LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - Así AJUSTABA CUENTAS trabajando en la MAÑA

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What happened, my Amort? How's the way? Have you been a new chapter here of your new new chapter.
Starting point is 00:00:07 Sikisksh Sivisksvienes. Resulta that we did we do the invitation to make an for people who
Starting point is 00:00:14 want to talk us stories and resulta that we know, and we say that this person
Starting point is 00:00:21 would say this person could be this batto us will to talk anecdotes things,
Starting point is 00:00:28 details, is that, many many don't understand of the part of
Starting point is 00:00:33 how it the adjusts. Ajuste of counts. Well, you, we all
Starting point is 00:00:39 we know that that that's met to the rue to the maja, pete
Starting point is 00:00:45 prestado, pete fiato. Me you know, all that all this people, of those
Starting point is 00:00:52 are, that the person is a bit, well, my jit, that's fulano is a
Starting point is 00:00:56 pendeo, no me care they're going to cobrate. So this person that we have done
Starting point is 00:01:02 the day of today, the menta-gast him, we're going to those anecdotes and details.
Starting point is 00:01:10 What on my Gasparin? How we we go? Well, we're doing? It's all my app.
Starting point is 00:01:15 All right? All right? That's all. That's all. That's why. I'm Gaspar and I'm
Starting point is 00:01:22 said, this, well, let's to talk a little of what is
Starting point is 00:01:28 to be going to get into the maja. We're just justing accounts, adjusting accounts
Starting point is 00:01:34 then the things that they're doing and that they're to pay. Let's let's
Starting point is 00:01:40 first question my Gasparine. Resulted Pa that one of the one of the that's
Starting point is 00:01:47 that we're that people who that they pay infiado to the maja
Starting point is 00:01:52 a maja. A example, that addictor or that puchador or that, if we're to put a
Starting point is 00:02:01 puchador that he's a same patron. So, he does a fair and there and the of the portions
Starting point is 00:02:09 that he and he's he not he's, how, how he does it for that
Starting point is 00:02:14 he's he has to pay? He has because are, some, are things
Starting point is 00:02:21 that he can to him do, for that he is a responsible of that that's
Starting point is 00:02:26 that they they're that's, he, he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:02:30 he's he's, if it did a bad you know, well, so if a
Starting point is 00:02:35 we've said, this p. no, our, our time, our time, our way.
Starting point is 00:02:43 First, a tablisa. A tablisa. A tablisa. If no paid the money, if she
Starting point is 00:02:47 was he wanted to where he was, then we're, then our I'd try to go for him and to get him and to get it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It was, well, the money is to pay because, yeah, to bego, hebo,
Starting point is 00:03:00 he has to pay, no, the patron no, the, the, he's,
Starting point is 00:03:04 if he, if he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah, with cameras. In all the points, they're in all the points, for, for checker, that, that had
Starting point is 00:03:33 passed that. Okay. A de point that's, we'll put him to have to prove it, he went,
Starting point is 00:03:43 you're, you went, you're, they'd, they'd get in therapy, va? What did you
Starting point is 00:03:48 to, for, to, for, to, or what? No, well,
Starting point is 00:03:52 a, a torture a turtura we. First, we've been, if in the point where,
Starting point is 00:03:59 where, where I, where I, I'd, we'd a tablisa there. There's,
Starting point is 00:04:04 there's, there's, there's, in the point. Yeah, if not, if not he'd
Starting point is 00:04:08 cause, if not, but the majority of the best, they always, they'd not,
Starting point is 00:04:14 it were, like, they'd they're, but, because, and, and me
Starting point is 00:04:19 I imagine that it was that's that's no no, but but, well,
Starting point is 00:04:24 so, but, you're up to get to doleer. Awah fresh,
Starting point is 00:04:29 me, pa. If they were up to 10,000 pesos, how tablasso
Starting point is 00:04:35 he was, they were, they were, they're, uh, a tablazzo for every
Starting point is 00:04:39 100. For every 100? Oh, my, too, how many, how are,
Starting point is 00:04:46 how many, Hermes? A, how how many, I just so. But it's. No, sientablasos.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Sientablasos? Your mother, way. Countaditos. Sientablas, me, water, fresh. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:04 then this person if, if, they'd pay those 10,000 or they'd give in interests?
