LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - Gobierno no Agarra al Narco por qué no quiere (Policía Federal de Inteligencia) — Alias Pantera

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Gobierno no Agarra al Narco por qué no quiere (Policía Federal de Inteligencia) — Alias Pantera

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ask many of you, of us, of us of us and the of us.

What on my Papa? All well? Well, well, this matter right is

going to turn very, well, you know, for what chinggo I'm going to do you're going to

do with I'm going to be able to present to so that's a little what he does my

comp. Well, I'm, my compa. I'm, I'm a S.A. Ex-A

intelligence of the police federal. Yeah, I'm not I'm retired, but I'm working during

various years. How's years? I'm approximately of six eight

six to eight years sufficient for to know of all type of of the things

that are in what is in what is in capture in that but how you can't how initiates in

that mother it's very important to comment the people that for example much people have

been related or has been or has been the camin or federal is the

family my area no had nothing to have to have to be other areas. So there's

six or seven divisions. First were six and then every one, then every has a real experience

with one of one of the forces federales, that's those who are the many people,

they're not that they're not the purpose. To be come to here and to be

to be to say there not we're not all we're the system But also there are servicers

public's that not are. There are many workers of the cabinet that no is. I never never had a sonio to be a policeia. There were

there who had been in the port and all of that sort of that, no, I'm in this time I wanted to

call me my novi in that time me said that's car with me to be I made papers

in various lads. I made papers for central, for custodio and I made papers for

police federal. I've been the same time, the two, of the two sides of the same time, me said they were present to the city of Mexico, I went, I did the examines. There were some filotas there, like,

various quadras, all the redonded in reform. So, they were, like, five evaluations, five evaluations, and at the two, three days,

me called, that I had been that they presented on those days or a year, or a month, or something, in San Luis Potosi. So I,

like, initially I don't have the dream of being, I never had had a opportunity to decide, if it's not just a custodial, to work for custodial or for the police

federal. But as well, I've been said that you're going to be several months incerrable, since I'm saying, I'm saying,

so I'm a little more attention to the policeia federal. I imagined that I would go and be the guard, the Guard,

National, so no? I imagined that was going to do you're doing that they're a person who were a profile.

That's your profile did that for that? No, no, it's that there be answered occupied a license at a licensature.

So with a licensatur, you can't enter. Now, for the Federal not occupies a licensaturate, it's a preparatory. So I'm

so I'm a little more of, you're doing, you're doing a priority. Aha. In 2009, the government

federal with Felipe Calderon promulgulgul a law, where the policeia, it was a police federal

preventive. Recurras with Fox was a federal preventive, but not they're not they're

they're they're in 2009, with Felipe Calderon, now yeah could investigate a

delit. So, so it's a publicia federal, and there is where they're

to get a contract to a lot of people. The fact I'm understood that were more

more than a million of people for a for a to get to just about to get to

the 20 percent. No, I didn't I'm not to be with the selection,

to me me, they're there's in the course in Salis Potos that

was three months, here it's very important to know that

for federal of And we'd do we're doing three months. And we'd same level of the same level of the, the same range, for example, for example, for us to say it in a way. They used to be a lot more than a little. Because they had many years in institution,

durated three years studying. And we're in three months, we're going to the rank of them. The fact, no, they said the Maruchan to us. Because we were for peopleized instantaneous. So, no, they were some of the maruchan. But no, no, it was a certain rivalry. Then, all were the police officers federal. All we respected us,

we all. So I did the course, I went to the city of Mexico. Well, me, me assigned to an intelligence. I mean, I did count that I just went to and I made a lot of

into, I made into that we were two, three. But we were much of my generation, and just a few months were not as many questions. I don't, I don't know the parameters that they used, but there me took there.

When I came there, I came there, they're to, before to assigns an area, then they're

to send out to get in the time. They're going to to make the other than those first they were to be

those ferezos but not physically is efferos. There in an edificio that's called the bunker,

that's a building, that's a exclusively for intelligence. There was a place that's called

a center of control where was full of panties. J.5. I don't know if it's a

C4, what I said, but are so 5 where they're full of and there millions of cameras for all the country

there are there you could you know of all of every country of the state ah

a country did you of all the of the country of every of every of the

city of every especially the capital for example the cathedral

here the cated here has been the camera the city of here

the the city in the airport, also has a camera. The Basilica of Gualupe has made camera. So,

the work of intelligence, I'll talk about to be able to talk about, but for example, when there's a that the people

are in a manifestation, for example, there's people, there's people, not just of police, federal,

also, they're going to the marina, of the military, of the we know we're

not we we're doing what's what's going, no, no more, you've, you've

you've, you know, you've, you know, the movies that put in a microphone a ching-a

no, no, that's you know, and you're about, and you're about,

in all, that's, in all, in all, so you know, but how reports? Radio.

You do, do you, at the end of the day. So, is relevant, if it's

relevant, you immediately at the man, it's going, that's going to this.

Right? And so. The job intelligence are the zero-7, the James Bond.

So, just, just. Just, just. , Inclusion, Includes, Includes, it's a

person that that's a whole. In reality, it's all separate. For example, hackier a

telephoon, hackear a computer, is the job of the police scientific, is the division scientific.

Investigar is of the division of investigation. And the the equipment and the people, to hear

calls, is that is of intelligence. The purpose to separate all of those is that the police

federales and judiciales investigated all the case of the initial, at the end of the end. So, they're so they're

more to the corruption because they were doing that they're so they're so they're so they're

so they're for that's for that not they for example if I was a commission to me

not said about who I'm I'm going to ask the child I don't know

I don't know many people to look to to the many to many of many and we

know for who me, the commandant, the investigation, almost ever was one

of investigation to the command. They've trained his analysts, they're in his team of the

people, we've been in the command and we're going to the commando and we and we're basically

not we're not we're going to be a question and this question, and this question, he

has done, what you see in the series of the chapo, that that's the part

this of the president of the the police federal in that time of who

Calderon. Calderoni. Yeah, the, the... It's called Calderoni. Simon.

That, so, so, of what, that's the thing, the president of the

police federal and the capo and that says, no, I, I'm, I'm going to say

when there a, that they're going to to go to the forces for you,

to get to get to get to get to get to get to see. Yeah,

has passed. And apparently according the investigations periodistic so it was going to

the time. You're talking to the time of and Calderon and she called that he said

they're not quite, is what I've been told for the press, they're

there's there's a time of him, to the president of the republic, let's

in this time, were in the year probably probably was the So the United States of Gortari.

So the of the right of the government is the command of the government. In this case right is

Lopez Obrador. It's the chief supreme of the forces Armada. And if he says, van so they're

on so on the horny, van so on the hornie, van so you can't you can't be over you,

yeah, so I'm so he said. So I said they're they said, they're like, they're

going to go to be they're for him and go for him there's, you know

there's, there's, there's, so you know, so it can't be what you know,

what you know, for example, now with the general, we're a secretar or we're doing,

I'm trying, to try to record that we we're doing those of Sinola, and it's really,

I don't remember that we're going to end up the Cinaloah, no,

no, was so, okay. I, no, I think, I think, I think,

I think, I'm, I, I don't think that Garcia Luna has worked directly for those of here, right? No, I think I've worked. But, if, for example,

there are cargaments. That's so, you know, but if you say, there's so. There's cargamentos that are going to get to the city of Mexico, it's

so. You're talking to let them to get into, but I, I'm going to try to record if one of

we're going to in the time of General Garcia Luna, if we're to see what? And no I don't remember,

too? No, it was So, so, for that I'm because supposedly collaborator, and yeah,

no, so it's going to be able to do you, you know, I'm going to be able to be able to

get to be able to get to the chingada, metient of the ears, and all that. So, so I'm

that I'm sure, I'm to go to the sea, because for yeah, the more I'm probably,

I personally, I think, I'm actually they've done directly, because they can't have people,

like, like, and a person very eagerly, that, they go and they present with another

person who get to get the capo I'm don't think personally there's there's

there's that's supposed to police federal of the comminus that

he said new york and that he said he said he said when he went

in the carter he was that he was that he's that's something

that was that was he would have been that the mochomo the barb

the arthur that he he That was going to see, because we're going to see, because we're going to go to see, because

when I was going to be in person, never I've seen, never I've seen. Just you said, attention! And you'd be there. But no, I'd say, or never,

never did you pass, and nothing. But you're saying, and not you can't not enter, and not get to not from the building.

