Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Titans Talk Pt. 2: Returning to Nashville -- Audio Highlights for Brown, Swaim, Firkser & Sambrailo
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Welcome to the Locked On Titans podcast.
I am your host, Tyler Rowland.
Titans fans, it is a Friday edition of the Locked On Titans podcast.
And to cap off our week here on the show,
we are going to dive into part two of Free Agent Titans Talk.
Now, on yesterday's show, on the Thursday edition, we heard all of the Zoom highlights, the audio highlights,
from the new additions to the Tennessee Titans.
Guys like Bud Dupree, guys like Janoris Jenkins.
But on today's show, we are going to hear from the Tennessee
Titans who returned to Nashville.
That's going to be linebacker Jayon Brown, the tight ends Jeff Swaim and Anthony Ferkser,
and offensive tackle Ty Sambrillo.
So excited to dive into that audio with you guys, of course, courtesy of TennesseeTitans.com.
But I do want to take this moment to let you guys know about what's lying ahead here on
the Locked on Titans podcast.
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But we have some excellent and interesting audio to dive into today on the Locked on
Titans podcast.
Let's get it.
When the offseason began for the Tennessee Titans, one of the biggest issues that they had was the amount of key in-house free agents who could be departing the team.
Think about Jonu Smith, Corey Davis, Desmond King.
They have actually signed with new teams and will not be returning.
And it looks like big name free agent from last year, Jadavion Clowney, will not be returning
either.
But there is one man, the man who lived, the boy who lived, and that is Jayon Brown.
Jayon Brown did return to the Tennessee Titans on a quote-unquote three-year, five-million-dollar
deal that really works out to be a one-year, three-and-a-half-million-dollar deal.
But either way, Jayon Brown is back in the fold, and a lot of that had to do with the
depressed salary cap.
So let's hear directly from Jayon Brown on his path to returning to the Tennessee Titans.
It was a good process.
Had multiple offers and decided to come back,
to come back home to Tennessee and try to come to, try to come back here for a Superbowl for another year.
And I'm excited to come back with this coaching staff and,
and with the guys and we added some new pieces and I'm excited to get back
there on the field and, and just play.
I love the Titans and I love that I got the opportunity to come back.
But, you know, with the salary cap being down, I do know my value.
And with the salary cap being down, I see a lot of guys out there
that took one-year deals knowing that the TV money is about to get renewed
and there's going to be better opportunities for for free agency this coming for the upcoming year. And so,
you know but right now I'm happy with what I'm, what I got with Tennessee.
And when the opportunity comes for, for the big bucks,
I will definitely be there.
I just want to say this,
Jay on Brown is going to get paid $3.5 million to play football this year. I would definitely be there. went and think you wait you work your whole life Jayon Brown's been playing football his whole
life he struggled through college when you're not getting paid and we're not going to have the
amateur debate right now but it's clearly not the kind of money you get in the NFL you go through
your rookie contract you finally make it through your first four years and you get a chance to dip
into free agency and then this happens to you and you have to take a one-year deal worth 3.5 million dollars
when Jayon Brown's probably worth about eight to nine million dollars per season for about three
to four years it's disappointing so I know that he's getting paid 3.5 million dollars to play a
child's game this year and there's not a lot disappointing when you frame it in that way
but considering what he should be getting paid on the market in a normal year he has to
be a little disappointed if he has a down year he gets injured again that could impact his market so
I do feel bad for the guy and Jayon's one of the my favorite personalities from the John Robinson
era and I don't know to me maybe I'm reading too much into it but I feel like you can hear the
disappointment in his voice I certainly hope he has a good year this year and is able to capitalize on the market like he plans to. But with that, you know,
contract stuff out of the way, I just wanted to make sure you guys heard that. Maybe you hear
the disappointment that I hear, but now it's time to focus on the defense. And how does Jayon Brown
think the Titans can turn this defense around? As fast as we can.
Just going back in there and, you know, starting from the basics
and getting our techniques and fundamentals down
and eventually getting that chemistry on the practice field
to communicate and to just get to know how each one of us plays
and just plays off of our strengths
and getting to the quarterback and getting the balls in our hands.
So I'm looking forward to what this defense is going to do this year,
and I'm excited for it.
If the Titans defense is going to turn things around,
we're going to need a big improvement from defensive coordinator Shane Bowen,
and Jayon talks about his thoughts on Shane
Bowen um uh static he's a he's a really good guy really really smart coach and uh he knows what it
takes to win and and so does coach Rabel and the rest of the guys on our staff and it's just it's
just uh you know it's an exciting time so I'm happy for him, and I'm looking forward to the play calling
and, you know, just getting after with the guys.
And I'm very happy for Shane.
He's a very smart coach, and it's well-deserved.
