LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - ME TOCÓ LA MASACRE DEL SABINO GORDO COMO CRIMINÓLOGO — Raymundo

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

ME TOCÓ LA MASACRE DEL SABINO GORDO COMO CRIMINÓLOGO — Raymundo

Plebada, what happened? Here we and down to the puro, I'm a comrade, eh, fierro at the seco, said, sin saliv. Agua fresh,

my, yo. Those who have tried, yeah, the sin salivac, my respect. Because,

so, to make it, has to doleer. Yeah? Or how, how you do, pal? No,

well, that dole, dole, compere? It's the I've got it's a little. How many rail? 34, completely.

34 years. At the, how many years you, to receive, way, of criminologist? At the one, 21.

It was a, a career technical? It was a career, no, the licensiatura in criminology. At the 22, me gave

a plaza when I had a while I was in calient. Incalient. Yeah, I'm a much because when we did those

of the people, they're, they're just just, just, Just the more I can't be, as much

that you can't. I live in a barrio so you know a Alphonseo Ryeyes. And of there

is very, well, very conflictive. Pesadone to the people who know there, and they

had much the chak to put them to put them to give us, a young of a young of a

prison, a private in the fiscalia, no, he's, you know, where you're

where you're like, you know, I said, it's, So, it was So, it was, it was,

it was, it was, the, water, yeah. Oh, yeah, then so,

why, why, for what, for chambia, for to work, for, to get to

that matter, my, my, my was the first, was the , I'm a

little, but I'm much the programs of the CSI, of those of the fictitious and

that, she's mad, she, she's, she, where I lived every the day

to do the day, all the days, all the days, all the days, I've seen the those ministerial

people, the people, those who are in black, working, and investigating, me put to

be a chapter, I'm and I looked. But, but, but,

yeah, it's very different, that's very fantastic, in the television, yeah,

in the reality is more. A lot, but, just, just, just, and in

personal, what, did you know, yeah, to, yeah, to,

well, more than is, to see, see, to see, to start the equipment, that not is

the sufficient, or the technology that's that's advanced as it, that were very, for example,

the wayas, that's, and they'd to do that direction, and the matter, and say,

nah, clear, that, simply you know, simply, you know, well,

just, polvo of graphito, that we're using, and those wails, mandals to other laboratory and that investigate

to be if those weas wueas they're not these wue and you're

to make the way you're doing that's a guy that's of a little he's

and then it's very much very different to do okay so I'm going to

a scenario the system to do to do the person to do

for example the wayas is the is the thing is the way

is the hair or what more exist Indicions. It's to be

to look Indicions. I mean, imagine we a scene of a emisidio and investigate

well, of the time in my time that I'm in the fiscalia it was like in the

2014 and 15 for there we took a case of a person, it was a person gay

and he and he he was so they did goye and they're all, I know

I'm took to give it. T'O. Ensangrantated the the way, arastraming

a manches of sand, manches over the page. So, a part of

that you you know to get to the scene, is to investigate how it

was what was what was what there's there there there

was, there there was there there was a so that so it

is to be there in the scene. Tent things like

things things tirad arms, what you could find to

you make a conclusion of what could have supposed to be wey

that's he went to he's he's he's with a arm of a fire

and he was in a lot he was in whatever there's they're on a

motor ballas a verga two balasos there that I'm that I'm that's

that's he's that he he's he's he's he's the pedo

there there there there And people that they've seen how

he said, no, for two chavals in a motor, get them, they're they're doing,

and they're saying, they're, there's more, it's more investigative for the ministeriales

in not to know if there's, uh, yeah in our case, that's like peritos,

this, for example, if you can caskios, investigate those caskios, those, mandars those,

mandars it's in car to make comparatives in some other other places that ,

uh, presentiated, So, the carmasties, the caskillo me indicate that that's of an arm and this arm was used in a

role anterior to two, three days. So, so, that, for example, that pacto is, is,

is it's like, well, how you're, like, kind of, like, so I'm, so I'm,

so, one, as a, the scene of crime, is to be, checkarce of cameras,

this, to investigate, the, the, the type of, the type of , all of, is,

yeah, investigate, Verga, is to ampler the more. It's to ampler the more. For that's the last 20 years committed this delit of this person,

that robor. And, while it's... As much, I know, that you, you know, that's not the other one

one way, it's got registered, like all the system at, a level national, it's registered.

Ah, while not, whereas no, the way yeah, the way yeah, so the wailer's if we're saying, if we're just,

This way, you know, no, no, has this way, no, no, has no, this, so, there's, it's, it's like, in a base of data. Okay, okay, so, so, that's, that's a bit, that's a example, no? Uh-huh.

