LOS MAFIA PODCAST ⭐️ - Vikingo — Estuve en la Guerra de Sadam Husein y mire Cuerpos por todos lados

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:11 and keep on commenting and and, and, I'm doing all the chapters that are a a young, a bejon,
Starting point is 00:00:17 a bejone, a guy, with cheese, the casadillas, and I'm to talk to him. This bejohn, between his professions,
Starting point is 00:00:25 was, was, security of various artists, like Valentin Elisald, Ninel Conde, Mariano Barba, Alfredo Livas, Christian de Manchimorado, among others.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Also, also, his, passion, all the way, was the Luchel and, let's see. What,
Starting point is 00:00:45 this, Veeho? What on, Veeho? What, well, well, yes,
Starting point is 00:00:50 effectively, the career of my life, started practically with the Luchel liberty.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Since very young-sito has me did the little the
Starting point is 00:01:02 world first of the I'm not I'm from my my little
Starting point is 00:01:09 there's from San Miguel El Alto I I to the adventure
Starting point is 00:01:14 practically of the of the poverty of the very very umile very
Starting point is 00:01:20 very very very for the the the the people
Starting point is 00:01:23 I I'm to I'm I started to battalier because I was a young and I
Starting point is 00:01:30 got to, I'm at the status to get in studios. I'm in high school in the
Starting point is 00:01:37 United. And there were where where they were where were the first pininos of the
Starting point is 00:01:43 Luchel Libre. Me said the luchador Olympic. In the, in the, the,
Starting point is 00:01:47 the, the, the, the, the, the diversity of the United is the
Starting point is 00:01:55 football American and the Lucha Libre. And I me was a
Starting point is 00:01:58 attention. I was a lot of a man who really really very
Starting point is 00:02:00 very very very desnutried and me called the attention the
Starting point is 00:02:05 bodies, the and of the question the of the life because the football
Starting point is 00:02:12 American is like much more rudd is a very destructive to
Starting point is 00:02:18 a point of to my point of the times. So, because
Starting point is 00:02:25 continually after that after that it was a a true and adventurer situation in
Starting point is 00:02:33 my life. It's me did the to obtain the state of
Starting point is 00:02:38 but when I got to do I did my service military and
Starting point is 00:02:43 I was the service military so was the war the
Starting point is 00:02:46 Gulf of Percas what was that? of Sadan Hussein so really
Starting point is 00:02:50 really the war of the terrorist was that that
Starting point is 00:02:55 a, like, how I'd like a person, I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:03:02 remember the terminology but like, like he's a place
Starting point is 00:03:09 and so did the circumstances of that I'm in a mission to the
Starting point is 00:03:16 Gulf Bersico I was I was in the base a air
Starting point is 00:03:22 of Naval of Vanais, California doing my service military I'm getting there for petition of a commandant
Starting point is 00:03:28 that he aggrado my form to be my form adventurer my
Starting point is 00:03:34 my my my dynamic my form to confront the life and there
Starting point is 00:03:40 and there and there was a really is that the truth and a the way that I
Starting point is 00:03:47 did a much a much a really so why? Triste
Starting point is 00:03:51 for what what I what I what I that something something very,
Starting point is 00:03:56 I'm in my forms of life that I'd that I were very very sad
Starting point is 00:04:04 nothing to nothing to what I did. There's I see people people
Starting point is 00:04:09 destroza people. For example, your life that you were
Starting point is 00:04:14 what was the carriando? The, the the life of my life
Starting point is 00:04:19 of a many, many, um, they're, they're, um,
Starting point is 00:04:30 like, like, zones very frias. Um, some, are, so they're
Starting point is 00:04:38 called, even, yeah, so, even, even, so, so much,
Starting point is 00:04:42 that you have, sembrated, well, sometimes it's a reason, and it ends being
Starting point is 00:04:48 like a kind of a sort of, well, of a slave of the life. I was rented
Starting point is 00:04:55 with other three brothers for my father, for the hungry, I'm rented
Starting point is 00:05:01 to a house a change to mys and friol for that my other brothers
Starting point is 00:05:08 were one of the things that I said that were very, I'm even a
Starting point is 00:05:15 even I, I was I was I'm a spirit adventurer precisely
Starting point is 00:05:21 the I drove to one day to take the decision to get to get a
Starting point is 00:05:25 question and when I'm in the I'm talking about I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:30 that I'm things terrible horrible and people that definitely no had an option
Starting point is 00:05:35 no had another option in that in that that they can
Starting point is 00:05:41 not they can not they're in that in that the the
Starting point is 00:05:47 sir is Sanan Hussein that after was by the poor
