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Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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Hello, my Amor, this day fagate well what you want to tell you

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eat much tacks much sals to the tacos. Today we have invited to Pless

to our friend Hector Lopee Hector Loppe the Uy Yuy or how

is? Well, the hacker for the the people. Because the hackers, They have

They have a row Very suburbio Because are A bit soberbio A lot more Agocentrista, no Because maybe We think

That's what we One of a computer, We can do a person He said, Well, I mean, I'm with my laptop In the

Spald In the Any part of the world, I do I do I'm I'm creatively I'm probably

I'm I'm I'm, I'm I'm I'm even Or even With a laptop of

someone more I don't get a laptop at some a bit of some a bit of a laptop already I've got to go ahead and I'm

to go back a conference and then I didn't have my laptop and I said present me one with that

my whatever I see like things I don't even like I have love to

the computers I'm like the I'm like I'm like I'm if I'm if not if you

have been you your profession the being hacker what had been Chiquito

I wanted to be a doctor, although it's a thing very very much there's a

very different things, I'm going to those days new new, I'm

to study diario, what that was to be hakeer, or yeah not you can't

do you know, it's a life kind of to be a much,

I've liked to be a scientific, but there's a sometimes

to sometimes to do to do sometimes to do this so

so it so so I'm very very I mean, I saw, I saw, I see very clear,

like, I, I saw, I mean, the, movie of Hacker, so, like, I'm sure to do you, I'm going to do that's a

thing, but I want to get to that level. Yes, I was with the Nintendo, I always had to my father,

and I always me, I'm doing that I'm actually that I'm actually he said, ah, Papa, what are, what you're

a thing, but you're, no, you can't buy a property, whatever something,

a voyage, No, Nintendo. When I was more a quarter of a primary, it was a computerer,

for favor. I don't need to, for what? I don't, they'd understand for a

computer. A loo a more other thing. But no, to me the computation always me

I'm from the little bit computer I was and over and hours and hours

and they were to be going to do that literally. A one of a screen

a one of a computer a computer a computer a computer

computer a of memory and even even if I never had a giga a machine and 24

128 of memory but the first that was a monochromatica with a monitor

in an an ranja had the Windows 3.11 was with the

that was with the morrillo the the the thing that you

have you have been like something like like people like things

like things of things of robots always is something from the super-sonic now we have

the possibility for example of the drones me would have used to design drones aeronautica combined

with robotics okay in the in the time that suppose not you'd

have been having for Elon Elom I would yeah if I

would would be if I don't I know I'm know

know know know well and that that's, that I'd know,

to make the way to do a check- to get a a little, I'm a teleka I'm a

try to tryke- and if hack-e- you know, I'm so I'm already, I said,

I'm sorry, to do you the question to debug, how? Debuke. Debuke. How do you

think it has been the process to hacki- the telephone to the president, whey?

I have my theories. This this is just after that's that anunce the detentions

of the mencho as the menchito then then after extraditions is a problematic

that's I don't know of the the arregos of the they said that the time and the

no and that they're to have other other people but then after

these extraditions it's and it means and it's no just

no, that I had rumbed but there's, but there's contacts, you know, you know, you know,

and you know that you're sure you're that you're hakekeated, but how you're hakeated three,

four years, while you're in campaign, while you went to and he did it's with a putto

forense. So, when minimizes something, is because really I really think that's

really like, or something, I'm, oh, it's a cellular a little bit, it's a a little

not irrelevant is it's the if it's you're doing, if it's too, no, no,

but not is me, it's of my a wife or is of my well, there's still there's

but it you're not, you're you're you're gonna you're to get to check your

mail, no matter what's, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you're doing the cell we're we're we're more than the thing, but,

but, but, how, how, how you that's that's that's

that's So, the number telephonic. Or so, the people, today, has access to bases of data

robbados or liqueathes. For example, a hacker enter to a fiscalia or a hacker enter to a

dependency. And what what you usually is the base of data. So, you robes

the base of the data, but a sometimes, you're you're to be a

sometimes you're to be a site to a site to see a other hackers

they can discard like for credit or the commercialize. I've have to be

that they've done to make a publics and a time. And a accesso

can be to be to be a little some to make sure that

but they're they want to get the but you're

they're not you don't but they do you know, but I'm to do

like any person the doing that this cause because the hacker

as the hacker, like a one, the the one, the the kind of the

fact of the law, and the problem is that the people is that the data after the

money, like, here's the data of the fiscalia or the PGR or to tell you don't they're

the value. So, like I got my benefit economic, then I'm just that someone

more than that's it's still but what we're doing that is they use it is that they doads of

telegram for buskages illegal. Where they have base of data like the NIEC,

the RENYEC, the of a lot of systems penals, systems of cars, so you put from the place of a

person or the name of a person and you put a information. That's all they use them for deodor

or to spantar persons. In the world, normal or visceral, it's like, you know, you know,

you get to a bot to telegram, I'm, I know, I know, I know where you know,

and I see what type of car you have to you know to do this so it, then

then it's like it's like to see, I'm a much information you know, a lot of

because they're records public, but you're doing these bots illegals where you're going something

just putting a placo, putting a number, you're all the information. But why? Because

Telegram? Telegram. Telegram is because it's like a red social very not audited.

Maybe that's the word. Not auditada and when the reportes there don't function for

So, for example, you see a page Facebook, that's a more of course is doing things illegal and you,

at the more you, at the report, you know, and you know, they put in an attention in one or

two months, but if the content is very delicate and the stuff, it's a

little we're going to get a page, in Telegram, no? So, in Telegram is

of what you want, we've seen pages of carding, clonation of targetas, vented

of information illegal, of, also, content sensible, of persons, now see,

of character sexual. So there's many things very, very, very negative and we

have you in first the access to that's anonymous. So the people make a

one of any whatever and a time it has not that your phone.

You can buy for one or two dollars a number to a number

to make a a new. So, so it can't be even can

a account of a a Scosia, a number of Peru, a number of Chile,

a number of Colombia, and even as you have access to this account of the account of the phone,

I'm in a number of other country. So, then it's there's the anonymat. And in

second, that the reports are and that can't do you do it's like very

programmable. So, it's a certain point telegram. Because it has a something that's

like the APIS and these things we can other other other

to program for the telegram make a a gestor of buskid that's a new

it's a kind of a social, just you know, just for messages like the WhatsApp. If you're to do it

program it, yeah, that's interesting. So, that's you know, so you're saying to the people that's using

Telegram? Or another application? I, we, we use one that's called Signal, that has

a major level of cryptography. She's used by departments of defense or agencies

of the United. Or the level of cryptography that they have. So I recommend that I use in Signal. But,

well, the truth is that the people don't have to be the same. So, for WhatsApp or in Telegram,

is what the people use. Yeah, they can't also the messages. But Telegram definitively,

if you don't be prepared, you can add a lot of people who are money, so, rapidly,

it's a lot of publicity and of the porqueria in the telegram. So, like, to have

kind of in that part. Oh, of this, Hector, So you Crette, and

it's I'm to occur the case of the president way. You think that the telephone

in the president if it has been hacked, if it has been hakeated since the before. Yes. I think

many people of interest have intervened. There's an application that was very of

a Pegasus that was used by the facilities or agencies federales

to enter to the phone. No, you had a message to

and this message to serve to get to the telephone but I think the people the people

or the people are they're in that they're in a lot of what information they're in

so what they're like conversations that's maybe it's what they're that's what you're that you

to say you to come a no because there's five llamas perididas or because there this type

of situations so like all the evidence digital of what has a person I think

the person as the person as if the president of the republic no has that's the person

the person most important of the I'm to keep my agenda I'm to care

to do that I don't know I'm so personal final yeah it's my

telephone personal and I can use to to make to make to make

the phone if me mark the office or to a presidency or there is something

there is something that's a little little of the time. And then it's my cellular there to

cotorrear but it's negative because we're we're not that we're with that I'm a

door to see that with the cellular then I bring to another computer

then I intervene someone more of the family then then I'm pivoting

and I go pivoting and I go and get into more and it's much

time also too part to be expulgand, of being, to be there,

no, no, no, it's a not here, it's pulgant, or the access or the

money, it's to be very to be a matter of the example, I'm hakego Claudia Shaveon, and now

what I need is, I put in a forum of hackers specific, hackers international, and

I think, who can want to to have a memory or this telephone, I'm going to cover six

$6,000. There will be a person who there's someone who and then then I

then I'm monetized the access, more if is a person of interest. So I think it's

because a reason I'm not because I'm a lot of you know, but who more, a person

to the person of the people, he can get to get to know what to know what

did it did a person, or someone, but someone he's going to get a question.

