Loremen Podcast - Loremen S6Ep21 - Prince Edward, Island

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Do you struggle to tell the difference between Prince Edward Island, the Canadian province, and Prince Edward the Duke of Edinburgh (15th in line to the throne AT TIME OF RECORDING)? If nothing else, this episode will teach you which of the two produces 25% of Canada's potatoes. Plus, you can expect a bunch of cryptids sprung from the pages of Chasing North American Monsters by Jason Offutt (and thanks to the publisher, Llewellyn, for sending us a copy). P.S. Keep listening after the music for a clip from this week's bonus episode, available in full to our Patreons. This episode was edited by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joseph Burrows - Audio Editor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the LoreFolk at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/loremenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ko-fi.com/loremen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check the sweet, sweet merch here... ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.teepublic.com/stores/loremen-podcast?ref_id=24631⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @loremenpod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/loremenpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/loremenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/loremenpod⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Welcome to Lawmen, a podcast about local legends and obscure curiosities from days of yore. I'm James Shake Shaft. I'm Alistair Beckett King. And I'm going to tell you some stories about some cryptids. Cryptids. Yes, cryptids.

You like a cryptid, don't you, James? And these cryptids come all the way from Canada in North America. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you betcha. Apologies in advance to Canadians as a little taster. That should give you a taste of how respectful we're going to be if these are the accents. And specifically to the people of Prince Edward the Island. Alistair Beckett King. James Shake Shaft. I've got, well, look, we've got a whole bunch of stuff to get through today.

A lot of admin. This is a very admin episode. There's a bit of admin because we've been given a book. Have we? A whole book that is not even out yet. It doesn't come out till September 2025. Wow. We've been sent this by Llewellyn Publications, Kat Neff at Llewellyn Publications contacted

me and said, can I send you this book? I think it'd be right up your street. She's obviously the publisher. So, you know, it's in her interest and it's by Jason Offutt and it's called Chasing North American Monsters. That sounds very unadvisable. It is, as it says, a guide to over 250 creatures from Greenland to Guatemala. I've been leafing through it and yeah, it's got a more, it's got loads in there.

It's all cryptid and it's a very enjoyable time and it's actually inspired me to do a couple of stories for you. Oh, great. So it's a catalog of cryptids. It's a catalog of cryptids and I'm going to your friend of mine, Canada. Oh, Canada. going to your friend of mine, Canada. Oh, Canada.

And I've got some pretty spooky stuff from Prince Edward Island. I ask in advance, will you be doing any Canadian accents, James? I will be having a go. Yes. Alistair, I have found some tales from Prince Edward Island. Oh, where's that? That's in Canada. Okay.

Of course, Canada. Right. Is that where the that? That's in Canada. Okay. If of course Canada, right. Is that where the potatoes come from? Alistair, I'm going to do a little quiz because obviously Prince Edward is also a member of the Royal family, the Duke of Edinburgh, the current Duke of Edinburgh at time of recording. So I'm going to just do a little quiz just to kind of- I don't think I can picture this guy. I don't think I know anything about him. Well, weirdly Prince Edward.

I don't want to give too much away because that might spoil my quiz. The answers to the quiz are either Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh or Prince Edward Island. Right. Never the potato. So first of all, no way it's King Edward. The potato King Edward is the potato King Edward, Prince Edward, I guess, would be maybe a salad potato. The potato is dead.

Long live the King potato. That's not how that phrase works. Okay. So quiz answers to this quiz are either Prince Edward Island or Prince Edward. Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh. Right. Some of these facts have come from picky Weedia, which is, okay. You didn't use the AI overview for any of these facts.

Did you James? No, I did not. This is a legitimate quiz ripped from Wikipedia and chasing North American monsters. Okay. Let's hear it. Was it Prince Edward Island or Prince Edward Edward the Duke of Edinburgh that dropped from third in line to the throne at birth to 15th in line to the British throne at time of recording? I'm going to say I think that was the man and not the island.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Correct. Tick. Because islands aren't born. That's just a little thing I noticed. Okay. Well, you know Cause I look islands aren't born. That's just a little thing I noticed. Okay. Well, you know, tiny clue in the question. Don't show you, don't show you, you don't need to show you workings. Okay. But I want to.