Starting point is 00:05:52 the poor people, the orcaring and it and they're and they're and they're and they're
Starting point is 00:05:56 not, I'm got into much in my life to the type of things.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm tried to get to get to a man my more than I than I.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And I did it I'm in I'm I'm permission I, I'm
Starting point is 00:06:14 to go to my past and my my parents and my didn't me didn't
Starting point is 00:06:18 go, they're, they're me left to go to my
Starting point is 00:06:22 brother to the my wife, was a time, I'm in a certain, I'm a bit of
Starting point is 00:06:40 my class for images that we, that we were in the things that was, like,
Starting point is 00:06:46 for, for, this, for, for, um, for, um,
Starting point is 00:06:50 for, um, for, you would have the mind open to any instinct of attack.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Because, even being a good person of any other activity, in the military,
Starting point is 00:07:01 you're a person prepared for in moments of a shock. Cossan very strong. Cases, things very
Starting point is 00:07:09 very furs. I, I saw people dispedasada. I, I saw things that I never ever
Starting point is 00:07:15 in the TV, because I had a tele because I don't an episode very very really.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It was a question I'm very that, you know, that's how it's the
Starting point is 00:07:25 life, you know, I'm I'm in a life very bad and that
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm what I did you don't know to get to you're really too
Starting point is 00:07:36 so it's very feo, no? But it was for necessity. No, there was there.
Starting point is 00:07:42 There's there a notion. There's a other. Well, because to that
Starting point is 00:07:47 result, a spirit Rarer in me Until the Fecha, I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:07:53 I'm I'm in my personality I'm in my personality I'm and I'm and I'm
Starting point is 00:08:02 and I'm very similar to those my most they've they've they're the opportunity to
Starting point is 00:08:08 study are some are some persons professionals professionals those three
Starting point is 00:08:12 and and I I I see a I see a other reactions or
Starting point is 00:08:17 development that they're and I me, I see to me, in the past in situations difficult
Starting point is 00:08:25 that I've the life like all we know, has always has been alt-ibachos. Altibachos a very
Starting point is 00:08:32 very strong, that's a lot, precisely to me, a me in my story, in my
Starting point is 00:08:39 life, me passed also a situation similar. I've been arastraught many situations very duras.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Quintamel them. As like any other person, a Sometimes, the
Starting point is 00:08:49 people think we're that our story is the most difficult. It's the most, it's the
Starting point is 00:08:55 most precarious, the most castigated of the life. But no you know
Starting point is 00:08:58 you know, you know, and you know, you're just you're really, if, if
Starting point is 00:09:04 you're, the, of the, the, the, of the, and that that,
Starting point is 00:09:10 a other, at least, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:09:12 no, no, no, no, or you , , I'm
Starting point is 00:09:18 for grow. Creecy in my life personal. I'm a do a
Starting point is 00:09:23 businessio. I'm a businessio, a micro-empresario, no a business to do a great
Starting point is 00:09:28 masses, but I'm still in the actuality. I'm still in the actuality.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm an person to be, so I'm not much the association soceramient precisely with
Starting point is 00:09:45 the Mr. Christian Felix, the of maximum grade, it's a
Starting point is 00:09:49 kind of an identification. I identified much with him in the, in the, in the terms of that
Starting point is 00:09:54 he was the young from the nothing, I was, he said, he was to talk to
Starting point is 00:10:03 me, he started things of his life, and a way, I also, I'm
Starting point is 00:10:08 also, I'm not in the ventana to the little a human when,
Starting point is 00:10:12 when he when he when he when he a terms reales, So,
Starting point is 00:10:15 you know the profoundity in the mind, in the soul, and I've a,
Starting point is 00:10:22 I've a year in the actuality, I've a relation very beautiful and a
Starting point is 00:10:27 little, like, like the man, yeah. That's a chingon, it's a
Starting point is 00:10:33 thing, that's a thing my life, me, me, me, I,
Starting point is 00:10:37 I, re-alimented, I, me, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:10:40 I, I've goted there guardadas of many years, of many things
Starting point is 00:10:45 and the things that have been passed on my life, I'm a
Starting point is 00:10:49 kind of a profile, a person a person really in moments
Starting point is 00:10:54 very strict you, you have to be strict. No function
Starting point is 00:10:58 your life if you're a person stricta and exigente
Starting point is 00:11:01 no it's for the people that are tibias that sometimes
Starting point is 00:11:05 a sometimes not normally if you're decided no doesn't