The batto committed a, um, a, one, uh, and, and, and, and, and, but the bato, well, was, was the first,

that, he committed the delit, and that, and so, and so, he felled, he went to, yeah, is, the, the, the process,

it was, the process, was, If the baton If the bato no Woblede It's impossible That's impossible

To get in the Carpet of Investigation And how would Tartgetas of credit Well, Or how No, yeah

are more These movements that he's In question of If you're If you're If you're If you're

Linkyndo Or yeah No, yeah Nothing No, there Isiste Well, Pudierra

Coulda It's but no, I mean the same carpeted or the same investigation

has to keep in with him to where she had gone to be cameras, all the

accessos that can have to them can't have that's more hall to the

agency of the agency well, he's, he, he has to know,

he, does it doesn't many years way that are cameras of

security in parts of the city then so and there cameras

but no more a four cars, way, and no he can't to grab

nothing. Yeah, yeah it's a yeah, yeah, yeah, it's of,

it's of those types carpetazos that they kept in, that they didn't with anybody,

at least a person to do it and so he's going to get the cadenita that

that person I know that person that's, the, the way that's the thing,

the I saw that person, or the other for there could be in

a bit more more, more adentrava to the fiscalia. Yeah, that's, yeah,

let me get to another of us, and there didn't know to be to the

other than you know, we? We're just just to investigate us in the crime. Just how

it? How was the thing? How it was? Of there exactly, what is, to us,

we know, we know, we're, we're doing a type of the dictament. You know, you know,

you know, the house of the call, Rio Tal. In the entrance there was the

door forced out of and at the interior we're we're we're in the

place you know the area of the area of the person and the person

blah blah blah blah blah describes what was what he had all the signals

of violence and you and you take photographs video of the local recollects

the possible indicios that were in the there you do you do you

do and you you pass to the agency of the

public to after after that our a call it a cab

that's where it's where's where's the it's the way, more extreme

that you're to have taken to get a scene of a scene of crime, well. Here

New York, was the the Savino Bordo we know so you got to hear that that's a

bar? It was a bar? Ah, yeah, but you it's very but you

that's a 2011, for that yeah yeah it's more than 10 years

more of 10 years. I took to listen is that, way, in those years, the net, if it's

more culler, where, where, where, in any any of the city, or so, it was,

if it was, the initial of, the, of, the, the, that the

was, or not , I mean, or not, but, to what I heard, in those

feches, way, in those, 2018, to the, to the, year, or a,

or a, little more, it, It was when it was there was much of the way,

I don't know he said, he doesn't exist but like it's more to the sorda way, like it's more a sorda

and in that time it way, it's bad-de-a-a- what's- what's- what's- in the

Sabino there's said that it was it was for to be mubrero so they got on

and they they're and they're that they're one of the one of the one of the one of the

one of the one of And they went directs over the mer, well, that was the that was the way of the movement there. But these vats, they're going,

they're going to because I'm thinking that days before they've had made a menace. That's not, they'd have a dismadre.

So, yeah, passed that day. I was, it was like at 9, 10 of the night. I was a

service social when I was in the fiscalia. So I was with the people and all there,

I don't have the other, I don't have the place, but I I mean, much, like,

like that's over, much liberty. Yeah, so, you know, so, we know, all the

whole, the demarre that's, yeah, I mean, I'm remember much of that, that's,

that's, that's, there was, a pairhita, well, that was, there's, also,

so, was direct, so, was direct, the demadry, and, there was, there was,

talking, that were, there were, there were, so, were, so, were,

and, ching-as- lesion- lesionados, like some 17 lesionados. In the

moment, they were 17 mortals, but yeah the other two as they're

in the university. That's that was that way. It was that time. I mean,

I mean, that was, I know, that one's he, he's, he's, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's been being being being the pituf the pitufo,

the trache black, your zapatitos, bolces and all, it was the

mader that there, because when I got to the house where me quit the tennis and the

tussettes all the little of my, not to try it's all that's the magnitude

very cany that's that's bad at the second plant or? No, it was a

plant not a plant just. A plant. A plant. And there, well, you,

you're doing like the type of service for you to get them to do that yeah because

was doing putting so. Yeah. So, so. So, when

when they they're to get And it was the firsts? And, and see it was a impacate

because if you get to be the matter of that's, I've got to have taken to be the people,

I've got to the stasasasas that it was in the 2011 where I'm the mere mata

of the desmadre until the 2018 but in the pesable was until 2014,

2015 but I'm earlier to that issue to be to see it's impactant where it's

but not so. But not so. No, not so. One that me impacted Machin was in a

case in in Juarez in the New Orleans. There was of the mismatter between

malandros and soldiers and there what I impacted was the punteria of the

pincis because in one way that's that's the car and all the

he took to the he was that he was that he went to all this part way

kept all all right all the guy with the bato and the man was the

he was of the my man And I impressioned to be, but more the point of the point of the

point of the thing I'm, I'm sorry, that way we went, we were, we've been, six, six

fours? In a same carminton? No, that's like they're like they were, like,

so they're, and it's, they were backer, because they're there's, there's a topon,

yeah, yeah, so, yeah, that's the two, the most. Ah,

the, all the, all the, yeah, yeah, he said, I was, I go,

it's, the picture, the of the movie, the depreder, that's the way, so it was he, so the

