowney going to a team and getting that kind of deal because
it could positively impact the Titans compensatory pick formula now I have some questions
about the way that the formula is gonna work out for next year because by my count right now
not every free agent signing counts towards the compensatory pick formula it needs to be a certain
amount of money and we don't really know what that cutoff will be right now.
But what I do know is, because the Titans released
Adoree Jackson, Malcolm Butler, Dennis Kelly, and Adam Humphreys,
and Kenny Vaccaro, they are not going to be included
in the compensatory pick formula, no matter what they sign for
or where they go.
They don't count. The Titans released them.
What I also know is, the Titans did lose Johnnie
Smith Corey Davis and Clowney to big money deals that would count towards the compensatory pick
formula and those like I said those are valid those count towards what's going on and on the
flip side the only guys I see that the Titans have signed that would go against the compensatory pick
formula are Bud Dupree with his $16.5 million
a year and then Danico Autry with his roughly $7 million per year. So to me, the Titans should end
up with a fifth or a sixth round compensatory draft pick as they lost three big price free
agents and only gained two. Now, Janoris Jenkins deal, will that come in in the compensatory pick formula? By my count,
it's going to be too low to register and be a factor. Similarly with Desmond King, Kevin Johnson,
Josh Reynolds, none of those signings are going to have big enough money to factor into the formula
based on precedent, based on previous history. So, will be interesting to see how that ultimately
shakes out. we will get more
information on that going forward but by my count the Titans should be in line in 2022 as things
stand right now for a late round compensatory pick so we will see what happens there and of
course I will update you as we get more definite information going forward but speaking of going
forward we are going to go forward with today's show
and take a look at an article from Matt Harmon at Yahoo.com
talking about wide receiver groups around the NFL
and why the Titans group isn't necessarily in a great place.
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about the wide receiver groups around the NFL, and I kind of held this back, but the
article is about the top 10 worst wide receiver groups in the National Football League, and
the Titans do make an appearance on the list, but I don't think it's as dire as it may sound.
I'm going to break that all down here.
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of want to start at the top of the list and go through until we get to the Tennessee Titans.
So number one, the worst wide receiver group in the NFL, according to Matt Harmon from Yahoo Sports,
is the Detroit Lions. And I absolutely agree with that. They have
Brashad Perriman and Tyrell Williams, and basically nobody else, and from Matt's perspective, they
don't have a quality number one starting caliber veteran, and they don't have a promising young
wide receiver also, so that's why it's the worst group. Next, you have the Philadelphia Eagles, who
are in a similar spot, but at least they have Jalen Rager. But outside of that, Travis Fulgham is really the only person worth mentioning.
So a tough spot for the Eagles there.
Next, the New England Patriots.
And I agree with Harmon here, adding Kendrick Bourne and Nelson Aguilar.
They're decent players, but that doesn't really change anything.
They still have a bust in Nikhil Harry and just another guy in Jacoby Myers.
So a pretty rough
rough group there in New England next the Baltimore Ravens outside of Marquise Brown
they've signed Sammy Watkins but can you really trust on him Myles Boykin Devin Duvernay
nothing really to write home about they need some help in the draft then the Las Vegas Raiders
they do have first round pick from last year, Henry Ruggs. They did bring
in John Brown, who is a free agent I really had my eye on. But outside of that, Hunter Renfro,
Brian Edwards, Willie Sneed, not a lot to write home about. Then the Indianapolis Colts fully
agree here with the Colts being number six worst wide receiver group. They brought back T.Y. Hilton,
but T.Y. Hilton's on his last legs in the league.
Michael Pittman maybe takes another step, but I wasn't overly impressed. Paris Campbell has been
up and down in his career, so I love seeing the Colts on that list. Number seven is the Houston
Texans, and they may have Brandon Cooks, but outside of that, Andre Roberts, Chris Moore,
Dante Moncrief. I mean, it's pretty rough. Kiki Kuti, love seeing two
Titans division rivals on the list. Then you have the Miami Dolphins, and I don't really know how
I feel about this one. I think Preston Williams is a pretty good player. They added Will Fuller.
I'm a big fan of Devontae Parker. Now, none of those guys, in my opinion, are a true number one,
and that's the argument that Harmon makes, but I don't really see that group as a top 10 terrible wide receiver group but alas they're number eight and number nine is the New
York Jets so now you know where the Titans rank in this top 10 but the New York Jets they signed
Corey Davis they have Jamison Crowder they brought in Keelan Cole but none of those guys are number
one receivers so although that's a very solid two three, if you don't have the bona fide number
one, it really kind of takes down the ceiling of your team.
They do have Denzel Mims, who will be in his second year, but what can he be?
It's unknown going forward.
And that does bring us here to number 10, the Tennessee Titans.