Starting point is 00:05:14 No, it was, the pure 10,000? The pure 10,000, yeah. And let me, to continue to work
Starting point is 00:05:18 Or what proceed? Yeah, no, yeah I said, yeah, he'd ask, if I'd keep saying
Starting point is 00:05:23 shamey- but for the Rasa they're, they're going to continue to do you,
Starting point is 00:05:28 so, they're still they're they're making, I'm going to make a
Starting point is 00:05:34 make a mean, but the majority of the people in a point
Starting point is 00:05:38 of a puchador, they're there, because there they're in the money
Starting point is 00:05:44 the dosis to consume it. So, so. So, so, they're
Starting point is 00:05:48 they're not that the patron they want to pay them. They're not. They're not. Yes,
Starting point is 00:05:54 they're not. Yes, they're they're the money. Because, well, of what, of what they
Starting point is 00:06:01 they're doing they're and they're they're going to those, guys. It's for that they're
Starting point is 00:06:09 to work to work to do. Normally, if you have this data, no?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Normally, a puchador, how can't garner, way? No, I don't know I think
Starting point is 00:06:22 I think Pura loquera Garner, yeah, but in quantities how would I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:28 Desconoscow I see. But if they they're they're not,
Starting point is 00:06:34 no, not those kackeen Pekin' you think? More
Starting point is 00:06:39 or less a $3,500 to a a week? A
Starting point is 00:06:43 a same or Kincenna? A the same no,
Starting point is 00:06:46 it doesn't a same no, it imagineate, way,
Starting point is 00:06:50 that $3,500 in doses they're auto-pagam. A-la-verga, in a moment, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:07:01 it's, it's, it's, it's, a, um, a, with the,
Starting point is 00:07:06 with, with the, some of the doses, yeah, tell me a, tell me one. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:07:11 I, when I was I was I was in- , like, the, like, of the bars,
Starting point is 00:07:16 where I, and, and one a, with two packets of material and for a good
Starting point is 00:07:25 time the way without then back to and when he said when he and when
Starting point is 00:07:31 he was he was what was two packets were two packets? it was in that time
Starting point is 00:07:38 were like two thousand three thousand baros and well that he even even
Starting point is 00:07:43 even after he came I remember that that was with a cuchara the guy
Starting point is 00:07:47 calient and he paid that's, so, like a cup
Starting point is 00:07:51 like a curate, I'm a, I'm a little, I'm in the car and where's
Starting point is 00:07:58 you're in the car at the catchetto? Here in the catchet to. He left the mark
Starting point is 00:08:04 the way. And what he said, no, Simon, you know, well, well,
Starting point is 00:08:08 well, and then the last now the the, the parents of him were the
Starting point is 00:08:11 were the were the they were asado because asado, because as he was,
Starting point is 00:08:19 the of that that fairia then me in salsa. It's like that you
Starting point is 00:08:26 are you are responsible of this or so it's a carena well to you
Starting point is 00:08:31 do you do you repartes in the points and that has to pay report to
Starting point is 00:08:37 report to with you with the with the patron if that point no
Starting point is 00:08:42 no so not not report to you you can you can
Starting point is 00:08:47 you have to put to you well, to me to pay that feree
Starting point is 00:08:50 to me that that's yeah, yeah, what he's what he's my, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:54 yeah, oh, and I'm and there's other things, there's the doubt
Starting point is 00:09:02 of, how they do they for to cover those money, an approximately
Starting point is 00:09:09 100, 000 well, yeah not of a point, a point, no,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I think that's that I don't know that they do it to the patron. No,
Starting point is 00:09:18 well, it was to go for them and to have them and if
Starting point is 00:09:23 not they they're not for the way to for with Jenny Rivera so like
Starting point is 00:09:29 never never never there in the time that you took
Starting point is 00:09:35 to work like that that that that he gave 100,000
Starting point is 00:09:41 I go that they're for him and that they were they're
Starting point is 00:09:44 they're there got there got to there never was like a
Starting point is 00:09:49 or, or, or, or, so, a a other
Starting point is 00:09:53 the only the thing, it was to pay, that they were,
Starting point is 00:09:58 if no, the mafia no, the mafia no pardon. So, so it was, and so
Starting point is 00:10:06 it's, and so it's always will be to be. Dicen for there.
Starting point is 00:10:10 In the case, in the case, boy, of this, um, how
Starting point is 00:10:18 to do you I can't ask this, way. What was the, the,
Starting point is 00:10:22 the, the, the, the, the, the most great that it took
Starting point is 00:10:26 to cover, we. No, pos, they were, if there were in millions,
Starting point is 00:10:32 millions of pesos? Millions of pesos. A, tell me, how,
Starting point is 00:10:37 how, how was that? No, there, there, there, they,
Starting point is 00:10:41 they're, because, the maja is, is, there, there, there,
Starting point is 00:10:48 there, there there people that that move quantities very
Starting point is 00:10:52 of the valley of, if you get it's
Starting point is 00:10:56 like people people that mow per peric crystal
Starting point is 00:11:02 of what whatever then then there things that were
Starting point is 00:11:09 we're we're we're we're to go for the person that's and they
Starting point is 00:11:14 they're a occasion that a bato us took up for him and he had
Starting point is 00:11:21 no I think 750 kilos of perico and my my friend and the
Starting point is 00:11:29 and the bato and he they were of piquitos of piquitos but were they
Starting point is 00:11:34 were in dollars the bata was he was that that was it was
Starting point is 00:11:40 he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was
Starting point is 00:11:46 he was he was he was he was Pagued. No, you do you know
