LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - Marino Activo le da Detalles al Horny de enfretamientos a la Maña y mas secretos bélicos

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Marino Activo le da Detalles al Horny de enfretamientos a la Maña y mas secretos bélicos

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get to. O'clock. How he did for being marino, comp? Fiasse,

it's a story, I don't a bit more about, I never never was to the

case, I know, I know, I know, I know that was that I was the

I was the I was that I wanted to work in a hospital. I'm

I'm I'm I'm doing for that side and I got

a call a convocator by the medicine in the prepa still

and I'm to investigate and I got the roo, me got the realo for the

school always always yeah and I'm put to investigate

the net I'm put to and I know the qualifications

that the school no no that's the opportunity to

for some those know who were the people who started I'm gladed it and we're

to get us to get and we're we're doing and we're doing so on how it

how it how it how it the job I'm really, I'm

a lot I'm a chingo the job me, it's yeah

it's something is something good you have many many

experiences good, many experiences But are things that not quite to the lot of the

people, there are many people not quite that's the not quite a not all this work.

why do you know, that's not the people don't know, and then to do do you know, it's complete the orderness, no. You know, of a

of a place to go to to go to get to get to because there's new where you're where you're

there's you're in what you can't, at 10 hours the net not you don't come

at the hours that's at the time and so it's a lot of many

more new that are on there don't because it's complicated

they're thinking they're they're they're they're because they're they're they're

they're well you Yeah, you know, they're they're but the net

not is easy. I imagine that I'm that I said, to be in a

place where you know you can do not to eat to eat good,

what you want to get, left, love, compa, cagart, ban,

all that, not any, he's not quite to be supposed to to support.

I, get to be going to doing wist to boxer of a person,

because no there's nothing. I'm to come to work to

do you do a and I'm like a and I'm don't know that's true.

Tell me one of you know to do do you do to work in a

last a few years back we're we're we're we're

we're an operative with the people that are those are those

are There are some of the fosas clandestine. We're to inspectional. We're and localized the place. The people of the

police was to work but as were a quite a and it was open, the fosa,

well, you're not you're not you can't move, until they're all the people.

Until they're in the last one and then you're you're you're

not we were prepared. We thought that we thought we were something that was something that was a little

rapid and it was it was there were many people we're going to we're going to

we're going to we could have we could get us we're going in the in the the

earth that we we're putting a leonet because it was it was doing free

and as we as we we can't we we can't we we're

some some, there's people there's people people we're going to

we're doing, it's depending on the people that's the time that you have to keep

the people are doing those care, pass those time, they're going to

get to a ruckus and they're and we get a and we're rotating

constantly and see that that that that that busca me

passed something and for imprudent it was regando. Ah, yeah.

We're there were in a place where there was some people civil

that were families that were people who were familiar of them and they're

trying to the net one of a lot with the mountain with with

the team all the day I did one of the the fiscalia

oh, Oh, why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? And, you know, to give us to Grier? And he went to the morris. And he was

going to be doing just no more. Pazoo a rotho. And I heard that the sir

started to learn by the telephone. In a different. And I called much the attention.

And I asked that where they were and where they were, and where they were, and where

was the people to come to Greece to look some family of them

that They were living there and they're a little bit of a

little bit of a little bit of those them are there's there's there's

in the fosas but imprudent one they said. Besteia compa

how concluded the commentio of you did you did you see that

I'm to put toper people there less in the mountain

there was they're they're not so they were

a yeah a a a or? It was a not so

to the Sierra, but it's it's still a little that's a lot of that's

that's a way to get to run between vered and so how

how how how it's to say here in this this

there there there a fos clandistina how did

with there the those the the rastreid have

groups. And, I asked I know, how was it they had that they had information of more

or less where they were and they're so much. So, to them get the message and

report them, because they they're not they're not have to report to the authorities correspondents

and you yeah, he's a part of report, and it has been to be

to the security, and personnel of us others. Feece just no more

that is what was of family is disappeared that I imagine they're

years. A a person in disappear how time time time

time. So that they they're they're in a fos

there there exists the body and the whole

there there there a form to not there's there depending the technique that uses

in the people that they're that's that's a person but a really

vary much for the questions of the climate the place in the place in the type

of the type of decomposition of the body but always the

those are to get so always you're you're you're you

you're you're you you're you're you're you're you

has to vary much the state climatic and the conditions in the there's there. There's a

tip that I know when they're in the prepa it's but

I'm think I don't I'm sure if that's that there

there there there can not that's that is?

Or if all all can do do do do

there there there there there the the hair

and the ujas. Well, really the myth is that you're still growing

and that's not that's not that's not, but the body is hydrat and simulah

the fact that's the fact the the but really not it. But if

there's a form of that all disappear da? Well, depending to the

techniques that use. For example, that you know, a technique of what

they use these people are? Well, some things that's very mental

that's that's that's that's that's so that they disintegrate

not of all because there's not, that fragments of the wets,

that the braines, but always there's so always, always.

It's correct. But, but for to give, for example, this question me,

me, I've made, because I've seen many many And,

a ladron, for example, a ladron, he gets a bank

and does the rob. And no he can no a rastro no,

because he uses things here, I mean, like, like, like,

things to get, that's that's that form a 100 in not to

not to not a rastro or if they do,

the technique or the way in that they intend to do do it. But really

no exists the crime perfect. No exists. There's always there

is a an air of how there to get a thing. Really, the

other person or the other group of people thought that you didn't

to do with them. Feree see it, I'm made, I'm a story

very good, see that. Let's let's We're going to to talk about what's

no, we're to, we're going to what is. It's correct. We're not

to see cities, we're going to say the city because the person that's

a person that's, you know, I'm, too, I'm, in a row of course, and, and, and, and, and, and, Part of our functions is to salvage the integrity of the people of the population civil, so, it's a part of the parable to make a call of attention and verify that's all in order. At the moment of parrarn us, well, it's a lot of there with the person.

There were two chasches, up of a vehicle. We're talking there, they put repotent, one of them got the telephone, and he made a call out of the call. I was interviewing one of

of them the other I don't know. When the other morrow, I said, I'm going to talk to

you know, and I'm the phone. But who said? No, my father, me said,

okay, correct. I'm the telephone, and, so, well, and who I'm

, he's, and I'm and I'm saying, can't say, I'm saying,

no? Yeah, caron. Sultem those plebes. If not you go to la verga. Oh, my, dear. And I'm going to be,

wait a little. To be able to be to be able to be like. I don't know any what I, I know who's you know what I'm doing what.