So, so for that Garcieluna one had had done to, he had to have said, to his subalterno,

to the subaltern, not want to nobody's that's a endent, no, no, no,

no, no, If I'm I'm so I'm and they're no, no, no,

no, there's to be there. There's to, I can't opinion, no, no,

no, not you're not to be to bebe so you. So, that's testimony,

I don't think that has been that's that way that they said, I think,

in the personal, that general Garceal Luna no has no has no,

no, to say, I'm sure, I decide, who, I decide who is the part of the

and they collaborated, but they no need a need of the secretaries robes much money. In many other forms. So, they're doing to deviant resources, they were. In this time, it was the plan Merida. It was a resource that

was in the United, a power of money. With Calderon, to us pay us the diaticos for the delantado. If you were you, you're going to be in theatical three months for

to go, and you're going to go. All right. With Peña Nieto, they'd have three, four, five, six, six months, to pay off the bioticos.

You'd have to get to get to commission? You have to To have to receive Narcos and sequestraders How you

What you see? What difference? Much difference Because the other I gave priority to the security And Peña Nieto No

And now I've understood That's the No, government is Peernerner and no balasos So,

let us leave us as free So I'm trying to I'm trying to record that We're

But I'm But I'm But he But he He said That's The Brio

But That's Here Here has passed a chingue of things and you're and,

for example, it's a little, it's a little, it's a thing that's to get it

to get them, or they're or they're to go to them, and they're to be it. You're

reason. It's that the discurso that present a, in this case,

the president of the republic, is a discurs for that you listen to their

people, but in the practice does it and in the practice but you're to explain

another thing. Is that there are groups of power. In the government, in the police, in the military, in the military, there are groups of power. Groups of power, it means that one's

protect a certain, others can protect other, others protect their interests personal. I don't know if, I'm explained to adequately. Groups of power is to say, how can say? Yes, because the interest of them is different to the other. For example, the secretary, of the defense national.

And there with him there are other people who are the same level, the rank but now he's the secretary. But those are powerful also too.

They can elective. They're powerful and they're in areas of the country. They're able to. So I'm so.

So, so, then all the government, there's power. And not all the does the end of the

president's all the president's all what the thing. I'm saying, I'm not I'm sure. Because,

what's, what's the loco has to be to be If, if I'm, stressed-sid-isim. I, for example, no, here in this

small company, well, we're in their area. I don't know I can't tell you know, because it's to report to different

parts, for I don't feel so attack and make a charge of many, because that mother you consume,

you, imagineate in that level. In that level, in those levels, is, resolve me. I don't want

a problem. I don't want to hear a problem. You don't care to question. How? How do you? The secretary is the same.

The secretary is the same. The secretary of security public, to think he said, to him and you know, he said. Yeah, no necessarily Calderon had to

get to know what, if, if he said, Calderon, he said, and General, he's doing something, and he said,

I'm saying this. No, he said, no, he's not going to not. And he he's not.

And he couldn't be doing other things. I don't think that's been completely but

in opportunities that they said, intercamble, information, you know, but it's very ambitious to that because I'm

going to deviant resources and those deviant the people of intelligence that were allowed in millions of dollars.

I was called in internet. $10,000 dollars. And it's about a million of euros. No,

no, no, they're in dollars, in euro. Entente, they're all, they're many things like,

with Peanietto. We're not we've seen a commission. A, two, three, me to, I went to

a commission to go to a year, and you pay them for Alentado with you were in the ginette about the

money, but the money yeah existia and the the the money

was the thingetia they were the money. The presuptuels in December they're

in September or the deputado so then you are still they're the

they're they're they're just a question of and now and now with

penenietto no we no reducer not the time the time of commission

it It would have been for example, for me, a month of commission, then they were back to 25 days, they claved. Five days of commission.

Those things were going to venters. At a moment, to buy an amendment, they're saying, that's so they're other levels, you know,

they don't have any necessity to venders. Because it has many ways of how to obtain resources to use, to deviant them.

of the fact it's a general Garcia Luna many people yeah I'm in the

record I've heard those heard of us that are that they're not going to do you know what he has

done but are the those are the clear that the question in the case

Garcia Luna not so not just not just about the not more of the

testives and the people and the people that to I'm I'm going to

I'm I'm I'm I'm say the I'm Yeah, I'm going to do. Yeah, I'm going to say,

innocent the man. I see, I know that's going to deviant the resources, even for campaigns, but not just he's he did, he's, it, all the parties. And all the years,

because it's a system. In the States United also, there's corruption. There's corruption in the DEA, in the CIA, in the government, the president of the United is corrupt. In all those,

there's corruption. If I'm, the only thing I'm going to say is that no, we're all the world, the people are the people, the people, the people, All the people we all the people

We all the people He's called here Narco-corrido Right that no No other They're gonna So you're gonna So you're gonna

To go to other city To other state To where you're From the Sinaloa Hey, Reyes-Lum Ray caro Because you

Thinks that That's a music So me understand So it's So it's not so Not all those We're all We're all

We're gonna Many Experiences With Federals of Caminos Etcett With Forces Federal Ores

or with the Guard of National, as a man, or not means that we're going to not really. There's people that are there with

people who are there. There's a people who there. Fidate, me I'm a chinggo

the attention this mother, because it's of a movie because. It's

of a I'm just you know, you standing in computer because so it was your

job? Yeah, it was the cabinet and operative. And, and,

and, a A-be, a check me in the camera that's that's a car, see it,

let's go, put the other camera, the verga. You know, is that in the movie

this of Rap and Furious is a an apparato of God, something,

that's that you your rostro, even you take your capuch, the lends,

you can know, know, to know to be that that way with that

thing, there's there, there's there in the real. I don't

know I'm could be I don't I know the equipment, I could

be able to be standing there in, in the area that was in the area, we're in, we're doings

schools to those, the schools, and they're in the cameras there, we can't see there

to get to the J.GL. When I go the bathroom, you see the little, then you're a quartet

like this, a little this, and this, he was, and the, I'd, see,

and I, and I'm, I'm, I'm, basically, there is, and it

delicious. But not you know it's because but you are the so

so it's a partito the visit conjugals and there's there's because we're

we're we're not we're not we're not we don't we're so if

you don't you did you the old plan first

there were images and not so we didn't

after after after after after after after we're

we we're not we we're we're we're that they were

what was happening. Right? Also, when there's when there's you know, that's when they're the

cubicles that you're at the cubicles, there's two computers, 20 of the other other side, 20, 20, 20,

so you get in the the field that you so you can't, listen to the cases, not they're not saying horny, no says horny, there,

did it, and say, other thing that has nothing to hear. You're the second I'm going to hearse and they're like telenovelas. I'm the telenovelas. I, at the other side, and I'd have sat down on other side and I'd have sat there to hear from

to hear what continued the history there. A one of a bit of a biter. Of all, you could you could get to? Politics, artists. I, um, I was I heard, I, I heard, when was it was, it was the campaign of Lopez-Obrador.

all the cabinet is called the cabinet the penianeto was called it's always it's used much for

questions political it's it's used for the job of the publicia federal but also

those things they're they're for enemies political all the politicians have

carpets of investigation all have been to keep they're for example

Lopez Obrador why not not a figure a figure a great of

the opposition because Lopez O'Rour has has been carpetitats to all one

he says, let's say, you know, the WIF, that is the unidad of the financial financial

you, you know, you know, and if we're going to get to get to the boat. Mejor.

Mejor. For that no, that's all in a little figure. No, so no

doesn't know because he's called, but they're not, because all. Lope Soororor also,

they're, they're all that's they're going to and it's, and it's going to be going to.

But how you imagine you imagine that's, you can't you go to, like in a car

a letter, Lopes, O'Rador, is, pap, pap, blah, or how? We know,

we're we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, a woman,

or so, a, woman, and you're redactando, ta, ta, ta,

so, so, so, hey, oh, oh, the other person, you know,

yeah not is a woman, it's horny. You're doing doing so. What you're listening to do you're

doing. So, then the, the cartel is a labelula, an example. I mean,

it's a more than a more called, that's that's a man, by that

right around, you know, that's the clave of water's is horny. So, so they're

going to goarding and this government, it's, they're all, the United

were the people were the FBI, that's how's it there's a there's a there's a

there's a he's the he's the he was the he was he was he was and he

got to chat, yeah, how's I don't remember the name no,

I don't remember the DiCaprio no, it's another this was another it's that was the

what they were the FBI well, total that they have all they have done of investigation

but not a carpet of investigation that a judge I'm I'm I prefer that they have

that they're there with information of them. Yes, for if they are in the guacal, the political.

That's the I was going to say, Wall Street. No, that's not the Lowe Street not.

Because that that, that's, they're all. Wall Street is another the movie.

