LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - GAFE 423: La Mafia trabaja con el Gobierno Mexicano

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

GAFE 423: La Mafia trabaja con el Gobierno Mexicano ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What happened, my Amor? How's it? Lebaugh, so you're beenvening a new podcast of his
Starting point is 00:00:04 friends, the mafia. Today we're in a set of here that they have been to present.
Starting point is 00:00:09 Surely you have to be to be a thing to do it. The net so I
Starting point is 00:00:13 really, but it also like, like, what you can't say, like some
Starting point is 00:00:19 some of some of some for the intro. But not for my intro,
Starting point is 00:00:24 no, because my my wife me back, you know, you know, chiquitita, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:30 but for the intro of the person that he's got here. If someone knows who does this
Starting point is 00:00:36 set, for favor comment. Because certainly you know they're they're
Starting point is 00:00:41 in calient. So, today we have a duke of this pince project, that's the
Starting point is 00:00:46 Gaffee 423. How are water? Awas fresh, my pa. How we're
Starting point is 00:00:53 how you're all chingazoo, thanks of God Fiat. Thank you. Muchism for the
Starting point is 00:00:58 invitation, we. The other I'm not, I'm a really, the invitation to your space and also
Starting point is 00:01:02 the time, the other is accepted to start in the new, and that's going to be able to the episode. And then we
Starting point is 00:01:07 do you know. and then you how you do you? How you feel? Well, my net, I'm, chido,
Starting point is 00:01:13 the, I'm not chided of much, much experience that you has acquired in, in the reds
Starting point is 00:01:19 social, then, so at the final of you know, it's that you me's doing
Starting point is 00:01:24 to be doing the questions, that too that's the, the, the, type of
Starting point is 00:01:29 platics previous, way, previous to what the people are the people are the thing I'm
Starting point is 00:01:36 so you know, that's the matter, to be to be able, to be, to be, a little
Starting point is 00:01:42 incomodo, way. Because, because, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:01:47 no, no, no, no, so, so, he's, because one
Starting point is 00:01:49 so, so, so, he, so, to be, to do the to his
Starting point is 00:01:54 space, to his people, way. For the place, here I'm
Starting point is 00:01:58 here I'm playing with the people that's not the play with the man, my compa
Starting point is 00:02:03 Larry, I'm a manned a manned a man who's we're doing music
Starting point is 00:02:07 that they probably they're to come to and I'm a no, the,
Starting point is 00:02:15 the, uh, water fresh, my dad. So, so, so,
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm, so I'm so much, no, the car well, so, me the
Starting point is 00:02:23 energy, way. It's what sometimes I think it's because not your space
Starting point is 00:02:27 just to not the not for the fire, but it's because it's your your cell,
Starting point is 00:02:33 you know, it's about where you you're doing it you're and it's that's the bata
Starting point is 00:02:38 yeah, way, they have to support also the carrilla and the and the
Starting point is 00:02:42 he's he doesn't I'm, you know, you know, don't you do you're not because
Starting point is 00:02:48 we're just we're doing to come to your guy, tell you to your people you're
Starting point is 00:02:53 you know, it's like, it's, no, it's like, I don't know so, way. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:00 man, how's, how are, how are you, how do you, how you how you're, how you're,
Starting point is 00:03:04 Mige, Mige, how you, how you know, how it, Mige, Mige, is that
Starting point is 00:03:09 he's, because no, know, so I'm, or listen, and reirse,
Starting point is 00:03:15 and then, that's a, man, a, man, a man, a man, he's mad,
Starting point is 00:03:17 oh, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, And it's respect to what you to talk about to do you
Starting point is 00:03:26 when you're doing when you're that's the order way, in the mandoer that's in the mando that
Starting point is 00:03:34 I was I mean, I said, who'd give you, I mean, I imagine that you're
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm gonna you're gonna what was the order that you said, no, man med, dude,
Starting point is 00:03:46 a verga but no, no, no, is that, is that, in that moment I think
Starting point is 00:03:51 that the question would be very, very subjective in that moment. If you me the question,
Starting point is 00:03:57 with my mentality of, you know, like the the that's the that's
Starting point is 00:04:03 you're doing, that's people, if I'm to be, to be, to be, no,
Starting point is 00:04:09 no, no, more, no, no, more, more, because never, never,
Starting point is 00:04:14 never, never, never, it's, but, but it's very, very,
Starting point is 00:04:18 very, the time of, respect, respect, to the civil, respecten to
Starting point is 00:04:21 the civils. but if the pedd was like to the maia. But in that then I don't he was like as well. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:04:29 things too too tontas like that we're not mams we're puts to get to the cagas
Starting point is 00:04:34 so that he went to clean to get to this mireda still still I'd say that in that moment
Starting point is 00:04:40 they're like orderness more culleras this type of value the redundance
Starting point is 00:04:44 to hear to hear no, well here we're we're we're we're not
Starting point is 00:04:50 we're puttas to disposion So in that moment, maybe that no, that's not so I'm saying, but today with other mentality,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'mams, so, what order is so, I'm sorry? I'm sorry, I'm saying sincere, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:05 did you, did you, do you know, I'm doing that I was doing, not you're saying that I'm doing, but being,
Starting point is 00:05:11 but you get to hear you, but I'm to hear you, well, I think no you, with the simple
Starting point is 00:05:18 he, with, with, to tronar the pistol a car that's like a
Starting point is 00:05:22 badger I'm in that's a matter is a certain compromise psychological even that's
Starting point is 00:05:28 psychological even that your work I'm so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:05:34 for example, for something I don't I'm so I'm so
Starting point is 00:05:37 I'm I'm to get that I'm to get the the
Starting point is 00:05:41 compromise to go for someone but if not do
Starting point is 00:05:46 enjoy that that that matter that you did
Starting point is 00:05:49 do you do no no no that type of things I don't do you
Starting point is 00:05:52 do you know, not a mentality for much this indoctrined that
Starting point is 00:05:57 could be in that never never is the the time to get a
Starting point is 00:06:03 life or you never you never you're going to get you
Starting point is 00:06:07 sometimes because you get a little I'm not not I'm not
Starting point is 00:06:10 not you don't I'm not you're not you're the
Starting point is 00:06:13 the order that you are being to get there's there
Starting point is 00:06:17 there's just of webo's, ah, may, they're going and
Starting point is 00:06:21 they're going to get in people, if they're not, you're they're
Starting point is 00:06:27 to get them to do you, they're to do not they're doing that you, but if you
Starting point is 00:06:31 did you get to hear that you get to get to you get to get a question,
Starting point is 00:06:36 there's a kind of that's that's a very, so even, even,
Starting point is 00:06:41 even though, even he has done even he's done it being a person, that you
Starting point is 00:06:46 could be you could have had this matated, I refer that in a entrantamintment
Starting point is 00:06:50 many times not you know if you were the causeante of the death of
Starting point is 00:06:53 that person but to be what other man he could do you to do
Starting point is 00:07:00 how we how we how we we can we can we we can't be
Starting point is 00:07:05 so much you you're indoctrinated that never never never
Starting point is 00:07:08 to get to a a a a person to
Starting point is 00:07:11 I can I can I don't even a animal I do
Starting point is 00:07:15 much a man my, my office of the little, of a young,
Starting point is 00:07:20 was be a carnicero, and I'm until that into the military and I'm
Starting point is 00:07:25 even a way of the work in a carneseria, never I've never did to get to
Starting point is 00:07:30 the animal. And until the day of the need to the
Starting point is 00:07:34 hunger, for so I, I'm not I'm like I'm a life of a life of
Starting point is 00:07:39 so, I'm not a other a person you know, you, you're
Starting point is 00:07:44 you're having been Gaffe? No, no, no, at the final,
Starting point is 00:07:48 it was a dream that I'm so I'm so I'm sure you know, I want to
Starting point is 00:07:52 yeah, I'm going to do you know what I'm a few some days
Starting point is 00:07:57 with my wife that really really the life was a soldier
Starting point is 00:08:02 from the five and I don't I'm in the mismad
Starting point is 00:08:07 to I know in panid I I never
Starting point is 00:08:09 I keep that that my case because never
Starting point is 00:08:12 my tattooed my because I'm at a point of tattooed but it was like I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:08:20 a soldier no me I'm a tattooed until I'm a first of the first
Starting point is 00:08:23 I'm going to go to a vacante in the exerci but it was a
Starting point is 00:08:30 moda that it that's uh, because existen those alucines that's
Starting point is 00:08:35 there are many people and exist those alusines that are not really
Starting point is 00:08:38 they're because it became a kind of a kind of a special of a
Starting point is 00:08:44 sort of a kind of be it. Much not are them are but apparent them
Starting point is 00:08:49 do you don't have in the process of the question of that's like a one of
Starting point is 00:08:56 a hound to be a soldier so my peter comes from the five years
Starting point is 00:08:59 so when when I know the time I enter the I'm a first speciales
Starting point is 00:09:04 is when I in my in my in my in my in my case
Starting point is 00:09:07 to be in my the stuff so that I'm I'm perry
Starting point is 00:09:14 for almost to the city of Mexico, to lose a day of my franchise, that in that time, the franchise or the time of three or four days for a month and a half, two months,
Starting point is 00:09:25 two months, out of your house, and use part of that franchise, part of those three days to go and to the city of Mexico to go,
Starting point is 00:09:32 to present me only voluntary, to the forces specials. And get to here to have been to have a day of your
Starting point is 00:09:39 restance, I said, I always I've always very present to that's the thing, to be
Starting point is 00:09:43 to be able to in the forces specials. I mean, I don't repent of, to have
Starting point is 00:09:47 been in the middle, but unfortunately, I think to many, a much us
Starting point is 00:09:52 when you know, when you know, the forces armed, that you know, you're
Starting point is 00:09:58 doing you know, that's, you know, there, there are things bad,
Starting point is 00:10:03 there are things bad, but I think there many, that live, live the
Starting point is 00:10:07 soldier, we, you know, you you're, you're not you know,
Starting point is 00:10:11 you're count of that because you think that's that's they're
Starting point is 00:10:13 the things and they're they're not a way, you're there's like,
Starting point is 00:10:17 there's there much corruption if us they're to
Starting point is 00:10:21 a, point A, point B to be to be to be to be things,
Starting point is 00:10:24 it's like to act of dissension for disoation for that they were in
Starting point is 00:10:29 the government was there but many of the sometimes it was not they
Starting point is 00:10:33 not they're in pedos no they're not they we're not we never
Starting point is 00:10:39 they're they're they're could be even arregos that's out of the forces
Starting point is 00:10:44 armated, is when you're going to see, you're not you're saying, you're not, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:50 I'm trying, I'm in the way, you know, I didn't know I'd have a guy, and I'm getting a
Starting point is 00:10:56 hand of over, including, into the sobre that this guy was, I was, I'm going,
Starting point is 00:11:01 I'm trying, never, you, no, really not, and they're going to say, because,
Starting point is 00:11:06 because it, because it, it's, because it, but it's, and so, that's always you
Starting point is 00:11:10 see and you you're doing to get a minute to putt over 100
Starting point is 00:11:15 or 200 because the difference is the police to the soldier. We're going to put a
Starting point is 00:11:20 example. When they they're patruyand in Kuliacan an example of the police,
Starting point is 00:11:24 how's how do you a patrol? Municipal or municipal? How
Starting point is 00:11:30 those are four? Three. Four. Here in Guadalajal an example are two.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Imagine in Kulakan three or four. If you agarras $1 $1
Starting point is 00:11:38 $1 you talk, we, for those four elements. No,
Starting point is 00:11:42 but we're talking about that, for example, you, you, you're as a profile
Starting point is 00:11:46 more, more prepared, more, or so, more of the , okay, and then you, in that's,
Starting point is 00:11:56 in that in that in that paper, never accepted. No, because it's that we're
Starting point is 00:12:01 because we're the most back of the scalafone, even even the forces specials,
Starting point is 00:12:05 and even you're like the elite of the nation, you're in the more
Starting point is 00:12:09 below of the scaliphon hierarchical. And what I'm referring to this,
Starting point is 00:12:13 a example, if you're of the forces specials or not you know, the
Starting point is 00:12:16 thing of the thing of the person, you know, the soldier that normally
Starting point is 00:12:24 they're in the 20 people, you're, they're doing, you, they're doing, and you're not, you're doing, and you're , they're, you're,
Starting point is 00:12:38 so you're, that you're going to do you to get to the time to you're going to talk about between 30
Starting point is 00:12:42 weyes. But you're going to be maybe in some moment someone who someone to get back
Starting point is 00:12:46 for 500 pesos. There's a reason. Because if they do they to get a bit of
Starting point is 00:12:52 they're going to they're they're a lot of get to get $100 pesos because of
Starting point is 00:12:58 what's going to be the part of the pay for the he's done to
Starting point is 00:13:02 you can't $200 pesos if that if that will filter maybe some
Starting point is 00:13:05 some video you will get to get to to termin process
Starting point is 00:13:09 legally. And not we're not about the justice civil, but the justice
Starting point is 00:13:14 castrance, that is still more cullero than the life civil. So,
Starting point is 00:13:17 in the risk, no, no, no, it's now, respondient
Starting point is 00:13:22 to, to the time of, if you get you into the forces
Starting point is 00:13:27 speciales, an example, we're going to go for X person. If you you're
Starting point is 00:13:32 going with that person is because the government to you're
Starting point is 00:13:35 to be the And, surely if in a moment there was a negotiation, then it will get to get to you're going to
Starting point is 00:13:44 ask you to ask. The negotiation is no more for the for the chilos. Because imagine, the country is the country in regions
Starting point is 00:13:51 militaries. So, it's a region military. For example, right you're in Guadalajara, that's in Guadalajara,
Starting point is 00:13:57 well, Halisco, Sakatecas, those Nayarit, are various states that perteneensens to the
Starting point is 00:14:02 Kinta Region Milit. So it's much the space territorial that pertainse to this region military.
