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Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Titans coordinators Brian Daboll and Gus Bradley meet the media for the first time this week. We break down the essential blueprints for offensive and defensive success in 2026. Plus, Titans legend Brad Hopkins joins us to share his unique perspective on the leaked logo -- having lived the history of both the Titans and the Oilers.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!TurboTaxFor a limited time, you can have your taxes done by a local TurboTax expert for just $150 — all in, if a TurboTax expert didn’t file for you last year. Just file by February 28.Visit http://TurboTax.com/local to book your appointment today.FanDuelUse your Profit Boost on an NBA future and get entered for your chance to win a trip to the NBA Finals.Play your game with FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started. IndeedListeners of this show get a $75 Sponsored Job Credit to help give your job the premium placement it deserves at http://Indeed.com/podcast.ZocdocStop putting off your doctor’s appointments and get the care you need.Go to http://Zocdoc.com/lockedonnfl to find and instantly book a top-rated doctortoday.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Talk about the Titans new logo, but what's actually going to help them win games on the field? We'll talk about that next. I'm Tyler Rowland, and it's time to spend some money, Titans fans. And I'm Brad Hopkins, and there's nothing more than I like going to the grocery store to make a great meal. We'll see what Amy's cooking up. Titan up. It's the Titans squad. Everything Tennessee Titans every week. Covering all the big hits and game-changing plays from the heart of me.

Music City, the way only the locked on podcast network can. Squad up. The Titan Squad Show starts now. And welcome to the Titan Squad Show. I'm your host, Julian Minnesone, joined by my friends, Tyler Rowland, Brad Hopkins, another episode for you. Make sure you like, comment, subscribe, all that fun stuff. We love hearing you.

And if you're live with us in the chat on YouTube, make sure you get your questions and comments will do our best to answer them at the end of the show. Got a jam pack show for you guys today, of course. The big talker on social media over the last few days have been the Leaked Titans logo. We are going to talk about that and get Tyler and Brad's perspective. Do they like it? Do they not like it? Maybe even some other suggestions on what it could look like.

But I want to start with what's going to happen on the actual field. Offensive coordinator Brian Daibel, defensive coordinator Gus Bradley, will be addressing the media for the first time this week since they've been hired by the Tennessee Titans. And it got me thinking, fellas, what would a path to success be for the offense and defensive side in 2020? 26. And I wanted to start with the offense because that also includes Cam Ward as well. So I'll start with Tyler on this one. Tyler, if the Titans offense is to turn things around in 26, it is because of what? I think it's because they got better players. I think that's key. Like they just need some better players. They need more weapons on the offensive side. Honestly,

I was just completing my Cam Ward film breakdown. I went through literally every single dropback that Cam Ward had this season. And I would say that, Cam Ward was responsible for eight of the 56 sacks like there were guys open. He didn't get the ball out quick enough. He abandons a clean pocket, drops his eyes, stuff like that. But I would say there are double that where there's just nobody open. People can't win against man. The scheme doesn't dial up the right route combination against the zone coverage that they face. They're either getting out coached or they're just getting out talented where there's nobody open. So you need to find some people who can get open, especially against,

man coverage. The Titans really struggled. I mean, they've struggled for years now, going back to 2022 with Todd Downing and then Tim Kelly and then Brian Callahan. Like they just don't have a guy who could consistently win against man coverage. And if you're not going to have a number one wide receiver, which I think it's going to be difficult to get at this point, if you're not going to have that, you need to at least have as many B level guys as you could possibly have so that you're not stuck with Mason Kinsey and James Prochet and don't shoot the messenger, Xavier Restrepo, out there. You know, they need to, if you can't get a number one,

which I think will be tough, you need to load up on as many twos and threes as you could possibly have to go with Chim D.K., Elico Manor. Hopefully they keep Calvin Ridley around if they don't find enough answers in free agency. Like, just load up on as many Bs and Cs as you can have so you don't have Ds out there running around

because with the offensive line being up and down, Cam Ward being a rookie, a lot of the problems with the sacks and the offense was there's nobody getting open. So they need to add some players here that can actually help the offense and hopefully combine that with internal improvement of the young guys, the new coaching staff, and that'll help them get some semblance of respectability on the offensive side of the ball

because you simply have to score more points and do better on offense. So my answer will be more statistical, guys. I went through the Titans offense ranked amongst the other 31. teams in National Football League. And what I came up with was actually kind of startling. Points per game, 16.7. You know what ranking that is? 30th. Points for the season, 284.

You know what rank that is? 30th. Rushing yards, 1,589 yards. You know what rank that is? 30th. Passing yards, 2824. You know what that is? 30th.

The Titans will rank 31st in total yards, 4,413 for the 2025 season. Can we get in the 20s? I mean, seriously, we're ranked in the 30s in most every statistical category. So it may be asking a bit much to be great at both sides of the ball, but let's pick one. You know what I mean?

How about let's dominate that side of the ball? I mean, the other side of the catch up during the season, but, you know, for offense, it's a simple solution. Win at the line streamage. Limit negative plays. That's tackles for loss. sacks, that's turnovers. But it's also hard to make mistakes, guys, when you know exactly what to do. I mean, I've been taking the time to learn the system as a team and individually. I mean,

fellas, how much work do we do for our shows and things that we do outside of business hours? Like at home, sitting on the couch, you're probably doing some work, you know? So, realistically, my goal for the Titans, or at least my path to success for them offensively, would be to just rank in the top 20. in total offense in 2026, okay? But then also ranking the top 10 in offense by 2027 when the stadium opens. And I think it's doable with Brian Dayball having an influence in this offense for them just to get into the 20s. Let's just say they rank in the top 20.

What a monumental leap from 31 to the 20s or even in the 19s and then keep that trajectory going. And then you're in the teens or at least in the 10. by the top 10 by 2027 when the stadium opens, that's exactly where you want to be. B. Hobb, it's so funny you mentioned 16 points per game because the running joke in our office at News 2 is, oh, how many points are the Titans going to score today?

