Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - TITANS SQUAD SHOW: Cam Ward's turnovers ARE A PROBLEM, offense still NOT GOOD ENOUGH, injury issues

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Julian Minnesone. Cam Ward's turnover troubles continue, but can he fix it? We'll talk about it. I'm Tyler Rowland, and we saw the good, bad, and ugly from Cam Ward in week seven, but there's no way you can already call him a bust.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I'm Brad Hopkins. Nine more weeks left in the season. We don't know where we are at this point. Titan up. It's the Titans squad. Everything Tennessee Titans every week. Covering all the big hits and games. changing plays from the heart of Music City the way only the locked on podcast network can squad up
Starting point is 00:00:37 the titan squad show starts now and welcome to the titan squad show i'm your host julian minnecone alongside brad hopkins tyler roland a lot to talk to today this week as the titans are coming off a loss to the new england patriots we're of course going to talk about cam ward his turnover troubles Can he fix them and the things we thought that Cam Ward did well on Sunday? The injury list continues to mount for the Titans. How much of a concern is that? And we'll take your comments, questions, concerns throughout the show. Thank you for tuning into the Titan Squad show, making it a part of your day.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Make sure to like, comment, subscribe, all that fun stuff, and listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use. across the app. Now, we want to start with one of our favorite segments is tighten up versus tighten down.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Tyler, I'll start with you. We'll start with some positivity here on a Tuesday. What are some of the things you are tightened up about this morning? Chim D-K. I mean, Jim D-K had a little bit of a breakout performance. The four catches, 70 yards, and a touchdown, has a 31-yard return. We knew that he's been impactful in the return game so far this year,
Starting point is 00:01:52 which is something that, you know, it's kind of been buried under all the other crap that's made the season not as fun that, you know, but the special teams has been good and the Titans have been begging for a returner that doesn't just catch the ball. Like, we've been worried so long about can this guy even field the ball and catch it.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Not only could D.K. catch it, he can return it a little bit too, and that's something that hasn't been around for a while here, and I think that's pretty exciting. And then for him to get into the game and actually play some wide receiver and not just be used as a gadget guy on reverses and quick screens for him to actually have an opportunity. to run a normal route tree and make an impact down the field with the speed.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We knew coming into the season this was a team that didn't have a ton of speed at any part of the team, let alone on offense. So he adds that element for him to have a breakout game not only as a returner, but as a receiver. And then what we just saw last night, fellas, with Tyler Lockett getting released, who might be able to go in the tight and down section. Like, I think that release of Tyler Lockett,
Starting point is 00:02:51 some people have skewed that negative because, hey, the team's 1 and 6, everything's negative, but I think the release of Tyler Lockett is actually a positive thing for the Titans and what it means for Chim D.K. And some of the young guys to get opportunities go more tight-end heavy. So I think my titan up here is Chim D-K's emergence in this game as a true wide receiver, and then the subsequent release of Tyler Lockett and the confidence that that shows in playing some of these young guys more throughout the year. Yeah, I thought Van Jefferson stepped up four or four for 41 yards. Maybe that does alleviate some of the, I guess, the cloudiness in that room, just getting rid of a personality that could be possibly taken away reps.
Starting point is 00:03:31 But, you know, my positive first off is this is probably the best first quarter that we saw from the Tennessee Titans. Kind of sad to say, but it was the best first quarter. They had a lead. Cam was 10 of 11 for 144 yards. You mentioned the D.K. touchdown. You know, obviously they had a lead until about five minutes to go in the second quarter. So, you know, I'm always on Dan Moore. Dan Moore leads the team of penalties.
Starting point is 00:03:51 but after a rough start, he's played better the last three weeks, you know? So I think that there's obviously something to look at there. You know, like when you're trying to get that fire started, when you're around the campground, you see these sparks, right? It's not a fire yet, but it's just a spark. That's what I saw in the first quarter, some potential, if anything. Yeah, I'll probably bounce off what Tyler said earlier with not just Jim D.K. with the 70 yards, and obviously he's been a revelation in the return game.
Starting point is 00:04:16 But the young receivers, at least early on, I thought, did pretty okay. I mean, Gunner Helm got in on the action a little bit more. He had four catches. Elyke-Iommaner made some plays early. It's just, I think if I were to kind of tie together a tighten up versus a tightened down, the rookie receivers have been solid this year, but can you do it for four quarters? I think the inconsistency are still there.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Obviously, this was a little bit of a different game, and usually what we've seen from the Titans is a slow start, like Brad was saying, and then they turn it up in the second half or the fourth quarter or whatever when they have to come back and the defenses are in like prevent situations. This was the opposite where you had a great start, but then you couldn't sustain it over the course of four quarters. But I got to tell you, fellas, I was happy with where the Titans were at the end of halftime. I mean, outside of the Drake May played a K. Sean Booty, which lost them to lead at halftime and then the Patriots get the ball back. And of course, it went all downhill from there. I was happy with the way
Starting point is 00:05:13 this team was competing. What about you guys? Yeah, I agree with that. Honestly, without the Cam Ward turnovers at the end of the game, which we'll talk about those, the drop in the ball, the interception on the bad throw. Like, if those weren't part of this game, this would be a perfect Titans game for 2025. Like, we all came into the season understanding, all right, this team's not very good.