Look, I just say, let me those plebe if you don't want to to make, you're going to

make, I'm a badas. For that for that, well, you know, well,

you, no, one, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, one, no, no, no,

for any person. For nobody more than than that, no? So, so I'm to say, because I know the

if it's a lot, then I'm the car, no? And, and say, look, not you

don't you know, I don't know who is, but if I'm a little bit of all.

Dimm' where's there, and we put them a tirole. But a a I'll see a frontment.

Andy, be a topon, if they're an hand, do you know, me said, I know never I'd

get to find out. We're going and I'm going to do you. I'm going to the person that came to the commando

and he said what you said, you know, I'm doing this, I'm doing. So part of my function

was to communicate to the to come to the man, no? I said, we go,

we're doing we're doing we're doing, we're we're going to get to make, me,

How do you want to get me? You're trying, I'm in charge of that. I'll go to the two chaschos that in the vehicle. In the same vehicle that came in there. And it's

the talk of that they're going to get to get to the person with the I'm going to know, because,

me got on the place. Without without. Without so, like, so how I

did I get, I, I'm, I subed to the commuette that came on you, and me

subbed mannaging. Then I said to the other patrols that were in there.

I'm going to go to go to get in front, I'm going to get to when you're when you're

when you're and you get to then I'm to get to get to never you never said

they're in their own car. They're in a fiesta, they're in a ranch. The truth is

was still was still I'm I'm I'm I'm a barro, one of the

muchches and so he's to And I cut a cartouch and engano the people to go into. And he's, he whewel, the chingas. There was, I think, I think, out of the festival of,

some 15 people armed. All right. In fact, I was there. I was going to go ahead and caonado. When the people that came to me, when I was going to, and all they were to come to me. And all right-and-carcouches,

for the action, well, we had to contend a, no. Yeah, man. There had to enter to. If you're retorting, let's see, sure, that you're trying to,

So, out of a man a man a man and he's oh, no,

that's all good, that's all we're in a little bit, oh, I'm saying,

that's the topony, to be, to be a thing, I'm going to see, that's

so I'm going to I'm going, I want the person that I know the person who

me come in and it's me up here and we go to see what that's not,

oh, but that's but that you can, I'm I'm to here,

until that he's or I'm to get to him. I'm

not I'm met with because there's I'm and I'm always

have respected the time of the man, he's a man, so much I'm

I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm I'm

I'm he said, I'm saying, me, we're going to be I'm doing

a ferexing, but still I'm not I'm he said, no he's

the trade of this your yeah. No can say how

more less? The net me I'm offered like

$10,000 dollars was the offerter that was the fact, and it

was totally rejected and me and I'm like, I'm going to

talk nothing, no, you know, I'm don't know I'm going to

ask that, I'm if you want to call, you know, I'm going to

call, you're And he'll gole the callada and in when he quake the call to

get a man, so a matter so much so you're so what's

you know? No, we can do you know, but see orders that are that the

truth well, you know, but not go to the principles of one

no, but but also also also also can't

be the so we know we can pass and

then more valeno to make the the order to

complete the order because the end to the point of the question.

You have had had been done if you're that I'm

you're so you is the that's the that's that you had had

done there if had had followed the or

me have said arrest or to let us to let's

you have to go back if if you had

done what should have that's that that that's

that that that it's difficult yeah completely for the

simple reason that's if it was a person and you know

that you know that all and the relations are the are the you

putter between the spade and the thing that the

insecurity in all the world exists and exist

and the corporatives to the people, because it's not we

don't know we're not going to do you know, but in China, all they're

correct. But why collaborate for money or for relation? There's

many interests by the way, yeah, talking of all type.

Like what interest you you that is the most

interesting the that the people want. The money.

The economy. You know, that's the money is the This this question

I'm that's it's it's it's he's it's we're

we're we're we're what we can't what it what has been

what has been the that have cuted you have some

a member of a cartel or a corporation and

also also the government also there the chisd

that the marina he quits a state or to do things that are operating

what has been what have been what have cuted so yeah decomisos

so that has that that has been that has been that it's

there's there's there's there armament tonelas of cocaine

and tonelaz of crystal one one of marijuana also,

that's in common to be the amount of that they're that's that they're that's

but I have talked, me took a few years for back.

And, that the form in the way that they're in the

vatons, go to a vehicle that's the that's the front is the

is the that's the that's the that's the thing, that's that capture

we've we've another to one to a point to

another. And in the translade, we we're doing the two vehicles that's in the

carreterterer and there had been a place, we were to buy to buy to we know what

we're we're we're in the we're in the we're a chabal to a

other carmennett and it and it's and it's over the ventas and

what we did we we puts we're we're on the on the on the

window, out of the the film to tiram. And we over there is to do you

do the persecution a first of a lot of the

morros the first the first they they were some

they got some they were on a break

and to get and the only we was

a arm large was a a arm and

one of the vehicles that we was the He regressed to the place where we're going to stay.

And it was that we found a carmonella. Of perico? No, of marijuana. No, that's not that the pure chauffeur. All accommodated, the part of the,

the video in front, you know, that's the angle, no? Also, all met him. So, you know, accommodito.

No. No. No. More than the car. He was a car. So, so he was a tonalade. A tonal of a

200, a tonalade of, I think I remember more or less of that decoice

I'm I'm going to say because we're doing. In this time valia

valia well yeah well well yeah well yeah it's a

many years to be back uh I'm I'm about more about

cost or not because when when there's the there in fiscal

there's an approximate of the value total of the cargament

So I don't record exactly the number, but if I had a value, more or less, that was a, it was a, it was a good, like, more or less or less.

No, I don't know, for the, I don't know exactly the number. In reality, if he has talked a mission, I was complicated,

complicated, that, that, that, I'm fresh, I'm, and it's, I've talked,

but I'm, but I'm going to talk to one where they're to be, a bit, So, it's

an I don't, regularly usually that we're doing that we're patruing and the people

like, they're panique and they're paniqueen and to give them to be what to know

to know what's to be what's to be a child who was

he was the detention was one of the one of the pointer called the alcones

no I know the know the So, it's the attention, that person put to other people, and it's all the proceedings to do the cateo.

It was the night, it was in the night, yeah. We'd go to enter, it was, it was, we'd to enter to the people, that we had to do that, there was a armament. We'd go to the people, at the moment that we had to enter the people, there was a vehicle, the people of

we're going to go ahead of the pass. We're going to the bushrer of the commons. We're going to go ahead. We're going to be. We're going to be there. We're going to be there. We're going to be there. We're going to the energy electric of the house. And there was a So, so it put a security at the part in front of the house

and it is a increase for the passio to read completely. At the

moment to enter, I went to front. I was at the window

that was there was a part in the other in the other to the

that I'm to come to the door on the the window, the

middle the window, the window and he went to me, and he a lusa. And from

there's there's there's there's there's there's when I'm the time

I'm rastered on the other side. Yeah, I'm when I went to

I've been detenio the menaces, no, they've been neutralized.