Starting point is 00:11:50 how millions of dollars were? I think were a
Starting point is 00:11:55 million $250 $250,000 $250,000. Oh, my my man.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And it has a little way. No, I think it
Starting point is 00:12:07 was a little less of a tonelada. How about
Starting point is 00:12:12 cost in that time? The kilo. I think about
Starting point is 00:12:18 $1,000 $1,000 kilo of perico. A be, $11,000 $11,000 $750
Starting point is 00:12:31 kilos, it was 8,250,000. I got me I'm very short. No, super-corto, way.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Super-corto, Padino. You felled the count there. But, way, tanted money
Starting point is 00:12:49 the bato paid, way. How did you do? to be what they said, what you
Starting point is 00:12:55 did you, what, you know, the, we, we tableableable we, we're able to,
Starting point is 00:12:59 until the that the batto, no, no, I know, no, I, have,
Starting point is 00:13:04 there, that the chief was that, he, we, we said, we, and the
Starting point is 00:13:10 batto and the batto and he, he was, a tablisa, he took the baton?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, tablice, and tablice, and therapy, uh, terror. One, a,
Starting point is 00:13:22 some, some, a, some, a, Any terror, way, that you this is one of the things more
Starting point is 00:13:28 more than you can't do you. An menacear it with the family. With what you're going to do for his kids, for her, for his husband, or, let me know, so.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Although not it were to do you, that was the worst therapy that you could get to someone. Psychological, uh? It's the, the terror
Starting point is 00:13:49 more great that the people. But how, but how do you? An example. I imagine that you
Starting point is 00:13:58 not you were just, there were no, we're not, we're we're saying,
Starting point is 00:14:02 you know, but he said, that's, that's, where I'm, that's, how he
Starting point is 00:14:09 would go to go to his and that, we'd go to, well, now we
Starting point is 00:14:13 we'd be to do you want to, and the bato, then you put a, then you
Starting point is 00:14:20 then you when you metes the terror, well, and you And, yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:14:25 the bato us, we're, no, well, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:14:29 and I'm , just say, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:14:33 I, to, I, to, I, and, yeah, all, we,
Starting point is 00:14:39 we're, we're, and he, and he, and he, and then, well, so,
Starting point is 00:14:45 wait, to be, there, there, there, to be, to be, I,
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm, to be, thinking it, I think, or, or, I'm to,
Starting point is 00:14:56 to, a, a, a person a person a woman, but you're because
Starting point is 00:15:01 imagineate that your patron that's a debt, that's a deal, I mean, to pay
Starting point is 00:15:07 flettes, pay what what, what it's it's a business, that's a matter.
Starting point is 00:15:14 There's the fletero, there's the that the that's the that he'll do it, the can't,
Starting point is 00:15:17 the carche, the, the the that's the transports all the all the all the
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's no more being the the chief, then even being the chief there's a to palate
Starting point is 00:15:32 money to to the government to put to a car to pay that so imagine if that that's a
Starting point is 00:15:36 money, how will do you do you do that you're to be fresh
Starting point is 00:15:42 me app or I'm too, I'm very well I'm so, so that's so
Starting point is 00:15:47 so it's so it's so so and it's and it's that yeah
Starting point is 00:15:51 way the the the of the narcotrific, way. Yeah is very to the
Starting point is 00:15:59 carlachs in the way. Yeah, the rest social is yeah the comments,
Starting point is 00:16:05 in videos, in photos, way, yeah, they're saying all right, yeah, to do you,
Starting point is 00:16:09 yeah, to do you, to do you? Yeah, no, the reddes socials they delat
Starting point is 00:16:15 a, a photo, one, you, they hackke in the telephone, you,
Starting point is 00:16:20 they're doing they're doing, they're, they're, never it's never it's
Starting point is 00:16:25 in this same case that we're talking about the bato he gotrary they gave to the
Starting point is 00:16:33 he was going and they he's he never never never it was no
Starting point is 00:16:40 well so it's that all was so if we were to let us we're
Starting point is 00:16:43 we're we're we're we're like like a like without
Starting point is 00:16:49 that they without that they're that's that's the pendent of your
Starting point is 00:16:52 house, of if he was, to get a where I'm to get to get to get to
Starting point is 00:16:56 get a and a bad, how do you? How do you do? There's people for
Starting point is 00:17:04 all. Never it took it never. I've know, I've seen, way,
Starting point is 00:17:09 that if has passed, we, we, no, we, no,
Starting point is 00:17:12 because there if it's he's he's he's the he proced no, but,
Starting point is 00:17:18 for a, one is the that, the, that, he does the ,
Starting point is 00:17:21 If discuid that hale you carry a ever never
Starting point is 00:17:29 it took to way that you to get the table no
Starting point is 00:17:33 never I never I never you never you
Starting point is 00:17:37 in questions to cobrer way the the countas
Starting point is 00:17:44 what was the case most more more more
Starting point is 00:17:48 more that you took to do that that
Starting point is 00:17:52 person was a to do with her? Well, that's for the I told. Because always I always
Starting point is 00:18:02 trai a scold to the bato. Oh, I mean, let me. How was it? That's the batto
Starting point is 00:18:07 always had a school that was with him, he was to wherever that he was. Until the day
Starting point is 00:18:14 that we went to, this day no, that day, no, a scolta is,
Starting point is 00:18:20 is, is to give the life for who who can for who can he pays, for who
Starting point is 00:18:26 So, if we were, we'd we'd to be a careteo, then a
Starting point is 00:18:32 balacera. And for so no we'd because, because, because, like,
