LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - Dr. Gregorio Cruz — Psiquiatra habla de la Depresión, Adicciønes, Padres Separados y más

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

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we're with an invite very special because we know, now we're going to

do not to do a call to do a because the water fresh, my app

with my compa Gregorio the psychiatrist. Yes, many thanks for

invite me. Good day, good day. Good day for all. How the day

of today? Very very. Very good. Thank you God. You're is a

in something? Yes. I think in God about the things. Amen.

That's the part. Yes. There's many things that we can talk, but

as I said, before the I'd like the more that would more,

that would be the part like if I'm just like I'm trying.

You know, you know, maybe you paces of what you occupants help.

So, well, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, he's is the the psychiatrist. You, what question you ask

at the initial to the patient? Well, first I present. First,

I'm present. I'm present. I'm the doctor, I'm going to attend. And I go to

do a this, this, this, not is a story complete, but if

that is, that that's, that's passing with the patient, what is

what's what's that person? we're going to We're going to For us, it's quite how to

where is originario, where he has, the state civil, if is married,

if is married, if I'm in a hospital rehabilitation for generally

are generally are separated or divorced so. So, the

ambit of the interview has to have to the situation of

the patient. For that is the importance of to know the other, of know what? So, so I'm here, you know,

I'm asking, I'm going to answer, you know what, you know, I'm going to not I'm cast, but I'm going to see that I'm a

Union Libre? Union Libre. I'm a little, I'm like two months, I'm going to three, I'm 28 years of I'm originally here

of Kuliacan, Sinaloa. What number are you of your brothers? I'm the last. The last, the machico. How are?

We're three. Three. Very well. Until what year went to the school? There, there's going to

start the good. Because I studied after second year of university to read the

license of communication. I don't I'm because not was concentrated. not was concentrated because my

father was when when they separated and I'm a person that I'm just to be a poor chingas in what I'm focused.

And that time I went to a eight, a seven, and then I always, nines, 10s,

nine, and it's almost pure 10s. So when happens that's my family,

then I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to go to the school and paying, because I

was going to I was paying I went to live only and I'm not I'm I'm not

I'm so I'm something in these stories is the deficit of attention

you not you know I'm I'm I'm I'm not

you not you report not you know for for inquieto or

some sometimes or some sometimes or some sometimes

some If you know, if there are antecedents of the deficit of attention in the child, count in their age adult, because they're much to

enfocars, that you say, they're doing much of work. Right, there there's a deficit of attention

tardio, where it's also, it's a other, so, it said, that the deficit

of attention could disappear in the adolescence, now, now, now persist the deficit

of attention and it can be in the age adult. For so

many times, so influenced much the separation of your parents

to be your rhythm, no, your rhythm of activities. What

symptoms have you? Today? Yes, yes, that's that's,

that's, but if you have been symptoms of depression, for

example? I've had been in some two or three

occasions when much. But I I get to auto-analys me and

understand and say awas because this you were doing that's much a

time to you're to be to be with anem so then

then then as I I'm I do I'm I'm

that I'm that I'm to enfocar me more in the things positive I'm and I'm

so I'm got to God I'm not I'm seen so two occasions

were very for to get to my mother two occasions

that I let me I'm and in the bathroom I but

one one was one was one was really

so so of almost to get to and the

second occasion was I've costed. Fishe, what curious

was that was when I went and a song. But,

but that that can my time, I'm back when my mom

was with me. My mom is alive, thank to God.

But from the 18 years no live with me. And I

was my papa, so I'm didn't the year past, I

think. And that was what what I felt was. If something

something that I would be very common, that the people think

that is in the control of one. No. When yeah a

depression, not in the control of the person. Yeah are a

mechanism of defense and can identify to where

the cause. In your case you could identify what you

generate. But when they're to get to the consult, they're saying and they're and they're

not so why. I know because, but I feel so. I'm really

apachurra no, I don't have no, I don't do not I'm going to

the morning I'm used and I'm gotroteed doctor. No sent I that

I'm that's a phrase too very common of depressive.

No in you think I think I think it to roll your mechanism of defense

that you have done to adapt and to work that I'm that that

you've that you did it because it's a period and when there

there's there's there's there there there that is all the

phases not the negation after to get to the

acceptation So there was a Peridia of project There was a And that So it was It was a impact So, but

What did you? Well, it did you did It was Compensal, to be Compensal, to be a

situation Yeah, the life at times can serve for that for more independent

to be more, I think. As you say more more more

more the really, the one to the one to think it's a

short to what I think sincerely it was something was a very

and if I luched much I luched what I did, me

helped me really to to maintain my mind occupied to to

to try me metas and and that all the metas and all the proposals have that

that's that's that's you're going to make feel a and do you and do that

for that person that's you're going to be you're going to get to get to get

to you even even something something of the something that you're

you have because you have you But I do you But I was And I'm I'm

I'm I'm gonna A minute And my mom I'm I'm a little I think about I'm

Never we're We're just But a But a communication not is sufficient The net You occupants

The Cotot The I'm The Capachio I'm What do you I'm

What How did you I'm I'm 19 Yeah Yeah Yeah Machin

CREame Me That's It's the It's the of the definition, of what you

going to do you do that. For that it's important that. Something something is

interesting, important, that is little to no, no, there are baritas

magicas, no there, no, this is a little to go to go,

to your person, and recuperating the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, that has explored your interior you

permit you are more functional. You explored, you're you're you're

and you get into, you're and there people that are not, that are

not, they're not, they're so. So I think that the

depression has many many vertient the depression is

a problem in our population. So, they're diarrhea, but the depression

are the infirmities actual, the anxiety and the depression. To that see, that there's

I'm much depression. I think the rhythm of life, no, the world has

changed, I think no, I'm going to destroy the family, but there many changes,

very accelerated I think our form to live so rapid and, and, and,

also, that the woman has to participate in the situation active,

in the economy, the woman has no, the woman hasn't a role traditional, no,

of that the mom was in house, to attend to the children, now

not. The two, the partner participes and the two are

all the children. It has changed the form of life.

