Lords of Death - 3 | Wolf at the Door

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

After Mick and Tim’s arrests, a detective from another county visits Kari’s home in hopes of finding information that could help solve two gruesome murders. Subscribe to Tenderfoot+ for an early access binge to episodes 1-5 and ad-free listening - https://tenderfoot.tv/plus/. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Listener discretion is advised. After Mick and Tim's arrest in June of 1995, my life changed in an instant. Not only was Mick gone, but my sister and I moved to my grandparents' house about 30 minutes away. From the time this happened until the time we moved, you guys were never back in the house. I felt like the house was just like tainted with evilness. I just didn't want you and your sister back in there. Not that a crime had happened in the house. I just didn't want you in there.

So how did you tell me and Kara about this? I mean, it was hard to keep it from you guys. You guys were close to him. It wasn't like I could just say, he's gone, that's it. Forget he ever existed after the life we had together. All the fun and going to the parks and playing with you guys. I mean, you've seen pictures of him interacting with you guys. I remember it.

Kara doesn't. Those are my earliest memories. It's not me and you and Dad. It's me, you, and Mick. That's what I remember. My mom eventually moved in with us, but she stayed at the house in Five Oaks for a few weeks. As investigators in Dayton were wrapping up their case

against Mick and Tim, a detective from Tim's hometown was investigating a slew of unsolved murders that happened seven years earlier. After Cindy's murder, his investigation led him to our house in Dayton. A few days after Mick and Tim were arrested, Arnold Van Horn from Guernsey County showed up at my door. He told me that they were looking for some potential evidence that they thought might be in my possession. Specifically, they were looking for a black leather jacket and a sawed-off shotgun.

Detective Arnold Van Horn explained that he was investigating several unsolved murders, and it turned out that one of his lead suspects had been living under our roof. The evidence he was looking for belonged to none other than Tim Terrell. From Tenderfoot TV, I'm Thrasher Banks. This is Lords of Death. The unsolved murders that Detective Van Horn had been investigating happened a couple hours from Dayton, near a small town called Byesville. Well, I guess it was a slow pace. There wasn't a lot to do. There weren't a lot of what I'd call derelicts.

I'd say everybody was affiliated with one church or another. So it was the kind of town where everybody left their doors on live? Oh yeah, certainly. Everybody knew each other. That's Tim Hannum. He grew up in Guernsey County and remembers spending time with his uncle Homer Potts and his wife Lila at their farm. The Pottses lived on Vocational Road, a few miles outside of Buysville. It was a pretty bucolic life out there. We were a few miles out of town and it was a big farm, a big piece of property.

Homer was hardworking. He worked at various factories and in the mines. Lila was really the alpha of that group, though. She had first and last say what they were going to do, go or buy or how they were going to live. Homer's niece, Patty, lived at their farm until the late 1960s. Patty was the second youngest daughter of Homer's sister and her husband. They had, I want to say, 10 kids in the 30s. That was a lot of kids to raise. And often,

you know, if you had family around, they helped. My mom always said she looked like a little doll always. You know, she was always dressed up and they always took great care of her. That's Tim's sister, Teresa. After Patty moved out, Homer and Leela lived alone at their farm in a sparsely populated area of Guernsey County. Other than a church and cemetery that sat a few hundred yards away, there wasn't a neighbor in sight. On the afternoon of February 26th, 1987, Homer and Lila were at home watching TV when they heard an unexpected knock on the door.

When Homer went to answer the door, Lila heard a man yell, give me the money or I'll kill you and your wife. When she went to see what was going on, she saw Homer attempt to strike the man with a ceramic praying hand statue. According to Lila, the man knocked the statue out of Homer's hands

and then pulled out a knife and stabbed him twice in the chest. When the man realized Lila was in the doorway, he pushed her against the table and stabbed her in in the chest. When the man realized Lilo was in the doorway, he pushed her against the table and stabbed her in the lower abdomen. At that point, the man turned back to Homer and stabbed him two more times before fleeing the scene empty-handed. We went to the house, saw the damage had been done in the living room and where the blood had stained the carpet where Homer was attacked.