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'd be to spaces public, also we would be to risk to the other people.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So, then, so, until that one day it, we, we,
Starting point is 00:18:50 we've, four, five, months, after, five, the way that he, that he was to make
Starting point is 00:18:57 the way that he he was made for him. And how they knew that he was he? Because
Starting point is 00:19:03 no he was from his house, no, no, he was with him,
Starting point is 00:19:06 and he took it, he went to a, a, a, he made, and there
Starting point is 00:19:13 me, he made him, he merr he went, he went, and we're two, two cars,
Starting point is 00:19:20 two cars. Yes, man, and in-calient, in front of his family, w'i. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Well, let's say, no. No, no, that the family not that's been in the thing that's about in the way.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And it's something, way, that I know, that's going to be to hear what I'm saying, but
Starting point is 00:19:44 what you're when you when you know, when you know, when you know, but all you know, but you
Starting point is 00:19:55 see, that's the thing, we, so they're doing the car's and, and it's, and it's,
Starting point is 00:20:01 the net. how. How many are so many have been to a family of one
Starting point is 00:20:06 whoy that he, that he he's yeah, well, we know, in the time
Starting point is 00:20:15 that I never never me took, never me took to go for an
Starting point is 00:20:19 innocent and much less, the people that, that, I didn't that,
Starting point is 00:20:24 because obviously when you go's and you're you're never never that someone
Starting point is 00:20:30 so that someone's that you you've you've been you've been you've you've
Starting point is 00:20:32 or people that in the point in where you get a in the point, and you're you know, but if not
Starting point is 00:20:39 it's not it's let's put, leave them and it's like, and, like, that's,
Starting point is 00:20:46 way, that they went for a someone, and the equivocation that they did it,
Starting point is 00:20:50 and how it was, well? Well, one time it took that we went to,
Starting point is 00:20:54 we're, to, and a material of now so, that's like, of the chapuline,
Starting point is 00:20:59 so so it he said. So, we're we're to get him to get him
Starting point is 00:21:07 he, he was going to he was going to or not he, or at the more he had a tricycle the way,
Starting point is 00:21:14 and we know we'll get him and we're when the interrogation, the bato result was that he,
Starting point is 00:21:20 he was, let me go to go ahead to go ahead. The we'd let him, to let him we,
Starting point is 00:21:27 to him, to the other way, to that's no. That's no. That's he's he's
Starting point is 00:21:32 he's ultimately the the people comment much about those chapulines way
Starting point is 00:21:40 that's a chapuline I know for other termino but yeah in the maja
Starting point is 00:21:45 it's he knows for other other cause well well well
Starting point is 00:21:49 so a chapulim is like the the the the
Starting point is 00:21:54 crystal of the contras or the drug of the drug that
Starting point is 00:21:59 they don't have permissos. Yes, that no they're permission to
Starting point is 00:22:01 sell. Because when when it's the maja that's the local the local,
Starting point is 00:22:09 the that's fissue, they're they're paying, if I'm explain,
Starting point is 00:22:17 to the government, pager, they're a ching of mammadas then. And the
Starting point is 00:22:22 chapulin, no, the chapulin came and they're just the material that he
Starting point is 00:22:26 try, and he not he Paga no the government
Starting point is 00:22:30 or no no no no no no no
Starting point is 00:22:32 no no that's the that's the that's the chapuline well
Starting point is 00:22:36 so so we're that we yeah yeah yeah so
Starting point is 00:22:44 if it has to be to be for the simple actually not for
Starting point is 00:22:47 the competition but because that so that's so
Starting point is 00:22:52 so so let say we say so it
Starting point is 00:22:56 can be that lumbre a pedos and that no report a car and she's like to try to Juan Kamanei and Bola, he put to sell of his material.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yes, it's a little alignia, well, to if if it's aline, it begins to vendor for, for here, and if not it,
Starting point is 00:23:15 it's, they are, three opportunities of the that they do. But the first opportunity, a chinga.
Starting point is 00:23:22 A puttisa, and that's a-al-in-a- but there there were, there were cases that you're
Starting point is 00:23:28 all in the and they're going to for one and for the other. And not that's a
Starting point is 00:23:35 good. And no, that's not so not, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:23:37 no, no, no, I'm, I'm, so, and how they're
Starting point is 00:23:43 to, way, that, that, that, that, that, they're,
Starting point is 00:23:46 like, that, it's, it's that the people, it's that the same to,
Starting point is 00:23:53 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for to get, by, because,
Starting point is 00:23:55 to be good with one and one and say, no, fulanito of that's
Starting point is 00:23:59 and it's we're we're going and we're we're we're we're so we're
Starting point is 00:24:05 to make to check to be to be sure to to make to they're
Starting point is 00:24:13 not just a bit put. Mandated to somebody. Man'd to someone
Starting point is 00:24:18 to get to get to to get to or even he went
Starting point is 00:24:22 about of the comer, of consumer, well. Existiran
Starting point is 00:24:30 much way, Chapulines. No, they're they're they're not they're
Starting point is 00:24:34 not they're even even knowing what is what they they're even
Starting point is 00:24:39 so. Why you? Because you're because it's an addiction what they're
Starting point is 00:24:46 that they're that they're that the majority always they're always they're they're
Starting point is 00:24:54 for consume them because as, as, as, as they're
Starting point is 00:24:58 more more they're in a amount more great, is for
Starting point is 00:25:04 that what what? What strategy? What do? You did you?
