Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - TITANS SQUAD SHOW: Titans CAN'T FUMBLE Cam Ward's growth, defense COLLAPSES, special teams SHINES

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

The Tennessee Titans are 0-2 following the loss to the LA Rams. We discuss what we've liked and disliked about the team's performance in a segment called Titans Up vs. Titans Down. We also discuss why... the Titans can't afford to drop the ball on Cam Ward's development. Plus, we look ahead at week three against the Indianapolis Colts.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!5-Hour ENERGYEnough with boring, flavorless caffeine, it’s time to give your caffeine a flavor upgrade with 5-hour ENERGY®️ shots. Get the favorites you love or be bold and try something new in-store and online at https://www.5hourENERGY.com or Amazon today.   DoorDashWith DoorDash Streaks, you save every Saturday you order — stack it up all season and you could save up to $250. Order this Saturday. Keep the streak alive. Fuel your gameday — only with DoorDash. Terms apply. Promo period through 11/18.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNFL at https://monarchmoney.com/lockedonnfl for 50% off your first year.UpsideDon’t let this offer drive on by, download the free Upside app now using my limited time promo code TOUCHDOWN for a limited time 25 cent per gallon bonus! Offers vary by user and location, Go to upside.com for terms and conditions.Click Here to download the app:https://getupside.onelink.me/zlLr?af_xp=custom&pid=barrington&c=barrington_lockedon25&deep_link_value=promo&deep_link_sub1=lockedon25&af_dp=upsideapp%3A%2F%2FSquareTo learn more, go support your favorite neighborhood spot and see what Square has been up to in your neck of the woods. And then if you have extra time, check out https://square.com/go/lockedonnfl.PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use codeLOCKEDONNFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFLfor $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can bet just FIVE dollars and if your bet wins—you’ll get THREE HUNDRED dollars in bonus bets to use across the app.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Julian Mennyson, and man, those Titans' draft picks look pretty good. We'll talk about it here on The Squad Show. I'm Tyler Rowland, and it looks bad, folks, but if the Titans win this weekend, they're one game back in the South. I'm Brad Hopkins. In 1977, Richard Pryor came out with a movie called, Which Way Is Up? Although that was a comedy, we hope the Titans aren't. We'll see which way is up.
Starting point is 00:00:27 tighten up it's the titan squad everything tennessee titans every week covering all the big hits and game changing plays from the heart of music city the way only the locked on podcast network can squad up the titan squad show starts now and welcome to the titan squad show as you heard off the top I'm Julian Minnesone, along with Tyler Rowland and the legend Brad Hopkins. Another week in the books in the NFL, Titans coming off a third of degree to 19 loss to the L.A. Rams on Sunday. We're going to talk about all that stuff, what were high on the Titans, what were maybe not so high on the Titans about Cam Ward, and of course, the other side of the ball, the defense as well, and viewer comments too. So keep those comments coming.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Make sure to like, subscribe wherever you get your podcast here, the Titans Squad Show. You could also check out Tyler's Locked on Titans every single day. we'll answer the questions at some point in the show today so keep them coming also today's episode is brought to you by fan duel right now new customers can bet just five dollars and if your bet wins you'll get three hundred dollars in bonus bets to use across the app so fellas titans oh and two but how are you feeling are you feeling the two tone blues like a lot of the fans are right now I mean I got to tell you I know that they're oh and two I know that it hasn't looked good but if we just take a small step back, which is hard to do when you're in the middle of the battle. I admit, you know, I get fired up after the losses as well. But, you know, they played better against the Rams than the Texans did. And they had some opportunities to win that ball game.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The offense looked better than it did in Denver in a much more tough environment. So I do have some optimism that they can continue to improve and start, as Brad said, you know, which way is up? I think they can start taking it up a little bit. And again, I know that the Colts look like world beaters right now, but one win this weekend, and things feel a lot different in the division. You know, I think that Cam excited us with the potential during the preseason, and that's what kind of raised our level of expectation.
Starting point is 00:02:35 But I don't think anybody picked them to be 2 and 0 at this point when we started looking at the schedule, especially when you opened the season with two playoff teams, you know, one that was supposed to win the east or excuse me, the West, and challenged the chiefs in Denver Broncos. Now, they didn't look that crisp. And then a Rams team that came to town here, have another team expected to win the NFC West. And through 30 minutes of that ballgame,
Starting point is 00:03:00 it looked like the Titans not only had a chance, but we're going to come away with a W. So when you look at it realistically, maybe our expectation because we were excited about the youth at quarterback and how it seemed to be really taking charge, taking control, seen in a couple of years and that made us think hey man this team is they finally arrived but
Starting point is 00:03:23 they're still a work in progress you know so i'm not going to sit here and say oh man oh and two i'm so disappointed in this team because what did you think was going to happen when they opened the season with two playoff teams you know i think most people across the country had them losing these two games but like tyler said it just takes one win it takes one win to spark that fire to spark that confidence that allows him to compete. One thing that Sean McVeigh said during his post-game interview that really resonated with me, he said the Titans are a tough team. Now, we don't always just want to be known to being a tough team.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But that was an acknowledgement that this team can compete, that they aren't just some walk in the park. And once we start cleaning up those little things that plague us, you know, penalties and we'll talk more about all the other stuff, this team might have a chance. And I wanted to start off with a segment that, Tyler normally does on his show after game days on Sunday called tighten up versus tighten down. So we're going to start with tighten up, things that maybe we're encouraged about,
Starting point is 00:04:23 and then we'll go to tighten down with things that maybe we are discouraged about or a little bit weary on. So we're going to start tighten up. Tyler, since you're the one who brought this segment about, go ahead and start with what you're high on when it comes to the Titans right now. Yeah, Julian, it's my segment. Give me my credit right now. All jokes aside, I was impressed.