I really hate to be a Debbie downer, guys, but let's be honest.
None of you guys are going into your job today and telling your
boss he's not smart and he's not qualified for the job just wouldn't really be a smart move
even for a football player so didn't really expect to hear anything but positive comments
from Jayon but Jayon did get a tough question at the end of his press conference about the
communication issues that were well documented and spoken of quite a bit by players on the
defense, and Jayon Brown is the green dot.
You're going to hear that term in his answer.
The green dot is the guy with the green dot on the back of his helmet, and he's the one
who gets the play call in his ear from the defensive coordinator
from one of the coaches whoever's relaying the information so it's Jayon's job to get everybody
in position communicate the call and make sure everyone on the defense is on the same page so
if people talk about communication issues it is possible that Jayon Brown could take that
personally and he speaks about that oh uh Brown could take that personally, and he speaks about that. Oh, definitely got to take that personal, and it will be fixed.
And I guarantee you that.
And I'm just looking excited going out there, you know,
having the green dot again and just getting guys lined up right.
And so we all want to make sure we're all on the same page.
It's a team effort, and that definitely will be fixed.
Well, I don't know about you guys,
but if you have to fix something, it means it was broken.
So to me, that's the clearest acknowledgement that I've heard
in quite some time that, yeah, there were communication issues
on the defense last year.
I mean, we knew that, but it's another thing to hear it
acknowledged there, and I give Jayon Brown credit. He's saying that's my job and that will be fixed.
So I certainly hope so. But we are going to dive into the offensive side of the ball for the rest
of the show. And we are going to hear from two guys who will be incredibly critical to the Titans
offense coming up this year. and that is the two tight
ends that have returned, Anthony Ferkser and Jeff Swain.
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We are going to dive into the tight end position here.
We have Jeff Swaim.
It's time to play the Swaim.
And Anthony Ferkser.
So going to dive into their audio highlights, courtesy of TennesseeTitans.com.
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But we're going to dive into, I think Jeff Swaim is an incredibly interesting guy.
Not only do I love his play on the field but uh he had some really good answers in his press
conference in my opinion we're going to dive into those right now so number one just how excited is
Jeff Swaim to be back with the Titans obviously I'm really excited to be back and um I've enjoyed
getting to know everyone inside the organization in the last year um and getting to go work with
FERC again is going to be great um and obviously TD getting OC job um all those things were really
compelling and um I'm just happy to be back with a quality organization that has a good locker room
and um you know a winning culture and excited to get to work again. A good locker room. A winning culture. I love hearing stuff like that.
I know a lot of it is just generic football talk,
but you don't hear that from everybody about every organization.
So good to know that the things we think about the Tennessee Titans
are confirmed by the player sometime.
The next thing, though, you heard Jeff Swain mention TD,
and he's talking about Todd Downing, the Titans' new offensive coordinator,
who has been the tight ends coach under Arthur Smith,
obviously worked directly with Jeff Swaim last year.
And these next few comments are some of the best stuff that I heard
throughout this entire process of breaking down all this audio for you guys.
So enjoy hearing Jeff Swaim talk about his relationship with Todd Downing. It got
me very excited for Todd Downing as an offensive coordinator. And then he talks about his role in
the offense as well. Enjoy these. Yeah, it's funny. Like I've had a lot of different styles of
tight end coaches. I've played through college and been in the league for a little bit. And the best quality of Todd's in my mind is, is he's not,
he's not a stubborn dude. He just, he wants to work with you.
And so as a tight end coach, it was great, man.
We'd have discussions about technique or scheme or whatever it was,
whatever I, whatever my mind wanted to talk about,
he was willing to have those discussions and open to hearing what I like to do
and how I like to do it.
And I thought as a position coach, that was really, really valuable for me.
It helped me feel free to kind of make the most of my game or,
or try new things and, and try to improve in that area.
So that's what he did really well as a tight end coach, I thought.
And I know his football mind is real sharp.
And, you know, I can't speak to him as a coordinator.
I haven't been around him when he was a coordinator.
So I can't speak to him on that.
But I know he's got a really good football background.
And I'm just – I'm really excited to get to keep working with him.
Yeah, off the top
of my head one of the big um things we kind of had an ongoing discussion within the year was
our wide zone footwork and so it's kind of a technical thing but um different body types do
do it differently and so a guy who has you know different hip mobility than i do he may use different footwork to get to a landmark on a block um and i have i'm on kind of a longer body
and so i can cover a lot more ground in a shorter amount of time and um we just had talks throughout
the year on how we were going to kind of like how we're going to modify how i did things to make me
as efficient as possible and i had all my you know I have my years of experience
and all my crazy thoughts and Todd was able to look at it and analyze it and okay I think you're
right about this and right about that and let's work on your first step getting a little more
width or whatever it was and those little details that I like as a player that I want to be coached
on he was very open to like identifying the little details that i needed to
work on and then allowing me to experiment with what i thought worked and when we found something
that did work then he would coach me up on that um as opposed to trying to hammer into me what
he thought was the best way to do it he would allow me to kind of play with techniques and
play with footwork and body position and hand placement.