I was, he was there, I'm gonna he, and I'm all the many shingacos that I'm

that way. That's man, what's interesting, way. When you you get you, when you

you know, what you, what, what, what, that's, that's, this mother

was to be psalate, or it's being cabron, how, how, how was your experience?

There, you put to the position of the , the Quarpo's

to be to be ridges and all the role. But it's more, I mean, my experience

in this time was like, I'm in a matter, I mean, to say, but it's like,

hale or someone has to those first cases, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's a bad, but I mean, then the question human, it's like, you know,

you know, you're, you know, you're not, you know, you're playing, uh, all the

news are full, then it's like the experience so more, more cabrona that I've had been

when we're two menors were, they're three, four menores I'm talking about 13, 14 years

in a point that they they were, so they were, like in a point? It was, it was, it's a point

where they're a, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, one, and, and, one, and, it was, and,

it was, one, it was, , We're there, I don't see, in the ball. In the

ball, then they they were, they're there's those vats, and they were a morrillo

chikios, that the mama, we're, we're, we, so they're, so,

they're, they're, so, they're, every case, every case, they're, different experience.

In that, the, the, the, the, that was, like, adrenaline,

my first being in a a dis-madre strong and another in question of

that's out of the media, it's coming in the teles, that's like that

you're in the way, the way, it's like, the way. No, well, I imagine

me, I imagine that there was innocents we. Yeah, the majority of the

17. So, that what I'm that I'm to know, in this bar,

there was a person that had a person that had been, you have, they had,

they had, they had, that, that, that they're not, no, they were

the other convoy and he was remangando paro, then when was a day, it was a

day, a day of, a day of, a day of, a day of, and there was where there and they were

and to all the verga, way. It was it was it was it was the

time where was the was the yeah so it was a yeah the center

what was the center, the and the of New Leone. It's like it was like the

it's like the it's like in the area of the old old and the bad you know and the

way of the way. It's not it's too. No, mammy, this is that culeer,

thanks to God never had talked to know to know in our

city but, but if have passed a cosita no, but so as

so like that get and remangando parho no well it's

just a man has passed a man? No, but that was because Yeah, but Yeah, but But, but

But, but an area, an area Yeah, an area, a bar, a A, a, something, an, something, Well, so, there was a, but, and it was like,

and it was like, it's what I said, well, in those Feches, way, like, like, Like, the, yeah, yeah,

no, I don't see they, they'd be in Lox, and, and, uh, the dosis,

you'd pegged different to the, oh, no I see, way, ta can Igo, boy. Oh, yeah, me, Ray. So, way,

never has been in a scene where, an example, there's a crime. You know, you, the perit,

ministerial, or what that and they're to get the malandros for the body or for,

for remat, do that, do that, way, not you have talked? I don't

be a little I'm a very much I'm a little bit of a carer of

a cat and it and it was very sonated in a podcast also in

the reporter of the reporter of those that was there's no more we've

we just we're that he came the made the the thing that

they were the baton no more panio to the traffic that

was the When when he was going to go, we'll go back, and I see, they said, they said, they're in the moment just that

they were in the body of that person. All right. So, what's the reporter. It was the reporter, the reporter, the reporter,

so, like, I was the, he said, we're the, we're having to put on the other side,

and say, no, say, let's, let's what, blah, blah, and let me,

and it was that all the all, so it was, and it was, I was, I was my, but it was a my

chief in turn that he took that's a that's that's he was in not they're not in

what you do you do you when no more five or six unities that's

that's that's that was constitution for a no man boy that's

that's that's you're I'm I'm I'm I'm imagine you

I'm to end where this this this this this

this DVD Because he was passing the air, did it, and just was panelled those of the television they should have

where they're where they're like that's like that they're saying, they're trying to make a pause they're listening

these guys these vats these bans and they're the issue that's the question, you know, what's the borgant

what we do, what we're doing, what's not we're doing. God, your mother, the cuckoo- my cullo,

do you guys, do you, do it, no, it's that's That's that you get sent us in Brom. It's that what you're doing. It's a little bit of the plaza.

We took a balacera in Juarez, a terra nova in the colony. And there's, and they're supposed to be in troca, for that's where they're a rotonda. It was a tropectioning the truck. Rotonda, what is? A gloretta.