Is the smallest Canadian province 2,195 square miles. Definitely the Duke of Edinburgh. Again. No, it was Prince Edward Island. It was the island that time. Yes. I suppose people don't normally measure people in square square meters. He's not 2,195 square miles big.

Okay. 146,280 people live on it. Prince Edward Island or Prince Edward the man? Can I ask a follow-up question, whether you count fleas, bacteria or any kind of parasites as people? Any kind of parasite. I mean, if he has bacteria living on him, do they count as people? No, in that case, I'm going to go island. Okay, great. Which is made up of a main Island and 231 minor islands?

Probably the Island. Okay. Which issued the correct, that's correct. Which issued a statement, vending the British public was the very last thing I would have wanted to do after having been reported of saying that the British people hate anyone who succeeds and America is where the money is. Oh, is that Prince Edward Island or Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh?

Well, I can't see a Canadian Island being that complimentary about the States. So, although I don't think they would be rude. I am going to say that was the Duke of Edinburgh again. Okay. Which one worked as a that was the Duke of Edinburgh again. Okay. Which one worked as a production assistant on Phantom of the Opera, Starlight Express and Cats? I would prefer it to have been the island. Yeah, a small Canadian island.

Yeah, worked with Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber at the really useful theatre company. Just standing outside the stage door having a cigarette with the other techs. They're like, flipping Lord Weber. Is that your final answer? Yeah. My final answer is that the island worked on Starlight Express. It was Prince Edward the Duke of Edinburgh, 15th in line to the throne at the time of recording. Was it Prince Edward Island or Prince Edward the Duke of Edinburgh that dropped out of the Royal Marine Commando Course training despite the Royal Marines having sponsored their university degree at Jesus College Cambridge? Clearly, I don't think anybody goes from a successful military career to

working in musicals. So I think it's the same guy again. It's the Duke of Edinburgh. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The island again. Yeah. No, I don't think they would let a, would they let a Canadian island train in the Royal Marines? Well, it's part of the Commonwealth. Yeah, maybe.

No, it was Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh who did that. And do you know what? It turns out he went to Jesus College, Cambridge. Maybe. No, it was Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh who did that. And do you know what? It turns out he went to Jesus college, Cambridge, his A levels were a C and two Ds. Interesting. Interesting. I wonder how that happened. There's no Prince everywhere. It's for all of us.

Okay. Final question in this quiz. I haven't been keeping track of the scores Alistair, but I don't think you're winning. Which produces 25% of Canada's potatoes? I would love it if they just popped out of the Duke of Edinburgh in a time leaf manner and Canadian farmers had to just follow him around with a basket of some kind waiting for a new potato to plop out. Like Donkey Kong drops bananas in Mario Kart 1.

But no, I think it's probably the island. Yeah, you're right. So I was right about potatoes. I was unwittingly correct that this was a potato-related island, even though I briefly forgot the name of the King Edward. I don't know. I mean, it can't be that the King Edwards come from Prince Edward Island. Surely an island can't spawn potatoes that are of a higher rank than it.

Impossible. That can't, that's not how hereditary works. It'd be awful being on an island that was outranked by a potato. Yeah. It's own produce. But Alistair, I didn't bring you here to do a quiz. I did bring you here to do a quiz, but I didn't bring you here just to do a quiz based on Prince Edward Island and Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh.

It was really good. And I think people probably enjoyed playing along. It's amazing how unambiguously different a man and an island are such that it's impossible to not know which is the correct answer. That's true. That is true. But you did very well. You hit very well.

You hit it well. Okay. But we've got some monsters on Prince Edward Island. There are some scary monsters around that area. Of course, there are no monsters associated with the British Royal family. So the West Point Serpent. So the indigenous peoples of this area are called the Mi'kmaq. They warned some of the first Europeans that came to Prince Edward Island of a gigantic snake that swam upon the water.

And it didn't take long for settlers to encounter the serpent, which was seen as being between 12 and 79 feet long. 79. How could you know it wasn't 80? I don't know. They must have said under 80. I guess so. Are we talking about an oarfish type thing?