Starting point is 00:14:10 At the command of this region military, there's a general of division. That general
Starting point is 00:14:14 of division has made to the general to some commandants of the area, because it
Starting point is 00:14:21 being, being it's being being, it's being, it's like the secretariat
Starting point is 00:14:24 of the defense national in Mexico, at the different regions that there in
Starting point is 00:14:30 all the country and every region has zones military, and every zone
Starting point is 00:14:34 military has battalions and every battalion has been a person me explain
Starting point is 00:14:39 there you you're talking and you know and you know that's
Starting point is 00:14:44 not you don't think that will get a malandro the
Starting point is 00:14:49 the name that you want to do you want to do what is a
Starting point is 00:14:54 what is going to do you do you say he's you he was
Starting point is 00:14:58 not you but but and the other guys you don't
Starting point is 00:15:01 you know you you with 4,000 or 30 000 soldos. I'm explice to give a number
Starting point is 00:15:08 more more more than you can negotiate with 30,000 soldiers because are many the logistics
Starting point is 00:15:14 to pay for money to pay a single sobre, that is the region military, that's the
Starting point is 00:15:20 chido, and that that's a chido will say, no, do you, don't,
Starting point is 00:15:24 getens, pongans, mue, and he is the, the, he's the, he's the
Starting point is 00:15:27 is the money, you, you, you, you're you're, you're
Starting point is 00:15:30 going to get, for so not that the military or the police is there
Starting point is 00:15:35 is a a lot of it's more even a other than he is a
Starting point is 00:15:40 person he's he's he's he or he we're going to put
Starting point is 00:15:46 a scenario um you you you you you
Starting point is 00:15:51 you you're you you're you're you ump pamp
Starting point is 00:15:55 pamp i viz three camionette of you three camionettes of passing
Starting point is 00:16:00 and top to two camionettes of cicarians way. So,
Starting point is 00:16:05 they're in the fierros and all the pedo. And if you don't try the
Starting point is 00:16:09 order of combat those, no, no, if you do you do it,
Starting point is 00:16:13 even not receive the order? Because you know is the problem. So,
Starting point is 00:16:20 all this that I do you're saying, carnal, is my perception after
Starting point is 00:16:23 to be in the exercise Mexican. So, what I do you I'm
Starting point is 00:16:26 when I go to the exererced the enter to the security public, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm going how is the structure of the policeia. And in that moment you you're making that the
Starting point is 00:16:38 military, because you you know, you know, because you know, that the marina, that the Guard
Starting point is 00:16:44 National, also are being meted in pedos, but they don't know that they're in the
Starting point is 00:16:48 bronca. Because the the most the more the situation, the the case is the
Starting point is 00:16:53 situation is the police because the police if they say, quitate, putte,
Starting point is 00:16:58 all for telephone. So, nothing for the radio. All the orders always is for the
Starting point is 00:17:02 phone, not for the radio, because the radio is a conversation that they have the conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So, so it's like, moveansse, not they're in pedos. What happens? Many
Starting point is 00:17:14 the police see only orders, for the to be able and that they're not they're
Starting point is 00:17:18 they're not doing, there's there's there's to go to sobe, there's
Starting point is 00:17:22 or no, there you're you're what you are the they're but
Starting point is 00:17:26 many say to not get that the money to get a
Starting point is 00:17:29 money because much of the people it's like they're
Starting point is 00:17:34 men who they're that they that's action the military not
Starting point is 00:17:39 is not conscientian because the soldier is a soldier and the
Starting point is 00:17:44 soldier he and the soldier receive orders the the soldier no
Starting point is 00:17:48 question no question an order the soldier they say move to
Starting point is 00:17:53 a point a point B and the soldier will do it is that they're going to you're going to
Starting point is 00:17:58 you're in a question in a carreterer and they're going to moveansse to to that point to point to because there
Starting point is 00:18:06 a house of security and there people are we're in this scenario in this house and there is a solado
Starting point is 00:18:13 carna he's carg his arms and he's with the adrenaline up to to be
Starting point is 00:18:18 to be able a person sequestra and surprise you get and it's a fruteria
Starting point is 00:18:21 and you you says pinch information false Pinchy, people, just we
Starting point is 00:18:26 the cab of pendejo Pinch and I know, not, no, not analyza the situation
Starting point is 00:18:31 or no manda a team of to get to do this, this denuncia is real,
Starting point is 00:18:37 we, is a putt a putt because me so, so, I'm so, that's
Starting point is 00:18:44 to get a carvened a car, where no, there, but there's where, but,
Starting point is 00:18:51 but, a bit, Pardon. I have the I think I imagine that I'm there's a
Starting point is 00:19:03 there's a when you get a and I'm to say you know, I think you did you
Starting point is 00:19:11 did get on the order in the verga and you see that you're that's you're
Starting point is 00:19:15 not you sometimes when it's carpintery or an example or a or a or a
Starting point is 00:19:20 fruiterian or what yeah You get, and then you, you know, because
Starting point is 00:19:25 are the sections very different. I mean, the first thing, you know, in the Calderon, you met you get to impede
Starting point is 00:19:29 permission, but they're going to the, the, the, the, the, the life, the rights
Starting point is 00:19:34 and it's more recio, and there things that you can't do you, you know, but if you
Starting point is 00:19:39 know, we, we know, we can't, we can't, enter to his domicilio, uh, no,
Starting point is 00:19:44 we're, we're not, we're, but you're, to, of, to, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:49 you know you can't enter if he not you know, but you're verificing the information,
Starting point is 00:19:54 and if you don't have problems, then you know, it's where they're to do you don't you
Starting point is 00:19:59 want to to do you do it. There's, like those dims and directs, because normally
Starting point is 00:20:04 you're occupies a order to do this. If the person to do make, you make
Starting point is 00:20:08 to do do you, me permit to do and it and make to give you're
Starting point is 00:20:13 saying, dund me doing me the authorization to do do you, you, that there absolutely
Starting point is 00:20:19 nothing. But here we're going to your question because of the type of things, because there's
Starting point is 00:20:26 people more around. And this I'm coming when I'm going to the security public,
Starting point is 00:20:30 that the soldier, is a point a, and has a point a question, and the
Starting point is 00:20:36 other person they're and there pass a cargement of arms or pass a convoy
Starting point is 00:20:41 of cicaries or they are going to get to a person and yeah
Starting point is 00:20:44 pass the and to the soldiers yeah no, no,
Starting point is 00:20:48 no, regressence to your, a, uh, a little the kid, pinches,
Starting point is 00:20:53 denuncias anonymous, they're renegating, but they're not saying they're moving to a,
Starting point is 00:20:58 point A, point B, to permit, to permit, to make the access to a, but they're
Starting point is 00:21:02 not they're they're on the soldier, the police he's, he does,
Starting point is 00:21:07 because the police is they're they're not, because it's a corporation that's, maybe,
Starting point is 00:21:11 of a, so, so, so, so, so, so, so they're,
Starting point is 00:21:13 so they're to say, moveete to point A to point B because that
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm in the security public and after that's there's there's quite that you know that's
Starting point is 00:21:24 that you know that maybe the general of the battalion or the general of the area or
Starting point is 00:21:29 the region has a act to they're moving the military but the soldier never
Starting point is 00:21:35 never never never never never never doing under
Starting point is 00:21:38 the people that they are they're being you. I've got to
Starting point is 00:21:44 tell a a story. A see much. I'll about what was
Starting point is 00:21:50 like in the 2011, 2012, more or less was just recently got to
Starting point is 00:21:55 the military and we're a a a town
Starting point is 00:21:58 in the in the city was a rumor very very
Starting point is 00:22:02 great and even even even into the middle the
Starting point is 00:22:05 people we we we we a family of
Starting point is 00:22:10 a person of of a stature. So, it's said that this
Starting point is 00:22:16 person, this person of a big stature segued, he was to this, a little,
Starting point is 00:22:24 because he was to visit a his family, and he had certain donations to this,
Starting point is 00:22:30 to this people. The people was made a, I don't I remember what material
Starting point is 00:22:34 was, but it was a material of all all the houses were made
Starting point is 00:22:37 to the material. I don't know I remember, I did more
Starting point is 00:22:39 But it was a rumor very very strong. We're we're in this place in this place in this place in
Starting point is 00:22:46 this in some moment there's a order, carnal. For the morning, it's a
Starting point is 00:22:53 order to say, to have personnel official, at the command of your personal, is prohibit
Starting point is 00:22:59 the day of the day of the activities administrative as to new viso. What are those activities
Starting point is 00:23:06 administrative? Lavart your uniform, to limpire your armor, things personal or pendenters
Starting point is 00:23:11 or pendenters that have the movement but you know it's military. If you go out of
Starting point is 00:23:16 patrulyar you're committing a deletion and that's a deletions and you can't have been to even after more
Starting point is 00:23:22 to get a prison military, that is the same than a civil, that not you don't they
Starting point is 00:23:28 don't you all those years for to do that movement is the name sobeience
Starting point is 00:23:33 you have to do you're what the mano you are a soldier. What is in the
Starting point is 00:23:39 transcurs of the night, we've seen a fieston, a plomazos, there was
Starting point is 00:23:43 a bit of there. We had a word, and we're the day next time. Renuinen
Starting point is 00:23:50 activities with normality. We came to do the demandado, the dispens we went to come to
Starting point is 00:23:55 get to some to the tendita or the barrotes and a man
Starting point is 00:24:00 he was to be to be for what they're that they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:24:03 they're they're they because yeah was there the that are you
Starting point is 00:24:08 looking to who who's the chaparito you know who's you know people who
Starting point is 00:24:17 he's going to and they're there and he was there is where you say coincidecy that the
Starting point is 00:24:23 people that the person was that he was going to that the people
Starting point is 00:24:28 and to us just the day that they're saying that's they're that's they're
Starting point is 00:24:32 to we're they're to say you there's something you
Starting point is 00:24:37 something no quadra But the soldier, actua with normality, because he no he does a know that they're using.