I remember going there for that. There was some antique ceramics in the corner about four feet away from the door in the corner and those were all smashed to smithereens. And like I said, there was a big blood stain just inside the door on the rug. After the attacker fled, Leila claimed that Homer went through the kitchen and out the back door to ring a dinner bell next to the house to call for help. When she went to check on Homer, she saw him collapse in the driveway. Then she called their nearest neighbor for help. By the time the first officer arrived on the scene, Homer had succumbed to his injuries.

He was 78 years old. Lilo survived the attack, but couldn't identify the man who killed Homer, only that he was a bearded white male in his early 20s that fled the scene in an older blue car, possibly a Chevy Nova. Well, it was just shocking and unbelievable that something like that would have happened. But she seemed to be in good spirits,

and it was just the next day, and she was going through the story of everything that happened. But she didn't seem to be really hurting or debilitated by the wounds. So we thought that was kind of odd. That still doesn't make sense to me. Somebody come to the front door in the middle of the day and demand money.

It was hard to buy that something just randomly happened like that. I thought it was weird that he would have gone to ring the bell, though. I mean, there's nobody within a quarter of a mile of their house. If he went out the back door, he went right past the phone. But I heard that the kitchen and everything was all clean by the time they got out there. I can't imagine he ran all the way through there. So here's where Lila's story doesn't quite add up.

If Homer had four stab wounds and ran through the kitchen, you'd expect a blood trail through the house, but there wasn't one. The only blood trail was between the bell and the back door. How would he have run through the house if he had been stabbed so many times? How would he have done that and lost all the blood that he did at the back porch? I don't know. It just is bizarre. I just don't think it unfolded the way she says it unfolded. It sounded

like there might be something that she does know, but it was flighty. She was at the hospital because she had a stab wound. Well, when you first hear that she has a stab wound, you're thinking, oh, wow, this is really something deep. Well, in actuality, it wasn't. You know, it was very superficial. And she didn't go to his funeral. Since Leila's stab wound required surgery, she was in the hospital for a couple of weeks and missed Homer's funeral. When she was discharged, she insisted on returning to the farm, When she was discharged, she insisted on returning to the farm, even though the man who killed Homer was never caught. So their niece, Patty, who was in her late 40s at this time, hired a private security

company called Buckeye Guard to monitor the property 24-7. Once Lila got home, Patty had hired an off-duty sheriff's deputy to come and live in a trailer they had brought in, and it was outside in the yard. He kind of screened everybody that came to visit at that time. I think that lasted for a month, and Lela didn't like it. She didn't want anything like that. Even though Patty paid good money for the security detail,

Lela would dismiss the guard every night. When she did come home afterwards, she showed next to no effects of it. She did not seem afraid. She just went about her daily business. And I think it was seeing that response and then knowing that, hey, this is just a superficial wound, just kind of got everybody thinking. From there, the small-town rumor mill took on a life of its own. It was almost like she was even happier than normal. And she wasn't a good singer, but she would sing louder than anybody.

She thought they should consider the fact that Layla's been awfully happy since Homer's gone. I find it strange that Lita went and lived in the house still after her husband was murdered there. I would think maybe she might want to live somewhere else, but she was, I guess, comfortable enough to stay there. Because my grandmother even looked at my grandpa and said, I can't believe she's laughing right now. Look at her carrying on. It's always been local thought there that I've heard

that Lela was somehow involved in the first murder and was, you know, wounded to make it look real. But again, that Lila was somehow involved in the first murder and was, you know, wounded as to make it look real. But again, that's just local talk. But setting the rumor and innuendo aside, the Guernsey County Sheriff's Office never released the names of any suspects. However, since the lead detective, Arnold Van Horn, came to our house in Dayton looking for potential evidence, we can assume that Tim was at least one of the suspects in his investigation. I'd wanted to contact Detective Van Horn

ever since my mom gave me the box back in 2014, but I didn't think he'd have any interest in speaking with me. I'm not a journalist, I have zero credentials, but in 2018, I gave him a call and told him I was producing a podcast about the case. Hey, hello. Hey, is this Arnold? Yes. I spoke with you a couple weeks ago about the Potts murders.