So I think that the living very accelerated we

have to pass for quarros depressive. The the

the specialist in that but also I think it has to see the

the reds social the very the image the

and the care to be like that's that that that

is a car because my my friend my

my know the influencer or the famous he

has that he so he so he and in

a year he no no I can it

it's very difficult that the other. Yes. The Reds

is a fact. I don't form in that time. I was formed in the anterior.

I was I was my machine. That was my my tool.

But my kids did have formed with a machine and

they're the times have changed. So I think we

need to adapt to the time. I think we need to adaptate. All those days have to learn something new. All those days,

we're going, go ahead. V-hmm. Quinta much the attitude. The attitude that you took to confronter the crisis I think was good for

that it superar. The attitude is a very good part of the resolution of the problems. It is what I think. that was what really, clear,

God me helped much because I remember that in those times I was not so pegged to God.

I came to say that was the time. It was not for much time but it

was because me was a a friend he took to be to be to die

to his little two or three years I think that he and he he's

he's he's ateo for that because where he was God when

his his his him he's not I'm I'm

a detail because is something he he he he

he he he he he he he and

he and we partied much we we we

bagged much and I went like I was

not create, we'll be to be to be even to be, even if the he's

not going to see what what I'm going to and that's me and it was like to be the

and I'm going to and I'm going to I'm going to and I'm going to I'm going to because my money had,

I'd say it's any one Pets. What I did I'm doing what I did a class of ballet

I'm in academies and I and I'm working with my brother. That's that's

a tremble no? Yeah I was in those time I had delgazard a

I'm a little a zombie but was in the but I'm in the the

fight in the depression because if it was depression and And I was occupied

of 7 at the morning 8 to 8 the night the

depression when I had when I had to the department and how me

occupied lavando making doing eating and I'm I

was I'm I'm I'm I'm and and I was

that I was also I could get to get me dormied

because I had to be going to keep the thing, no man. And at base of the

time, I'm thinking, I'm going, if I see I go to go to

go to suicide or something, or I'm going to do you, I'm going to do you have passed

in many cases. And I said, I'm I'm have to come,

I'm gotre, as I said, and there I was I'm and I'm

and I'm he never he's all the time of making the because the thing where we're

that's the car was the encargated of the work and he not he was a and so

it was flueying the thing it was the moment that I'm that I I'm

I'm going to be a part that's very important here was in depression as

I'm I'm going to and I'm a man a man a man I'm

amomor and I make a feel like if I have put a pinch R-15

in the fundio compa and that that's me helped Machein

too the feeling of love the the the sent

you accompanied accompanied I but I'm well I'm

he was right he reason. And he gave a sense.

And from that I began to flowed more. Yes. I think I think with the

question that I did you do you I'm a little I'm that's

that I can't have the place in the earth every every

that I know I'm that I do a service that I

see how go they're that people and this

this that of that way I put the place in the when I say, oh, doctor, that's great, and that's,

no, I'm I'm a soldier, I'm a soldier, I'm a soldier, that's a soldier, that's a soldier, that's a that's a

base. So, my mother, after having us formed, the last years, he's got

catacism. It's a function very beautiful. And it did with so love

that he did until the last the last day of the

life. I think that the good we're not we know.

So, so the depression is a pain a common

in our population and that every be to be

to be trying and you say you have done

programs defined that that that you can get

to get the depression. I when I'm attending a patient,

I'm I'm the importance to have a important to have a program of activities because if

you're going to get to get a and you want to be to get a time, to be a

car, doing things, activities, that also that's really rehabilite the person, also

cures, that also, also. No we'll resolve the medication. There are

patients that see I'm that they're good mechanisms for that pass in the process, no I'm

I'm going to the patient. How do you feel? You're a doctor? Ah, well,

so, I don't do you give a medicament. So, so if our intervention

and evaluation should be a pegat to the person. For that importance of individual

this, to attender to the person in manner individual. Although we have the

same, our form of getting there is different. Although we

don't know when you receive the patient and see that if it

depends of a pastigita how you do know that that

he occupa medicament? When is is derotado when there's

many a quix somatic in your body, there's much molestia,

when he's functional, they're they're to take their

activities, their work, discurial to the family, discur to the

family that me have said, is that me irrit to

my people, I'm, I'm his children, but for that's

for that the importance of attenders, and if the doctor does indicate

a medication to get it, and something is a very important, that's not more

they're not much they're not much. Yeah after we're we're doing

to do you don't think that the medication so they do

do the no, no, no it's they they're they're they're

It's It's I'm I'm I'm a treatment I'm going evaluating

to through the center of rehabilitation and if see a prudent let me

give us to give us but I'm the importance to him

that he's that I'm that he acuda group yeah that

that that's going to going to be the

importance of being the important out of the problem of drug. There's,

there's much to do, there's much to work, but it's very beautiful in this profession.

Yes, really, what you do you do, as you're a soldier? Yes. And I

think that no, there's a better, in the form of to pay to,

to be to the patient rehabilitated, It's the best manner. Obviously,

why he he's got to pay to eat, to eat, there's there's but the

satisfaction spiritual that you have to be to get to get a person in your life

that's because can't happen many things I imagine that has made

that have done to come to live to comeiving to come to

that the patient that the It, the moment to be in the loo more profound

and it's he's, he's feel a little. I'm saying, no, I'm, I'm a

little, we've seen a podcast with a man, and she is in medication, I think.