Starting point is 00:04:42 press with the run game. Against the Broncos, the Titans weren't able to run the ball. And if the Titans aren't able to run the football, they're going to put their rookie quarterback in a really, really tough spot. It's just not going to be manageable. But Tony Pollard went for 92 yards. The Titans went for 109 yards on the ground total, average 4.2 yards per carry in that game. The explosive runs haven't really come quite yet. Tony Pollard only has, you know, a 10-yard run is as long. We want to see some more explosive runs. But again, when you add in the context that the Rams are a pretty good defense. And against the Texans, they allowed 114 rushing yards. But like 40 of those were scrambles from C.J. Stroud. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:05:24 like the Texans were lining up and running it down the throat for 100 yards for the Rams. So I thought the Titans being able to get some success in the ground game, they really started to get some chunks there in the second half and move down the field. Things didn't end up great and they didn't put enough points on the board. But I was encouraged by the Titans being able to run the football and there's so much focus right now on the passing game because of Cam Ward, because of the rookie weapons, because of the offensive line and the skepticism there. All anybody wants to talk about are things relevant to the passing game. But the run game is going to be super important.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I think early in the process when we were in the preseason, when we were in training cap and stuff like that, the Titans were having most of the success that they had against their defense by running the football. And there was some encouraging signs there. So I think while it was ugly in week one and maybe it didn't look so great in week two because there's so many other things that are kind of smothering it down,
Starting point is 00:06:20 I think the Tennessee Titans run game is going to start to come along and when you consider that Lloyd Cushenberry didn't really have a great game and then you consider that Blake Hans played about one third of the snaps after Zytler injured his elbow and J.C. Latham,
Starting point is 00:06:34 who was a devastating bulldozing run blocker in college, he wasn't out there for this game And for the Titans to have pretty good success against the Rams on the ground, I think that's a very encouraging sign. I give that one a tighten up. 2492 for Tony Pollard there. Go ahead, Bhop. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It's the things that we're up about with the Tennessee Titans are kind of obvious. You know, Tony Pollard had 38 carries for 152 yards over the last couple of games, seven first downs. That should only improve when Tige Spears returns to the lineup. You know, I think you're kind of thin at that position. but I'm high on quarterback, you know, making plays when he has time, you know, and that's the premium word, right, when he has time. We saw an unbelievable connection with him and Alec Ayo Manor in the end zone and even
Starting point is 00:07:21 better catch down the sideline when he had some time in the pocket, you know, to have those explosive plays in the past game. So, you know, Cam has showed himself to have a lot of potential. And I think that when you look at maybe a balanced approach, taking advantage of the run game that you mentioned, Tyler and him not being in so many passing down in distances where the defense is allowed to pin their ears back and just start screaming up field, then you start to see probably more productivity, more expanse of the playbook, engaging play action.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Well, I want to see them do is protect him by moving the pocket, but also having the potential threat of running it. I mean, Lamar Jackson is one of the most lethal quarterbacks with the ball in his hands as a runner, right? And that affects how people pass rush him. And I'm not saying that Cam Ward is Lamar Jackson, but Cam Ward has that ability to get outside of the pocket to find those creases that running backs take advantage of and make the defense, when you respect you and your ability to be a dual threat quarterback versus just sitting in the pocket and letting the defenses tee off on you when obviously protection has been a problem to this point. Yeah, there was that play earlier in the
Starting point is 00:08:32 game where Ward was rolling out and found Calvin Ridley for one of the explosive plays that they had on the day. And he is a very underrated runner. One of the things that I'm, tightened up about, I guess right now is the special teams. I mean, you think about to a year ago how much of a mess this unit was. Then you bring in John Fossil, who's clearly one of the best, and it seems like he's kind of unlocking the potential of the group. Jim Dike Man, I mean, talk about a draft pick that seems to be hitting right now. You know, he was picked because of his speed was one of the reasons, you know, the 4th, 3, 4th, the combine. And he's showing that. He had the 70-yard return in the first game against Denver,
Starting point is 00:09:04 and then he had the one that was called back that would have been a touchdown, not for an illegal blind side block here against the Rams. So that's big. I know the Titans would love to finish a lot of more drives and touchdowns rather than settle for field goals, but it's nice to know that when you have to kick, Joey Sly has been perfect, eight for eight,
Starting point is 00:09:20 and three for three and 50 plus. So, and that's across the league. I mean, 50 is the new 40, it looks like, across the league right now for a lot of these kickers. It's pretty unbelievable what they're doing. So I know they want to finish with touch. but at least it's nice to have a guy that when you cross midfield, you know you're going to at least get three on the board. So that's what I'm at least high about right now, fellas.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I would say that about the whole special teams, you know, Johnny Hecker has pinned people inside the 20. You mentioned Joey Sly being a weapon from almost anywhere on the field. Jim D.K., the Titans, when was the last time the Titans had a great returner who you felt like, oh, he could house it at any time. Mark Mariani, Pac-Man Jones? Like, you know, how far back do we have to go here? So I think special teams as a whole you could give a Titan up to for sure. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Somebody already said in the chat, Give Bones a lifetime contract. That's from Bill Brown in there. Okay, guys, wanted to go tighten down now. What are some of the things that maybe you're discouraged about through these first two games and maybe a little bit worry about T.Row will start with you. Well, I guess I am discouraged about my kind of ties together with the run game. The Titans finally got the run game going,
Starting point is 00:10:27 and we saw Cam Ward with success on those play action bootlegs early in the game. And it just didn't happen enough. The Titans' play action percentage actually went down this week from 23% to 19%. And I know that Brian Callahan comes from a West Coast system. He wants to be in gun. He wants the quick passing game. Even in Cincinnati, that's something that a lot of Bengals fans always complained about is they didn't use play action enough to create explosive plays.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You can use max protect when you're in play action situations, keeping tight ends and backs in. You can create more holes over the middle of the field, drawing those linebackers up. I just don't think with the success the Titans had on the ground in this game, I'm just shocked that they didn't go to play action enough. Cam Ward was 5 for 7 with 52 yards on play action, seemed to have a lot of success in those areas. And not only does it create more holes over the middle of the field and opportunities for explosive plays as Calvin Ridley runs across the field
Starting point is 00:11:26 with his speed. But like Brad's been talking about, you get Cam Ward out of the pocket, away from the pass rush, give him more opportunities to read the field and scan the field and use that special spatial awareness that he does so well. And you give him the option to use his legs. So I know it's not really at the core of Brian Callahan's DNA as an offensive mind, like just philosophically speaking. It's just not what they want to do and what they did in Cincinnati or what they're doing enough here. But Cam Ward would be a major benefit from more play action for multiple reasons and I just don't understand why when you're having success on the ground like the Titans were against the Rams, why in that second half they didn't
Starting point is 00:12:07 work in more play action. So that's a tighten down for me and it goes back to, you know, I just don't know if Brian Callahan is going to, the test of a coach in my opinion is to mold your system to your players, build your system around the skill set of your players. And I thought even back to Willis, they didn't lean on play action enough. And they tried to put a square in a circle hole. And I just don't know if Callahan will go away from his principles enough to do what's best for the offense. And that's incorporating more play action to go with the success that I think they'll start having on the ground. We sat down with Cam Ward, we meeting Charles Davis and I did for serious during training camp.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And the first thing that he mentioned was sins. We all know what that means, you know, the negative. penalties guys has been a problem you know it puts us behind the sticks it creates passing downs that allow defenses to tee up on cam like i just mentioned it gives opposing offenses extended time on the field by converting first downs or shorter yards to convert it's like almost playing against two teams you know the negative team that continues to shoot itself in the foot and be a problem i mean we even heard denard wilson addressing some of the issues now and that might particularly for one player, but if that stands for everybody on both sides of the football,
Starting point is 00:13:28 jumping off sides, pre-snap penalties. I mean, it's just, you know, those things, they just can't happen because it's hard enough to win in the National Football League as it is, guys. And when you do things that show to be undisciplined, that's a problem. And they keep mentioning it, you know, and I understand, hey, look, until they fix it, it's going to be a problem. They probably need to keep mentioning just to keep it on the forefront of their minds. But at the end of the day, the teams that are championship teams, the teams that win divisions, the teams that go to Super Bowls, they do less creating mistakes and doing things before the ball is snapped or even during the play that create negative plays than the ones that do.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So they have to clean that up. And you've got to be smarter. You've got to be, I don't know, more focused. Whatever it is, it's going to take them to be able to understand that these negative plays are one of the things. that's really hurting their progress, they've got to get it fixed. And Brad, just to add some statistical context to what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:14:29 going into last night's games, I haven't checked since the Monday night football games, but the Titans were last in the NFL or worst in the NFL with 28 flags thrown. 23 of those had been accepted, five decline. Nine pre-snap penalties out of those 23 that have been called, and the Titans have a net loss of 190. yards due to penalties. That's 20 more yards than the second worst team in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:14:56 They are bleeding out there with the penalties. And Brad, as you know, in the NFL, there's so much going on. 11 guys have to do their job. It's so easy for one guy to mess up and ruin the whole play. The teams that don't beat themselves often are the teams that find a way to win, the team that makes less mistakes. Not the team that goes crazy and makes the craziest plays. it's the team that beats themselves the least
Starting point is 00:15:20 that often can win these games with how it's all one-score games. So those numbers really stand out through two weeks, you're right, and you can't overcome that. Yeah, you know, real quick, I remember Jeff saying to us at one point in time,
Starting point is 00:15:32 Jeff Fisher, if you don't know what I'm talking about, he was like, hey, if you make a mistake in a game, this is the worst thing, and if you're talking about one mistake, and everybody kind of looked around and were like, no, okay, so what if you made one mistake, and you made one mistake?