Starting point is 00:05:33 The Patriots have turned out to be a very good team. The Titans aren't going to beat a lot of very good football teams. But if Cam Ward can play well, the young guys can step up and show some things, and the Titans lose, that might be all you can ask for. You know, they competed hard, their young guys played well,
Starting point is 00:05:49 they lost to a better football team. Like, I figured we would see a lot. That's what we wanted out of the season, in my opinion. I came in predicting the Titans would win five games this year. I was hoping for a lot of, hey, they competed hard, the young guys played well, they just aren't good enough to beat a lot of teams. That's what I was hoping to see a lot of this year.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And sadly, we didn't get that very much early on. It was just absolute disgrace with nobody looking good. So if not for the two bad turnovers that kind of warp the conversation around Cam Ward, this is honestly kind of a digestible loss in my opinion when you look at some of the other things like Gunner Helm was great too and not only in the past game but in the blocking game and you look at some of the snap counts
Starting point is 00:06:29 you know Chicka Conquo early in the year out snapping Gunner Helm by 25 28 snaps that's come way back down now it's like 5, 6, 7, 8 which is what I think the difference should have been all along so I know it's kind of hard to say this there are no moral victories but the young guys looking pretty good the Titans competing and fighting hard for a half, you know what I mean, the best they can. And then things kind of falling off as a better team takes control.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I could have dealt with a lot of those losses this year. And I'm not as discouraged today as maybe it felt immediately after the game because looking at Cam Ward's tape, it's not quite as bad as maybe the two terrible plays make it seem. You know, I think what's interesting is that heading into this season, you kind of mark off some teams that you think might struggle that the Titans might have a chance to be. this is before we saw the record, right? Those teams are playing well. Danny Dimes is being considered
Starting point is 00:07:21 one of the best quarterbacks in the game. His offensive line is being, you know, lauded as a team that, you know, has control with the line of scrimmage, that kind of stuff. Look at the Patriots. Are you kidding me? Five and two right now?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Second in the division. You know, obviously in Mark Verville's first season. So those teams, you know, those teams that we're playing that we thought we might have wins against, they're playing, you know, some exceptional football. And the thing is, you know, how we always hear Shaq talking about the others and how the others have to contribute.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's just full of others. They don't have that guy, you know what I mean? The one that really demands the focus of the opponent. And, you know, with that, it's just a lot of room for people to be discovered. And it's kind of hard. You know what I mean, when you're not consistent, you know, to use guys that just don't have that star power. The NFL is full of star power. It's just not here as on at least the offensive side of the football anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I mean, we have one star. You know, they gets mentioned all the time, this big 98. and unfortunately the hamstring might slow him down just a pinch. But either way, he needs help, Cam needs help, Cam needs to develop. But at the end of the day, I think that this team, you know, it could do some more to help itself out down the road. I wanted to talk to you guys about obviously Mike McCoy when he took over. It was a short week and a whirlwind of a week after Brian Callahan getting fired.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Something he talked about is he wanted to tailor the offense to players, not plays, and put his guys in the best position to succeed. From what you saw, and granted it was a short, technically, you know, from him taking over. From what you saw in the tweaks that he made, are you a little bit more confident that he can get the most out of, particularly the young guys and specifically Cam Ward moving forward? Because like you said, Bhop, he started off pretty darn good at 10 of 11. Yeah. I think that when you talk about a simplified game plan, what you're trying to do is you're trying to take the thinking out of it. Run plays that are familiar, run plays that
Starting point is 00:09:08 you have success doing. So that way you can just simply react to what the defense gives you versus, am I supposed to be doing this? Am I supposed to be doing that? Sometimes when you're so complex, the thinking slows you down. And I think that for the quarterback position is probably the most prevalent. You know what I mean? You don't want to give him a whole playbook of stuff to have to worry about. Give him a few plays that he knows that he can run effectively.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The offense has confidence that he can get those things done. And then you play with the speed and the efficiency that allow you to be successful. That's what he's talking about. Taking out all the minutia, all the craziness, all the gadget stuff and all the things to think about. and just get out there and play some damn football. At the end of the day, that's what this comes down to, right? It's about making the guy on the other side of line scrimmage, submit to your will.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And the only way that you can do that is you've been running and doing things that you feel confident about. And they've yet to find what that is. Before the game got out of hand, we got a, you know, game script is a thing. You can't, you know, stick to the run game when you're down 31 to 13. You know what I mean? Like that takes you out of what your plan was. But when the game was in a neutral game script, I liked what we saw from
Starting point is 00:10:13 Mike McCoy. There was less slow developing run plays. They went so much heavier with zone runs instead of the gap runs that they had been doing. And for those listing, the zone runs are the quick hitting runs where you're blocking an area of the field as an offensive lineman rather than a man responsibility. When you see pullers coming from the backside, tight ends and guards pulling from one side to the other side, those are usually gap runs. And those are slower hitting runs and the Titans just haven't been able to hold their blocks long enough for those to hit really well so they got to more quick hitting zone runs
Starting point is 00:10:45 which I think is very important for this offense they don't have the ability to run these slower developing plays and they kind of cut those out other than two little orbit motions we had the orbit motion screen to Chim DK orbit motion fake screened to Chim DK where they tried to hit the
Starting point is 00:11:00 down the sideline to Gunner Helm on a bad pass by Cam Ward but they kind of cut out all the nonsense and went with simpler things quicker hitting zone runs in the run game. And the run game didn't really get going, but again, the game got away from them in the second half. You couldn't go to the run as much. And I thought early on, we saw play action, moving pockets. The touchdown was a play action and a moving pocket where you got Cam Ward out of the
Starting point is 00:11:26 nonsense and he's just out there by himself and you see the arm talent and the ability to deliver credit to Gunner Helm on that one as well. One of my Titans up for a one-on-one block that made that play possible. But I did like what Mike McCoy was doing, keeping short routes over the middle. A lot of drag routes, a lot of crossing routes. Some of Kim Ward's best plays are on simple things over the middle like that that we know he does well. So until the game got out of reach and the Titans kind of had to alter their plan, I did like what Mike McCoy was doing from an offensive schematic perspective. And I think it does, I feel a little, I feel more encouraged today that this team might be able to win some football games down the stretch than I did
Starting point is 00:12:07 with Brian Callahan coming in. You know, that was my takeaway, Brad. Well, one quick thing to add, when you're in pursuit, when you're in chase mode because you're never in the league because you don't have control of the ballgame, that dictates what you're able to call. If you look at that scoreboard and you say, man, I'm down 10 points. I'm down a couple of touchdowns that automatically just says, hey, look, I can't do certain things because we have to get back in this ball game. We have to try and put points on the board. And sometimes that manic approach to getting back in the ball game, it's not consistent. you know what I mean think about if this team were to play with that 10 to 3 lead for most of the game what the play calling would look like right because there be it's completely different than damn I need to put points on the board these things getting out of control now they're up by 17 now they're up by whatever and your and your play calling is dictated by what you're seeing on the scoreboard because you've got to try and get back in the ball game and unfortunately we haven't seen a consistent situation where the Titans have been in control of the game to make the game planning look more effective to what they like to do, right?