And he says, that, that I agree to say, he's, I'm sure, I'm

feel a, I'm feeling, no, so, it's a something that's, so,

I've had been patients that me Doctor, why not I had said that there

this? Yeah, I'm bright, the eye. When me will be up

to have to be the eye? That's a good form, it's a signal

to say, let me you're you're you because after the eye

is opac when there depression. So, when he bring the

eye to the patient and you say, doctor, because no

I had said that was that it is

recuperer all your emotion. Because when they're tumbled, no

I don't want to do not, I'm not any to be in a pressure, no,

I don't have to not, doctor, nor do me, or not, I'm,

there is when you have to give treatment. And I know, I'm

so, perfectly because I didn't, I'm never, I'd They wanted to be in my

I'd have to do. Two days, three, and me to work and the only that was to mojew the car, the brasos, and the cabo, because I had to give class in the,

in the academy. And they were puras, then there were adolescents and of all, and I didn't feel the necessities of

to bea-many, and much less of razzur me. I remember that had two, three times, bigotone, and a me always always

to be able to be in a piece-it-and-a-day-siebree. I'm so, like, floating only. Because there's much work, there's much

canstance, I'm a lot. And in those months, there's much can't seem to, and you get to the moment that you're too, you know, I'm interested? And you, and you, and you, you're, and you, you're, you, you're, you, you're, the year that's, the year that's you

get to and I'm I'm doing. Today, I'm doing today with all with all

the day I'm rasuro and I go to the car me rasur and

go in the peals to the machine and that's that that

that's that I have that I have I've I had to

live only that that that that that and

I'm that I don't remember in mode that I'm a Risa of the kid you

I'm a bendejo when you're in the old and now fiat and motivated and that

is what that helps to have to have metas if I I'm a you

a question and I say what? You know I'm I'm there

that's there so there part of the treatment

medical I do recommendations of doing exercise, for example. The exercise recuperate the person.

Of course, the first day not will have to have the anem to do. But the exercise

help, help us to recover. That's what you said at the initial, to do a

program of activities, where at all hour, I'm going to do this, to tell

hour to this, and at time, and at the time, I'm going, I'm going to

put to put them palomitas to the things that they're in, of the programed. That's

a good to the rehabilitation of a patient. If you have to have a

program of activities. The first symptom of a depression,

what is? The first symptom is changes of the humor. Very

drastic. Hey, the person they're to start to feel like a

upchurred of more. changes of the state of the world. But that could

be in a moment posterior to a event or no not.

Not necessarily it had been been been been a

event a sometimes are things of you try

you know but but another signal also also

is the not to when you is battling for to be

in a because there a manned, a a depression, a an anxiety, a one of the one of the one of the

one of the choskitsch, that's the lotterations of the Dormis are very common actually. And that

those are irritable, yes. Why? Because they're not a cycle normal

of the brain. For that's important to be the first signals of the

the mental are the not dormit. And you do you recommend to

the patient to do you, to what hour to that are the

best to be to we're to be to we're we

our Cerebr. And normally, the the caities hormonal or the

caities of all the substances is to 10 to and a 10. You do you said

before, I'm that I'm I'm in the not that was the hour in

that that you had a that that was that so

the time are recommended are six eight hours,

no, of 10 to what's six of the seven. Six, seven.

So, if is important to do you, because you're more more more than the day.

When you doorms, you're like as well you're like, kind of, like,

different, and not you're not you're, that's other problem of the alterations

of the suno. Battal to concentrate. In change, if you doormes,

you're to be more atent to what they're in the day. When the

when the patient not can do not there's a lot or it's always

they say no it's because the reason, because they're in the cellar

or because they're with a problem yeah yes a a

a ancioso or deprimid can a a pendient

for example, that you during the day you can alter the way, or be with the agony

of that you have gone to have been the same, also, or be able to be the pendent

that they're to go to work, I'm not I'm not I'm not going, and I'm

that's, or that you've been a problem with your partner or with your never,

alter the to sleep. So, the pendent can generate alterations in the

swing. If alter are the cycles normal. The the fact that

you're alcohol and that depend of a service for a way

with that or the gallito of the mott that says no, I do

do you to do and I use the plumita. if me have

said the patients I think I think I think I think for a

hour of benefit 23 are of suffering with the consumption of alcohol

oh, doctor when I took the beer after the depression

it gets and even they don't more no

is there there rebote there rebote. Only they're evading.

Nothing more, they're evading the problem. But it has consequences. Yes, it has consequences.

The alcoholic has altered the cycle of the sleep of the sleep, always. It's like,

like if had the monito, the motor of the rancke pegated, so, no, doorme,

no, do we're, no, do we're, no, doorme, no, doorme,

there. I, I imagine that has been patients Alcolic There are

there. There you do you do you to do you know to do to get to

dovesite to do to do well first we help we help to recover

all those conditions organics because there there also

we're we're we're we're and putel vitamins and

have to give a set of some of

manage to desintoxic it's also there's many things with

the alcoholic do you do things of all the laboratories not VH and chemica and

a fact because the alcoholic is the alcoholico has to

do you have to do you get to see your situation actual I

go let's go to what is your situation actual

and at the all of I'm I'm doing the other

I put a Suero-comitaminated, the EDO, I'm going to give a medication

for the tendlourina, the anxiety in that you motor, the, the, the changes that

they have in the state of an alcohol, there's always, there's

like a companion of the alcoholic. And apparently are very very so,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, when you are independent of the alcohol I imagine I'm sure I'm that the moment that

they're when they're in the effect in the effect total not of one to one to

10 and when they're when they're when they're to generate like the the

they're like the but now just they're they're they're in all the consequences

all the cruda and all the the secuel is that the alcohol because the alcohol

desidata also the cellular yeah yeah the the consumer of alcohol

for the inside you're so there's desidat the cellul so there's

there's there's in the alcohol and he had a question very

interesting yeah let see me go I'm but right I'm

yeah ah si why what specifications has the patient that's that has

made more difficult to you that recuperer that's the state of

that I think the the soledad the soledad the soled

the soledad is very incapacitant and you can have without without

some we're we're notural we're we're If we're accompanied of

someone or of something, or of what it is going to get to get a but if

the soledity you're a help because you're to the

thing. It's the most frequent. And I want to tell one

I'm I'm to get to love to the soled to

I. No I don't if because I had of other

or because really my past mental dependia to

only to be so that's so I think in your case

as you talk you think the solidid you also also

it also for that you got those new energies you

do what what happens with the adolescent that

in the room not not more to masturbation if it's in-sierre also

to make a re-plantiaming of my life what I'm to do you think you apart you apart you