So what questions do you want to talk about? Could you just tell me a little bit about the Potts murders. So what questions do you want to talk about? Could you just tell me a little bit about the day Homer was killed? Okay. What happened is he was sitting there in his chair, knock on the door, and this guy standing there, he's demanding money. Of course, Homer refused to give him any money. So he stabs Homer. And then his wife, she ends up getting stabbed too, but she didn't die. And then his wife, she ends up getting stabbed too, but she didn't die. And so then Homer went running through the house. He was bleeding badly because he bled all the way out to the hole where he rang the bell. They had a bell on a pole out back. In his mind, he was going to ring that bell and get attention of somebody out where they lived

at probably the closest person was a quarter of a mile away, at least an eighth of a mile away. The chance of somebody hearing the bell was slim. The only information Van Horn had to go on was Lila's description of the attacker. So the only witness we had was Lila, and she was not a good witness. She kept changing the story. We had an artist go down and try to get her to tell us what the person looked like. We'd show her the thing and say, If the composite sketch is accurate at all, it looks nothing like Tim Terrell.

The man has bushy dark hair and a thick beard. Tim's hair is lighter and thinner. According to his probation documents from that time frame, he drove a car similar to Homer's killer, but it wasn't a Chevy Nova. It was a 1976 AMC Hornet. And here's where things get interesting. Van Horn wasn't the only person investigating the murder.

Marty Goodfriend, the owner of Buckeye Guard Security, was a private investigator and conducted his own investigation for Patty. He went out to the farm on the day Lila was discharged from the hospital and found her in a distraught state. She told Marty that Van Horn was trying to trick her into taking a polygraph test because of the rumors that she killed Homer. She said people were cruel and that she and Homer did not have problems. Marty began asking questions, which led him to believe that Lila was hiding something. Marty noted that Lila's description of Homer's attacker using an upward motion wasn't possible. Downward stabs produced Homer's wounds.

But she said the killer stabbed in and up. He was skeptical that she could recall exact details about the assailant's knife and vehicle, but she couldn't describe what he was wearing. And then there's the lack of blood throughout the house. He makes it clear in the report that he believed Leela either killed Homer herself or conspired with others to do so According to Marty, the motive was over the estate, which Leela's foster parents left to Homer instead of her

Someone had told Marty that Leela had recently destroyed their will, which could be true According to the probate court, Homer didn't have a will on file According to the probate court, Homer didn't have a will on file. I noticed another inconsistency Marty wouldn't have been aware of without inside knowledge of the investigation. When Leela talked to Van Horn, she said the attacker stabbed Homer twice, then turned his attention to her, before stabbing Homer two more times. She told Marty that after the attacker stabbed Homer twice, and then turned his attention to her, that Homer ran through the house and out the back door. When I talked to Detective Van Horn, he acknowledged that Leela's story was inconsistent, but still doesn't believe she had anything to do with the murder. Is it possible that Leela had Homer killed?

No. No, I don't believe that at all. Just a failed robbery. When Homer refused to give him any money, Homer got stabbed and she got stabbed and he took off. Never got anything. Even though Van Horn eliminated Leela as a suspect, he wouldn't develop any real leads until nearly two years later when the Potts' farm was targeted a second time. Technically, since it was 20 months to the day, I think, one of the same guys went back. two years later when the Potts' farm was targeted a second time. across the country police tell us there have been more than 15 000 animal mutilations and often they were clearly used in some kind of bizarre ritual but there's no official explanation in california new jersey al, and elsewhere, police have found inverted crosses and the remains of mutilated animals. But by far the most frightening of all are the

reports of teenagers killing other kids in Satan's name. By October of 1988, the satanic panic had reached Guernsey County. There were fears that a satanic cult was active in the area after reports of farmers discovering mutilated livestock. On top of that, locals were finding dead animals on their porches. The Sheriff's Department took action and sent deputies to a seminar about investigating a cult-related crime. Something was going on. These farm animals and stuff, they were coming up dead. crime. That's Tricia. She attended a town hall law enforcement hosted to ease the

community's fears. They were talking about the animals. They were showing up on people's porches or just to scare people that they don't think that was anything to do with the occult. Those are just people trying to like secondary, you know, to make it look like it is them. And instead of easing the community's fears about a satanic cult, the town hall fueled even more speculation. I thought, okay, there's devil worshipers. I knew at that point there were people in our area getting sucked in to this whole, it was almost a fad thing, but they were getting sucked into that. You know, I mean, it was a real strange time to live here. It was scary. I mean, everybody was afraid.

That fear would reach new heights on the night of October 25th, 1988. It was the week of Halloween. There was a full moon. And Geraldo Rivera's infamous primetime special, Exposing Satan's Underground, aired on NBC.