A gloretta. And it was a truck there, and it was all that ballade. In others, they were because they're arms of that troca. And it was when they started. It was the display. well

I think it's a badroon, the federal, too, in the time. You know, you? It's, I don't know, the desktable in the place. The colony

is the gloriae to know to be the another like a other another colony

of the river. Supposedally they were to start. No, but not got the the trocas.

Never never came. No, but yeah no knew we know, we're

that they're those who are and they're putting to get to get to get to it's much

time. That's never the never did more. Now it all the stuff the

the trocas the trocas the they're in a ministerial. And what we can recollectar, photo,

let me, and yeah, no, well, yeah, the halet's and say, no,

so, we're gonna get him and we're to get him. I mean, we go- to come up

in a pedo, because it's a-web, was what you did you know, when you came, yeah,

yeah, I'm gonna go, it's part of the adrenaline because yeah, also,

also, also, also, we're, and all the stuff, so, and all the

so, in that's so, in the The balacera, that's a cabron. How the perit, no, is there, no, no, he doesn't know, we remember we're five persons, and all of the, that's the

dismayed, it's, and it's, because there's in the house there's one, well, when, upon, revented in the house, it's a bit of a-gachia. He's, I, some, you know, some of, misterial, reswarns at the three of the motors, scondence, and from there, no, out. And, there was the balacera, all what it had. I remember that was the car and then the other,

so, so, so, so the then the demadre was this side. I remember much that the other went to be

a truck negative. So I'm where I'm go to the part of the car and I'm

a little a truck to come to a chumadro to come to back. No, my distint

was a chief, he had a car at a little two ministeriales and then

come out of yeah, well, no, well, no, no, it's a

was a man was a mother of because, because, because, he got he did

me a No, we're all so, like, with the, like you said in the hand,

in the man, so it's like like, no, no, no, we're

getting to get us. And, that's a way, we, we know, we got, we know, it's a

thing, you know, it was, there were, you're, four of the, four quarters,

so, this, that, so, yeah, as we're, we're, we're,

to, specifically to, to that, not specifically to, we've, but, yeah,

if you, to to to the topone, you know, you're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to in the 2028.

Figate that when entered Dreeches Human, yeah, it was a chingue to play,

many things very minuciusious, and then then you know, and for a mal of attention or because you did a

subpo to get a little he did you do you know, and all the whole halet that you

did you're like in man yeah oh, yeah, yeah, so, yeah,

so, so, so, so, you, see, Abrazos, no ballazos. Well, not that was that momada,

but if it was that, well, the rights human, that's that you know about the rights of an human that's not, you know,

you're like, you're not, man, man. You're, you're, you're in so,

you're in a , with that, with that, that's, that's, he did what did what, the most

feo that you imagine, way, yeah, he's, government for him, but prohibidissimo,

so papiarl. Tocars it, I don't know. No, no. No, I don't I'm in, you know, I'm not

I'm in you know in the end of the man, and what's what I'm what I'm

that's that you do you, well, that's, well, at the end of the

boat will be not, no? Yeah, I'm, I'm, yeah,

but if they're all well, that's all is the question, well, so I'm going,

so I'm to be to be ch'b' What, pincha purr, you know, there's there to be to be there to

do you know, no, never, never we never never we're never because. The way, yeah,

yeah, get to enter to do it, get to do it, so, yeah, in the, in the,

in the other times, this, and we've been looking, this, this, uh,

, the, uh, you know, and they're, and they're, I'm massacred, me engach,

bolza, chingasos, tockes, and the mother. And, me, I don't know that I thought that I thought that he said, hey, go, go, ince, for ya, let's

to try and work, guys. And I said, like, I want to be, jefficen. No, man, yeah, go, yeah. Like, no say, way, or that me pein'er, I don't know, I. So, sincerely no, I know, but, well, but, well, it's like, because, you know, caw, no, I'm, no, I'm,

said, I, said, anything. Something, you know, that's bad, that, for that's there. And is that situations, way, that existen, are a, whew, possibility from the, of all

what you imagine, man. The, the case, the case, consideras that of

there's other cases more feos way, that you have talked chambiar or there,

or no there? No, there's been, when was the Monterey O'Cour,

for example, the motin of the penal of the topochico, the casino royal also, that's,

was to service, no me took to to enter but if the things more muscular

that there's that's the that's you're in the guardia because I remember that you know

we're still we we're we're still we're I'm just I'm just I'm going to hear of the

we're going to come to the casino we're going to we're going we're going we're going to go out of

what is Gonzalitos and at the back was the house we're we're

there's there's the there's the there's the service pericials So we went, and we, yeah, we're up at the SOT,

well, yeah, it's a lot of, man, it was a, man, it's, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna, five minutes, dude, no, yeah, it's, manned the yeah,