at the way to be and then and you and you and you and you're to start

but it was to re-plantial what I what I want to me for me for my life

there there is when it's when it comes the madurice of the person

that is so or so so macasio is to that's to want to that

that's that's that not not any person is not any

believe that I think I the majority of people that I've been

not not have to be always I don't I don't

I can be so I don't prefer they're doing to

other people like as a question of questions of people

then, I'morras. If it's amiss, amiss, I'm sorry, I'm doing, I'm going to

be able to be able to be, if I'm, no, I'm going to be suicide me,

I'm going to get in the drugs, no see, because, creami that I'm at point

to, to, to, to, and with, and with the person, fission

that was, that was, that was, agarand like the the gusto to the marijuana,

is without any one a piece being that was a millionary that

that. I was I chambed I worked with him doing doing

doing and and if no a better to

survive but the but the life he was in the

money and he he's he just he is one

one of the great and the and he I'd say, if I'd have

been been been a cabed there. But a me, my parents

never me did that example. And I always put in a balance

to say, I'm like, how you're going to do that this

pince and your mom you're that you're especially she

was an alcoholic but my mom no. A be, don't

put you truched because if no you're you're to family, if

you do you do you do you do you do it but the consequences

are so bad the consequences are so they're much the norms and the

rules to have your values to you get that you get that

the family and they surgen this not this is

not for me so so to I have attended

many people independently of the activity but But I respect to the other.

That's very important. The respect to the other, well. And a sometimes me questions, no, I mean, doctor,

how do you do you do that sessions with the patients? The, to go to get to

get a mind in blank and with that. With that, with that I desintoxico

of all. I'm trying the al-anuels and the mind in blank and I'm there

and I'm talking with the pescadito you know you know but

but you do you do it a me me me me

I'm I'm I'm I'm to I'm to what we

we're doing and it the when it the the

guine the guion and I'm and then I was

I was awed a lot with an intern in recuperation there in Durango and I

felt quite quite very after that because so to hear to hear

hear and get the indicado that you identify you know because

you know it's a interchamble because it's an person and another and you

did you do it is a human like you that's interactu with you

sacude and you move things. You know you know to know to be to be

to be a Basque where I did my speciality me did that said,

like saying oh, let's what you do you do? How was that

experience? It was very difficult, very traumatic, very difficult because

it is like if you desnudo, so, this is you. Gatoo, rohan. To know all your

fortaleas and debilities, no, too, too. But that's you can't prepare you to do that. What they're

what? No, they're they're getting, you are getting to get, you're

to turn. A pure labyrin. A pure power. A pure power. No, it's too

well, but I think that's served. To not to lose the cordu during

all these years that you have to do the years of your career

there, there a a a case very special

that you say this case no has been another

case is a , can't a one I go to domicilio

I'm my they're in the families and I'm a one of them they

were a patient neurologic and the patient was the man a

mannana of the form the postura that I said car this

well it's not it was like like she yeah

yeah but apart the posture postura corporal was a

a problem was, so, for me it was a problem

and I did a medication just like to say, like to say, I

went, I went and I went to the family, and I know, you know,

I'm going to manage a tractor the man, that moment

me surprised you did, what, what is this? Manegando a tractor. and just

without molestia. And I wanted to take tomography and he wanted to do a lot of studio.

Nothing. Like if no, there's been that life you're that's that's

that he's a man, I know what barita or what situation

he made to him and he never got never I took the medication

and he went to work to the place to the tractor but I

thought that was a problem neurologic very severe that was my idea because

when I got to I was totally torsis and they had to they'd

to come with a popote so how time did it? That

was what was what was about about about about to go to the

side of the day of the day on the but that person yeah

had a day's I'm yeah they've have seen other other

medical that impressive that impressive that impressive that that

that's that's and he never he's the family yeah no

I'm again I'm then I'm well you yeah no you

so so and so And so. Orgoyos. And so you you're every

thing to see how how they can't get a lot of and some no,

no. There's a senior major of 84 years, that's

he had died of his wife. That's very common also in our

population. And he said, Doctor, there we know. or the hospital was the interned

of the security, nor the hospital or not nobody me going to get a idea.

He quit the suero, he was to go to and he was to to accompany to his

a pair to you think, I think they're like some years of

and and a sometimes a bit a that a because

that that's that you can evils evils I mean,

I felt with the impotency to not to not to be able to be in but he

had a very decided the idea. Doctor, nor the hospital, and nothing me will

to get to see. We're we're with with permission.

He got to get to get to and he was depression because

he was he had his partner he was, no, no, I'm

had other other other other other other other Oh, well, if there are

youngs that do And so I'm going to I'm I'm really I'm surprised with a family that

well, yes, I'm, and, and now my Tia is trying of the

depression, the anxiety and the depression are, are, are parents, are

families, are When the anxiety not's not the when the depression. They're

they're in a time. The anxiety? The anxiety is to feel that's to die to die.

The anxiety is despair, inquietude motorer, this, no see, I'm going to go to

happen, but I know where and why. Sienten like if an agony, then you

a desperer, an inquietude, and and and of they're they're to somatized

in the body. It can be gastrointestinal it can be to be a pressure

and it can be anxiety, it can be a diarrhea there there

there children of adolescents that they're a diarrhea every that will

have to have an anxiety so there there there

manifestations of the anxiety. When the person not so it's not super a what has been a depression,

it's like what it is like the anxiety, what is the depression. And when you do

anxiety, how is it how it can? Ancioritical but generally we associate

with antidepressive because we know that the complication more is the depression of the anxiety.