Probably 17. That was like the default answer, it seems like, for the last few years. Tyler, I want to go back to something you said because you mentioned might be tough to get a number one wide receiver, specifically in free agency where there's not that. You know what I mean? George Pickens was franchise tag.

of course. But does that change your mind at all about who they pick at number four? Because I know you've been banging the drum for a defensive guy, maybe even Bain, Reese, Bailey. But are you starting to maybe have a change of heart given what you've seen on the tape? If you want a hot take, here's it. Free agency should not influence the draft whatsoever, in my opinion, especially at least not early. Your number one pick, your number two pick. You can't be like, oh, well, we grab this guy in free. Well, what if it doesn't work out?

You know what I mean? Like, you need to get the best. You shouldn't pass on a better player if they have Ruben Bain or David Bailey ranked higher on the board. You shouldn't pass on them because you got Trey Hendrickson and free agency. You know what I mean?

Like, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We shouldn't skip on better players to go out of our way to fill need. So I'm still, if Ruben Bain or Rvel Reese are there, I would take them. I'm not as high on David Bailey as everybody else, but I'll tell you this. What I think and what the tites

think they aren't always the same, right? You know, so I think the Titans will take David Bailey. I think the Titans would love to take David Bailey. I think that's who they would take at number four with all the guys available. I think they'd take David Bailey. So regardless of me being a little lower on Bailey than others, I think the Titans like him. And I don't think that they should pivot off of one of those guys that they like because, oh, we got somebody in free agency. Now we can focus more on wide receiver. Like always take the best, like need and value have to match up. I hate people who'd be like, best player available. Okay, well, the Titan shouldn't take a quarterback if that's the best player on their board. You know,

like, that doesn't make sense. So need and value have to match up a little bit. I would not go after wide receiver more than I would based on my board because of what I do in free agency. Like, you need to follow your board and take the best players that you can because even if they sign an edge rusher and free agency, it's still a big need long term. And as we saw with Seattle and Philadelphia and so many defenses throughout the past, you've got to have as much pass rush as you possibly can. So it wouldn't change my mind. But I can tell you this, I do get a little frustrated when people say, you know, Wondell Robinson, Alec Pierce, stuff like, and people say to me, those are wide receiver twos. The Titans need wide receiver one. Okay, well, I go to the

grocery store and I want to buy Wagu, but they don't have any. I'm still going to pick up the sirloy. I'm not going to go home and starve because they didn't have the Wagyu. available. You know, like that's what it sounds like to me. When people say stuff like that, like, okay, you want a wide receiver one. I agree. The Titans need a dominant alpha wide receiver like we had with AJ or like they had with Mason back in the day. But it's hard to find those guys. There's no guarantee that you're going to be able to find that. You're not going to trade for George Pickens. You know, you're not going to get lucky. And I don't think AJ Brown would come back here. Why wouldn't he want to go? He's not happy in Philadelphia.

Why wouldn't he go to a team that's closer to a Super Bowl than the Titans? So yes, the Titans need a number one wide receiver. But if that isn't available, that doesn't mean that I'm going to starve myself because I can't get what I want. No, okay, they don't have the steak anymore. I'm still going to order a burger and make sure that I eat. So let me go get Wondale Robinson. Let me get Alex Pierce or Alex Pierce. I don't like Romeo Dobbs as much from the Green Bay Packers. I'm like, is he really better than Calvin Ridley? Like, guys never had more than 800 receiving yards. Like, what are we really doing here? But shoot, if that's all you can do, again, I'd rather have as many and C's as I can, then have to deal with D's just out of spite.

You know, you don't want to cut off your nose to spite your face here. So I don't know how many analogies I can use, but the Titans need to add some help. But for your original question, no, I would not let free agency dictate who I pick at number four. I think that's short-sighted. We need an analogy counter on the side of the screen here for Tyler. B. Hop, do you want to respond to that? Of course. Teams should be built through free agency.

the draft should be depth. That traditionally is the way it goes. But what happens nowadays is that we're leaning on the talent so much that players or that coaches don't have to coach them and develop their roster. We expect them because we started paying these crazy salaries after the CBA to get out there making an immediate impact, even though they had the least amount of experience on the damn football field. That's wrong.

Put it this way. If you're on my roster and I'm coaching you over at least the four years that you're there as a rookie, I hope that I make you better versus. just going ahead and leaning on the fact that, yeah, he's a first round pick. You know, he's better than most that came out in that draft. How about you pick that guy in whatever round you get him? And by year four, he is a monster that's worth a second contract, right? Because you developed him.

And there's no way in the world a rookie could come in there and undo what you've already done because you're coaching them. See, when we started paying before the rookie salary cap and rookies were making crazy amounts of money, and I'm going to take advantage of that. That's exactly what I did. My rookie year was the first year was the first year of the collective bargaining agreement. Okay. And comparatively speaking to the free aid to the veterans around me, I was making more than they were.

Okay. Unproven. That's not right. When you're a freshman and you go to college, do you expect to beat out that senior that's been there for four years? No, you know why? Because in college, that kid from freshman to senior year has developed. But when we get these rookies in there, how much better are they getting by the time they get hit the four year mark? Are they better? or do we waste their talents because we shove them into the lineup way before they were supposed to?

And we didn't have anybody competing against them because we weren't developed in the roster with younger players that we should be. You can see those teams that actually do that. They stand out. So to me, free agency should be exactly how you build your team with veterans that have experienced, that have now been developed enough to be worth another bite at the apple versus somebody that you have no idea what he's going to look like or translate to in an NFL uniform, none. You know, Bhop, if at the beginning of this segment, I would have said that you would have done a statistical,

I guess improvement for the Titans. I would have been wrong because I would have at least leaned on you potentially picking the offensive line, carrying things over from one year to the second. Now I know the stats in the offense, total office, is within the offensive line improvement. Of course, it starts up front. But how much of the carryover needs to happen, absolutely,

from last year to this year, given how much they played better at the end of last year. They were able to run the ball, develop an identity. Of course, Peter Skoronsky potentially do for a payday. You want to see J.C. Latham keep the penalties down and some right guard help as well. Maybe Jackson Slater gets that chance. How much does it start with those guys? You know, instead of being a jack of all trades and a master of none, let's try and be a master of one when it comes to being up front.