yeah, so, so, that's, he said, he said, I'm, says,

there's, supposedly, there's, more of 60 people, in-serrads, and, and, and,

says, we're, we're, we're gonna, then, when they're, then, when they're,

Halee, Bomberos, emulances, all those who had been got to them, I don't find them the way of

how to get the way of the entire way was that the thing, that was that they were

that they were to be a costadit to the casino royal. They were there

were a working there. And they were a retusator to run the pad and there and then

to get all the car that was that the magnitude yeah of 50

and many people. And that that that was I remember that he said,

Hey, boy, say, hey, whey, we, I said, how's it, you can't get, because, you know, your service social

just were in six hours. But I'm to get me to get me, I'm just, we're, we're,

we're, we're doing, we're just a 24 hours. And I said, but, hey, boy, and you,

he's, I'd say, I'd, but in an homicid. So, so I'm called that one

to send us to be a carrieita, too, a, a, a, desmadres,

also. So I, I don't me took a lot of the casino, but I was there,

like, like, I'm not the way to the frequency. And they're there's more that you

know, I'm doing, I'm doing, yeah, yeah, I'm doing, yeah, so they're,

yeah, yeah, yeah, after the after the after the, after, after after we're

to make a another two homicions more, one to, one to do and another for the

for the and then it were like when we got to the office, and the And I said to the head

that's all the other are just to be yeah, I said, yeah, we're not, we're not, we're not we're going to

get to get to get to get to get to get to do you and then you're chabbaugh and all the all the

all the hell down, then we're and we're we're doing we're we're the first of the

first thing is the other side was like the other it's like the other yeah, it's cacho. And the other, as well, all the scumbrero, all the mugrero,

yeah, of the stodied, he's been to hear of the restructural. Oh, that's like that. And the protection civil,

if you know, we're saying, no, we're, we're going to pause to you to say, we're going to say, if you're going,

and if you're not there's more, we, are, no, no, no, no, they're not, they're going to

get to, then, then, then, no, they're to be, we're, so, in CEMF, where they were identifying the

corpses and what was. But that, how was what was the did it? So, they're

literally like, yeah, so, yeah, got on, they're, they're,

there's, there's, and all, the theory is that they had been paid a piece to

the chido, and the bato's never, so, so, no,

he's, so, he was, the, the, so, so, these bats

were to ask, to be, to be, to be, to of there. Or to do you

to the local, but then they were in the time after I'm going about a few three

weeks, we went to the ministerial investigated, the mini-Cuper that's out of the video. That's

I remember, we know, weyes and all the pet, we've used and we've been investigating

all, and in an interview, in the batto that he came to be coming to

the bato and said, oh, so that's, that's, you know, we got we went

to the cause, we've, we've have been done the order of the other than the

other than there was a lot of people. I mean, the batto if he said that's over that's

a little yeah, after the after you two, three months? Two, three months,

they had, they had got a various, they had had not had a various,

and one was the one was the guy, he was, he said, there's, there's,

a video or in internet where the battle, there, get a, yeah,

a, a truckia and it is the mini cooper where sell the video. So,

they're the vats they're getting the gasolines and all. So, whey.

So, man. So, they got a various did you get a barrio, he was the

guy, well, the more, like, it's, you know, the more, well,

yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, man, who, what, what,

yeah, yeah, it was the more, the, he, he, and,

he, did you, did you don't, you got, you You went to have a

case of a... To cover three homicides that day. But first was of a narco

that had got to where you were in a car was like a like a quince,

a ranchio grand. A rancho of him and he he was he was a

topon too, they were there was there's a there's that there there

there's there. And if if did you do you did you

did you for this that you got to the other that's

the process was more less effective exactly, yeah, it was more for the

way, because it was more ching more halle, whew, now have over a way,

but I'm having a lot of I had had accidents when when I didn't

get that's way, I'm that I'm talking, we're we're

we're, we for all no, boy, but for all you unities,

eight units, each unidated was one or two peritos, a maximum three peritos. And I'm a lot of

you know, I'm going to be able to get a lot of municipal, so, so you know, to be it

for the world and then we'll be able to, yeah, a municipal what you'd looker, fiatte,

the things that me liked of this haleewee, that I said, this criminalistic of campo,

it was that was that you was that I'm to talk about, you could a robio, a rob, a car,

a assault to a a business, a murder, Wormite accidental. Homicide, multi-homicide, desmoder, whew. I mean, I don't know.