That sounds like an oarfish. Now I've heard about oarfish. Which yeah, breaking, an oarfish washed up, didn't it? Recently. Yes, there was an oarfish in the news. It's usually a sign of doom. Armageddon fish or something. It's a very bad sign for the or fish. Definitely. Absolutely. But a good sign for sushi chefs is they're already in sort of

Mackie roll shape and you can just shut up. Just top them up. So it was a yeah, it's a tube like monster. The West Point Serpent with with short reddish brown dark fur. Oh, I didn't expect fur. You don't get many furry creatures in the sea. No, not like the otter, I suppose. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Mammals outside of mammals though. I've said this before, I think on the podcast, if you line up an otter, a seal, a sea lion and a dolphin, you can really see how evolution works. From a little bear to a fishy thing.

It's like, oh right. Yeah. Those are all the stages in between. I see. But yes, this is covered in short reddish brown, dark fur and has the head of a horse. Okay. Okay. Well, you buried the lead.

Yeah. It's got a horse's head. I was sort of leading you up the tail to the horse head. So yeah, the body was made of humps that kind of rose and fell in the water as it moved like your classic image of your Nessie. Oh yeah, your classic Nessie. Yeah. But, I mean, that was a while ago that that happened, but sightings have continued.

Carol Livingston, a local woman, in 1980, her father and great uncle saw it when fishing in a boat near the lighthouse. And it was 60 to 80 feet long, this serpent that approached them. And it raised its horse-like head, stared at them, and then just simply swam away. Oh, that must have been a fair 79 feet long. Oh yeah. She might've said, that's my impression of Carol Livingston, the Canadian woman. That's very good. It's about, it's about 79 feet, I'd say.

Oh yeah. Is that Prince Edward the person as well? He's 75 feet long. No, the impression. The impression. Yeah. It applies to him too. Oh yeah. Andrew Lloyd Webber, you should do another song and dance number here.

And then about nine people reported seeing it between July and August, 92. And then in 2002, so roughly 10 year intervals, it seems this, this serpent thing appears in 2002, Alison Ellis, his grandson and his great grandson. So we've got the granddad, the grandson and the great grandson where the sun is, is not mentioned. They were riding ATVs on the beach, which is so cool. ATVs I think it's like quad bikes, like all terrain vehicles, which I think, I

think ATV is American for quad bike. So they were ragging that up and down on the beach and then something rose out of the ocean. This is Alison Ellis, who is an 83 year old Canadian. So he's sorry, he talks a little bit like all the other Canadian accents I've been trying to do. Said there was no ripple in the water. Just outside the bar, there was a head sticking out of the water about a feet, about two feet

or so. I'm 83 years old and never seen or heard anything that could explain what I saw then. So that's the, that not my words, by the way, Alison, the words of Alison Ellis, grandfather. Not your words. No. Oh, sorry. I thought the words of Alison Ellis, grandfather. Not, not your words. No. Oh, sorry. I thought the grandfather was called Alison. Yeah, that is the grandfather.

Alison is the... Alison Ellis is the grandfather. Yes. Alison is an unusual name for a man. It's got two L's. So it makes me wonder if it's pronounced different. Like Welsh. I look, I don't judge.

Achlison. Achlison Echlis. I'm sure it's not that. I'm sure it's not that. I'm sure it's not as best said like that. Yeah, he was speaking to the Island Press Limited, which is a newspaper. Oh guys, come on, believe in yourselves newspaper. You can do anything. Yeah.

You could be the Island Press Unlimited. You could spit out 26% of Canada's potatoes if you tried hard enough. And when was this happening? The eighties? That was in 2002. Oh, wow. So hold on a minute. Sorry. A local newspaper was still in operation in 2002. That is the most extraordinary and unlikely thing so far. And given it's the Island Press Limited, its readership is a maximum of 146,283 on living over the 232 islands that make up Prince Edward Island, the island, not the man. So yeah, fair play to him. Don't know if they're still

around now though. And it was still, it had been going in the nineties in 92 because it reported that nine people had seen it between July and August. But that's not the only monster. How can one Island have more than one monster? Well, this one is actually a whole bunch of monsters. It's called the slough or slough, which comes from Scottish and which translates as the host of the dead. Very chilling. Yeah.

