Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Titans Make BIG Moves - Robert Woods Trade, Austin Hooper Signing Instant Analysis & Reaction!!
Episode Date: March 20, 2022The Tennessee Titans made some MONSTER moves over the weekend! The Titans traded for wide receiver Robert Woods and signed tight end Austin Hooper along with bringing back some 2021 Titans. First, Tyl...er breaks down ALL aspects of the Robert Woods trade. Player profile, scheme fit, statistical recap, downsides and the financials! Next, Tyler dives into the Austin Hooper signing! Who is Hooper as a player, why he fits so well and what it means for the Titans tight end spot going forward. Finally, the Titans brought back some familiar faces from 2021. Tyler discusses who has returned and why it makes sense.Follow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitansSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Locked on Titans podcast.
I am your host, Tyler Rowland.
Titans fans, it is a Monday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
And boy, was it a big weekend for the Tennessee Titans.
The Titans signed tight end Austin Hooper,
and then they followed that up by trading for wide receiver Robert Woods.
I'm breaking down both of those big acquisitions,
talking about who these guys are as players,
the financial ramifications, and much more.
Also, the Titans officially signed some other guys over the weekend as well,
bringing back three players from the 2021 Tennessee Titans.
I'll go over all of those signings as well.
So a big-time weekend for John Robinson and I'm breaking down all of it on a
Monday edition of the locked on Titans podcast.
Let's get it.
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I am your host, Tyler Rowland.
Been a Tennessee Titans fan for long over 20 years.
Do a focus of X's and O's on this show.
We're always talking about the schematics, breaking things down.
But, of course, when things do happen and we get big news and notes out of Nashville,
I'm always going to dive into the big stories as well.
So very excited to dive into the big stories that came out of this weekend.
And John Robinson told the Tennessee Titans chorus of concern
to watch your mouth when you're talking to me.
John Robinson is considered to go for a reason, but all jokes aside, there was some concern about
what this offense would look like. The mantra for the offseason was get better around Ryan Tannehill,
and I got to admit, I was a bit concerned, as a lot of you guys were, that John Robinson wasn't going
to be able to do that with the options available on the market, but the magician himself, as
I said last week, he was going to have to pull some tricks out of his hat to be able
to make this offense better around Ryan Tannehill, and by God, over the weekend, he handled it
in the best way possible.
John Robinson goes out first, and he gets tight end Austin Hooper, which obviously
fills a big need for the Titans. He comes back and he trades for Robert Woods on Saturday evening,
picking him up from the Los Angeles Rams. And that's where we're going to start talking about
that Robert Woods trade. The Titans cut Julio Jones. They had a big need for a reliable veteran
playmaker across from the star that is A.J. Brown.
The free agent market was kind of dried up at the time.
The thought was he's going to have to make some sort of trade.
With the Rams bringing on Allen Robinson as a free agent,
that created quite a surplus in their wide receiver room,
so it made sense for the Titans and the Rams to get a trade done.
It's not the first time that the Titans and the Rams have been able to get a trade done. It's not the first time that the Titans and the Rams have
been able to get a trade done. These teams are intertwined throughout NFL history for better or
for worse. But taking a look at this Robert Woods trade, it seems like the Titans are now out of the
woods at wide receiver. Okay, I'm sorry. I had to get it in just once. But again, a trade. The Titans only give up a sixth round pick in 2023. So incredible value
for John Robinson. We saw a guy like Amari Cooper go for a fifth round pick and he cost $20 million.
So you get Robert Woods on a sixth round pick. And you take a look at some of the sixth round
picks that the Titans have had in recent history. I mean, outside of David Long, you got your Sebastian
Tretolas, your Brady Breezes, your Racy McMahons. Think about it. This is just an incredible value
and did not have to give up that draft pick in 2022. This upcoming draft, you can continue
to stock the cupboards. That's absolutely fantastic. But we know what the Titans gave up.
We know that it was a value. Who is Robert Woods, though, as a player, and why does this work so well?
Well, it's pretty easy.