There's a question that I'm just about the privacy of the people, we,

that for example, no, suppose we, there, a relation of nobios and they're like they're

they're gonna they're gonna you know you know those they're just okay they're

they're in all the agreement to eliminate that video of your telephone from the

gallery and from the gallery and from that's that video really really is

it's really a way a way to recover no if

can can't recover We use a technique that's called Computoforence is to make a

a situation that's been in the past. For putting you a example of what all the people in the case can't

you know, formatias your computer or formatias a memory USB, no, that is like to clean

and leave it in blank. If I let me do herraments of computer forense, one that

we use one that is a distribution of Linux that's so Igaro and I'm to carve

or do data carving or do to regressal to three or four formateated

and also a little bit of the experiment to buy discos used to make in market

live or in any role, those I'm to make a computer forense and resulta that there's

the fact all the things, because the people put formate rapid, but the

data not they're originally. And how those they're how they're they're

if you're if you're if you do you do you do you're a better there's

a user that serve for that So, you can't get us, but it's very, very lent. I mean, even the formato complete of Microsoft. If you don't have to put a format of a level

with these services specials, this has a burrower, that's sure that's authorized by the Department of Defense of the United. Solely, just of that form. That's like to over-scribting with unos infinitably all the information that's above.

So, yeah, if you want to reverse to, you, no-seer, now can't. But, I don't think that any the 5% of the people formatted a low-nive. And that's how, what is the process?

Instal the application? It's an application like CD-Riser. If it's called, you know, it's not much the time that's the time that's the time

that's for that people get to make sure you because you know there's a formato rapid, I'm tired of 10 seconds,

but no, it's allho like the tablas and like the indexation of the whole memory.

But if you want to a single, a disc d'clock for putting to put an example of a

tiby, a lot to talk the time the disc. So the people like the people do you

like, like, I'm going to spend time to time. I'm going to I'm at a rapid and just

it's too you're trying that someone that's that's that's all the information of what you did.

Even in a cellar also can't any kind of any kind of some case where there people of

people important not be artists presidents, politicians, no see, of that that has passed this

type of cases, of that they thought that they had no they're they're

they're someone like you, acceded to your account and retroceded the time

and got a photo, not some video and pome he put him or he simply he's

extortioned to the person not accedo to the money that he was that's ah

well, well, there's not not with computer forensic but for example

to a Gial and Clinton he he went to in the campaign that

they were those people they were the emails, that were the

email in where they were things was quite too

too Where was she? Gila, Clinton, in the United. Okay. So, she wanted to launch like to be president. And for that's not yet, he didn't

participate. Yeah, no he got him. Yeah, no, he got him that was about that she was going to be

these famous ceremonies where there are the people. So, they catched on that thing, and

he was back back. It was they were about in a kind of a species of a

different, referring to as the pay, at what are going to serving the pie and

no-se-k-ke-k but they're referring to a, a-neous. That co-sci-n-n- The lot, the net.

The politicians do you know, the other day, well, yeah, you know, I think it

was the year, the year, I thought, a lot of, a person that has a person who has

a lot of people, and he said he, because he said the talk, of,

oh, oh, oh, where, who, who, who, who are the most

they're the most they're or they're your hauler of promotion and all of that

because in his management many influencers to that they that they they're

that they they're they're so and the not the politicians

because the politicians know because the politicians that we we're we're

we're we're we're we we're we're that of,

of, the, of the work, I'm at the way, yeah, say,

to be, to the people, say, also have to have to have because they're

a power under us then. So, there is like, ha, ha,

or, we're, we, because, for the simple of the fact,

that are the they're the people? Well, I don't I'm not so I don't

I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I mean, I mean, I'm no, I mean, it's a person

a president, I'm sure a chequeable. A one person of security public, also, I'm really hakeable.

I mean, they're at a level, well, of what they're doing to do do you know, and at the

money public and the security and the security of the information, not so, I mean,

I'm, they're still, they're doing to do that's to get to get to in their

people. But, more they're more than, they're maybe the person, it's maybe like, well, what I have I?

That's what I'm going to be important to hackyar? Or if they want to hackyar as a political and I am of the top secretariat, well, they're going to get to the accounts of the secretariat or the

page of the secretariat, and that's what they're to hackyar. But, well, you can't interest a video my, but it's precisely where they're

the information personal. I think that we all we're we're not we're going to we're going to keep, or we're

we're going to keep, I'm not a single person that no I don't have a secret. And as a lot of... But in the telephones.

In the phone. Yes. The fact I don't think no, I think no, I think there's a one single person that, that's,

that I don't have anything to know what I'm not going to be a situation sentimental, but it can be an email that you've been

to the company, a more you met to be a thing to be a lot, a good or preference that

you have to you have to have you have to you have to you, but we all we

We all we have some a certain life private or certain things privateitas that we're not that's all right. So in that part I,

the politicians no, I'm like like they're like they're in like we we're going to and we're so we're

a person who we're doing to who at a little bit of and a lot of you know what I'm seeing me impression is

how they're with those famous votes. For example, you enter to a manioner of the presidenta in

YouTube And you try put something like the pege is a tonto for put

one example, no. And you're to get to make a commentious to do him,

we're we're doing that that person is called Katrina Nortena that

he's from San Miguel of Guant of Guant and the and the

not the nomin of Morena they're they're like they're like they

they're like another person in where he doesn't $160

$1 $0 $0 $0. because every every other every retive social

you're in against the particular that's in front they're in like a million bots more saying no

no it's not it's we're the comment so so whatever anything

that's a particular you're a little you're doing you're doing this they're

doing this day they're this day there's there's a different states to do a

comment negative of 8,000 bots that are saying up the quarter of transformation,

vivable my god, so there's no, there's no your comment so it's a question,

and the my one is real, the people, the people, the people, the people, or what? It's illegal.

The bots? The bots, yes. It's supposed that the networks said, the,

the duke, the one of the ex, he was, he was, And every there's more votes

in this social, but that's a great fallacy or is a great a great

I'm know that it's a business of the social also. Yeah,

it's it's like those that they want to send people, that you

want, that your publication, that's and the thing, that's there's a

way, that's so I see it so I'm and at the maybe you

can't say me that you can say, and the why, for

when you when you when you promotion a song and you

put a promotion on TikTok, promotion on Facebook, promotion on YouTube. A me it's me

that those are even that you're even that you do you. If I'm, if I'm explained?

For example. Not so not so it's like what organic and what is organic. When you

you pay you pay you pay you payed for anuncius always you're you're

you're that if if you get in persons real is for that

you can your product so you do it's the function of an nonciar it.

But no no, that's part of not it's not a bit of bots. You think?

You think that not put them no, I've seen, I know,

but it's the only part real that there super car no.

Yeah, very car. It's carisima that promotion, way.

For example I'm I'm I'm took you, verga, this way,

this way, why he's why he's He has many comments, tantas and many

like, and I'm and I'm to see a bad, oh, the borgue of promotion,

well. The person has got many videos in TikTok, but they're up to 150,000

likes. Oh, they're going to get some a lot. Chingo of money so.

Well, I did I'm I'm how, I'm how can't say,

like, I'm to say, to a video, and it was to generate a

like 70,000 vistas. And no or it or he goes but no generated likes well,

if at a case 50 likes and you know, and now to that person boy, how'd

have invested? No, well, so a lot, I think for example if you

could you want to 100,000 likes, we have to invest approximately about 30,000,

40,000 $40,000 $40,000. It's a little It's It's very Really Fugate

My actor Right Right we're We're talking Of various Tams No With

With The book And And This We don't We're We're

Of the Anonymous Wee That's a Yeah Really So it's There's

and any way he can you can't you know does that you know I'm sorry

not so I'm not the same but I'm it's the same different person always because ah no

well so you so up something that's up you're just you're you're gonna

you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna putte the so you so they're because the

voice never never comes yeah that's that's Distortioned. Well, Anonymous is more like a

movement. It's originate of the movie of the VEDD Vendetta. It's a movement hacktivista.

Hactivista means hackier for a purpose. It can be a fin political or it can be a fine

anonimus is very meted in the war of the war of Palestine. So there many hackers

that are pro-Palestina and they get to hackkear pages of the government of

the government of Israel and a a lot not just that's not much

in the news because they're they're they're in they're they're in

they're because, we're going to the war, we're going to get a kind of that you're

that's that's that that's not really that's ultimately in the society.

No, to come to get to risk in the marches no, that's there's

there's a pinche bomb, no so. For example me took

to be a video. No see in what it was

way but it's something of a that they were doing

an camp way, where they were like a kind of kind of there's like there's

there's no, no, no, what's it. What's the you say, what's what I'm

me say? What's what he's what? What's, yeah, was a manifestation,

yeah, but I know that are very aggressive and really this group of

anonymous is in various things. Also, also the Russia contra Ukraine also.