The Investigative News Group presents the Geraldo Rivera special. Devil Worship. Exposing Satan's Underground. Now, the very young and the impressionable should definitely not be watching this program tonight. This is not a Halloween fable. This is a real-life horror story, and it will give small children bad dreams. When we discuss the satanic panic today,

we know the claims of satanic ritual abuse were a hoax that led to dozens of wrongful convictions. satanic ritual abuse were a hoax that led to dozens of wrongful convictions. But that night, Geraldo told millions of Americans that it was all true and devil worship was widespread across the United States. in the devil's name. It exists and it's flourishing. While Geraldo's special was still on the air, a vocational road resident was driving home and saw a car parked at the church near Lila's and alerted police. The responding officer saw two jackets on the front seat and took down the car's license plate number before leaving the scene. We have seen that Satanism can be linked to dope and to pornography, child abuse, and to murder. It has led seemingly normal teenagers into monstrous behavior,

and that is why we brought you this report tonight. It was a clear night, just one of those crisp, cold, autumn nights. And I was just standing there, and I see the moon and it felt odd it felt eerie it just felt everything that kind of goes with you know Halloween that time of year and it just felt like something was happening but I can remember standing outside and feeling very strange about just the feeling of it all. The next day, Teresa's mom had plans to go shopping with Lila and Patty. So mom was meeting Patty at Lila's house. When mom got out of her car, she noticed something moving, and it was a curtain in a window, and the window was broken. After she knocked on the door and Leela didn't answer,

she feared the worst and left to notify police. Phone rang. It was my brother. He said, Leela was murdered last night. They broke in and stabbed her, as I'm going from memory, I think 17 times that she was stabbed. She had been stabbed several times at night and with a screwdriver. I recall it was 20 months to the day later. One of the same guys went back, except there was two of them the next time. Of course, they broke a window out and came through her basement. And then she heard them. So she was there.

They came through the basement door. But she's got this plastic flashlight against a knife, so she was pretty well defenseless. Before breaking in, Lila's killers punctured her car tires and cut the telephone lines on the side of the house. Apart from the broken flashlight, there was other evidence of a struggle. On the the side of the house. Apart from the broken flashlight, there was other evidence of a struggle. On the far side of the house,

there was a hammer and gardening tool covered in blood on top of a chest freezer. The window behind the freezer was shattered, possibly by Leela as she tried to escape. The amount of bloody footprints throughout the house indicated multiple people were involved. The drawers in the kitchen were covered in bloody glove prints as the killers ransacked the place.

It appeared that Leela's purse was missing. Leela's body was found on her bedroom floor with a screwdriver lodged in her temple. Next to her body, there were pieces of a broken plastic crucifix. The family didn't believe it belonged to Lila. Despite this, Detective Van Horn doesn't think it was an occult-related crime. It was a robbery. Everybody knew she had money because she had the habit of carrying large sums of money. It was well known that she always had several hundred dollars in that purse After the murders, Teresa's brother Tim was in disbelief that his elderly aunt and uncle were killed in the same house 20 months apart.

Well, I just thought it had to be some kind of conspiracy. I couldn't imagine the same guys coming right back. It just confused things even more than they were from Homer's murder. My dad took me and my brother-in-law into the house, and we saw part of what was left of the crime scene. And you could tell it had been a very violent thing, because her bedroom was right over the basement. It was a first-floor bedroom, and it had a pocket door that went to the basement.

And that pocket door was a heavy oak door. And whoever came in just ripped through that door to get into her. And that was kind of shocking too. I mean, you could tell the amount of violence that was involved in that. And it just had a lasting impression of me, you know, that she could be in bed five feet away and somebody had to take in an ax or some kind of tool to bust through that door, because that was a really heavy, sturdy door. The next day, Wes Wilson's article about the murder was on the front page of the Daily Jeffersonian. From my perspective, I just thought it was very unusual that the same residence would be broken into again,

and that there was another murder in 1987. Lila Potts' husband, Homer, was killed and she was critically injured. She survived and 20 months later, something like that, it happened again. Looked like a robbery and she was stabbed to death. They broke in and attacked an old woman. They were angry, hateful. You just question, you know, why this couple were they targeted? Maybe they decided to go back later and take care of Lila because she didn't die the first time. I don't know. But that crosses

my mind sometimes. You know, was it the same people and they came back to finish the job? I said, that's just weird. The two murders in the same family, months apart from each other, it still boggles the mind. I'm surprised that they let that information out so early on about the screwdriver.