The, the people that's maybe the people, we'll say, well, because we

keep them to reflect the pinch mind. Look, but more of them

I see in count what is my job where is my work? When I've seen the series of

the series? No. Figate that is that I'm sincerely, of characters that not be from Mexico

no, no, not me atrapan. Okay. Because one, one,

super-major is than one. Two, it's me makes that, like, like,

like, no, like, not, like, the information, me you know,

like, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's real. Inclus

the of the of the Chappo, Sinaloa, my city, Kuliacan,

me took to live two, three things that my Apai and that they took on

some some of some there, there's like the morbo. Ah,

that's if that's I'm let's see, and you're to be so, like two

three times me he's I'm to remember, more or more

more, what movement was there to see if it still going to continue

going to tell a interesting interesting chistosos result that we're not we're talking

on the lines we're doing we're doing so we're so there people there people there people

then we send information for all the country all the capitales the cities important

of the public federal I'm not just the police then you're in the line for And then those that

to talk about the area of Kulikang, say, no, the Sinaloa, the race said, no, that's the chafo! And you'll have the man and you're going to the supervisor. Look at what you're,

a year, until they said, no, it's that in in Sinaloa, to say, a chaparito, it's a chapo.

No, think that all, yeah, all you know, that's, he was the chafo. It was the, he was a man,

that was a priority, then the audio. But in reality they said, yeah, that chapo is, like say chaparito. No,

there, put, Yeah, imagine there's there there's there's

there's there's there's people and I'm imagine you have you have done

he's saying he's that's that's he's there there's

there you're saying you're saying the people that's the people that not of

the noroest but the people the chalangos was oh you're chafpo

it's relevant this and after they said they're there there

any chaparito they're saying chappo, well, so you know, that's that's in the car,

we know, we know, we know, we're doing in the tallyer yeah, yeah, get a year,

and he's, and he's, another chapit here, yeah, so, figgate, that at least,

fiatty, at the least, that's, that clave they, it's functioned for,

uh, uh, uh, to, uh, to the intelligence, that they're,

they're, they're gonna they're, they're, they're gonna use to use it with any other clave. But I know

what I'm all of us they're in, but you know, the reality, all the say they say

they're saying with the intelligence of the country, you know, the truth. The really,

not garrn someone, they're not they don't get them because they're not they're

I've said. You can't know, you know, they're not to know, we're going, we're not

we're not we're, we're if we're we're we're we're we're going to

go, Who are the amants? Who are the amateurs of those amants? All right. For example, tell me a case. That has been very... No, I don't know if,

to tell this, but it has to be here and I'm going to get in a problem. That's a man. That's a delicate. No, well, no, I don't know. It's that information

to be, no, me. I don't know, because... But how, or the the wife of him had a manned

no, look, it's that no, no, no, no, no,

no, they're they're they're like a like a couple of

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're so

one of one of one of they've got a muchach so they they were a and

this man he had a child but he said that was the she was

the to go to go to if he likes to you'll give a cellar because for this the young was a

man she was a good she was a man she was robustia no was a robustia no was a she said she was a robustia

like that she was so they they were and said well she she was she was talking

for a telephone to be a she was she was talking all the story she gave her

she was she goes to you'd be a cell phone cell phone cell phone cellar no he

he said What he wanted the madrota was that in some moment the woman, the man, no, he said, he doesn't. He was a virgin. She's getting a little. So what he said he did he

was in the page to put her to put her and then I'm going to the baguio and that's like to the virginity. But he liked the young. And he gave a cellulat.

He gave a cellul. And so he passed what he said, I mean, I'm in amovere, and so I'm good. How do you want to the chappo.

She said, she was a man of the chapo one and he said, and he said, but can't have you know, he's annailsa I said, no, I'm enrake nothing, I said,

I'm enamored to him, I said, I'm actually, he said, he said, yeah, he was going to

him and I'm that's information, you know, we're doing, we're doing, we. Well, no,

it's the story. Resulted that the young with him with him, and the and the woman,

as he was he was he was he was he had another galam for there,

no. So, a day, she was her. And he goes J.L with a flotone of people to the house of her.

And at that hour more or less they were in the little to be in the school. And she was thinking, no,

man, that no, that's, my, my cuneado was his brother, with the

family, and so, and I'm happy, and my papa, me, and my

father was, I was with a man, because this man, he's been he's been this man,

he's a little a little more they've got and he was going to my cuneos, my son-a and said,

no, I'm going to go to because I'm going to see a know that I had made to

because I mean they're like a virgin. Yes, so. With all respect,

is very important with all respect to the work of the work of the general

and all that. Because look, there, how many things not exist

in the world. That's to me impression because has said that

has said that people of the people of the politics can navigate

so. And you think you know, because you know, because you're not your money,

that's the time? Yes, the things. The money that's

what you're going to get to those pleasures? Another thing would that the

that the the little or the mucha not was that you know, that's

another pedd but, but but it said, oh yeah, I

last a little him was a story of a bato that had a isla, Hermes?

Jefferson, yeah. That had an island and that there were many artists and many politicians and the where where

he was where he was where he was an old. Einstein was a very ambitious was a manvich

was a manvichael was a gringo. He was he was he. So he

he, how he did he knew a one who was a woman who was a man

a mark so, was a good so what what he was to get a

thing, he was he was a very very prestigious he had a man and he

in the United is very important the image so he then he said, me going to

do you want to get a video so I'm so he did a money of dollars,

he said he's the company, so that's a car so this is a car he's a

good and those they were them, they'd take them, and they and they'd say, how do you like to do you?

No, that I'm just an plevito. I'm just like plevita. And I'm, yeah. And then they're all right. And then they're all right. And then they put it there and those they'd go to grab them, then. So then,

then, then, was, oh, yeah, I've got this material, too. Awah fresh. I'll say, I, let's say. I'm going to say, a lot. A lot of that's good.

That's a good. That's a good. But what, but what I'm going to get, er, er, w. No, the cagada. The, no, the, that's a bag.

vacill the trip orita. No, figgattie, panthera, alias panthera. That's perro the number. What's the

thing is that in intelligence and in the forces, no, in those of the group of official of operations, that were the

Boppes of anti-drogas, we know, we're not, we know we know we're not we're not we're

we're talking and as part of the system of confidentiality. So, various people me have

asked, that if why not didn't, I'm, I'm not I could have I I had to be

to be a separate because one I have to contract of confidentiality are many cases very delicate if you have you

know, I'm still having the right I'm now I'm a time, right I have a little bit more because if the

government is saying things that they're they're making a an carpet of investigation to all

the world they can invent a carpet and there there's there three many ways there's

one is for me of a investigation There's a person. There's a person A little bit a delit. They're

a second is flagrancy. That's the flagrancy agarate infragant or with the hand in the mass. And the

third is, for other reasons. Those are the two are the we're doing and we

don't we don't know that you're that's tattooed that you can't be assassins to be

so you're so that you're so you're magousous to you're manosos. Oh,

hey, no, it's magy, no, this is magous, My intuition me says that this is magyosso. What I'm going to do?

A kilo of You know, you know, they're doing? They're like, they're doing, they're saying. They can't

sembra. Because they're powerful. So, to me, if not they like what I'm doing the

government, they can't be able to say, no, this is he does it, and he's they're doing,

and they're not, you've seen one that's called Israel, Bayerta. It's one that's a

person who's a second years in in the more than the carcels and he's and he's the people and the people and they're

they're they're they were creating. He had a a a newbie that a

Francesca Cé Cé said she was a man who's a chiquito so he's so they're so why

because the second manner in that you can't in flagrant in flagrancia and never

they're never got to with the the judge he will he will to create a a

presumpto delinquent. So you're going to get to be in the carterra. You're going to a retem military, marina or FGR, what he's

he put, and he's grosser with him. Ah, very well, to look at his carl

and you don't see something? Look, he's that's detainable, and you

don't tryas nothing, because they're not not all they're doing, but if it's

a lot of past. Much. I've entered of various. Fidate, and we've

got a podcast with a person and a guy, and he, for to tryer a

car, deportive, not of the year, but it was like, 2016, I think,

a car, a black, of the video, and that they were and that

they were to get a fairia, but this boy, no, he didn't give to

give us and that they're some, a mother of that, of a more of

a kind of a or a casquillo, a ball, no I'm I'm not I'm a quote. Punta. Now, look, look,

the people don't know, the people don't ask you, they're going to make the the country, to be a part of

the army, because the military, they're not to do you know, to the people,

they're just if all do they do they do they're but they they were they were they were

they're not, they're not to have to have people. Your priority is dar us to do the idea

and the police federal no, police federal those have to present and they're to present

without for example also, I've said it's that they're some those pounteros

those are the those those men, the not they're not even

don't know they're they're not, they're not because the military

so they're just they're under those the guard national

when the time not not pertenska to the the army if they

have to report to where they they're in their time, if they're a certain time, without a

two, three hours without, without a person, can't get to get that immediately that the police

federal, is a police civil, in this case, Guard National, if it

does it, it would that you would be that you would be a guard national

being the the man, no, no, pure a verga.

Of, actually a little me said, that They'd have to make the Guard, Guardia National pertain to the Army.

It's not a cagadero. Because they don't know, well. It's not, I'm saying I, that if a person, the people is going to be up in arms. Why? Because they're going to do what they want to do you want?