But the problem that we have is that it's a collective and really it's the finality of hackyar

for the politics, you know, Anonymous pro-Palestina and Anonymous pro-Israel You're anonymous

pro-Russia and anonymous pro-Ukrania So, is a movement that, that's a momentably

from our point of our hackers I think that we've seen that has been

that's deteriorate a other the concept original, that's like,

but every one's put a player of the lot of a maskera

and one's for the team rojo and one is for the team

and then then they they're they're they're they're not we know,

so we don't have a bit where really really really a finality

beneficial and that you're well, we're we're to put to

we're to or a Palestine or we we we

We support us to Russia or we'll we're going to our movement will be able doing whatever person who want to put the maskarita

that not mean it's like who's doing and they're in a very disorder. What is what is what

is what is the way and so many hackos nationales hackos international agencies

important and is that they're they're in anonymous but in reality it's

is very deteriorated the movement any any it's a situation

in filia, no, and that they can't my data, if you're

my membercyia, I'm a know, well, I'm a person who I'm not in

a movement, yeah, is of an anonymous. And so that creates a grand level of

control. If there are there do you have a lot of people,

I've done, but really the assont is that is that really, so really whatever person

does what want to the famous maskat. Some things negative a lot of

the hacktivism that's where it's where it's going to see acts of cyberterrorism when they're things negative

one thing there's a thing that was a worm a virus that's called black energy that served

specifically for making upgones in plantes of energy electric that's that's

he's he's and he and he had had problems and then have created

virus specific for has disruptions have another virus

for example that's Stoxnet, that was to attack plants of energy nuclear in Iran. That is like imagineate that

Trump let me make a little a lot of an idea, oh yeah, well, you know, I don't want to

you dobs nuclear, you know? But what's the way that a virus for the centrifugas

truenen and now you're just you're not you're not a plant to use. nuclear of Iran.

And so it was like dismantled the plan nuclear of Iran. All the verga, loco.

What's what's what? What has been the plan of hack-eo more impressive

that you have talked to know? That you said you to me impression where where

where where can get a hacker? Well, I think this ultimately

that they are doing to do do plant purificator of water

and they subured the levels of toxicity for the water were like a veneno

for the people. They subbed the levels of the formulas then

contaminated the water and then they were they were they were doing a puti were

to do that this not so I'm so so I'm the hackers negative

are going to understand that can be terrorists that is something that the government

should be able to put attention. But, way, how, way? How, how?

So, is incontrollable that madre, boy? To what I can't put systems more specific

I'm going to put a example basic. I'm we're using we're not, and we're

using Microsoft Windows. No, we use Mexican Windows. So, so,

so, so, for example, China has a system operative specific,

based on a BCD, that's a software very endurized. So, those so

they're not to do things of mission critical. For example, here PMEX, the CFE,

all that type of places, I'd to operate to operate to that's

like, no, no, the intervention military and that the Americanos

and that you're to use first, something, it's not that not were

to be a lot to the day that they're to be the day that but there

a clave secret in all the windows installed on your computer with Windows in the media. All the computers that have Windows installed,

there's a clave of the National Security Agency that's used for you to get to your computer

remotely. This is it implemented after to Vin Laden after of the 9-11 for

motives of security national. So, like any country that uses

software that not of them, in whatever moment they're on the switch.

So, I think we're to do software local, implementer measures and over

to know to understand that for the cable of the red or the internet can't get to

get to any not only the people that you have you and the people

who are not a person who a russo a cuban a peruan in that we have we

have we don't know we're in the equatorian well incapaced to try

to try to a base of data, obtain information. So all those these questions diplomatical are in the

red. So, many times what you see in the camp of battle, the wars that you know

with fosiles and that not see with metragetas, the are you, and the are sure,

the thing, to the great apagone, that no, we know, we know, and we're

not we're speculamous in the back world, like, the energy not can destroy,

so it just So, that's it was a more it was going to to bring

an intelligence artificial, or I'll bring an computer quantical, or I'm

doing a other other side. So that energy for something was used to

because the things not get and that does it get a not to say,

that's I'm a ridicule. There was a tweet that I really really the

question that was the Selenski the person that was a car

of Ukraine in where said he he I was I was

my team of response incidentes for that he did the checker because

we've suffered many attacks of the Rusos for our plants

of energy electric like saying could be a cyberattake yeah

better they're that no, that was a calentam that was

the calentamiento global if me me I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm was a superattack but to have said this publicly,

would have done that's active to the Uttan that would be a consequence direct to

Russia and what what he really the world in general is that

they're to put the clas and yeah was the

India had bombarded a last before the India

bomb Pakistan he took to say to say that

not but we don't but we like what

what what what what they what of that other country

can cyber attack to it's going to something something that's that you say if you're if you're

to get to the American us dismantel a lot of people who's let's make it let's make sure systems of

semaphors all the systems escrow of mission critical all of things today. Berga, we.

I'm plas a buttoncito or what? For them for them as agencies of security national

that have the people, for them is a thing of a reason. And we need we

need to because the North of Korea has a cyberarmada like a so people

that's there to get to to attack the other people. They say say many

of the operations of virus of ransomware where where they're much

Bitcoins if it's it's it's finally for plans nuclear

or is it's for many things negative that we know so we

know so it's like the great lavator of money if you

want that I'm when when he started when

he started Bitcoin I say a weird way

that weird man but way to all all

all everything has everything has always the the trekkers that they

called before. All has been physical, the money, money, all, way?

Because now they're saying they, ah, no, it's a new digital.

Or crypto-divis. Well, because in reality, if it's well, the concept, the concept

was like, with the time, not transport your billets, because, so they

don't, or something they can do it can be a money, that is a

centralized, and not depend of a bank, called a Bitcoin in a

initial, and it's with things with things, and it before you buy this

you're about a lot of a bit of a million of a money, so it was a

money that was very over-e but because because it's

a red that is all the time managing the the transactions

that the other the internet. For put you

a example that the Bitcoin consume like the

a state of of the state of the Republic of the Republic of Mexican in but only for

to maintain in Bitcoin the transactions so like that capital energy is that

that's something that something has that has that has to a 100% with a

thing that's saying blockchain so let's you you can't you can't to make

for that that's that no way that someone that's I'm saying

I don't I don't I don't you know I don't I'm not that's no, it's a

world of the Bitcoin, all has everything has that's it's for that's not that's

people who are to get a to get a, where to robar this type of divises and then they they're localizing

the account, but if you can't know to where the money. And so they're going and so you're

going to be the Bitcoin. Well, to be, suppose you know, you know, you know,

yeah no will exist the money physical, how, if you know, how is that that's the

money is that's that's and it and it does it does that more than

they're more than the concepts of value. And, all you was sedimented in

or the people or the, the the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the people, they had to have to their

reserve in And in based to that is to do the expeditions of divisers. In this

case, the bank of Mexico has also the new bank of not the new bank It's like a

moda, but really not is that's reemplasing the money or that you not be based

in the we're doing other type of other other things. And that's, how it has to do you

get to be, so there's there's a day that I'm saying, accept Bitcoin, accept Bitcoin, accept Bitcoin.

So, it's like a passerela additional and the people and the people make that's

but there many other divisas and many have been precepted for crypto-staffas. I

I'm just I suggest to the person that you know they're

that they're not in Bitcoin or in aterum in a case of that's

to get to get to get to the coin, that's you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, there's there's there's yeah, yeah, and cataloged

as, frauds, yeah, yeah, that, no, a-verger, we,

no, I don't see to be to be about the thing this of this of

the money, invivert the money and I'm going to start doing

a month I'm in a year I'm going to pay you go to get to

the percentage that you talk about and the yeah it's like it's a money in

effective but that they don't know what with that money with with that money.

I don't know if you know, but we've got to explain to the two points. The part

benefic or good crypto-inversion. So you metes there, for example, $100,000,000 and you can't change, to give it to them, and they're going to like the graphics. It's very similar, like to invest in the bolsa, of what

money will be up, because they can study, like, all those picos. So I know that tomorrow will be $20,000, at least 20% in that moment, or the change of divisa. And if you can, you can, even with robots. But there's a thing negative, that, the fact, there's a goodenical

to be able to understand and get to get to get them as a ross or people who get to get to the divises

that's a Canadian's and then it's then it's then it's over dollars Australianos then it's

also it's how they're going going on percentages for these changes. In the the world of the crypto divises

is very very similar. So there there's there's there's a but we've observed that

the 80% of these these sites is to robart me took a

case very, me a person and I'm to the officeina me to

say, oh yeah, what you think I'm my money and had

invested about $300 million and the money and the

money and he had invested all $300 million in that

and I get I get I I obviously I have

some report the sites on the things And of one that I enter I said,

no you can't enter this because it's reported like phishing or it's reported like false. I'm saying you're just

they're just to robing your money. No, no, it's not it's still my user and

my signer. And there see that says that I'm saying that I'm trying that for you

get those 400,000 or 500,000 $50,000 in a account. Because it's like the security or

the guarantee that me they're going to do for that I can't retire the

money. I said, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to you're

to get to get a $300,000 you, you know you're not

to be a new they're even, even knowing that I know, I'm

just confiating of my testimony, that I'm my machine I'm a hacker, expert,

he's a city of fishing, yeah I'm checked is a piece of

the right up and up but it can be programmed precisely because

they're So, you see that the platform you're doing there's a million every year and that's

still up your money. But not is real. In a moment that they do cash out no serve. And we know

we know that we are people who are people that are even in the United. There are many groups

like the India that they're doing much. As you the fraud as the call centers,

in the India, it's many that's money to be able to be

the crypto divices. How they're how they're the call

centers? Well, the reales and the, those we're talking are those we're talking about are five,

six persons and you're going to make those, you're doing, you're doing, you're doing, here in Mexico, he's passed

to any person, to me, to me, every day, no, they're getting to get to time to get to

how you're to get my data, how you've my telephone, how you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, they themselves agarra. And a base of data

telephonic with a million of telephons of Mexico registrated and verificated for only

$7,000 pesos. Ah, borgia. So, seven- pesos and all right,

so they pass to the consenter and they put to mark as like, until

they're on some cell or cause some stuff. And if there's that's

this, all the day, to all the stuff. A-Ber. Oh, So, so, that's so I

so you, you know, you know, you know, contractors a 10 people that obviously they have to

say, what's the thing? No. No. No. No. In the

last, that they did you're a redada, the Auropol and detour two of those call centers,

uh, he said, what they were doing, because no they'd never they're in recesso.

