Lore - Episode 118: Ambition

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Some people have a fire inside them that drives them to do great things. New discoveries, breakthrough inventions, or astonishing accomplishments. But some have harnessed that passion for something da...rker, and they’re actions have left a painful mark on history. ——————— The Lore book series: www.theworldoflore.com/books The Lore TV show: www.Amazon.com/Lore Latest Lore news: www.theworldoflore.com/now Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com Access premium content!: https://www.lorepodcast.com/support See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The treaty was supposed to fix everything, but that was a lie. In August of 1678, France signed the Treaty of Nijmegen to end the Dutch War. On the surface, it put all the broken pieces back together, but France's King Louis XIV wasn't a big fan of following the rules. If the six-year-long conflict hadn't solidified King Louis' reputation as the bully in Europe, the way he exploited the treaty over the next few years certainly did. And it was a mantle that he wore with pride.
Starting point is 00:00:45 He was rich and powerful, and stood at the very pinnacle of French society's cutthroat world of upward mobility and social status. The same year he signed the treaty, he wrapped up construction on Versailles. It had taken 17 years, but when it was completed, his old hunting lodge had become the centerpiece of royal life and the stage upon which countless dramas were played out. We have records of women in the court literally breaking out into fights and screaming matches to decide who would get to sit closest to the Queen. Courtiers would stay at the palace for months at a time, afraid to leave and let some competitor
Starting point is 00:01:23 take their place, even if that meant allowing their property back home to fall into ruin and lose all value. It was a world full of rivalries and failure, hungry ambition and painful sacrifices. For those closest to the King and Queen, every waking moment felt as if their happiness and good fortune hung in the balance. Everyone was desperate for a leg up over their rivals, and many were known to pay for help. Astrologers, mediums, and fortune tellers were all common straws that these desperate socialites grasped for.
Starting point is 00:01:58 As hyperbolic as it might sound to us today, each of them felt that their every decision, no matter how big or small, had somehow become a matter of life and death. And for a while, at least, everyone was right. I'm Aaron Mankey, and this is Lore. Catherine was born in Paris, France, around 1640, but that's about all we know. Her exact date of birth is still a mystery, as are the names of her parents. Like a lot of the lower class of her day, she came into the world unnoticed, but she wasn't about to stay that way.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You see, there was a world of difference between the social elites that swarmed around the royal court, like flies on a carcass, and the filthy underbelly of the French working class. But one thing Catherine did have in common with them was ambition. She was born to wield power, and had the tenacity to reach for it. By the age of nine, she was learning the art and secrets of fortune-telling, and I can't help but imagine Catherine plying those skills on the streets of Paris, drawing in crowds who were just as interested in the child prodigy as they were in details of their own futures.
Starting point is 00:03:35 But like a lot of young women of that era, she hoped for a marriage that would provide for her and get her off the streets. For Catherine, that man was Antoine, a silk merchant who ran a shop out of a building on the Paule-Marie Bridge. Today the bridge is a beautiful stretch of open space and ancient stone, but in the late 1600s it was lined on both sides by buildings where merchants sold their wares. And for a time, I imagine life was relatively good for Catherine and Antoine. But at some point early in their marriage, Antoine's business failed, and so Catherine
Starting point is 00:04:10 had to step in and help support their household. She worked as a midwife, but it was her fortune-telling that pulled in the bigger clients, the aristocrats looking for an edge over their rivals, or peace of mind amidst a sea of anxiety. Whatever it was, Catherine Monvoisaine was there to give them exactly what they needed. Things were looking up for Catherine, but Antoine's failure had hit him hard. He began to drown himself in alcohol, making it impossible for him to contribute to the family income, and eventually Catherine was the only adult supporting herself, Antoine, and their four children.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And this apparently frustrated her beyond belief. It was said that one of the most respectful ways to greet Catherine in private was to ask whether or not her husband had died yet. It's what she wanted, and most people knew that, even Antoine himself. In fact, they apparently lived near one of the local executioners, and it's said that Antoine approached him more than once to request an autopsy should he ever drop dead unexpectedly. Catherine filled her time with a lot of hard work.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Her network was growing, and that meant more and more people knew of her services. And she began to get so busy that she started referring clients to other fortune-tellers, taking a large cut of the fee as a commission, of course. But in her spare time, she maintained a steady flow of lovers. One of them was a young magician named Adam Lassage, who was more than a little interested in removing Catherine's husband from the picture. He even convinced her to participate in a ritual that would set dark powers in motion to kill him, part of which involved burying the heart of a sheep in her backyard.