That's why. Because they don't know to the people, they're going to count, to the government? Well, look, you're going to say one thing.

here in the streets has been a corried a rumor that have appeared

mortals with a with a little a radio and the and the

people say that are the people I'm I'm I'm

talking about stories that when they were in some in the time of Calderon

that was the war more more the war Right? We went

and we'd even have to the co-jillo that's the military is that they're that they're not that they're

no, no, me consta, and I think doesn't, because they don't have to give their account,

they don't they've got to their mind, and here, no, here you're to present

the people, if not they're living, when it's civil. It's for that I

think the strategy, no, the strategy today is that, One of soldiers, one of Guardia National. One of the soldiers and another of Guardia National.

Or another of federal. Or another, no, I mean, one of the state. But here have passed cases of, of that, of garrets, that terminan matting people, and the two are involved those two are involved. So, I'm, that the strategy is that those are going being with the soldiers

for that then they're that they're that they're that they're that they're a paper, yeah,

I know the strategy the world of the government federal, but not it's to be that

those disappeared for the type of training that they're they're they're

very different so the military not is prepared for a military is prepared

to revent in situations to get in situations of war not in situations policeial a

police very prepared is of proximity to see what is to see, to be in the movies, I've seen

in the United that a police guy know, he's a two, three mannogio oh,

how you're from the colony? Yeah, you know, the policeia, what on, but they're

they're they're gonna information. Oh, they're they're gonna, oh, you're gonna

no, no, no, no, didn't, me who we're, because we

we're we're, we're gonna, so, so, so, so the idea of the

of gendarmery was that of that proximity social, that is the Police Federal of the community,

that was to help to help the people to that's more communication between the government and

the society civil. Never, you've never, that's a look that I have been

there. I, from my point of there, as I'm the great majority

not were corrupts there. It was a minority, and for the people are

the people are those are the people are the operative of 30 person,

of 100 people, there's one to the man. And that's two people for the regular

there's, they're the they're not the manned. They're they're doing. They're not we're doing.

They're not they're doing. I'm not to get them and more. We're get them to get us

and the group of operations, that were the Boppes, we're not, we're not

asked, they're not they're not they're not they're the command, but you

they're they're they're just they're they're they're out in the perimiter. Hey.

Who is? To who we? No, they're doing. Because no we're filtered the information. The purpose

is that is that not they're, the information. No, no, no, they're doing,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is the

objective. We're not, we're doing, we're doing, so, to be the objective, but the strategy. Me interest to know the strategy, not for who they went. See, there's all to do with a denunce.

For example, I'll tell you one that garramos a a new, a chef's Zeta in Kretaro. There's, right? There's, uh, some, uh, restauranteros or the, of the, the circuses, received, they were, received, extortions, of menaces of a menaceista that I was and he

had a a hoja that he said, here this has, he has a place or has a duke. This place has a dueno, or something. This number they have to report to pay.

Sal Luis Potosy. And they've never had had been that problem of the extortion

of the pay of the piece no they've had been and they're and then then they

started. So, they're going to the policeia federal. In the police federal,

they're in the investigation, and then they're saying, okay, this is the

case, this is the case, they're doing to start, we're to investigate,

we're to investigate, what's responsible or presumptu responsible. So, what did the investigation? We've got an equipment of intelligence. We've got two, three equipes of intelligence. Because there are different apparatus

electronic, we've used. We've got to do. Now we're going to occupy those of intervention. That can be forces federals or group special of operations and antideotryogas. So, yeah. And they're investigating. They're not investigating, and those of intelligence

we're saying, in tal-cass-stan, in a tal-stang, in the carterer, They're in the Call on the call all this informant. It's all

disinformating. It's in the moment and we go to we're going to get the operative,

we're going to let's get us and we say we're in this house

they're they're they're those of operations and enter those we

know we know we're we're not we know those of the intelligence never

never yet never never to know the person and the investigation yes

you're so you're you're at charge of dar with him

our work with our with the objective for example to go another

example imagine imagine how your Hermes Elmiss Alias

Hermes Alias Hermes Alias Hermes imagine that alias Hermes is magy is your

prim is your your manno so we're we're doing an objective we're seeing an

objective and he's the telephone that we we're that we're that you to be

to If we know we know how is the Hermes, we're talking to take it. Equivocation. No, we're trying to take to you because we're doing an objective, me understand. But the investigations

are in to know how is Hermes, how photos of Hermes, me understand? They're so. My job is localize to the objective. Where do we're where she does, where's it, where

is where's their salida. The truth is that here in Mexico, So, you can't get a person because no you know to go to the bathroom.

I don't see if you know what you do the but all. That's almost that's the police a federal.

Now imagine the the army that's in the same work. The army, what is the

difference? The marina, well, obviously, are the people are in the

era in the in the buques, to defend the country for the

area the littoral of the marries, not? That's in the marina.

And the exerci all who are in the endro and then the enemy of the

country. And the policeia federal not is in the war, it's

in car in the country, but no that has nothing to do you with

with other country. The marina and the military and they're

they're against other they are a country and the

police federal is the Okay, but because in the the street you have more the men,

to the military? Look, there's a time, is that the marinos are not, are apparently

better prepared to a manner more different. For the the army, for the general, chango,

right? Entrach to any person. It's secondary, prepa, enter to for the

marina, no. The, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

process is more difficult. So, so there's a moment in the government of the United confiab more in the marina.

So those of the marina detenia detain to the maniosos. But also here, there are

power in the marina, there's power in the military, there's power in the police

federal. And all people, and they had the person. So, so,

Hornie, is the objective number one, they were they're doing, the

military, and they're to be who did the first with that person.

So when they were a capo pesed, for example, to have that he had fells, that was he

was a man, but also the police federal he was looking, and he was looking,

and he's the army, but also it's that you say, no, this is

to be to the general, he's a person, in those police federal,

detenia, he said, he, he was, they, they're going to present to

present to gendarmeria. Gendarmeria was a group that created that he created

to make a police federal in gendarmeria as Dope O'Rour converted to

a police federal in Guardia National. Peanietto wanted to be

a general but there had like no had the convocator

that they they were not took not the they're so they did

put put a general in a division of a

police federal We're six divisions And now gendarmeria was the seventh Gendarmeria was the same The Police Federal but little bit more than proximity social, they're in

So, they're in What, of what I've seen in the years of the presidents When it's a president and enter another They're changing

Why? There we have a problem Very grave in the country Because no they give continuity sexenal to the projects. All those want to destroy the past. Lopes

Obrador, with his fourth transformation, he wants to destroy all the institutions pasted, and that's a lot. Because the police federal, the security public of the country, we need to all. And no this, no, it's not, it's not, not he should be able to questions political. So,

what's he did, the regime in past, no, the police federal, is the symbol of Calderon, we have to put our own own, our own, which is Guard National. That's, it's a year, the is because no he does because he

has been a institution independent, autonomous, but it's because they they're using for the

questions and the publicies and ambition personal. In the United, there was

an operative because there had been many of an operation that one year, the May

of 2012 to May to 23, you know how many people got to do you

have three, three, 3,000 347 people in operative.

Incautarone of pastures of fentanyl, millions of dollars. It's an investigation well.

The problem in the police was far, the vices of there were, that some groups of investigation

were on the second form of to have to have to be to investigate. And at

a lot of some if they were more more easy, we don't we don't know

we're not here we're we're going to say that we're in carettera

and we I'd try a drug. It was easier. Resumied in the work that one was doing. In the States

United, no. In the United, they do you do they're doing doing drugs. But they're investigating.

And it's the moment when they got them a 1,000, 3,000 people at the same time.

We gothams one person and then we got to another operative, other person. No,

there were operations simultaneous. No, no operations simultaneous there.

No, they'd No, there was an operative so. It's one of the problems that I noticed there was was that

not you got around the filer of the corruption. You said, for example, the investigation were 10

people, and in that you'd go to the one of three. They'd in the other

seven. Yeah, they'd to change to another mission, for a one way,

another commission. And they were seven there and there was the thing,

that's the problem, because we do we Yeah, no more to reenna. A la Mexican.

One of the problems of the policea federal was that was that the police federal not was for corruption.

It was for questions political. That is the problem. For destruing every every

every that's a new set a secondio quita the verga because it was

with ministerial no with judicial passed now with federal passed with the AFI

the AFI all because Vergas, I always I always have asked, oh,

why these they're and they're and they're they're They're They're They're

But they're But what? I mean, what you that's you that's really the

mission to get them In Mexico is a country of Caudillo to

us to know, we're about, we're not we're not us called

that the bad or that's that's so, the so every every

president like in this country has an ambition of

historically be the best president. Yeah, no going to pass that that's to get to get to

them from the time. Well, the actual he's the president of

the story. I don't I'm but that ambition they have they're

they're they're doing the legado anterior for that the

more prominent. Yeah, like for part of the history. So,

yeah. Ah, is that Hermes Hermes Solis Spinoza did

a job very so Yeah, he's murga but defended

very well the country. We're to put it in a book. No, mames.