In other words, if I were considered to be the best pass blocking team, best past blocking unit in the National Football League, don't you think that would pay big dividends on Cam Ward's ability, his performance? I think it would. If they were the best run blocking team in the National Football League, don't you think Tony Powell, Tadj Spears, Kalil, any of those guys, Julian would be just, wow, we are getting, we got two backs that rushed for 1,000 yards, that kind of situation. But we're not dominant in either. But what I would say is when you're not, I'll go back to what I said before about are we putting the work in outside of business hours? Because to me, that's a huge part. You get into trouble when you're thinking, when you're not really sure about what you do, doing, when you're not confident, okay? If I knew exactly what I was doing every single second I was on the football field by look, by lineup, by formation, by everything else,

I'm least likely to make a mistake. You know what I mean? Are we feeding these kids? Are they drinking out of a fire hose? Did the last part of the 2025 season show a more simplified game plan, something that can be more specific about? So if it's coming up with the best way that these guys learn and you can see because you did, you know, we used to do this thing called law school.

Law school was when as an offense, an entire offense and an entire defense in their own group, the coaches would have you stand up and they would ask you questions about the offense about what your assignments were. Think about that. You're standing up in the entire office and you're telling them that you know your playbook or it can go miserably wrong. You're standing in, you have no idea what you're talking about or you have no idea what the answer is. Do you know how unprofessional that makes you look? But see, that's what translates to junking to acting up on the football field because you're shooting yourself in the foot by making mistakes because you don't know what you're doing or you're second guessing yourself or you're not playing at 100 percent.

because you really are, aren't quite sure or confident what you're doing. So I think that them making sure as players that they grasp the system itself and the way it's taught could kind of cement that. So that's what I want them to work on. Then that almost ensures carry over into the next year. Brad, it's funny. My dad used to have a saying when he was coaching. He'd say, if you're thinking, you're stinking.

You know what I mean? Like if you think too much and you're not just reacting and playing and you don't have it memorized like the back of your hand, so that you don't have to think out there. You're not going to be able to do it. And what's crazy is, we know for a fact that you're 100% right. When Jeffrey Simmons did that interview on Bustin with the boys,

he talked about the differences between Mike Vrabel's program and Brian Callahan's program, and Callahan wouldn't even have these boys bringing pen and paper to the meetings. And Vrable would be given pop quizzes. Vrable would pop quiz the defense on something the offense is installing. Like, you better know everything. And guys were scared to be embarrassed and not know. And listen, part of respect.

is fear. There is a natural and healthy amount of fear with leadership and respect where I don't want to let you down, I don't want to be made foolish, I need to be on top of my P's and Q's so that if he does call on me, if I am putting the spotlight, I have the answers. I can't be the guy who gets embarrassed. And if you're not even having guys bring pen and paper to the meetings to write stuff down and your head coach isn't leading the Friday film session to get guys ready and it's your special teams coach, are guys going to be bought in or they're going to be paying attention. And Simmons talked about that directly. So everything that you're saying, he gave us legit examples of that's why the Titans were getting penalties, not locked in,

not doing things the right way, because they weren't being held accountable to do that. So they need, they need the culture. Think about that Tyler. They were able to turn that program around in such a short period of time because of the accountability factor of knowing what you're doing. It's a simple thing. Mike Vrable says, look, what's going to happen here is if you don't know your playbook, you will be embarrassed. Now, how much better am I making my players if they know their playbook, if they simply know what they're doing. You see what I'm saying? It's as simple as that. Now, the thing is, players know that. Hey, man, Braves holds pop quizzes, dude. He's tough. It's hard. I don't know if I want to be a poor of that.

And you know that you're not willing to make that commitment so you don't go there. So when you go there, when you commit to being there, unless you've been drafted or something, you know what you're getting into. And it's that type of player that goes there for that kind of coaching. okay and that's what makes them better that's what makes them more competitive because they don't make those same mistakes those foolish errors that cost you ball games because every single team in the national football league has all-Americans they've got captains of the football team they've got pro bowlers every single one of them why do some teams like the cleveland browns miss the playoffs for 21 straight years because they don't have that culture that that accountability that makes them know what the

hell they're doing from top to bottom. B.op said it perfectly. Tyler, you said it perfectly. You got to bring that pen and pad. You got to do it, especially to our listeners, too. Maybe we should have them start bringing pen and pad to this show. Taking all the wisdom here. All right, guys, on the other side of the break, we talked about the offense. We're going to do defense. Who are the difference makers? How will that unit have success in 2026? That's coming next here on the Titan Squad Show. Keep it locked. All right. Workplace chaos. Deadline stacking up. Inbox. overwhelming and overflowing. And the one position you have to fill is still sitting open.

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the top, it's not just Brian Daible addressing the media this week. It is also Gus Bradley, the defensive coordinator under Robert Sala. Of course, we know this is Robert Sala's defense, right? However, I pose the same question to you. If the defense is to have success in 2026 and to improve, it is because of what? T. Roe. Robert Sala. That would be my answer. Robert Sala is why the defense is going to take a step forward. Just everywhere he goes, his defense plays incredible. And last year in San Francisco, they had a bunch of injuries and everything like that. But that defense was still fantastic for most of the year. And you go back, I said this when he was hired and talked about him as a candidate. His final 17 games for the New York

Jets, his defense was number one and expected points added per play. The number one defense in the NFL, the final 17 games that he coached them. And they were 32nd. The 17 games after he left. Like, I mean, it's that simple. He is a defensive mastermind, and having the answers for what the offense is going to do is going to take the defense to the next level. You look at the coaching staff that he's brought over.