He is an all-around wide receiver.
No, he's not spectacular at any one thing.
He's not incredibly elite at any one thing, but he has the entire package.
The thing I would say he is the best at overall is his route running.
Robert Woods is fantastic with his short to intermediate route running.
We're talking about crossers.
We're talking about digs.
We're talking about slants.
Intermediate to short area, and that's exactly where the Titans like to go.
They like to use those play-action fakes
and then hit the ball over the middle in that intermediate rage
and allow for yards after the catch opportunities,
and that's what Robert Woods is going to bring as well.
So he's got good hands.
He's a really good route runner, gives you yards after catch ability,
and we got to talk about his toughness.
He's a guy who's not afraid to go over the middle of the field,
and he likes to block, and he's a good blocker as well.
And we can joke all we want, but it's a serious thing.
The Titans organization values blocking from their wide receiver position
probably more than any other franchise in the NFL, quite frankly.
And Robert Woods is tied for second most run block wins,
288 over the last five years.
The only person that is ahead of him is his former teammate, Cooper Cupp.
So a guy who not only likes to block, is willing to block,
and is successful at blocking as well.
So he kind of fits the mold of everything that the Titans would want in a wide receiver.
He's played in 125 games in his career, 570 catches, 7,077 yards, 35 touchdowns.
Last year he played nine games, had 45 catches, 556 yards, and 35 touchdowns. Last year, he played nine games, had 45 catches,
556 yards, and four touchdowns.
And that brings us to the concern here.
There are some downsides, and there's a reason
that Robert Woods, despite being an incredibly productive player
throughout his career, an incredibly durable player
throughout his career, why he's going for a sixth-round pick in 2023.
And other than the surplus at wide receiver for the Rams,
there is injury concern because Robert Woods did tear his ACL
on November the 12th last season,
and he didn't finish the season with the Rams.
So there's concern there.
He's got to recover from an ACL tear.
He is going to be 30 years old by the time that the season comes.
So that's all fair concerns.
But the reality is Robert Woods tore his ACL.
Everyone has said that his rehab and his recovery is on schedule.
It's on time.
Right now the projection is even if he takes as long as Bud Dupree took
to get back from his ACL tear, 34 weeks would be that time frame,
and that would be into the middle of June,
which Robert Woods would then have an additional four to six weeks
to get ready before the end of July when training camp starts.
So Robert Woods should have a target date of training camp,
and that would be nearly 40 weeks after he tore his ACL,
which if you go by logical recovery standards in the modern NFL,
that is completely reasonable that he would be ready by training
camp.
So ACLs aren't quite what they have been before.
Now, guys are usually not 100% ready to go after that ACL recovery, but I have faith
here that Robert Woods has enough time to get ready and be healthy enough to contribute
for the Titans, but I do want to at least acknowledge some of the concerns.
The next thing you got to talk about when a trade like this happens is the financial aspect of the trade. That's the big
question. Everybody always says the Titans don't have cap room. So how in the heck are they going
to make this work? Well, Robert Woods is set to get $13.5 million against the cap in 2022. Now,
according to Paul Kaharski, the report is there is no new contract right now for Robert
Woods. So let's assume that his deal stays the same and is not restructured when he is officially
added to the Titans after passing a physical. Well, 13.5 in 2022 when the Titans don't have
any cap space does seem a little crazy. The Titans right now, if you look at most websites over the cap,
you look at SpotTrack, the Titans are at about minus five in cap space,
which you're thinking, how is that even possible?
But there are restructures that take place here where guys restructure their contracts,
turn salary into signing bonus, spread that signing bonus money
out throughout the rest of their contract,
which penalizes you in future years if you want to cut the player, but gives you short-term cap relief in this season 2022.
And I've said this all along throughout the offseason, the Titans are a couple restructures
away from doing whatever they want.
So you've got the $13.5 million from Robert Woods coming in.
A couple of the other guys that have signed recently
are probably going to be anywhere from,
in terms of cap hit, probably about $6 to $7 million.