It's what is going to go in the way. We're doing an antidepressive that we help you

do you know, that's that you can that's that you complicate in depression. Sientes

that's you're so you're so I'm in the pretable the peachate that's

accelerated, has accelerated the carousal the me entom the arm

a sometimes convulsion but of the nerveio that is what

he was I've taken to see I've got to see a lot of

not it's not because they're not the not the same it's the same

great the conflict that I'm I'm going to go to other

and they're they're they're they're convulsion but in our

language is a trastor conversive convictio the anxiety

in that so for that's a term a transor

conversive a psychiatrist, what is can't try? Well, all?

Ah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm heard, but that

you know, but that's you know, that's a person, you know, one, I'm a

person, then we're a series of, I'm, I'm a very, I don't do it

so much so I'm a person, but if I know a person, and so I can't attenders,

I'll attend. There's a point out of a lot important, plebada. I know that the

speciality was a psychiatrist. So, you know, to study medicine, pap,

blah, and what are speciality meho? Oh, yeah, ah, psychiatra.

You can start studying psychiatra without studying medicine, and I know, I know

that. Like the psychologist, the psychologist the psychologist comes of, of the

yeno. of the license at the licensiatura of psychology and it can be a speciality

but in our case is first be a medical and do do so services social interned

and then and then and that get to the speciality so are various years?

How many years how many years? The medicine apart not of the prepa and the

other that are other Other 10. But medicine, interned, service social, speciality.

So, 10 years in that. But I imagine that you have to have liked much.

Yes, you do you like, you know, you like what you do you

do that. Although there was a moment of that that I was that

the crisis in the hospital when I that I said, I said to his sub-director, doctor, he's not going to be

forgetting the medicine and no preends my mother of psychiatry. He solto the rice the doctor. Oh, my jit, that go

getting, he's going, and you're going getting. But I got very, very, very, very,

very, very, my thought, I'm not, to do the medicine and no,

I'm trying to do nothing to seeiatry. It's, we're we're talking that

that's, that too, that can't, with the area of the penals? Yeah.

Travaha how has been your experience to work in the penals? This,

I'm the need the need the need the invite my compad to desintoxic

patients for heroina in that in that in that then this

and then and we, we've attended various modules desintoxic

patient. And that's of there me invited to get to and I kept. And I

saw the necessity because I remember of a patient he said

in the soldier that's that's being to be and he was

he had in chas the feet but of not

protein but not not I'm the and he's

mur and that me to me to say or

to attend patients because he's muriel the patient that's

for how time it's it so it so

so just just just just not being for the that

has schizophrenia there there there there there there

I'm I'm the power for you do the power to you get to

get yourself and I'm talk in the they're in the I'm let

see the So, he does the energy to cure. Those are patients

specials, but if that's a soldadito so, so I kept with that impression,

and that was what me put to right. There's a module of

mental special for that I'm patient interned with all the

diagnostics exophrene bipolar retrasos, addicts, deprecats, Depression. The schizophrenia,

that's how it's the way to to tenders? It's a way to tenders. It's like the diabetes.

It's an a form of genetic that I can stabilize but to let me the

ender the not. It would be to get to get a disease. It's a

problem. It's a life. You do you to that the

Trasurons of the thinking more stable, that can be

more functional because the area that's a area social

they're not not not they're not socialize like the

other not not they're not they're very serious

are very are very leptosomatic is them what is

leptosomatic is the description anatomatic of a patient that has that's

a problem. Not all. In questions of the way, you know,

you know a question that's a patient? No, not so rapid. Not so

so much that the evaluations as we're going to and the evolution

of the patient is how integrer a diagnostic. And the curious

of the psychiatry because no there is because the fall

is at a me say, ah, this has schizophrenia,

this is bipolar, this is so, it's clinical the diagnosis. I'm doing a story clinical,

I do according to the criteria of the health and I'm a diagnosis and I'm

a treatment. But that you're saying, Doctor, with a tomography, you're to see is

exquiso or bipolar? No. The diagnostic is clinical. the people that the psychiatrist more has

more has to try with care those who are those who are the people who are, the the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the newvian of the psychiatria, the is schizophren.

And is the most difficult. Because I can stabilize the patient, I can do that work, that function,

that this, but to let me the a other years, no, yeah

there's like two months or three in the gymnasium where was going

to be a woman that's schizophrenic and this she's this

she's radically to change to make to make to make sure to

be a mother there that what what that what

or to that that's that so that's because

What you said you is, how is it, that they're, they're, heredarsom, but what, what will be, what,

that person? That's, I imagine that has tried to many, that's, you,

what, your per, Marie, good after, a girl, how is, how is,

how is, what will, what will what will, what will, I, I think, those

changes that they're, is that they're they're listening voices, that they

do their orders, that they do they do it, or that produces those

changes in that person. They're they're they're ideas delirante of damage, of that

persecution. So, no, you know, you don't think, they're not they

don't they're they're they're they're they're they're their own

food. And in that case of the changes that those are

because they are listening voices. that they say things, that they

are and they're going to be there's there's there with those and then

it's been very angustiant that that's that's because a lot

because a people think that's a agree it's

very angusient for the patient to be being that the

patient so that that so that you have I'm

this and this and this and this Or it's difficult for to recognize that they're not.

It's difficult for them. There's no a conscience of a new conscience of a new no time. I'm doing.

I'm doing, so I'm doing, no, no, no, no, apart of all those symptoms,

have no a conscience of the disease of that. For that, they abandon the

treatments. Because no they have nothing, no, they can't do you medicament to

my mom, or to who can do the medicine better to him. A me no.