Aaron Whitecotton on the defensive line has been absolutely incredible on all of his stops. I mean, the defensive line was the lifeblood of what the New York Jets defense was when they were together in New York. And then he goes to Dallas last year, and Dallas's defense wasn't that great, But that defensive line, once they got Quinn and Williams in the trade,

I mean, they sabotaged the defense when they traded away Michael Parsons right before the season. I mean, as a coach, what are we going to do about that? But once they got Quinn and Williams in there and they actually had sufficient enough talent, they got Genevian Clowny in there and he had a pretty good back end of the season. Aaron Whitecott in his credit, Quinn and Williams said it himself, he took me from a good young ascending player to an all-pro level player. He changed his stance, worked on his team, technique. Aaron Whitecotton is one of the best defensive line coaches in the entire NFL.

So the Titans are going to have some young players on the defensive line like Femi, whoever they draft in the draft early on. Sweat is still a young player as well if he's still around. And you add those guys and get them playing better and what that can mean for Jeffrey Simmons. We think Jeffrey Simmons had a good year this year. Wait until he has some help around him. I mean, the Titans had a makeshift defensive line with Jihad Ward. And they were playing Jalen Harrell a ton as a seventh round second year player.

you know, like once the Titans add an edge in free agency, get one of these edge rushers early in the draft, get the best out of Tavondre sweat, bring in a guy like John Franklin Myers or bring back SJD or both of those things. Like, once the Titans load up more on D-line talent and then have one of the better D-line coaches in the NFL, Jeffrey Simmons is about to go even more crazy this season.

So I think the defense is all about the improvement in coaching. I think Dinar Wilson was a decent defensive coordinator. I don't want to make it seem like he was bad, but you add a little bit of talent and then you get top-tier defensive coaching in the NFL. I think when we talk about how this team can be successful in 2026, yeah, I agree with what Brad's saying. They need to move the offense forward,

but the offense may take one extra year. I think the defense can be dominant this year and having at least one dominant side of the ball with an improved offense gets you to a lot more wins than three. You know, as a Houston oil and Tennessee, Titan, as an offensive player, practice was never easy. From my very first season where I would go up against Sean Jones and Wilbur Marshall

and William Fuller and Ray Childress, it was hard. I've never went against a unit that we had that was so-so suspect. I said all that to say, when your question, quarterback is nervous, that's the best thing. When he's nervous because he knows that he's going to get hit in about two and a half seconds, it's inevitable. That that's what creates happy feet. That's what creates getting a ball out of your hands erroneously and into the hands of the defense before you're ready to.

Because at the end of the day, I can try and concentrate and focus on going through progression, delivering an accurate ball. But if I know I'm going to get hit in the mouth right after or before I leave the head and this ball off, It affects my mentality. It just, it really does. So the last time that this team, or the only time this team went to the Super Bowl, we had dudes across the front four that you just couldn't block. You just couldn't block them.

Yvonne was coming off that edge so damn fast. I'm talking, I mean, ridiculously, right? And the worst part of the while it was if you tried to slide to him, somebody else is going to eat your lunch. And I think that Jeffrey Simmons, has the opportunity to make David Bailey a household name. I'm talking about the next Micah Parsons, the next dude. You know why?

Because like you just mentioned, Tyler, he had 12 sacks last year on a kind of a suspect front four, right? Yeah, yeah. Sox. Imagine if he's got a cat out there on the edge that you know is going to need more attention than just one guy can block. You see what I'm saying? So now you've possibly got a guy on the outside that gets 12 sacks. And Jeffrey's mentioned averaging double-digit sacks. You're in the 20s, fellas.

This is Musak City, not Music City. You see what I'm saying? I'm pointing that right now. Change the I to an A. Change the I to an A. We'll call it Musaq! Like what Mike Keith used to do. New Jack City, baby.

You know, I know it sounds more like New Jack City, but it's New Jack City and Musack City. Let's do it, fellas. That's what I'm saying right now. It can be the possible difference because, you know, you've got some really talented offenses that come in here, high power guys that can sling the bean and do all the stuff. But what happens when you got guys in his face?

We've seen it. We've seen it, right? Drake May? We've seen it, right? Has two homes? Really good years. Offensive, you know, just got a handle on it. But when you got dudes that are just knocking you to the ground and chasing your butt around

all day, you look pretty pedestrian. That's how you win ball games. And I think Robert Salas scheme can help Jeffrey Simmons, because he does that wide nine alignment where the defensive ends are super wide. And when you widen out the line of scrimmage like that, that forces the offensive line to widen out, which creates bigger holes on the inside,

more space for Jeffrey Simmons to win his matchup and operate. So all of that, yes, they need some more attention to the outsides, widen out that offensive line with the wide nine alignments, let Jeffrey Simmons not have to play in such a phone booth and have a little more wiggle room to do his thing. All of it can come together to make a true line. dominant front. And I think that's what changes the Titans into a winner quicker than anything else. Beehive, it looks like Javon Kirst could still play. I mean, that dude is ripped,

man. I mean, I know the cardio ain't there, but I tell you what, though, he looks the part. You know what I'm saying? You just, you get win to fellas. I mean, I actually thought about that. We actually were talking about that Super Bowl week. How many plays could you get? How many plays? I said, you know what, I could probably get, I could probably do two plays at 100 percent, okay? The first play, I'm going to shock myself, right? It won't hurt. But that second one, you know, I know that when I do a system check and things are failing all over it, you know, when the red gauges are blinking. I know it's time to shut it down. So I probably got about two good play. And that's it. Well, that's about watching Mike Tyson in that boxing event that he did

last year. You know, he looked good. He looked good in round one and two. Like, hey, he's a, but after that, you could tell, but he was tired. Well, hey, Brad, you got me be. I'd do one or two plays and be dead. I'd just be laying on the field. They'd have to carry me out like Space Jam, like Looney Tunes or something. So at least you could get a couple in there.