Starting point is 00:05:53 At the last moment, though, Catherine backed out and dug the organ back up, which might have been the most perfect illustration of the phrase change of heart in all of history. That didn't mean that she was any less interested in being rid of her husband. She just had a lot of other things on her mind, and a career that was exploding in popularity. By some accounts, she was earning the modern equivalent of nearly $200,000 annually, which shows just how important her services were to the people of Paris. And she spent it lavishly, too, throwing regular celebrations and gatherings at her stylish home.
Starting point is 00:06:28 One record even suggests that she spent roughly $25,000 on a single dress. Business, as they say, was very, very good. More and more people were interested in learning about their future, what decisions to make, and how they might avoid failure in the middle of a competitive society. Rich or poor, day laborer or aristocrat, it didn't matter. Catherine Monvaux-Zen would sit down with them, provide them answers, and sometimes even solutions. She used chyromancy, otherwise known as palm reading, as well as physiognomy, the art of
Starting point is 00:07:04 reading another person's face. Many were sent away with instructions to pray to certain saints. Some were prescribed specific rituals, while others were given potions that included toad bones, mole teeth, and powdered human remains. She would later say that there were three major requests that brought people to her over and over again throughout the years. Monvaux-Zen was always on the forefront of people's minds, and she fielded countless requests for help in securing a spouse.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Another big topic was money, and many of her clients came looking for help in growing their personal fortunes. But right up there with love and money was another request, although this one was a bit less traditional. Many of the individuals who came to her were women looking for freedom from their husbands, and they were willing to do whatever it took to make it happen. And as it turns out, so was Catherine. The end began with an arrest.
Starting point is 00:08:13 One of Catherine's peers, a fortune teller named Magdalene de la Grange, was arrested in February of 1677. She was accused of forgery, which was bad enough, but she was also guilty of killing her own husband with poison. While she sat in prison awaiting her execution, de la Grange decided to help the authorities out. She told them that she was a small fish in a much bigger pond. Others just like her were out there performing the same services for their clients, selling
Starting point is 00:08:43 what they coyly referred to as inheritance powders, an herbal remedy meant to speed up the process of inheriting wealth from a loved one, a fancy term for poison. She also told them that these other people were part of a larger plot, one to assassinate the king. But it seems that while the authorities listened, they didn't act right away. It wasn't until an anonymous letter detailing the plot to kill the king was discovered inside a parish church that things really heated up. In late 1678, another well-off fortune teller hosted a large party at her house, and a number
Starting point is 00:09:18 of influential people were there. One of them, a power-hungry lawyer named Perron, overheard another of the guests comment that all she needed to do was poison three more people and then she'd be able to retire. Perron immediately went to the police and turned the woman in. Her name was Marie Beaus, but like a lot of women from the lower ranks of society, she was known by her surname, so everyone simply called her Le Beaus. She was arrested on January 4th of 1679 and taken to a fort just outside of Paris called Chateau du Vonsena, where she was held for questioning.