And I want to just kind of quickly read the blurb here from Harmon about the Titans position group.
Quote,
The Titans represent a tide change on this list.
Unlike every other team in spots 1 to 9, the Titans have solved the hardest part.
They have a true, dominant, alpha, number one receiver in the fold with A.J. Brown.
receiver in the fold with A.J. Brown. Brown's presence alone meant I couldn't in good conscience say Tennessee was worse off at receiver position than other teams with a collection of okay
starters. Think about the Ravens. Think about the Raiders. Think about the Jets. However,
let's be clear. The Titans receiver depth chart is brutal after Brown. Former Rams third at best
receiver Josh Reynolds was signed to a one-year
deal and is currently penciled in as the number two. That's not what you want. Quick aside,
I disagree with Harmon there. I think Josh Reynolds is a solid number two. Nothing in
Reynolds' career thus far screams ready for a promotion. Again, a quick aside, I disagree with
you, Matt Harmon. Last year, he had over 50 catches 50 catches 600 yards I think as a third wide
receiver that is screaming for a promotion but whatever back into his quote we should consider
Tennessee a virtual lock to pluck a player from the second tier of receivers in the 2021 NFL draft
they could even look to add Brown's fellow Ole Miss product Elijah Moore who would bring a
bring a slot and big play option to the table end quote now I agree
with Harmon there the Titans most certainly could look to add Elijah Moore he's a very popular name
on Titans Twitter not only because he fits what the Titans want to do as Harmon mentioned he is
a slot guy and a big play option but A.J. Brown being from Ole Miss said that he wanted Elijah
Moore to be on the team in a tweet so So now every Titans fan wants him on the team.
And quite frankly, I'm not opposed to A.J. Brown being happy.
I want to keep that guy around for as long as he plays football.
But here's what I do want to say about Elijah Moore.
I wouldn't take him at number 22.
I just don't see the value there.
If the Titans trade down into the early second round,
then yeah, I see that there.
53, Elijah Moore won't get to 53,
but if the Titans trade up from 53 into the top 40 at 38 or 39 or 40 itself,
then yeah, I'm fully on board.
But even though the Titans do have a big need
at wide receiver,
I don't think it's as dire as Harmon makes it seem
because I'm higher on Josh Reynolds
than he obviously is but
either way the point of this exercise is obvious the Titans do need to add a wide receiver pretty
high in the draft and it just depends on who's available where the value is but either way it's
something that they certainly have to address in the first two days but with that in mind we are
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Titans fans, we are going to cap off this Thursday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast by talking about some updates to the off-season workout schedule for all teams, including
the Tennessee Titans.
And then, of course, some updates on the general situation going on right now with the off-season
workout.
So some big updates there.
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But let's dive into these updates here.
And first, I want to talk about the off-season program and the schedule for that that was
defined by the NFL
on Wednesday. First and foremost, the offseason program is nine weeks in length. It's going to go
from April 19th to June the 18th, and it's three different phases. So they break it up into three
different parts. Number one, the first phase is the first four weeks from April 19th to May the 14th. And during this time, the clubs will have virtual meetings.
Players can be at the facility for two hours per day max. There will be no on-field drills or work
with coaches. Remember, it's more about virtual meetings, but the players can use the facility
and the weight room.
The capacities remain in place as they are right now.
The limits for how many people can be in each spot due to COVID restrictions, that's going
to stay the same as it is right now because players are using the facility right now on
their own discretion.
Think about going in to get in a lift, going in, getting treatment on an injury, going
in, not to mention Deshaun Watson, but you could get like a massage, different therapy like that.
You can eat.
You know, the facility is open to the employees of the business.
So that's how things are.
But the limits that are in place right now are going to stay in place.
And also during this time, and you know, whatever your opinions are here,
it is mentioned that the clubs will make vaccines available
to the players, the staff, and their families
during this first phase of the program.
So the NFL is really hoping to get as many players and staff
around the league vaccinated during that four-week time span.
The second phase of the program is where we see some on-field drill start,
and it's only one week long from May 17th to May 21st, but the virtual meetings will
continue and then on-field drills can actually take place with coaches.
Now there's no contact in those drills.
The pace of those drills has to stay pretty low, but that's still on-field work.
And then the third and final phase is going to be from May 24th to June the 18th.
And this is where you get the traditional organized team activities, the 10-day period,
full speed drills out on the field, but of course, no contact. You'll have in-person and virtual
meetings, and it does include a mandatory mini camp. Remember, the big thing about this offseason program is for most veterans,
this is all voluntary stuff until that mandatory minicamp in the third phase. So when you take
that into account, that is going to lead us into the next part of our discussion here,
where we're seeing NFL teams basically as a group boycott any voluntary work whatsoever during the offseason.