And then once we solidified how, what worked for me, then he would make, okay,
that's how we're going to coach you from now on.
And I'm not going to coach you like I coached Ferk or Pru or John U because everyone, everyone's body is different. Everyone moves differently.
Those kinds of answers just get me really excited.
It's not about making players do what you want them to do.
It's about you and the players working together to create the best solution. That's why I always say the best offensive minds
don't have a system that they have to run. The best offensive minds look at the personnel and
the talents that they have on their team, and then they mold their system to that. That is the sign
of a good coach. But the last piece of audio here from Jeff Swaim,
we've talked about this quote before on the show,
but I still want to let you guys get a listen.
Talks about his role, maybe have an expanded role this year
with Johnnie Smith out of the building,
but ultimately talks about what got him where he has gotten to.
I love this quote right here.
Pure football player, Jeff Swaim.
Yeah, you're not going to find a tight end that turns down the opportunity
to catch a ball, you know.
And so that, for me, is always great when you can get the ball
and run after the catch and stuff like that.
I've been asked that question a few times, like,
what do I think about my role or do I want it to be expanded?
And obviously you want your role to be expanded because you're competitive.
But the truth is I really like what I do. I like blocking.
I like I've done it for a long time and I'm
kind of made my career on it.
So for me, blocking is, is a a natural it's kind of the natural part of
football that i love um and i'm always excited to do more and i know firk is the same way like
you're always trying to grow and expand your game um but i can't forget the thing that's
got me here which is being a blocker and so if i'm asked to do more than an opportunity comes, man, I'll, I'll jump all over it. But, um, in the meantime,
I'm going to do what I've,
I've done in the past and what I'm called on, which is to block. And I,
I don't do that, you know, like, um,
with anything but excitement because I really enjoy doing it.
Jeff, you enjoy blocking and we all enjoy watching you do it.
What an excellent answer there.
Yeah, I want to do more, of course.
I want to do more, but I know what got me here.
I mean, maybe it's just the football nerding me, and I can't help it,
but man, I love hearing those answers from Jeff Swaim.
But it is time to move forward into the last segment of our Friday show.
We're going to hear some quick audio from Anthony Ferkser
and then offensive tackle Ty Sambrillo.
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We are going to dive into our final segment of the week here from
tight end Anthony Ferkser and offensive tackle
Ty Sambrillo. Before we do, if you guys recall at the beginning of the show, I let you know
that from here on out, we are diving fully into the NFL draft. And if you want to get
two different sources of NFL draft content, make sure that you check out the Locked On NFL Draft Podcast with host Trevor
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But we are going to hear from Anthony Ferkser.
And despite being a Harvard guy, which means obviously he's a very intelligent human being
to get yourself into Harvard, Ferkser gave some less than enjoyable answers throughout
his press conference.
I did find a few gems near the end, but for being such a smart guy,
he really relies on cliches and coach speak.
And we see that here when he talks about just how excited he is
to be back with the Titans.
I mean, I'm sure he's not lying, but just doesn't feel super genuine.
Yeah, I was really excited to finalize the deal with the Titans.
And, yeah, just after going back and forth in negotiations.
But just exciting stuff and really happy to be back kind of with the same organization.
And, I mean, good to see Todd Downing get promoted to the offensive coordinator,
just being a former Titans coach.
So, I know he did a great job in our room so I'm just excited to see how he can help this offense
and build on what Arthur has provided for the Titans dude must have had a hot date after his
press conference or something because he is already ready to go after question number one
but he mentioned Todd Downing there and next he talks about Todd Downing's strengths as a tight end coach.
Yeah, I think, I mean, he's a very detail-oriented guy.
And he does a great job teaching us and coaching us and making slight improvements on all plays and throughout the game.
So, I mean, I know he's going to have experience
in the offensive coordinator job in his prior years.
I'm just excited to see how it progresses with the Titans.
Speaking of that progression, Anthony Ferkser talks about his progression
as a player and the things that he wants to improve upon
with new opportunities in 2021.
Yeah, I definitely keep improving my block game.
I know it's something I've been working on all through coming into the NFL.
But yeah, I mean,
all the past coaches and previous veterans I've been around,
I spent time with and just learning from them and just continue to kind of
build my game and seeing how important it is to be a dual threat tight end.
And yeah, that's something I'm going to keep hoping
I can progress in and add value in both areas to the Titans.
Thanks.