A basis, that's, so the conditions still that, the, uh, the

work were inhumanes. It was like all the day yamma, all the day yamah

some little work, or even when when they was doing, they're on the top of the

table, and the next turn to to continue marking. So, so many know that

they're doing things illegal. Okay. So, then, then, so,

you say, you're, you're, you're, they're, they're they're in deep web

or where the world superficial, that's not In the D-WEP. In the D-WWap, in the D-Wap, also in the D-W-West,

but in telegram or in some site fraudulent. You can put them like a simple buskage of Google, so,

so, database number, phone numbers, and it's it's a base of data, the data, of the United,

of Mexico, and you get- and you get- and you get-as- like, $10,000, $20,000. No,

pass-to-you- and with millions of registers. Anim-a-Mark-Mark- but the the job of what is, what is to do?

For example, I'm a officeine illegal, tan, 10 people and we're the base of data of all the telephones of Mexico. Okay, mark and

what's the can't, can convince to the people that they're in some some other do say to

to say to the people to say to the computer is infected, this is goodissimo. But they

they say, we've been detected a virus in their computer and now the technical

is going to get remotely to help then it can be false

help It can be intents of like invests so all it's like a

thing and that you're like you you're going to get a benefit

and the more new that we're doing that you're that's because you have

also you're making a call of a uned with a

other with a other other other really what they're trying

is that you you are you because something

something is very negative and how the bank could

authorize this thing that's really really really a lot

but your firm is your voice you're you do you

do you do you do you do I'm in you with you know

so so someone someone someone and clon my

boss and and say actually actually I'm so this

then from I'm using I'm those new models

that are going to start to so it's is good

that if you know the number, no contested the call and more if you are doing

things like to get your pattern of your patron Tant to at a level of orita, then you

to say, no, but it's not, it's a really to a virus in your

telephone, a virus in your computer, oh, I'm, I'm not, because that

that's also, that's also, so there's also, that the executive,

the bank, has been registered those the best clients, where they want them and they

can't with these type of people has an officeine illegal, they pass the data and

do it, and you can create, because I know that's information is. And boom, and ballista

Camote, he passes to the NIP, okay, and they, they're doing, they're doing, I'm going to

rob a man. Let me do you. And then what's doing? That's the money, they can't recover.

No, no, the grave problem that we're, well, the bank are the

bank's been to be a market, he pays, or as a bank can't

say, awas because there hackers and if you you put your nip or you put

for there your number then you got you got you and they're not we do you

know, so they're so those are some purer recommendations that for me are not that they're

because they dependen of much culture informatic so that you you let you say

a a boulita of a guy that the antivirus and not get in the

phishing or The fact, the bank would have to have an incentive, or in really persecutor these people or to do make a persecution of these sites

negative, on the, on the, so, me, it's me make me, it's very, if I'd

show my computer, that I can't do it, I'm at the time clonor, any type of bank, the care, the best of,

Bancomer, Vanamex, Santander, the page that you want, Two minutes. Two minutes I have a

second I'm just a lot of put it in the exterior. But to put it in the exterior and then it's very easy.

And then then I'm to send a URL a cortada, like these famous, then you

never you're going to see the URL that you want to be a banner like you're going to you're just

you've got to get a new to $50,000 oh car interesting. Where? Where?

Where? Where? Where? Why? What's I'm looking I'm

the engage, the click. But, no, I don't to say, like, you've

been to the question, or something, no, something to do you

get to get a $50,000 pesos. Ah, well, I'm, I'm,

look, that, click. And they're looking that, the click acesino,

like I the click negative, the click maldito, that you you're up you're

you're gonna you've done, even, I've said, I've people, of companies

political, persons of education superior or with university and I'm I'm just

I'm just I'm going to let me have explained that I'm explained that the hackers let me

click one of a attended a group of gasolineers yeah in Leone Guantuato

and result that they metion in a page false of Banamex

and they they're they 150,000 pesos so in a huge, boom.

And when they were going to be about it and a lot of that's very very strange, but much

people are to associate to those who are when they're when they're not even infecteded the computer,

because they said, what computer is infected? I said, no, you're infected the router.

So, all those people, all the pages that are all the things, are going to

get a form of directly the router. Mm-hmm. we're just we're thinking that

not more infects the computers or the cellulares but also the routers also the

cabro it's a way it's a thing super sensible that is the reality

and that the people have to be to get to get a right

I'm a very perrona. Very good very chance little that's what is the

bank electronic with major security in in the in the

in the in the in the the Which is some gigantesas of the

people more powerful of the world? Well, that's the majority is the bank of Panama

and the people still still exist a bank on the island. I know that it

is a film but still they're in this type of situations

and many not manage the bank electronic. So, so, what are

those are the bank most those those that don't they manage

portals digital. So, those that the interaction pure

physical, that you have to to your bovada, you're a little

a new with your identification, people, their money, in Panama, the Islas Cayman,

places that are in the way are there really don't have any of interaction

electronic. And if do you recommend you more? Well, I think to the

answer the people. So, we can do we do we do much care of

what you do you do you get to the protection black. There are

two, three targets in certain bankos that have like

the protection anti-fraude. And the new is that the new

the other targets of credit that's generating they're getting like the numeration physical, but you

like a code QR, then you make it's to the application and you the auto-generas every

that you're to buy. Like the famous virtual cards or digital. Then you generate you

like a target in your account, but it's temporal. When you you're

you're you're that you're that you could be recommend to the people.

That's their trade and them don't they use. In Dado case of

that you're going to cause to get to get to buy you a cargette of the

most basic like the and put it just the amount of the you're going to you

then you you're with the custom a custom that is to have your

money in effective and well that's not they don't they're

not you do you do But the or what? Well, the world

always sub over but the world is the problem that's the entire, well,

the people, the people that have many people, to buy a money, and you know in a

car in a car in your house, or joys, but if something that is something,

that's a physical, for that you don't get a, but if you just like, an,

um, how's it says, well, right, I said that a word, that's a

monopoly, where. There's a monopoly where you know you can't have the pinche

money in physical or a great quantity, because if you do you get a get to get, and the

money, the majority of the best one one is one is one per one per one per

you know the you have to mochartes for you so you don't know it's like it's

so you have to see, yes, so even even, so even, just to

you can't just can't a certain quantity of money in dollars. So, if you passers with five or six

lingottes of hour, no they're so it's also a problem very negative. No, I think we

don't we to spend us to the economy digital only if as you, as a future,

make a time to make a time to the bankos, like, oh, put more security,

or how it's possible that they can't clonar so the and so because you

do you do you do this things that are affecting the people. Because

the police cybernetic doesn't know. That's some serious. Today the police cybernetic

only does prevention also that's a really a lot of so you do this and this and so we see the

public cybernetic take care because there many depredators in internet and it's

like no you're you're the line of combat you're you want to

get to get to the sitals to get to arrest those

not to not do flyers What is the mission Maching Gona that you

has been done you to do well? Well, I think we're in many problems with persons malicious in

internet, but many groups. We've played against a group that's called a Losh team

that we was made in another group that was dedicated to robar Codas in the

Salvador, also a group that was a group that's called so we're so we've

played as like a kind of 3,000, 4,000 people. What I've gotten to the odio

of that people and you're going to put a example negative that's we're going to get into problems

with a quat with a offline, that was Colombian. He was he was

a lothtim with a group of criminals that's they're to hacky to hacky

to social that's that was that's their thing so I'm so I'm so I'm

I'm put the those pages. Those pages they were they're they're

like, oh, yeah, who's he's he's he's this, because the

role, and the grave error, I think there's a bit about

a bit of a good. One of the things is that I wanted to show us to do

us and we're to bring to try to and they're chelos they're

there's there's on doing things things and doing

things don't I'm just to justices and every

page they're they're they they're they they've done to

do you know groups of telegram those I'm in the deep web and they're a page

in the deep web then I'm a new web that's name of Thor's a hammer that's like the marty and I

gave a rastrada and they destroyed a site in the deep web that they they're something so they're something

so they're so many hours a little for those for those purposes that seem

not be not be not sure because the only that I'm is that many

people frivolous or normal now, they'd have they're the networks, yeah no they're not

they're in the their accounts personales, but there's that's not that you're and they're that you

don't me hackkeated? No, the contrary. What happened with this Colombian that's called

offline? I'm a botnet. Botnet is a, for you to get some idea, are like

if you have a centenar of equipment like 200, 300, machines connected

to see internet to all the power of internet and all the petitions for second against your server or your

page. So, as you're like those in the Casa or they're like the like those of

the government because no there's no no nobody that's nobody that's nobody that that's

that's a person who's me started to attack my site diary diario I was

I was I was I was and I'm what I'm what you what's the page?