It's a, it's a spin-off of house of the dead and it's, it's a chat show. Arcade game. It's a chat. Very chilling. Yeah. It's a spin-off of House of the Dead and it's a chat show. Arcade game. It's a chat show with zombies. Yeah. That was a really good game. House of the Dead. Yeah. When you were in the arcades as a teen. Definitely. Straight to House of the Dead. Do you ever play typing of the dead?

No. There's a typing game version of House of the dead, which is supposed to sort of teach you keyboard skills. You have to type bang and stuff. Pyo Pyo. Reload. You had to type out words quicker, quick enough to stop the zombies, basically. Oh, great idea. The typing of the dead, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the slough, the slough, the host of the dead, which is based on old Scottish mythology. Now what the slough is, they are a large flock of, they kind of look like black birds, but they're like these sort of creepy wizened winged creatures. Yeah.

I'm just trying to create a soundscape. That's nice. They flock and they carry away people. Oh, yeah. And apparently each bird is the spirit of a sinner or maybe simply someone who's unbaptized. Equally bad. Very not.

Very, very bad. Very not. If you're not being baptized. It's just clearly your fault. It's simply rude. Or they are like the souls of warriors that died in battle. And the slore would, it would pick you up from your home at night if you left your windows open.

I was going to say, how do they get in? But they've thought of that. Yeah. That's, I, I always wondered why I was worried about leaving windows open at night. And it's, it's for that reason. It's cause of the slore. Mostly to be honest, they would pick people up who are walking alone outside in the dark.

I was going to say that I have a real job getting a person out of a window. Yeah. Especially as a whole bunch of birds. I feel like I'm not particularly strong, but I feel like I've probably braced myself against a window frame to prevent a bird from carrying me off. A bunch of birds, to be fair, it's a bunch of birds, but you also need to fit that many birds through the window. I feel a bit like, you know, Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds.

Oh, you know, I don't know anyone. I don't know anyone else's The Birds. Well, Daphne de Marnier wrote the book, but yeah, okay, the film. Although I suppose if you would say, you know, The Birds, I don't know you're talking about a film. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I know birds. The first time I saw it, my main impression was that it isn't very scary because essentially birds aren't very scary. You know, I now think it's a great film, but at the first time I watched it, I was like, this is not, I'm not scared at all of these birds. But I think the premise of it is

whatever thing that isn't scary was scaring everyone. Do you know what I mean? Because it's isn't scary was scaring everyone. Do you know what I mean? Cause it's the, it's the, just the quotidian ordinariness of the birds that makes it sinister. Yeah. And they're everywhere and you don't really notice. Yes, exactly. But I still don't think they could actually pull me through a window.

You'd not, you'd not even seen Jaws at that point. So you weren't like, no, I hadn't seen Jaws. Oh, it's not, it's not as scary as this big shark. I don't know that a shark could pull me through a window. I think in, in my house, I would't seen yours. Oh, it's not, it's not as scary as a big shark. I don't know that a shark could pull me through a window. I think in my house, I would have the advantage. Cause you'd be able to brace yourself against that window. Against the window frame. Yeah, brace yourself against the frame.

What about a flock of sharks? No, yeah, no, the sharks would win. Just going to check the group word for sharks. I guess they're a fish, so I guess it's a school. The sharks move in packs. It's called a shiver. A shiver of sharks. A shiver of sharks.

Oh, that's good. That is nice. But equally unlikely to pluck you whilst walking alone outside at night. A shark, I mean. No, if it does happen, shame on you. And sometimes the people would just simply never return, but some did. And they'd wake in the woods miles from their home with no idea how they got there. Oh, so they'd be, I didn't realize that I was asleep while being carried

out of the window by birds. Oh, so you would find it difficult to sleep brace yourself. Yeah. That explains it. But I think the coring might wake you. But I think the coring might wake you. I was famously woken up by a bat and that's just fluttering. Famously. Yeah.

That time. Leading almost everybody who listens to this to email you about rabies. Yeah. It wasn't, we checked. It wasn't rabies listener. No, we weren't scratched. I mean, we checked. James hasn't got rabies.

We would know by now. It would have changed the tone of the podcast. I just dislike water. I prefer Ribena. It's just a matter of taste. And as Jason says here, at the end of the section on the slough, there were many encounters in the town of Bayfield and there's a swampy area there, which is where the demon birds were supposed to live.