So the Titans probably got to clear out about $20 million
in cap space for the Robert Woods move
and all the other moves they made over the weekend.
But again, Kevin Byard, Taylor LeJuan,
right there, you restructure them. That's $13 million.
You do Derrick Henry, there's your additional six.
So you're close to $20 million right there.
They could get $14 million right away with Ryan Tannehill,
although I don't think that's the route that they should go.
They could also do a restructure with Robert Woods.
The thing about Robert Woods' contract is he doesn't have any guaranteed money going forward.
So this is a very low risk move from John Robinson's
perspective. You can cut bait with Robert Woods. If he doesn't recover well enough from his ACL,
you can restructure his deal going forward and there'll be minimal penalties in the future.
So he could restructure Robert Woods when he becomes a Titan, turn that into $6 million
into savings. Now you have all of the money that you need to fit in all the moves that were made over the weekend. So big time move from John Robinson. Quieted a lot of people in the Titans
fan base who were feigning concern. I got to say, I was part of that group as well. I was a little
bit concerned, but of course we always discuss that he had time to make the moves that needed
to be made before the draft. And here we are. Robert Woods, Austin Hooper added to the Tennessee Titans.
And speaking of Austin Hooper, that is who we are going to talk about next.
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Titans fans, let's continue this Monday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
Boy, it was a big weekend for the Tennessee Titans.
We just talked about the trade for Robert Woods giving up a sixth round pick in 2023.
Low financial risk going forward.
A guy who schematically fits exactly what the Titans like to do on offense.
And personality-wise fits exactly what the Titans like to do on offense. Another personality-wise fits exactly what the Titans like to do on offense.
Another guy who was added over the weekend is Austin Hooper,
who the Titans signed.
That's what we're going to talk about now.
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But diving into this Austin Hooper trade.
So if you go back to March the 7th
when David Njoku was given the franchise tag
by the Cleveland Browns.
On my Twitter, at Tic Tac Titans,
I immediately, immediately retweeted that news and said,
with this news, it would make sense for the Cleveland Browns to cut Austin Hooper, and
he would immediately become a great target for the Tennessee Titans, one of the top tight
end targets that they could go after, especially after you saw Dalton Schultz and David Njoku
and Mike Gasicki get tagged, Gronkowski probably going back
to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Now you're looking at a ton of mid-range tight ends
who may not be worth the money, who have had different issues
here and there, whether it be health or a couple down seasons
production-wise, but Austin Hooper is a two-time Pro Bowler.
He's only 27 years old.
He made a lot of sense as a guy who could come in and catch on with the Titans,
maybe on a one-year deal, but then ultimately maybe stick around if things go well.
And that's obviously what the Titans are hoping for
because they did sign Austin Hooper on Friday to a one-year $6 million deal.
Now, as we've seen with basically every contract that the Titans sign nowadays,
the cap hit doesn't match what the annual value is.
The annual value for Hooper this year is $6 million.
I would imagine that his cap hit, what actually hits the cap,
is going to be about $3.5 to $4 million,
probably a void year on there to split up the bonus money.
Either way, outside of the financials,
which are easily manageable and not a big deal,
Austin Hooper is a perfect player for the Titans offense.
No, he's not a guy who's going to have great yards after catch ability
like Jonu Smith.
He's not a guy who's going to block as well as some of the best blocking
tight ends in the league like George Kittle or Lee Smith or Patrick Ricard.
No, no.
But he's a guy who does everything pretty well,
and it's kind of similar to Robert Woods.
He's just a do-it-all, all-around solid player.
6'4", 255 pounds.
Like I said, 27 years old as a two-time Pro Bowler,
so still a lot of juice to get out of that squeeze.
He went to Cleveland, and no doubt about it,
we got to be honest here, his production dipped pretty mightily.
He had 38 catches, 345 yards, three touchdowns in 2021.
Not very impressive, not all that much better
than what we saw from Jeff Swaim, quite frankly,
but there is a major tight end committee going on in Cleveland with Harrison Bryant.