It's typical. You see know that that's... That is. That is a data for us.

For us to think that they have... That really is it. That is the problem.

There have been a that they demand them. I've had to go to the

jusgats or to the penal or to the places to defend a family

because the patient the person that's that's that. What rollo, I see,

and if they're majoring and if they're there's there's there's there's because,

for example, I'm I'm a that's a that's a but I live alone and my

family me want to help I don't want to I'm for a for a

go over to the I'm yeah oh, oh, yeah oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, command and there is the process. Yes,

because they're that they're to have to be in a force, to do you have done,

so I'm to get back because you're because you have a disease, because you're

a important to have a document that me permit to sustain that I did you

that I'm that's, because after that the judge to be, doctor, you

this is here is the expedient and he did this treatment and I have to argument

all and to stop them attack they're not they're because it's

because it compromete because so imagine that pincy logo that no

that's that I'm capiando to the pollory to the consultory to

do you see yeah yeah you have to be to

that you the the the the case more

the has taken to attend What has been of experiences because you're

like a like a like a like a there's there's there's I'm talking

a patient there in the hospital psychiatric yeah I'm jubilado

I of the hospital but I took to attend to a a patient that

that that no with medication he had a car delirante

Not with medication. That was very difficult, a much work, many procedures, even even it was to a therapy electro-comulsive,

all, all, all. Yeah, it would be Yeah, it would be the more strong,

all, and we, and we, we're, a lot in back to, a lot of time. Yes,

it was, she, It was very much, much time and that when

the patient me was reclaming I got a garro a garrafone

of and I am I'm vacillating doctor in that that

emotion in that you maintain the patient not not

it's so it was very difficult because it was it was agudo

what is it for us delirante hallucinated inquietos that's for us

for us a patient agued and and it a good time to do it

for easy like like three months to go to

and so I'm a little time I think

I think I'm three years no three months

but with intensive the was being it was to be in him

in him and he was very and it was very and there moments in that he

was confronted to you to get and you know one has one has to care

that because those discargas also not just the patient the

patient the heart Yeah. He has to try to to try to those patients that occupant

them them to do you. Yes. Those have been in special? The

suggestion right is being more is a procedure yeah legal

but but has their characteristics you have to subject it just to

get to you for patients agitated agitled. Patients agitado for

to be to apply the medication and to get the camis of the chemical

that is the medication. Right now, now there no, there are not

not the so, but it's through the the, of the medications, you're

backs the patient, you can you, a patient agitado, if you can be subjected

but for a brief time and no more while it's the effect of the medicine and nothing

so so it's the norm and the rule of the process but it's

still still using it's interesting to all for for protection of him

and protection of the other yeah so that what we we're we're

we're to protect to him and to protectel to the there are many cases

very conted where the proper his own a those, to the

parents there where the father the father and a and that they're

and that they're and that they're they're there can it's

it's it's it can be under effect of

some drug that that has voted voted or

it can be for a problem of this is a problem mental but

not it is common that commit delito the patients but

if yeah to pass count as you say

if yeah to and during the event during

the fact they are psychotic they are they

are they that is the argument medical that

we person is out of the reality when is in the actual. Yes.

Because in the penal there are many that have committed that you

don't they're they're in other world and it and it was the

process of yeah we put to and we're

to and there and they don't they don't

they of drugs and when you like it they'll

forget, back? Regressed to the reality and what? Why? What,

what I'm what? What? What? What? What? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, so, so, so, so, is that I'm

to have to be the privacy of the person. But, so I attended

all. One once attended a patient that consumed a cocaine,

and and I had in his car and he He, he's got with the roo delirante that the day

after he was going to and he was going to. And the other, without, and to be it, and temerla, well, the other, no, he had nothing to to be in the issue. But he was a very delirante and had consumed cocaine. So,

yeah. A car to be. To be it. I mean, it's not in the place. I mean, it's where I mean, when it's not. When you to talk, you know, the dog. Yeah. Villejo,

you know, any a question? Here, here, there's many questions. He's

here, how know what medicament recetar? For example, produce the

those, the word, the neurotransmissory, the dopamine, serotonina, yes. Yes.

We, we're going to to choose the patient to according to what characteristics has that

patient. If it's hormonal, for example, if is a woman of 50 years,

that's in the menopausia, we'll we'll gogement a certain type of medications. If it's

an adolescent that has a problem with the family, we'll we'll

we're a type of medication. If it's a patient that has a fear and insecurity, we'll choose certain medications. For example,

Miedos and insecurity we're paroxetina. Damos exitalopran. In patients the depression major, we're la faccina, we're doing

to looker to go ahead of the type of this patient. We're going to take into the the age, the age also

me will permit to know what type of antidepressive can use

in that's a or quite patient. A woman young

of 20 and many-tant years with two children and

is a heartralina or a person that has

a person has a according to the type

of a type of depression we to choose the antidepressive, the product that we're going. The dopamine,

in reality, exists a percentage of what we're going normal. Yes, yes, yes, right our

our brain, our brain, we're doing all the neurotransmissory and is absorbing to look that equilibrium that you,

Scentete well. That's the equilibrium of the substance. So normally we're

we produce what we do the medication is that regula the the

the medication regula the liberation exaggerated of that so

or what neurotransmissue so says this is that the medical

to at what the level act no, it's

impidient the resorcion of the neurotransmissor. So what we want we need, we need,

or stimulate, we're going to use the product. And as said, we'll be the

age, we'll be many factors that we have to take in mind the type of

depression that has been to know that anti-depressive he will

do. There are there there cases where the person or

So, so, so, so can't, that a person is chisophrenica, how's how's it, it's, exosophrenica, that's, that's, that's, that's, but it's made, but it's so. No, so they're, hereditary. Oh, okay.

No, no, no, they're doing. Yeah, it's, much of our situations have to be with the genetic. Much, much, much, much. and the infirmities also even.