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's way, that's in the environment, for that they're not
Starting point is 00:25:15 they're they're they're they're because to what to be because to
Starting point is 00:25:19 me say, I'm many all the things. No, but all the
Starting point is 00:25:25 ways that have intended But what you you you think you
Starting point is 00:25:30 think you could be to work? Acabando with the menors grandes with those
Starting point is 00:25:35 are the they're they're in quantities in quantities because for the peces
Starting point is 00:25:42 gorgos that are those those those kilos of material just
Starting point is 00:25:49 just that would yeah because those guys are those they're
Starting point is 00:25:54 the history the history false to the consumers to the chapolincillos, those guys are
Starting point is 00:26:01 those who are the of the way, you're going to you're going, you're going to that idea of that they're that they're
Starting point is 00:26:08 paro. And no, no, no, no, there's paro for that they. Okay, like
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like, like, Like, Like, Like, Like, You're going to You're going to And you're going to
Starting point is 00:26:18 And you're To be To get And so- And the Yeah, So, So,
Starting point is 00:26:23 Mero. That way, The rasa In that So, that's a That's That's
Starting point is 00:26:31 In the Yeah, I'm In the Yeah, I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:26:36 I'm That's Yeah, And so When you At the Tronco No,
Starting point is 00:26:40 they can't they can't the telephone. Yes, so is. Oh, my Gasparin,
Starting point is 00:26:47 of this, when, when you get on de vending, whey, and you send the
Starting point is 00:26:54 hefe, if it's a woman, what is the way, boy, well, or?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Never me took. No, no, no, no, I never me took,
Starting point is 00:27:11 nor, not, or, for, for, one of of the companions
Starting point is 00:27:15 because also, no. Never me took that finance. Cress,
Starting point is 00:27:20 way, that if you've you've had been to do do you? Well,
Starting point is 00:27:23 so are orders, the orders, not don't question
Starting point is 00:27:25 and that's what the what what the people, way, a
Starting point is 00:27:33 sometimes don't understand boy. For example, the maja
Starting point is 00:27:38 and the exercity Mexican they're the same school the loco. Obviously
Starting point is 00:27:46 I feel I know that in the government there are different castigues to the castigues that you can't in the maia, well. And it's for that it's more
Starting point is 00:28:02 more dangerous to to be in the maia than the government. So, so I know, from my perspective. Yes, no, that's so. It's very much, very different.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Here, no, no, no, no, no, we don't detain us to nothing, because, we're doing what we're we're in,
Starting point is 00:28:19 but. And, like the government, when, when detiened to someone and they're
Starting point is 00:28:26 in some to get to have much in not go to do or things like, because,
Starting point is 00:28:32 because are, so, so, and we're, there's, there's, there's, there's,
Starting point is 00:28:38 or if they're saying, or, you're, it took, in some of the, of,
Starting point is 00:28:42 that, of, they're, they, that the patron they said, hey, but no
Starting point is 00:28:45 they do this, no, they're doing this, no, they're doing this. Yeah, so, many,
Starting point is 00:28:48 many of the cases, no, not they're not going to go to do you, it's
Starting point is 00:28:51 a trap VIP. Ah, so is the order. Hey, they're they're
Starting point is 00:28:55 fulano, but it's trato VIP. Why, why? What's, way? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:01 never, I never knew, but, but, well, I, I think
Starting point is 00:29:06 it was, because, we were we were to let us to let's hold
Starting point is 00:29:11 vivos. If the repent if we said, no, if
Starting point is 00:29:18 no, if not I'm whatever to do a tableisa or
Starting point is 00:29:21 this, but give it's just, five, 10, let me,
Starting point is 00:29:26 let me, until that to be, until that you, when you when they'd
Starting point is 00:29:36 when you didn't do you, when you, when you the obligation to, to,
Starting point is 00:29:41 to, the obligation, well, you, all to do, do, you,
Starting point is 00:29:46 all to do it, , never. Why? No I never I never I said
Starting point is 00:29:52 I'm gonna what I was what was my Hale and all I was yeah I had
Starting point is 00:29:58 the mentality of that that I was to do so if you you
Starting point is 00:30:03 did you yeah why why well well I I'm
Starting point is 00:30:10 oh I cabron because because because did you that was
Starting point is 00:30:17 what was what was that you'd like you to you're a person
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh, well, they were, they were people that they were, people,
Starting point is 00:30:29 people, that had had been made to something that people bad, but
Starting point is 00:30:36 even as that, what, you, you know, you know, you know, that person
Starting point is 00:30:43 because had made a lot or for what reason? Well, yeah, because,
Starting point is 00:30:48 because I was paying the that was that devia, although
Starting point is 00:30:53 not me was to my Hale, no, it was a order of yeah, it was my
Starting point is 00:30:59 chambah the time, the, to keep the and, like, I'd like,
Starting point is 00:31:07 as I was, like, it was it was it was it was the thing,
Starting point is 00:31:16 that was to be to be to the people that they did they were,
Starting point is 00:31:20 uh, tortura psychologica or? No, no, no, physical.