I'd be dead with Tyler as well. So yeah, we're toast. You got it. You got us be. Let me ask you this, fellas. How important is it for this defense? Because something Mike Burgonzi talked about in one of his more recent press conferences

was that Jeff Simmons is obviously the reason, one of the reasons they're going to turn things around. He is a pillar of this organization. But how important is it for the Titans to find those other pillars, whether it be from the guys they bring in or the guys that they already have? Somebody like, let's say Cedric Gray, can he turn one year to two? Kevin Winston, what can we see from a full healthy year like Femiolidia, like Tyler said? How important is it to find those guys that rally this defense with a defensive-minded head coach like a Robert Sala? Kevin Winston is the one I'm looking at.

With the way that Robert Sala places 4-2-5, big nickel, we saw Kevin Winston play some slot corner. on early downs and Dynard Wilson's defense because Dynard Wilson likes to run three safety looks. Kevin Winston is about to become a superstar. I truly believe it. And I think it was Nick Saban who said, hey, this guy would be a first round talent without the injury during the draft. Like, we're talking about a first round talent. And that's why, you know, Caleb Downs is a great player. I'm from Ohio. I'm a Buckeye. I love the Buckeyes.

I watch every Ohio State Buckeye game. I watch them all, okay? I don't love them as much as I love my Tennessee Titans, but that's my team. has been since I was born. So, like, I like the Buckeyes and Caleb Downs is a phenomenal player, but people don't realize how close Kevin Winston is to being a talent like that. You know, like, we don't need to go out and draft Caleb Downs in the top five of the draft. We got Kevin Winston at home, and I know that he may not have the pop that Downs does right now,

but being able to be a physical safety, come down in the box, play in the nickel, and we saw Nick on Monwry, Jalen Petrie. There's a bunch of guys around the NFL right now who are safeties in college who have converted to kind of be in more nickel cornerbacks on early downs that can blitz play against the run. Basically, you could play a 4-3 alignment, but one of those linebackers is actually a safety, which gives you an advantage to defend the pass as well.

Kevin Winston is about to go to another level with Robert Sala in this defense. That's the one guy I'm looking at like, if there's another superstar currently on the defense who isn't quite there, yet. It's Kevin Winston to me. And of course, Robert Sala was a linebacker coach. He turned Fred Warner and all these other guys into great lineback. Look what he did for C.J. Mosley's career in New York when people thought he was done. Dave Borgonzi. We all want to laugh and joke.

Oh, they hired Mike Borgonzi's brother. But, I mean, he worked with all those great linebackers in Indianapolis, like Shaq Leonard and Zaire Franklin and Bobby O'Kareke. He worked with Roquan Smith in Chicago. Like Dave Borgonzi has worked with a lot of. really, really good linebackers as well. So I'm looking at Cedric Gray and Kevin Winston, like these dudes can become

superstars and then you add a David Bailey or Ruben Bain, you add a corner on the outside. Now we got some real stuff to work with. 100%. In a matter of fact, Cedric Gray was going to be somebody that I thought could make a huge impression because if they have that buy-in,

like what Jeffrey Simmons has developed over the past few years, that buy-in that says, hey, look, fellas, we want to do things the right way. We want to set the tone here. We want to create a culture. of accountability, kind of like what we were talking about with Mike Vrable, right? Just from a player standpoint, hey, what we do here is we don't leave the facility until six o'clock because we're watching film. And then we might even go do something on our own, our free time. And that

is, you know, for the better collective of the team itself, by nerding out and doing overtime on our own, you know, that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Just making sure that the main thing is the main thing. You hear everybody always say that, right? Well, Cedric Gray, by performance, has, I think, given himself the autonomy to be able to split. speak that language. Match my energy, fellas. Do what I'm doing. You know what I mean? And I need a linebacker in that mid-level, that mid-range to be able to do that because safety's, you know, y'all got the biggest mouths. You're probably the most athletic on the team. You got the biggest mouths. Shut up. You're the smallest dudes too, so just cush. You know what I mean? Brad, what do you

think I played in high school? Exactly. The big guys up front. I mean, okay, just, you know, I, My leader don't usually come from up front because you're too close to the line scrimmage. You can't see what I see. But my linebackers, my Mike Singletaries, you know what I mean? My guys that command the defense, that call the defense out, those cats that play sideline to sideline, they're athletic and mean and nasty. Those are the ones that lead the charge on defense.

So we got Big Jeff that obviously is committed. We need somebody in that middle range to have that same kind of, you know, that same kind of commitment, that same kind of identity. that Big Jeff has. It's funny you say that Bhop at Locker Clean Out Day. I was talking to Cedric Gray in the locker room and I said, hey, 97 tackles. You're the top five of the NFL in tackles. You think you've established yourself as one of the pillars of this organization.

And he laughed and said, yeah, 97 tackles. I would hope so. So that's a confident dude right there, violent dude. And he and along with Kevin Winston, like you mentioned, Tyler, has first round talent. Those are guys that are certainly to watch, especially elevating in a Robert Sala defense. All right. on the other side of the break.

We're going to talk about what everybody else has been talking about over the last few days. The logo, right? The logo leaked in the most Tennessee Titans fashion ever.

We also have some potential mock-ups of what BeHop thinks a logo could look like. We have that coming up next year on the Titan Squad show. Don't go anywhere. All right.

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Play your game with FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. All right, guys. So there was a plush football. that got leaked from a fan site to a fan merchandise site. And it had a different Tennessee Titans logo. And of course, that got people thinking about getting the ball rolling on that new leaked Titans logo, of course, without the flames. Got a little bit of an homage to the Oilers colors as well.

Behop, you lived both sides of the history there, the Titans and Oilers. What do you think about the leaked logo that's out there right now? You know, guys, I always thought that the flames on the original Titans logo were kind of world leagueish. You know, I mean, USFL, you know, I first saw, you know, but looking at the new logo without it, I wanted to see something else added, you know. The new logo, right, like you mentioned, Julian, it's paying homage to the state logo of Tennessee with a lighter blue than the original navy, but darker than the original. Columbia blue for the Houston Oilers. For me, just don't circle the logo. You know, it's like a bull's eye.