Obviously, they thought very, very highly of David Njoku to not only give him the franchise
tag, but then to cut Austin Hooper eventually.
So one thing I will say about Austin Hooper and the Robert Woods transactions that's also
very good, they will not hurt the Titans comp pick formula because Austin Hooper was released
by the Browns.
Not signed as a regular unrestricted free agent.
That means it won't hurt the Titans getting comp picks next year.
It's not going to hurt them in that formula.
And since Robert Woods was a trade.
It's not going to hurt either.
So that's awesome.
That's what you like to see.
Those are good moves by John Robinson.
But going back to that Cleveland performance.
Like I said.
Not incredibly productive.
But he's been a part of a committee. By John Robinson. But going back to that Cleveland performance. Like I said not incredibly productive.
But he's been a part of a committee.
The last two seasons with the Browns.
Were his lowest snap counts.
Of his career outside of his rookie season.
So the proof is right there.
The guy just isn't getting as many snaps.
As he's gotten in recent years.
So obviously that's going to be a dip in production. Not to mention a very run heavy.
Run first offense in Cleveland. And let's call it what it is. Baker Mayfield isn't as good as Matt
Ryan in his prime. And that's what Austin Hooper was dealing with at the beginning of his career
that got him a pretty good contract from the Browns was great statistical seasons with 700
plus yards, six touchdowns, 70 catches, seasons like that with prime Matt Ryan.
So when you give him a good quarterback, which I think Ryan Tannehill is probably a step
below prime Matt Ryan, but Ryan Tannehill is still a pretty solid player.
We got to admit, even though everybody's mad at him, no, he's not elite, but he's still
a very solid player in that second tier of quarterbacks.
He's going to be able to get Austin Hooper the ball.
And I think that he's got a chance to be a lot more productive in Tennessee
than he was in Cleveland, despite still filling that role.
I'm thinking 500 yards, 45 catches, four touchdowns, you know,
somewhere in there, just a productive tight end.
That's at the end of the day, the biggest,
the biggest thing is it's a big improvement on Jeff Swaim.
And finally,
it's going to slot Jeff Swaim into the tight end two on early downs,
tight end three on late downs role that he is supposed to be in.
Now, I also want to mention this.
We talked about Austin Hooper catching the ball.
He's got 88 games in his career, 298 catches, 3,024 yards, 23 touchdowns.
But he's also a good blocker.
The second best run blocking grade of his entire
career, a 64.2, happened last year in 2021. So he's a guy who's still able to block as good as
he's ever blocked in his career. And when you think about what the Titans had at tight end last year,
Anthony Ferkser and Jeff Swaim both had run blocking grades under 55. So Austin Hooper is nearly 10 points better or more
than both of Jeff Swaim and Anthony Fergster.
So while maybe Austin Hooper isn't George Kittle,
or maybe John U. Smith, he's pretty close to that.
He's right around there.
So a very solid blocker, a guy who's going to get open,
is a good route runner, has some drop issues,
but catching balls from Baker Mayfield,
who was incredibly hurt last year and had shoulder issues,
I'll give Austin Hooper a chance,
but there's a reason that he was cut and available.
He's not a guy who's got great yards after catchability.
There are some drop issues as well, but he's incredibly smart.
He's a good route runner, knows where to go, where to be,
knows how to read defenses.
Good blocker, reliable guy. I mean, where to be. Knows how to read defenses. Good blocker.
Reliable guy.
I mean, this is what you want.
This made perfect sense.
Get Austin Hooper.
Get Jeff Swaim in the tight end three role.
Draft a tight end in the mid rounds who's an athletic guy who you can groom behind Austin Hooper who can be a role player for you.
You got Swaim and Hooper out there on early downs to block.
You can use that drafted tight end as a secondary tight end on some second downs.
Use him on third down.
It just is a perfect alignment for the tight end skill position players.
Now we circle back to the Robert Woods discussion.