Starting point is 00:24:43 But if you do you end up soapinging that something that's not bad, that are coincidences that are
Starting point is 00:24:49 going to, or in the fact, they're not it's done a coincidence. And what? And what's
Starting point is 00:24:55 he has to get to be? I mean, so, for example, your channel that has informed much
Starting point is 00:25:00 how is that he he's the government, how is that also that also, many,
Starting point is 00:25:04 so many things that you you, and you, for logic pass
Starting point is 00:25:10 but, but, yeah with details, way, you, you,
Starting point is 00:25:18 this is, this mother, even, even, so the soldiers, way, are used,
Starting point is 00:25:23 well, so, so, but, well, because, the maldard because the
Starting point is 00:25:29 narcotr traffic is, is something so so it is a person, they're,
Starting point is 00:25:34 there's But the well. My question Now now would be a little I have
Starting point is 00:25:41 a question to be a more you know, you see that the narcotrachic is that
Starting point is 00:25:47 that's a or that is what they want to make make. Look
Starting point is 00:25:52 is that depends for example we're we're that that's
Starting point is 00:25:58 something that's something but it's depend the point for
Starting point is 00:26:03 example you can say of someone that's a transport to
Starting point is 00:26:07 transport a substance to the United I don't see a bad at the real of the real.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But someone who someone who's that's that the order of them is to be
Starting point is 00:26:19 to be to be to be to be a but you have to get to
Starting point is 00:26:24 get that because it's because you're because you can't get
Starting point is 00:26:28 a a person to someone that has that
Starting point is 00:26:31 he's who is who is the who is the who
Starting point is 00:26:34 is the investigating if you that's action to quit the life to get a person?
Starting point is 00:26:43 About legally? Not the not the mania, not the contra or to who
Starting point is 00:26:50 is the government, boy. The government to be to be a way legal of the
Starting point is 00:26:54 way of the person. The government is the is the is the bad that you can't
Starting point is 00:26:59 do you do you that all that's that all the same that is
Starting point is 00:27:04 to us, to us, to us, the narco is bad. But then you know that the
Starting point is 00:27:08 same person that's that's that's bad, is who does that's
Starting point is 00:27:13 so it, so it's bad for you. Because that is what you want to make to
Starting point is 00:27:18 the people, but you do you do you do it was what was a
Starting point is 00:27:23 person with the super-police the secretary of security public
Starting point is 00:27:27 the the he was that he was the he was that he was
Starting point is 00:27:32 that he narcotrathic. So it's it's bad because the government no does. But the
Starting point is 00:27:37 government is who's the most trafficker with all this ped. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:39 is that he's said, way. You know, you know, you know, that's a
Starting point is 00:27:46 guy that was a that was, that, that was, that was, was, was, he was,
Starting point is 00:27:52 he. He was was he. He was not in the, in the bunker of the
Starting point is 00:27:58 city of Mexico. And, of this, I asked that, oh, why,
Starting point is 00:28:06 why, every every time that's a government new, for example, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:13 you know, is that more than and they got it the GN, those of the Guardia
Starting point is 00:28:17 National. And, and earlierment, they, they've got to the judicials and met
Starting point is 00:28:23 to those, to the, to, the, they're, PFP, the police preventio.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Simon, so, because, because, because, because, because, is, ah, well, I
Starting point is 00:28:32 go to put now my own men, or, or so, relatively, I know that I'm a
Starting point is 00:28:38 purpose of them of them. But why? Because not adapt to better to the people that and you
Starting point is 00:28:44 say to let's what to do. Because, look, this is my opinion. No,
Starting point is 00:28:51 I'm saying that this pass, but to how I know the government, because
Starting point is 00:28:55 after to do my activities as a military, also I've done peyne activity is as a police or a
Starting point is 00:29:00 commissar of security and a scult of a political and you you know how he does how he's a political we'd say that the political that's a level municipal is like his initial,
Starting point is 00:29:13 his initial in the political, that is the most low at the level municipal but it's making of major relations in the party,
Starting point is 00:29:20 the that you want, so it's made more relations and the day of the day of the day of the state and
Starting point is 00:29:26 after that after that post to level state, at the least you have been to something
Starting point is 00:29:29 and you get to the point to the point to the point of the public in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But you know you at the level state and it's at a level federal. it's exactly the
Starting point is 00:29:56 you. It's a The tropa he's minty when you is going the car of a manned
Starting point is 00:30:00 because he he passed as a subtenient at a moment he's a general but not he's not
Starting point is 00:30:07 he's he's the thing he's the thing the political the political came
Starting point is 00:30:12 from the municipal many many many many people who you
Starting point is 00:30:17 don't you're going to you're to that you have in the
Starting point is 00:30:20 government federal because because he does how he he's how he
Starting point is 00:30:25 with all this or the most I'll do much a way in this.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But why they're in this type of activities for the licitations that's
Starting point is 00:30:34 one of the response more more more evidentes in all this
Starting point is 00:30:37 question to the Guard National the Police Federal because
Starting point is 00:30:41 there are some the solications or the many
Starting point is 00:30:45 many times you are paying some compromise a
Starting point is 00:30:48 compromise that you have with some person and
Starting point is 00:30:51 a or maybe there's certain licitations in the you have a certain
Starting point is 00:30:58 ganace, but also you're a lot of a percentage for the money to get to
Starting point is 00:31:03 make a major, so what what you create a a corporation new. It's the
Starting point is 00:31:10 most easy, we, create a corporation, a policy new, a,
Starting point is 00:31:15 a, a, a, a, a, a, so, so,
Starting point is 00:31:18 all what you think you new, that you It's more personal, implic a equipment. There's a, boy,
Starting point is 00:31:25 so it's, it's an uniform, a uniform complete, equipment, armament, vehicles, all that's,
Starting point is 00:31:33 all over a cost. And if a cheyent, you're going to get in a million and
Starting point is 00:31:37 a million and a little bit of a lot of the money, but yeah he'll
Starting point is 00:31:42 get a money to it. There's, there, there's, there a, and there
Starting point is 00:31:46 a, there's, about, about of a political at a level
Starting point is 00:31:50 in the administration, that's a not about that I'm talking about a peg in a political
Starting point is 00:32:19 they're in what can get to robar to me it's a man it's a lot
Starting point is 00:32:23 they're they're in it's a mann't boy no no no right right
Starting point is 00:32:27 right I'm doing summally some some some five more
Starting point is 00:32:33 that's so easy yeah because you're you're that's a in the
Starting point is 00:32:39 play and the no mamme a way a house in a money they're
Starting point is 00:32:43 so they come they're they're they're they're a million of
Starting point is 00:32:46 a million of You just two millions and a half in a, in a, pardon a racer. He said, no, mams, and you're
Starting point is 00:32:54 and you're going to, the statistic of people that say, what a political at a level municipal and it's a
Starting point is 00:33:03 little bit more, and if our, our accounts, says, nah, man, it's a municipal
Starting point is 00:33:09 so, it's a man, now imagineate a state, now imagine to a level federal. So,
Starting point is 00:33:14 all what you think, this new, that's implicate the people
Starting point is 00:33:19 to do you want to the uniform who are going to the money and they're
Starting point is 00:33:22 the not you do you want to be to get to do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:33:28 do something because you'll investes to do you and you start
Starting point is 00:33:32 the because you're there can't unities new into the
Starting point is 00:33:38 the one of the unit of the thing and the thing that's
Starting point is 00:33:42 a that's a new new a new All I implicated a
Starting point is 00:33:47 a billiette. Now, imagine a guardia national? They're lured on that. They're not. Because it's at the level federal. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So, so, so, not I'm not I'm saying that this but as one knows
Starting point is 00:34:02 the, the, the politics of this side of this law says, it's, it's more
Starting point is 00:34:05 more a baro that you're to start agarando. And where more is in
Starting point is 00:34:12 Mexico is in the security public. That is where that it's the security public and in
Starting point is 00:34:18 the works is where more billets but is where more billets and it's where more billets a lot of bivetable
Starting point is 00:34:27 of a carpet of a cartetit of 5 centimeters the dineral that it the money and in
Starting point is 00:34:33 really it's making making to create to the people of 15 centimeters of a carpet
Starting point is 00:34:38 or 10 centimeters of carpet is a a manadita that in a year
Starting point is 00:34:42 you not will serve that you convine that not
Starting point is 00:34:46 serve. The people are they're doing they're they're going to do you they're going to
Starting point is 00:34:52 it's not to make a more to make it more than because it's not a costiable for the government
Starting point is 00:34:57 to make a carreter or a carreterer that you go to a little to
Starting point is 00:35:02 a video you know, you know, you know, that's the ped. To you it's the
Starting point is 00:35:08 thing it can't be to be a material very to to get to
Starting point is 00:35:11 and that the security of the brother. In works public's this.