Demon birds, the Bayfield swamp. Yes. Very atmospheric. And there's less reports of it nowadays, but long time area residents remember stories. Weird, isn't it? How the presence of cameras on everyone's phone has somehow stopped ghosts and monsters from appearing almost every week. Hey, put a pin in that.

Oh, okay. Put a pin in that. Another business okay. Put a pin in that. Another business speak. We're going to circle back. Oh, we're going to circle back. As long as we, as long as we get to it before the end of play. Oh, definitely. If we don't, I will reach out to you.

We will synergize at a later date. So next up, I've got fairies. There, there are fairies on the Prince Edward Island. Why did you say that like a Doctor Who villain? Prince Edward Island. Prince Edward Island? Weirdly, they are supposed to live on Fairy Hill. He's got a ray that turns royal family members into islands. Yeah. I need to halt production of potatoes. It's too many potatoes.

No, the fairies, they live on Fairy Hill, unsurprisingly. I don't know if the, which came first, the name or the idea that fairies lived there. And they also live in the woods of Prince Edward Island and you could hear their lilting voices and laughter and they would lure people to their doom in the woods. Lure? Lure them, yes. Have you seen that explanation for that kind of stuff though? No, I don't think so.

Is it a jackdaw that's a really good mimic? Is that the right type of bird? Speaking of birds being scary, have you heard of the birds, Alastair? I've heard about birds, yes. The jackdaw? The animals. Yeah, it's the Jackdaw is like a better mimic than the parrot. It's just not as good PR. It's always the way, isn't it? You know, that's how you know in this business. Yeah. Jackdaw is a really good mimic and they're quite,

you know, there's a lot of them about in woods and stuff. And so if you had someone who, you know, there's a lot of them about in woods and stuff. And so if you had someone who, you know, would routinely walk through the woods whistling, yeah, for 20 years, and then they died, and then you hear the noise of whistling from where they used to walk through the woods. Oh, brilliant. It's probably a jackdaw. I think I've heard them doing impressions of logging equipment. Oh, right. Not like- Which is kind of sad, but still impressive that it sounds like, you know, a saw. It's really accurate. And it will scare people when there's no trees there at all.

I did presume you were going to say Frank Spencer from Some Others Do Have Them. But it is also quite sad because no one gets that reference. I'm sure some people have now looked up who Frank Spencer was. I hope some people have and at least watch the credit sequence because it's, you know, there's some good physical comedy in that. But Alistair, that brings us to, you remember that pin we put in that thing earlier? We are currently finished circling back because that pin was in a thing called the Prince Edward Island Bigfoot. Oh, are you telling me you've got pics, James? Are you telling me you've got Bigfoot pics?

I've got hot Bigfoot pics. Wow. Which I'm pretty sure is definitely what's in it. You do have to be careful about pretty sure is definitely Google that. Cause the internet remembers everything. So you've got to think about how you research this carefully. James, even the classic, you know, the classic Bigfoot thing we've talked about it before the classic Bigfoot video.

Yeah. The video of big food is like step step. Yeah. We looking at that, which only recently I realized Bigfoot's boobs. But anyway, Nathan Wiley, a musician and Prince Edward Island native, was making a film in 2001. And in that film, they're shooting a baddie running across a field and then out of the background of the trees, a dark figure

comes out on all fours and then stands up onto two feet and runs off. And I've watched that video, Alistair. And it looks like a man in a costume messing around. It's like a man in a costume messing around. Mason. No way, James, because are you telling me that a musician would do some kind of publicity stunt? The video has been labeled a hoax, but- Wiley the guy who did the hoax said- Nathan Wiley said- Nathan Wiley. Wiley Nathan.

I'm sorry, Nathan Wiley. You're a person who is making music. And I listened to some of your music earlier and I quite liked it. The only, he doesn't talk like this. He doesn't talk like an 83 year old. Do Nathan Fielder. Nathan Fielder. He's the only Canadian Nathan I can liked it. The only, he doesn't talk like this. He doesn't talk like an 83 year old. Do Nathan Fielder. Nathan Fielder. Is the only Canadian Nathan I can think of. Is he Canadian? Sure thing, yeah.