No, no see. We're attacked. All the days, all the days

receiving attacks. I have pernities economic grave for that situation. Because if

my site web, that is my portal of the then I don't have nothing.

It's like they'd the pay the pay. It's like no there no me

and the money. It's a thing. It's I don't know I'm more experience in

prevention of attacks than the police cybernetic and the policeis cybernetic and the business.

Because not I'm like like a company that I'm more like an organization where many people can

participate. And for do the well, so the odio of the people and that me have

made me me have made amazas of murder many, many, mandating to doxia to doxia

to doxia that's like to doxia, this is your papa, this is your mom.

Like, like to simply generate you know, like, if you you're really,

you're in, but to be what you're going to your mom? And where one is, oh,

yeah, and then I'm, and, and, so, I'm, that's, that's,

more, I'm, I'm, they, or don't know. But, never, to get to

to, do, or if, they, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm of Mothers were really

because they were like with the voice and they were like with the pistol here at the

side. I mean saying my name and many times and one they were a person

like to take a photo in the door to my house so we know we know we

we're just we're and this comes of the hackers negative or those crackers as we're

those hackers negative and they're they're just in your house. So if

you don't have the mentality Dura, free for what you're going to do you do this,

I've done. I've had been I've been I'm, you know, I don't want,

yeah, I don't want, it's a great, what you do do you, but I'm to do you,

first is my family, first is the past me the bonito, that not me can get to

people, because just only only alliados that I have to say

to say things in the pages. Like, like negative as to put to put on

a example if you're to get my adversaries like to do you do you do you

doves the video of Dr. Loppes, ah, is a tauto he's a

tachier a hacker malo and like a two, or five million comments

if you can't you can't you know, no manches, I mean, you know they've been

a quote and then then I'm think that's that's that's living

every days with, I mean, it's not no it's going to say my

work. But never to get to the point that because to do really

do you do they do that for so to say it God not want to

but that that is that is that is possible but I so I can't

say that I can't I'm I'm so I know that I'm that's

my family know, of the to do you know the group of no, no, no, no, I don't let's ask you to the GERDA, nor the Guardia National, or the the fiscalies, nor ask you, I said, what's the same, I said, I'll be able to, I'm going to say, Contra

who put the demand? I would I'm going to do you know, but

against someone against someone of the telegram? Contra against Lachteam? Contra

M45-37? Contra a knick? No, I don't know. To say, what's what you

want to to do that's not not the way. No, there's

that I'm you can't you play with some hackers of internet. So, that's

that's that's that the law. So, so I that's that

situation to, with with the and be very pre-cabiding to not in zones

that may have been a problem or to go to be a carmone a carmone a small someone

armed or and it's a quote never cabar no, between hackers there's there's

there's what methods you use to do you to protect to all the people that you

want to do you think that the offensive we use we use a

technique that's when you you me attack when you do you do you

do you do you something I'm in so I sometimes I'm what I'm provoked a little

the abispero so I'm think that people are doing something but always

they're very bad disorganization we we're we're we're

we're we're more more tactical so so I I'm

I'm I'm a I'm into one of the the

cabes and I try I'm I try those they're just

I'm I'm trying to I feel that's what is what we have they're going to who's

you're doing no, well as the police cybernetic they're they're saying

the boy or the group of the hacker of Hector or how me I'm

and so that you don't manches that you're that they're that you don't

they're not you're it's easy it's it's it's easy to turn

a it for for us I'm I'm I can I'm

I'm I'm platforms, also the same of the zombies, I can't

get a one of the two years, they're in five seconds. No, there, no,

there's nothing that resist. If it's been a bad-intentioned, in the other than

these pages of fraud, or that's a page, or so, I'll, put the

page of the bank of Mexico, it's a commission national bankaria, it's

the Cade, the SAT is, what whatever can be to be in five seconds,

no, nothing resiste that type to a Pemex also also the

virus like a coppel to robber to robbered all the information and if you did that's it's done

to get to get to get the work because Pemex even the people know all the docts

of Pemex are totally controlled volumetrically so there there's not there not know

Pemex that for there's me are going to get millions of a little bit of a virus

ohie what happened with the two years of the volumetric of the magnate

and the premium. No, well, they're they're oh, yeah, that the pressures of

there's even to get to get with that information in where there was more pressure,

less pressure, at what hours, in what zones, to be to be a

particular and then to be a person to be a people, that he

are exactly that's more difficult, it was more than it's more that's more that the

guachicoleo or that he I've Perdi the information also

the information too. We've offered us our help free of the money because we're

we're not we're not we're to do this so I'm to say to live a voice that

there's a weird because of that you don't want to and that's

we're we're we're not we're we're we're we're just we're

that we're that we're to let's there's there there's there's

that there was that the guard national and incauto all

that that keep of computer like if it was a pistol,

like if were an instrument of the delitio. So, they were new new computers.

So, so solution, no, the problem of Pemex. Any even, they were

a revision a detail. It was more of those computers, and then they're not

new computers, no, that's now, that comes to do you to do you know,

and the people, we, we, reality, well. Yes. Only you

like you, persons like people like that all is digital, then you, you know, you know,

you know, you know, that's not, a bit more, a bit more, you know, you're going to get a

way, but. Correct. Every other, we're doing we're not we're totally monitored, we're all,

we're not, we're a group of a group of a group of the system of so, no, that's not the

that hackyed any any any any a any a quack

a or a arme if you're a or no I'm guard

ba my my my myrmes oh I feel

my my my my matry me met the

mat me decap the he the what? Well

for there a tracito he he he asteriskit oh

no well there another question my boy. There's the

what is the country with a major index of the information? With

with exactitude I don't know what of Latin America but Mexico

figure between the four places. I imagine I way. In

Latin America we're we're very the first America is the

United the Spain also also also in the part

European one of the places more protected is Estonia.

It's the place that has the major cybersecurity of the world. But not the countries

can't figure much in this situation. So, in Latin America is where more it's where the

people maliceous they say that's a paradise for the cracking. For put an

example, it's like, oh, you're going to do you want to do you

get to Latin America and it's not there no police cybernetic they're being

menos. From here, that you catched, so we're in, like, here's a paradise or for the rob. There's much people that come. There's many.

There's many, that here are hackers that are you guys United or to attack countries European. Here's a lot hacker

Colombian. Much hacker of the Salvador, hackers Brazilian, also here there are in Mexico.

Because in Brazil, if they're more. And there many places that have nexus

with the interpol more more than here in Mexico no. Here in Mexico

is a lot of the interpol but for other cases more like a narcotrific really for

questions of hack-eo is that is that is the problem no there no there

other again I was again I'm do no there

no there no the people who's that's the I'm a met. I met to, I metto,

I'm a bank, mark to the bank, no? But, but never go to put a denunce to the ministerial public.

I go, for what? And the is that's real. Sim, I'm going to do the first I did

this. And the fact, it's for my ethics. But I deceptioned of what

I responded. I've had per a computer with information. As I'm a hacker, I'm working

for various companies. So, I said, I want report the robo of the computer

but not for me but if some of some information of there negative get to get to get to get a

responsibility because I'm to explain that's a problem yeah me they're almost to arrestar

because like you like saying like saying and what what's you're saying what or what

you're you're you're you of the codeos of what of the bank or

what more you more you're that you one a comp. Nobody does that no, because for the

information important that I'm going to have here. Then you go to do you know, I'm going to

be responsible of that fugue of information. And for that was to put the denunciate, no,

well, I'm saying, I'm being feor. Yeah, I mean, pinch

insecurity, no, or, or, or, or, or, to be,

what, so, so prepared they're so they're the MP or the policeia

to make to make in this case? It's that they have to change the mark

regulatory. There have been two three intents in the last years to

make a security but always it's going to be back right.

Today yeah is the Ceden now says in the

part of the attacks cybernettical but I honestly, I've to have

to be a policeies cybernetic and, I think to say it because also the people want to hear the

more than other thing, is denigrant the level that they're like, I'm like, oh,

where's the mouse, it's like, but at that the middle, oh, I'm just a matter of

a lot of a lot of a capacity for some for some people, and formatic and,

well, you, you'll imagine, as right about technical, for the person

that I'm listening if some phrases or terms of not the but if so I'm I'm doing

I'm sure to be the more transparent possible, imagineate, you know, imagineate, I'm saying

the day the next thing, hey, Ector, no more, we're just, what is the problem?