I didn't think that they would give that information out. Today, they probably wouldn't give that information out right away, but I was surprised they did. There's always rumor that maybe they had lots of money hidden in their house, but that was never verified. The broken crucifix and the fact the murder happened while Geraldo's special was on the air caused panic throughout the community.

As I recall, at the time there was satanic cults and worshiping, and especially in small towns and stuff. People thought that they would go out into the woods and participate in their cult rituals. There was just talk that there was people that would practice Satanism because it was so desolate. There wasn't a lot of people around. There's a lot of wooded areas and farm areas. People were very scared. They thought they didn't capture Homer's murderer. Lila Potts then is murdered and they're like, is he going to come to our house? You know, are we

going to be broken into and stabbed to death? You know, they didn't know who was out there. And so they were locking their doors and calling the police to ask, you know, what they can do to be safer. And just told them, you know, lock your doors and keep an eye on your neighbor's property and make sure that they keep an eye on your property. Do you think that it was a cult related? To this day, I still don't know if it was or not. It's just strange that she didn't have those items herself, personal items, according to family members

and stuff, so I don't know. I think there would have been more signs of some kind of satanic occult activity if there was than just the little cross that was found. As Detective Van Horn investigated the murders, none of the leads panned out,

including the car parked at the church that night, and the murders remain unsolved today. What would it take to get this case prosecuted in 2018? A miracle. A miracle? Somebody come aboard and say, hey, he confessed to me, or they confessed to me. I'm willing to testify.

The longer the time goes, the more people die off, and their memories, just like me, you know, you don't remember all the details and stuff, but it'd take a miracle. Van Horn declined to discuss any of the suspects in the murders, but he became uneasy when I brought up Tim Terrell. Let me ask you one other question. Who gave you my files on the Potts murder? Because you know things that was in my file that's not public record unless you got a public record release. I checked with the judge who used to be the prosecutor. I checked with the judge, who used to be the prosecutor.

I checked with the sheriff and detectives and all that, and they say they have not released anything. But you've got information that would only be in my file. Like even the names of who my suspects were. You know, you just don't pull that name out of thin air. At that point, I hadn't seen Van Horn's files. All I had was the box and my mom's account of Van Horn coming to Dayton. Even though my mom didn't have the shotgun or leather jacket Van Horn was after,

it didn't leave Dayton empty-handed. He told me that they were looking for some potential evidence that they thought might be in my possession. Specifically, they were looking for a black leather jacket and a sawed-off shotgun. I did not have either one of those. I did have letters that Tim had gotten from his friend and, as he called him, his partner, Jim Tovell, that they had written back and forth while Jim was in prison. So I turned all the letters over to Arnold Van Horn. These are the letters she found in Tim's

room that describe plans to torture and murder a judge and his family when Jim got out of prison. When I spoke with Mick, he told me he met Tim and Jim in prison in the late 1980s. with Mick. He told me he met Tim and Jim in prison in the late 1980s. I think it was about 1989, somewhere in there. I usually hang out down at the handball courts back then. That's when they started coming around. That's how I met them. Took a liking to them. They took a liking to me. Seemed like good dudes. It turned out to be a good friendship from there. I noticed that everything they had, like a Lords of Death symbol. I was like, what is this? They said, that's our group.

Like, what is this? This is just our gang. That's what they taught us at the time. I first heard about the Lords of Death from my mom when she told me Tim had the initials LOD tattooed on his arm. But Tim wasn't the only one. Jim has the tattoo as well.

And the story goes that to join the group, you have to take someone's soul. It wasn't until sometime later, we're actually like a cult, you know? I'm like, a cult? Jim said he was like the leader, and Tim was his, like, second in command. He said, we're trying to recruit people.

I said, I'm cool. You know, I don't want nothing like that. But they did mention hurting some people off and on. That's when Tim joked and said, well, yeah, a screwdriver makes a good weapon. Thank you. with additional writing by Meredith Stedman and Dennis Cooper. Produced by Meredith Stedman and Dennis Cooper. Executive producers are Donald Albright and Payne Lindsey. Consulting producer and video production by George Miller. Supervising producer is Tracy Kaplan.

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