If you got Robert Woods, you got A.J. Brown, you got Nick Westbrook-Akina,
you add a wide receiver in the first round like a Chris Olave, a Garrett Wilson, a Trelon Burks, a Jamison Williams, who everybody is very, very high on me as well,
which is why I'm not quite certain if we should bank on him being at 26.
But who knows there?
Drake London even maybe.
Now, I would like to see some more speed from the Titans with that drafted wide receiver.
So Wilson or Olave or Williams are the perfect fit for me.
Those three are higher than Burks or London,
who are more physical, big-bodied receivers.
But either way, the Titans are in a position now
where they can go into the draft
and really get those perfect young role players,
but not be hamstrung and have to go too early or be too bold.
They can let the draft come to them,
take the best player available at positions of
need, and it can make a ton of sense for the Titans.
The O-line obviously still maybe needs some reinforcements, but we'll watch how that plays
out as more cuts are made.
And there's still some veterans out there as well.
I'd love to see Dennis Kelly or David Questenberry brought back just for some stability.
We'll monitor all that.
But man, what a weekend for John Robinson.
What a weekend for the Titans.
I was out on Saturday night celebrating my birthday with my lovely girlfriend and all
this news started coming out.
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So thank you guys all so much.
I definitely do appreciate it.
But we're going to cap off today's show talking about the other moves
that were made over the weekend since the last time I talked to you guys.
We got three more signings, former Titans coming back to the team from 2021.
Kind of put a cap on that, tell you who those three players are.
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Titans fans, let's cap off this Monday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
We've talked about the trade for Bobby Trees, Robert Woods.
Very excited about that.
We talked about the Titans signing Austin Hooper.
Woods. Very excited about that.
We talked about the Titans signing Austin Hooper.
Excited to hear that
in Nissan Stadium this
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But outside adding Robert Woods and Austin Hooper,
the Titans also brought back some guys from last year's team.
Number one, Don Trell Hilliard.
And I'm glad that this happened.
People were freaking out about Deonta Foreman going to the Carolina Panthers.
I wasn't. Still think it was the right move. Titans don't need to pay
Foreman $2 million to be a Henry light
when you have Henry back and healthy. Plus $2 million when you're paying
Derrick Henry $12 million. It's incredibly risky
to put that much money towards the running back position and if you're paying Derrick Henry $12 million, it's incredibly risky to put that much money towards
the running back position. And if you're honest with yourself and you look around the NFL,
running back production is the easiest to find cheap. I mean, don't forget the Titans picked
Hilliard and Foreman up off the street in the middle of the season. And now everybody's in
love with them. It just goes to show you how easy it is to find good running back production.
It's more about your system.
It's more about your offensive line.
Now, if you have the system in the offensive line,
and you have a supremely elite talented running back like a Derrick Henry,
yes, that does matter.
But when we're talking about role players and backups at the running back position,
the Titans would value way more than a Derrick Henry light.
They're going to value the compliment player.
And like I told you last week when the Titans signed Trenton Cannon
as a role player, a special team, or a kick returner,
I told you this guy is not a running back, too.
This guy is not somebody who you want out there on third downs.
He is a kick returner, and I think he's on the roster bubble.
I'm not even certain that he will make the team,
but he's going to try to make it on as a returner
because that's something that the Titans have been looking for.
Dontrell Hilliard gives them that, though,
and Hilliard was brought back.
Very excited to see that.
Played eight games for the Titans last year.
Had 56 carries, 350 yards, two touchdowns.
Did have some fumbles here and there that he started to clean up
later in the year as he got more comfortable.
He had 19 catches for 87 yards and eight returns on kickoffs for 177 yards.
So he was a very productive, versatile role player.
And later in the year,
he took over for Jeremy McNichols entirely
because Hilliard started being better in pass protection
than Jeremy McNichols.
And the only thing that kept Jeremy McNichols
on the roster for the last few years
was his pass protection on third downs
because Derrick Henry just is not very
good at it. There's no way around it. He's not good enough. He's improved, but he's still not
good enough. So the Titans need that guy. Hilliard became a pretty decent pass protector late in the
year, along with the versatility display. He's got good juice, good burst. We saw him hit some
holes, have good speed. He can be that kick returner. So I like Hilliard. I think he's going to be around.