Starting point is 00:15:48 and you made one mistake and you made one mistake and you made and he just went around the entire room and it culminating you're thinking dang that really makes sense right you just think about one mistake but when collectively a bunch of people are doing it there's the 28 and that's the problem you know so just trying to figure out ways to limit that now there are having occasions when the same guy's getting called you know and you decide the football and you're like man they've got really got to do something about that, you know, having a talk with him or making sure that he understands exactly what he needs to be doing schematically and, you know, just competitively to not be a liability. So at the end of the day, man, we got to stop shooting ourselves in foot.
Starting point is 00:16:32 That's exactly what my tighten down was going to be is this team continuously, even since last year, finds ways to beat themselves. You mentioned the 28 total flags, but 23 accepted penalties for 193 yards. I know there are going to be holding calls in the NFL, right? There are going to be defensive pass interference calls. That's inevitable. But it's the pre and post snap stuff that's the most maddening because that's controlling the controllables.
Starting point is 00:16:58 That's head coach Brian Callahan talked about yesterday in his press conference. You just can't do that when you're the Titans. And especially it's more maddening when you think about this entire off season was meant to eliminate that kind of stuff. I'd like to see what the number would have been had they not had an off season. which was so emphasized, and that was so emphasized in the off-season program. Well, Julian, I hate to do this, but if you spend the entire off-season preaching a message and you come out and historically fail in the first two weeks,
Starting point is 00:17:29 the only question that I can ask is, are the players receiving the message? Are they tuning out the message? Why did the message fall on deaf ears? I hate to keep going back to Callahan, but we're 18 minutes in, and we haven't really mentioned Brian Callahan, but if you spend all season preaching something to your team and they come out and do what they've done so far in that area, it's fair to wonder if the message is being received.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Okay, but you know what? The message is what? Doing the right thing. The message is not making mistakes. Why do I have to tell you not to do that? That's dumb. I shouldn't have to tell you how to be a professional. I shouldn't have to tell you that the mistakes you make are killing this team.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It is my job to remind you that these things are hurting us. If you go out there and do it, is that a death message? Are you kidding me? I shouldn't have to tell you to not do things that are causing problems for this team. You know what they are. You know you can't grab a guy when you're in coverage. You know when a running back is running by you and you're on offensive line, you need to let go if you got a handful of claw. Now, there are one play that I don't agree with at all, and that was the punt return for a touchdown where Bunchman got called for the blind side. Yeah, the blind side back.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I believe that's just the dumbest thing. Yeah, it's a terrible. But that's an anomaly because we've seen there are more situations where the Titans were at fault than there were, you know, not being at fault. But at the end of the day, if I'm preaching to you all offseason about the things that you need to do to be better and you don't do them, that's the right thing to do. I'm not making up science here. I'm not asking you to do you to do algorithms. I'm just asking you to do what football players know in their mind is the right thing to do. Go out there and do your damn job.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You sound like Peter Skoronsky in the locker room. Peter Skoronsky has fed up with the pre-snap penalties, man. His interview in the locker room this week, he's just like, we just can't do it. Like, we just, like, it's a pre-snap. Like, you can't jump all sides. Like, you can't fall start. You got to get lined up.
Starting point is 00:19:26 He was very frustrated. And I think I resonate with that a lot, Pete. So I appreciate Skoranski for that frustration. One guy that the Titans fans maybe aren't frustrated about is Mr. Cam Ward on the other side of the break. We're going to talk about him, what we want to see from him next and how he can develop in the Titan system under Brian Callahan. That's next in the Titan Squad Show.
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Starting point is 00:20:31 the day, the highlight real pass to Elyle-Manner that Bihop talked about in the first segment. certainly the Cam Ward experience what do you like from what you've seen from Cam Ward so far and what do you hope to see I guess as he goes into week three against Indianapolis I'll go first Tyler um Cam Ward's development I'm excited about I mean he is by no means the finished product not even close but what he has you know done is made some extraordinary plays with his arm his legs he's learning how to navigate the pocket while under duress He doesn't have a problem understanding defenses. He needs to make decisions a hair quicker, obviously, and guys need to get separation so he can let go to the ball.
Starting point is 00:21:14 But, you know, and better blocking wouldn't be a bad deal either. But for the most part, he hasn't been an issue as far as like making mistakes that you're saying, yeah, Lee, that guy's a rookie. Because I think he's playing beyond that. Now, he's dealing with sometimes a difficult pocket. He's dealing with sometimes guys that can't get separation. he does need to need to make those decisions faster a little bit faster so in that way he can be confident to let that ball go and know that the receivers are going to be where they're supposed to be and we're in accordance to where he's throwing the football but all in all I like his command
Starting point is 00:21:50 of the offense I like his leadership intangibles those are things that you just you know you have to work on sometimes as a NFL player but he seems to have you know really taking control of those things from the very beginning so I like his development, but like I said, he is by no means a finished product, guys. Yeah, 100%, not finished yet, but, you know, like you're saying, we're not expecting that. I want to compare it to a guy in Minnesota and J.J. McCarthy, who he's injured now. He's probably going to be out a couple of weeks. Don't want to see that.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But all the conversation in Minnesota, and I've talked with Luke Braun, who covers the Vikings for Locked on Locked on Locked on Vikings, McCarthy has struggled with the playbook. He struggled spitting out the plays and some of the lengthy stuff that, you know, know, Kevin O'Connell wants to do in Minnesota, getting guys in a huddle, operating, you know, being a professional. And Cam Ward hasn't had any problems with that stuff. And I've been kind of talking about that since the preseason and through week one. Yeah, he might be a little tick slow on certain reads, and it may take him a little time. Some of the stuff he's seeing for the first time ever, some of these coverages, some of these alignments, how teams play certain
Starting point is 00:22:55 routes, the rules that the defenders have, where they do different things based on what they see. A lot of this stuff is the first time he's ever seen it. And he's, just doesn't seem to be overwhelmed by it. He doesn't seem to be panicked. He is, you know, his blood pressure is staying the same all the time. His heart rate is staying the same all the time. And I can accept a rookie. Oh, I didn't quite see that guy next time we run that play.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Next time I rep it. I'll see it. I'll rip it. Hey, you know, I got to be stronger in the pocket. These guys are stronger. They're more aware when they're pass rushing me to rake the ball out of my hands and stuff like that. I can accept some of those mistakes. But I would be more worried if Cam looked rattled. If he looked up, if he was running around with happy feet and, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:39 he wasn't able to get the team lined up. He wasn't able to split out the play call. Brian Callahan has said, we need to get the plays in faster to him. It's not that Cam can't translate that to his guys and get everybody lined up and be the leader of the offense. He's shown that. So the leadership qualities, the poise, just being a professional quarterback and running a professional operation,
Starting point is 00:24:02 Cam has done a great job from those standpoint. So getting through your progressions a little quicker, under-calibrating when to hold the ball and hunt for the deep play and when to just take your profit and move on. I can be okay with all those growing pains, but he's really checked the boxes from just looking like a professional quarterback. And when you hear about other quarterbacks who had an entire red shirt year to learn in offense
Starting point is 00:24:24 and have the continuity that everyone wants for Cam, and that guy is struggling and some people are throwing on the tin hat and saying, you know, they might have just be doing a pseudo-benching for J.J. McCarthy because he's not running the offense well enough mentally. You've got to be impressed with Cam not having those problems in his true rookie season without any kind of redshirt ear. You know, I had a friend text me who didn't watch the Titans games
Starting point is 00:24:48 and he's not a Titans fan by any means, but he's a follower of Cam Ward. And he was looking at the box score. And, you know, box score watching, you see, oh, man, he hasn't had 200 yards yet and his completion percentages are at about 50, 50, 1% or so, but you can't put really stock into those numbers, considering he has been sacked 11 times. Penalties have been an issue, which puts them in tough spots.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And then you think about the completion percentage, he's had some receivers who want some plays back and have some drops. And so you take all that in consideration. Cam's not really done anything to hurt this team. You're also considering these are probably two of the best past rushes he'll face all year long. Denver was the best going back to last year, and the Rams are no slouch either. And so he's kind of really jumping in the deep end of the pool and learning how to swim here, which I think is only going to help Cam moving forward.