Starting point is 00:35:15 In the security there's many resources for the police and much resources for
Starting point is 00:35:21 the military marino and in reality little is reflected in the element
Starting point is 00:35:25 you know. Pocos is reflected because because everyone did a robadera
Starting point is 00:35:29 and he went for you for you for you what is the
Starting point is 00:35:36 element a better prepared in the government or the
Starting point is 00:35:41 of the soldiers, of the policeies, which is the one is the the most prepared, way.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Who's, how's how's it that's no, way, we, when they're
Starting point is 00:35:56 when they're they're these these bergas in the participation to get to someone.
Starting point is 00:36:02 The altomando, the forces specials of the where you're
Starting point is 00:36:06 you? Where you I was in forces speciales and I'm
Starting point is 00:36:10 there of the forces speciales there's another other unit more small one more selecta of not know
Starting point is 00:36:16 how many people are there and that's for invite so they're that they they're in
Starting point is 00:36:22 that you have a contact to that you have that you that is when you're when they're
Starting point is 00:36:29 when they're there's because there is what the colloquial they're they're glas at
Starting point is 00:36:34 command altomando the force special of reaction they're they're when you
Starting point is 00:36:39 there's there Those are those who those that, those that in Kulakam
Starting point is 00:36:44 participated. In what it? It was a Saturday, way. I think they were there
Starting point is 00:36:49 and they're that they did a garre in in four rios, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:55 no, they're not, no, they're, they're, how are, if you can show,
Starting point is 00:36:59 a little, how, how is the uniform, how are, how are, so, and normally,
Starting point is 00:37:04 and normally, the, where you are, these people, of the part of the
Starting point is 00:37:10 the country. A minute I'll just to let me the way. Because no,
Starting point is 00:37:16 man, there's there's there's there's the rame of the army of the
Starting point is 00:37:20 army of the political, because all that that that matter is
Starting point is 00:37:23 so, so, so, uh, way, I, say, I,
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm, I'm, I'm, no, not, not, they're, they're,
Starting point is 00:37:36 they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they
Starting point is 00:37:41 of the unities where I pertainty. Oh, okay, those who were the people who are in the type of
Starting point is 00:37:45 uniform, you know, for the type of accessories that train in in their, in their in their or the
Starting point is 00:37:51 aesthetic that they're going into the this, this, for example, he's of the flog.
Starting point is 00:37:56 How, how, how, Harush, Harush, something, that's that's used to a Culeyakan
Starting point is 00:38:03 also. The, currently is the Secretary of Security Public. I think is the
Starting point is 00:38:09 Bato, that's one of them? No, he is the Secretary of Security Public. But he, under the command, no, he, no, because this type of
Starting point is 00:38:17 people, pertain to the forces armed as to the army. Ah, okay. So, it's very independent of the security public.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It's, we're going to be encamined. It's a very different, under an authority very different, the army.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And to this are the top, thenro of the military. This is the top the, the top of the that says,
Starting point is 00:38:35 to the, well, what's, it's, when they're when they're comes an
Starting point is 00:38:40 order very direct. If I'm going to operate to the pendejo, we'll
Starting point is 00:38:44 say it's a form. For example, it's not that you are not that you're doing this because then the
Starting point is 00:38:53 audience, the people that's the person that's a media, know, is very well,
Starting point is 00:38:57 this type of things. And more because, one example, there's there's much personal of
Starting point is 00:39:03 this type of organizations that their people, who's who's who's the great
Starting point is 00:39:08 majority are militaries, marinos, or have been doing a minimum, they've been a person
Starting point is 00:39:13 that's under the middle. So they're not very well as the thing or the organization
Starting point is 00:39:20 in the military. So, an example of this person that's that's in that
Starting point is 00:39:25 operation, so it was with the detention of Ovidio. That person that's personal.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Ah, that's that's that's what you're that's filthraining, is that's well is well
Starting point is 00:39:36 that's that's been of the cases, including even even even to the
Starting point is 00:39:41 demerita the act of the person, not for the security, but for ensalzor
Starting point is 00:39:47 or enaltecern maybe something, maybe, something that's being with this. Recurred them,
Starting point is 00:39:54 we're in the second occasion that they're on Ovidio he's they're getting
Starting point is 00:39:59 depending, according elements of the Guard National because they're they say
Starting point is 00:40:02 the they say that they say that they they're when they they're when they
Starting point is 00:40:07 they're the detention. But initially, not I did I, the president, initially he said the Guard
Starting point is 00:40:15 National. This type of things, why it was, because we remember we, that the Guard National was part
Starting point is 00:40:20 of their administration, and to who was to the Guard National. And for many operatives that
Starting point is 00:40:26 could be the Army, the marina, they're to do it to the administration.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like, for example, in the Sexts of Pean-Nietto, we're we're not we're
Starting point is 00:40:35 we're the military know the very well that we're those militares or the forces speciales of the
Starting point is 00:40:44 military, they were to a case, but they were adjudicable to the marina, because that was the order,
Starting point is 00:40:50 that all the, all what was generated of, of, these, operatives or of good
Starting point is 00:40:56 actions that were doing or good things that were doing to do they they were those points
Starting point is 00:41:02 good to the marina. No, they were they were they were them to But is well-savid what
Starting point is 00:41:07 happened in the detention of Ovidio. There are videos. There's much information of what occurred as for that a unit conventional, that we know, the level of
Starting point is 00:41:15 the arreggles that can get to a unit conventional of the Guardia National to do that the detention to a person
Starting point is 00:41:21 to a personage and so a person who you know, it's like you know, it's like if you me quis
Starting point is 00:41:26 in the 90 exists the chupacabras. It's the time. It's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:41:31 it's, but, the endemano is that the unit that participated in this
Starting point is 00:41:37 type of people, so they're in this how many people let's, that's people, they've been
Starting point is 00:41:43 there's, I, don't, but they're not, I think I, I,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I did, I, for the, so, for the , so, for the kind of,
Starting point is 00:41:52 to be a video, tanted to a, three hundred, things, different, of these,
Starting point is 00:41:57 as the one of the I, the one to the, but, but, but,
Starting point is 00:42:01 of these, of these, of the what's, you, I don't know. For a little
Starting point is 00:42:06 50, 60, for a little. And so they're doing. And so many. And are various, are?
Starting point is 00:42:11 So, are they, is the force a air, is the forces is, we are, we
Starting point is 00:42:16 know, we know, and it's, you know, you know, you know, you know, he's a
Starting point is 00:42:20 badadoado, and then they're, they're those who are the people are those who
Starting point is 00:42:26 are going to do they, and the, and the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:42:31 the, the, the, the, the, by the personage that you want to, in this case, in this case,
Starting point is 00:42:37 Ovidio, for that not try to get to get to dovety, then to the forces specials,
Starting point is 00:42:41 like those who pertaince and you, to make to, have to, to, to be able
Starting point is 00:42:48 to be able to to this personhap as it's how it's an operation of this
Starting point is 00:42:53 embergur. So, is much the personal that's is still more the personal that
Starting point is 00:42:59 is still more, way, have, been in the years that during the
Starting point is 00:43:07 year in the house where you're the information that has, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:13 way, as it caused so that you have impressioned, we, to say,
Starting point is 00:43:21 a verga way, I never think that the the the the
Starting point is 00:43:24 army has done this, or or a mission that that if
Starting point is 00:43:30 did, that if did, that si were passed of the
Starting point is 00:43:32 answer so what they used so all the whole, the
Starting point is 00:43:39 what is the the you can you say, no mame wes
Starting point is 00:43:44 another pedo way, another pedo is impressive boy what what they
Starting point is 00:43:48 did you what they're this information or this you know this you this is
Starting point is 00:43:54 you I'm this I'm saying people that I know
Starting point is 00:44:01 that I'm that are in that's I'm I'm I'm I'm a
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm to get a one of the we're going to not you know that you're notes you're
Starting point is 00:44:12 you're that you put in a moment you're at this last the forces
Starting point is 00:44:16 speciales we're we're not we're people who don't know I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:24 that I'm don't too I'm demit who's it's a course of five hundred wheyes
Starting point is 00:44:28 for specials they're graduate 100 weas or less of 100 weels in
Starting point is 00:44:32 six months. You're talking about that's about the military's about the time of the
Starting point is 00:44:37 workes. You know, you're those who's those who's there's not even that's
Starting point is 00:44:43 being a force or regular. I'm explain. So, what the people don't see
Starting point is 00:44:49 know that the more little is an armanddad then more fast you
Starting point is 00:44:54 knowces people and more more fast is like in some in some point
Starting point is 00:44:57 I know that that's that's specials, and he was with me in a
Starting point is 00:45:01 course. We've used to some time. Because me took it. So, what the
Starting point is 00:45:06 people know when one says certain information is because someone
Starting point is 00:45:12 that's there's there's there me and when someone of a
Starting point is 00:45:15 and he said, wait, the pedo was because the pedo
Starting point is 00:45:20 was because someone of the most out to you
Starting point is 00:45:23 are saying we we we we pass we
Starting point is 00:45:27 we but if we see we've seen with a sense we're saying we're that you're the way that
Starting point is 00:45:36 has a voice or you have a voice very important or a piece very important in the time of security and if you
Starting point is 00:45:43 do you you know maybe maybe someone to get that's we're going to we're not
Starting point is 00:45:51 we're doing the second operation of Ovidio when it that's the that is the thing that's
Starting point is 00:45:56 that's a thing for that one of they're saying, we're not we're going to give to do that
Starting point is 00:46:00 we're going to do that's very, very, very, very, very so he was in company of his family.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And also, it's like I'm talking about with Miguel. So, we know, we're not so we're
Starting point is 00:46:14 so we're not, we're not we're doing. So, we're this, this is too is so much because we're
Starting point is 00:46:22 people that you're people who, we're doing, and if you're So if you're going to do you
Starting point is 00:46:27 and the mother, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing to do you know, because that's of cobards. To you know
Starting point is 00:46:34 to do that form. And many have this code and they're not going to do the operation because there was the family.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But the order was, yeah, it was so if it was even, even if it was even,
Starting point is 00:46:47 because I imagine that the government was, I'm going to make the part of the people,
Starting point is 00:46:54 does the of a other, car. I mean, so the operations of a embergadura
Starting point is 00:46:59 major or of a scale like this type, they're not for months, carnal. And they're
Starting point is 00:47:04 only the desquido. That's what they're that's what you're to get that in a situation
Starting point is 00:47:10 in the most comfortable for the both part's way, so for the that you're so that you
Starting point is 00:47:16 so, that if you if there's not a necessity that there's it was a good operation carna,
Starting point is 00:47:21 when one when an operation, we're we're not gave a a cut a
Starting point is 00:47:25 second an excellent operation. Maybe it's for the other operation is the way.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But you don't want to get a vergasos so you know even if you're a vergasos carnal. So,