You never can tell. The only, the only one there that got any kind of real look at it was a camera guy. The rest of us had to wait to check the footage. And Nathan said, he told the endangered left, which is a website. The endangered left. I don't know what is it sounds political. Yeah, it sounds very like like the political group I belong to.

It appears to be reporting on Bigfoot's. Okay. I never is the left leg more under threat than the right? Maybe. So they're finding more, more right feet. It's just there's, they are endangered and there's a few of them left. Oh, left as in remaining. Yeah.

Maybe, maybe. It's a confusing name though. Yeah. Maybe I should have Googled it at least beforehand, but he told them that, I never rule anything out as a hoax. There's a lot of things we don't understand. I just don't get too hung up on naming them, which is fair enough. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. The website could have done with a better, better naming convention, because it is very, they've picked words that have multiple meanings. Alastair, those are the tales of Prince Edward, the island, not the person. Prince Edward, the person that did actually produce a couple of ghost programmes, by the way. Oh really? Yeah.

He exec produced as part of his production company. Really? Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals and pseudo documentaries about ghosts. We don't need them. We don't need them. Useless. He was the host and associate producer of the 1996 film, Edward on Edward. Edward on Edward?

Edward on Edward. Yes. Is that about himself? I don't know. I'm guessing it was some sort of documentary. It's not hyperlinked on Wikipedia. I'm guessing it's some sort of documentary about him or him looking up one of the previous Edwards.

It could have been him on the island. Edward and I. That would have been good. And then he also did Castle Ghosts of Scotland, Castle Ghosts of Ireland. Actually, that sounds interesting. Yeah. Once upon a Christmas and the sequel, twice upon a Christmas. And he was the narrator of the 2015 film, Whatever Happened to the Windsors. Stop making documentaries about yourself, you weirdo. Nobody cares. Two more ghosts.

Yeah, more ghost stuff. Ghost things now. Right. So, are you ready to score? Yes. Great. I would love to pass judgment on both the island and the man, Prince Edward. I feel I've actually scuppered my high scoring here.

Okay. Right then. So first up, naming. Names. We've got Prince Edward Island. A funny name for an island, yes. Prince Edward the Duke of Edinburgh, 15th in line to the throne at time of recording. A funny name for a talentless hack.

The really useful theatre company, speaking of people. We had, well, we had Chasing North American Monsters. That's the name of the book that got sent to us. Very exciting. I think for me this is lives or dies on the names of the monsters themselves, which were the Slore. The Slore, yes. Quite good. And what was the first one called?

It was just called the West Point Serpent. The Mi'kmaq people. Yeah, that's good. What about the fake beast of the forest? What was it called? That was just called the Prince Edward Island Bigfoot. Because Wiley refused to give it a name. Yeah, he doesn't like, he doesn't get too hung up on naming things.

He doesn't like labels. Well, I'm sorry, James, that's going to hurt your score. That's going to bring it down to a three, I'm afraid. Okay. That's, so it's a three. Second, second category, supernatural. Well, very. I think the, the- Imagine getting into Cambridge with a C and two Ds. Yeah, it's just not right. No, that's impossible, you would think, but it has happened. That goes against all laws of nature. Yeah. Mmm.

Imagine producing 25% of Canada's potatoes. It is impressive that he did that, to be fair. We've got the slaw. We've got a flock of demon spirits in the format. The flock that carries you off and drops you in the woods, very good. Yes. Even the jackdaw with its uncanny voice is adding to the spookiness. It's pretty spooky. And the West Point Serpent is between 12 and 79 feet long.

Someone saw a kid, a kid version and then a grown up version. Because that's like saying, that's like saying humans are between one and seven feet tall. Which is accurate, but a weird way of putting it. It is a weird way of putting it. Yeah. I don't think the supernatural, I think it's probably just a long fish. Okay. And I think the third one is faked.

And yeah, so do a lot of people. So we've got, I think we've got about two counts of supernatural. Fairies in the slough. Oh, there's the fairies as well. Okay. I think it's another three then. All right. It was a good, it was a good episode, but the scores are not reflecting that James.

No. Okay. Okay. My next category, 25% of Canada's potatoes. Yeah. I can see now why you've seeded that information so subtly. The listener won't even have noticed that you brought up. Barely.