You know what I mean? Take a page out of the Balls book and just use the tea with the stars, if you want to acknowledge the state. But I did have my own rendition I came up with last night. It should look battle tested. It should be stoic. It should look mythological. You see what I'm saying?

because that's what a Titan is. A Titan went to war with Kronus. You know what I mean? One of the creators of the universe in mythology, right? I think that's Zeus's dad. But the point is, it doesn't look like some circus.

You know what I mean? Some just like, you know, even if you just took the T itself as tattered as it looks with the stars and put that on the side of the helmet, like I remember when my fighting a We played Michigan one game or one year, and we had these helmets that looked like the leather helmets that they played with back when Red Grange was playing for the Ilk for the Illini, right?

The leather helmet, but it was an actual new helmet. It just looked leather. It was the most, but the thing is, it was shiny, um, uh, enamel looking. It was amazing. So I like those looks that look, you know, worn, that look tattered. like they've been through some stuff, but yet they're still standing. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought the Titans logo would look like because that's what a Titan is,

essentially. I mean, think about it. When you're talking about that, you know, first down, when you get first down, when they go, oh, oh, oh, that boy, you know, because that's like some 300 type stuff. You know what I mean? That's what I was thinking. They kind of need to decide. They need to decide whether they're going to lean into the Greek mythology portion of Titans

or whether they want to get away from that. Some of the stuff they've done as of late make you think that they're going to go away from. And I know there was a report from East and Freeze from A to Z that they are kind of going away from that. But they do need to decide because right now they're kind of trying to cut it halfway like with the whoo in the stadium

and you know, everything that's going on the Athens of the South and all that different stuff. So they either need to lean into it or they need to get out of it and be totally in. You can't have one foot in and one for another. Brad, obviously I respect that. opinion and the work it takes to put your own logo together. But I kind of like the new logo. I'm all over it. I'm going to champion it. I like the clean look. I think some of the best

logos in the NFL, the iconic logos in the NFL, the Packers, the Steelers, the Cowboys. Like they aren't super complex or super busy. They're three colors, four colors, max, simple, timeless, classic. So I really love the, well, we don't really know it's the new logo, right? but the elite version of the logo. And I found it funny, and a lot of people have made this anecdote, but the Titans coaching staff went bald this year, and the Titans logo went bald too. They took off the flames and went bald for that.

So I think that's kind of funny timing for sure. But I like the new logo. I like going towards the Oilers color, simply because it looks awesome. The Oilers' colors, in my opinion, are the best color set in the entire NFL. So if we're going more to those colors and maybe cutting out the Navy as a prime,

primary color. I'm fine with that because I just want the jerseys to look cool. And I think that the logo doesn't look great on the plush toy for sure. But on the helmets, on merchandise, like, let me show you guys this. I got a hat that I wear some times and I only wear it backwards. Because look at this off centered T, look at this. What are we doing here? Now if the logo in full width, it's centered, but because of the flames, it looks way off centered. It looks way off centered.

dumb so I'm okay with getting rid of the flames and having just a circle logo that's symmetrical maybe it's the millennial in me but I do like the simplistic changes of the new logo so I'm actually fully on board with what we've seen and I kind of if that is what they're doing I like the path that they're going to just do this then so we all love the Houston oiler jersey right yeah we're the damn Houston oil or jersey just like you used to back when you're in Houston except take the oil Derek off and put a tea on it. And guess what? From the red stripes on the white helmet to the powder blue to the whole nine, you are

just like what everybody's fighting to do. It's like you play, you know, how with the history of it all. You are essentially the Houston oil. So be the Houston oilers. Just those by color standard. There's nothing wrong with the tea. And the stars, you know, accompanying. I just didn't like the circle of it.

You know, the circle, just put a tea on there, you know, with the stars. That's cool. You know what I mean? If you're not going to put it to. If you're not going to put something on it, but just the circle itself, you know, miss me on that. The tea can be bigger, too. You know, if you take away the circle that's the outside,

that kind of limits how big the tea. You could make the tea bigger on the side of the helmet without the circle. You know, here real quick, Mr. Hosten in the comments. Yeah. Bro, he hit it on the head. The worst thing that could have happened was for Bud to take the whole Houston oilers away from Houston. You know what I mean?

He was starting in Tennessee with a new identity, you know, a new state, a new logo, new everything. He should have just left the Houston Oilers be the Houston Oilers because they would still be in existence. There's still be that lineage going back to the 60s, guys, to the AFL. You know what I mean? And it's gone now. You know what I mean? We're doing all this, you know, representing the old and all this other stuff when essentially it could have been there. It still could still be there.

The Houston Oilers could be the New York Giants, the Green Bay Packers, the Chicago Bears, the Houston Oilers from 67 to 2027. You see what I'm saying? That would have been awesome. But, you know, we missed that opportunity. We, you know, we're upset. We're emotional about the way that they slammed the door on us when we left and just took that whole franchise with us. That sucks. like Jay-Z said if you like my old stuff buy my old album you know what I mean that's what

I basically Bhop is saying right there I like the logo too like Tyler said I think it looks better on actual merchandise which is obviously the big part of a rebrand the business side of things for the Titans like because when I first saw it I was like it's it's a little simple um maybe a little too simple but I think the fact when it when you when you saw it on the mock of the helmets like we have for our viewing audience here. I'll pull that up one more time for a viewing audience on YouTube. Yeah, I think it looks great on the on the helmets. I actually also like the red stars more than the white stars to be honest with you. I don't know how you guys. Oh yeah. It makes the white tea pop. Yeah. Stars are red. You know, I got to be honest. I got to be

honest though. I saw the one on the left first and I wasn't the man. The one on the right. I'm not going to get out with that. As long as they have the red face mask, man. The red face mask is menacing. I love the red face mask. Oh, it looks great. Absolutely. You know what?

I'm on with the one on the right. With the red stripe in the middle, right? Yes. With the red face mask, that's kind of oiler-esque. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I always felt like they should have used the red a little bit more than they have been. So, yeah, that would certainly be a plus as well.