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm up, the person that came with us thought

that they've been put down. And, and, and, and, they're

nothing the person killed and so the and it's

a tattoo really not was a decomisco as a

very great because it was a tiradero and and

there was a arm a with that was

with that was to see the net I

see I did see so to see there

in the there in they're not a one one of a

one yeah, like, obviously the person's was at the pendent no,

from what was what was around and so he was he was he said

the more or less or so the way we went and we

was we're waiting but unfortunately the people with

we've reacted well we did so neutralized the

menace and all the the the the the training

of a marino that's there's a different between those of the state

the ministerial those municipal those soldiers also that's there's because in

in a in a science how is if in science certain the

people say that the marina is better better than that

the so because it's a because it does we we're

we're we're we're we're we're And he said the chingada. When my first, when I recently

I got a, I mean, I'm going to a state for where I know. And being there, so it's

the course, it would be a proximo of three months. And, and we're there's a training with

personnel of the marina Mexican, that are people who are people who are

that are very prepared and there are things that the personnel of the

United to give to instruments, academies, and they're a preparation a

good, because, we know, that's that's the side, there's more technology, there

more advance, so they're they're they're they're and we do this

and we're similar. If the the the questions that they're they're

correct. Even even to even the uniforms, the uniforms that we are very

similar. It's the same material. It's the same quality. And the bottles are the same,

and they're a logo in the part of the tailon, for the part of the

United, and we're we're trying the logo of the local of the government. But it's

quality of quite good, but it's the same they're relatively we're the same armament.

the same team tactical, and all the role. Really, if there's much

a difference a training of a soldier and a marino? Look, this is

I'm going to to work with a person with the general of the the

exercipio, and the deistraming of them is totally different. They're they're very

different to us there. There are things that me me were

that for they're they're not and there's things that they're

that they do they are in what? For example, the descent of

a vehicle in the moment of an embuscade we we're we're we're established

of the form that that's to be to the how

you're to move in where you're to you're to And I've

to work with them and they do you do not they're so much

times me of the that's not, no, that's not. It's not and for

past this and this and this and you know, me me explain the in the

way they're and for me it's less sure. So, so we're we're just

we're always we're always to keep the integrity of our and the people that the

people that secure and not to play with the armament and that because

there's for me there's for me for example I've said of the

cases if you want to take water, no, there's there's

there there stories and there cases no that

that so so I'm two years it has

a personal of the state of the stateal I think

they were in in in in in in movement in

in various patruias and one of he had to try a mini empotado

and he's he hallo no I no me I remember

so he heed or heed people of the

patruia that I went to you what you to

say of view? Well, it's a lack of a question,

the net. Well, we always have to care of their personal and

always have to be to that the armament that the means,

we know, we we're the moment of the vehicle,

before to get to a vehicle, it's made to

security to to verify that that the armament is

in conditions apt, that you not you don't is necessary.

You see that vehicle, and depending what you do you do you, you know, you know,

you know, you're going to to get a place, to get to the base, they're to make a

security. Why? Because, because you're going to you're going to get to get to

and you're not going to the same. The, the, the, for example, I go,

I'm, I'm the patrol of the marina. to you to be to be to be

to be back in the cajah I'm two or three and in the cabin two or three

or four no because you have that they're they're they're to be

four a caro a bandalism two three camions there is the

the form of you and if those people are they're to be they're

they're they're they're tell me the two. If they're they're what is the role

that they're to do you and how, what positions and if if not they're they're

what they're what they're to do? Well, in a case that they're neutralizing the

aggression regularly the person that's that's the minute as you the minimi

as you the person that has the person that has to be to be to be to

the around, because it It's more vision than all. The person that's sitting down to the person who goes to sit down more than the front,

no. The person that goes to the moment of to discer the aggression, does the person that came

sent out, so, it's, the vehicle and it's the manoebara to go to and be

to come over. Regularly, because the real, I'll explain more, no, no,

I can't say exactly how is the So, it's to do the people and it's a way

that you're covering, that there's that's that's covering, because independently

that you try you a clack or you're not they're not, they're there's

always there's there's there's and there's the fire until

that you don't you're not you're not you're so then so

you're the repire or depending no if there people

that that you have they're rinded and the attention

and the protocol necessary. It's that the person that comes

that is all all the and if had done a person,

then the attention medical. If no, there's very rarion, no,

the is very rare, that no there's not a person as a

if you top people people because not they're not

for the simple I so, for the simple that that

you're that that you're soldiers statals, municipalities, maybe not there,

but I'm sure that the 100 if it's marina, if they're they're for fear

or because you're more prepared? Regularly it's that when we're seeing when we're

a aggression actually, they're not for care to make to make, simply because they're

they're not to be you, I'm so I'm, and so it's well, obviously, if if there's

a person does it, it's a second, to do you to do the attention. But it's very rare,

the truth, that, that, I don't have a no, the, is a blindada,

or is normal always? In some cases, there are vehicles blinded. Why they're going

to use a blindada? Or, so, what case it has to because there I'm,

I'm saying, you're not are not they're if, if they are

to someone? And how they're to say, in this day we're going to

get a way? Well, no there's a day but for example

if there's an operative great in which you know there's there

is a that there is a risk latent that exists in no,

so they use vehicles blinded for security of all

security personal and but regularly are vehicles that not have

blundage. They're cars normal. And then you have to look to how to

protect. No, not they're not not they're in a door of the carmen

to? Oh, so, that's the movie, a that's

a light, if you know, a ball to perfor the door.

What you can cover a little more is the part of the

motor and the part of the the part of the the is what to put

to cover a little more. From there to go over to the other than I'm so imagine

also the carolette I think they're going to try in park that's what I'm

to ask you're so that for an entreatment of those and to throw a

ball to or have to know how how's they're because

they're they're they're more, I mean to more to be a much

volume Well, always we'll try to use to have to be

a different we're doing we're we're we're so we're doing the

those those things trying to not to not to not

to do do to do for to do we're we're

we sure we're sure they they're they manage

well in the net us they're in the lot So,

the parres controlled, that's the number, that are two different? Or?

Why? Why? and two different? For questions of the human? The use of

the force, and, the, the truth, us have been in a lot, for that. No,

they're to say, ah, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, if you're

that's, in the same example, no you can to you can't just a rafaga to one

just to distribute those ballasos for the quantity of people that are so they

do they do do you that regularly we usually we use to neutralize that is

to disoadir the volume of the volume of so so so it's

for the same that's the same the one the one in the the river with the

Raffa, those are automatic are for that. For that the personnel that comes sent out of

the vehicle and that's the time, the one of the last is the he's the last to be

the vehicle. It's the order. It's correct. It's the part of the protocol or not of the

form of to work. Because he has, he has, he has a volume of a carthew.