That was the thing. To be what I'm to talk now. Just, no more. But yeah, be there's and all over

so, way. No, well, yeah, it was part of your day-a-day, dismembered me took,

we, when it was also the thing Rihanna, way, that the pincha vionazzo that he took

here, of that's they were, well, me, they were to, I'm,

I'm, I'm, to continue looking pieces of the piece of the

piece of the vionette whew, pertenance this boy, you,

why you think the people think the not, no, no, it's

a man, they're they're because he had problems and,

then they had to disaparcerer and think people, do you do you know,

way, that's, so, so, because the people think more

that's that's that that's the reality that's so you do you know if you and for example

that's the penal of the top who were that's they're in four hundred and chaff

a chas a lot of lesionado and there what's what's there was a there was

a motin there's yeah they're they're they're so the

so it's it's febrero febrero was in febrero was in

February that's the of what the godron what 2016

w. 16. That was the motin that was in 49 49 of the other we're not we're no,

no, they're more reos. No, no, it were more reos. What policies was, so they were so they

did it? No, it was the was there's, but they're they're just they're playing

a point, but they're playing a point to what I'm this is and then there was

that's so that's mutined all they're allude so, but rebellion, like you

they're saying. And it's okay baches armas chises, we, of, no see,

we, of the rastrillo w, palos, with, with, with, with,

with, but, man, to do, to us, to do we, a moment that we

were, we were, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

we're just we're doing for zones. I was here in the area where there was there's,

there, there, there, offices, and all, that's that role. And various companions were in the patio and others in the part of the back of the backer there.

And every, you know, we all right. I mean, it was a whole group. I remember that they were about when I was going to be at around. At the next day, I'm talking to halarer. And my jayn't know, there's that no, there's a-madre. Vented, because, if we're just, there's a motin, and says, supposedly this, right, they're in, like, 25-1s,

or so, mortals. Here we say, we'll say, in clad. This, this, this, He says, for that you get to come. I don't like to

like to get to the morning. See, like the like the morning we're we're not

we're what's the so you're so much so you know, what's the what?

What's the after the investigation? No, there's I mean, they're not they're not

they're more than to give me to the last to do muggero of,

of a plente of cartels that was what they they were what they're innocent

this is they're innocent so they're so they're they're there's a ball of there's

no no well no well they're just they're they're up yeah

there no there there's there imagineate one that's in the body

you're to make to make that's yeah yeah more you

can to do more years that you can't, more years that's no,

there's a murder of no, there's here in this. You know, that's

you know, but, yeah, yeah, because, but, because, you know,

so, yeah, that's a question of a man, man, oh,

yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're there's, yeah, existier, but,

for what, because, because, so, is that, you know, put in a family

in a woman, that didn't, and the , just, but if aniquel

someone that is he said, if he had done something about the those just

about the justs, or the touch what you talk in this life. I mean, to be,

a people that the people that's going to what you would be a,

a murder of a murder? Penna of death or or no?

And for why? To me do you would be to do? Yes.

For? Because there deletes that you say for example, an abuse yeah, yeah,

to the let's see, let's go to go to see, that's that's

that way, yeah, way, is that, well, as they say, that the

people that have that have , uh, uh, unacions, Kedden,

not, me, I'm talking about, uh, a, a case, so,

the, I, those, I, I, don't, say, no,

but if they said they were a badastro. We've got to do you, four years. I said,

no man, not you pass the lance. So, you know, I'm not a p. castigo and

ching to your mother, I see, well, that's so, man. So, so,

the, the government actu. Yeah, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, that's, so,

so, that's, I'm, saying, that's, say, , 10 years,

I want to I'm gonna think that I'm gonna man, no, it's in the

thing's people people are so, yeah, I'm gonna look at my point of

view and with all respect and I think I think I think it's

it's that but that's that's that's that that's

that I'm I'm I'm I'm And, cometeed a

assaultar, well, I've done, I'm in this years of the

case, committed a of, de, what, that other do you

would, you'd like, traffic, for years too, but yeah,

abuse, eh, that's, no, that is, just, just, just,

that I'm, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

that a assaltantant mat, that assaulted, we. I'm sorry.

I'm so, because it's an homicidio that was an innocent for the

person. There also. And to those cases, then, of that

that they do they do they how can't say way, de level?

There's a word, that's a word, that they have, with that have been,

with a Yeah, that the person is considered a lot very much so, then there

is a barred the verga or how you know there's, yeah, yeah,

yeah, I mean, I, I'm, I'm, because, because if, if,

if, if the verga that did the delito, it was for, for,

with someone that was doing, he was doing his cochinero, so there are years

of, too, some are years of, de, of prison, but if

there you, what do you, for example, you know, they're getting to get an assaltar to a house of

but this boy, he's defended and he made to the assaltante. And even so,

he's got the boat, how you see, it's a cabrond, because you're not

to the integrity to your family? I say, but you but we're but we're, so we're

so, so yeah, so yeah, so yeah, so, so yeah, is, pinceremerement

the system here in Mexico, no, I'm gonna be to be the damn to the shit, I'm at

that's the one of the reason is because one of the one, yeah, entering to to your,