Starting point is 00:47:38 that is like there are limits. There are limits that not they're to do you do you're
Starting point is 00:47:43 there. And when this case you're me said we're saying, we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:47:49 practically I think we're we're not we're and here is the information
Starting point is 00:47:52 of how is the operation. What is a going on
Starting point is 00:47:56 the metro not is a problem of the fallas of the metro. They're doing
Starting point is 00:48:01 sabotages in the metro. And I start to say a thing of that you
Starting point is 00:48:06 know, when I'm filter and I'm even even even still even was even
Starting point is 00:48:10 to get the way of the thing. It's there's about there's about
Starting point is 00:48:15 there's when it's put this put this put cagadero but who
Starting point is 00:48:19 me it was someone was a someone It's because it's
Starting point is 00:48:25 the type of things like the metro there's some specializes
Starting point is 00:48:31 in contra terrorism because this is considered terrorism that you don't
Starting point is 00:48:35 they're it is terrorism and you you could annexar as
Starting point is 00:48:38 as you say that you there there is a place
Starting point is 00:48:46 that you can be a other so so so so is
Starting point is 00:48:49 that is terrorism to do this type of
Starting point is 00:48:51 act in a unit of the metro and what is generating but who who is a specialist in this
Starting point is 00:48:59 type of services. So, and this is like, and this, do it, more than you, not do you
Starting point is 00:49:06 because no it's been to you, comment it, to the for the people who are to say,
Starting point is 00:49:11 that's not that's a that's... That's was that. That's was armed, so,
Starting point is 00:49:14 so I'm with what? And with what? Fienes political, but if fines
Starting point is 00:49:19 political for to get a feria? To destabilize an administration? How, you know, you're destabilizes
Starting point is 00:49:25 an administration political, generating a problem, a crisis, and that they're a great majority of times, not are used to
Starting point is 00:49:34 a manho of crisis, and when they're in, the grand majority, want to start the time the more rapid
Starting point is 00:49:39 possible. Because they're not, the more, they're not much, and mancharing the form,
Starting point is 00:49:47 it's too car, they're not a situation of crisis. The government yamses federal or municipal,
Starting point is 00:49:51 those put us in crisis, that they're not accustomed to be there. They're in the personnel to do. But nobody want to manchar their administration
Starting point is 00:49:58 and that you say, this occurred so, is it's going this, you're manchando the administration and nobody
Starting point is 00:50:05 want to do because they have aspirations political. Detrash of one, there's a other
Starting point is 00:50:09 and if you let's manch the administration, it's to put more difficult to the
Starting point is 00:50:14 the level of the level of the government that you want to you want
Starting point is 00:50:19 more difficult. then, then they're going to get the cadenita and they
Starting point is 00:50:21 want to the party because they're going to the party to make a administration to make
Starting point is 00:50:28 to do that to the administration? To the that was actually, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:50:35 the, the, but this said that not was a thing political, that was a
Starting point is 00:50:40 thing of and it and not is real. They're they're saying that were failures
Starting point is 00:50:45 in the metro. The government are, are, so, are
Starting point is 00:50:47 failures in the metro. what was going is that it was going was going to was there being sabotages to the lines of
Starting point is 00:50:54 the metro in represalia for what was going to in the moment. A be refresh me a little
Starting point is 00:51:01 is that we know we don't we have aparted of the operation of Ovidio it's it says that
Starting point is 00:51:05 when it they're getting there pedos in represalia to the detention that they've done in
Starting point is 00:51:11 in Sinaloa and they they're they're these subposts sabotages in the
Starting point is 00:51:15 line of the metro but the government one says, no, no,
Starting point is 00:51:19 are sabotages. This is, are some failures in the metro. But when me me they're in
Starting point is 00:51:23 this, it's before the government to say, are there's a time, it's
Starting point is 00:51:29 there's been a two that's, I'm not about, I'm going to say, and then it
Starting point is 00:51:41 was a time to be, they're not, they're they're not they're not they're is very difficult in the
Starting point is 00:51:48 actuality. All we're we're doing we're doing we're not we're we're not, we're
Starting point is 00:51:51 we're we're going to talk about, and we're all the hands. But how they're
Starting point is 00:51:56 they're failures, but it's a little a level represale for what
Starting point is 00:52:05 was going. Okay, then the really not was not ever was never he,
Starting point is 00:52:10 sincerely I think it's a thing that no I've seen that I'm
Starting point is 00:52:13 a So, to what I'm understanding, pass to the detention of Fulano and not they're not with the
Starting point is 00:52:26 administration present, that was a morena? It was a man, and we're that certain
Starting point is 00:52:34 people not were in the detention of him, for the other or something
Starting point is 00:52:39 that had had been before before that, no not how
Starting point is 00:52:46 not, no, no, they're to get to be pedus in the
Starting point is 00:52:51 Mexico. So, but here here also is well so what what
Starting point is 00:52:58 not only only here in Mexico, we're we're talking in in the countries that
Starting point is 00:53:03 in places that have in this type of acts, a sometimes they're
Starting point is 00:53:06 they're they're they're adjudicating to people that even even even
Starting point is 00:53:11 they're same is it adjudic to make the we're doing the we're in
Starting point is 00:53:15 the time of the time in the time in the things of the media orient that way that's the
Starting point is 00:53:21 group who is that that's doing that that's another group and that we're not
Starting point is 00:53:26 we're just we're just just nobody's nobody's nobody has
Starting point is 00:53:30 nobody's I'm so for to make that you that you
Starting point is 00:53:35 have an attack a attack terrorista of this but you no do you
Starting point is 00:53:40 do you But there's where they enter in those analyses of this group no, this group no has the knowledge, no the resources,
Starting point is 00:53:47 not they're they're doing, but we're not they're they're, it's not, the same occurred here.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Much of the many of the people can say, ah, the pedo is because they're Ovidio, but we're
Starting point is 00:53:58 going to gogare to let's get the cause for the detention of Ovidio, and at what maybe,
Starting point is 00:54:03 not even a carthel is. A-lo is a group of a group political, that's a situation
Starting point is 00:54:09 to take a case a act to be a person to do you a person
Starting point is 00:54:22 that's a a person who's that's a caradero, no? is a caradero, boy. You put a one example,
Starting point is 00:54:31 and for you know, to compare you, for that if me you say, you know, you're, you've been the
Starting point is 00:54:38 thing that has been the thing that has been for repressal of Ovidio, I don't I mean I mean I know
Starting point is 00:54:42 I think I think I'm sure I'm sure that it's chacko the pedo the situation
Starting point is 00:54:49 of that they were a well they were they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:54:54 they're they're you know you know you know I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:54:59 I'm so I'm so that's that's that's that's you're
Starting point is 00:55:04 that's what is in si an team of a I can't make an idea,
Starting point is 00:55:11 those the people of the choque, the known the known, the known, not we're doing we're going to
Starting point is 00:55:16 say, we're going to talk about the political. Yes, the people of the parties that are, that's,
Starting point is 00:55:22 that's, that's, that's, that's, do you know, does it, all, those,
Starting point is 00:55:27 the color that you want to, you want to a level municipal, state or federal, they're,
Starting point is 00:55:32 they're not, people, they're, the people, the people that's the people that's the muggero,
Starting point is 00:55:38 and that's, no, no, no, in what you ligue, if you get to get a tighorn, and they get to get to get to me, no, there's
Starting point is 00:55:46 nothing that you unah to be in a certain, and there's paying because you're getting called, and you know,
Starting point is 00:55:51 you know, they're kebran to the verga, who's is paying the service. But this normally is very much in things
Starting point is 00:55:58 political for desestabilize to the party contrary. To what I referio? This, an example,
Starting point is 00:56:06 the, the of the marches of the feminists. I'll put that example and the
Starting point is 00:56:09 police that a person in Istlauacan here very very close of Guadalajara. Are the two examples
Starting point is 00:56:16 equal. What is? Feminists. The women get, they're doing their march all right.
Starting point is 00:56:22 They're being, they're playing their rights and no, the child of their
Starting point is 00:56:26 put a mother that he needs all the mismatter, all the violence with a
Starting point is 00:56:31 bomb Molotot. And what what's a way on the the cabo of the
Starting point is 00:56:35 night. A only only only only is a anpugon to generate anarchy
Starting point is 00:56:38 and the women just occupant in this situation only occupant that's emphuson to start with the violence. Who thinks that he did that this emphugon here? Someone of an team of choque? Who thinks
Starting point is 00:56:52 that he's who's the empojohn? When passed the thing of the police that a person, a group of a choque? Those are the the equipes of the shock and no is that they're just, are you, are some creencers?
Starting point is 00:57:03 I was. And he's a image of the cabron that I see yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:09 yeah, he's done to do this thing to do what partido and who was the kid of the
Starting point is 00:57:15 mother, he was going to do it in Mexico, he's in Kerectaro, he did in Guadalajara
Starting point is 00:57:21 with the of the womenists, pardon, with the the policeies and he he did
Starting point is 00:57:25 another other with the other of the team of chock and a party political he was
Starting point is 00:57:31 he was this way he gets destabilized with all this desmatter all this
Starting point is 00:57:37 cagadero they're they're they're to make to make to get the municipality
Starting point is 00:57:43 the state or the state or the state and this and it generates to the
Starting point is 00:57:48 government a crisis and it has when the party counter I say
Starting point is 00:57:52 I I'm I'm I'm the movements feminists have
Starting point is 00:57:56 to get to these pinces puercos and only they're
Starting point is 00:57:58 using that they're when I'm when this government no
Starting point is 00:58:03 no we'll not we'll vote we the other the he's not he's
Starting point is 00:58:06 he used he used that movement to the favor to desistabilize to the administration
Starting point is 00:58:11 contrary so is how it the policy my man I took
Starting point is 00:58:15 we me it took know what it not not so
Starting point is 00:58:20 not a grand scale but I'm gave examples but
Starting point is 00:58:24 me they're they imagine this way you you
Starting point is 00:58:29 part of this of this ped and the reunion nothing cellulares
Starting point is 00:58:36 so is you're they're they're they're they're in the reunion with
Starting point is 00:58:42 that partio political to be before to get to get to watch you're watching
Starting point is 00:58:47 you get you're they're they're various filters in a way
Starting point is 00:58:52 that you get to this cell where you and that you don't
Starting point is 00:58:55 tryas nothing nothing that you can't you can't nothing neither
Starting point is 00:59:02 all all the thing in the and then if you see, they're
Starting point is 00:59:07 that I'm you know they're they're they're they're and they're
Starting point is 00:59:14 to end up you I'm you know I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:59:19 I'm where you and I contract to the Gap to get to
Starting point is 00:59:25 a new in this business we're to be been to
Starting point is 00:59:28 but my you do you do something, I I can't
Starting point is 00:59:33 undir. With what? Well, look. So, water fresh. So,
Starting point is 00:59:39 so there, way, it's the pedo, because, for that
Starting point is 00:59:42 is that many that are in a political not not
Starting point is 00:59:47 to relucy, but that's that he ha, my hither my jit my gus,
Starting point is 00:59:54 you, then, so, he did this, and I'm this, and I'm
Starting point is 00:59:57 there, I'm So, I'm going to this of the batto that I said that I said,
Starting point is 01:00:05 we, that he he's worked in the policeia of intelligence. This batto
Starting point is 01:00:10 us that we know, that all the politicians when are presidents of the
Starting point is 01:00:18 state, no, I'm a municipies. No, of the federal, we,
Starting point is 01:00:23 of the country, he, does a carpetit to each one of the other parties,
Starting point is 01:00:32 and they're and they're in the for if a berg of them to get a thing, to do you?