If you have some questions that's the people? Yes, see, I'm

more questions. I'm more questions. I'm more. I'm more. Fidate, me

it's that all this that's what I'm, no, as I know,

but what of the operatives is the that you have said,

no It's no, it's who's the structure, the segment, that you, this was too, it's too

it's too, he's too, he's, he's, he said. Look, I'm many, they're known, but

I remember one one, that was the tuit, the cavae Templarious. In that time,

this, was the family Michiacana, was very chema, the family Michanahana, was the

family Michan, very so, those were, those were the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the tuta. He, like they

they were their own their own cartel that were the caberos Templarious. In his

moment, those who were three- to the manned, they were the family and they

were the people, and they were those vicarers, that were the thirdos on the

man, well, we're to the the, the, the, the,

the, there, they were to be there was to be called him, because

and Calded that Calderon, Calderon was to make a

narco of his, of his state, and the cabarets temporary were of that state. So, then we've forced a man and tierra in all the other than the investigation, did you have to do the job that they were to do.

And then, for fin, they're a taqueria, compared a chorro, it was a birthday of the tuta. All that information, for that we have, it was a birthday,

and somebody was there to be there, hey, I think they're to buy a food, thinksen it. So,

So they were to all the, to all the, what I was up a certain hour, and so, observing, and they were in a taqueria compared a

choro of taco. A choro of tacos and refreshed, and they were to get a of this, and they went to the house where

they were. They went to the puttah. They had been to beckon so. So,

the investigations, the, the, those operatives can do do you do when it's adequately. When,

when they docketing adequately, when something. Because some commandants of investigation

not if they're flojus or that's the but it's not a question because for that they're not

a person to do something a good to investigate to do get to get this we're

all right they're not they're not they're not upon they're not

they're to get to not they're not up when they they're when they

they're violence violence Torture. No, it's a torture. If you're

a professional not to do that of that's to do you know, to do you? How would you?

How you think it? If you don't occupant if they they'll do it? You know,

he's investigated all. Ah, okay, not you don't you do you to say,

a bit, let me, what's going to go, go, go, go,

more for an objective, you know, you've been to three months, you know the carpet

investigation to present the judge. He went for these problems.

The judge says, if you say, yeah, you know, you know, you know,

and he's a problem, but what do you do they're not all they're doing, we're doing

a group of 30, 40, 50, 50, people, and a one or two of those

that you were to the mind, so he would do you to do

something against his rights um um so he's

to be to do this for for more information if

they were more money, I don't know what they're doing. A little no one

no us were we're not we're not never seen that we're never seen that we

know that we've seen that we're we've seen that we're we're doing this and we sometimes we

were it's a system what is corrupt not the not the person

it's a question so I so I'm so then you didn't you

no of my my opportunity to me I'm I'm I'm I'm

don't you didn't You don't have this opportunity. If we had to do you, the intelligence, we're the ones that were the ones that were the people were the ones that's why we're saying, we're saying,

in this case is ta. But if I, no, he said, in what case is that? No, they'd have gotten to, those of investigation, they'd, get them, revented, I suppose, and me did count that sometimes, they'd be by narcos that were decadenting and traitors in effective.

So, reventing them, we'd know, we'd know if there were money, no, because not my job, and we said, agarren what they

want to be and the first companyer, the first company that I'm saying, I'm going to say something,

we're going to get to get them to get them, we said, the of the intelligence, no, we

know, we know, I've seen, never had been a reventon, then he said,

he said, he's, he said, he said, no, we don't get us, because the

investigation are more than we're not than we we're not, we're two, they're so,

are 15. So if we're going to go to a group and there's a bolladoer, they're going to say those

of the intelligence to get us and we're going to get us and we're going to do that. So,

we're doing an arm in the street and at the initial. We're two,

we're two five hundred in my area. We're not we had been we're doing sequestrators

and narcotr and narcophicants without. We're we have to put behind the forces federal or the

gulfs that were in the time of Calderon. That was too was a lot intelligence we've got to people who

had to be the dollars and we don't have us arms to defend them to do. Even with a new

a mano there's not not, and they're not, and they're an armament that was a great,

a rift, a r15 and a quarter. And they're training, and all this. They're doing examines of

control and confidence to care two years, for the armament every year, you're doing in exam. For the portation

of arms. When I entered the equipment, I sent me to snudo, because you have to be

a power, for me. The money, the power, you can't put it. When I gave, I

think I'm unnerable. Yes. You know, you're done you're armed, because you had to go and

pass a lot, and you say, and pass something, you know, You know, you To do you To kill a

No, I mean No, I took to I took operative My job I insisted in that we're In other So, there's

Equipo We can't We can't We can't To talk to The other We can't What's

What's We're We're saying Let's go Let's go We're going to The intelligence's We're going to

The commandant For here For here For a For a For a car For a car I'm going to

Goe You were in one of of those Camonetas I'm I was listening that the Puntero is saying

this, he's going to go and we we're saying to the commandant we're saying we're going to go on this

side. No, we're going to go ahead. The commandant was a commandant was a commandant

we'd not, of a other, we're going to us and we don't go to see for this

side. No, no, doesn't make much explanations. The we're not

not, we were we we're talking, we're doing the equipment, we're going to go, we're going,

we're we're going, or we're We're going to go more for this other we're not

we're talking that they're going to we're going to go to this side. If not they're

not relevant, we're not saying nothing. Because the commandant to the

people to listen to not paniqueyars. They were in this work in focused. The

of intelligence we have to do that we're not create a cause there. We're not we're not

we're going to not to matter to get a emboskated in Tamolipas. That you were there? Ah, we had to do. I don't know if it waschicoleo.

Because for this, the commandant, no, he says, he says, when you're a camarader. And he says, a camarader. And they say,

come to tell something. But we're not that they filter the information. When we were an operative, we were like,

we were like, a centi of people, when I was, he was a man, he was that's a general, Garcia,

Luna, the he's the he's the director, and I'm in the car and me said, he said, bring them the

intelligence for there, and Ibuo passing. The Reynosa, Matamoros, is one hour of

the way. Like, like if were to where where I'm from a

way. Like a hour of a time. They were like four hours. Because the

those, the footeros were going to and they were there. So,

they were on the poncha yanta. All the way. There were a helicopter

and all a pass and all the four hours of the two

those the same the those were those who they were in the carmettas, they'd,

but you, no can't disviate. So, you do you have an objective, they're putting

travas, you know, the way that you're not going to go to them, because you're

with an objective. You know? Can be roband some car? They're not because they're

for an objective. Because it can be that they're to be given to your objective.

Oh, and about, for example, the the punteros is like security

of a narcoa? What city you have talked that has had taken

the best for so to say to for a for the desvien

of the objective of you see I'm here in in

Senalo but but I'm too Tamolipas and Michoacan

and in Tamolipas they were the most they're that they're

they're they said that they're they're they're they're they're they

they're just they're not we're But they said, hey, there they'll go to and they'll see what, and they'll, no-se-k-all-and-a-counter, and we say, we'll talk about,

but no more the way we said the commandant of the convoy, we'll, we're saying, oh, they're going to get them to get a 50. Or this, they're saying,

and so, but they're the most magyos of their people. What the past is that in Tamolipas is it's been divided, has to count

that in a one a little city, there are metros, there are golf, and there, are different cartels in a a city

small. So, there. It's a frontier, yeah. It's a frontter.

And there's what I heard of the I'm not I'm not I'm not I mean never

I'm in in the I'm okay. So yeah, I'm then the reality

of why not they're to get to get to someone what is?

I think it's because there there are there groups of power. For

example, I'm in another state X. So it's know that the

if those if one those, if one those, if one's, there's a government or the government, but for

the governor, it's to be a pass, to be a question, then it's true, there is a contuburno. Hey,

we're going to try, we're not to work, no, no, no, no, no. For the peace of us and

the state. For the peace of us. So, but we have the governor, the governor is more

powerful than a, The governors are more powerful. Because it's the society civil. And in each state, it's more people the good than the mal. So they're saying, look, we're going to do

for the state, but you have to understand that in a moment we're going to have people. And the narco-pessado, he says, well, no, it's, but for him, all is a challenge.

In this, I, I, I, I know, the reason to what he says, ah, no, if it's one that is one that's one that's Or Camilo, no, I

I don't remember. But the truth is that they're just they're justable. I mean, they're people, and in some moment they have to get a person, because he has to

do a job, to do you know, and they need to present a job. Well, we know to put it. No way to be in the law.

