Lore - Lore 245: Evasive

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Variety is the spice of life. And yet folklore makes it very clear just how dangerous it is to mix things up.  Written and produced by Aaron Mahnke, with research by Cassandra de Alba, and music by C...had Lawson.   Lore Resources:  Episode Music: lorepodcast.com/music  Episode Sources: lorepodcast.com/sources  All the shows from Grim & Mild: www.grimandmild.com   Sponsors: BetterHelp: Lore is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp.com/LORE, and get on your way to being your best self. Acorns: Acorns helps you automatically save & invest for your future. Head to acorns.com/lore to sign up for Acorns to start saving and investing for your future today! Factor: Chef-crafted, dietitian-approved meals delivered right to your door. Head to FactorMeals.com/LORE50 and use code LORE50 to get 50% off.   To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com, or visit our listing here. ©2024 Aaron Mahnke. All rights reserved.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Lego. Sadly, I don't remember what this toy was called, but I can describe it. It was a tray that held three pieces of plastic that combined to form one larger plate, and on each of them were raised drawings. The full set had a number of complete drawings of fantastic creatures, but the plates had been split into top, middle, and lower thirds, allowing kids to mix and match them. Want the feet of a bear, but the torso of a dragon and a human head, just find the pieces and put them together. And when you've built the
Starting point is 00:01:17 perfect set, you could place a piece of paper over all of them, and rub a crayon over the raised drawings, giving you the perfect home-brewed coloring page to complete. It's an ancient fascination, really. The combination of various parts into an unnatural hybrid. It's been a feature of the sci-fi genre for nearly a century and a half, too, showing up in early hits like the island of Dr. Maraud by H. G. Wells and modern blockbusters like Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It seems that we will never get tired of remixing the world around us. As you'd expect, this hasn't always been done for pure entertainment. In a world before photography and instant global publishing, news traveled glacially slow, giving it the chance to shift and change over time. One whispered story of a mysterious animal could easily become a larger-than-life legend of a monster that most people were only too happy to believe. Of course, believability isn't the same thing as truth, but throughout history, folklore has put a handful
Starting point is 00:02:17 of creatures on the map that represent the opposite problem, stories that are fantastical in almost every way, and yet, despite centuries of exploration and scientific advancement, have left us with an unsettling possibility. Some of them, it seems. Might actually be real. I'm Aaron Mankee, and this is lore. It's the sort of thing that you'd expect to see in one of those historical mystery thrillers
Starting point is 00:02:59 like the Da Vinci code. A large Renaissance manuscript complete with decorative drop caps and rustic type setting, and on nearly every page, the woodcut of some new, oftentimes strange type of creature. A lot of books like that have been published over the centuries, but if you want a gigantic 4,500 page exploration of that sort of thing, Historia and Amalia by Conrad Gezzner is the place to start, but be warned, it's certainly a thick journey to take. Gezzner was a Swiss naturalist and physician, born in 1516 in the city of Zurich.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Some historians refer to him as the Swiss Pliny, hinting at the Roman historical writer Pliny the Elder, and maybe that's okay. Gezzner certainly was prolific. Over the course of his career, he published 72 books and left another 18 manuscripts behind when he died in 1565 at the young age of just 49. Historia and Amalia was his five-value masterwork. Each book focused on a different type of living creature with one on birds, another on reptiles, and yet another on land animals who gave birth to live young rather than through eggs.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But the one I want to guide you toward today was all about fish, and inside that massive home are some pretty amazing creatures. Take for example the sea monk. No this wasn't an aquatic spinoff of the hit detective comedy show. These creatures were first spotted as far back as the 1200s, and documented by a guy named Albertus Magnus. He was a scientist and philosopher, as well as a the 1200s, and documented by a guy named Albertus Magnus. He was a scientist and philosopher, as well as a Dominican friar, and he brought all of those skills into his description.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The C-Monk was a mysterious fish that had a head covered in white flesh, except for a band of darker color near the top. It reminded people of the way monks would shave the tops of their heads, leaving a band of hair just above their ears. But below that human-like feature, the sea monk had the mouth and teeth of a fish. And they weren't very nice, apparently. Legend has it that these creatures
Starting point is 00:04:54 would lure travelers out of their ships and into the water, after which the sea monk would capture them and drag them down into the depths, and would then eat them. People were still talking about the sea monk's centuries later, too. A French naturalist wrote about the creature in the mid-1500s, although he called it a monkfish, not to be confused with the real monkfish that we know today. A lot of the French accounts of the creature seemed to pinpoint its home as the Baltic Sea, in the waters off the coast of Sweden. So, when Gessner published his collection of aquatic animals, he included
Starting point is 00:05:25 the popular sea monk in the book. He pretty much borrowed everything from the French stories from just a couple of years earlier and even reproduced the same illustration. Although to be fair, it's an image that would fit better into an episode of Scooby-Doo than Aquaman. The drawing shows what appears to be a frightened or excited monk, a real human religious guy, wearing what looks like a fish outfit. It's honestly not very frightening at all, but pretty dang entertaining regardless. And then there was the sea bishop.