Starting point is 00:13:10 So I think that when you look at just them not have any ability to get out to fast starts, them not being able to consistently win, you know, those one-on-ones or win at the line of scrimmage to allow them to dictate the pace and dictate what they call, it makes the offense look funky. Is that your guys is, or maybe I'll give you guys the floor to have your official tighten down for this week. Because as I said, that was something I said earlier Bhop is the consistency over the four quarter. But what would you guys say as a Titan down this week if you had one? You know, I mean, when you look at it, the wheel started falling off like most games do, you know, after they had that lead. And, you know, after Joey Sly's second field goal in the second quarter, the Titans never scored again.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know, so I think that, you know, when you look at what the Patriots did in the very beginning, they just ran the ball three, four, five straight times, I think it was. Embarrassing. But I will say they only gave up three points. You know, after all of that, they get into the red zone, they didn't give up a touchdown, but they did seem like they were just. like bend but not breaking and ultimately they slowed it down but they just seem to be vulnerable with the line of scrimmings i don't know how much better that's going to get if geoffrey's not healthy you know i mean but at the end of the day you know they just got it you know one of the things i hate the most is when the uh the media on the sidelines stops the coach you know
Starting point is 00:14:26 going into half and asking them questions did you guys catch mike mccoy's response i mean it was the it was the it was the most eloquent and funny response ever he said yada yada yada He literally said that. He's like, we got to do this, we got to do that, yada, yada. And then, of course, you let him go because there was nothing else that he was going to say in that instance. Like, you know, oh, you just gave hope a touchdown to him to half. What do you think about that? I mean, you think I think about that.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You know what I mean? So the obvious question gets asked. And, of course, he just wasn't having any of it. You know, so I just, I just, you know, I don't know. I just want to see them do better when I know that they can. Tyler. Yeah. Well, I think my tighten down was at the end of that game,
Starting point is 00:15:05 I was just looking out at the players on the field and you have Jihad Ward and Jalen Armar Davis and Dary Biggs and Cody Barton and Tyler Lockett and Van Jefferson and I'm just like and this team is bad man like this is this is bad you know they just don't have
Starting point is 00:15:30 good enough players out there to compete with these teams for four quarters and then when they hurt themselves with turnovers and your quarterback has given the game away. You know, it's just impossible to win. So, like, the level of play that they would have to play at with some of the players that they have on the field after Sneed gets injured and there's no Calvin Ridley and now Simmons is out and it's like, boy, they just, like what Brad was talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:53 you need to kind of build around your stars and add depth around them to compliment them. But the Titans just simply don't have any stars out on the field and I'm like, how do I expect them to win this game with what they're going at? So I guess my overall tighten down is more of just a, man, they're so far away from having what they need at so many places. It's just, you know, it's unfortunate, I guess. For it being October, I'll say it's spooky, you know, like they're going to have to hit so, like Borgonzi's going to have to literally go on a heater like John Robinson did from 2016 to 2019 to find a way to turn this around. Real quick, there are two instances that I thought were kind of a microcosm with a titan. are. I listened to Drake May's post-game press conference, and he was talking about
Starting point is 00:16:39 Mike Vrable coming back to Nashville and what that meant to him quietly, because he wasn't going to say it publicly. And he mentioned the amount of success that Mike Vrable had here. And then to double down on that, did you guys hear the chance for Vrable at the end of the game? Yeah. That was a stadium that was basically saluting or celebrating a dude that, you know, did something with this franchise that just hadn't been done consistently. Now, of course, we know it didn't end well, six and 11 that might get you fired
Starting point is 00:17:11 if you had two back-to-back sub-500 seasons. But I think that he laid a foundation. And when you look at those guys that celebrated him in the locker room, after he set all of this stuff post-game, they knew what that meant to him. And they rallied around him.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And they play well in spite of a lot of situations because they're galvanized because of the culture that might Mike Brable brings with him wherever he goes. So it was just an unfortunate situation where, you know, the first at the game after we fire Brian Callahan, well, we didn't fire my empire. After Brian Callahan inspired, you play the coach that was the last coach to take this team to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And he slowly but surely suffocated the team and, you know, just made sport of us. And that's the way it was going to work out. I think we talked about that last week going into this game, that all the pressure was on him. Well, guess what? His team responded. Our team didn't. And for a guy that has more familiarity in the spaces in that stadium than most of the coaches do,
Starting point is 00:18:09 it was just a very telling story. Mike Vrable upgrades to somebody hotter after leaving his ex. That's kind of the takeaway I have there. All right, coming up on the other side of the break, we're going to talk about Cam Ward, what we liked from Cam, and maybe some of the concerns we have after a couple turnovers this week. Stay with us on the Titan Squatch. I'm Cody Roark.
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Starting point is 00:19:54 if i got that math correctly outside of that though um 10 of 11 to start, great first half, but then there was the big fumble that led to the touchdown. And I looked up his numbers back in college because I know that was an issue, at least when I covered him at Washington State, about being maybe a little too lackadaisical with the football, 34 fumbles over his five years of college career, 17 of those lost fumbles. So I guess my question to you guys is he said it was simple as I got to hold on to the ball tighter. But is it as simple as that, considering this isn't necessarily. a new issue for Cam?
Starting point is 00:20:31 No, it's not as simple as that. Go ahead, Brad. Well, I was just going to say real quick, how many times did you see that happen through the course of this season? Two or three. Going back and it just slipping out of his hand. I haven't seen it in that for one team.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So that's an anomaly that's basically his issue. You know what I mean? Whether it's squeezing the football, whether it's doing whatever the mechanics would allow you to do to have better control of the football. I mean, that's something that he needs to work on. But I will say that, you know, it's a 50-50 thing when you talk about explosive plays, when you talk about running the offense.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Because while Cam does have the ability we've seen it in certain instances, I mean, he's got to have the guys around him that can also lift him up. How many times do we see a quarterback get lifted up by his receivers, by making great catches, by making themselves available, by doing the things that allow him to be special? So it's not just Cam and his armability. It's a combination of everything. It's the guys that he's throwing to. And I will say, going back to like Will Levis, we'll have 12.