There are patients that the mom somatized to get somatized also

the he will have the possibility to somatized in the same very curious are

so like like like like like if the Gen,

you send to that message to the other will somatized

it's if the mom was deprimed and has a risk

suicide the the child he will be to be being

to have a risk suicide. So for so it important

to know the anteced of the patient and

for it's important the genetics even to for the

response of the medications. There are there are very very well to the

vaccine or I say to the child or I'm going to give the vaccine because

he was very well to do that that that medication the idiosyncrasia of the

pharmacocinetic of the medicaments is very similar in the family and

if he does it I don't think it's a, no, no, no, no, no, because yeah. Yeah, yeah, there are. After the response to the antibiotics,

also has to be with that. You know, you know, that one pite, a study with antibiogramma? Antibiogramma, it means, what antibiotic can attack to the animalito? Ah, well,

it's hered to be that, too. I'm very arisgated in my comments at the more but if yeah

water if there is a reaction if there no yeah yeah

recommend recommend that we're that we're we're much

not they're not they're with people where the

the infirmat you have the doctor the control

yeah not not in me yeah me revas the

infirmity. I mean, I don't control I'm not the recommendation would be that they

detects a time and that can't be able that's but when those

mechanisms of defense not they can they can't the superar

the problem. There people that super problems without attention of

psychiatria without attention of any medical. There people

that there situations, crisis, divorce, separations, pernida of work, change of domicilio. And

no they need attention. So, not everyone. It's the that you need to, let me

for example, here many people you're going to you, you what recommendation you do

the people when you have to to look to go to the when you when you

don't have control of him when you know that's that they're

where they do to do to make more practical in when you get to

you because you're not you're because it's it's

good he's he's he's you're you're you do you

do you're you're you there there one one

one I'm a little bit. I mean, you know, I mean, you know, it's the that's a moment that's a time. So, all attention have to give the,

but with the idea of that you're going to get to the medication. Not, you're going

to be there for life. Can you get to do it to be consuming

always? No, no, no, no, no, no, there are that the use of antidepressives

and the use of neuroleptics, the use of anciolitics a time, 20, years, of studies,

and no, there secuels, no there's complication, no

problem. It's a it's pure, taboo. Very good. There's

this people said, for what I'm feel so, I'm saying? You

can't sometimes be to be around the people but start

so. But it is for the sensation. It's anedonia is a

name. No I'm don't I feel only. It's a symptom of the depression.

Occup a help. Manjard's, ha'later. Occupes to go to... Attention. Attention. Atence.

Anecota rara that that has with a patient. Anedota rara. Well,

I think much is what is that I don't want to balkoenear to anybody, but

I have many anecdotes with my patients because are special because our our area

aback a lot of situations not. The that's that's that's

no, no doesn't not. Well, there's a story very curious.

A good. Gere a patient to the hospital. No, to

talk to talk to other. There You let me change. No, there's be a bit. Hey, look, when I was in Tabasco, in Villermosa,

in the hospital regional, there's, there's a patient that says to say that he translada things important, quadros,

millions of money, or or, he was in cargave of that business. And we saw it as if were a system delirante.

And resulta that no. Resulta that he gets a helicopter for him

and he was he's he was so was so

he was certain he said and we're a rio delirante

and he was he was he he transport

all those of those of the minas and yeah

yeah and was a person I think very

important because for to us was a delirio and it was a real

and it was a realty. Then he went to he said he's dedicated to that he

had a and we're all all of all startled and he was result

that's so it was to tenders there he we took in the

hospital he well he was so he was so

he was Or, Bucing other help? I think he went

looking another help. And he saw he came talking about so,

and they said, no, this is being voted. Tronado. Meta in the

hospital and they're hospital. And during 15 days, he was

he was insisting that he did all that he when

when he a family, the family he said that is a carrie

so why so for that we have been interned so are curiosities that

are rar stories raras yeah that's very rare that that's

what is the the the most he that he

preoccup that good that I'm I think the more the most

the cause for the drugs in the the last three

years has been of more interest in me. Because I see the

the consequences that generate the consuming drugs gets to destroy

to families entire and to disintegrar families the consumption

of drugs and alcohol. So is one of my preoccupations more

vigent is the consumption of drugs and more the drugs that are getting.

Sintetica? The synthetics are just they're to be a person and

the people. If no, it makes that you you're you

do you do in a in a quadro psychotic because what

what delit no no that for that for me

And more in the In the sense of Inaloa Because Well, it's Yeah

It's not more transportable But now Now, now they're pretty

to the other Yeah, it's that's interesting It's fantasy

sexual more more than that has tried of some

patient Yeah of some person that In our area, it's common also if you're not

prepared, the that can't have transference and contra-transferency, there are patients that coquettean, there patients that they're saying, there are patients that they're saying things. One of a patient,

that no, I was about of other thing more than that. So, then, this, I was just, I've recinged a new the speciality I've just to

start at the hospital psychiatric and I don't about to other

more that's that's the I did I did because

I didn't I'm abortat and then I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm with a sonia the patient so I said I

know I'm I'm manner, I evito conflict me

more. But if that patient was a patient was talking about

that that's not. Tendra a problem? Yes. Yes,

yes, we did treatment, no, if we did treatment. And

yeah, psychology yeah was managed the way more

more soabed. When in a a person only

think in having sex in the morning, in the night, in the

time, every that's every we know, I know, I, in the

personal, I feel that a person, I'm not all the days have been

sexuales. Well, have to be the age. Depends the age.

Yeah. When was a adolescent, I was I was had to every

eight hours, not as if were medications. But but yeah, yeah, every each, yeah,

it's true, there's maturity in the sexuality. The stages of the sexuality also

have been in mind, they're in their expression of your adult. So,

so you have to attend those rogues, there have to be the

age, there have many factors, because I've to

tend to attend patients that the the the that's so

so that so then we're derivam with no well

I think there there there there there there

there there or there okay okay comport and and

and and and there I'm um I'm going to be brief.