In the States is equal. In the States, the United, the police have been quotas. You have to try me at a month,

200, you know, that are the same time, and there are the police are looking. One of the policeis, in the street is 30 is 209

of June it's a final one day me and five boletas one of prostitutes that's

there's in the car so that's so of quotas two of quotas both of the transit policians

municipal have to get the traffic yeah for that is that here in

in Culeacan see when there there when there can't in the colonies to

the berg that are on not have plas and that devs and

that's that's in casco in the car and the shingas. It's that's work for

metas. In the States Americans are more the gringo are so so much

so much so they're to put quotas. It's the same that's the

same the those of the people. You have to present tantos

how they're they're when in the carter infractions tants

tracts so much they're they're they put they're they put in money

because the the real, the world is very good for How do you

do you do with the time? When I used in the time, the people to be

to be able to the person to do you know because it's because it is a month.

How do that the second? 9,000. At the 15th but you get them the 31%

of the ISR. So it comes getting getting like 6,500 but

you get them they're they're cut them they're They can't live

you have to be the end of the $4,000 to $1,000 a 15th. A

federal of a $4,000 to the $2,000 a year for arreggar

your life. I think the pointer more than you. Because is a

more structured the police in Mexico. It's supposed that you

pay a little more because you're paying a money. For

so the United not the money. Because the don't they don't they're

not they necessity. I don't know that we have the necessity. I mean, I know that we had to be the same when I'd get a house, when I cut out of the time, I'd have to rent in the city of Mexico. I'd have to get money to pay me to commission. But I don't even though I'd

and many of the company no's not they'd be vendied. Milles, millions, I'm talking to it was a minority to those who came to sell them to. No, the majority. It's like here in Sinaloa. All are, all are people? All right? All are people here? No.

It's a minority. So, the same in the corporations. In some corporations, if all, not all,

but a great majority is it could be able to be able to but other people not,

because not because not they're not. Feregated, here, there are questions

of the that the people. Dice, well, there's there's that there's that

maybe you're not going to ask, to all to them? Yes, well, what,

what, what is the the more of the police of intelligence with Calderon

the worst was not armed to be the people were the people didn't

defenders and they're they're you know you're you're you're you

know so the thing that's being being under being

under under being sent to me to me and

they're sent me they're they're they they were they were they were they were brought them, they

they were to give them to their families. We're not even looking who had those telephones because probably they were in co-dudied. And then I then I went, and I was in a serro, and I was had been valacied on that serro. Those have ballaciated the same of the cartel was, I don't know what,

I don't know, the other, and they were those, then they were to then they were to have to them to do. To them, they said, until that's the city of Mexico

me said, I'm going to see that this operative, and in the serrower no,

and they're with a cause of that you're that's that's that's that's

people, is that again, that's again, yeah, that's every year,

like, and then then the government federal actual, the the government

of the government of the people, he he was that

but basically was it said, it's it Every year, they're manifest to manifest for the day of

the 2 of October, the of the death of the October. So, I'm sure that in the 2 of October, or... Yes, yes, 2. October. So, they're they sequestran camions,

for not to pay their passage to the of the city of Mexico. They say, hey, you're going to get to get to that. They're not

they're going to go to the city of Mexico. And, then, the chauffeur, has to know that you're to be sequestered

for students. So, students students they're using the government to

make a government to make sure to the people who are they're in money those people

to do you do that's not they're not they're they're nine camions but one of them of them

they had a drug and they they didn't all the plaza they're they're

not I don't say to the people or the people hey

what on they they're there so there so there's

there there three Among all the students, there three chalachalos, that vendian drugita in the in the school,

that they'd get a lot of things that they did. So when when they got, I think those got those

those are, I don't know, and they were with the people, he was the he's a drug, but of

the other other, but of the other, then he made the information to the carter of the place, and so

they're trying to get to robes the investigated. All started and they those were they're like they're like they're

like they're like they're not going to get to get some notices. We're not those who were the

students. Vigat, what we did it. But it was in the moment that they were the

enemies, the contras for the people who were the people who are to have done to do that

and the really, so it was so it was so it so, so it was so much

Lope's Abraud, no, no, but are reasons political they're

they're they're they're they're the legado past it's that really

I'm I'm not that's much it's like in a sort of

stress of that oh and again again again and and

like I I go to enter in the sex and

go to go to give the I'm a

or something. And at the most in the 16th year I don't believe. Because it was when I was Peña Nieto?

Uh-huh. And then, you know, you know, I'm sorry people, I think the majority.

Yeah, no, had popularity. No, yeah, the net, no, they didn't, no,

no, no, but I don't know, but I when I remember that when I

went to the thing, at the thing, that the person was a much, not valia. I remember that in that

time my carnal was an electricist and no there was to work in a

law in the area carniceria. Oh, how you you're you're

to be for the verga? Yeah, I'm that I feel like see that I'm sure

honestly uh today today, before to get to get to

podcast I went to put to a to the My son, I,

well, because we we've just made one of this in mariscus and not it was because

it was for the cold, because the cold, not permitting that the people, so I'm

to ask me, and I'm what's the hale, how's the house, how's the thing?

And me said, I'm and the real, my speciality here,

well, my entry of the service, that's to do some cadenas, that mother,

not the vendor, he says, because he has reloges, has anemillo, has many things. I said, so for that's not, I'm going to keep having,

so I'm, I'm sorry, but I said, yesterday came a man, boy, and he said, this guy is, is a contractist,

and me said, no, man, who, that no, he, has no, he said, that's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

he, he, I think, well, I, I think, not is not

I'm because the net I have seen the not they're not being

not being well. For example the day of the Mathers always is a refue

a realfew a right. I think I'm I'm I'm but the

people to the day of the day of the mother to do that

that's perfect because what what does the government? How does the

government? The government in the government of the state no, it's a chulada

right a chule the president of the president of the publica

to say what they want that they want to say they're going to say what they're going to say,

no, we're going to say, no, we're going to not we're doing this what they're in the moment,

what they called the truth historical, that's the one of the other detail, no more,

but so it was, because they were the people, the PIN, of the maniosos

that were sending messages that were in the United and they're

they're not the messages and they were they're not they're they're

And as they said that's what I said basically it's a little bit maybe that I know know that's

but it's that they're saying that's that's the way to do give to do a different to say

I'm going to do you go to resolve something that's the thing is the economy

a chulat economy but the we're those we're we're we're trying to

get around the family we're we're not going to but in the discussion if it

does it government. And they say, no, if it's really in the economy. No, you'll

back back comp. And the net because the net of the commerce here in

Culiacan, the net Culeacan is a city I think that's

much the money for commerce because the narco invi in

commerce because the those the, how they're these

those, the of the camp. How do you call them? The agricultors inviverted

in the business and if the money is rolling and it's a and a

verga oh yeah not they're not being not they're for that they're

putting camions and they don't the minimum part of I know

so it's a so it's a and so he's just you're

not but you're places and all that's you know.

Oh, and so it seems like to be able to be able to be able to be able to very strong.

But I think that they're distributing a nonco-laboratorios like no there's, like no have been problems,

the lucive, of the money. It's that all this year. Yeah, no, he's going to

be to Lope and to and a verga. No, there will be a

movement. I don't know, how the form to operate, but really,

the narco just the narco, in other cities, too. At the more it's

different the form illicit to make a money than in Sinaloa. But, for example,

you're going to go to Guadahara, you go to Monterey and you know,

what problem is after that? What is the with the government to go

the country, I don't The Zeta, no trafficked them. You know what they're extortioned. Oh, okay. Cobra of the Piso, Cobra of Pissue. If here in Cinawob in Culeacan, no, he's cower, cobbro of Pissot,

no, it's, it does a cover of the Pissue. A quota, well, when they're, when they're going to be able to sell, they have to earn a money. And what it is, it's the co-borrow of the Pissue to the business. Well, thanks a God, still haven't done.

No, we hope we're going to do. Because, look, I feel I feel that yeah just a excemi

this and the woman this is that he got to get a cause

after this because this this is because this the I mean I mean

I I think when the Peanietto entered to the verga she

went yeah when the Fox fift fift that

he did he is like a little a little because

I know know said of people adult that

that's really very much the attention that's that's the people that were

people who don't, no, no, not they're not so they're all the

people who don't, and the really that did that the thing was in the

that the stability economic was yeah. Oh, it was a mad

a bad, a bhergal and all there. No, there was, no,

there was, not he compared to the day, because now there's a pinch

riffle more passed of verga and that the same government in

his mandos navigan a type of armament you're like you're a pinche

a and the time you're you're your and your carty and your cart and a

little bit of his rick and a but now that's a other pedo I'm what I'm

what I'm what's going to but in the economy is a back.