Yeah, I mean, I just seen how he's worked with guys in our room
and how he's worked with me specifically,
just with my body type and making sure I can use my speed
and quickness and lower center of gravity and leverage
just to make sure I can get movement on the ends when I'm blocking
and just making sure I'm aggressive.
And good technique is just something that he really stressed
when we were watching film and everything.
So, yeah, just hoping I can progress that and keep learning.
Well, we certainly hope so too, Anthony Fergser.
But now we're going to move into some audio from Ty Sambrillo.
And let me say this.
Ty Sambrillo gave a couple of good answers that I liked,
but he was another guy, man.
A lot of these dudes, you could tell,
they did not want to be doing these press conferences. So I was surprised we got that good answer there from Ferkser there at the end about his progression and working with Todd and we got a few good things
out of Sam Brillo but some of these guys you can tell they definitely hate the media obligations
and Sam Brillo just listen to his comments man you can tell first things he talks about here is
just his thoughts on being back with the Titans again.
I'm very excited to be back and love the team here and love the mentality and the culture. And so I can't be more excited to be back.
I mean, you could be a little more excited.
I think saying you couldn't be any more excited with that tone of voice.
I don't know, man.
Maybe I read too much into it, but it just makes me laugh when I hear stuff like that.
But we'll hear from Sam Brillo talk about how he actually fits in Nashville
from a football standpoint.
I think that's a pretty good answer.
You know, first and foremost, I have a lot of respect and care for the teammates
I play with and the amount of work they put in to get here
and that they put in on a daily basis to stay here.
And, you know, a lot of great guys in this locker room,
great people and great players.
So it was a no-brainer to stay and, you know, go to battle with these guys.
Obviously love the coaching staff and love, you know,
what we run and the mentality we play with.
So I'm excited to be back
now I do love that answer right there talking about the scheme that they have on offense
the mentality that they play football with in Tennessee you add that into the things that Jeff
Swain was saying about what he likes to do and and the culture of the team I mean that's all
great stuff the Titans want to be a physical football
team that takes another man's will. And I think a lot of guys who play football identify with that
conquest. So Ty Sambrillo maybe isn't the most excitable guy, but I do appreciate he has a taste
for hard-nosed physical football. And he talked right there about really liking the guys in the locker room,
and that's something we've heard a lot about.
And he kind of expands upon that and talks about Todd Downing as well
in this final answer.
I'm excited to see where Todd takes this offense.
I know he has a great understanding of it.
And I'm excited that we promoted from within
and that we're going to keep the same family of football going.
So that's a short answer, but I wanted to leave that in there at the end
because he talks about promoting from within
and how important that was to him or how he values that.
And I think that's something, rightfully so, in my mind,
I had a negative reaction to the hiring process.
And I wasn't too upset about Todd Downing getting his chance at OC.
That's fine.
The Shane Bowen promotion, obviously, I had a little bit less positive reaction to.
But I think there is something to be said for hiring from within.
Kind of keeps a positive atmosphere in the locker room
knowing that if guys work hard, they'll get their opportunity.
They're not going to be supplanted by somebody outside the organization.
And then finally, he talks about the same football family of guys.
And football is as close to the military
as you can get in terms of camaraderie and brotherhood.
It's not on the level of the military, of course.
I don't want to be, you know, put in a position where it's like I'm saying that.
It's not on that level at all.
It's totally different when things are literally life and death.
I recognize that.
So my father's a military man.
I'm not trying to downplay the military in any way,
but I'm just saying I'm trying to prop up football above other sports. The physicality,
the pounding that you take, struggle creates bonds. That's a thing in life, not just sports
or the military. Struggling together and going through traumas together and going through pain, whether it
be emotional, physical, spiritual, with other people brings you together, shared experience.
So I don't know, of course, I read too deep into all this stuff, as I've said throughout
the episode, but I really enjoyed that final answer.
And I think that although we are a little disappointed at times as people watching the team when they promote from within,
they don't go outside the organization and get the help that we think they need.
There is a psychological value to promoting from within.
And the players talk about that.
So I thought that was important to put in there.
And speaking of football families,
we are a football family here on the Locked on Titans
podcast.
So I hope you guys all have a safe and enjoyable weekend.
I will be back with you guys for a mock draft Monday, a mailbag Monday, and then next week
after Monday, we will dive into our position by position draft breakdown, going over the
top prospects, the day two options, and the day three options
at each position on offense and on defense.
So excited to dive into draft coverage with you guys.
Make sure that you don't miss a single episode coming up in April by following the Locked
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But that's going to do it for me today, folks.
I appreciate all of you guys hanging with me this week.
I am still slightly under the weather, and I know there have been some delays, but I
appreciate everybody and their continued support.
That's going to do it for me today, though.
As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowland, and this was Locked on Titans. you