Starting point is 00:25:36 My question to you is with all the concerns maybe that we've talked about around Cam, is there a concern that it may stunt his growth in development because we can't really see the full Cam Ward experience because of some of the issues around him? That's the problem for every quarterback in the National Football League. Well, first off, we give the quarterbacks way too much credit and way too much blame. It's just the way it works
Starting point is 00:25:59 because they're the most identifiable figure on the football field. But at the end of the day, quarterbacks don't kick field goals. They don't tackle anybody. They don't return punts. They don't do all the things that the team is required to do. They don't pass block. They don't run block.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They don't do all these things, right? But what Cam has done is he spreads the football around. I think he has three receivers that in this last game were targeted six times. Calvin Ridley had three receptions for 57 yards. Ellick Iyer Manor had four receptions for 56 yards. Chick had four catches for 35 yards and it went down from there. But at the end of the day, a quarterback is no better than the people around him, period.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Because if a quarterback's running for his life, like we saw in this last Super Bowl, Patrick Wilhelm Holmes, as great as we think he is, he was nothing. And those problems still exist, which is the reason why they're having a terrible start. And it's starting to even have an internal collapse, maybe. You know, look at Travis Kelsey, his body language and how things are not going their way. I bring all that up to say,
Starting point is 00:27:00 Cam is only as good as the guys that he's throwing the football to and the guys that are protecting him because those are the ones that allow him to take advantage of a skill set that God gave him, right? So at the end of the day, that's what it's about. It's about the team collectively. I say team, not just the offense. Because if a defense goes out there
Starting point is 00:27:18 and just gets ran through like a sieve and puts points upon the board, then that means that the offense and Cam Ward have to go out there and respond. And if they don't, what happens? the distance widens itself, and that's a serious problem. So at the end of the day, it's about Cam continuing his development, but then the people around him also getting better because they need to,
Starting point is 00:27:38 to allow him to be successful. Yeah, Brad, you're right, because if the other team gets up, well, then you can't run the ball because the game script is against you. Now the pass rushers pin their ears back. Now you're not able to get into play action and use the run game like we were talking about in the first segment. Like it all goes together. football is the ultimate team sport
Starting point is 00:27:57 that's why people say that because it truly is altogether but I want to say this Julian if you don't mind go back to 1124 a.m. or 1024 a.m. for you Jeremy G. said cross-body don't do it again. Do you guys did nobody watch Cam Ward
Starting point is 00:28:13 does nobody know what kind of player he is? He is a gunslinger if you think that Cam Ward isn't going to make those kind of throws and Cam Ward isn't going to make those kind of plays and take those kind of risks I'm sorry but you're in for a rude awakening because Cam Ward is a gunslinger. He's going to keep making cross-body throws.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He's going to keep extending plays and telling his wide receiver to go here and forcing it into small windows. That is the way that he plays. And what you need is you need that to not bite you more than it helps you. But that stuff is not going away. And I saw a lot of people that that's a bad throw. He can't keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He's going to keep doing that. He's going to keep doing that. And that he's always done that. That is how he plays. But I want to say this. Everybody's right. that, you know, Cam Ward is going to be as good as everything around him because it's a team sport. But I personally don't believe this is a Marcus Marriota situation. And I, I, Marcus
Starting point is 00:29:05 deserves his credit in Titans history. But I have to be honest, I was never a believer in Marcus Mariotta. I don't think mentally, he was tough enough to be the leader of a franchise and be a franchise quarterback. I don't think he could hold up. And I think Cam Ward can. So we could talk about ruining Cam Ward, this and that. And he's not going to be the player that we need him to be if his supporting cast isn't good enough. But I'm sorry, I don't buy that Cam Ward's confidence is going to be ruined or he's going to get run into the dirt. If it doesn't work here and for some reason, the Titans don't keep him around, I think he's going to go be successful somewhere else. So I don't buy this. He's going to be ruined. He just may not
Starting point is 00:29:40 hit his potential if the rest of the team isn't good. Well, you know what? And to say this, his journey has made him who he is. Yes. It's not like this guy was a five-star, has had success his entire career, went to Ohio State, won championships, has never experienced any sort of uphill battle. This dude started out at Incarnate Way. Word. Correct. Yeah. This guy transferred to Miami. This guy was at Washington. This guy, his journey to where he's at right now, have built up those calluses for him to say, you know what? First of up, I believe in myself. Yes. I believe in myself. So at the end of the day, he's not going to be rattled by, you know, things that don't go his way. Because guess what? It's entirely.
Starting point is 00:30:21 life hasn't gone his way. Would he have liked to just jump right into a power by a program and won a national championship and been a high as been a trophy winner and all this stuff? Of course. But that wasn't his path. You know, so at the end of the day, Cameron is right where he needs to be as far as understanding the role that he plays and just how to get this team where it needs to be. I believe in his mental fortitude. Like I just don't think he's going to crack under the pressure no matter what happens. Doesn't mean. mean, he's going to be great, but I believe in his will that he's built up, like you're saying, the callous there. And I just don't think that Cam can be ruined per se.