That's the don't you know, you know, you can't do more basic? No, you know, just do you

know, just you know, and then I'm saying a something, because that's something, because that's

security private, I can't say to what governor was, or what a governorer.

But I know what they're doing to do the police cybernetic, because the first I'm did, I'm

doing, I'm interested. I'm one of the one of the first hackers of Mexico, let's

give the best things the way to do you do you? They're in the internet, if they're doing the

people, there's what they do a day a day? There was a silence, total. And then

And then the hour of the food, he a commisary of the policeia,

of my group of training. And me he said, Oye, we want to let me.

I'm, I'm sure, how we do we do we can do this page of Facebook

that's about the person? So, you're you're just you're just there's

to turn to put to the opposition? Or if you have a what

what really happened in Kuliacan, what what's really

happens in the state of Mexico. Oh, Tirm that's a page because

they're saying that I think I'm a lot of I'm a lot of when I know I'm

know I'm know the I'm not, I'm not I'm going to say that I'm not I'm

so I'm so I'm so I'm no no, so I'm they're I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm a so I'm so I'm so much I'm a million

Pits a a page a page Facebook. But if I said, I'm grante, how, that no more want to try pages of people, or

of a report of a citizen. And they're in contrae the government, for those serve the police cybernetic. Or, for

to look, people of interest, a activist, a person, that, that's, that's about the government,

for that that's not the public, that's over, man, or so, all, all,

too, so, but to keep rivales political, is a force of intelligence for

what me stormed, as president or as governor because no does nothing for the

city of the community. The ultimate that are in some the states is

capacitations specific for the unities of anti-secuctor but but it

not gets not there's not exactly if I've seen that has done

the more of that the people that has committed

that that they've they they've they got a fulano

because in the 2020 he's of that delito that in the that they're in

a domicilio there were there's there's and they're a three I've seen because they're in

the trage coffee, no? Yes, it's a new thing that is sent to say it's that you

know, and they're when you get to people, but they're not a hackier,

so that's not so that so they're not so they're so it's something that's

open source intelligence like to use the intelligence of the internet or the

funds to make a result. But it's a method of investigation policeial based on

something but they're not they're they're they're not they're not they're

not so you know, to get to to investigate with who he's we know we know

we know we're we're we're not doing those do you can't

do you can with facility with facility obviously have to have to have taken

desplegas that's what we're what we're a police to do a future. That's,

has to have a hacker, but I'm to go to my equipment and responded for two

people, for if in some moment so I can be from the hotel or from the

location, neither I don't have to even have to start so because I'm

the famous antenas pringols or antenas the long-al- so I'm so I'm

to be two, three kilometers hacking something with a with a team specialized

or to send a different from a group with a group of people and I'm I'm

not, I'm not I'm didn't know I'm wanted to when I'm when I'm

working for Michoacan that could go to the family Michoacana and that

simply the drone I was I was put up on your location and me

he'd all the data of that information that's it's a it's a

it's a project that you have not not much. I can use any drone DJI of the

high-al but the signal and what you're going to do you do that's not because a little

raspberry. The Raspberry is a little computer of that way. For most the I'm not

I'm not I'm not to be right in camera. But it's a microcomputable of

10 centimeters that is a chip, I'm I'm going to get to to turn.

So it was to be to pick the drone with other type of sensors

and just to Aterized the drone, let's go. I mean, I'd get to all the

data of the malosos. Ah, la verga. But that project no, I did it light roja

for that project. Why do you? Corruption. Me took to be to a Viva,

fwente to a sergeant that was colludeidid. That me, no, I can't

say, no, nor no, but, but that he, I don't

that her computer had a software of software of monitore. And me I was responsible

to me of any of anything that's the thing to get a thing that's a lot of

people who people, and they're we're doing, we're doing, we're the people, the people who

had a good, intentions, that was the president and the coordinator of security public.

But so they me said, anything that's, Ector, for this type of project for

specialized, you know, that we're to do you want to do you're to do a clave

secret, which means a button rojo, like, to abort mission, and you

can do do you do you do you do we're doing it so we're so

we're going to get to do you do this and I get to say button rojo

and I'm why I'm poor I'm too I'm much I'm much to try no

no more mams it's like it's like it's like the gaff no the gaffe

no I'm just I'm just I'm I'm put a pergame met

and it went to eight years or I don't what What, what he said that,

that, you know, that's quite, that's the kind of, that's the thing,

that's that I'm under a monopoly, and if did what they were they were

they were there, I think, because a me, I'm a lot of a

under, I got to the bunker, and I'm see security, putte. What more that I

was, was detectors of arms, detectors detectors of metal, detectors of drugs,

but, but, know that one of us even with a cellular and a

a pair of chips can do a little so they're like that that's a part of the

hacker generate the tools in their time. I gotro I'm a project,

oh, how you do you do you do you know, I'm not I'm just I'm just a much

a machita and get to take it all this a mochilita and list ah that we

want to put in something more camouflageia because I'm can't

pass for that one a case a a recipient of tequila. Therein'

we put us all the chips and we we're up to have a car. And that car was used to

do you're driving, which is like hackier the rail lines inalambricas with the car in

movement and go and maping all. But are projects that one is a

very no, no there's sufficient. Because also they don't know I'm

I did know that it was interested that the publicia cybernetic was

being incapacitated. You think that they have the capacity to get the

batuta of the police cybernetic in Mexico? No. No. No.

Because why? No. Of that they're to call to call

to policeis cybernetics? No. I'm refer to this. A-

very, there are police cybernetic is that do you do you do you do do?

We're to nombrate to Mexico so it would be a

Hector. Hector Lopes? Encantado, correct? Yes, but, but they're the capacity? No. I think what was what was what I was when I was in the

Department of Intelligence of Morelia, that practically they were because they had to give to give a capacity. It's not

that we'd give much class, we need to give much a course, we don't know. So, that I'd have to get to give us

and give us trainingment specialized. But, no, no, for but you you could

with the package, but obviously giving the capacities the services all the necessary?

If I can if I do you get to get my question I'm a I'm a think you

have a technical of 13 hackers if they're to be able to let me get back but I also with my

people yeah prepared. How? How'd how'd how'd do you?

No, I don't know I mean I don't know that's a question if I'm an example

an example example also my company. That would be one of the conditions. Because I have

a one because I'm to get a primary to do you do this. My own is because I

do you do you do this. I'm not you know I'm not you do you do corruption or

something, I'm moving to do a project, me go to another state or I'm doing a

but I'm I do you do you do I can manage jeffes of unidad and that

they're helping to monitor all and so that's doing things software specialized

and to have all a raya and to give us a certain kind of

so, no, I don't say, what's she's not she's not a

question of what you have to their own their own their and they're patruyando by

this, I'm with a six thousand per a month. For you

for me are livers? Yeah, for me, only are to all the men of the most of the six.

Yes, for the those who are the people, those can, That is that they're, of the,

of the best, but that they're not, because that's a structure policeal. They're going to say that not, that's the academy

of policeia for a police cybernetic. So I, I, for that was the chief of the department of

intelligence, but not could be a chief of the policeies because only a commisary, are structures of the

mando very similar to the militia. So I think I should they're to obligar to that the

police cybernetic those have had a less graded of doctorate or of a masteria in informatic

because much no has any career of any licenseiates that a can be a architect and I have to be

to be a publicia cybernetic or or abogado and no no doesn't

get the profile you have tattoos yeah you have tattoos

okay we're to bring that part what you have tattooed and what

you do that you well, I can't see to be in camera.

This is a bomb fork. This is a code that if you put in a a screen of MS2 or in a

computer, does it does it circles recursive until the machine can't get to the

can't get a without a without a without a way of cancel it? No, so I

can't canceling so I'm like I put there like I'm to understand

to me to me to the what power that is the computeration or the

mathematics or the programation mal-structured that is like a line of code that's much done

that's much done. What is the glider. It's the symbol of the hackers as a

way. The culture of Eric S. Raymond. So it's like you're a hacker but

he has a certain manifest hacker. So I am a so I'm a hacker but

I'm the values, I'm certain things that are

negative I'm are negative I have this other

that that means human plus or transhumanism. Is that I think, and I have the strong conviction, that as like there are marcapazos, that really make a person

live time extra, I'm, I'm, I'm some additements that make you that I'm in my vehicle. As they're saying that the neuralink,

that's the going to put to that connectes to internet with the Cerebrough directly, have a good to have some chip

here to open the Quirtas of my house or to hackkear Campos Electromagnetic

or to put a peter that's that's a way, that's a man,

you know, that's they're going to do you if they're install that manada, boy?