Starting point is 00:11:10 no doesn't In any term, and a time,
Starting point is 00:11:13 of the life, of whatever thing that pretend to talk to be my
Starting point is 00:11:18 Carlitos, yeah yeah, of the life real, of the life
Starting point is 00:11:25 artistic, of the life a other to the lives normal
Starting point is 00:11:30 always, always has always to be the person very I'm
Starting point is 00:11:35 I know, even to people that I know people with
Starting point is 00:11:40 titularities with leadership, I'm I admire of his form to think
Starting point is 00:11:43 of the way of to be to be to be to do do you to order
Starting point is 00:11:51 to make to do in some moment be like as flexible and at
Starting point is 00:11:56 the way be like inquisid and and and then that's
Starting point is 00:12:03 something is something something something of my own Fidgette, before
Starting point is 00:12:13 we've done to get us to be able a scene very little bit a scene that you've in that
Starting point is 00:12:19 mother of the yeah, I'm really a attention, I didn't know,
Starting point is 00:12:23 I didn't have been done the information about, tell me a scene I don't my carlittus
Starting point is 00:12:30 to talk but now now that now that you're that you know I'm
Starting point is 00:12:33 that you can't you can I'm to let's why not you
Starting point is 00:12:38 It's, first. Why not you like? Because you remember? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It's something psychological. I consider that we consider to us, to any person
Starting point is 00:12:52 human, for very strong and chingon that you be a affect, you affect things,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and you will be a person in moments devil. No, we don't be
Starting point is 00:13:04 very, I heard, in some point, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, to I'm, no, no, no point of my life, a person that made a, a, a, a, a commenter, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:13:15 and, and, it's, and I, that's, I, I'm, I'm, I, I, got, thinking, when I'm, when I, I, I, I, I, like, to, I, like, to, I'm, like, to, though, was, , it, is that, is that, we're, people, that, we're, so, valiant,
Starting point is 00:13:31 be wist, astutus, in all. And really, no-se-pue. No-se-pue. The diversity
Starting point is 00:13:39 apply in this theme. It's a diversity, divina, my dear Carlitos, is a diversity that I consider
Starting point is 00:13:46 divine. It's like to you to do you put it a thing, to do that other, and
Starting point is 00:13:52 we can't be really tautologists. Then, the, I, I, examine with me
Starting point is 00:13:56 and I did it, I applied. It was in how in my situations, in my
Starting point is 00:14:02 forms of life. I took, I took, I was, I'm a person very exitosa.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Until the fact I consider a person and I agree to comment it. Also,
Starting point is 00:14:14 many many times it has it has to be, the emissor, the transmitter,
Starting point is 00:14:18 are two areas very important of a question. If you don't have a good
Starting point is 00:14:24 receptor, not you can't emit your ideas, your forms your character
Starting point is 00:14:28 because the person is a a attitude with your mind, that you know even
Starting point is 00:14:33 where you know, his profile maybe not you know you know in what
Starting point is 00:14:38 how it can do do you and it and it and it and it disper sando
Starting point is 00:14:45 and not the form real that is one evocating I'm in this case
Starting point is 00:14:52 as a emisor me I asked a moment that what
Starting point is 00:14:56 things I've lived, the most the most the most the most that I did I
Starting point is 00:15:04 think I'm I'm and I just I'm just I'm in the area of in an
Starting point is 00:15:14 portavioness M47B I don't I'm I'm going to forget I'm not I'm going to
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm I'm of those people who or things of my past because because
Starting point is 00:15:27 also in my personality, I've always had always a person very lastimated. But that person lastimated
Starting point is 00:15:36 also me makes a character in a certain moment and he does, and me makes me to be good,
Starting point is 00:15:43 he does like to other people, I like to be very servicial. It's me has
Starting point is 00:15:47 done, and I think that is one of my satisfactions more shing of my
Starting point is 00:15:54 life. When I've served to a person in my that has
Starting point is 00:15:58 done what to serve more than to be served is a attitude
Starting point is 00:16:02 personal it's that in this life you you you decide
Starting point is 00:16:08 for so in a moment to know if you
Starting point is 00:16:12 have if you you're a servidor if you're
Starting point is 00:16:16 a person with point and pute the leadership
Starting point is 00:16:21 to the middle to the the of the
Starting point is 00:16:25 or simply and simply and you You're part of the team.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I, I've felt very a good to be a kind of a kind of a sensation,
Starting point is 00:16:38 of a sensation, yeah, well, the felicity is a sensation. It's an emotion, it's an emotion.