So, if he's going to do you're the other side, those people who are not going to put the peaches,

they're going to to be able to cover us. Yes. It's the part that they say, Cubremes, let me,

and you take to chance that you do it as well. It's the time. The part of the right

is the that you do the margin to you do you get, you're doing, you're doing, you're getting

all positioned he's down, he's back he's, and he he's covered part of the retowarder,

that is the part of the part of the person that's the person who He goes first, it

covers for in front. And the that's back, and the back to

cover the person to do the person who's that's repeliening the aggression

to front. Yes, if you have your chiste, no they're in

the, the adiastram more difficult that you took to you, what was,

and why? Well, I think, and I think that the initial, the

Because one comes to the life civil and the enter to a institution

military is totally a change very radical are things that one never have lived

or things that one know so if one is rebel or is viz

and you get in discipline and you have to get to what you do you

do you do that I do you know there are there hierarchy and there there

there but but you what you that you you're what I expected that

I'm a man I put you do you do you and the really

was something was a complicated about the adapt to more

than yeah yeah the adaptation to the the

the and well difficult as in the course you

do an a basic no of how descend

of a helicopter of how so repel and

for example, the descents of an helicopter for so a rocket is a one of a little

Tattoo in rages, if it's a altitude, more or a amount, or you're a fracture,

as minimum, then, and, well, the role that, that's, they're

in the madugat, you're to be to be to be in the styras,

and all to be up up, and do you, do you, you know, you know, you know,

you're, you're doing so, and the, and the And there they're trying. As they regularly, in the courses,

you get around five or six instructors. So they're going turning and you get one every certain time. Well,

they're still dorming. But they're and they're to try it. And it's to get to your routine

at the next at the next at the same of the morning. You're you're you're to change,

you're not to get a to carry. You're so you're exercise, cardio, that's a road.

condescensionment physical, you get, you, you know, and then you'll get to

the routine, no, depending on the what he marca, the semester in the course,

the course as I, I'll that's the more difficult, not the adaptation, because...

Disciplina, 100, no? He has been done two, three, four,

without, don't, um, so, two days, two days and medium. Because

they're rot, you know, but there's there's a way, but there's occasions in that's the occasion,

what would be there? That would be there would be an operative for, for,

for the capture of someone. Very great. Yeah, depending the person

for the that you're for the example, if no says, no, don't say

no, but some characteristic and the people go to to

follow to your you, in what operative participated and to who got around, more or less in that day? Well, no,

but, there's no, man, as well, there's there that, but if there were people there, in the, in the, in, in California,

me took an operative grand, and if it was, if it was, something, if it was, something,

I don't not only got the attention for factors external. No, it was a operation but there was a very

that we're that we're some of time circulating 24 or 7 it was that all the patruan, I'd

get a little a rottet two, three hours, and to go to the back, those of the they're not in the overrecy or

no. I did some of the mother, the paper, the back, and if they're there's a rancorcied. But as

a man, no, no, no, no, no, they can't do,

totally, no characteristics, or not. If no, no, no, no,

I'm worried. Uh, a see, how I'm, I'll explain. Let's, I'm,

it's not nothing, and we continue with another question. Let's to give what I

can pass? We're all the people, we know that's no

no problem there's there of the cas there to the back to

the that's of the officer of that I'm took

a I took also a operative in Sonora

that also we're we're a point to get

a person important of that of the world, no? Of the world,

also, there there's been in the other. I think the last most important, I think that's for the

back in Sonora, it's where I know. In Sonora us took those a moment of terror.

Why? Because? Because we're on this senior that I'm and cated,

and tratee, recoup, recopoe, information to to do with the parader of the person.

We took a day that we went to a day that we're on the operation,

it's the detention of a person in a vehicle that I live in a vehicle

so that then you know, you know, I'm I'm going to say who is the

chief and I'm going to say where but if they're they're they're

correct. Well, we're going we're we're we've seen we've we've

He was going on the net, two alertes because we saw if we're four. But, but obviously

they were to go to us. In what we went on the way, we're in the front of four

carmenettes. Four vehicles and he's the morrow, those are, there's the chief. We're

we're going to we're going to go back to go, the net without the netto be about about

20 minutes to them. in car simon so we're in the vehicles of

the of the vehicles civil not so does the persecution on

the persecution was a a was a it was for the people when

we were on us we're we're we're we're we're

like a camelette like she went we we're we

we're we're we're we we're we We're looking at a person that's

a lot of the road of the road of the carmina. We're going to give us to the persecution. They're

to get the way, they're and they're embanked into a malice and they're

to start and to repel the aggression to all. The person that that that was that was

that was that was that was a man, a a man, a

I had 13 or 14 years, more or more than. A cat. Well, when we used to get them to get them, was the camenet of them, the carmetted of them, the road to do. Atropelian, but... Yeah, yeah.

And really, it was dread, because I think it was with the intention to say that we were that we're not... Distraer them. Yeah, it's correct. And, well, if it's something very because it's a man, is a man of an innocent,

they're not, but not they're not, but no, they're not in a culpe. So, so, the entrentment and they're

a poe and two helicopters, and the personnel of the the the

general, the policeia people, we did we did we and to what we're

they're they're six more but they were to turn to the moment,

just we're to make the attention of them and a arsenal a Grandes, they're...

What, what they had? What they'd? Well, the arms common is of Quirnos of Chivots, R-15. 50s? 50.

No, they'd but they'd one minimi. Granadas? Granadas trailed to 40, that I don't know where they

didn't know how they'd have putt but we found them for the tub of the answer of the armada the lance of

the answerpapa? The lanceapap is known colloquially So it's the detention of They're just They're Two mortals

Over to the vehicles So it's The attention It's set up Atest of Disposition And When we went

To go to Back back Me said One of you When we We got We're To get to the

The Cicelia Let me I'm going to The head The same The other And I said

I don't I'm I'm Fereager Preet me My Telephone Me

He said the telephone and he said a call and he contested on the other side. What's what I'm

saying, we're atoched we're not there not they're not there and they

said the chief of you know and the people no there's there's

there there's there there I'm we're we're we're

we're but for the questions of time that's the It was a little

to get a way to get a of them. They're going to they're going. It's the job of them to go to

go to the way of their way. So, yeah, you're to do this person, then they've been to be

the fallacyment of the young and the armament and the aggression. Yeah, the aggression.