Starting point is 00:09:54 With a new lead in their possession, Lagrange was executed to tie up loose ends and also provide a bit more pressure on Le Beaus, who would certainly want to avoid the same ending. Her home was searched, and the investigators discovered ample quantities of cantherides, otherwise known as Spanish fly. In small doses, it could serve as an aphrodisiac, but could be highly toxic if too much was taken. Le Beaus quickly rolled on her clients. Over the next two months, she named dozens of women who had all come looking for poisons
Starting point is 00:10:25 with the intention of killing their husbands, running the spectrum from working-class wives to well-known aristocrats. But Le Beaus refused to admit selling the poisons to them herself. The main source of it all, she told them, was one woman, Catherine Montvozin. On Sunday, March 12th of 1679, Catherine, known by everyone around Paris as Lavoisin, stepped out of church to find the authorities waiting for her, and she was immediately taken into custody. Back at the Chateau, she and Le Beaus were separately interrogated, and each woman did
Starting point is 00:11:00 her best to pin the blame on her rival. It seems that even among those who served the social elites, competition was a way of life. Shortly two months later, though, the French authorities had reached the frustrating end of their rope. Sure, Le Beaus had pointed them to Lavoisin, as well as confess enough to have herself sentenced to death. But Lavoisin had somehow managed to keep herself silent through it all, refusing to admit
Starting point is 00:11:26 to any wrongdoing, so the authorities turned up the heat. On May 10th of 1697, Le Beaus was tortured one last time. I imagine her screams would have been heard all throughout the fortress, including the cell of Lavoisin. Then she was taken outside, along with her son and daughter, for their final punishment. Her son was hanged for the crime of helping his mother prepare her poisons, and then Le Beaus herself was burned alive while her daughter was forced to watch. It must have been a horrific scene, and one that would have left an impression on everyone
Starting point is 00:12:02 who heard it. And that included Lavoisin. She held on for a few more months, but on September 16th she called for one of her interrogators and told him that she was ready to talk. Maybe it was the terror she felt at the notion of burning alive as Le Beaus had done, or perhaps it was the liberal supply of alcohol they had been giving her. Either way, she was ready to give them information. The first thing she did, though, wasn't confess.
Starting point is 00:12:31 No, she pointed the finger at yet one more person. Her old lover, the magician, the one who had asked her to bury the sheep's heart in her back garden, Adam Lassage. It was her last attempt to slip through the net and avoid the consequences of her actions. The plans, as they say, are meant to be broken. Lassage was already on the authorities' radar, so to speak. He'd been arrested a decade earlier and served five years on a French prison ship before earning his freedom by serving in the military.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yes, he had a checkered past full of black magic and dark rituals, but he was a reformed man now, and he was also desperate to not lose his freedom again. When he and Lavoisin had parted ways back in 1667, he immediately set up shop as a direct competitor to her, which didn't go over very well. She had a lot of rivals around Paris, as most upwardly mobile people had at the time. But Lassage was different. He had been her lover and business partner. He had learned things from her that she shared with few other people, and not all of it was
Starting point is 00:13:59 good. In the end, Lavoisin's distraction backfired. When Lassage was brought in, rather than being an easy target, he brought all of that new evidence with him. He told them that Lavoisin was guilty of murders that had slipped past the authorities, and that she had a long list of well-known clients. It was she who supplied the entire network of fortune tellers with the deadly poisons that were being used across the city.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But there was more. According to Lassage, Lavoisin was also directly involved in a plot against the king. In fact, one of her clients, he told them, was one of the king's mistresses. Unfortunately, that was news that the interrogators took directly to the king, rather than through the usual channels. And when he caught wind of what was happening, he panicked. Someone close to the king was attempting to plot his death. I have to imagine he began to wonder who, of all the people at court around him, could
Starting point is 00:14:55 actually be trusted. Even his own mistresses were suspected at this point, and I'm betting he felt more than a little trapped, so he began to lock the investigation down and take control. One of the first things he did was order that the written records from the interrogations at the chateau not be bound in a book. Which sounds like an odd request, I know, until you realize that this was essentially a request to keep the records as deleteable as possible. Without binding, anyone could slip a dangerous page of notes out of the official records
Starting point is 00:15:27 and make them disappear. Next, the king instructed the investigators to make no exceptions in their future arrests. They were to ignore rank, wealth, and gender. Everyone who was a suspect should be arrested, no matter who they were, so long as there was sufficient evidence to support it. And among them were the Duke of Luxembourg and the Comtesse de Suisson, both of whom had hired Lavoisin to help them move up the ranks in the court. But it's impossible to keep rumors like this under wraps for long.