Starting point is 00:05:54 First spotted at the southern end of the Baltic Sea near Poland, this fishy monster was immediately brought to the king. It said that once it was standing before the ruler, this sea bishop made gestures that suggested that it wanted to go back into the water, possibly even making the sign of the cross. Hence the name, right? See Bishop. The illustration that accompanies this creature in Gezzner's book shows a mostly humanoid figure standing on two legs, arms stretched out to show pointy fingers, and a bishop's hat upon its head. Honestly, the only thing fishy about the drawing at all is that the guy's shirt and hat
Starting point is 00:06:28 are covered in scales. A couple more examples for those of you who love a good, fantastical menagerie. Gezzner did manage to include sea monsters that weren't members of the clergy. One of those was the Iqthio Centar, which was basically just fish centars. They had the upper body of a human, the back legs of a horse, and the tail of a fish. Gezzner himself referred to them as sea satir, or sea demons, but if you're trying to conjure up images of a normal Centaur with a fish tail stapled on, you'd be wrong. Gezzner's illustration shows something more hideous, with a face like a dog, human arms that end in crab light claws, and a long, curving body of a fish. And lastly, there's the sea monkey. Technically referred to as the
Starting point is 00:07:12 Simea Marina in Gezzner's writings, the sea monkey looks absolutely nothing like those ads you used to find in the back of old comic books. What did they look like? Well the illustration shows what is essentially a fish with the head of a monkey. A monkey whose fanged mouth is open in a horrifying scream. And look, these are fun creatures to explore, aren't they? Ancient sketches that represent the artist's whimsical creativity more than real life experience. Conrad Gezzner's Simea Marina and Catholic Fish Combo's honestly just seemed like bizarre fantasies, overactive imaginations that created a hybrid of what we know and what we fear. Two centuries later though, a respected naturalist would make a report that called all of these
Starting point is 00:07:59 notions into question. Sometimes we have to know the person before we can understand their work. George Stellar was born in what is today Germany back in 1709 and eventually trained as a botanist and a surgeon. And those were skills that led him to Russia, where he worked as a physician to an archbishop in St. Petersburg. Now Steller was an interesting fellow. His hero was another German naturalist named Daniel Messerschmitt, although hero might
Starting point is 00:08:38 not be strong enough of a word for his obsession. When Messerschmitt died in 1735, Stellar apparently sought out and wooed the man's widow Brigita. They got married two years later. Like I said, Stellar was obsessed. Their marriage wouldn't last long though. Less than a year after their wedding, Stellar headed out on a scientific expedition and he would never return. But the experiences and writings that he left behind highlighted a different kind of marriage. The intersection of folklore and evidence. In 1740, George Stellar found himself on board a ship called the St. Peter, which was part
Starting point is 00:09:13 of a mission to sail east from Russia and up into the northern Pacific in what some historians call the Great Northern Expedition, looking for a passage from Russia to North America. And if that makes you think of things like the Bering Sea and the Bering Strait off the coast of Alaska, you're right on target. In fact, the captain of the ship that Stellar was on was a Dutch guy named Vitus Bering. Their journey had a lot of problems, though. Bering hated Stellar, which made tensions on the ship a bit strained, and he kept him trapped on board for nearly the entire journey. He stepped foot on land only twice, and one of those times was due to the St. Peter
Starting point is 00:09:49 wrecking on an uninhabited island. Baring died there, and today that island, like the sea around him, is named after him. And there you have the general context, but don't worry, Stellar's journey did yield something that you and I would find interesting. On August 10th of 1741, while sailing a little south of Kodiak Island, the crew spotted an unusual creature. So unusual that they spent over two hours watching it, trying to figure out what it was. Stellar described it as roughly four feet long, with a dog-like face, pointed ears, and