Well, pass to that. The day the next there was a persecution, no, there was a

attack, the person were to go to the day, we're doing patriading about there

me on the operative. De front we we found we were two ram-blankas. When

us were we had to one, it was a rivered a canal. So, we know

we're to talk to force, so, yeah, but... No, they were

to be to be a way, and they didn't don't they were, so

they they're doing so they're on the carrizzan a carrizzan and they're

repel the aggression and the other vehicle is retorn and we're

we're we're we're we're not we're not we're

not because the vehicle that they had got that was

an gamet so it was we're we're we we're there

way to to tumbar and that's very pesada. Yeah, it's a very pesable

apart that was a ponched and it was a thing, pass to that's

that we're we're in we're trying one of the the person of that

and we know, and we know, I don't know, but they said in what

supertiv is a abo, retorned to the back to the bestia

compa well well the people sure has to be imagine

what could have been going to have been in the comments what are in what they're

why they're because they did it was the operative let's go they're they're

they're they're they're yeah we're we're in the and there

no I remember something something something something there and I

know so I'm a president a question we're a recognition

because we're doing results. It was a area that was a lot of so we're

doing much results and we're doing the environment in the city and passed a thing I

that's that's all over that's so I don't talk because we said we

were to get the flotter and so there's for the things of security

of all water water fresh delicate You're a cahy, my Papa.

It's difficult. Me, I'm trying to look at the duder my chink, I'm sure that all the people are

that you're not saying pendejo and you don't see a pendejo questionle I'm just

I'm going to continue, no? There's another question good. What are of certain

that you're that you have a parato to turn to tumbling

to It's very certain. There's a personal specialized for a You're not?

No, it's a capacity that's a type of people, you know, they're

to do you do they're in Mexico or the United? Dentro of Mexico. Much of

many times, there's personnel of the United. If there are courses of that you can't

be a world, not more of the United. in any that's

in a marina you can to be to send a bus a

capacity but but about that about it's in Mexico

and it's very difficult to have the things or

is something so it's technology is is it's is

to give a bit to let's it is correct.

That's correct. That's what is in cities too, or only in rancheries?

In certain zones of the city also it's it's to avoid, for example,

if there's some operative, to that the people that are that you

can be and can be able to put to podium and to be to be

to try for for example, they they're that in

the the year past, the 5thenero, much people, you know, that no

most participes the forces armadas. Why? For what? Why, why the force armadas?

Well, for the type of of the type of the armament that we bring us

totally different. It's supposed to Mexico is a country pacifista, no?

But, but, there's a garr internal. And we are capacitos to

the war and, well, it's part of the functioning.

But you have liked to participate there? Well, what's what I

could say, I'm I said, I'm, I'm said, for the experience

that I'm there's there's various guys, I'm took to participate

and if they and they took some impact about it. I'm took,

I'm the planet I'm very close to have participated but at end of

the end of required. I was retired and it was required and it took

support of other places more more and no and

so we The war more, no, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the state, with more, with more danger in Mexico, in Mexico, what is, to your experience? Well, it's, it's a lot, no. Baja California, is a city where, day and night, they're tired. It's very, it's very, the part of Sonora, too. No, in all

I think in all the other I'm in all the actually to work in Sonora

when I'm was a cataloged as a city most of the city

of Mexico so for you that is or there is it could be

could be I think one of the most dangerous for the questions that

that's that you comment no that was that

was it was was a city more a more

a more to be to there participate in operatives there.

The part fiat that you don't want to take water? No,

to be the thing this of being marino gompa how

you do you do your normal to your work because

this question you are standing frank as like

you don't that is that is there and that's, and those

rogers, in the street, you can be taught situations. If, if,

for example, ah, I'm going to an manro and he knows a muchach,

and there, he said, the man that, obviously, that's a woman, but he's

he, he, he, he, he's fulano, or if he's, he's,

he's, he's he's, he's, he's, he, fulano, look,

he, he's, he how is that it's that compa how is the function

for you know I know there's there are much there to be to work

to do you know how it okay you know you know even if maybe

can be that the much it's to get a and know all the

movement how how it so okay I know in this moment

an example in this moment and I'm and I'm or so,

you and here's my chamba? Or if really is a power of to be able to

do you? I'll talk about like I'm like Charno I'm, I'm like I'm a

double-vida. I'm a job of the job and I'm totally. In the area where I live

is a secret to voices. Much people don't know really in what I

know because out of the chamber that I'm going to two, three

things, and regularly for the people are the people, it's the people, but I'm

to ask, to what I do I'm I'm doing or something, I'm always I'm other thing,

so I'm so it's for what the people know, and they know, and they,

the part of my other job, not they know they're but if you're

to get and I present to a person, I'm to try like any

other person, independently Certainly, I say what whatever whatever whatever if you're

a lot of a lot of a lot of my role. I'm, if you know, I'm not

you know to be to get to be to avoid it, really try to avoid it

can't, there's in those can't can't just to maintain to the

margin. Being in the zone from my residency, well, obviously one,

for questions of to avoid that whole that's a way to

to be to be to the know, to the maybe I'm know I'm that they're

to be to be in the area of where I'm going to my family, I'm in my family

I'm, I'm because I know that because if I'm a operative and for

any reason if you get to give to my entity then I'm

put in my family and my my family and yeah

Sure. For So, they're all, for example, no, me imagine. I'm imagine.

I'm in Marina. A reme, capacity. You know, I'm, so I'm, and my

residency is in that one. Well, this verga, no, we're going to do you want to

that's a corporation, will say, no, we can't say, because this boy is

there, and this way is to be to be to be to the Mexico, to

other other way. I'm like to work more, or

they're going to do you know to do them to do you do you

do you do where you do you do you do you have to do you

get to look at the face to be in the person, avoid people

people you know you have to more more more alert no

delicate that that yeah a bit a me the

me the I've to talk to, if I've to work there in the area,

although I'm a pass, but to get to the area where I receive, and that

some person, and that another other thing, me and I'm a lot of, I don't

answer the salute, I said, for questions of the person, yeah, if they're

they're not, they're always, we're just, there's a there, and there's a and I passed on

an occasion that one one person, he said, and when we were not, Hey, you what on?

You know, you know, so I just the bato? Oh, I just, I just, I just know, I just for, for the net, there's much

in the street, then there's in the street, more the people, but we

do we to make the margin. Ayer, no, earlier, or an thing,

was the on the one's, to be exactos. We, we, we've

seen a life, I've had seen, but the marina He has been a ex-secuestros.