Starting point is 00:21:28 picks and 10 fumbles in 12 starts as a rookie you know four picks and and uh seven fumbles in nine starts as a sophomore you know so we saw the issues there but some of that was just the gamble you know i mean not just the frivolous silly stuff i mean it doesn't get any worse than fumbling the football into the end zone basically where a guy can just basically put a touchdown on the board before so and then just kind of blowing the game out of way now i will also say that can's been sacked more than anybody in the national football league by eight you know he's been sacked 30 times Drake May is the next guy below him that's been sacked 22 times. Justin Fields 22 times.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Jaylen Hertz 21 times. But at the end of the day, him running sometimes under duress, him creating pressure for himself sometimes, not being able to get the football out of his hands. And then running backwards, if you're going to run the down football, at least get north and south. You know what I mean? Stop running south and east and west.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Let's see you use that skill set to gain positive yards versus escaping the pass rush. So at the end of the day, it is a concern because he's the one that has the football in his hands and supposed to do the things with it that make this offense successful. And sometimes he's been a liability. Well, it's a pattern now. He's done this two or three times this year already, just drop the ball like that. And even, you know, when he gets contacted in the pocket, he has a tendency to fumble the football as well. So it's not even just these phantom, I'm dropping the ball.
Starting point is 00:22:49 It's literally any time he's in the pocket, he just does not have the focus right now to hold on to the football. just not something that he's locked in on doing. And I think my biggest issue with Cam Ward through the entire season is his lack of focus on the small details. Like, he is just a lackadaisical player. His footwork is very lazy. Those short throws where he's trying to throw
Starting point is 00:23:14 a little wide receiver screens and stuff, he's so laxadaisical with his arm mechanics and everything. He thinks he can just flip it out there like it's college again. And maybe when you were at Incernate Ward, you could do that. You're at Washington State, you could do that. And even at Miami, he could get away with some of stuff like that. But you've got to be more on your P's and Q's and cross your T's and dot your eyes at the NFL level.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You're not going to be able to get away with it. And I think bigger than a problem with me with the fumbling is the inaccuracy. He throws one way behind Elic Io Manor in the first quarter on a third down that should be easy pitch and catch completion for a first down. He throws one way behind Chig O'Konkwell. And the people do the, it hit his hands. He should have literally Chig is right. running one direction and the ball is totally behind him and he tries to
Starting point is 00:23:59 Neo in the Matrix turn around in the middle and his fingertips barely touch it and it's an interception. That is 100% on Cam. Chickicconquo should not catch that football. The one I talked about earlier where they fake the wide receiver screen after Chim Dike and tried to hit the vertical route down the sideline to Gunnar Helm. Cam Ward looks like Fat Joe, lean back. He's like leaning back like he's driving a car. You know, like he's Denzel in training day. He's all the way leaned back.
Starting point is 00:24:25 throwing that ball and it sails way over Gunner Helms' head and I had people arguing with me oh he was throwing that away no he wasn't throwing it away he was just so leaned back on his back foot with bad posture when he was throwing the football that he sailed it way over so he just doesn't that and you heard during the broadcast that Mike McCoy's big feet feet feet he keeps yelling feet at him when he walks by him because cam is he has great talent great arm talent great knack for making plays and all of that but at the end of the day if you're not not on your P's and Q's and the simple details, you're not going to be able to execute the hard stuff
Starting point is 00:25:00 when there's a guy in your face and you're trying to make a miss and things like that. So I just think Cam needs to recognize that he can't get away with the laxadaisical play and the nonchalant vibe that he has survived with so far. He's got to clean it up. He's got to take every single rep and every single throw and really lock in and focus on what he's supposed to do
Starting point is 00:25:21 because all of his big mistakes, whether it's the inaccuracy, It's the risky throws, whether it's fumbling the football. To me, it all comes down to, he's just not quite focused enough in the moment. So the focus level is really what I'm looking for. And I think that'll fix a lot of the problems. Like, you just got to be more locked in than you were any other level. Brad, you're muted.
Starting point is 00:25:46 We're blaming the cat on that one, B. The cat hit the mute button. Those devilish creatures, man. They'll get you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he's got little hands You know Maybe the size of the NFL football
Starting point is 00:25:59 Even though it's a happening He does have small hands though Brad That's not a joke He does have If you go by measurements of NFL quarterbacks He does have really small hands But there are guys like Joe Burrow Has small hands and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:26:10 And he's still a good quarterback So it's not a pre you know Something that'll preclude him for being good But you are correct He does have small hands for an NFL quarterback That's true You know what I was thinking about When I was watching that game fellas
Starting point is 00:26:22 is just it reinforced how important this coaching hire is going to be for the Tennessee Titans because you look at a guy like Drake May, right, who struggled at times last year. Came on better at the end of last season, but now he's got a coach and Mike Brable in a stable situation and he's slinging it with the best of him. And I think it's no more exemplified than there was that fourth and one play in the red zone. And they let Drake May, they had the trust in him to make a play. Granted, the throw was a little bit behind him, but the receiver, I think it was to Mario Douglas didn't make an incredible catch, but the idea that he has, the coaching staff
Starting point is 00:26:56 and May is at a point where there is confidence for him to go in that situation, there's not that consistent confidence, at least right now, from Cam Ward's perspective. Well, also think about this real quick, 21 of 23. Yeah, almost perfect. The dude had two incompletions. He had two incompletions in 60 minutes. There's a combination of things. First off, I didn't see many contested catches that he was throwing to.
Starting point is 00:27:19 In other words, guys were open. Them getting themselves open, making tremendous catches for him, and him throwing an accurate enough ball for him to go to 21 or 23. That's an exceptional performance. You know what I mean? So we've got to give credit where credit is due. Where Drake May was confident, he was slinging the bean. They were putting him in situations where, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:38 the offense were able to make plays and taking advantage of coverage. You know what I mean? So at the end of the day, you know, we can talk, we can compare the two quarterbacks, but he did, I mean, it's not like Cam Ward's numbers were bad. I mean, what would you say, Tyler, 75% completion? or something like that. Yeah. But I don't know what 23 of 21 or 23 is.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I know that's in the 80s. You know what I mean? And that's a pretty good performance I have to deal with for anybody, any defense. Tyler, go ahead. You mentioned Drake May. I wanted to bring that back up. Credit to Paul Kaharski doesn't get a lot of credit for many people,
Starting point is 00:28:11 but I'll give him credit for this one. He made the comparison. Drake May through his first seven starts last year, eerily similar to Cam Ward. He had seven interceptions, five, fun, The team was 2 and 5, 66% completion percentage, which is a little better than what Cam Ward's is. But, you know, the team was bad. It was ugly.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He had a ton of turnovers. I mean, he had more interceptions than Cam Ward does, more turnovers than Cam Ward does through his first seven games. So I think it's fair to look at Drake May and be like, you know, he is an example of, hey, it can be ugly early on and you could have a talented quarterback go through some turnover issues. but like Brad said, get the head coaching higher right, get somebody who's going to get the best out of this guy and you could clearly see the talent that's there and what they can turn them into.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So I think if you're a Titans fan looking for some optimism, look no further than the guy that you saw on the opposite side of the field this weekend with Drake May who had turnover problems and his team wasn't winning in his rookie year, but he had talent, you saw the talent, and he got the coaching hire right, and now they're up and running and doing things. If you're a Titans fan, you've got to look at the Patriot situation
Starting point is 00:29:21 and hope that that could potentially be you next year if things go right now. Now, you know, with the doomsday mindset that the Titans fan base has right now, I doubt anybody out there will be sold by me on that. But, hey, it's possible. You know, it's at least, you're telling me there's a chance. Cam Ward, as Brad mentioned, started 10 of 11. The Titans had the lead for a majority of that half. And things started off pretty well.