Starting point is 01:00:40 A be, my hitho? A-pok, if, no, ah, well, I'm,
Starting point is 01:00:44 I'm, this and this, and this. If not you're, you're going to endir. And then
Starting point is 01:00:50 then, after that, they're what they've wanted to do that that president, and those
Starting point is 01:00:57 have goted And so, it's like a certain amnasse for each one of the other politicians that
Starting point is 01:01:05 want to pass to do that. For that's, I imagine that exist in the equipes to
Starting point is 01:01:10 make sure. But I imagine I'm I'm sure where where where's the thing the thingas.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But as in this case, talking to like an example, it's obvious for
Starting point is 01:01:21 you being the political, but not you're going to say it's this ped because
Starting point is 01:01:26 you're doing, you're confirming that there was a way. You have to have to
Starting point is 01:01:31 get a metro. More they're not even they're doing. I'm
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm talking about this way of the of the, of the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:01:39 the, he had photographs, of him. It's always. It's always.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, always was the same, he was doing his demad in all the marches, and we were, and it was,
Starting point is 01:01:50 and it was, and it did, you know, no more, talk to have violence something.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Something. Something. Why? You know, you know, so you imagine. So,
Starting point is 01:02:03 so it's kind of when it's when it happened about the detention of video,
Starting point is 01:02:09 for many politicians, it's like, this is the moment for I do because there's a good
Starting point is 01:02:16 if there's a person to who they can to chackar that ped and not they're
Starting point is 01:02:22 when they are when they're when they're when they are vergasos of
Starting point is 01:02:27 all the and they're the same it's the no more that's it's a puttas that's a puttas
Starting point is 01:02:33 came to a puttas a lot of all you're and you know know where where you got the
Starting point is 01:02:40 ballita because you know you're getting putasus but you know you you're not not
Starting point is 01:02:45 not that's not really that's we're not we're we're not information but you
Starting point is 01:02:51 know you you know that there there's that you know you know you know where not
Starting point is 01:02:56 where you the put-as. It's a bit a pinche politics. It's
Starting point is 01:02:59 a way. It's a question of it. It's a thing. It's
Starting point is 01:03:02 something way. And, fiat of this me I can imagine
Starting point is 01:03:10 that in in the majority way of the presidents because they're
Starting point is 01:03:20 like so like so how how they're way, for
Starting point is 01:03:26 to be comfortable, or to be to be to be a good, conscience,
Starting point is 01:03:30 security after to do because of doing so they're so on political
Starting point is 01:03:38 do you but they're still being people or so they're
Starting point is 01:03:43 being being people but what is what they they're they're
Starting point is 01:03:46 they have of different because I I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:03:51 a 100 people if they're political I think a little
Starting point is 01:03:57 percentage me would be a point of then to have to have those
Starting point is 01:04:02 people in their head to say I'm saying, you know, so
Starting point is 01:04:08 all the cagadero that you can't do you but but okay
Starting point is 01:04:14 you want you want you want what kind of that
Starting point is 01:04:19 in she has to have that person to
Starting point is 01:04:23 say me It's like, verga, whew. I'm but I want to be
Starting point is 01:04:27 political. I want to do this. Pan, pan, pan, a cagadero, but I
Starting point is 01:04:32 want to be political. Look, I don't do you, I'll talk about and this is
Starting point is 01:04:36 very subjective. This is I'm a military, carnal. Very independent that you have,
Starting point is 01:04:42 from the time, I'm not still in the media, but the mentality still being
Starting point is 01:04:45 being being being being the lexico of my vocabulary, the gerga castrance
Starting point is 01:04:50 and all the habits are still being control and say, this
Starting point is 01:04:55 or this, this or no, this or no, I don't I'm going to do you know, I'm
Starting point is 01:04:59 not a mind that I'm a lot of a little to a little to a new thing. Because
Starting point is 01:05:04 they're because are things that you can't keep. And something that's not you can't
Starting point is 01:05:09 be able to analyze to the person. Because it was part of my work, start to be
Starting point is 01:05:14 to be a person there's there's a video very, very viral of the
Starting point is 01:05:19 excoct of Putin, the president of Russia that his eyes see so,
Starting point is 01:05:25 not not more of them. It's something that's a very metito of people who have been
Starting point is 01:05:31 a risk or have gone a risk of their life. This case, I see the the soldiers
Starting point is 01:05:35 when they're in the many, many, but when no, be those they're
Starting point is 01:05:39 they're on all different. The eyes, they're looking for all
Starting point is 01:05:42 different, they're they're analyzing, they're they're not, they're
Starting point is 01:05:47 the thing, is that all they're the same problem. All
Starting point is 01:05:51 all the same factor that the political, ambred the power.
Starting point is 01:05:55 The power. So, not is the money. It's the good. And I
Starting point is 01:05:59 do it because I don't know because I'm very good relation with various I'm very good is that you
Starting point is 01:06:23 can't and you can't do you can't you can't and in a moment I said
Starting point is 01:06:27 the question because because no they need a need so you have much your family is rich of
Starting point is 01:06:34 abolengo. Because you're in the political for the power. Because the power
Starting point is 01:06:39 you do more money and the power to do relations and the
Starting point is 01:06:44 relations of one or other form they can do they
Starting point is 01:06:48 they're that you can that you that make you that you
Starting point is 01:06:51 make you a food. The power to give to that. You can't have much money and many people are to be able to
Starting point is 01:07:00 be able to get to your circle of the person who's being political to people who want to have a relation
Starting point is 01:07:07 with you want to get a little more a little bit a a little a little a little a little
Starting point is 01:07:13 when when you when you're when you're when you're when you know they're they're because you're
Starting point is 01:07:18 that with the money the money and the relations, because you're a person powerous. And what I've seen of the politicians is that when they're in that point of power,
Starting point is 01:07:29 they're feeling intokable. And I've seen. But nothing more equivocados are these people. Because if me me said, chingat you a politician, then I'll analyze your strategy and see where I go to chingar. That's always to
Starting point is 01:07:45 chingar, for the side where the most confiated you're seeing. What's going to do, at the best, in your house, at the one of a reunion with your family, that is where
Starting point is 01:07:52 most confiated you're a question and it's where you're going to take your opportunity to
Starting point is 01:07:56 get to but the people are all the time all the time they're all the time are because they
Starting point is 01:08:03 feel like intokables because they they're the government of their side. I mean
Starting point is 01:08:08 I'm a police to the the the general because the alcalde can't all the
Starting point is 01:08:16 all this all this comes to be the power carna what they are you they're
Starting point is 01:08:19 looking is is power because the great majority of them yeah they're
Starting point is 01:08:22 water. Water fresh. And how how do you define that person who
Starting point is 01:08:29 that's that person who's how you're depressive anxios alcoholics the
Starting point is 01:08:37 the great majority of politicians are alcoholics like no you know of all
Starting point is 01:08:40 the politicians that I know all super alcoholics we all
Starting point is 01:08:46 they're they have zero or I think that's
Starting point is 01:08:51 that's could use the political of a more form. But,
Starting point is 01:08:54 but for them better, carnal. The political, as a political are bad
Starting point is 01:09:26 people, but are hypocrites as you know because they're not you know, they're because they're because they're
Starting point is 01:09:33 because I say, because I said, because I'm because I'm because that's the
Starting point is 01:09:40 political. So how you're going with this person that you know that you know,
Starting point is 01:09:44 so is the political? Migaf. I was to say my name. My Gaffe.
Starting point is 01:09:49 No, no, you know, you know, I know I'm trying to but I'm sure in some
Starting point is 01:09:52 a good way to work in my aheadress and I'm going to be a piece that could be able to put a
Starting point is 01:10:00 that's a point way, that's, you can't even get a way. Netta, man,
Starting point is 01:10:07 no, mack, no, they're not they're, between you, they're not they're not any one
Starting point is 01:10:11 one single code. For that when, now, I mean, I mean, no,
Starting point is 01:10:14 I'm, no, no, I'm, no, I'm, I'm, but I'm,
Starting point is 01:10:18 I'm front of a camera, I'm front of a microphone and not I'm
Starting point is 01:10:22 not a communication but I'm doing the function of a communicer and I feel like
Starting point is 01:10:27 to say the more neutral possible, but I know, I mean, I say you
Starting point is 01:10:33 you're you're you're you're so you but at sometimes they're
Starting point is 01:10:38 even they're more they're more they're they're more more codes
Starting point is 01:10:42 than you because you as our political that you're to
Starting point is 01:10:47 help. Only it's, all you see, it's like an a scale
Starting point is 01:10:52 to get to get a to get to get to the more minimum, what is suffering
Starting point is 01:10:58 a person, and empathize you know, you're going to you're going to you're
Starting point is 01:11:04 when you're when you're you're to get to your mother. If you're feo, it's culler
Starting point is 01:11:11 that form is a my political, it's a my I'm a question
Starting point is 01:11:14 a question And I want that you're very sincere. Since
Starting point is 01:11:20 you since you know, because you and all the role to do you have done
Starting point is 01:11:24 to do you, has received a manasse, way. But an amazza that is
Starting point is 01:11:30 it's that they did it did you have been said. And if you know
Starting point is 01:11:36 you put a water, water fresh. It's that as as you like you
Starting point is 01:11:39 just a moment never to never to never to
Starting point is 01:11:44 never to say a a, a call simply
Starting point is 01:11:47 they're going to do this because if you don't you're doing a question of the
Starting point is 01:11:53 you're to put a to get to not a, to you know, to know you know where you
Starting point is 01:12:00 is the is a bit of you know so in some sometimes if I
Starting point is 01:12:03 get to get a lot of the so first first me came
Starting point is 01:12:09 my car this me incendiar a car before. I'm
Starting point is 01:12:12 there has a right about about about three years
Starting point is 01:12:15 and medium. How do you doing this content? YouTube, like four years.