Yeah. Because, or, or they're to have a range of a range of power or

a range of class social or because that is something is something that is something

if they're thinking in doing and if they're doing, is something that

we can affect to quite a quite I'm quite with I'm with I'm

with with a professor of history in that in that there wasn't

well if it existed the internet but very many many

many for example Metroflok Myspace no and the television and the

master way neta way but the bato enojadish, he said,

no, be in the TV, pinches and panche and panthejazz that's being a master,

and being pincereas pendejada and they're nacing, and I'm kept with that and I'm

always, I'm sure, I'm sure, and why you're, because you are in contra

the television? Well, tell me what you what you what things nutritive you're there

things novelas, all manipulats, and that all the thing, that's doing your ideas

in the head and well, the net I was I'm talking about I'm

I'm a I'm at the I'm I'm now I'm now I now the now I

but the but the the radio social is we the telephone how we we're

we're so we we're I'm I'm to say that I think it

is moment to put out way yeah because I'm if I

would be I'm to me, and I'm I'm dedicated to her, dude. Thank you God. I'm the

capacity of able to survive working on other other thing. But the socials

have been so much to do you, being a programmer, being a hacker,

seeing what you're, you would be that the social don't to exist

? Yes, but the internet no, separating that concept. So,

that disappear the social yes, I, those as instruments

of control of massas totally. And disruption and over there's a statistic that says that

I think the 20% of what is generated in internet in the social are fake news.

So, you're saying that Donald Trump he's got to buy to all of Bitcoin.

So, like Donald Trump, and there all the people, like, like,

like, and I know. So, the networks social if

functioned for the control of masses and the and the internet

why not you know? The internet no, because that's so I think it

was the thing that the thing you to make you to make a

message to to my mom and say, how is my? And for WhatsApp

that now we know we know it's it's sometimes to be

to make the SMS and every message was a message it was a

not? Because I, I see that the internet came to the, the, the, the,

for us like hackers, the internet is like an architecture, an entity. No, I don't,

I'm not a thing, that's a real. My internet, it's like all the computers interconnected

about one with others and that power of computer that makes only, if a machine

is a poweros, or a hacker is a like all the hackers of the world unidos

in the internet. I feel like that red of that red of connection is the way I would want to make to make sure

the reds. To be it's to get to me. In serious? Yes. Because they're enlazados

way. They're enlazated the reds with that because since the internet no can't use.

Or exists a form? Well, no. So, really, I can't to do

your own internet today. So, basically you can do you

do this public communication. For example in Cuba, I know for a friend who

is hacker and is programmer, that the government no it doesn't have to

have to their and they're their router and cable of here to here to here to come

a red underground for abh down to the water that works

that works that the public for so so I so, I see, I

think like the It's a connection. I mean, more like a system of communication.

And how Cuba not has, no, has cuted that? Ah, well, yeah,

because, no, if it's, like, it's like a red disruptive, so,

they're up the cableado, and only certain people have the routers,

and you you want to to get to a, that they've like, you're like, it's like,

to be anonymous, but in Cuba, for so so, but you know,

or they're limited, are, they're limited, they, in something. No, they're

very limited they're not going to get to get to the world. The

rest of the thing is the thing that it's all to change information, mandars and send us and then

and play videohuegos and play to get to the internet because of the plan no can

do you can't do that the internet is a porqueria and is totally censured

so thanks to the hackers that did like a red alternate to try

to try to give a little a kind of circumstances

So I see that. For me, the philosophy hacker has to do make a new acha. That's a thing to be in reality. How is a

move with a chaffo? It's a difficult, no? A pure sachasos to do a muele. I'm going to a siree a pure sachos.

How would make a little different? Like a a rotor. I'm a little, I'm not,

I'm, I'm a little quito the liquidora. Look, it has the little mechanism

and so I want to put to put to my car. Much you many people, like,

like like a Mexicanadas, not? We do we do something like chuska. But for us how I'm going to

do that I'm the other time I'm up to say, I'm going to see that there was a system of communication

between the passengers. It's like if I could exploit there something in the thing that I'm going to

get a messageito like, hello, the he's always that you're that you're

how did it so. So, if you could do you. If you could I think in two days

two days to do you the other the other tattoos okay this has to be

with the rito of York that is something that has something that has been with the mazonaria

this of this to be with the question of fraternita Saturni

is a question spiritual dedicated to the the

way of, as the sender or your part obscure. In reality,

we have part good or part of the own the own the own.

The other because I'm Pisys this of this of this of this to and well,

here I'm the symbol of Bitcoin and more above I'm the of anonymous and yeah

are my tattoos in the cuckoo you don't you c'cule you Bitcoin,

also. My account of Bitcoin for to make them to make a deposit.

Yeah, if you would be you know, you're of those fetches. Of that

put me a, no, a fetiche, a fetic, a lot.

No, no, I'm a tattoo in the fondio, but, but other

other thing loquita, but I think I, I would I, I would to me

would be to be to be to be and I say, no, you're

you're you're saying, you're we're going to imprint in 3D organs, that exists that possibility.

You're going to put in cellul as mother or you you know you don't have to put your and you're not going to be your

eyes, but you're going to be able to even through the through the or in 3D or with vision nocturna

clear, or if me said, you're going to you're going to you're going to get a that I'm

for me that for me that I'm going to always looking internet, always tecliando, I think that in best

to affect me life me other type of disblocking. What you

did you say, that's a very very good. I'm not I'm going to my particular.

So I'd say, I'm going to put in the case. And that's the code that's the

code. Let me let me see the code. I'll get it do that

do you do it. I'm going to get to get to be a to get to not put to be doing

after if you so they can't be they're just you they're

what they are what they they're what they're what they're memories false of the

people like that or a lot of know of it's a way to be a lot of

it's like I'm like you do you see the stuff you see the

the little I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm let's

I'm so I'm like a no I'm never I'm never I

never would maybe I'm obviously like you you but

like you but but I but but I but I'm

possibly yeah my my I want to see, Isidiski. I want to

see what I'm but if I'm going to change the code or something, I'm going to say this is

property, is private, or we know we're we're doing? Codew abirted or code or so?

So, no, is open source or I'm the way to modify and learn the code and learn the

code. Look, a video, where in TikTok, where where's where it's put on

or simply is something something is something something is a kind like a

like a like a circleit like it's you, you know, and you put in the

eyes in black and you relaxes so, way, but you know, you know, no,

no, no, you know, the, like, like, it's a, yeah,

like, it's a, like, it's a, like, it's a, like, a,

kind of, like, kind of, we, no, you, know, no,

no, no, no, no, no, man, way, so,

man, way, that's, so- they're like they're shit

a madre a bit shit relaxant I'm I'm that's

there's here this guy away shite oye ysete uh

okay but but it's exactly that okay agar okay

okay um impactant no see if it's not so if it's

fake I'd have to analyze If you're impactant Or so, they're like Like zombies Like a zombie They're

They're They're And they're And they're And they're You know You'd Do you

Do you? No No, I Don't me Yeah I'm No, I'm On the

If you're I'm Yeah, I'm So it's So I'm I'm I'm

I'm So I'm So I'm So But it's So That's That's

That Disconnected the reality. One once passing those seconds, you know,

you know, I'm going to what you're going to the chip. Because how I know they're not going to be my information

too, of my information too, or something. Yeah, way. Yeah, way. Yeah, yeah. I mean,

how's it's, how it's how it's a thing, what's what's injecta and what's, and what's come and it's

all the disputives of entry and the same, so when I pressio, I'm going to my brain, it's a

question, or something, or something, no, not mortifer, but if it's a substance that's a second thing,

I'd have to analyze what's exactly what he but I'm not I'm in contra of that I'm going to like evolution

some of the most extreme that's taken to be, it has to have to be with the intelligence

artificial in the future no if if you have notated that chat GPT Gemini

and all that you want are more humanas and every are more

personalized and he has yet to ask a model that if she she'd

like she would be I said, I'd like to have a body? Sure.

Me said, no more more than the problem, and I said, what are the implications, the rights

and the robots and the what is, what I say that's, then they're pre-diening

that there's there's a right, there's a robot very sophisticated that are those are

those who are the in the places to do the factura and of all,

the manufacturing, of all that's, it's is they're do the robots.

So there is a factory of Tesla that will be to functioned with pures and only

two, three humans adjusting to the androids when they're so they're

so what? And if we're going to that's that that's

that beautiful the evolution yeah but it does it's yeah

it's yeah because we're that I'm that we do you we're living

in a world in a we we're like you like Microsoft. Define that

he put on the Xbox and what you can't be and that you know what? Uh-huh. A bitate the sombrero, way. To govety.

To the sides. Um, gore, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm used, I use, I use, I use, I use, I use, I'm using, to give more like the

image of the hacker, honestly. Okay. And, but, but, uh, no,

this is, it's a sulito. Mm. Yeah, Azulito, like, no, me I can put red or black or or what it's a bit more common for the image. And that, well,

at level spiritual, you have to be a little bit more concentrated. And that not they're not as influences. We're going to pass a little bit of that time, boy. Okay.

For, I said, I'm going to do. And I'm going to enter because I want to share a little of what I a more in...