Starting point is 00:29:43 They got him moving out of the pocket. There was that early play to Gunner Helm, the first play of the game, which got him moving the pocket across the sideline and doing something that Cam Ward does best. But my question to you guys is, how can you get that, how can you get that same consistency that we saw from that first quarter, particularly over the course of four quarters? You know, honestly think about it. Like I said earlier, in that first quarter, they weren't behind in the ballgame. In that first quarter, they were right there, you know, having slowed down the onset of punching you in the mouth. from Vrabble's offense to getting off the field,
Starting point is 00:30:20 giving the ball to Cam, allowing him to do some things with it, be very efficient within those first 11 attempts. And that was basically them having control of the game, of what they were calling, and just trying to mix in some runs with Pollard and Spears. You know what I mean? So I think at the end of the day, while we like to see Cam, you know, throw the football,
Starting point is 00:30:41 you've got to put them in those situations that allow manageable down in distances. In other words, running the football is what gets you, second and five. You're running the footballs gets you into third and one situations where you can run play action where Cam can use his legs versus having to drop back and have a third and 10 that he needs to complete that he has to be almost pinpoint accurate to make it happen. If we create less of those situations and more manageable situations, then he gains the more confidence that it takes. In other words, I don't see this being the Cam Ward that's going to be running after Big Jeff
Starting point is 00:31:13 talking smack like he was during the preseason. I don't think that he's, I don't think that He's that guy right now because he's looking at all the things that are difficult for him, and it's hard for him to kind of gain and say, hey, look, I'm in control of what's going on here. Follow me. Because when you're a part of the problem, it's hard to kind of have that confidence in this. Unless you just have an exceptional personality that's able to blot out everything, yourself included. 75 rushing yards. 75 rushing yards a game right now for this football team.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Think about this. 71 in week one, 109 against the Rams. 86, 82, 78, 65, 39, 39 rushing yards against the New England Patriots. And the Patriots run defense is really, really good, but 39, you know, like, how is that supporting a rookie quarterback? Go find me a rookie quarterback that had a great rookie season when his team was rushing for 75 yards a game. Like, you're right, Brad, if they don't find a way to get some more success on the ground, It doesn't really matter what happens with Cam Ward.
Starting point is 00:32:17 He's going to be in such disadvantageous situations consistently that they're just going to have no shot at all. And even if they were to get a lead, even if they were to have a lead in the second half, how are they going to sold it away if they aren't able to run the football? How are they going to keep time off the clock? How are they going to keep the defense fresh? There are so many dominoes that fall. Brad, you made the point at the beginning of the show
Starting point is 00:32:37 and it's a point that I echo all the time. At its core, football is a game about moving another man against his will. That is what the game is. Can you line up across another man and move him where you want him to go against his will? Can you do that? That is the game of football at its core. That is what we love.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Move that man. And the Titans can't do it. They simply cannot do it right now and if they don't run the football better, it's not just about Cam Ward and how it affects Cam Ward. It's the entire football team and the trickle-down effect that's created by not being able to do the most fundamental part of the sport itself.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So, right now, you know, if you wanted to increase hope that they could win, the only way that they can do it is by running the football better and I think it'll be no coincidence that the game that they run the football best and when Tony Pollard has a breakout performance
Starting point is 00:33:29 and Tage Spears complements him and Cam Ward gets out of the pocket and gets a couple first downs with his legs, the Titans will go over 120 rushing yards and it'll be their first win in the season and it won't be a mystery why. like they have to run the football better they have to yeah you know the hardest thing to do in the NFL is pass block it's the hardest thing moving backwards to stopping another grown
Starting point is 00:33:51 man from getting from point A to point B to get your course the hardest thing and when you spend most of your time doing that how much success can you have you know what I mean so I know at the end of the day you know no one wants to hear three yards in a cloud of dust but give me three yards in a cloud of dust because guess what three times three is nine only one more yard to convert first down I'll take that all day long in manageable down and distances. I keep saying that because what is this game about? This game is about converting. It's about continuing drives.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's about winning time of possession. And the only way that you do that is to stay on the football field. I was about because I can't believe that. Anyway, the point being, you can't do that from third and double digits. It's hard. It's super hard. And I'm not taking a shot to this offensive line, but they're not the best equipped past blocking team. In other words, pass blocking more comes down more than just me blocking that guy from me, across from me.