Starting point is 00:31:01 No, and to your point, Brad, guess what? At all those places, he dealt with different skill levels, different coaches, different locker rooms, and he put up numbers in every single one of those places, too. He reached his potential at each of those places. And as someone who covered Cam at Washington State, he did those throws maybe two or three times a game. It was, it's just And also, I'm glad you mentioned that, Julian, because that play itself was coordinated to a degree. The play broke down, can't roll to his right. He knew Elet was running across the back of the end zone, wasn't trying to draw attention to him finally getting open. Then he found him and threw it across his body.
Starting point is 00:31:38 So he intentionally did that to at least keep the defense in the same spot for just enough time for Elet to get himself open and make a tremendous catch in the end zone for his first touchdown in the end of that. I keep saying he's Neo in the Matrix man Like he's seeing the code Come down in the screen Yeah he's like he is inside of the program And gets it and you know Those are risky plays But not as risky as they are for like
Starting point is 00:32:04 A Will Levis because Cam It's going slower for him His spatial awareness and understanding And ability to read the field Brian Callahan just talked about this On Monday at the press conference That Cam sees the field so well So you're right
Starting point is 00:32:17 That wasn't just oh crap Alex over there I'm going to try it He literally watch him during the play. He is running to his right, drawing the defense that way, and then points Elek to go to the left because he knows their space over there, which decreases the risk of an risky play. So I just think, well, yeah, Jeremy, you're right. I don't want to see it bite him.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Eventually it is going to bite him because the defense gets paid too. But these risky plays for Cam are not as risky as they are for other quarterbacks because his special talent is the spatial awareness. The Neo of the Titans taking the two-tone blue pills. So there we go. All right. He's number one. He's the one.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We're going to talk about the other side of the ball, the defense, what we've liked so far about the defense, and maybe what needs some tightening up on DeNard Wilson's crew over there and big Jeff Simmons and all of those guys. That's when the Titans Squad show returns. Keep it here. All right. The NFL season is here, and Fandul is making sure you're ready for kickoff with a can't miss offer. Right now, new customers can bet just for. five dollars and if your bet wins you'll get three hundred dollars in bonus bets to use across
Starting point is 00:33:22 the app maybe you want to bet some player props with cam lord or um set your fantasy lineup every single day it makes every game more exciting whether you're watching your team or just keeping an eye on on your fantasy team so um you ready to play download the fan duel app now by visiting fanduel.com to get started that's fanduel.com to place your first five dollar bet wanted to talk about the defense a little bit. You know, you give up 33 points to the Rams, but really you kept your team in it in that first half. You know, Cody Barton comes up with the interception just before halftime. It leads to you having the lead, but then it kind of falls over in the second half. What have you liked about the defense through these first two games
Starting point is 00:34:07 and maybe some things that you're looking for them to shore up and work out the kinks a little bit? Tyler, you go first. Well, I honestly think that the secondary has done. a pretty good job. I mean, I know Legerius Sneed had a bad second half and I was critical of Sneed online pointing out that he did not have as good of a game as maybe a lot of people thought that he had because he had a couple
Starting point is 00:34:29 pass breakups on Devante Adams. Now, Devonte Adams is a tough matchup but Legerius Sneed got paid and got traded for to be able to win those matchups. He was dominant for the Chiefs before the Titans traded for him in those kind of matchups. But overall, you look at Xavier Woods.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Xavier Woods is not a popular name that people like to discuss but he's been excellent for the Titans and Jarvis Friendly Jr. had all those penalties in the first week but he was pretty clean out there last week and you didn't hear his name called and for a cornerback, that's a pretty good job.
Starting point is 00:35:02 The reality is this Tennessee Titans pass rush is terrible and you know what? We knew that coming in they're not going to get any pressure on the quarterback and Brad has pointed it out every squad show that the defense is so symbiotic. You cannot be a great secondary if you're not getting help from the pass rush and you can't be a great pass rush if guys are wide open.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Like, it just has to work together. And the reality is, I think, that the secondary has done far better than what the pass rush has helped them with. And while it's not going to be perfect because the pass rush isn't helping enough, I think the secondary overall has been pretty solid. And I know that Puka and Devante Adams had good games and all that. I know that that's the case. But again, there's no pressure at,
Starting point is 00:35:44 all on the quarterback. And the Titans actually blitzed less this week against the 37-year-old Matthew Stafford, which is a bit confusing to me. But regardless, there's no pressure on the quarterback. It makes it tough on the secondary. And I think any success that the defense has had has been because the secondary is actually playing pretty decently. Yeah. I like this this team's ability to get turnovers. You know, we saw in the first game, they got Bo Nix a couple of times. Cody Barton, super smart cat just drops off into coverage and Matthew Stafford's throws in the ball like he's wearing a Rams jersey. So it's like, you know, you see their ability to get turnovers, even separate ball carriers from the football in creating fumbles. So they do have
Starting point is 00:36:26 the ability, I think, to give their offense more opportunities by giving the ball back to them. You know, but like you said, Tyler, if you can't get in the face of the quarterback, if you can't disrupt his timing. If you can't, you know, do those things that obviously disrupt an offense, then it's going to be a long day. And the worst part about it fellows is the longer that a defense is on the field, the worse it gets. Because that offense just loves to have those long play drives where they're eating up clock and converting first downs and the defense starts to get fatigued. And they're, you know, because it's hard rushing the pass or it's hard trying to defend the run when they continue to just come at you over.
Starting point is 00:37:08 and over and over again and that's been the problem now admittedly they're not healthy because we know that jeff came in comes into every game knowing he's going to get double teamed and it's been effective i mean think he had two tackles one of them was a solo tackle um didn't have any sacks in this last game amani hooker was the only one they had a sack i think they've got what two sacks on the season right big jeff had one last in the NFL yeah so uh the fact that they didn't have tavondry sweat that That does have an effect, too, because, you know, Tavondre, at least not only does he take up space, but he takes up blockers that can potentially open up things. In other words, Big Jeff is better when Tavondry's on the field with him.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And you can tell an obvious difference when he's not. So health can also be considered in this whole situation. But for the most part, I think winning the line of scrimmage has been a problem. And there have been instances where either Kairun Williams or that Kaurum kid or whatever else was running right between the guards. you know what I mean so you know they have to be better at getting off the field on third down creating those down in distances that defenses do to us that make them have to pass the football in other words third and eight third and ten you're going to drop back you know that's that's what you would want as a defense so it allows them to then get off the field if you create those
Starting point is 00:38:28 down in distances but if you're dealing with third and two third and three third and one that's hard to defend you know because there's so many things that an offensive can do. And that's been an issue, I think, for the Titans, getting off the field on third down. You know, after the game on Sunday, Jeff Simmons, something he talked about was they went into the locker room thinking that they were in a position to win that game, which they were. They were winning at halftime, and then the defense kind of rolls over a little bit in the second half. And it goes back to the pass rush thing, guys. You know, you couldn't put any pressure on Stafford. And when you can't do that, that guy's going to pick you apart. And Sean McVeigh is going to
Starting point is 00:39:02 pick you apart. You mentioned Sneed, Tyler. Devante Adams was targeted 13 times. And Sneed knows that it was a second game back fully healthy and they were going to pick on the dude. You know what I mean? They knew exactly where to go with the football in that second half on Sunday. And it showed. Now, the Colts bring in a different challenge with Jonathan Taylor. And I know prior to last year's game when Taylor busted him for almost 300 rushing yards, or it was 200 plus or whatever it was. The Titans have done a pretty good job with Taylor up until that point in the games that they played against him but that makes Devandre sweats health this week imperative
Starting point is 00:39:42 to be a run stopper up front for those guys. 100%. And look at the run defense totals. I want to give credit to Zach Lyons, who does a local radio show, but he put out a good tweet on Monday morning. And right now the Titans have given up 150 rushing yards per game. That's the fourth worst in the NFL, 5.5 rush yards per play.