Starting point is 00:16:00 In a volatile environment like the Royal Court of Louis XIV, when every single person was grasping for an advantage over their rival, this was juicy information. The court was filled with murderous traitors who were hiring Lavoisin to poison their way to success. So naturally, word spread. From the court of the socialites, the rumors trickled down to the streets of Paris. Suddenly, everyone was obsessed with Lavoisin and her network of poisoners. But inside her prison cell in the chateau, she continued to deny all of it.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Some historians think that's because the rumors and accusations of her plot to kill the king, if proven true, would lead to instant death, keeping silent was Lavoisin's way of staying alive. It didn't work, though. In February 22nd of 1680, after a brief trial and quicker conviction, a carriage arrived at the chateau to transport her to her execution. She was driven to the square in front of Paris City Hall. But when the carriage stopped to let her out, she refused to exit.
Starting point is 00:17:09 After a moment of struggle, she was dragged out of the car by a pair of guards, kicking and screaming the entire time. A priest was given a moment to serve as her confessor, but she was said to have pushed his crucifix away and refused to speak with him. And then she was led to the square, where a large wooden stake awaited her, surrounded by straw and dry kindling, and thousands of eager onlookers. After tying her to the stake, the fire was lit. Legend says that she tried putting out the flames by kicking at them, but eventually
Starting point is 00:17:43 gave up and waited for death. She burned alive, and the infamous affair of the poisons was finally brought to an end. Ambition can be a dangerous thing. Yes, it drives talented people to clothe their way through barriers of self-doubt and social norms. Yes, it empowers those with enough courage to strive for success. But ambition has a darker side as well. Ambition was one of the driving forces behind Westward Expansion, which displaced millions
Starting point is 00:18:29 of Native Americans in a bloody land grab. Ambition drove H.H. Holmes to build an entire apartment complex filled with trap doors, secret rooms, and gas chambers, all for the purpose of killing for money. Ambition can be wonderful, yes. But it can also be horribly ugly. And while the list of crimes against Catherine Mavrozen was long and included activities like deception, attempted regicide, and even murder, it might be simpler to boil it all
Starting point is 00:19:00 down to one basic fault. Mavrozen was ambitious, and in the end, that came with a heavy price. Historians today believe that Mavrozen was responsible, either directly or through a third party, for the murder of over 1,000 individuals, although some estimates place that number as high as 2,500. She was the perfect example of what can happen when an ambitious person has the right skills, the right access, and a complete lack of morals. She took what she wanted, regardless of the cost it inflicted on those around her.
Starting point is 00:19:37 That cost went beyond lost lives, too. Because an event like the Affair of the Poisons, as it's become known by historians, was guaranteed to leave a mark on French history in multiple ways. Yes, there were deaths, but there were also a great number of reputations destroyed in the short time it took place. And one of those was the woman I mentioned earlier, the Comptes du Suisson. She herself had a lot to lose. She had wanted to become the king's new mistress and had tried poisoning her way into that
Starting point is 00:20:08 role. When she was caught by the authorities, the king was presented with a dilemma, imprison her and draw massive scandal from across Europe, or turn a blind eye and let her escape. Louis chose the latter, and the Comptes fled France in the dead of night. She died in Belgium 30 years later, never able to return to Paris. But she left behind a son, Eugene of Savoy. He was an ambitious teenager with visions of glory, but he found the royal court had become frustratingly inhospitable to him because of what happened to his mother.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He tried asking the king for a position in the French army, but he was turned away from that as well. So he followed his mother's lead and left France. Instead of Belgium, Eugene traveled to Austria, where he pledged his allegiance to the Habsburgs and Leopold I, ruler of the Holy Roman Empire. There he entered the military, and he served the empire for decades with great success. Today, he's considered one of the most successful military commanders in modern European history. His list of accomplishments is long, and it wouldn't be fair to boil his achievements
Starting point is 00:21:18 down to one event. But it is fair to say that his power as a general was a major reason why the Holy Roman Empire and her allies defeated France in the Nine Years' War, crushing France's aggressive expansion into Europe. Oh, and putting an end to the plans of the one man he hated more than anyone else, the man who turned him away after ruining his mother's life, a man he couldn't help but view as his biggest rival. King Louis XIV