I'm going to there. There's a very specific that's a problem that a personality sociopathic.

This trauma is a deficit of attention. These patients, in a

time they're they're to get good for to make animals from

from a very tempran age. Also when when they They were festeagered their piñata, what you think he did?

With the palo of the piñata, he pego to the companyers in the head, in other than to peg her the piñata. And that's it produced pleasure or he produced a gusto to the patient. So, since very tempran ed, the sociopath is giving data, of conducts inadequate, of conducts of problems in the conduct, from from a

very time. And, and I have been a time. They're

very difficult because are those truss chronicles, that is

like the movie, no, they're they're living in other planet,

no. So, so, there, there are signs some there.

If there, with that, with that, with that point in your

your head to say, to you to you do

to do a I'm going and the they're doing

certain and they're not they're not they're not

they're not a sociopath no the cause the

the cause is the problem the we have

to have to and we don't don't don't

don't don't in culpe. That's interesting. Because I know people

that you know people. I mean, how can be, how it's possible that you do you?

For example, I mean me me like to go to go to careria, palomas,

but to consume to get. To me to me it's a thing to get to

to get a paloma and that is to be Because we know that the

house Asi-Eva It's from Uff No, I'm I'm No, I'm

like in the Peska I'm I'm like I'm going to get to I'm going

to come if I do pargito or a choic Oh, let me Bula

to do that's that's that's that's that's that's that's

that's chia chia the sartene that I'm a beastia well

well how how you in this podcast? I think I think very,

very, very profound, very profound, this, I, I,

I, that, that, that, that's acud they're so, you know,

so, they're so, so, I'm, that's, that's, that,

that, that, oh, Why don't? Why not? No, I don't have to go and an unciating

or nothing. No, I don't because I'm in a age in the that I have said, I'm going to

talk of the health mental. I can't talk all the day of mental. So that

I'm going to say something of Eder that's a man, and you did it did

with me Oh, yeah? Yes. So, A great Rastos, he He

He he He went with antecedents of deficit

attention has a retraso level of the development he went

and he went to the conduct very impulsive very retod very A very retador

This Even us We're still And I'm Reilly And I was This So,

So, It's Modificing The conduct It was It was Apprendient All this

Impulsivity Control of the Impulso It was And the Medid

that the treatment also he let me Risperd Al Valprato and

and yeah and also I'm really because it was

he was to where where it was to where they've got to the same

diagnostic and the same treatment so so I don't not

not not so not so so so so

so I did I think in two occasions. Two internment, well. And the problem of her was that,

the impulsivity. It was for ingovernable, as well as the plebes, no? It's that as we said a rato

that that's from the values that you're to define. What the past is that they

they're not interjected reglas or norms for the trastorn. So, they'll

say other people is that that's that's all I've never had been able to

he difficult for that very difficult very difficult and the and the and I

me I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm Siento. And obviously he has the disease,

will be to be to be because one he's at the when you

know, when you can't do you know, but if he...

A more well, he's sort of can be a good child.

Yes. In our hypothesis. A. So, has three, four months is

another totally from from his from his mind from the from the

way to all that all that I'm that I'm this way is another is another

and we we're we we're we're we see a one a

something or something I'd want to give to for the most very

very mental, I think that we have to live. That is the point of the point

of the point of life. The attitude of life can make up to me

every day. The attitude of life to be to get to get to

get to so much has to be the attitude and us

also to help to help to to thank you for invite me, for

see this new form of to interviewer, I think. Why not? Why not? I have to adapt to the

things new too. But I'll give the thanks for your attentions and the

having me invited. Thank you. Thank you because we, uh, we,

we've got to quit us many doubts and, of the people, to the people principally, that we're

seeing, I'm sure that they're going to look at, and here to you, in where

they can find a telephone or something for some consult? Yes, yes,

I'm I'm trying in clinic orthusasty and in a manner particular of five

to seven of the And my telephone is 6677 553222. Okay. You can

go to go to go to a guy, or here only in all the I'm

I'm under the tree. That's me my abel. That

good that's that's I'm atient to I'm so

so. So, so is that plebada if see some

some that are you that need you that need help. No, they're going to make the

time because it's more grave. So, I'm in the personal, me feel because I,

me, I consulted. I, I'm, I'm trying to say that I'm sure I'm

very, motivated. All we have problems. All we have costs, deudas,

preoccupations, we're we're doing to someone, perid et cetera, et cetera. But, as you

the attitude of to live that not we're because I feel I that's

that we don't want very motivated is the day of the day of to give to give

to to give to give when you do you're to thank the day

that you do and we that the day of the day of the day of

the day of being vibar alt Dopamina is T, at the tronco.

At the top. No. And so, no. Of a substance. So, so it

is living without a need a substance and always be a good. So,

plebada, well, nothing I've been with you for having us, uh,

this interview, this podcast, this charla. And, well, And then, plebada, see no in the

social social. You know, my compa that I want to do you do you're no, the telephone,

well, you know, if you know, if you know, and then you to get to get back and then

back, and then badi-s for all, portents be good, puttens on some,

puttons, puttas, and you can to be able to do to do even to do what you

can't do that's me, credemmelo me. Saludas, good blessings,

cures much. So, see us in the social, the mafias to the last,

and the Zeta. I'm Fipper, Elizabeth Solis, and her servidor here,

I'm here. We're there's a person, we're going to give us to get to get in the

be a bit of a bit of a specific. In the cachet. In the cachitit.

Yeah. The above or the other? No, of here. Saludas, a Soplay, a Bacet.

In the pure caches of all the team of the Mafia and my comp. Gregory. Animo. Benditions.

Psychiatra. Here we are here. Yeah. Water fresh, my app. How did you? Ah,

very well.