Starting point is 00:40:02 fourth worst in the NFL, nine runs of 10 plus yards, sixth highest, 10.9% run stuff rate, which is the third lowest in the league, and 5.48 yards to go on third downs. That's the third least for opposing offenses. Like what Brad just said, the Rams were able to have success on early downs. They were able to run the football, and that set up third and short. And when you're in third and short and you're in third and medium, it's harder to get pressure on the quarterback. and when you have a guy like Stafford who's so smart, so quick, has seen so much, well, you know, he's going to be able to get the ball out of his hands quick
Starting point is 00:40:37 and then the pressure can't get there. So if the Titans don't get back to, I don't know where the term came from there, nobody runs on the Titans. I don't know where that came from or who was the first person to say that. But that has not been true for about, you know, 10 months straight now. And if the Titans don't get back to stopping the run, we know that they don't have great pass rush talent. We know that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, that's obvious. You could look at the roster and say They even told us We're going to have to push crush the pocket We're going to have to blitz We're going to have to get creative The only sack they got was a safety blitz With a Monty Hooker like we knew that coming in
Starting point is 00:41:11 But that plan has zero percent chance of working If you can't get people in the third and longs And give yourself a chance So if the Titans don't show up their run defense And I think sweat will play Brian Callahan last week before the game was like He just couldn't quite get there For Sunday
Starting point is 00:41:28 but I think Sweat will play in this game and he didn't really play that great in Denver if we're honest he had the good fourth down stop against Bo Nix but he did get moved around pretty good against Denver especially late in the game if Sweat doesn't play in this game they're gonna be in major trouble
Starting point is 00:41:44 and even if he does play in this game they're going to have to play better and we can't just blame the D-Line either the linebackers for the Titans were terrible and run defense in this game let's just call it what it is Cody Barton is a former defensive back he's having trouble getting off blocks
Starting point is 00:41:58 when lineman getting to his chest. Cedric Gray was out of position and overrunning his gaps multiple times in this game. So it's not just the D-line that is going to help. The safeties are not filling lanes. Amani Hooker's run defense has fallen off a cliff
Starting point is 00:42:11 in the last season in two weeks. I just don't know what's happened with his run defense when he was so solid early in his career. So it's everybody on defense that has to contribute to the run defense. But if they don't do that against the Colts, yeah, they are in for a long day
Starting point is 00:42:27 against a physical group up front. Yeah, and the Colts are just coming off a lucky but win. I don't buy the Colts. We can talk about that at the end of the show, but I'm sorry, I don't buy it. If you're looking at the schedule here for the Titans, at the beginning of the year, you told me, before any of these results that happened,
Starting point is 00:42:47 and the Colts were 2 and 0 or whatever, this is probably the game out of the first three that you're like, okay, the Titans, this might be their best chance to win. And it's even more imperative, given that it's a divisional game, how much of a sense of urgency you need for that, and you're going on the road for three straight after.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And there's no gimmies in the NFL, especially on the road when it comes to this Titans team. Is this maybe their best chance to get a W on the board before that road trip, you would say? It is for more than one reason. It is because of all what you just mentioned, but also they play them twice, right? And we know how this series goes back and forth
Starting point is 00:43:24 between these two teams. It's going to be harder later. on the season for them to go up to Indianapolis and get a must win, you know, especially if things are shaping up to where, you know, the team might be competitive or if we're just trying to play the role of a spoiler. So when you get the Colts in your building, you better take advantage of that because it's going to be hard as heck to go up to Indianapolis and get a W. And nobody wants to get swept in a series either in a divisional situation where you know the team better than anybody else does except for the other three teams in the league or the other
Starting point is 00:43:53 two teams, whatever. But for the most part, you've got to take advantage of getting that team in your building, creating a raucous environment because it is a divisional opponent and getting that first W. It'd be imperative, especially like you said, Tyler, before you go on the road and face tough environments for three weeks. You know, you think about those two, you can play two against the Colts, two against the Jags. We talked about it on this show before. I feel like you need to go three and one in those games against those teams, those four games. I know the Texans are 0 and 2 right now, and they've had a tough go over at the start of the year. I think they're going to ultimately figure things out.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But three and one, I mean, heck, even two and two, I'd be somewhat ecstatic because considering you went, what did you go into the division last year? One in five? Is it one in five in the division last year? Yeah, they had the one win against the Texans. In Houston. That was that game in Houston. So we'll see how it goes on Sunday for the Titans.
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Starting point is 00:45:50 half off your first year. That's 50% off your first year. That's 50% off your first here at monarchmoney.com with code locked on NFL. All right, fellas, so I wanted to take some questions and comments from the viewers. Here is one that we just got in from Nicholas Bradley right here. Does the film say that our wide receivers are consistently getting open, or are they consistently not getting open? I know you're going to do a film breakdown, Tyler, of Elyke-Ile-Manner, but at least from what you've seen from the wide receivers so far,
Starting point is 00:46:20 what do you think about Nicholas's question? I have not seen adequate separation, I would say, and I would point at Calvin Ridley. I've been very disappointed with Calvin Ridley's ability to separate. I don't quite know why he's unable to kind of get some space. Now, there are certain plays where guys are open, and Cam, you know, has not ripped it to them, but I could count those probably on my hand.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's not like there are wide open opportunities that the Titans are just missing out on out there. So I look around the NFL and I see, a lot of teams that are scheming guys wide open and getting explosive plays and everything's hard for the Titan. So I wouldn't say that the wide receivers are consistently getting open,
Starting point is 00:47:04 but I also don't think that that's 100% on the wide receivers as well. I haven't seen a lot of creativity from Brian Callahan and too often, and listen, you know, I played high school football. I learn. I'm just a passionate learner. I read other people. I watch other film breakdowns.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I try to learn as much as I possibly can. Brian Callahan has forgotten more about football than I will ever know. And I know that. But too often do I see the defense is calling the perfect coverage for what Callahan is trying to run.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So I don't know if that's, he's predictable and these defensive coordinators know what route combinations are coming. It can call the perfect play for it or whether it's just bad luck and it just is not working right now. But the Titans aren't, like the Titans run a ton of zone beaters,
Starting point is 00:47:51 while teams are playing man. They keep running that same trips concept where they have the deep sail route, they have the deep out route, and then they have the short sit-down route. And that's going to be good, that's a levels concept that's going to be good against a cover three zone
Starting point is 00:48:05 on the sideline. But teams are in man, and it's not open, you know what I mean? And then on a play in week one, they run a double post wheel concept against cover four, where cover four is perfect to take away those four vertical routes