yeah, to do you, to do you, it's like, one, want to do you, that's like, the opa

that's up to come in order, no, no, quit that that's all that's a

man, you know, that's too the corruption, but, but, but it's the same

the same for the man, for this for this for this you, no,

apart of bronchias with the way, like you're like you, like you're, like, and it's like,

and it's like, it's like we're all the we, we're, we're, we're,

we're, we're, they're, they're, they're all, they're all to get into nothing,

then they're and then, well, never, you know, that's, that's over, that's,

that they're, that's, that's a bit, that's, that's, there's, to get the to the b'

that-verga, no, I'm, that does this and this and this No,

no, well, well, we know, we're, we're, like, like,

when we, when I went, when I was, when I'm first, the ambulance,

and then municipalities, and then the I was, I'm like, pericial, be,

it was, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's rare that you to talk

like that so, like that that's so, oh, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I'm, with you direct,

well, yeah it was, like the thing you like the time, yeah, yeah, yeah,

do you know, do you know, I said, I mean, yeah, I said, I'm a company,

way, the carthones, we, an accidental, well, he came a tonelada of a cartonels

to a baton, so, so I think there was , so, so,

so they're, so, they're, so, they're, the, the, the,

the, the, and there's, there's, there's there's, we know for us.

For all. That's that's, that's, that's, that's, I mean that's,

but I'm like, but what? But what? No, so, like, no-

was accidental, Tranky, no there was a total current with all the normas

and the thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, the company, so,

the company is, but, but you're, you're, you're, you're, so, so,

exactly, because, because, so, because, they, they, they,

no-se-ke-ma-mast, and it's like to get a little and what's going to get a way, of the of the businesses,

well, of the we're, we're saying, the company is in order, has the papero

and it and there's a mortito in the, boy, and the company, well,

it's, paga, what, what is the, the process for, so is an

indispensable of the process. For, for, for, for, to to enterer and all

that's all it's a better or it's a part of the family not the indemnization to the family

to be to cover with the accident and more apart indemnizera well more more than

because you're laboring no I'm I imagine that there I'm I'm making

that's in car of the gas and then after there no

well I'm in the Mondelis that's a company of a business

I think there this knowledge that so were the gasters of the entire of

the endemnization for the work that the person I think they were that they ended up

the family but I think it was of every company to be to be a way to

how how how to how much how much how how much yeah

because if it's that was like under the just that just to just

just like just just for that's, so, yeah, what, what,

what, what, that you can sound, the car of the bathroom, ah,

something, bad, but I'm in the year, is of the year, of the

of the boy, oh, the pincheed batto culler, way.

What is what is what is what is , chegana the bato, we, to use,

uh, no see how it that's the process? If someone there's there in the

commentio? Eh? No, no, no, there's that the compression and all the barceion and

it's a bad stuff, but it's, and it's a matter of that it's the process, boy.

What, what? That's the hell over. My jito, what on, my app? We're doing

that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Well, I was going to pass the pan and the chick. Oh, what you can't what you? Of the cases, those where what you're, what you're,

what you're, what you're, what are the cases? Dormorne Morte natural. Ah, well, in our area

are those are the actuales. There we're, well, is that, also, they're, they're not

especially of the area vial, the accidentals, atropellas, this, volcano. Yeah,

is, is, Other area. It's transit and other area of peritos that are specializes in only in that's.

For example, in other peritism in criminalistic to the camp is that mortals, mortes natural, mortes

accidentals, robos to casasatation with violence this, abuse, what was the case?

What was the case? More, more loco, we, that no couldn't encounter

like, like, it was that it's It was It was very rare, we. That's

very rare because no they're what necessary to to give with the

responsible. What was? No, is that you're going to talk to something, well, in

the case that I said a little, of the gay that's in that, one,

Garcia, that had desasasas that was that all the thing to do the man,

you know, that's a minute, so that that's a rata, that's a rata, so a

emicidio of a, of a bitio that's chasoled, they stasarone. There was plaito there, and there, the, well, what was the arm and the rope that used, the bato that cuchyed you, they're down

of the, the, of the, the, so, you know, you're going to find something. Or so, they're trying to them to be,

so, they're, they're, the, they're, the same, and all the, no, that's, it was evident, but,