Starting point is 00:22:02 The story of Catherine Mavoisin is one of political intrigue and deadly ambition. But that's nothing new to those familiar with the history of France. Coming up after this brief sponsor break, I want to introduce you to a brand new podcast I've helped create. The very first episode premieres tomorrow, and it begins in France. This is a show you don't want to miss. So stick around to hear all about it. One of my jobs as an executive producer for iHeart podcasts is that I get to help shepherd
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Starting point is 00:23:30 So sit back, make yourself comfortable, and enjoy this taste of Noble Blood. And when you're done, be sure to subscribe to Noble Blood on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart radio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts. She was the 15th child of the Empress Maria Teresa and was only gifted with the prize roll of Dauphine of France thanks to random happenstance, an unlikely circumstance befalling her older sisters. Her education, up until that last minute betrothal, had been minimal. But even if she wasn't studious, she was beautiful and charming and agreeable, she
Starting point is 00:24:09 would be happy in France, marrying the awkward young prince, only a few months her senior. But even if she wasn't, her happiness wasn't the point. She was a pawn to secure an alliance between Austria and France. Twenty-two years after she became a French princess, after two decades of decadence in the most cultured and luxurious palace in the world, Marie Antoinette was alone in a cell in the heart of Paris, with mobs outside calling for her head to join that of her husband and her friends in the guillotine. Marie Antoinette's prison cell at the Conciergerie was not a place of warmth and kindness, but
Starting point is 00:24:51 the jailkeeper, Madame Richard, tried to make the woman who had once lived in a palace comfortable. Madame Richard, who ran the Conciergerie with her husband, had watched the queen hang a small golden watch on the wall of her cell, the only bit of adornment in the dark room where the walls dripped and moaning could be heard from all hours of the night. It was a gift from long ago from her mother, the Empress Maria Therese. Madame Richard had also watched the guards confiscate the watch five days later. The queen was mostly quiet after that.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Her hands stayed in her laps. She thanked the guards when they brought her food and thanked Madame Richard when the jailer brought fresh flowers to the cell before those two were banned. One afternoon, to try to cheer up the queen, Madame Richard brought her own son to the prison. Marie Antoinette had always famously loved children. She once stopped her carriage to help a poor boy on the street. Paying for his boarding and education, she had clutched her own children to her so tightly
Starting point is 00:25:56 and for so long that Versailles had wagged their tongues at her overindulgence. When Madame Richard's son, Fan Fan, arrived at the Conciergerie, Marie Antoinette burst into tears. For the first time in weeks, her voice rose above a whisper. She wailed while hugging the boy, pulling her arms tighter and tighter around him. It was a cry of misery. Fan Fan was seven at the time, the same age as Marie Antoinette's son, Louis Charles, imprisoned somewhere far away, being reeducated by revolutionaries.
Starting point is 00:26:31 When Madame Richard took her son's hand and led him back into the hall, she confessed to a maid that she had made a mistake and she would never again bring Fan Fan to visit Marie Antoinette. Six months prior, Marie Antoinette's family had all been together for what would be the last time. It was the night before the former king Louis XVI's execution and the man, now called Louis Cappette, was permitted one last meal. Marie Antoinette and Louis' younger sister, Elizabeth, cried the entire evening while
Starting point is 00:27:03 the children, a boy and a girl, looked up at their stoic father with wide, watery eyes. Promise me, the ones king said to his children, that you will not seek revenge for those who do this to me. Little Louis Charles nodded his head. Marie Antoinette would not stop her weeping. She and her husband had been married for 23 years. Louis XVI had never taken a mistress. Perhaps if he had, things would have been easier for his queen, someone else to deflect
Starting point is 00:27:35 the gossip and attention. But I was far too late to try to imagine how things might have been different. Louis XVI had been sentenced to death and his head would be on the guillotine the next morning. To stop his wife and his sister and his children from crying, Louis promised that he would see them tomorrow morning, that he would say one final goodbye. This was just good night, we'll say goodbye tomorrow morning, he lied. The next morning, Marie Antoinette, now called the widow Cappette, was taken to a new prison
Starting point is 00:28:08 cell. This episode of Lore was written and produced by me, Aaron Mankey, with research by Marseille Croquettes and music by Chad Lawson. If you love today's story and want to dive deeper, I highly recommend a book called The Affair of the Poisons, written by Anne Somerset. It's readily available on Amazon and if you want to learn more about Lavois's story, you really need to grab this book. Lore is much more than just a podcast.
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