The NFL Players Association is making the case that due to COVID-19, it's not safe for
players to be at the facility as much as the NFL and the teams want the players to be there.
Now, I've already weighed in on the pros and cons of that situation.
I talked about that yesterday.
But I do want to give you guys an update here that we've seen more teams than what we talked about on yesterday's show.
Add to the list of teams that are boycotting voluntary workouts.
But it's getting a little interesting, I will say so the first three teams who originally boycotted the voluntary offseason workouts were the Broncos the Seahawks and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but then on Wednesday we saw the Detroit Lions also do that and we saw the New England Patriots come out and do that but here's where it gets a little dicey the New England Patriots press release from the NFL Players Association said many, quote
unquote, many players will be participating in a boycott.
Well, that doesn't mean all.
And that gets us back.
It gets us back to what I talked about yesterday.
us back to what I talked about yesterday. If you're a guy who is okay with getting vaccinated as a football player, you're a patriot, and you're already vaccinated, or you plan to get vaccinated,
and you're a young guy, you're a new rookie, you're an undrafted free agent from last year,
you're a futures contract that was signed early in the offseason.
Are you going to stay out of the facility? Are you going to not go in and do in-person meetings with your coaches? Are you going to not go into the facility and get your workouts in?
Are you going to not go into the facility and do on-field drills when they're available to you?
When you're a guy who's scraping and clawing for your NFL life and any little thing can
either be the end of your career or the reason you stick on a 53.
This, as I said yesterday, this boycotting the NFL program for the offseason, it's designed,
the whole philosophy of it is designed to help veteran players
who have more of a say in the players union.
It is not designed to help the young players who are scratching and clawing for their NFL
life, who need as many reps, who need as much experience in the building, who need as much
one-on-one time with their coaches as possible.
These are for the veterans who have their own personal trainer.
They have their plan figured trainer. They have their plan
figured out. They have their off-season figured out. If you could work from home as much as
possible, wouldn't you? I would. I love working from home. But if I'm honest, it's easier to work
at the office, to be around my co-workers and have real-time dialogue, not in a chat.
my coworkers and have real-time dialogue, not in a chat.
Person-to-person work and person-to-person contact will always be more efficient.
To me, it's like online dating.
You can talk all you want, texting, on Snapchat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, chatting all day long.
But in my opinion, you don't really make a connection with somebody until you look at
them in the eyes. You see their body language. but in my opinion, you don't really make a connection with somebody until you look at them
in the eyes. You see their body language. You see their facial expressions, how they react to jokes,
how they react to things that you say. Does this make them smile? Does this make them frown? Does
this make their eyes move in a certain way? All of those physical cues are important to
communication and language with the human race.
And we're getting too deep down the rabbit hole here, but the point is, the reality is
guys are going to develop more, especially the young guys, by working in the facility
at their job with their coaches than they are working on their own, especially the young
guys.
There are veterans who are just as productive working on their own, sure, but not for a
lot of young guys. And the majority of the NFL are roster bubble guys who are scratching and productive working on their own, sure. But not for a lot of young guys.
And the majority of the NFL are roster bubble guys
who are scratching and clawing for their life.
And they can't afford to boycott these voluntary workouts.
They just can't afford to do it.
Now, speaking of affording to miss workouts,
here's one thing that I did want to mention to you that again,
things are a little dicey from the NFL PA's front. So certain teams, and this is a team by team
basis, certain teams will put off season workout bonuses into players contracts. So you show up for
a certain amount of voluntary workouts, you get a bonus, you get more money.
If you're a guy with that in your contract,
you're going to decline the money
for safety reasons?
No, you're not.
And that's why the NFLPA has instructed
four teams
who do participate in off-season workout bonuses,
four organizations who do that very often in contracts,
the NFLPA has told those four rosters of people,
oh, you should go to your workouts and get your money.
Well, if safety was the primary concern,
then why would you tell those four teams,
yeah, go ahead and go to the offseason workouts?
Why? Because there's money involved? So is the money more important than the safety at the end
of the day? And the reality is you're not that concerned about the safety in terms of COVID-19
protocols. And really you just want to get your players union out of work and out of the building
as much as possible. What's really going on here? You guys can make your own assumptions about that it's pretty
obvious how I feel but once again it's a dicey situation but the Titans are not a team that does
off-season workout bonuses nobody on the roster right now has an off-season workout bonus in their
contract so will the Titans as a roster boycott those off-season workouts because there's no
financial incentive for them to do it I don't know we will see again as a roster boycott those all-season workouts because there's no financial incentive for them to do it?
I don't know.
We will see again.
As I said yesterday, I will update you guys when the Titans make a decision.
If they come out and say anything at all, I will be right there to let you know.
But that's going to do it for this Thursday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
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