Starting point is 00:10:21 a body covered in long hair. The coloring was odd too, reddish white on the belly, but gray on the back. He also noted how the creature's face appeared to have a mustache that looked a lot like the stereotypical Chinese mustache known as the Fuman Choo, which is long and hangs down on each side of the mouth. It wasn't an otter, at least according to Stellar's
Starting point is 00:10:42 description of it. This animal's body ended in a fish-like tail, which it used to swim incredibly fast, as well as raise itself nearly halfway out of the water. And it did this over and over, too, remaining there for minutes at a time, just sort of watching the humans on the ship, moving its eyes from face to face in utter fascination. And clearly, the feelings were mutual. Stellar took notes, and everyone else muttered and chatted among themselves. They even watched as the creature performed tricks with a large piece of seaweed.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And because of all of this, do you know what Stellar called this mysterious animal? He channeled his inner conrad gezzner and referred to it as a simia marina. The sea monkey. Over the years people have debated what exactly it was that Stellar and the others had witnessed. A seal or an otter are the most common explanations. But again, Stellar was an accomplished naturalist. He knew how to spot undiscovered creatures. There are a bunch that still bear his name today too, like the Stellar's seagull and Stellar's
Starting point is 00:11:43 seakow. Basically, he knew his stuff, so a lot of people doubt that it was a mistake. And maybe the answer can be found in a story from two centuries later. Back in 1965, a sailor named Miles Smeaton was out off the coast of Atka Island, which is part of that long, curving tale that extends out from Alaska into the Bering Sea. Smeaton wasn't alone either, his daughter and another friend were also on board, and they spotted something odd. It was an animal about the size of a sheep with long hair all over its body that seemed
Starting point is 00:12:15 to be gray on the back and red on the belly. Smeaton's daughter pointed out that the creature's head looked a lot like that of a dog, and hanging down from the nose on both sides of its mouth were, and I quote, drooping Chinese whiskers. If George Stellar had taken the time to ask the indigenous peoples of Alaska, he would have been pleasantly surprised. They had their own stories of a creature in the waters there, described as a man-like seal, with the head and face of the former and the body of the latter.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And they seemed to have acted as bad omens, too, which might actually explain his later shipwreck. In some tales, it said that if a hunter managed to pull one of these man seals to shore in their net, it was a sign that misfortune was headed their way, and the creature existed beyond the oral tradition too, showing up in a number of carvings and painted art objects. Back in 1910 there was an anthropologist working with the indigenous peoples farther north at the geographical top of the Alaskan coast, at Point Barrow.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And while he was working there, he did some hunting, just sort of exploring the area and soaking in the sights and sounds. One day he spotted a creature similar to the one stellar had seen. It apparently raised its head out of the water right in front of him, and it frightened him so much that he rushed back to the local village and told the indigenous hunters about it. I can imagine them laughing a bit at him, but also murmuring with wonder. There was a lot of healthy respect for the creature there, but they did tell him that it was a shame he hadn't killed it, because if he had, he would have been blessed with
Starting point is 00:14:01 the power to successfully hunt any animal he wished. Now of course, Seal-like creatures aren't unique to Alaska. Long time listeners of this show will remember discussions about another mythical being known as the Selky. What's often forgotten though is that Selky as a term comes from the old Scott's word Selk, which means Seal. And you see that connection in a lot of the stories. Selkeys are often portrayed as seals that can come ashore and shed their skins to take on human form.