How many times did you mention that? At least 25% of Canada's potatoes. By now, certainly five times. Minimum. Yeah. I suppose. I mean, it's weird because. Minimum. Yeah, I suppose. I mean, it's weird because that's a quarter. Yeah. It's a quarter of Canada's potatoes, which is a lot.

But it's weird to give five out of five for a quarter of Canada's potatoes. But they do produce all of a quarter of Canada's potatoes. Uh-huh. So I guess it's got to be five out of five. Yes. Perfect. Perfect. Only because five doesn't neatly go into quarters. Yes. That's good. I think. I'm just going to move on from that maths to the final category.

It's a bit confusing. Is that your category? Yeah. And it's said like that and it's in quote marks. It's a bit confusing calling an island Prince Edward Island when Prince Edward actually exists as a thing and probably did exist at the time. Because, you know. Presumably it was named after a different Prince Edward in the past. I would hope so. There is another Prince Edward.

And not named in anticipation of the current Prince Edward. We are actually running a minimum two Prince Edward society because there is the other Prince Edward is that, you know, that one that they show on the news or they show to sort of show that the Royal family is really old and you know, the really old guy. Not really, no. You occasionally see him, he looks like someone's doing a weekend at Bernie's. I don't like to be judgy of people, but I think he can take it because he's a royal. He's 89 and they occasionally show him looking

startled in the back of a car, but he always has exactly the same expression. Mason- So we've got redundancies basically built in. Jason- Yeah. That's a spare Prince Edward. Mason- Vis-a-vis. Jason- If the island goes down, boom, we move to Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh. Mason- Yeah. If the island goes down, boom, we move to Prince Edward, the Duke of Edinburgh. Yeah. And he needs to get producing them potatoes. But if he fails, then we have to move to the 80 year old guy to make all of Canada's potatoes.

And that is... What do you mean all? Surely you mean 25% of Canada's potatoes. That's true. But I think, you know what? I think he could do it. With his O levels, no doubt, no idea what his qualifications are. We've got the confusion of the slur. Is it unbaptized people? Is it, oh, the wild hunt? Because that's also, also the slur is linked to the wild hunt. Is it just some angry birds? I can see that. Yeah. The original Angry Birds. Yeah. Yes. We've got the confusion of Nathan Wiley, which must happen quite a lot because he does not like naming things. He doesn't like naming things.

Despite having produced three albums, all with names. Really? Imagine when he sends those files in. Yeah, the demo tapes or just on titles. Just numbers. What else is confusing? My quiz was confusing. It quiz was confusing. It was very confusing. I just did not know which was an island and which was a man. And Prince Edward, is that the one that's piercing? No, that's Prince Albert. Okay. Okay. But you know what? You could probably pierce a Prince Edward.

The potato? No, that's a King Edward. I'm confused. Again, I'm confused. Yeah. There's so much confusion here. It's very confusing. I think it's a four out of five. Nice. Because it's so confusing. I meant to give you five, but I've accidentally given you four. That's fair enough. Okay. I can see how that could have happened. Just a confusing episode.

Thanks for keeping up. Very confusing. Yeah. There is a whole extra bit of bonus stuff which you can access if you go to patreon.com forward slash lawmen pod. Thank you to all the people who already do support us via that medium and thank you to Joe for editing this. Yeah, cheers Joe.

Thank you Alistair for listening to me talk about the Royal Family for quite so long. I know that took a lot for you. Thank you very much to Kat at Llewelyn Publications for sending us that book. Yeah, thanks very much Kat and thanks very much very much to you, the listener for listening. Thank you. Bye. I've had to press record mid-conversation here, Alistair. Okay. We're on record now. We're on the record and we want people to weigh in on this.

Yeah. The train station in London, that's also on the monopoly set, people outside of London, you'll have said it. Is it Marleybone? Because I think it is. I think it's, I always thought it was Marleybone, but I overheard seemingly a Londoner on the train the other day telling someone it was Mariloban. And they said on the, cause on the announcements on the train, cause I get a train that goes into Marleybone, they do say London, Marilabone or something weird like that. Yeah.

Cause it's met, is it named after Mary Le Bon who presumably is like Simon Le Bon's mum or something.