How's the name? I don't remember the other. Condesa, or dezac or something. They're a rarillo. They're not

a... They're not, the equipment that was very, very, very, very

identical to the marina. And I asked, I never had seen and I asked,

I'm going going to go, they've done by some car getting a time at the

time we're so it's me so it's rare to see them coming and

they were two and we we're we're not we're not getting the tacks and the

chingada arms and and the net I don't want to I'm I said okay I'm

a question you I'm a corporation are or what show never

we've never we've we're we're we're here we here me

the logo or that condes or something something that and that's

new or no Yeah, we've many years. We're we're

we're doing and we're so, oh, and the marina what has to be

with you? The marina has to work with us. I imagine that they don't with

the parader the sequestrata ar, marina a boyo and the

verga so is like I imagine that they do you do you do you

many corporations like the fiscality yeah of the federal

you pay the point when they're doing some of

active between them for example in this occasion of sequestros

many times you have to get to get to the situation so you need the

support to refor the security in a case of a of an of

an agression so so the really see the really they're

in the people yeah I'm a what is the that

is the most you I I'm a M-16. That is

short, long, how much? It's a arm tactical. It's

the same arm that's the marines of the United. The net is an arm

very practical, very easy to manoeuvre and it's very comfortable

to work to work or in the interiors or in a

house in a house, that the shortita then that

can be what can say? Like, more that's it.

And apart for the culate retractal, you know, but it's your but it's for you

more than that's. That's about it? 60. No, well, it's,

it's a verga. Yeah, they're some arms of, that's a verga

abo, ah, oh, the verga, eh? Mm, that's

verga. Mm-hmm. that's that me me, me, me, me,

me, me, me, me, all these things like the people that

not the people, because many of the people think that's a thing that's because they're

just a mental of what one says, and this and the other. So, to me

surprised, I mean, I'm, that for a red social so to communicate

to be, to to want to share to share to know,

and a little stories of you and that really to me came

to because I'm always had I've been interview

to convivir with with someone that that's in a

pinche ram that's the being marino comps that's

marries no you don't think that that too

difficult simply the thing it's it's difficult the

those are so don't so don't so put

let me how was to the first person that

that I was difficult How? No, well, it was... No,

it was... No, it was not a great thing. Ah. How was? Well, it was in an

enfrontation. It was in a frontiment was to neutralize the menaceouser and, well,

and, well, and the of them, or the and that they were in their house,

that they were in the man, so, so, well, how I can say,

yeah, one it's one more normal. Malamette we're normal, but they're part of the chamber.

It's part of the halie. In, in you, it's normal, but I'm not normal, to the other.

No, no. No, but also one does because it's part of the job of one, no.

No, it's for good, and for care to do not more because if,

uh, for me, um, for me, the fact of the death and that

not so complicated. For me it's very easy to talk to the death,

I don't think to me it's a lot about the

problem. Because I was related to with the health then so

so so there there there many things not

of that fell a accident and and so

so and so and you go mentalizing. Yeah,

of the actually, I've some of telephos of not so if you're to talk

to hear something. No. Well, I'm to how to work

and how assimilar the role this of the death. You know, to see a more

different. Like, for example, a point, a point that you can give to

this. Well, is that really the murder is, is natural. It's natural. It's

correct, I mean, it's the thing just just assimilar and to

be sure that's something that's a time to when we know we know,

but it has to pass. Nobody is eternal, no. But it's

a question of, it depends. Much people, not, well, not,

but is the same, no, I also, I'm the same,

I'm to be a little the fact to be a bit a bit, I'm going to get him

a man, I'm a a girl a girl, but for the same. Yes, yeah,

it's the his mentality. But for example, orita, what I said is

interesting. You know, no, no, no, no, no, see,

but if he's a family, there, there is to be to be

or also, or also also changed his form to perceive

that. No, is that you know, learn to perceive it to perceive it other

form, no? Well, I took unfortunately the mother of my

exovenants who are people very very um me affected

so, so it because because it's a family direct and is

a person that has been much carino but but you

learn to assimil no you're a person a Yeah,

complications, Enfermedities of Bege's. So, one has been mentalizing of that time and time has to be

going to be going to be going to be so one has been to be prepared to mentally, independently

of that you have the capacity in that's one, one has to go to go and

because, unfortunately it's going to go to not, but, but,

but, it's okay. If, if, if, if, yeah,

the form of perceiving it, now, you know, now, this, yeah no, why? Because you know,

he's, question, no more, and he's, okay, it's, okay, it's, for this,

for this, and yeah. Yeah, I've had been, I've been, my mom, because my mom was a person of,

and, you know, you know, you know, said, he, fellio, the last, of the

last, recent, fellace, a man of her and he and me and they're a man,

and me to say, to you to say, to the mom that felled a

woman. I got the telephone and I made my my mom to talk to talk

to do you know, so I'm my man, and my mom has been

a lot. No, that's where you say, hey, hey, that's,

per se, and I want to get to another to be a other, but

to be saying, hey, try, and you know, if you if you're

to go to go to 120 kilometers per hour, or

you go 50 kilometers per hour, yeah no Yeah,

it's so, so, hey, and keep in to be able to get to be able

to do this and they're going to do a little bit of it. It's like you get to, and it

just it's just no more. No, there's a way, no, that's a thing,

because much people see, and he and he starts to do a form

very a rebatada and a risk too, the, uh, the

the health of one. Yeah, there are there are questions here right I'll check the

telephone that we're for the people, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you're a question about it. Pience on one of my papa. What, what you

want to me to let's tell me that way from the first calaca

no, but it's an one front a point. And yeah? Well,

no, it was a way of the suerte. All right. He has a taken

a ballast no. But me have been about a very much. And I saw the

for desient because because you can because you see the sunbill a subbion

like a peculiar was pium and there water water fresh

my love the cuck is to cagar says here

how how many how how many have had How many I've I've had

I've taken I guess the good is one is that one is the one is

the no, no, well, no, you know, as as

a I'm, I'm five, five. The thing of the

relationship is complicated with because one so one's

a pass and not so not so that's not

so it no, and it it's complicated because

many other person the the time of the job because of a reason

I'm sitting here with you're sitting here but you can't you do you and say that's

you're going to do you know because because it's part of my job I'm

okay this this is I'm to occur it's I'm I'm

a little in a little in a you would be to

infiltrated to a a cartel and if if

No. Yeah, I've done Yeah. Net, company. Fere in my state.

Very, very very long. Yeah, I'm at you. A see, what was

the mission? Or, what was the result? What did that? That's the cartel

not said to be a count that was a there's much forms.

Principally the change of identifications. Obviously, not you can go to

to get to get with your identifications official because for the thing of security

because of the change of identity and you look at the manner in

any way in a person. We know that in all the and it

is so difficult to contact to there. So, so you make

in between and you make a a with

someone and someone and you and it's going to be done. It's

here's there's there but obviously you manage that other

profile. Other tone of voice? Another other accent? For

example, not as that I'm the type of the type of I use is very

distinct very different. For example, I'm I'm going to be

talking with you can be from someone that's someone very prepared.