Starting point is 00:48:17 because you have one guy for each of the vertical routes. So I don't know if that's, I'll be honest, I'm not, I don't know enough to know whether that's Callahan being predictable and defensive coordinators are easily scheming around what he's trying to do or whether it's just bad luck. I don't have a good answer, but far too often the defense is calling the perfect play to eliminate the advantage that the route concept is trying to create. I don't know if that's on Callahan or if it's luck.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I may never know, but it's certainly not good enough and I can't put it all on the wide receivers either. You know how they always say that there's a recipe for success, right? right recipe almost synonymous with making a good dish you got to have all the right ingredients for this to be a very very good meal the same day snacks that he makes time i do like to know the time the point i'm trying to make is that all of those ingredients make the dish and when you're talking about a quarterback that sees the routes can throw to the routes receivers that can get separation, make themselves available, an offensive line that gives the quarterback time to let plays develop those all of the recipes that go into this meal. So it all makes the combination
Starting point is 00:49:31 of things. I'm going to always put it on my guys up front because if there weren't big bodies up front rushing the quarterback, it'd be called seven on seven. How could this cam look in seven on seven? Looks phenomenal, right? Excellent. Yeah. Most quarterbacks would look phenomenal. But if you add that element of guys trying to knock you down or trying to get into your passing lane or be disruptive, now that makes you a completely different quarterback in accordance to what you're dealing with. So there's the offensive line responsibility. Two, I think that he has, Cam is trying to make a connection with his number one receiver, which should be Calvin Ridley at this point. But defenses know that too. So they're going to try and take Calvin Ridley away from him as an option.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Callie even mentioned that, which then makes you do. what go to the next progression and then the next progression and what is all this doing it's taking time time he doesn't have so when you're talking about why is the past game sometimes seem ineffective it's because the recipe isn't being put together for the meal to taste like it should all of those things play into the success of a play every single time cam looking through his progression of receivers his options, and once he sees what the defense is giving him to take advantage of what they're not covering, but that takes time. Receivers also have to understand, hey, look, they're taking me out of the situation. If I'm Calvin Ridley number zero, and I see that I'm in press coverage,
Starting point is 00:51:03 and then there's a safety role over the top of me, I'm being double teamed. Now, Cam has to recognize their double team in Calvin over there, so where's Eleg? You know, where's Chig? You know, where's Tyler? And that all takes time. So the big bodies up front have to allow him the time to go through and find the right receiver. And those receivers also have to understand, hey, look, this is what the defense is doing to us. That means that I'm probably more than likely going to be open. Let me see if I can't get some separation and then catch the ball and get some good yards at the catch. So it's a combination.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm open. I'm open, Brad. That's all I know. If he's looking for me, I'm open. I'm ready to go. You know why, Tyler? There's nobody's worried about covering you. you know what I do want to say though you make a great point that it's all together because there's a play on alec's tape from last week where he's running a drag route and he gets right past the defender and cam literally pump fakes because he's wide open and cam's ready to throw it to him but ellic doesn't turn his head around and recognize that he's open in the zone and he runs another five six yards and then finally turns around like the play is designed and cam had to get through pressure and throw it to him so it's like the wide receiver
Starting point is 00:52:13 created separation, but the wide receiver didn't notice that he created a separation. Cam had to get away from pressure and use his ability, and the play didn't go for as much as it could have gone for. Now, Titans fans will see that, oh, it's a five-yard completion to Ehrlich, but it could have been a 12-yard completion to Ehrlich if Ehrlich would have the awareness to recognize he was open in the zone. Now, as a guy who came from Canada and doesn't have the American football background, those sorts of mental things may take a little time for him to get, which is why he's so good on the sideline where it's real easy to just, hey, I'm one-on-one, let me make a play.
Starting point is 00:52:44 But all of that stuff is so important. And just the casual fan who sits down to watch the game on Sunday and never looks at the All-22, they would never understand that. So I guess that's why I try to bring that information to people. But at the end of the day, it is so connected that you can't just blame one person. Have you noticed how the national media cannot pronounce Ellet's name? Yeah, neither could Nick Colts, the offensive corner. He's, he's butchered his name.
Starting point is 00:53:10 He called him Ile Minore. like two weeks ago, and I looked at somebody and I was like, what the heck is an I-O-Manoor? Yeah, just say I-O, man. That's, I have decided that I'm just, I-O, I mean, last night on the NFL game, Chris Fowler couldn't even say John Sina. He called him John Sena, and it's like, how do you not know these names? It's just unbelievable. Names are tough, though.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I will say I-O-Manner has been, we could have put him in the tighten-up segment, too, as somebody who's out of the receivers, he's been absolutely excellent for the six-catchezer. 69 yards for a rookie. You see why he won that starting spot over Van Jefferson and why fans were so excited with the Travis Hunter game that he had in college and all of that stuff. I want to get to what Jeremy G. He's been hot in the chat today, but he's got a good question here. And it's something that a lot of fans have been pondering. I think Cali would be a better coach if he gave a play call, just my opinion. What do you guys think? I know we touched on it a little bit last week, but going back to Nick Holes, not to make fun, but that would lead him to calling plays.
Starting point is 00:54:10 and is it going to be that much better with him calling plays as opposed to Callahan? It's insanity, man. I just think that's so crazy. Everybody's like Callahan never called plays before. He should give up play calling. Well, Nick Holes has never called plays before. And what about Nick Holes makes you think that he's going to call plays? If they give up play calling duties, then you might as well just fire Brian Callahan at the same time.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That is what he was brought here to do. That is what he was brought here to do is design the offense, call the plays. We got to give Brian Callahan. time to get that right and I maybe Mike McCoy Mike McCoy used to be a head coach for the Chargers he's had offensive play I think if the Titans did move on from Brian Callahan during the season it'd be Mike McCoy who gets the interim head coaching job so you can kind of leave everybody in their spot but I just don't understand that's a grass is always greener type mindset where oh let's just try something else for the sake of trying something else
Starting point is 00:55:04 I don't special teams has been good defense has been good it's not like if Brian Callahan stops focusing on the offense and focuses more on the other stuff on the team that that's going to make the team better. The problem is the offense. That's what needs to get better. Not the other stuff. The argument is that Callahan, the other stuff is so bad and he's spending so much time with the offense that the other things are failing. But it's the total opposite of that. So all of the people, I don't think people quite understand what goes into the play sheet each week. These guys are sitting in a room and talking about the plays. Mike McCoy, Nick Holtz, Brian Callahan.
Starting point is 00:55:40 They are all discussing what plays are going to be good and what situations these plays are going to be good in. So if you're mad about the play calling, be mad about the entire offensive staff, not just Callahan. People just don't understand how this works. 100%. I mean, ding, ding, Ding, Tyler.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Think about that. Thank you. It's not like Cali has the playbook by himself. And nobody else gets to take a look at it. And he's not telling anybody what he's thinking about and he just throws plays out there. they're practicing them they're going over what works even cam ward probably has some sort of input as to what hey what are you most appreciate that doing what do you do the best right and let's
Starting point is 00:56:17 work on those things so what you see is the finished product of everybody on that offense trying to figure out what works now it doesn't guarantee that on sunday it's going to work out like it did in practice or in the meeting room but by design they're all collectively having some sort of contribution as to what actually could possibly work so you're right 100% man. He's not keeping this thing a secret. And at this point, he doesn't have Andy Reed sitting over his shoulders as an offensive coordinator. Josh McDaniel isn't, you know, his quarterback coach. So at the end of the day, he is the best option to call plays and to put his quarterback in the best position. So be careful what you wish for.