Starting point is 00:31:26 What? What? what action? For the tablazo or the crevada of the deados,
Starting point is 00:31:34 the one of the one of the pinces perras? Pinsas of the
Starting point is 00:31:43 electricist uh so just just just you know to make, let me
Starting point is 00:31:49 let's the grab you the end of the and after you doves so
Starting point is 00:31:56 like literally so yeah and And those Deos yeah
Starting point is 00:32:00 not servied or so. Who, who who can't be able to all the
Starting point is 00:32:05 all over all over? Something. That's what you that's what you Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Because because, because, what, the tron or the, the tronid and the
Starting point is 00:32:21 suffering that, but, and it was so, and it was so, no,
Starting point is 00:32:27 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:32:28 no, no, no, no, no, no no, no,
Starting point is 00:32:30 no, no, virga, way. Imagine if you. Pobre of you that I
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Starting point is 00:32:44 mow that way I'm so much that's things that way to in the
Starting point is 00:32:51 question of the question of debt because in si mirro he
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Starting point is 00:33:02 not use that that strategy well, you're going to and in the
Starting point is 00:33:10 business that you want you nobody want to get a merma if no, if no we're not,
Starting point is 00:33:19 if we did we're we're doing to be someone to say, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 you know, you're you're you're to pay. Because if you know to go
Starting point is 00:33:33 to do you're to dolan us, you're to the hell you know, and you
Starting point is 00:33:38 They knew that if not pay them I'd go to one and those I'd they're
Starting point is 00:33:43 they're never they've done a ballas boy no but
Starting point is 00:33:49 but so I've been it's been to be in traceteos well
Starting point is 00:33:54 how was one way well was we're we
Starting point is 00:33:58 just that's we're we're that repelial because for it's
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Starting point is 00:34:15 something so in puttisa we'd we'd we'd just be there just there put in
Starting point is 00:34:30 some moment wait you sent you that that you that that was that
Starting point is 00:34:35 he'd be a patron no because because well no no I know
Starting point is 00:34:43 I know I I know that's I'm the opportunity but no ambitioned
Starting point is 00:34:50 but I was so, what I was going to was very because if I skaled,
Starting point is 00:34:54 if I did get to escalar and so what I was coming was very well
Starting point is 00:35:01 well and I was and I yeah but not I was the
Starting point is 00:35:07 like the like the prisa then I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:35:11 being a but I did a a post well
Starting point is 00:35:15 was that supposed. Commandant, to be a commandant, to be your hen-
Starting point is 00:35:20 to try your own, my, my own my my own many, how's
Starting point is 00:35:29 how do you, how's groups, can, can, have, a chief normally? No,
Starting point is 00:35:38 so are a chingo, incantables. For example, you, and you how many cars,
Starting point is 00:35:45 you, I had two cars, were nine people that I'd my mando. Of the
Starting point is 00:35:59 caliber, what was the caliber that the most you'd be the 23 of R.
Starting point is 00:36:08 It's an R. And of the shortas the 9mm millimeters. That way how they
Starting point is 00:36:17 like they like the 9mm to the borgue yeah they're really
Starting point is 00:36:22 because why? Because they're they they're because they're
Starting point is 00:36:27 more precise and not they're, the shortas are more more tactics, you can
Starting point is 00:36:37 get a new very tactica and without you're you're in a good
Starting point is 00:36:41 putteria? Yeah. To what what you did you did you did you the coax
Starting point is 00:36:49 pa? In the pure a cabrown in the pure front the
Starting point is 00:36:55 way? How? How? How? How? How? How? How?
Starting point is 00:36:58 How? No, but not so so long so they're a
Starting point is 00:37:00 short distance of that that's but so some about
Starting point is 00:37:04 120 meters mrs whey 120 meters what would
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Starting point is 00:37:21 that so what what you what to that
Starting point is 00:37:25 people that they want to get in the
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Starting point is 00:37:50 light and you're good but there there was a
Starting point is 00:37:55 one we can we can we know we we can't but for that this
Starting point is 00:38:00 people that's being the chapter you're that's that they're
Starting point is 00:38:04 that they're that no, no if not if not it's for
Starting point is 00:38:11 this the net no not not not they're because
Starting point is 00:38:14 no they're to get in the blood then they're not
Starting point is 00:38:21 not it's like I want I'm I'm to get a man
Starting point is 00:38:26 to puller has one to, has one to, I, to have the character
Starting point is 00:38:35 and, and, for to be a person, to be to get and
Starting point is 00:38:40 and it has been to bring it in the blood. No, it's like you can
Starting point is 00:38:49 get and you're you're going to do you're to do? That's madre,
Starting point is 00:38:52 you You recommend or no, way? To I'm to do you?