Starting point is 00:34:42 A lot of it is understanding blitzes, stunts, you know, all the things that these guys are doing. You're not just blocking one person. You know, I saw a couple of instances where, you know, Kevin and JC were on different levels, getting mixed up and not taking the right guy. Next thing you know, somebody comes through Scott Free and then puts more pressure on the quarterback. And next thing you know, you're in a longer down in distance than you were before the previous down. So they need to be able to run the football to stay out of those ugly situations. as unfortunate as that actually is. It really is complimentary football.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I know that people get annoyed by that and that seems simplistic, but it's all about how everything, football is the ultimate team game and everything complements everything else. So it's like, if you're not going to run the football, then like you said, the domino effect begins. Now you're in third and long, and the Titans have had the highest average of yards to gain on third down of any team in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I mean, it's eight plus yards. is their average that they need on third down and that's never going to be you know, it's like in the NBA with the NBA starting a night figure I'd throw an NBA reference in here as me and Julian would say go Lakers baby but in the NBA they don't just track
Starting point is 00:35:51 your three point percentage like how many threes you make they track how good are you in the corners when it should be easier because it's the shortest one how good are you on wide open shots compared to when there's a guy within one to two feet contesting you like there are so many different facets to it and
Starting point is 00:36:06 And in football, it's not just, you know, hey, how good are you throwing the ball? Third downs are different. You have a way higher success rate of converting on third and three, third and four, third and five. Then you do third and eight, third and nine, third and ten. Like, not all third downs are equal. So we look at their third down conversion percentage, and it's awful. But most of those are the hardest possible third downs that you can have. And when you're not running the football, you get into more third and long situations.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It's harder on your offensive line. It's harder on your young quarterback. It just makes it on max difficulty for the offense. So the most fundamental thing about the sport running the football, they don't do well. And until they fix that, they're going to continue to struggle on offense, especially as the game continues.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And if the Titans already didn't have enough problems, that injury list is getting mighty long for the Tennessee Titans. And we'll talk about those concerns coming up on the other side of the break here in the Titans Squad show. Keep it here. All right, Mazda Crafts Cars cars. for those who do more than simply move. Mazda delivers competence with every ride
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Starting point is 00:37:30 Mazda, move and be moved. All right, fellas, so that Titans injury list is getting mighty long. The team training staff is going to have a busy week this week. Jeffrey Simmons, obviously leaving the game on Sunday with a hamstring injury, Legerius Sneed with a quad injury, no Calvin Ridley again with that hamstring, and of course a bunch of other guys with bumps and bruises along the way. You know, you always talk about, go back to that quote that Jeff Simmons says, the best players need to play better.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Well, a lot of the best players are out. And so it's a next man up mentality right now for the Titans. How concerning is this for this team? Because the margin of error for this team is already so razor thin. And you have a bunch of key players that are status up in the air or been missing time already. Zero. It's not very concerning.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Let me just say that because the team's not good anyway. So like it would be concerning if the team was good. You know, it's like they're not winning games with all these players that are injured anyway, and they're not relatively close either. It's not like they've been close. The Titans point differential this year. The Titans have less than half of the amount of points that their opponents have scored.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I mean, they've been doubled up in these games through the first seven weeks. So it's like, if the Titans were a competitive football team, yeah, some of these players might be the difference between a win and a loss, but Jeffrey Simmons has played like the defensive player of the year through seven, six and a half weeks. And it really hasn't matter. You know, they haven't even been close in a lot of these games other than Arizona and Denver.
Starting point is 00:39:04 So it's like, I hate to be so crass, but it's not that big of a concern to me because they're not very good. And quite honestly, I want to see more young players anyway. Like, a lot of these players, Legerius Sneed probably not going to be here after the year. If he re-agravated the quad injury that had him out all year last year, you know what he's going to do. He's going to sit. He's not going to play. I mean, what veteran play? I mean, Tyler Lockett just went and asked for his release because he doesn't want to be a part.
Starting point is 00:39:30 of this football team. You think a guy like Legerius Sneed is going to rush back to play for this team when he knows that he's probably going to get cut in the all season and get to go somewhere else and choose and be healthy and play in a better organization again. Like at some point in time this is the problem with filling your team with mercenaries is they aren't bought into the team like a guy that you drafted. You know what I mean? And that's why the motto now is draft, develop, retain. And Mike Morgonzi even said guys who are drafted by the team, resigned by the team, developed by the team, they just care more about the team than guys who you bring in from the outside.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It's just a reality, you know what I mean? So I don't think it matters all that much. I mean, you want to see good football. You want to see them have a chance to win. But we know the team's not very good. We know they're not going to win a lot of games. And I want to see some younger players. So like, you know, let's get more Kevin Winston out there.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Quadre Diggs is running in quick sand. Ammoni Hooker has played the worst football of his entire career. I don't know what happened to him. He's falling off a cliff. worse safety. Xavier Woods is slow and slowing down. Cody Barton is so slow, can't get off a block. He's a sieve out there. Let's see some James Williams. You know what I mean? Like, I'm to the point where let's play Marcus Harris instead of Daryl Baker Jr. Let's see if the young cornerback can turn it. And maybe he could be your next
Starting point is 00:40:45 Jarvis Brownlee Jr. and make that not feel so bad as Jarvis Brownley Jr. has literally been the best player on the Jets since we traded him over there to him. So it's like, let's just see these young players. You know, let's see if Tavondra, sweat can assume a bigger role on the defensive line and step in for Jeffrey Simmons and make an impact. Let's just see what he looks like when he's the big dog on the defensive line. Like I, you know, Gunner Helm, let's trade Chigacanquo out of here and let Gunner Helm play the entire game as tight end one. Let's do that. You know, I'm just, I'm to the point where I don't think they're going to win a lot of games. So as long as the young guys aren't
Starting point is 00:41:21 injured and we get to continue to see these young guys who will be a part of this team in the next two or three years, that's all I really care about. Like, you know, Calvin Ridley can be out. Sure, whatever, trade him. Let's see some Xavier Restrepa. Let's see more Chim D.K. Let's see more Elico Manor. I'm to the point where I'm not really that concerned about wins.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I just want to see how these young guys progress and people who can be a part of this football team going forward. Like, let's trade Kevin Zitler out of here and see if Jackson Slater can play. Why not? Why not? How much worse can it get at this point is where I'm at? So the injuries suck, and it definitely is going to decrease their chances of winning. But their chances of winning weren't that high anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So I'm not going to act like it's, you know, something that'll kill the season when the season's already dead. Yeah, you know, injuries do suck, but guess what? There's as much a part of the game as anything else. Exactly. But what injuries do is create opportunity. Yes. It gets to show the medal of a team. What did you do between rounds two and four?