The players have dove it. I think, you know, a lot of people are talking about red, because maybe, you know, this wasn't something that you guys were into, but, you know, they used to have red alternate jerseys that float around. They never wore them. They never were worn out on the field. We actually made for it. I can't remember of the 23 season.

Or 23. Like, I was even planning it. The 23. The old three season, I think that's when we had them. And it was supposed to be for a Christmas game. Yeah. We never wore those dang jerseys, man. That would have been, that would have been hardcore.

Well, it's a cult classic out there with Titans fans. Anytime you see a red jersey or anything like that, because everybody knows they never got on the field, but they look so good. Like, I love the red accents that the players are adding. Like, Jeffrey, Cam, where's the red cleats? And Simmons was wearing the red sleeve. Like, the players clearly love the red and want to dive into the red more.

So maybe if they do it, don't have like a like here's my idea you got the the light blue the titan blue Columbia blue jersey you got the white pants you got the white jersey that's the away what if they had in all navy with accents of white and light blue called Broadway nights or music city midnights where they had because they're going to get an alternate Nike rivalry jersey too like that's already decided they'll have their home in a way that are their standard jerseys and then they're getting an alternate jersey this year also. What if that was all Navy blue and they called it something like that?

You know, to add that for the fans who missed the Navy and the two-tone blue, like you could at least have an alternate that has some of that in it. Broadway nights or, you know, Music City Midnights or something like that. Like, let me in the room, Nike. Just call me. I'm here. I'm available. I will give you these ideas that I'm plotting on.

I'm just saying I think that change causes friction. and people don't like change and things like that. But I think a year from now, after we see these jerseys out on the field and we see what's possible, I think we're all going to sit back and be like, they made the right decision here. Yeah, they would look great on TV and on broadcast.

That's for sure. Oh, yeah. It's for sure. All right. On the other side of the break, we have a ton of questions that have been flowing through the live chat here on YouTube. We're going to do our best to answer those for you

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I mean, I say they should trade Will Levis. I will continue to say I think it's best for both parties. The Titans need a more veteran backup quarterback to support Cam Ward. Will Levis still views himself as a starting quarterback in the NFL. And I think, you know, again, it's best for both parties to find an amicable split there and I think that's the way that they should go but if you're not if nobody's offering you anything why give them up for free let him play in the preseason let him play in training camp joint practices maybe that can increase his value before the season ridley's more complicated

I got to play it by ear with Calvin Ridley because if the Titans can get some massive upgrade or something like that at wide receiver then sure cut Calvin Ridley save 13 million dollars go get your massive upgrade but if things are going the way that they look like they're going to go why would you cut Calvin Ridley for 13 million when you already have $100 million in cap space? You don't need that money. And when he's on the field, he is a talented player. He may not be the number one wide receiver that he was with the Atlanta Falcons or anything. But he's still a good player when he's out on the field.

He basically won them that Cardinals game with some incredible catches down the field, the seam down the middle, the go route down the right sideline. Like Calvin Ridley's still good. So you don't have to cut him. So I got to see what the free agent market looks like. I'm only moving on from Calvin Ridley if I absolutely have to because, again, if you can't find a number one wide receiver this all season, then have as many twos and threes as you can have. And Ridley is a two at this point in his career. You know, I'm all for evaluating Will Levis during the preseason.

I'm all for, and that's the final line. You got to walk. I want Cam to get some reps in preseason because he's only going into a second season. you know, he still needs to get, you know, fluid, keep going, that kind of stuff. I think that you see the injuries that happened to Lamar Jackson this year, the lack of practice time, that kind of stuff. It did affect his ability, right? So you don't want to slow that down. But I do want to see a healthy dose of levice.

So that way I can see what kind of trade value I'm having here. If he looks like he's, you know, doing really well, can possibly be that kind of veteran backup that we have for a younger guy in case things, you know, just get, hits her or something like that. You don't have to go out and spend money trying to find a Joe Flacco. You know, I'm just saying that because he's seemed to be the perennial backup nowadays. It's just his role. That's been playing. But, you know, you already have that in-house. But then you can also see where other teams, you're shopping them essentially. You can say, hey, oh, look at Will Levis. You know, it looks really good. And who knows what Will Levis will look

like being coached by Brian Dayball? He's going to get some of the best coaching he's received as a pro, period. You know, so let's see what that looks like. This might end up being a guy that you, you know, I'm not going to say, let's create an issue down the road, like a Kirk Cousins, uh, uh, RG3 type deal. Oh, oh, okay. I'm just saying, you know, it would be nice to see to increase his value by watching him get better instruction

and who knows how it works out for you. Indeed. Mr. Houston won. He's been commenting throughout the show. He's got one right here. My question is about the interior offense. line. What do we make of Skoronsky and Latham? Are these guys reliable? What can we gather about Ward in the offensive line? Interior to me, guard specifically, and I think he meant to say

upgrade right there. I mean, yeah, they need a right guard, right? You know, that's what we know. Skoronsky is a fantastic player. No reason to do anything with him. Latham, the book is still out. I thought Latham played a lot better in the back half of the season. Gave up six sacks in the first nine weeks of the year, only gave up two in the last eight weeks of the year. His play got a lot better. Like most of the team, his play got a lot better after the buy week. So I think the book is still out on Latham. This third year is make or break for J.C. Latham, in my opinion as to what he's going to be in his career.

But, I mean, right now, at a right guard, let Jackson Slater compete with that guy. And that's really all I think they need to do on the offensive line other than, hey, if you get a good value on an offensive tackle, round three, round four, round five, take them and develop him to take over for Dan Moore. Like we know Dan Moore is who he is. They don't have a long-term left tackle.

But I think with Skoronsky and Latham, and you get a bright guard in here and free agency, you could have a lot of your offensive line pretty settled for the next couple of years. You know what? For me, the math wasn't mathing. You draft the J.C. Latham and you think that he's going to get some of the best coaching he's ever had

because of who was supposed to be coaching him. He didn't. he didn't get developed he went from left tackle as a rookie to right tackle in his second year still trying to make adjustments with suspect coaching it's just you finally need some stability i think j c leatham can be phenomenal i think he can be a very athletic right tackle i think there's a lot of things that he can do i think i expect to see his game get taken to the next level this upcoming season if anything just by a sheer experience Peter's a dog.