Starting point is 00:39:04 I don't. No, no I don't recommend because well it's for this
Starting point is 00:39:12 mother. And if me took to see to be a much that just because
Starting point is 00:39:18 for mode that's they're to get and so I took to see me
Starting point is 00:39:22 to be to be to be the tendency is I want to do
Starting point is 00:39:28 to be to For For sub a photo to face to Instagram
Starting point is 00:39:33 with an arm and just just they were in the morros That's
Starting point is 00:39:39 so that way but there are there are others that are that they're
Starting point is 00:39:49 that not they don't they're that they're they're they're they're so
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm going to say I'm and it respect to what we've about
Starting point is 00:40:02 we're that we that for example, I know the net, wei, never,
Starting point is 00:40:09 never I'm, and me, I, and I would be, and, in the
Starting point is 00:40:16 rued of what is being, narco, boy. Narco, well, so,
Starting point is 00:40:21 it's, to, a, um, a, a, people, and,
Starting point is 00:40:24 that's, different paper in the, of that mother, then, pistoler,
Starting point is 00:40:31 puchador, uh, cob, quos, cobra the head that's that's a
Starting point is 00:40:41 word, it's a many rams never me I'm gonna one day I'm done,
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'm saying you're you're you're you're not, you're not you're not you're not
Starting point is 00:40:54 you're you're going to you're you're because the net are well you're well you're
Starting point is 00:40:58 really retirete the borg of this And he took the word of that because
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'm the way, because I'm not saying, then I'm to goy, is that when you that this
Starting point is 00:41:16 mother of the narcoculture is so so strong and it's so and not you imagine
Starting point is 00:41:25 all the pedo that try way even with the people innocents when you
Starting point is 00:41:31 when you when you when you talk about between cartels, or between cartels and government,
Starting point is 00:41:37 whey. That's put all all very cullero, boy. Imagine to, to,
Starting point is 00:41:44 at the level that I'm that you don't have to be in nothing to but you
Starting point is 00:41:52 have to get to that city because you can not can be chambi
Starting point is 00:41:57 not you can't, no you can, what is that's that's that is that
Starting point is 00:42:01 that's that's out of gus to way. You know, you're with the
Starting point is 00:42:05 end of all. So, imagineate what they're going to those that really are
Starting point is 00:42:10 they're really. They're not to have to the murder on the no, man,
Starting point is 00:42:15 way, if one so one so without never it and to be
Starting point is 00:42:19 that all is that all is that it's the energy way that
Starting point is 00:42:24 invading the city way? That energy of fear of way
Starting point is 00:42:29 of fear, of, that other thing you can say, we,
Starting point is 00:42:35 of negativity. Because so we, so is our our city,
Starting point is 00:42:41 so is we. If I have seen the newsier. And believe me,
Starting point is 00:42:47 that I do so it's my sense, we, I know I
Starting point is 00:42:51 know I'm that not, no, no, not, not,
Starting point is 00:42:55 has, not, not, has, the part that preoccupant that is this
Starting point is 00:43:00 way even even as it's because try to evadir it but that's
Starting point is 00:43:05 the reality know the way and I know and I'm like I
Starting point is 00:43:09 don't no no so no to no to say nobody
Starting point is 00:43:12 because because the the plans that you guys the the
Starting point is 00:43:18 the the the no that that that so
Starting point is 00:43:21 so so so has like a a burb
Starting point is 00:43:25 a big and No, pedd, well. If you know you've been to be
Starting point is 00:43:29 the final to do that that's something, yeah, way, netta, is something that's not much.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I never thought that's going to be to be. That's all over, way. That's, because, well,
Starting point is 00:43:45 you know, you're going to you're a, or so, yeah, to do you, to do you, to do you,
Starting point is 00:43:51 and do you that's, and we're that's that's, the pedo not is with people
Starting point is 00:43:58 but acuertate that also exist in the lachras the people that just just are the form
Starting point is 00:44:06 for chingartes yeah they're in a smadritrit and then they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:44:10 they're they're doing they're doing they're and they and all all it's
Starting point is 00:44:15 to be to be to be they're they're they they're they
Starting point is 00:44:20 and what and I'm I'm sure that that that's Explot it,
Starting point is 00:44:25 in our city. Because in our city all was all of all right
Starting point is 00:44:28 and so it's they've been done the lacros way. Not all
Starting point is 00:44:35 but the control that yeah but there control but but
Starting point is 00:44:38 and no more pass this and gita your mother explode all
Starting point is 00:44:43 yeah yeah just they're just they're and to
Starting point is 00:44:49 and to do all the cabron what what what
Starting point is 00:44:52 what we in questions of that that this termine,
Starting point is 00:45:01 of that this parre. How, no, I don't do you know. So,
Starting point is 00:45:06 of that a war between cartels end up you, you,
Starting point is 00:45:11 you, you, you, you, did you, what would be the strategy
Starting point is 00:45:16 that you would to be to this role so, so
Starting point is 00:45:20 well, because when it when it is, because when to be victorious. And that
Starting point is 00:45:28 that's the that's the has to be the control in in all what is the other form more than one
Starting point is 00:45:36 that one more than one or that there a regular, that there an arreggle between each and that
Starting point is 00:45:48 every can be with the so you and that control in the city? Oh yeah and it
Starting point is 00:45:54 says, way, that in different parts of Mexico has passed the war,
Starting point is 00:46:00 so, way, and so between cartels. And that's a dismadre, wui. For example, I, I,
Starting point is 00:46:06 I, I, you, that never I've seen seen, and that just got to be
Starting point is 00:46:10 a time in the city, well, and all the people, and, well,
Starting point is 00:46:17 and the net, grace of God, I had a promise way, family,
Starting point is 00:46:21 and we were, we, of my wife, and my, of my and my
Starting point is 00:46:28 stuff, and all did it, way, I said, my loquera, no, a one of the berno, me kept here in what that's the time.
Starting point is 00:46:36 You're going to three months, way, no, man, and the family of my wife, no, I'm going to do you
Starting point is 00:46:41 go to get us we're going. And I, and I'm in a certain form, I go, well,
Starting point is 00:46:45 I'm going to be incered well, we're in that time, that's a man, loco. In desperante
Starting point is 00:46:51 no, yeah, because I'm to say, I'm in the talon, way, to be
Starting point is 00:46:55 to be to be to be to be machin, we. So, that cullero
Starting point is 00:47:00 that's that's there's to be an arregl, no? Because you know,
Starting point is 00:47:06 because you know, I'm, yeah, yeah, it's a a war that's a way.