Starting point is 00:42:19 You have to create depth. Yeah. But thing is, backups, they haven't been beat down with the lack of success. that this team has experienced. You know, somebody's got to be able to take advantage and get discovered. You know, it's funny thing is you put out some names that you just threw out there, Tyler. Here's some names that I threw on my list. Marcus Harris, Calvin Winston, Jehad Ward, Van Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Some of those you already said. But, you know, the point is they should be a little bit excited about getting on the football field. If you stood on the sideline and watched all this stuff happen, all of a sudden, someone says, hey, 72, get in there. I mean, you were thinking, oh, God, this, here we go. you're like, okay, I get to go in there and show you what I can actually do. That's the difference that you talk about when you're talking about injuries. And, you know, they happen every single season.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And it's just an ability for somebody to step up and show them some. I mean, look at Mac Jones, for goodness sake. Rock Purdy's on the sideline. And this dude here has been diamond for this team for the San Francisco 49ers. So it's an opportunity for when you lose somebody that is very impactful and very important to what you're doing, helping create that structure. you've got to be able to step up in those moments and make something happen. It's the plight of the backup.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You know what I mean? You're standing there one minute, sipping Gatorade next to you know, the guy goes down in front of you and you're on the football field. Are you ready for those moments? Have they found the right guys to be able to take advantage of that? They'll also tell you what you do through the draft. Because the draft is more than just the first round, right? The draft is more than just the dude that everybody's talking about through the first 32 picks.
Starting point is 00:43:46 After that, we get to see how you're actually building this team because those guys that you've drafted after that, you know, they're going to actually eventually sometimes see the football field. And let me say this real quick. Some of our best teams that we had in franchise history were created because guys stuck around. And maybe they stuck around because they didn't want to be traded or didn't want to move around or whatever else. But the culture was already established because dudes had been in that locker room and on that roster for a number of years.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So that way when new dudes come in, we weren't expecting. them to tell us what to do. We're not expecting them to start creating and changing things. Hey, look, this is the way we do things. Get in line with us. And this is the culture that we've established. We don't plan, why can you do that? Because guys have been around long enough. Look at Jeffrey Simmons. Jeffrey's been on this roster for seven years. You think some of the DeLyman is going to come in here and all of a sudden start telling him what to do? It don't work that way. You know, so at the end of the day, when you've got guys that have been on this roster long enough to have that kind of emotional connection to this team and care about it that much
Starting point is 00:44:50 because it's their culture, then anybody that comes in is just supposed to then get in line with what has already been established. And so trying to establish you because you're some name coming from someplace else. That very rarely happens, even for big names. I think a mentality thing here is you want players, like a lot of these veteran guys are disappointed
Starting point is 00:45:09 because the team's not good. But a lot of these young guys are excited just to play. And I think they need more guys out there that aren't disappointed by the outcome of the season and that are just excited to get the opportunity to play. And I think that that general attitude change could help them in some big situations and maybe play some better football. Just simply, I'm not out here disappointed.
Starting point is 00:45:32 We aren't good. I'm out here so excited I finally get to play. I think that is another big reason why we need to see more young guys. And I think the Tyler Lockett release and we might start seeing some trade action here today, tomorrow next week before the deadline, I think that'll help fix that person. problem a little bit too. Yeah, Tyler Lockett saw Jim go for 70 yards and basically said, check please. Let me get out of here. Okay, on the other side of the break, we're going to take your questions, comments, concerns, whatever you may have in our Titans Talk segment.
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Starting point is 00:46:44 app today and get started. All right, fellas, we had some questions from earlier in the chat right now. Somebody actually said that they met a friend of your dad, Tyler, in Baton Rouge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, my dad's friend, yep, 100%. Tyler's like Pipple. He's Mr. Worldwide out there. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Let's see what we got here. There is a couple questions that we had in the chat or even a concern. This is what they think for the draft order right now from Hub 284. I think we should go edge wire receiver running back in that order. I know it's early to be talking about draft, but we mentioned draft develop, retain is the motto of this team right now. If you're looking at it ahead,
Starting point is 00:47:34 what are some of the big issues and concerns that you see now that we have a sample size for the Titans? Well, let me just say this. I'm not trying to hate on your Hub 284. Thank you for the comment. But you cannot, you cannot think like that. What if you get to the second round and there's only a fifth round wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Are you going to take a fifth round wide receiver in the second round because you think they need to go edge wide receiver running back? What if you get to the third round and there's nothing but undrafted free agent talent level running backs left? Are you going to force a running back into the third round even though they're a seventh rounder because you think you need to go running back? Like you can't do that. You don't know that there's going to be an edge that makes sense with your first pick,
Starting point is 00:48:12 a wide receiver good enough for your second pick, a running back good. You got to play the board. You know, you can't just go in. saying we're taking this, this, this, and this. You've got to play the board and play the value. So I'm not disagreeing that edge, wide receiver, and running back are big needs. I think edge and wide receiver are probably the two
Starting point is 00:48:30 biggest needs on the team. And I think running back is a much bigger need than maybe people realize right now. Like, I don't think Tony Pollard's going to be on this team next year. And we already know that Taji Spears cannot be relied on to stay healthy. So, like, I don't disagree with those as major needs and it would be nice if they could get it to go that way. But you can't go into a draft saying,
Starting point is 00:48:48 round one, we take this, round two, we take this, round three, we take this, because you simply don't know that there are going to be guys worth those picks at those positions in those spots. So I'm not saying you're wrong for looking at those spots, but you simply can't go into a draft saying this round we take this, this round we take this, because you've got to play the board more than that. It's not that cut and dry. I'd say you've got to develop up front first.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You know, even though you're talking about edge rushers, which I think are super important being able to put pressure on the opposing team's quarterback because if you give any quarterback time in this national football league, they're going to pick you apart. And if you don't have guys that actually are game planned for, you know, it's going to be easy for them to just do those things that they've been doing to make them these great quarterbacks, right? So at the end of the day, an edge rusher is super important, but protecting our quarterback is probably more important. And I'm not talking about just, you know, haphazily maybe spending some money on a dude that, you know, was okay for another
Starting point is 00:49:43 the team. I'm talking about if you're going to spend money on a free agent, spend the damn money on a free agent and get somebody that's playing at the top of this game that everybody wants, but you outbid everybody else and you've got what you paid for, right? But then you've also got to develop your roster by getting younger players that you know are going to be around here for at least four years through a rookie contract, make them better than they were in college, and now you've got the foundation that this team needs to allow the offense to be functional. Wide receivers, I'm not going to take shots of the wide receiver, but at the end of the day, man, you're supposed to be able to catch the damn football, right?