Starting point is 01:12:19 So, for that's for that I'm not in grano much in the time to start about this
Starting point is 01:12:25 type of things, a less of that's something that I want to give my opinion,
Starting point is 01:12:30 but to be talking about the thing about, I, well, so if
Starting point is 01:12:33 me invite on a podcast, I'm with you do you talk to you do you to have
Starting point is 01:12:38 this type of conversations with people, I'm do you, because one, yeah
Starting point is 01:12:43 I'm So I don't I don't have arms in my house in my house I'm not
Starting point is 01:12:50 that I'm that I'm don't say that they're going to be for you so they're so if they go to go
Starting point is 01:12:57 so if they're to get a fierro and I get me a puttasos out of I'm
Starting point is 01:13:02 I'm trying to but I'm that's like that you know I'm that you get to
Starting point is 01:13:07 the park it's you're to come the there's the don't know
Starting point is 01:13:12 you're turn to turn you're they're they're terminate in granades, in that ped. If they're in, if they're going to,
Starting point is 01:13:21 what I'm going to pass, then you know what I'm going to while they're going to if I'm explain, I think there's certain codes, while you don't you passes to the lance.
Starting point is 01:13:31 But, but sure, that if you're to receive a ball of plomazos, then they're going to do you, to do you,
Starting point is 01:13:35 to do not as as come to say, ah, go, let's let's just, we're going to give us, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:40 the pedo was going are changing much the things. They're changing
Starting point is 01:13:45 much the mentality but you know that the one more you know you know
Starting point is 01:13:50 you know. You know, you know, that's a that's, I'm referred to
Starting point is 01:13:55 the question if the government not was received was a government. I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:59 so it was the car was a government. So, the how you
Starting point is 01:14:03 confirmed? Because if the mania me could chingar you know,
Starting point is 01:14:08 you know, you know, you I've I was I was a political. I was a political. I'm a political.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Because I have to say that you I'm a little that's a secretary that's in a officeina of a government. She's not political.
Starting point is 01:14:24 She has a political. She has a public for a officeina of government. But not is political.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Or political, depending on the case. In this case, I was under politicians, but not political, but
Starting point is 01:14:36 I know how he can't and how act on the equipment, I know actua the government, at a level police,
Starting point is 01:14:42 the army, and I know how actua the maja. It's like when I'll go the same, and not the
Starting point is 01:14:49 question of the way, if they've attacked in some moment, or me have been a
Starting point is 01:14:52 situation, but it was the year, it was the year past. For there they were putting, they're
Starting point is 01:14:58 planting IDES, that are objects explosives improvised in vehicles to be
Starting point is 01:15:04 people, or militares that were to get to get to he had a homulco, uh,
Starting point is 01:15:10 at the, uh, and they said that was the, the place of the four letters. So I said,
Starting point is 01:15:17 I don't, no, the mania no he's a and I'm gonna, I said, no, I don't think that
Starting point is 01:15:25 has been the mania, because the manna of any organization, what you want to call the attention.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah, to know, to nobody he's, to get to get to get to, so,
Starting point is 01:15:36 so if it's a plaza controlable? for you to calentar the plaza if it's your place and
Starting point is 01:15:40 you're a lot of this person a man of a group of a group of chock but as
Starting point is 01:15:45 he's the same to the person who who can to call to call to the
Starting point is 01:15:49 or to the people that's the man who's the malo or the bad the I'm the
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm a question you get a to get a back to who put us explosive we're
Starting point is 01:16:00 we're not we're we're not a verga me the bed or so that in whatever
Starting point is 01:16:05 the government can put you Contra. Exactly. You do a arre,
Starting point is 01:16:10 a-re-a-verga. Here, poachot. It's a moment, actor. We can't give a pajolice to
Starting point is 01:16:14 people. They're doing their demadre. Example. The of the Cemada of Walmars,
Starting point is 01:16:21 they've made of, no-se- -of-the- there were various, various commercials, no,
Starting point is 01:16:27 that were that were doing this type of things and that were they were to check- to the
Starting point is 01:16:33 plaza, that because they didn't to pay this... It's that all the world is
Starting point is 01:16:38 a place yeah, I know how it's in Kuliacan but yeah all everyone is
Starting point is 01:16:42 plaza but in reality how many are you because you know that the place not
Starting point is 01:16:47 so yeah you know that's a lot of people that's people who
Starting point is 01:16:52 I'm a I'm a I'm going to get a and you don't go to get to
Starting point is 01:16:58 a guy of a three, four cabrons that's that's that's going to be all
Starting point is 01:17:03 they're to do it plaza, no, they're going to go to them to be going to be
Starting point is 01:17:07 to get to get to ching to the plaza to the plaza to the plaza. A bit, let me. Investigame
Starting point is 01:17:11 who's, who are going to do you. And I'm going to get the place no calient to the plaza
Starting point is 01:17:20 and more when there's when there's kind of of the government of the state of Halisco to say,
Starting point is 01:17:26 were the four and says, no. Yeah, I also. I mean me comment something
Starting point is 01:17:32 something, because, I actually I went just in those days, we, and I said,
Starting point is 01:17:38 no, I said, my wife, me said, hey, Carlito, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:40 you know, that's going to say, I'm saying, I don't think. No, I think. And apart,
Starting point is 01:17:47 I said, no, it's so, because I'm going to be a honest, way,
Starting point is 01:17:52 and it's and it's so, that the place more just a place the way.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It's illogic, how they are to do? so, for that also, that's that's
Starting point is 01:18:03 it's like that's, it's like, an adult, because you know, you're not a little bit, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:10 you know, you know, you know, you know, that's a can't have to get a carretise,
Starting point is 01:18:17 and they're to get that got to get to your mother and the abetable to say,
Starting point is 01:18:21 I'm not I'm sorry, he's, he's, he's, he's got to the government, way,
Starting point is 01:18:26 so we, we're just we're doing, we're doing, we're, it's been said, that the
Starting point is 01:18:29 Plaza of Guadalajara is very very tranquil. So, so that's, that p.mame, that said, that pedd, no, that p. So that p. Do you do is a group of choque, and they're going to be able to, and I'm going to, and it's that the people, no, you're of the four letters.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And so, you're just to, no, you're in the Sinaloa. No, way, is that no, no, no, no, no, more for to make a problem. When you know, when you know, when you know, when you know, the cause not for there. So, so, you most well, when when I do my opinion is
Starting point is 01:18:58 the most neutral possible. I don't me inclinio no, it's that you, no, it's that you,
Starting point is 01:19:05 no, is that you're saying you're going, you're going, to the last of the explosions, and you know, is that,
Starting point is 01:19:10 you know, you knowces, how is that the time, and you know, you know, you're going to get around,
Starting point is 01:19:15 this type of to do things, but who who's been doing it's people, you've been, you've been,
Starting point is 01:19:21 that's been, the, the, the, I've been, not, but, so,
Starting point is 01:19:25 is very that if you're specifying. I've been, I've specified because it's like a little and me question another thing.
Starting point is 01:19:32 So, when I'm going to your question, when I came after the car, you did it the time to
Starting point is 01:19:38 investigate me that's just that end to be that time to do that's work of workes of
Starting point is 01:19:44 intelligence. Bah, there's the first thing, I'm that they're that's they're not
Starting point is 01:19:49 going to be because they're not because they're that's the time, I was to be
Starting point is 01:19:55 to be house and had cortes in my house, because I was a work with a
Starting point is 01:20:00 little bit more I'm sure would have actually a way, but they're they're not in my
Starting point is 01:20:04 house. Me kem in the car as a matter not a manna no abjured,
Starting point is 01:20:10 but if you don't know, he's like my thing, but the next he's going to be
Starting point is 01:20:14 a better, or the other would be a this not, this is the mania. This is
Starting point is 01:20:19 political. Well, me kemann the Camaro a the time, I had
Starting point is 01:20:25 a, a mom of my daughter, so I'm so I'm so I'm because at the
Starting point is 01:20:30 point of the time, it's not because you know, because I'm going to have to get to be moving to,
Starting point is 01:20:34 or a situation, that's a way, when you have a time, when you get a car to you,
Starting point is 01:20:40 but you're a little, you're in, you're in, you're in, you're always to go to my
Starting point is 01:20:47 I'm going to see, I'm very different today, carna. But, I'm going to recogher
Starting point is 01:20:53 my my my Hia at 10, 11 of the night
Starting point is 01:20:55 and I had to get a forceus very and I'm not a part
Starting point is 01:20:59 where you're in the area of the area of the area.