I have a question and I know to be to be to be

to be to be to be to be and I'm so it's varianno

the form in the more or you're going to say that's they're using that

words or such and you go back to be and you and start

to make to make to and what was the mission? I was

there was a reunion where there I was going to be people important of those cartels and

there had to give a detention there. There was, so, had to do not a detention. And that

attention if was done. Yes, so did. And never they were that you were infiltrated?

Well, that I think no, because here I'm still. Awas fresh. Oh,

whey. Tatar! Percr's This perr, this perr, the questionita of that that's the I'm

a pester the bared me. No, no, no, no, you know,

don't, they're gonna, do you to get me to get a- ghouita, well, we're gonna

we're gonna get us a-gazoo, the bros, oh, yeah, you,

got a, you, compa? Quant? How, how, well, hang,

is that one, when, you know, when, you're, to be, they're, they're,

there, man, Hey, no, no, don't, not me to be me neighing the talk about it. If you're not, oh, yeah, how do you think?

No. Awah, yeah, water, man, pa. So, whitts, in the verre

on those questions. Oh, man, not, says here, yeah, we're the

we're not, you know, he doesn't that they'd in the in the casuel? Well, never me not,

never had, never experimented, but, who, you know, he'd, he'd, he'd,

he'd, to be to be , to pass. that he gets a maniac compa and that say, be,

Chiquito, come to do you know, let's see my cut out of the capuchita, quitate

the rifle, the trage come back me to go to the patted to a clobot of a tallya

with a tallya with a chiquita, put in tequila you know the riflito kebrado

back he'll he abrga it's a beautiful or it's like the hermes Or just

after this after the interview how? How do you Hermes? I'm very

Fereke and that he one of us right we'll get in the

mouth to see the chup a bit a bit water

water yeah yeah I'm yeah so he says

here uh this question I think I did

at the but if not so not let

ask why decided be marino? Oh, me got the

Cotterreau. In what's in what? No. I mean, my tirada not

that was my tirada was to get to the marina. But no another the ram.

Simon, no, no, no, no, no, not are the car,

in the refue. Yeah, I can not put to there. I'm going to

look at there, and I'm got to and I'm done. And it is good,

or if you had liked the other? Um, Well, I think that's well, because

for not I've been to my life. Siendo my life. Siendo, no

see your rostro, no see nothing, ah? If you have suborned to

you, not to a to all, to a whole, the, how

the, the, the, the, the, or, has existed

also for all all all, for one no more? regularly

It's very common when it's very common when it's a lot of attention the time that's when I do a fairer but it's a decision that can't take one one more

is a decision that's a time between two, three and we have to we have to because

many people there are people get to the alt-mands by the other for further. And if you

do you do with a bit of a bit of a little a little you go to the boat

and much a lot of it's not it's not it's they offer in the amount of

that you don't get to not get to the how is the maximum

that they have offered you I think one two million

pesos or dollars? No for for you no more or no

is that, as like, as you can't do do you do a lot or not. You know, if you

do you, they're not, if you're they're not, and we're in the same we're doing, we're doing,

we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, well, we're doing, so, so you're

to do you, do you? No, because if, no, a man, we go to, we're not,

regularly. Regularly, the decision there's the commandant. The, the one, the trope,

the man, and no more, or there to have to be depending the situation.

Depending on the situation. Because many a lot of there are there are right now.

Yes, and here and here? And here's, and it's a four? Yeah. No,

is there is there is there says, okay how is that do when

they're to work in the Sierra? Well, as a a lot of times that you don't to talk, many times

we've got these catres of campaign. Some are not pluggable. Or not are not comfortable, but you're not no, you know,

no, but many times you talk where they're, there's times that you turn in the case of the

cabinet, back in the back, and two metas down to and there you go back. The net

to me has to work to work for the year, because no to the other to

the other, there's, the there's the soldiers, Soldados. But if I

had to go to go to end up out of the rancher and so and you talk to

get to where you know, where I know. You're specializes more in

a city. They're prepared for all. Look, in the chamber

of us is to care the coasts and the littoral the

job of it is what mark no legally is all the

is all the is all what is we're doing we're doing we're when we started the

war internal that exists that the the army the army and who's

the army man was man man man's not many not has not even there's

a lot many many people people were and they were and they And also, there's

the fact that they're saying that we're more more capable because it's like the perros bravo, they're

in train and train and train and train and train. And at the time that they're in chance to get to chambia,

you know, you're out of the other way. It's like a man, I'm a man,

I'm a morrow of insults. Yes, yeah, well, so, well, something,

something, that's a thing, to be a , It's a that is a

debate much and I say because I know I've not I

have seen but I've done that every president that he's

a team a new a before were the

federal and before were so various corporations that

in the Pean Neto was I don't I I don't know. In the

FOTS, was certain. And now that he went Lopez O'Rodore, he'sed the Guardia National. Why,

you think, that they do that kind of, of how it's called, of methods to combat

the delinquency? Because there have to do other corporation? Well, are strategies, are strategies that's

that's used for, for example, the This is this this sir, trailance

no, the corruption. And, for me, no, personal. For me, it's a

error. And if si, there's no, I'm the commandant supremo, the force

Armada. For me, it's a thing, I think, a corporation distinct to,

to be a thing, that's all the same people that was in that's, so,

no, no, it's the same people, just to change the uniform, no more,

the Calate, Chamber, and the Guard of National. But where he gotro, people? They were statals,

federal? No, no, no, no, no, the corporations federal. Some of

some of the police federal, because the majority were, they're despedos.

Yes, for the corruption? Yes, the Army, is a mess with all

in the thing. Ah, okay, the Army, took some, the part

of be Guard National. It's the support in the

lapse of to complete the plania. Guard National has a plania for their

people, that is people that are people that are people new,

but the majority is people of the army. I imagine I imagine

that is very difficult to start a new and to hauler for

people. Yeah, to have people that know that know how

is to the ball for that the new are diestrand rapid.

Right? Or if I'm saying, I'm sorry. No, no. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. Oh, well. No, no, but, so, is, so, it's

very complicated, I'll have a lot of people. And the net is the new people and if there's a

bad, no way, me be a verga. No. No. No. The people new that's

getting to the Guard ational no doesn't no no. Awas fresh,

my pa. father. Oh, yeah, I mean a question very good

and it's me was, I'm going here is a man. a

marino a can't a month, and how approximately? 15thal

Pao a uncenal well, depends of the hierarchy that they have

varies much it. It's for grados are like 18 grads

about your mother? The first how? An approximately

I think the grad more a grader that's a marinerer is a

man who's a about some 10,000 pound 15 10.