Starting point is 00:56:57 You know, the way I look at it with Callahan is you guys mentioned given some time this season. This season, I'm really, even though I know the record is what, three and, what is it, three and 18? three and three and sixteen something like that um man you know that that's tough to to see that on a piece of paper however i'm kind of looking at this as his first year because last year it was so difficult to kind of evaluate him because the quarterback obviously was an issue offensive line was an issue last year special teams was a mess and it was really just hard to to kind of see what you really have in brian callahan but you have the quarterback now you know you on paper at least you invested the front office invested in the offensive line
Starting point is 00:57:37 now you drafted some pretty solid rookie wide receivers and brought in some vets so maybe just a little bit of time it is only week two but but yeah i i think keeping callahan as the play caller at least for right now maybe it's too premature to uh to move him off of that my last question for the day it's an offensive line one because i know um i think i've said this before written in uh brad's contract we have to talk about the offensive line a couple times every show um from m night do we have anyone to trade to get a better and reliable left tackle, or should we just wait until the next season to address? Or, you know, I could say this to M-night. I mean, Dan Moore could just play better. He did play better in this game. He did play better than he did week one. Was it
Starting point is 00:58:20 great? Was it perfect? No, it wasn't. But Dan Moore did play better. Guys, they're not going to be able to get out of his contract until after next year anyway. So, like, you can't just make trades and the Titans aren't a team that should be buying anybody right now, anything. If anything, we're going to get a month and a half from now and the Titans are going to be selling a little bit so like it's just not going to you know take play calling away from Brian Callahan trade for this guy
Starting point is 00:58:47 fire this guy some people just say some things that just go look at the finances go to spottrack.com go to over the cap.com and look at what would happen if you got rid of Dan Moore or if you traded some of these guys just financially speaking it doesn't make logical sense that I don't mean to be rude and crass
Starting point is 00:59:05 and condescending. But this isn't, man. You can't just trade your left tackle in the middle of the season and add a third round draft pick and go get somebody from some... There are no good linemen in the league. Like there's not...
Starting point is 00:59:17 Other teams are screaming for depth on the offensive line. So it's not like someone's going to give you a good left tackle when they need a good left tackle. It just doesn't happen. Listen, if Dan Moore were a great left tackle, why would Pittsburgh let him go?
Starting point is 00:59:32 They wouldn't. That doesn't have it. Right. Only available linemen out there are ones that are expendable. That's the way it works. This team just realistically doesn't have five starters up front. It doesn't. It hasn't for a couple years now. They moved JC over the right because they may have been able to find a tackle that they thought could come in in free agency and can hold down a left tackle spot. I'm not impressed. And when you look at the take, as a defense and you're playing the Titans the next week. week. How do you feel? Hey, guys, we can get off this week. Yeah. That's the first thing I'm saying. Man, licking their chops. As a defense, I'm thinking, these cats right here, they're susceptible.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So I don't like our chances on the edge. It does seem like at this point, and I hate throwing price tags in the mix. It is what it is. But they overpaid. The overpaid for a guy that, if you think about it, was the Steelers most problematic offensive linemen, and we bought them. why do we buy them because the Steelers didn't want him and ultimately that's what it comes down to so uh i like jc's progress unfortunately he's dealing with an injury right now and he didn't play too bad uh against Denver matter of fact he didn't play bad at all he had that one gaff where he's looking inside the ball was snapped and also he gives up pressure and albeit in the damn end zone but he took the worst time to have a terrible play but for the most part consistently he's been
Starting point is 01:01:03 doing it. I liked watching him and Peter Skoronski developed themselves as the weeks went by last year. So I'm not saying this guy couldn't play left tackle, but at the end of the day, they need to find five starters up front, not just four, not just three, but five starters because it just takes one to be a problem. And defenses will key in on that and they will keep attacking that, which is a liability until they finally get paid dirt. And that's what's been going on week after week. And Brad, you want an example of that? I watch the tape three. times yesterday. You know what the Rams did? They lined up three guys on
Starting point is 01:01:37 the left side of the offensive line to force the Titans into one-on-one match-ups on the left, and then they knew that that would create a one-on-one for Jono Juku on the other side if the back wasn't there. So they were literally flooding the left side so that the protection slides that way so that they could get a one-on-one matchup
Starting point is 01:01:53 with John O'Juku on the other side. It was really good stuff from Chris Schuller, the defensive coordinator of the Rams, quite honestly. Is this the week where the Titans get their first win? I told you. It's a simple question but a loaded question. I get it.
Starting point is 01:02:11 They have to. They have to. I think they do that. This is the way this thing is going to go. They're going to make Danny Dimes look like the guy that was in New York. Yes. Or Danny Dimes is going to be the next iteration of Sam Donald. Donald.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You know what I'm saying? He's either going to look like, God, dang with this guy is awesome. Where has he been in his entire career? making like you remember when um georgia tech played i don't you might remember georgia tech played colorado and dion sand at the end of the game said hey man we made that quarterback like a heism trophy candidate i mean that's the reality so the titans can do one of two things they can make daniel jones look like the guy that is on his 13 you know as as one of the highly picked quarterbacks coming out in his draft or they can make him look like man that's all this guy needed
Starting point is 01:02:59 was a new lease in life. He just needed a new environment. And this is now we're seeing him flourish on Shane Steichen's system. So I hope it's the first part, you know, where they're just like really confusing him, make him throw into coverage and, and you know what? How about we get some sacks this week? How about we dial up some pressure? You know, how about we just make him uncomfortable in the pockets? And that way it speeds up his clock and he gets moving. Now, I will say if you if you pass rush Daniel Jones he can't beat you with his legs because the guy is pretty fast so if all of a sudden the rush lanes people get out of them and green pasture starts opening it up this dude will take off and I hope that's not the case
Starting point is 01:03:40 because they got to have people that can spy and be smart but at the end of the day man they can make sure they can make Daniel Jones look like a chump or they can make him look like a champ Tyler Do they get their first plan or not? I got to believe before the season I said that they would find a way to win this game
Starting point is 01:04:00 I do not believe that Daniel Jones is the second coming of a Sam Darnold I just don't buy it I think that the Colts pass rush is not good
Starting point is 01:04:11 that is one of the big weaknesses of their team they've tried and tried and tried in the pass rush is not good they have a worst pass rush grade on pro football focused in the Titans
Starting point is 01:04:19 All right, and their number one pass rusher has five pressures on the year. Jeffrey Simmons had seven in one game. So I have to believe, I have to believe that the Titans offense, they put up 19 points against the Rams front. I think the Titans score over 20 points this week. I think the Titans do find a way to win. I'm going to choose to believe that they get it done, and we're going to feel way different about the Titans
Starting point is 01:04:43 and the division possibilities after this weekend. Let's go, tighten up. There you go. I do think the Titans are going to get a win. too i think uh this could get that game for the offensive line i think that would be that would be nice to see and give cam ward some time all right remember we are here twice a week every tuesday and game day here on the titan squad show and the locked on titans um and the locked on podcast network you can see tyler rollins show every day locked on titans being every day or to that
Starting point is 01:05:08 but for now i'm julian minnesill and that's brad hopkins and tyler roland we'll see you guys on game day Thank you.

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