Starting point is 00:50:14 But I've got to also have a quarterback that can throw it to you and allow you to have that opportunity to catch it. And if a quarterback is under duress because he doesn't have a pocket to be able to work with or the balance of a run game because this team can basically stay on the field for long periods of time and basically wear down the defense, at the end of the day, you've got to win up front on both sides of the football. So I will put O line in front of edge, then maybe edge and then throw your skill position in there, whatever you want, whether it's a running back or wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:50:39 It doesn't matter. B. Hop, I had a question for you about the O-line. You know, we've seen J.C. Latham back for two straight weeks. What have you assessed from his play so far? And Tyler, you could hop in also as well. Because let me post something to you because I was talking about this with Cory Curtis, my sports director of her news too. Is there a chance that he could be a guard next year?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Well, I put it this way. They need to find a spot for him and leave him there. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. It's like this right tackle. It's not really that hard when you think about just, switching up schematically, left side pass blocking, right side pass blocking. Left side run blocking, right side run blocking. At the end of the day, it's about motor, your muscle memory
Starting point is 00:51:20 and motor skills and just doing it consistently, right? But that right side has just shown to be problematic for, for JC so far. I thought that, you know, there were instances early on where he looked really good, but then there's sometimes where he reverts back to someone that's struggling. You know what I mean? But everybody's taking their chance, their shots up front, you know, with that moniker you know like hey man this guy's playing really good one minute and next thing you he's struggling the next minute so at the end of the day i just want him to find his home and stay there they're not moving peter scuronsky all over the place right that's probably why he's playing at at you know some of the best football that he's ever played and by position in the national
Starting point is 00:51:58 football league i mean i think i don't doubt that peter scuransky it makes the pro bowl this year because of just how consistent he's playing you know and that's despite the guys around him you know I mean. So at the end of the day, J.C. continues to improve. And you also got to remember, he's just going into his second season. You know, it's just his second year in national football league. So it's not like he's going to look like some polished eight-year veteran. He's still learning. He's still growing. But it doesn't help him at all when you got him playing a completely different position than he was last year. Yeah, I'm just not ready to panic about J.C. Latham. This conversation, move him to guard, blah, lo, like,
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'm not saying that that's not something that could potentially happen eventually. but I'm saying it's not right to say it now. It's like the Cam Ward bust. Every cams a button. Like, you can't say that that won't be the case. Like, who knows what happens in the future, but you can't say that right now. So I think that a lot of things when the team is bad,
Starting point is 00:52:53 it's very annoying for me as someone, I'm online a lot. And I try to engage a lot and go back and forth with people and answer comments and do all that. But like times like these, I don't even want to go online and engage because people are so angry. they're just like,
Starting point is 00:53:09 you know, like foaming at the mouth. And everything is, you know, it's like my dog when he's frustrated. He's barking at this, barking at that. There's nobody even there. What are you barking at? You know, like, everybody just wants to hate on everything. Cam is a bust.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Move J.C. Latham. You know, take Amy Adams drunk and tar and feather in the streets. Like, I want her to answer questions so we could throw tomatoes. Like, everybody's just so mad they want people to pay and they want changes and they want to see people. lose jobs and move so that their anger can feel expressed, you know? And I'm just like, can we just take a deep breath here? The team's not good.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I'm mad about it too. It sucks. But like, we don't need to call cam a bust or move J.C. Latham from right tackle and all this. Like, let's just take a deep breath here. Let the rest of the season play out and reassess how everybody did after a full season. It's like what people do when we talk about head coaching candidates. Bill's lost.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Joe Brady sucks. I don't want him as the coach anymore. Steelers win. Aaron Rogers throws four touchdowns or whatever. Oh, Arthur Smith, let's get him back. Steelers lose. Oh, Arthur Smith is a bum. People just go week to week so much with how they feel about stuff. And I just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You know, I just cannot do it. Let's wait a minute. Let's watch Cam Ward's rookie year and then see what patterns pop up. Let's let J.C. Latham get back healthy. Get back into the system here and see how he does throughout the season. It's just some of this stuff is so knee-jerk and so quick And so, ha, the team's bad. I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He sucks. He's moving. We need this, that. It's just like, everybody take a deep breath, man. Yeah, but if you think about it, everybody goes through their struggles. And at the end of the day, either you get cut or you get fired. It's just what happens. Look at Sam Darnold leading the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He sucked as a jet. Now, he looks awesome. Look at Baker Mayfield. He was the first pick of that. So at the end of the day. Wake up, people. it's what happens. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Sometimes you go through these troughs of crap and you just got to find a way through it and then you find that right chemistry that works with wherever you're at and you make something good of it. You know, so at the end of the day, we're always going to call for somebody's job.
Starting point is 00:55:22 When you think about that, they were chanting for Mike Brable at the end of the game. Well, half of them people that understand is chanting for him were the ones that were calling for his butt to get fired. Chant for him to get fired, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 So it happens like that. And you look at some court. Hell, Peyton Manning went one and 15 his first year as a cold. You know what I mean? So at the end of the day, there's greatness that can be had in there. It's just finding the right set of circumstances, finding the right support group, just finding the right, you know, situation.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And then you can also show your potential and be good at some things. So at the end of the day, some of the best players that we're talking about in National Football League right now have had their struggles. Hell, look at Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz, got benched, got replaced, and had to go to another college and do all this other stuff before he found a way to get back in a starting situation. and then ultimately find his way to the Eagles and make something of his career.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So it happens to everybody. And I think there's a lot of people out there who don't, football is hard and you fail in football. And that's why I love sports as a teacher for life and why I think playing sports is so important. I think there are a lot of people out there who simply haven't put themselves out there enough or haven't ever tried as hard as you got to try to play sports
Starting point is 00:56:33 and then failed. So they see other people fail and they're ready to take their pitchforks out. and skewer them, you know what I mean? But it's like some of those people I've never tried hard enough to fail at anything that mattered and they don't know what it's like to bounce back from failure. So I think there's a lot of that out there too
Starting point is 00:56:48 that's frustrating for me is, you know, a lot of people just don't understand how life works because they've never put themselves out there and took a risk on something. Well, we'll see if the Titans can bounce back from a tough week against the Patriots and a tough week in losing their head coach when they take on the Colts this week in Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:57:06 a tough test as the run. Defensive is struggled and Jonathan Taylor is on the horizon. The first place, Colts, by the way, who would have thought? All right, that will do it for the Titan Squad show. I'm Julian Minnensohn. That's a disgusted Tyler Rowland, and that's a two-time pro bowler, Brad Hopkins. Thank you guys for joining us. Make sure to like, comment, subscribe, all that fun stuff.
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