15 al. A little an approximately. I don't exactly

it's exactly it's more less. And the is the number of 18? Exactly

but I do it's much. The most the second the money

about no the they can a number there. There is, I don't know how much. But me has to go

nominies of the commandants that are up at the $1. A-in-a- $1. And if

is a put-i-son that's-o-a-be? Well, I'd the responsibility to get a to be a lot of

a officeine but have the responsibility to the people. They're to coordinate operatives,

some some of some ideas, support that's that's people who they're

in the people to do you and if you do that the people for the responsibility

because the commandant he has the man and a example you know well

ohla god God if you want to not you do

do do tros in an in an front there

there there there there that there and you

do and you they they they they they

they they they that matter of the car and all that and all the part of a fairer for the

family or how it? Yeah, it depends the state where you see. I think

here in Sinaloa the state taught like a million of a million of a so fallacy

in combat and the corporation so is the charge of all the gastos funerarios

and apart it's a an indemnization to the family. We

we're not another like a type of a that when you get to

get this tristement and you can't to come back to come to you're going to you're going to to get to

your spouse or if you have your if you have to your parents, you know, to get the to the wife and the

people, to give to to who can't even to you can't you want to you can't. It's

a little really, well? Well, yeah, because for the life no doesn't

pay. And if if you have so, well, do you know how do you want to

give me 1,000 years. No, well, that's difficult. All that's

we're that's he's like to be married to be a man. I'm

a bit bravo. That's let the be a imagine that he preend it

he he's like he he's he's he's he's the he

I'm going to start. Ah, if he's to start the catas now just they're not

they're oh, oh, oh, I'm this he's a man,

no, it's a question, but that's they're to go to get to

what I can't say, I can put to in the call in the

call in the car, no me me don't and it's a

woman. Ah, oh, but there's we're we're There we'll try them

in the Tienda, I know, well, yeah, you know, I'm saying you're saying

there's a thing, there's a thing that I'm in, I'm there's in the

corporation, you you've had to a one of the marinas? I'm me let me

a bit one. Yes, so, why? Because? Well, with a morrig

there in there and chambiand Andy, a bit, let's that's, that

No, no, well, what's what? It was, it was just a move. They were in an operative? No, no, no. In front of a quarter. It was in the office. What he said, me, go, man, ten.

And she was the one that Prender the match. Oh, chikito. Prendit and you, both, padd'en. The same thing I was that, no? Well, well, so.

Dice, how many novias try. Auret right I don't bring any no yeah. It's

being being calm to be or no? What I'm to be to be

that's a thing but it's a good so that's better we're just so

we're very so I'm going to go to get a yeah no way and of

there there's there no way a chino of the question compas

no and I get the capuch they're going to get more

water fresh, beautiful. That's a fellow that's a man, that's the

that's the quitted let's the man, no, no, no, what's

they're they're inamour, and they're and amouring. Oh, and so that's

beautiful here, no. Dice, says, which, to, how, to what,

how, how, you have expuces, and how your experience? No,

that the forces that are the airs are the that's not the no it's a

no, it's another that's a pen the force air there's there's

there's there did you give you know, well this is water

fresh has you, has sent you have seen you many

times for why, for why he did me because he

is part of the show the the fear the the mind

you would the circulating for a car and the and the there's

a train and we're in the city in the madruly and the and they're

and they're and they're to start to be and they're in the the catos also I

have to make me to make my my and I'm to get me to the

show. A you're at you're to come to you to come to come

to come to come to do to make a to do to do you

Oh, What has been Apparato Piedra, things where it's

covered in an enfrontation and that he's he'd a ballast but

he was he he said this he Valio The of the

story that I from the beginning that I'm that

was I'm It was a barco of a ventana. When you were the detonations, pegged up on a mark of a ventana. Yeah, yeah, if I had to have taken a little more to a little bit more pausing, if I would have pegged.

And in that moment, I think that there's that there's always, both the corporation, as, as the, how they say, gattilleros,

very, very, for to know where I'm going to see, because I'm imagining that moment tiemble the man and tiemble all, well.

Yeah, well, it's the Capacetation that they're to control that's the type of things with the respiration

and, well, I mean, mediante the respiration you're to relaxes to make a

more certain. If you you're not to be able to get where you want to

get to. So, you consider you good to tryar? The net so,

so, but I take a one of a photo you're going to take to the

Photo or video? No, no. I've got a photo there one of the last last time I went to the last year, we used to use some,

like a cartulina with a silhouette with a silhouette marked. I'm a that we're that we're with a arm

short, with a nine millimeter. Of 50 of a fire one. For there I'd try one photo.

All right all the pecho or the head? Oh, my, are 10 meters with a arm

short is difficult 10 meters 10 meters of arms is difficult to what I have

experience because I when I did that I'm yeah yeah

I'm put out there water yeah water yeah no

I'm there there's there there's there does come

you're right right oh oh You're Sackando Flot

here, loco they're going to get to the house way. Oh,

for you to get a little bit of that's there. Oh, and I'm with that

that's that's the paper ishry? That's that's good to clean the cuss

and the and the little bit that a little that I don't know oh,

oh, oh, so well, my Marino active, a

one, a question that you want to to pay second part. The

second part, we'll see where the shing we'll do we're if there

can't to do you to get to something to feel the adrenaline. Let me give a

a job to the people to the young to all the young

to the way in the way for the way, well, because it's what they're

that's they're in the those that they are the they're in the

for others are a lot of them. I've to talk about me over a people who say,

no, you know, I'm to pay them to buy them a while $3,000 in the

carter and they have to pay the money. It's not it's easy.

It's not that's more, get me in the man, they're not. Garned more. And then you're

a minute. Well, there's, more than you to be a gusto yeah. The netta. Trabacherer

honrado, well, I mean, to me have offered to 50,000 pesos mensuals

to go to go to and the net, no, it's not not really, my

tranquillity, it's more than that's, but one they're not for one's for one's that's

for a , but if they're not, so they're going to get on them, and they're

they're not, they're not, they're not that's, what is what is what they they're

more or less less. Disconnoxed really in the but, for example,

me has talked like I say, like I'm that's the parro, I'm going to pay.

I'm going to payer. Mill Bolls 13. Ah, of the morros that I let's

the, the of the chalalit. Me said, no, I said,

I'm saying a parro, me come a water, me come from there's a boy, there's,

no, there's three winerererer oh, no, and they're they're they're

a cartel of of the morse. Oh, God, and how years they're no, so they

took in various. I don't know exactly how they they're but if for the time of the

murder of the armament and all that roll, so it's some various years that I've

been in there. So, so the recommendable is that they're

a hard, partando's being. And it more, and I cost

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