Starting point is 00:14:31 According to legend, you could tell if a person was one by checking their hands or feet for webbing between their fingers and toes. And in most stories, if their skin is stolen while they are in human form, they'll be trapped on dry land until they get their skin back. Where did they come from?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Well, there are a lot of theories in that little corner of folklore. Some thought that selkeys were fallen angels, punished to live on earth. Others whispered that they were once human, but had committed grave crimes, and were doomed to live forever as seals. In some stories, selkeys can only transform once a year at mid-summer's eve, and others it's possible to do so every nine nights. In almost all of the tales though, the Selkis are presented as seducers of humans. One common explanation for when young women went missing was that, of course, a Selkis had taken her to be his bride.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Many Selkis stories have a sort of happily ever after vibe, with perhaps a hint of darkness. But I want to leave you today with one that's a bit less mainstream and a whole lot more horrifying. It comes from the remote Faroe Islands, situated far north of Scotland, sort of equidistant to Norway and Iceland and the UK, and it begins like so many other selky stories tend to do. In the tale we meet a man who was walking to an evening Christmas Church service. His path takes him along the coast, and as he passes a spot with a rocky cave high above the path, he notices two things. One, there seems to be a party going on inside the cave, and two, there's a large pile of seal skins on the beach nearby.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Stopping for a moment, he picks through the skins and plucks out one of the smaller ones, tucking it under his coat. Perhaps sensing trouble, the people in the cave above, elves, it turns out, come running down to the beach, and each one grabs their skin, throws it over their shoulders, and dashes for the water. All but one. When the rush is over, the man looks up to see one of the young female elves still there, no seal skin in her hand.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And you know how this plays out, right? She asks him for her skin back, but the man refuses. He soon uses this as leverage to make the girl marry him. The couple go on to have a number of children, and the man keeps his unwilling wife's magical seal skin locked in a trunk, always keeping the key with him so she can never leave. Romantic, right? One day the husband leaves his seal wife home with the kids while he heads out to attend
Starting point is 00:16:54 yet another Christmas service. But when he had changed out of his work clothes into something a bit more fancy, he forgot to take the key with him. So she grabs it, unlocks the trunk, and retrieves her stolen skin. Like I said, that's the typical beginning to these stories. But in the version from the Pharaoh Islands, there's more. After regaining her magical skin, she hides all of the knives in the house and even puts out the fire, hoping that it will disarm her husband, literally and figuratively.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And of course, she returns to the sea and to her selky husband. So happily ever after, right? Well, not really. One day she gets word that her human husband is planning a massive seal hunt, so she uses her magical powers to appear to him in a dream the night before. She warns him not to kill the large male seal who is her beloved husband, and she describes her two seal children to him as well, and begs him to spare them. And the guy? Well, he ignores her. On the day of the hunt, he and the others kill indiscriminately.
Starting point is 00:17:56 In the process, the selky woman's entire family is slaughtered. Honestly, it's a bloodbath, and a sort of gruesome element that used to exist in a lot of folktales before a big media company started cleaning them up and making them friendly. Back at the house, the hunter and his friends are dividing up their catch when the silky woman burst through the door. Not in human form this time though, but as an enormous troll, she notices a certain smell in the air and glances at the fire where a big pot of stew is boiling away. Stew that contains the flesh of her husband and two children. Furious at what he and the others had done, she cursed them all, but sadly no curse could ever bring
Starting point is 00:18:39 her dead family back to life. People tend to have a certain opinion about how the world around them should function, and sure there's a lot of variety to those world views, with some leaning a bit too far into Utopia and other standing firmly on the side of evil. But at least when it comes to the wildlife of planet earth, we're mostly unified. Which is why the oddities always stand out to us. Think back to the first time you ever learned about the platypus, which looks like someone stitched a duck's bill onto a beaver that always makes people stop and think because it breaks those unspoken rules.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They don't seem, well, natural. At the end of the day, the work of people like Conrad Guestner and George Stellar might leave us with volumes of animals that only existed in the imaginations of their day and age, but they also serve as proof of our fascination with the unexpected, the rule breakers, and the what ifs. And it still happens today, by the way. You don't need a 16th century naturalist to find examples of creatures that defy our expectations.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Just look at the rumors that flew around in 1938 in the summer resort town of Lasaga Beach in Ontario, Canada. In early June of that year, a mysterious creature was reportedly spotted in the water just offshore. A creature that everyone agreed was seal-like, but not a seal. Descriptions of the animal claim that it was roughly 8 feet long, dark in color, and thick, but despite that, it swam at an unnatural speed. Sightings always happened in the early evening, between 6 and 8 pm, and typically in a spot
Starting point is 00:20:27 of water that was about 200 yards offshore where the water was deeper. According to an article from the Daily Sun Times that summer, it has a round head like a seal, and it can swim as fast as any motorboat. Now the first person to spot the creature was a woman named Mary Mar. Although this being the 1930s, the papers didn't interview her, instead they asked her husband to hummus the questions. He said that at first he thought it was just an abandoned canoe, so he climbed into his own boats to row out and retrieve it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 When he got within 15 yards, though, Marr claimed that the shape suddenly sped off and vanished from sight, and I quote, churning up rollers like a steamer. He had lived in the area for over 25 years and had never seen anything like it. Word spread quickly, as news about such things has a tendency to do, and of course there were theories about what it might be. One man even made a strong case for the creature actually being a loon, which he believed hovered so low over the water that it cast a shadow and made it look massive and dark. I do need to say though that Mary and Thomas Marr owned a grocery store right there along
Starting point is 00:21:33 the beach, directly in line with the evening sightings, and thanks to the rumors and excitement over the legend that meant that more and more people were coming to visit, and in the process, spending more cash at the Mars shop. One reporter noticed this coincidence, and Thomas is even quoted in the paper as saying, no sir, we don't sell beer here. Still, it certainly makes you wonder. As for the truth, well no evidence was ever found. For skeptics, that's clear proof that the sightings were nothing more than wild rumour. For the believers, it meant that there was still hope that the creature might
Starting point is 00:22:08 be found. Both sides have a shot at being right. That is, of course, until the monster finally shows its face. I hope you've enjoyed today's tour through some of folklore's oddest animal hybrids. Fish with monks' haircuts, underwater bishops, screaming fish monkeys. You name it the pages of history seem to have it. But we're not done just yet. I've saved one last tale to share with you. Stick around through this brief sponsor break to hear all about it.