Starting point is 00:47:11 How you you're you're in an arreclos and there was, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:17 yeah, no, yeah, yeah, so, so, until one gets
Starting point is 00:47:19 victorious. Awah my, my, pa. One a question that
Starting point is 00:47:26 have you ever, is for gasparin? For gasparin? That's good.
Starting point is 00:47:38 No. If you do the profile this verga? No, that's no.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Pura verga. Why, why? Why, why not the profile? No,
Starting point is 00:47:55 so vending it with the audio so no. No. No.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It's not it. No, and apart the cullon that's too. Fiatte, as you, Gaparine,
Starting point is 00:48:11 the net, not is for all, we. The people that, if they want to enter to
Starting point is 00:48:18 this, this rollo, well, there's a shing of that's, way, that's
Starting point is 00:48:23 there's always, there's, always, there, there, always, there,
Starting point is 00:48:26 a, there, a, place, always, always. So, the,
Starting point is 00:48:35 the, the, the, the, he's, that's that, for example,
Starting point is 00:48:43 we, I, I, I've done that, that the, those that they're,
Starting point is 00:48:49 that's, to do you, more to those that they're, uh, uh, the debt,
Starting point is 00:48:54 they, they, they, in, in who, in the, in the Santa Morte?
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's way That's That's The majority Wue The majority They have
Starting point is 00:49:07 In this Crencia Why? Well, Because Because Because Because
Starting point is 00:49:12 Because You know You You start Like you Like the Like In her
Starting point is 00:49:20 In Yeah So We We We're We We
Starting point is 00:49:34 with her first? No, well, yeah is, decision of one, but... For example, when you
Starting point is 00:49:40 you're metes to this rollo, you're just you're in the Santa? Yeah. Because?
Starting point is 00:49:45 Because, you're all creient? Because, because I was the first I'm the first.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Oh, why you did you? For motives personal, well, the bato
Starting point is 00:50:00 so, and it were various, but, but, a one was the that I
Starting point is 00:50:07 manned, put. What did you know, here? Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:50:14 you know, you're you're of the insecurity and of the desmard that there
Starting point is 00:50:19 in the people that need that they are, that are innocent and that
Starting point is 00:50:25 are people and that people, and so they're the shingada for the insecurity
Starting point is 00:50:30 that there in the country, but it's decision proper of,
Starting point is 00:50:36 oh, well. Yeah, well, I'm a morrow, I was I'm a morrow,
Starting point is 00:50:40 and I I said, no, well, yeah, yeah, he had passed to a tio, that he was for assaulting, and then to other comerada, well. Yeah, so, that you're, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Simon. And, and, and after that first, boy, how was your life? Cambio, no, he did, pendent, no, sent you didn't, no, sent me nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:09 No, no, sent me nothing. Well, I said, I said, I, said, a satisfaction, because he's because he had contributed to the city,
Starting point is 00:51:22 to the population. In that time, not you know, you know? With what was with a pistol? No.
Starting point is 00:51:33 The torture. How? Yes, torturandolo, so it was. A verga, l'clock. Navageado
Starting point is 00:51:49 and of all he was, the vat. Awah fresh, my papa. In the, in the ma'amia way, of what other
Starting point is 00:51:59 of what other thing you get a to do you apart to do you vendidor also
Starting point is 00:52:06 the mitcher and mitcher and what how? No, no it's out. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:13 I don't think I didn't say that no no, no, there's there,
Starting point is 00:52:16 but it's like, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:52:22 the, the, the, the time, the the temptation, ba,
Starting point is 00:52:26 yeah. you peckabas that form of that yeah yeah there you're
Starting point is 00:52:32 you're you're yeah never never never they're they're
Starting point is 00:52:36 they're they're they're they're so so yeah so
Starting point is 00:52:40 me they they they I was I paid what I
Starting point is 00:52:45 was what you did no this no this no
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Starting point is 00:52:54 that yeah and approximately what you of the
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Starting point is 00:53:20 how's the commandant commandant 15 balls a a year are
Starting point is 00:53:27 60 are 60 how I'm you're I'm in the endras or no I'm a man
Starting point is 00:53:34 60 Boles all me Padrino Wichie Miko M'emas no
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Starting point is 00:53:50 Mendejo I'm madden and he died and he's he's Mold
Starting point is 00:53:54 Commandant Hermes he he Peked a ballas only
Starting point is 00:53:59 on the Pye a man Mado Mug A water fresh.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Well, Taka Nipho, my Gasparin. Taka Niko, pa. We're we're. And that you're going for the world
Starting point is 00:54:14 yeah of the good. And that that that I'm going to you,
Starting point is 00:54:20 way. And that you know, you know, you know, so you know, so. So,
Starting point is 00:54:26 you're just prepared for that that, boy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:32 yeah I just knew what I'm going to have And how you
Starting point is 00:54:37 know you know you know that you're you're in you're so now
Starting point is 00:54:44 so now that's what God I'm my God thank for us to be
Starting point is 00:54:53 no thanks to you for the opportunity Blevada well this
Starting point is 00:54:58 was a podcast a supermating for all those people
Starting point is 00:55:04 that people who have the morbo or the well the
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Starting point is 00:55:16 if any any question that they do to
Starting point is 00:55:21 any any person of that the of the
Starting point is 00:55:27 question what would be the question that they're
Starting point is 00:55:31 making that someone more is that they can
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Starting point is 00:55:43 God thank you thank for to be to be a man so am
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