Here in in Sinaloa is seen in Kuliacan more. Why? Because,

I know I think I think the, I think the has been clavado. No,

he wants to get to that the thing, because much people say in the

case that did in the money with the fent with that that's

penadish and right and right and there's a lot people

don't see here in Sinaloa, or can't but what it's going to

other cities, they're doing and they're to get the cause to those of these

and for that all the of the I said, I'm, because that is in the

case, I'm we, we're, we're not others, and they're those fulano

and the manganos, and the perengano, and the pachasas where they're

they're doing, because when you are the you're the you're how is it in the ojo of the hurricane

not you don't they're they're doing and that's the problem because they're in the I feel like for the history of

Sinaloa many people they're that's South Carolina Sinola but really the problem

are in other parts yeah if you put to analyze well I know you're very intelligent

yeah yeah they're in other every every every agenda

under the agenda the cartel of here, we have your agenda, and even

it's a saying, that's doing to that's a lot of the authority competent to

investigate and pen to the gringo, it's to investigate and pen to that,

and all of this, and, and that that's, no, I'm what I'm

what I'm saying, but is that everyone has a person of what is the

thing that in this case, it's, it's, so, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, because has destroyed a narco-laboratorio and it was a much

flow of the financial the fentanylo so it's supposed, as a state narco that should

have more movement, but it no it's not, a despite that the whole the country,

not because the problems of those people, we know, we're just a whole the

country and not just just in this, no more there's not been not been

not many because there was there was a there economy, it's

the market the market traffic. Now, as I'm doing much narco

laboratorious, the race, better to do you know. You, for who

voted? You, for who's you know, I'm consider a person of the

right. I'm more what the governor call conservatives. No,

I don't, I don't do any partio, but I am more the side of

the panism, for for for example? Fox and Calderon.

No, not are figures that I, that for me, me represent a 100, but I'm more on that

side. No, I'm on the side of the right. And the is PRD. Yes,

is that the right, it's more organized. With Calderon, with Foxy Calderon, the things

are better organized than with the PRI and that with the government actual. For that I, for my

experience of my life, I'm more of the the right. Oh, and you, that's you, that's

in the government, in an area very important, after the government, who is to to decide?

The, for example, is the government or the president? Let's say, let's,

let's, the president. The president is the more powerful of the country, but he pertains to, all the world is,

the world, is the government, he's, a bloke, that's the North America,

and that's in a so that's Mexico, the United and Canada is the bloke most

important of the world economically about. So the President of the Republic

no, no, the President of the United, but in a certain manner,

if he's does a place, because he is the leader moral,

not official, moral, of this bloke economic, that is the most important

in the world. has to have an accord in a certain form to that a quarter moral it's evident that we're going to

to get to the United and that he's a certain way there's a certain many there's decisions that there's decisions that

not you're saying but they're saying hey calmsing with this so I'm in the

fact you in the United tap is critical the thing is said and the

net also for for the the of things. It's that is that it's a

way, it's a how is that and there's, how, the people who who vans the pharmaceuticals, the medicine

are gringos who are that they are in the candidature for example the matanzas that are in

the United of arms the matanzas not they have been controlled because those who

vending armament they are a candidate a senator president of the

president of the country there there there pardon the the in

the in the internet national electoral not the here those

candidates, not receive money of other people, they need to have to be

not just getting to do you, uh, in the US can't don't know

who's so they're so that who are who can't, the people, the people, the

of the ones of Walmart, to the people, they're people, so people,

people people who much of money that's the candidatures of them.

For that they've put the arms in, for so they can control

this, so They sell arms in Walmart, imagine you, you're going to to buy them to buy them. A man.

There's there. In Walmart they're a lot of people who can't have an arsenal in

their house. The people can be armed in the street. You see the people who are armed

in the and you think, no, well, you're a police, no,

it's a other, many, many, many are you are not, they're not they're

in a carcel, you're not to be a person, you're there's a people who can't be in the I saw a little,

that said, we went to see a in the finikera and was a in a cabinetta, a man with a blindado, how's called

a pechera? A beckera. And I've a peccara blinded. And we're trying to the arm in the finikera. This is

of a cartel. They're not a cartel. They're not to buy arms and they can't try in the car. In some

the states, Arizona, teja. Yeah, the, the, the, the,

a substance that's that's a lot of the thing is look at the thing is the thing is the

United is very different to the American. There you can't go to the school,

and what they're in the people who don't have people. There are there are people who

they call the famous or not? The people people are people, the deportists I'm

I've asked a people to be sobrino. If it's it's true that's

so they're so they're so there there's there are there are people

And they're thinking, me treated one mal. And imagine that you was with a problem mental still

to be in a person. And if me don't me want, and those are the people are the

people who want to get to the history that's remember his name. How

is going to remember your name? Well, they're doing a matanzas every

one they're to make them. For what's what's what

they're Awah Fres my Pantera Alias Pantera there

There you go, a questionita. Preguntale if never he has done the best of the fundillo,

you know, see? Yes. Yes. So, I recommend. 100%. 100.

For the but with the time you know, you know, you know, it's not it's a

no, it's not some some things private that, but

you're doing your partner, it's doing, then you then you then, then you

accustomed to the body is that a sensation you know you have to do you don't know but you

have a you're a sensibility you think you think yeah you're like you're

well you're so you're I'm I'm done I'm I'm that's all of

all so things private but oh I'm I'm done

I'm did you do water fresh says here there

a question. D. D. D. D. D. No, not are you. Why?

I imagine that they're in a question. They say, they're going to say, no, not so they're that they're

that they're that they and they're not that you know that you know you know that's like the

of the of all the and this and here no it's says here what has been the

got a got a not got rid of a never got rid of a more never got rid of a more but I'm a couple of

that I'm that I'm that I'm not about whatever. Netta, net, let's do it

never me took so so you you're so you're so you're because you because the

really is one one one one comes with if you

you have certain values you've got certain values and

for example you're casted recently cased-cathed and you present to the woman,

and has been the woman, and you're a plebizia and you're going to say, no. Because you

have been so the values. So, so it I went to and I made with the

values, and I'm the only, we're not, we're not. That's all right, yeah,

I'm going to believe. I'm, I'm, I'm, the opportunity with more mandos,

then in some occasion, it may that they've been done, but, but as you know,

when I went for someone. No, they'd not have to give him. You can't

give us he'd get to get him when he got around the two times. He was he was

he was a million of dollars. And what was the time? The time they got around federales,

yeah? No, Monce. That's not you. No, I'm not there.

Ah, no, if I was I was in policea federal I was when they got around in Michoakan

so me in Michocan, when we were in the news that they were

that you have in this mother of combating the narco and all the irregular

in where it's the there's that has been that has been that's other country,

pardon, but don't, but don't but don't Panamaipas you know to know you're

that's in Afghanistan yeah oh it's a thing really yeah no it's

can't live, no see how how many there there there

there there there every there there a thing

been feas. Passed for Mier, for the places and were in the public,

municipios little, like a morritio so the people had there's I don't

know how is the area, but it's another country there's the

big bonitas and there's a place that's Baghdak fickett

Baghdad like that Baghdad back back back back back was beautiful

black no no there no because there because there

there is that is fractural in the country, look, look at he was he

he contracted, he got the military, no, the gaffes, the gaffes. So,

monot got it. So, they were their guard personal. When he he gotrars,

they were independentized and formed their own their own their own drug, they were

they were to start to the people, when they began to get to the

stuff, because it was the priority of the government destroyed to

the did it were they were the Zetas, what they were to sell franchisias. They'd vendian

franchisias. So, then they fragmented for the country, and many people so independizzo, and so they created many

cellulas. So in Tamau, and there's many cells, many cells. Many cells. So, they're playing

for a colony for colonia, those are these two colonies are of us they're not to other, they're in

other two colonies. Like the Cholos in their time, how you know, But at a casso, but narco.

Dice here, why not the capuch? No, I've been in operatives

of security national. Apart, because I don't keep me to get me because

I sometimes I say, very, very, very, very, comprometoders.

So, so I would put in a risk to my family. I, when I

went to the operatives not had to mask because my philosophy was

that the people were that they're to be in the other not I'm because I know

I'm in the way, let's the thing they're to condes to us but now this government

no me to be the security that I can't go and that I can't

be able and that that's put to that's put to that is

certain is the the mission more difficult that

you took to do. It's been various, but I remember one in that we're looking a chef-Zeta, precisely in San Lupotosi, and we did we, we did with him in Kierreth, that no, we'll call, no, we'll call. If we're just, we're going, no-seye three months, or a month,

no-ligev, no-la-l, no-lough. Until that we took, for another person, that was a little difficult. Also, when we're in New York, there's been a lot of people. And, um, and other is that,

My work really consisted in that not us, not us, this, not us, not us, my work consisted. My work,

for that was, that's been done it was, was to be in the confrontations. And that's in my time. So,

that's, that's, it's a, because if you had had been many incidents, it means that I didn't,

it's been my time, my job, my if I'm so, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, my The work consists of a convoy, no we have to

distractorne, that we don't not we're not we're in front. Because we're going to an objective. Oh, yeah, how was that the case that was that? You went to, and you're battling for a guy more, but did you with one and that's he

put? Yeah, look, the investigation, what they are doing is, they're on a person. In this case, as well, they're exoccurcinging one of those discothecas. So, he has to have a number of telephone. We're going to go to that number of telephone. To that number of telephone,

we investigate everything, and all of the cellars, and so it's a savana of the three to five numbers that more can communicate. So, now only only is

an objective that we try them, but other three people more, for example, we've been for Hermes, how's called

Hermes? Hermes. Erme, right? Oh, and he, we're doing that we're doing for him, but he

he's communicates with more people, but specifically three. And between those, is the horny. And I don't go to go with him. Why me go to go? Now, we're going to go to. Because that's not going to. Because that's not so when they're, when

got around the chap in Masatlan, it was an agarrowed for another person, not for him. That was an assistant, no, I know, an assistant, no, he was that he was the, he was the, he was the According in the series it's all the because

for the for the of his something that's but he's the but it's not it

no it's it could be so it for communicars to be to explain the the government

has identificant your voice so so I'm I'm I'm looking with

I'm looking to look to Hormi and I have when you do you

do you do you do you go to say the team is this is the

even. Although me modifices the voice. And you change this telephone you.