I think prioritizing Hilliard at a million dollars is more important than Foreman at $2 million
because he's a compliment.
He's a more versatile guy who can actually play on special teams as well.
I think that makes a lot of sense.
Jordan Wilkins was also brought back,
although I don't think that he ultimately makes the roster.
He's just a special teams guy.
It doesn't give you enough at running back.
Wasn't impressed with what Jordan Wilkins did last year
for the Titans at the end of the year either.
He was brought back.
Buster Screen, who is a guy that we've talked about
when we talked about the cornerback position,
the free agency preview, a guy who made sense to bring back.
I've been talking about the fact that the Titans need a veteran.
They can't go out and draft another cornerback
and just have all guys who are on their rookie contract,
along with Fulton and Farley and Molden and Chris Jackson.
They needed a veteran.
Buster Screen played six games with the Titans last year at 27 tackles,
had an interception, three pass breakups.
He played 64% of the defensive snaps when he was with the team.
When he was targeted, 15 catches out of 24 targets,
only 188 yards, zero touchdowns in that one interception.
I mean, Buster Screen played great for the Titans
when he was asked to play a proper role.
And what role was it that Screen was playing?
He was the passing down slot cornerback.
So Elijah Molden would play on first and second down
because he's a better blitzer, he's a more physical player,
he's a better tackler, he can come forward
when the Titans are playing zone coverage.
But when the Titans get in the third down, they get into passing situations.
They go to that man coverage look that they really like.
Buster Screen was out there to play the slot cornerback position
with Jack Rabbit Jenkins and Christian Fulton,
and now that's going to be Caleb Farley.
And I think the Titans like Screen enough that if Farley isn't ready to go
early on or doesn't really recover from the ACL tear as quickly
and as well as the Titans are hoping,
I think Buster Screen can slide in there
and play some outside cornerback for the Titans as well.
So really like that re-signing.
Keep a veteran with that group,
a guy who played well last year getting rewarded.
And then finally, another guy who was brought back by the Titans,
Bulletproof Randy Bullock.
Randy Bullock back with the Titans on a two-year deal. Basically
a one-year deal with a team option on the second year. But as Mike Vrabel said to him in the
locker room after a game-winning kick, Randy, you found a home here. And the Titans put their money
where their mouth is. Signed Randy Bullock back. He was 26 for 31 on field goals last year. 42 of
45 on extra points. Made a few game-winning kicks for the Titans.
They ended up being very, very crucial, obviously,
in them getting the number one seed and getting the bye,
even if that was fruitless.
But either way, I thought Randy Bullock was solid last year,
and after the kicker carousel that the Titans went through the last few years
to have Randy Bullock in the fold and have him comfortable on a contract
after a pretty decent year, I think that's very, very important to the Titans.
So that's all the things that happened over the weekend.
Four signings, guys who were with the Titans last year.
The trade for Bobby Trees, Robert Woods, the signing of Austin Hooper.
I mean, this is just fantastic stuff from John Robinson.
The panic was misplaced. The concern was totally out of line.
J-Rob to go.
The magician pulls off some more tricks once again.
They're not completely foolproof,
but the Titans are on their way to being better
around Ryan Tannehill in 2022.
That was the mission,
and the Titans are closer than ever
at getting towards completing it.
We still got the NFL draft ahead.
There could be some more signings.
I'd like to even see maybe another veteran wide receiver added,
maybe a Jamison Crowder.
Jarvis Landry is going to be out of the question with the money
that he's going to get.
But I think a guy like Jamison Crowder could make a little bit of sense
depending on how much money he is going to cost.
But we're going to cover all of that tomorrow.
I'm going to look at the depth chart on offense,
look at the needs remaining, what the Titans can do.
A fantastic weekend.
Once again, thank you all so much
for your support. But that's going to do it for me
today, folks. As always, I
am your host, Tyler Rowland,
and this was Locked on
Titans.