He's a dog. He's the dude. You know what I mean? Obviously, right guard should be a point of contention. Not a point of contention, but it should be like a point of emphasis. I do like Lloyd Cushenberry. Health-wise, it hasn't necessarily been there as much. But, you know, we've actually accomplished more with less.

Let's just say that. And left tackle, that should always, in my opinion, and be a fight to see who's going to be best. Because your left tackle should be your best offensive alignment period. Your left tackle should be your best offensive alignment period. And if we look across the board, if you look in that room and you can't say that, then the search continues. That's just the way it should be.

And for context, the Titans have until May 1st to pick up Peter Skoronsky's fifth year option as well. So he could be potentially due for a payday. and it seems like he is one of two guys, him and Jeffrey Simmons, do for some big paydays because they are the two best players on the team as things stand right now. What about this? Because there's been a lot of talk about A.J. Brown, right? And the talk is, I don't blame the talk, but Tyler, I know you mentioned earlier in the show that why would he come here?

Why would he want to go back to the Titans when he was so close? He won a Super Bowl and then going with a team that maybe be closer to Super Bowl contention. A future second or third round won't kill us to get A.J. back. is Jeremy Mahalo. I mean, I agree, like a future second or third round pick would not kill the Titans. I mean, sure, they could make that work. And AJ Brown, still one of the top seven, top eight, maybe top five wide receivers in the entire NFL. Like, I don't think that he's not good anymore.

But I saw another comment in the chat about AJ Brown. Like, he's won a championship. You know, he's gotten his money. Why wouldn't he come back? You could talk to Brad if you want. Like, just because you win doesn't mean. that your competitive fire dies. It's not like A.J. Brown won a Super Bowl

in Philly and now he doesn't really care about winning anymore. If that was the case, he wouldn't be wanting out of Philadelphia because he doesn't think their offense is good enough to actually win going forward. So the idea that, you know, A.J. Brown is in his twilight ears now and he just wants to, you know, like Thanos, come

back and sit on the farm and smile over his grateful universe that he created. Like, no, that's, that's, AJ still wants to win. He still has a burning desire to win football. games and win championships. And if you're honest with yourself, that's not where the Titans are at right now. He needs to go to Buffalo, to Kansas City. You know, he needs to, he's going to want to, now, here's the thing. Philadelphia doesn't have to send him where he wants to go. So if the Titans want to win the bidding war,

you know, then sure, go ahead and do that. But is that really where the Titans are at right now? Do they need to be trading for Max Crosby or George Pickens or going out and training? eating for AJ Brown. Like this team is just not in a position to give up high level draft capital to go get a player who can put them over the top because they're not even close to the top yet. So I think that a lot of fans just have nostalgia. You know, they crave the feeling that they had when AJ and Henry were on the team, not those guys themselves. So the Titans need to move forward, not backward. AJ's not coming back here. He's not going to want to come back here. I just don't think that it's realistic to consider. It's

just not going to happen. The Titans need to go find their next AJ Brown. And if people remember, I say it all the time, where'd they get AJ Brown? The second round of the draft. Like, superstar wide receivers can be found in the draft if you hit right. The next AJ Brown for the Tennessee Titans will be somebody who they draft, not someone who they trade for. Yeah, it'd be nostalgic for fans, but for AJ it'd be just like going to a different team. I mean, the quarterback's different, you know, a lot of the line's different, the coaches are different. It'd be other than him knowing where Broadway was and where Nashville hot chicken you can get, you know, that kind of stuff.

Other than that, I mean, this is a new place for him, you know? Now, if you want to go back to a familiar environment, you pretty much know what the facility looks like and all this other stuff, just to kind of get back to some familiar ground, you know what I mean? Just to, you know, like, you know, take a deep breath, you know, just go back. to where it all started for you, you know what I mean? Then maybe that's just where you are right now. But I can see, here's the conundrum fellas that happens every time, especially for guys that are used to being in that spotlight, like an AJ was.

When the attention gets focused on something else as the catalyst for the reason why you win, it takes a very selfless person that if you've been in that position before, it just be like accepting of that. You know what I mean? So Sequin comes in, rushes for over 2,000. yards to really put an emphasis on the ground game, this and that, and third. And H.H. Run a lot of routes.

You know what I mean? It's not like his numbers were down tremendously, but he just running around a lot of routes. We're making a lot of catches, a lot of attention, a lot of focus going this direction. So it, you know, hey, I get it. We're winning. We want a championship. Yeah, great. You know, hey.

So, well, what's up? What am I doing? You know, how am I helping? You know, what do I need to do to get back to you to get more attention? And it sounds like, you know, it's very self-serving, but you're like the guy just wants to be a part of her. And it wasn't as it was balanced enough, but not to the point where he got what he felt he needed as far as the attention and and recognition for their success, you know? So it happens. You know what I mean? And that's why you see a lot of these, you call them diva receivers, right? Because they just want to they want the, I'm always open. Remember

an AJ's commercial? You remember his commercials on the treadmill? He said, I'm like 7-11. I'm always open. You know, always open. You know, so that's the mentality. He's trying to tell you. you right now, I am never covered. Just throw it my way. That's the way that most receivers think. And to Tyler's point, this is a very deep wide receiver draft. You can find some good value, even if the Titans don't take a Jordan Tyson or a Carnell Tate at fourth overall. They can maybe find a receiver later in the draft. So we'll see of that. And we'll also have a ton of draft talk as it gets closer. We're also getting closer to free agency and the combine. We're going to talk about all that stuff on the Titan squad show. That is every Tuesdays and Fridays during the off season.

But for now, I'm Julian Minnan. So that's Tyler Rowland and the legend Brad Hopkins. We'll see you guys on Friday.