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Starting point is 00:25:55 and use the code lore50 to get 50% off. That's code lore50 at facturemeals.com slash lore50 to get 50% off. at FactorMeeals.com slash lore 50 to get 50% off. It's hard to shock people who work at a slaughterhouse, but in 1886, that's exactly what happened. They worked at Franklin Junction on the north island of New Zealand near the city of Hamilton. Someone had left a 70-pound sheep carcass hanging on a hook, only to come back and find it completely picked clean, right down to the bones, but not everything was gone. Whatever had done it had left behind a clue. Strange, bloody, reptilian footprints that
Starting point is 00:26:42 led away from the carcass and out to the nearby creek. Newspapers of the time referred to it as a Saurian monster, the word hinting at any kind of large lizard. Just think of it this way. Saurian puts the Saur in dinosaur. Naturally, people started to feel threatened and afraid. Men began to set up watch in the area with rifles in hand while they waited for the monster's return. There were rumors that it was spotted again here or there with one witness claiming that it resembled a sea serpent with the head of an alligator. Another witness, a boy, said that the monster chased him all the way home.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Other sightings placed the monster in the nearby river. There were many stories of the creature thrashing the waves with its massive tail. Two men who were trying to cross the river in a canoe reported that the beast almost capsized them, and they got a good look at it in the process. Long body like an alligator, massive jaws filled with razor sharp teeth, and entirely covered in shaggy black hair. Almost overnight, the monster became the bogeyman for everything. Folks remembered how a local Maori girl was found dead near the river the previous year, the flesh stripped clean from one of her arms. Obviously they said, the beast was responsible.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Here's the trouble though. New Zealand doesn't have any reptiles that are over a few inches long, and certainly no alligators. Although some people theorize that an alligator could have been brought over from Australia, except Australia has crocodiles, not alligators. But what New Zealand does have is folklore. In Maori tradition, there's a creature known as the Taniva, which is sort of like their version of a dragon or a serpent. They typically live in natural places, too, like caves and lakes and rivers. Later that year, in November of 1886, a similar creature was spotted on the other side of Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:28:31 One witness claimed that he had seen it over two dozen times and gave the same description as before, long snout, seven or so feet long, and covered in black hair. And this time, people of the area managed to capture it. When they did, they claimed that it turned out to just be a grey seal. The trouble is that type of seal doesn't live in New Zealand. One other person, though, managed to kill the Soory and Monster about a year later. A local police man in Ragland Harbor told the newspapers that he stumbled upon the monster sleeping on the beach, so he pulled out his gun and put two bullets through
Starting point is 00:29:04 its head. The newspaper article also includes the monster's dimensions. It was 12 feet long, 6 feet around, and instead of a tail, it had two weird, screw-shaped propeller-like things. Apparently, the animal's corpse was even dissected to learn more, and then its skin and bones were removed for preservation, later being set up for display in Auckland. Which means that we could all go and see it now and figure out what it really was, right? Well, not so fast. You see, just a week after the preserved monster was installed, the store it was inside of, cut fire, and everything burned to the ground.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Sometimes, the truth is evasive. Just when you have the fingers of your mind wrapped around it, it suddenly slips away. This episode of lore was written and produced by me, Erin Manke, with research by Cassandra De Alba and music by Chad Lawson. Don't like ads? We've got a solution. There's a paid version of lore on Apple podcasts and Patreon that is 100% ad-free. Plus, subscribers get many weekly episodes called Lorebites. It's a bargain for all that ad-free storytelling, and a great way to support this show and the team behind it.
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