You will be to register. So, you'll be this telephone to other. And the

system, this is the, the man. No, there's a way of that

the rassan. It's doesn't the way. The government

no doesn't get a person, the sombrero, it's because it's been there's a

There are powers, me the end up the military put in the world and do you're looking but the military isn't no, the Guard National, no.

The Guard to go ahead and they're looking to but they're not and they are not. One of the

one who they're one who protectes and other's that is a person yeah very major, no?

You think that even he's that even to come to get to the government?

Yes, more than of the United. Ah, but that's verga for the

image that go and that, ah, that the the United, the road,

a, you know, Mexico. Yeah, to Mexico. Yeah, as well, the president

care that has been been parted and so that's sure that the president actual,

he said a rata to say, a rata to because never said that they know,

that they don't get, in this case, the president of the republic and the government

of the United have a have been similar, the government of the government

of the government of the people, receive migrants in Mexico. Mexico is a a country for the United

want to get a residence to the Americanos. But I'm sure that the Obrador, the government

he said to the United let us do you know, but to us let us let us say what we're

what we're to our people, to our people, for that Lopez Obrador, to say what I'm because I was I'm going to

give us not they're not a centa money to give us Mexico, no Peeeeee No, I don't, no, I don't, no, I'm

sure that I've been asked. Let me say what I want, and say what I want. It's the discourse to my people, to my votante. And so that both know what is the reality? The reality of so. Awah, fresh.

My father. Yeah, you're going to say, Mets. Ponte verga, loco, that's going to be for you, to the verga. Dice, he, says, well, not intelligent,

because he's a trage horrible. the fact that I don't The fact is that The other thing The thing is So I'm put it But let's

The guy Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm When I was When I was When I was When I was I'm still

I'm still I'm upreted But for Why does You know? Oh, Well, Well,

Well, So, So, For the Rasa Comment, You know You know,

You know, That's different. That's different. That's different. For that To be To be reason.

You have a reason. He said, how many years you have? I've been less of 50,

more than 30. I mean, I'll, how was well, Erman, how do you do?

And one's 40, one's about more less. Dice here,

if if, if, if, if, if, if, if,

An anecdote, this is I'm formulating a a, a basis of all the questions, no, an anecdote

that you, that you, was the most impressionant that me took to know, what would be, I'm,

when we were we're doing the other, as we said, in the bunker, it was in the M. So,

and then you were the lines there were you there were there were on, we were,

we're, we're, we're we're, we're The majority is it is supposed that they've been

to be a order of a judge but I know that they're still people who people who

people have been to have been to their people who's those enemies political those

have been those those enemies actuales so I heard I I've heard a much

I I heard I've I'm I'm I'm I'm secretaries

senators but I'm one in special that a more he's my

might give the time attention here I I heard to the

jeff of jeffes, you know, who's the chief of jeffes? The series. The series. Ah, Miguel. Miguel.

Miguel. Angel. Miguel, Gailardo? Michael, Gailardo. He was talking with his abogado.

Me took to write to say, his abogada in that time, there. In that time, he was one of the Beltran, of the Tijuana,

Aerellino, Felix. There's one there. Then the abogator he said, oh, he's here the

abogado of the Arayano, no I'm the name the name who's the he said

he's not he's not they're not they're and the man who the abogated and the

he's a sobrino no, he's the city of the people, he's the person.

So he's he's he had a story of he's always he was to be a time in the

carse but he he doesn't he doesn't he he doesn't receive visit to

he or no Racko no RETo he let him then So he had to to talk and desogar

with his abogas with his abrogh so he he told when he knew a Paul Escobar he told when he

he was with his husband to and he he was he gave him maras to his wife

also he said I don't remember but he told that he was Arabia Saudi,

that he was he was with a prince he was he gave him he gave him a year

one of the year he was not so it's not so he was time he could take or not but that

with all and other other other things of security national that I can say

but there had a market's artists women there there are politicians

there are people who men with men yeah apart of the

women and women have women have and that you know

you know you know but I'm so you're so you don't say

no did not do no man well my alias the Panther,

something more that you want to be a question, no, just I'm just that I'm just that

that's not, in the institution were corrupt and then, this is impossible because the majority, or a grand

part, were in the government, but they were in the they were in the people,

they were there, he's a little, he's a millionaire, I, so I,

so I don't respond for him, I respond for what I'm to me. It's the

most you respond for you, you, you, you respond for you,

So what I To live to live to me is that The majority We're more corrupted That other people If there were That in some Occasion we

We did not even We did not But there are To hear you You're going to You're to Beardercer That's basically

Those of the Forces Federales are Those of Federals of Camino are others Are other responsibilities

And if they They're In some So it means That means that I'm That means that I'm That's what

I want That's what that's what you can't the people. That's the way in the police you know, that's what you're doing, there's a job, how it's there's a job of the government, the inversion that can't do

to do you, to put it in serious. This government not so take in zero the security. And the other ones they were taken adequately in serious. What the most so it was was Fox and Calderon, a little, then,

it was virtu-s, But, but I have the hope the of that in some

occasion if there's a person that's that not disulva

with other sexenio but that continue for the good of the people

for the people of the people to be the of the

the police federal other the the when when I

said the the mind that I'm said I'm said

yeah for other side. Lamentia I mean, so I don't not rexaria.

Because I didn't know. Because you didn't know. I mean in the time of Peanieto and they started

to go to get to many of the case, because they were to show, they were to show,

so when you're doing to get a back, and they said, when I'm doing this they're in

the polygraph, you know, you know, the doctor, the truth, the truth, so, then the doctor,

they're, then, they're, They asked, a Well, you did some act of corruption? And he said, no, no, I did not. Then I was, oh, if I did,

oh, see? No, I saw, oh, I, and then, and then, and then they were they were they said,

because I don't confi to see you so I'm going to go to say, I'm going to go to because it was that

they were doing a for a while so I said, you're going to you're going to you're going to a year without a pay. So a year

without a abogado for you know, not you can't get to be to the publicia federal,

and the way to get us in because you get us in the problem after. what's the name? it's called when they're deserted, no, the deserts.

So, that's true. Ponte verga, loco, because it's going to be a verga the

thing. Right, more redicate to the media social and my app. That's where is where

is the nene orita. Weiss, me have been told. Oye, platical the project

that you try it for you know, I've been years, I'd share some

I'm on the experiences that I did in the police federal as ex-agent

of intelligence and for fin in my media my social I'm

a alias Pantera or Alias Pantaer official in Instagram, in Facebook, and in YouTube. I've got a few followers because I'm going to

start with one or two a few months. So, I'm going to talk to some experiences. But, however, I want to do a podcast of ex-companeros that my own experiences. For example, I've got a friend of

a friend who I'm going to interviewer, that he was still the day of guard when he was offed by the ex-of-o-us-Mand-the-plano. He was-tub, and he entered

for the... The tunnel. For the tunnel. Yeah, I'm there. I'm going to be there. Yeah, for you. Yeah, for you, if you're going to,

if you're going to do, I'm going to do, too. To go and puttap, but, but I'm going to what's the thing, what's the way, look.

You're asking for the of the right? Yes, the regogyn. Very very.

Well, well, you know, well, you know, much great, Berman.

Oh, much thank you. Thank you. You're a whole mother, you're like, no,

no, no, change, because the, the, the one, they say, that's,

right, Erme? I'm what I think you have to be a truch, boy, because you

have to be to be to be intelligent. Agua fresh. Let me, well,

this was all, this was all with our friend Alias the Panta see-

in your social the project that is a project that see, and she's

telling things real. And if no, desmient it in the comments,

because you what you know, they're so you know, and then there's

a chingas. A- -h- Let's go. Let's do. You're do, better.

All right.