I, you know, they're, they're trying to to be to be in the Mattewala, that is a bar here in New Leone, this,

even the day, there was that there was there was a massacre where they were a monster where was, where it's, when he's

he's got to the ducts, and the bato he got to they got to the day the next, because in the,

what was, no, I didn't even see any in the country that was the, the, that was the,

that was like, the, they started like that is, I see rare there's like someone who's

someone he's so at they're in the batio there uh

okay um and they they and he he got he got he was

he was he was like that he was like the but I don't we

we didn't know yeah yeah yeah they're they're they're not

they're not over seven with with the way with in the moment

it's like no no way so all here all here just

all just all just all just all and after then they've found out how much

how much they're in to be in to be a barcar yeah for example here in areas in areas

serrata in areas in the but for example that's not there's lineaments or persecution of caskills

so so depending the zone there are there sometimes they get no say for example

yeah there's there's the morti here and the carererone this quadra But at the

world, I want to more caskillo, you know, need to be more. One of the notion of

the notion of the area. Awah water fresh, Pa. Odomy, something you want to be

something. No, well, it's interesting. And, I know, to what we about us

about us a system, I go, what is the career of criminalistic in the criminology,

I mean, I mean, to have been to do you have to be a end of so-to-cuntes. So,

it's very, very, very, very, very good career. I'm, I think I don't. But,

now, right, there's the money, so, be the billets. It's very, very mal

paid, way, for all the ching that they're all the time, man, media hour,

and or the year, and the hour's, but you're, you're just about two, three hours,

way, for caskillo, number, number, he, take measures, how's to the

body, the head to the banketa, to tell this at all distance. I mean, it's

much process like to like to play way, that's, you know, you're, they're doing

the scene. Croquis, all, way, not the croquis, all the thing. So,

so it's what I do you know, that's the thing, how's, the body, how's, how's,

how it's, the car, where's, I mean, it's more, that's, yeah, that's,

that's, so it's, well, you're, me, I'm, yeah, how you're,

okay, you're, you've talked, last question, you have to be a

question, you know, but you know, just to to entertainer a person. For pure morbo,

yes, me, I'm not that we got to make it, I'm making, arms and the

shingada. But, well, you know, not we're to be able to do you, but you

do you? But you're not, no, no, you're receiving orders, man, you're there's the peon,ue,

that has the pedd, yeah, and I'm imagine that for that I'm going to do you know,

I'm going to get to the manned to be to do you, to do, to do, to get the thing,

no, he's a man, and put this and the shingada and gorely, say,

man. And all that's a cabron. A cabron, whew. When you I said the question this

that I that I'd that I'd that I'm more than other part of the world,

way, that if if you had talked to know of some news but that

went to the tronco for example no the my respect for all the family

of this of the 41 of the 41 Ayotinapa that yeah

that's that has years and she this mother and she said that

that mother is a one of a woman is a yeah and other

yeah for example that's not some case that's in all Mexico and part of the world, no, no,

no, no, no, no, don't have any, no, that's the case, Paolette,

no, it was in Mexico, in the city of Mexico. Hey, for example, all those of those those of those cases,

that I know, that the system is capable of anything, way. Yeah, for the for a,

because, are notties, way, that, way. I'm going to do you can do you

doge and make to make it to make a it's real so if one you know imagineate those that's an

right and they're all the technology yeah, all the hell the you

you're just you're so pinches man you're put to make sure you put into

a macho monster well puttons yeah puttense yeah if you want to

let you want to let you do you do it here is with us

in Monterey the Diego, thanks for to be with us God to be a good.

God's a good at the thing. And portat you know, I don't know to say you're to get a

racita that, that I'm I'm, I'm I'm going to I'm doing more

with the person in question of health, because one of the things also of the hall is

that you don't come you, you're malpazas you, you're streses and the stresses and

I'm of the amount, it's the one, and many times say, it's that

is that you don't try the capisetta and the man, no, the only that are

to come to the same my own because I don't know I'm chingotie for d'art to give to

you a time, you know, that's a that's not, yeah, so, so for that

those, so, so, so, well, he's, and the hale at the

end of the if you're so, you know, it's rare, we, that the

patrons if they're in your way, in all the things, well, it's very rare

that no, no more they're in that I'm there's, there's, there's, there's,

who, are very good people, people, you know, my son, you know, to do you

know, to do this, in this, you know, but no more, hey, your work,

I'm, do you know, I'm, I'm at the work, so, the majority are that they

can't do, you, get to, and say, you, Let me just, it's, it's a great difference as a good leader and a chief. Because the leader is, eh, what, we, we're, to

start around the chambah. And the he's not, whew, you know, wait, to fall to shingarle. While here, me, paled the starry that I did sell. Aw, we're fresh, me, pa. Ah, and if, if you're like, you said, it's a little bit of responsibility. Exactly. In that, if you're talking, the,

you're, the pundeeho. Oh, yeah, it's called with mad at the casso. Ah, if you're like, yeah, this, this. It was the same cabrown. Well, put on a berg, plebada, truched with the carrucha. Here I'm good, arisco, with the capucho. Oh, boy. Sal lupa, all, plebe.

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