Starting point is 01:21:04 So, so, I had to see to me going to see
Starting point is 01:21:07 because perifer to the night and there's with a ram
Starting point is 01:21:12 or with a car or there there there and so
Starting point is 01:21:16 you do the opportunity to pick to p who
Starting point is 01:21:18 to me to be I Coucharola. That's that was my mentality then but this was it.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Because I'd like to go going to the rules, not the laws. It's because if you
Starting point is 01:21:32 have access of velocity, you know, you know, you see that you're just because it's because
Starting point is 01:21:38 it's going and the night, so, or if should have to have their fars
Starting point is 01:21:41 on to be to be so it's very very easy to be to be
Starting point is 01:21:45 and they and what did you a lot, I was that I had a I mean,
Starting point is 01:21:52 you know, you know, you know, I'm around the case, I'm not going to see that nobody me came to
Starting point is 01:21:57 see a my wife and the same, vice versa, to go to go to my house and the same
Starting point is 01:22:03 to give us. I always always, I always was very very good so much in that
Starting point is 01:22:09 so I'm, I'm a point in that I'm a time in the camera, the
Starting point is 01:22:14 a month, 15 days me mark the mom of my and me and me
Starting point is 01:22:18 said, ohie, you, you know, I'm going to I remember that I'm trying to be chamey
Starting point is 01:22:26 that day. If you got two people, me, me, they said, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:31 we made the coffee, so, then we're, we're going, we're going to get the car, and
Starting point is 01:22:37 she said, no, well, I mean, no, but I'm, no, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:22:40 me, he'd say, that, if you like, if you're, and you
Starting point is 01:22:46 do you, you're, you're, you're you're, I, I, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no no, no no, no, no
Starting point is 01:22:56 pass us. And she went, and she, oh, yeah, man, mandasst for the car. No, a-beer, wait, wait, wait, I peterre the, go to the telephone, way, there peter, go to the house of my, be to, what, what, is what, what you're doing, what, because for me, it was, like, we know, we know, so, where you know, way. So, you know, or
Starting point is 01:23:18 we know where your and to get to get to a point, or one of two, or it was
Starting point is 01:23:23 a person who were who was a lot of they used technology to do a rastreo
Starting point is 01:23:30 and know where it was where I was my daughter when she had the phone with the
Starting point is 01:23:36 mom of my my mother. So that that in some time to use a line
Starting point is 01:23:41 securities, well, I, I sent that that delire of persecution
Starting point is 01:23:44 because me was going, I'm first a car, me,
Starting point is 01:23:50 then they're to get a house of my and a minute after my my house, I'm hakeed
Starting point is 01:23:56 in the can't, all my did I'm every I'm doing I'm to do you know, there's three
Starting point is 01:24:03 videos in the page of one to one to one to and they're three redos
Starting point is 01:24:07 and it and those three rogos and they were in the other two
Starting point is 01:24:11 that were they were in rojo and they were they put in other other
Starting point is 01:24:15 other time in that's I'm a little time my 100 videos passed on
Starting point is 01:24:20 a little one moment to get that you enter in a maro in automatic the algorithm
Starting point is 01:24:26 to do it he's a mario or that you just a rojo you it's a
Starting point is 01:24:31 to recommend so my channel so my channel to have to have good
Starting point is 01:24:39 vistas in when when I start to be I'm I'm the
Starting point is 01:24:42 vistas, I said, I said, I'm I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm going to talk to the
Starting point is 01:24:48 support of YouTube and say, no, is we're doing that your channel is not, but is
Starting point is 01:24:52 that I'm doing this this is what I think this this is that this is that I'm, it's a
Starting point is 01:24:59 problem, that your videos, we're not we're not we're not we're not we're not
Starting point is 01:25:02 we're not we're not so that's that's that that's that you're so then then so
Starting point is 01:25:07 so, so then so, so, then you're who's censor. So,
Starting point is 01:25:11 yeah are three things that I'm going to I'm going to say,
Starting point is 01:25:15 yeah, and from where? Where's where? In what that's where?
Starting point is 01:25:23 Where, what, what, what, what, what? You know, you're
Starting point is 01:25:30 to talk fibres sensibly, way. Like, so, so, that,
Starting point is 01:25:34 in si, no me specifies, is what it has, but in si, what,
Starting point is 01:25:38 you, what, you have, you said, verga, we've had been
Starting point is 01:25:40 been it's my channel was July Augusto in 2020
Starting point is 01:25:47 in the 2020 I'm my channel when I do my
Starting point is 01:25:51 channel of YouTube there two there were that about this
Starting point is 01:25:55 them that one of that was em Rasso that was
Starting point is 01:25:58 the marina and other that was that was
Starting point is 01:26:01 the third creator of content in in create
Starting point is 01:26:06 or to get to this then, brother, no there's
Starting point is 01:26:10 there people. There people that he was a lot but no
Starting point is 01:26:14 there to get to get to this time. So, when I
Starting point is 01:26:19 am the third that I'm the first special that that
Starting point is 01:26:23 that about, of what was the how was the life of a
Starting point is 01:26:27 gaffe how we we did we our distram
Starting point is 01:26:30 to be there the operations to I had
Starting point is 01:26:33 I I was I Something, something like what today I don't see
Starting point is 01:26:40 if you've one of the one of the one of the one of a lot of so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 01:26:46 so I'm to let's a lot of information that the defense says no this this is a
Starting point is 01:26:50 not a not is a way if is to see it to be to be who is
Starting point is 01:26:55 who's who is the cab fulanito of a tal. And also the people that people that people who
Starting point is 01:27:11 had the intention of not they were not they're to end up to them to terminate to the defense national
Starting point is 01:27:19 because it was something new for them then who made you're remitio with the penegos that in that
Starting point is 01:27:26 moment we're because it's a first generation of creators that I was I was the third and
Starting point is 01:27:31 and then it's come a second one third and then tic-tick-tok and it's many videos
Starting point is 01:27:37 of militaries, of the Marines, they're in in vivo, they're doing, they're doing, but in that moment in the
Starting point is 01:27:44 2020, only were we're three guys about that content. Here is where it's where you're
Starting point is 01:27:49 that part. The the army is a fact that the media, because I
Starting point is 01:27:55 do this, because in the moment, we're making like the other services were
Starting point is 01:28:00 that not those we're not not subured photos uniformed because if you not
Starting point is 01:28:04 they'd restable in 15 days. So, there a whole taboo
Starting point is 01:28:08 in question of the media and CEDNA always is like what I
Starting point is 01:28:12 think it's the correct is how it's how it's a lot of their propaganda military
Starting point is 01:28:20 at the media traditional that TV Azteca etc but
Starting point is 01:28:26 but it does know that you know that's for me
Starting point is 01:28:28 for Carlos for the Gaffe the the he's not was
Starting point is 01:28:33 not a way to be not another form to to show to the
Starting point is 01:28:36 people that was the exercate Mexican. For there they're a like a idea
Starting point is 01:28:43 that is create a influencer of the secretary of the defense national that in
Starting point is 01:28:47 that's the project the soldier, Alexa Well, and she create
Starting point is 01:28:52 content of the the army, showing the all of the government.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But the the opposite of the O'Vena. Exactly. Exactly. The
Starting point is 01:29:00 car bonita the government. And how much recus no
Starting point is 01:29:04 destinas to to do this content that she genera or generate or generate a vintas
Starting point is 01:29:09 a billet and in the actuality they're they're they're because they're doing
Starting point is 01:29:15 because she didn't get out of the ex-oenix and they try they they're doing a
Starting point is 01:29:21 various influencers or create a various influencers and no pegs like
Starting point is 01:29:25 that was alexa well that they don't we're we're we're
Starting point is 01:29:29 we're what the are what is what is what is what is the attraction the
Starting point is 01:29:33 audience reclutamint, well, contract us more creators of content external,
Starting point is 01:29:40 that they can and us have done content. And we're not we know with money
Starting point is 01:29:45 or they let's make the access, depending on the sapo, the peddraga or you pay with
Starting point is 01:29:50 access or you pay with a money. But imagine at that moment, and in the
Starting point is 01:29:55 actuality that you Cedena you're you're not, you're to create
Starting point is 01:29:59 this content and to show the car or what is the the army, but not you're saying
Starting point is 01:30:04 all the corruption or the corruption that's happening, the corruption that is happening that violence of gender, that acoso, as a woman, so, no mustras what there. You say, there's equality, there's equality, there are women, there's in the army, there are two hundred women of forces specials, when in reality
Starting point is 01:30:23 no, you know, you're not even a one. So, it's happening this, no, there's a cause, when in reality, the woman suffers, suffer much much abuse interna, into the forces armadas. So you destina a resource to change
Starting point is 01:30:36 or care, before the people start to generate a, we call us Operation Panty,
Starting point is 01:30:42 something that just is for you you know, while you there's the there's a caradero
Starting point is 01:30:47 and it and it's a kind of and then it is a manh saying,
Starting point is 01:30:53 no, there's there's much violence to the woman, the cause they're
Starting point is 01:30:56 they're they're they're they're practically to that you being a soldier old
Starting point is 01:31:02 you know, you can say certain certain rights that in reality not those you're not, you're still
Starting point is 01:31:09 being a person, but you are you do you're you're saying that you you're you're
Starting point is 01:31:16 to a certain point, it's certain, because if you're you're
Starting point is 01:31:21 you're a little your back, you know, you know, you know, you're so they're
Starting point is 01:31:27 sobran days, you're so, you're able to that point in that you're
Starting point is 01:31:31 being processed and you're to a a carcel military and you pay you
Starting point is 01:31:35 10 or 15 years in a in a in a in a carcel military but you
Starting point is 01:31:39 say you I'm going to get my a second that's my man you
Starting point is 01:31:43 you're military until you get to until you I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:31:48 I'm I'm so omit or cancel to your
Starting point is 01:31:52 and you you're to give to give your so motives so
Starting point is 01:31:57 motivos so motivus so for imagine and they pass many things that the
Starting point is 01:32:02 woman, that the woman is, no, mamas, I'm, so they're they're
Starting point is 01:32:05 not even to get to get to the boat, and if no I'm that's, that violence
Starting point is 01:32:09 of gender, and that you destines as a puter of a billet and resources to show
Starting point is 01:32:15 a guy, and you say, the thing, the thing, you're, so you're, to get,
Starting point is 01:32:20 to generate or be a problem for the government. So, in some moment,
Starting point is 01:32:27 I was very, very this direct with the things that he said and that's what I
Starting point is 01:32:32 caused many many of the problem. So, for me the puttas comes from the
Starting point is 01:32:38 side of the government to the mania, because you know he doesn't work as you because you
Starting point is 01:32:43 the maja you can you can't, the mackas, the you're in the place, but not
Starting point is 01:32:49 they're in the car. They're they're taking and they tabliam as they're they're
Starting point is 01:32:53 they're they're they're done the navasas you're going to So, my Gaff, much
Starting point is 01:33:00 thanks, way. I'm going to cut it because we're to do more things. He's
Starting point is 01:33:05 he beho. But, but it's interesting. We're going to have a second part plebada.
Starting point is 01:33:10 If you want to second part with the Gaffe, then, and what would be
Starting point is 01:33:15 that would we'd that we would be we're we're we're very,
Starting point is 01:33:20 very objectives with the theme and we And we're doing things
Starting point is 01:33:25 way I'm at the way. Or the maybe you yeah, for,
Starting point is 01:33:30 for, for logic but yeah now I'm mean, no mams. All this
Starting point is 01:33:37 can pass in the political, in this, because it's all, we,
Starting point is 01:33:44 all we, so so they're who are to get the voice? No, quaker.
Starting point is 01:33:49 You're I'm, thank so, thank you. Thank you, very much thanks.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Thank you. Much, thanks thank you for being with us. The reds for the
Starting point is 01:33:55 social, for that the rest of having to get to this point, to have supported, we're doing this we're doing the for the socials.
Starting point is 01:34:03 It's the that the most number of the same people are the different social, you know, that's the
Starting point is 01:34:07 fake, but it's the number of people, thanks to your public and to you for the invitation.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Thank you. Thank you. God. God. God. God. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for present us your space also to be able to grab and leave in a comment a bit more chin to my compas. Salus for all,
Starting point is 01:34:25 benditions. Animo, a bit of the people in where? Where they want to put in. Tudy, a place. In the sin askinas,
Starting point is 01:34:32 boy, boy, cuck, oh, there's a lot of fierro. There's a father. Ah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:41 yeah, my, pap, andla. Me, I'm so, but me, I'm so much
Starting point is 01:34:45 so, well. I'm so.

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