In my in my in my in my in my I don't see way it's not

that rare but I have perceived many things with the energy with the energy

good with the energy good with the energy good and and a maybe

they're to say ohny that you get to wait because

because you and you don't because you don't simply way is

something that I've questioned much and that I've known

many people that various me have like, like, like, like,

like, it's, like, they're, and that, that, that, I don't

say, way, how to say it, but I start to analyze more and

more and so, then, say, what, do you , do you,

what, do you that's from me to think, no? Dependient the energy

that you do to a action to a thing, a thing in physical, that is the

energy that you're going to receive. Correct. Why? Because practically we're

practically, we're going to put a little philosophical, and Well, because we've

made of image and so you have you have the power in you

and you we're doing we're we're constructors of our own I'm have to

see how what you do you do you do because we're

people are people or good or magos or mows or the

time no there's no there's or that I'll put the example more basic when they say, when they say,

look how me is that person, me's trying to mal a vibra. I was, look at you see that, I'm just feeling this inco- just for a mirada. You can't even

perversion, a mirada with a glance to do a year, a mirab with a mirab with a, a, a mirab of

astral, or energies of both worlds, and energies more blancast or more puras. How vibed in the

love, vibra in all that role. The problem is that many people are the people are the people who are the people who are like, no,

you're saying like, no, vibran in the love and be happy and so that's a lot of, I'm not, but there's a situation negative.

First, I'll resolve with intelligence and then I can't vibra again in the love. Tremor in the love is ignore all

what you pass. Yeah, but all we're but all we're really, I simply do just the question most basic and

you invite to all this in a house that they're in some I'm going to I want to be hacker, I'm going to be hacker. And years

after, I'm a hacker. But it's the first intention magic of, I know, I didn't know to be to study, nor to have a computer, and all what I was to get to,

and that's only until 15 or 20 years after it was to do that. But my invocation was, I'm that you

have passed too when you know, when you're when you're when you're thinking you on someone,

then you then you make a message or you mark. All we we have those powers disblocked

to do you to do a person or to do the bad. And all the we're doing. But way,

for that's the people that's like in depression or angustia and that's, all their life is

a little bit because you're like, oh, let now if not if now if now I'm going,

how that I get the carion? What's that the Uber no doesn't get

or me and you just you just you did you what will then you the universe

to do it's a I'm much of this exercise. I go, I'm going to pass a taxi. No, no matter. And then,

so the more not is that you really create the taxi and you know, if the universe is more relaxed and he's more relaxed and power and you

do you know, you know, you know, what you know, I've seen to get a person who's to be a

day next the next they're doing a therapy, a cocoa wash, as they're in the day the day

the next you're doing, all the mental, much more than what we think we're the things,

all of the feelings, and that's a certain but if you dole the legado is for something.

If you have problems stomachs, it's for something. We have seven in the

body. Seven. To the seven to the chakras principally. And then so, for

example, here you have the Plexo solar. The majority of the people,

for example, we're gorms, or that many things so, a

a little you have the flexe solar well that has to be able with your

so it's so a so a so you know like to not do you do not have your

more arraigated or be a little more apprehensive and for so you you know

the person the people that's in front of garganta also here there's

also there's I'm going to let's because I mean I mean

I I'm just I just I just so that he's that Hector

let's say a much information that basically it's

to get to where I do you that's what I have discovered, whey.

To be, way, how is possible? Why? It's difficult to understand

you me you're you're that you're that you're

okay but and the people that not the people that

that, that he know that can generate something negative thinking negative,

why he is that there's people, there are people, like what you know, and for

that people is important the energy parasitaria that is the that you generate

all the time. For that these people like the Illuminatis have

money infinite or they're to do you do all the time to do

you know to get to get to get a like, that's that you get that's

energy parasitory and so you're only you're only you don't

you so that we're living a time a very

that's many people are people and the system not

doesn't we know we we're so so we're

more a great reset in place that we are

spiritual and that we're we're the capacity of not vener a pap but you're your own

your own being a little so now now you you know, you've to do you

learn to you, you know, there's a place like the time that I'm sure, where the

people are that people say, no manch, I'm too I'm I'm a woman,

I'm doing the TikTok and passing kilometers of the there. There's

a studio that says that a person can to go more kilometers with

the dead today, that's the what is going to be going to their life. Kills and

kilos and Kills and Kills of Kirtka and the Kourg are doing them and they're eating, no

that's, and so it's spied by the Chinese TikTok. So, so that's a

way for that not, not, for that, for that they're not they're not

a tool. You're a thing? No, TikTok you do do it's there's

there's there's there there's I've seen my studies, that TikTok not only for that people

for people, to get people, like you know, not only you know, you know, you know,

information of the time of your email, how time you do you know, and time you say, that's,

I'm doing information and statistics of all the things in the cellular, not only what is in

the application of TikTok when it's available, but data analytics of all what does in the

cellular. For if in some this person is not this person is getting more to navigate

in internet or there Who? No, no, no, no. How do we do we do? To get the TikTok and not get to get to do it.

Because what want to have zombies all the time with energy peracitaria. I think will get to the war to get a world

or other pandemic. I'm honestly. And I think it's not a lot much, well,

not much. For the situation of, not can't, you put a example very basic, the people

not have the people, and the people, and he did it. Donald Trump posto,

postio, of his quote, I, I at the I, I thought I thought that was fake.

And I said, this is real, or is a real, or is a true? It's a question. It's a for, you know,

same. All the that I think that in Christo is a religion geodochristian. A la verga,

the pinch old is that way? So, I said, what's the lack of respect? Nobody said,

nobody he said, and it's the governor number one of the world. The people do

like, oh, what's, be a many, many, so they're not,

so I'm, they're I'm, I'm, I'm, it's, I'm not what we're

saying, was to, I'm, I'm the control, and he got to the

Pap American. For that I even in the Vatican, I decide if the fom black or the hume

black. And that is the initial of the new order in the world. What we

are going to that is a society where we're all militarized militarized, so militarized

all 100%. Way, two questions. Cres that China venda TikTok

to the United? No. No, no, China China does,

China he has a China in a war. Okay. Yeah.

Who you think that initiate the war world? Well, I think that

is going to not they're to be able to end up now. Trump has the thing for

the sartem for the mango. What I need of the United United States continually

is to sell armament that is what is the so August so

so that right the war of Ukraine and Russia no has

no you know that's because in Ukraine there there there

there magic that need to have control some like points

energetic. Here in Mexico is a place very important for so much people have in Mexico. The people

know the people know the and for so the pyramids and all this. But here Mexico is a very very

relevant. But well going to the time of the wars, that all the days there there's

there all the days there missiles, there tanks, and that's that's

and that's that's but that not that's that's so that so more

that's that's that's it's demonstrated that it was because

when India attacked Pakistan, he said, hey, hey, hey, hey, quiet, I or you, bombadee. That's of all the service of the United,

that's the that's all right, the one- that's the thing is, that's a lot of the designation of the cartels

as far as the airiness MQ-9, I don't tripled, MQ-9, that are going to

go- they're over-wueling territory Mexican, but no, but not it doesn't not, that's

the issue, no? that much was to, no, I can't make that back the marines

and that can't be to be to be able to get to the drone no, even even

even in a rank of a time, that's a drone. It's impossible to give you.

I always I've said, way, that right America no sophisticated

simply is more where we the armament of the United. For so me did

me do what he said I'm said we we're we're we're we're

we're situation. And every every every it's a bit more the situation in the

we're saying something like to say it's something we're talking the webo's the tiger.

And a day that the tiger us mured, it's going to end up the chris you.

You think if it starts to get to China, we? I think what we're

going to go to go back is that we're going to get in a carterles

they're going to there's there was a there that's called cartels Units Units.

They want to start to promulgar that situation that's not I think

that Mexico has the capacity to defend to Mexico but the cartels

of the drug is to look. Fiat that I in a

moment I get to think to then after after

he after after way if if you want

to what I want to let's. Creeam that it's a pinche gaffe,

way, also has a disperper, way. Nive of person excellent. Uh-huh. So,

a- be, I said, I said, I said, why, I'm, the, where, that's

this information this, we? Yeah, at the way, he said, no,

we, a way, to, uh, I don't I'm a mean exactly how he said,

but he he said, in best to buy this, I'm, in fierros, he said.

Because it's a little something for Mexico. Because the

not the government is not not going to be to be we. Because

just we're to be able to protect a little more than what it's

what you don't not even us don't want to destroy and

there are to be honest I've I've I've I've done

the stuff to all the stuff and all this different to be separate.

If you were to the frontiers or you're in you're going to you're going to go to go to Los Angeles,

to Tijuana in New York. The quantity of people addictal the product is horrible. So they're also

they're also saniar a person. There's a moment in that we don't we're not that they're

not going to they're not they're not they're not they're doing they're in the United.

In the the problem is that there operate at the mafia of all there. There is the

real problem of the United, way, no, of Mexico. They have responsible. Like they're saying,

way, no is the problem to vendar it or is the problem who's the problem who's the problem who's

the problem, everyone has their point and defiends the interests of every but we're going to have

done podcast? No? Well, that's the first. No, no, some but more

we're more we're just we're just we're a podcast that's called the haula

of the NU, in where I've I've interviewed other hackers and specialists. So I've experience

about in public because I'm doing conferences. Okay. We're going to the second part of the first of course.

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