Starting point is 00:16:45 The emotion. The emotions, the, I'm not, with the emotions. Precisely, ohla, my story
Starting point is 00:16:52 to be to serve a much people, for that in a certain moment of that's
Starting point is 00:16:57 that they're on that's in the mere fond of the pozo sit there there even
Starting point is 00:17:05 a little a little chispita and and I I want I that's
Starting point is 00:17:11 that that that's that that does make a something we're
Starting point is 00:17:17 we're always we're to do all the people we're people
Starting point is 00:17:21 there are people that can't, you can't be able to get in the God's and the God.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Amen. I'm going to a situation very good in my life, in a situation resilient, I'm going to your life.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I hope to the majority of the people, what is the resilience, that is something that is something
Starting point is 00:17:46 that's a moment, it's like a form to sobersalir, to resurgir. to get the cargo of
Starting point is 00:17:55 of all the you're trying and let's let's in the moment and resurgir
Starting point is 00:18:00 and renovate. Renovart I think that all we know we know
Starting point is 00:18:06 and it and not you know that you that that personality
Starting point is 00:18:11 that that person that a man or a man with a
Starting point is 00:18:17 acquisition with what you you did you you didn't it
Starting point is 00:18:20 that's the humanity, the humanism in the alma transmite more than the
Starting point is 00:18:27 quantity that we're in the box, much more. That's so I can commenter
Starting point is 00:18:33 and very and very suavement. How is that's that's the way?
Starting point is 00:18:39 How you? How do you do you? How do you do? No, it was
Starting point is 00:18:43 it's easy. No, it's one of the alt and I, I refer it
Starting point is 00:18:50 I'm maybe not the point of that I'm a, one a
Starting point is 00:18:56 chapter in my career of where I was a professional I don't see if
Starting point is 00:19:03 you you know you have been you have been and so the
Starting point is 00:19:07 the question in base to your question that how it was
Starting point is 00:19:11 the life me made make make make a
Starting point is 00:19:14 what your it's like a therapy, if is correct.
Starting point is 00:19:20 All what I could not let I would let me I'm trying I'm
Starting point is 00:19:23 like I'm really feelings, and I'm about the emotions. All of the experiences
Starting point is 00:19:29 you cause emotions of all indolene. The Luchia me made in
Starting point is 00:19:36 his moment standing in the scenario of a quadrilatero to sort
Starting point is 00:19:41 bocarras of expressions and that precisely that what I said
Starting point is 00:19:48 the that that's how a sometimes atolled. Much people, much people
Starting point is 00:19:53 so he he has done. Obviously, we know many people but many people,
Starting point is 00:20:00 maybe many people of those that they have heard these these words,
Starting point is 00:20:04 never have to to self to be to be to let that they
Starting point is 00:20:08 in into. Something that they doesn't let us does do it,
Starting point is 00:20:12 and doesn't make to come a obstacle, but is that they're going to
Starting point is 00:20:18 they're a same I'm going to hear of the question. I'm going to tell you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:20:25 much to see the amissities, many, much. If you and you're going to
Starting point is 00:20:31 you're going to you're going to the water, you're going to go to know, you're going to dovetar
Starting point is 00:20:37 so, as like as if in my words as simple so is how it
Starting point is 00:20:42 works the life and has functioned for me. always
Starting point is 00:20:47 not is that it's a person very slow but the life you're going to be
Starting point is 00:20:53 going to I'm going to my life was a man a man a man much a man
Starting point is 00:21:00 a man very timid not me to talk I'm I'm I'm again again
Starting point is 00:21:05 to the system of the emotions um I'm he had much my
Starting point is 00:21:09 and those me also me also me he did the Lucha Libra
Starting point is 00:21:12 to get to give to do a Luch Libre. I was a
Starting point is 00:21:19 person very stricta with me my life. I applied to
Starting point is 00:21:27 situations extreme. Me put you to do things that I in the
Starting point is 00:21:31 moment considered impossible. Let I'm a example one I,
Starting point is 00:21:37 I, just that just to get to some
Starting point is 00:21:39 people that had had seen there And there for Guadalajara
Starting point is 00:21:43 they've seen to see me, me were being in a gymnasium and they're oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm going to get a moment and I said, well, you know, the truth is that
Starting point is 00:21:55 I've seen the live in the TV and it and it's like a kind of
Starting point is 00:21:59 like a like a something of a a risa. Those words are then
Starting point is 00:22:06 then they're in a real time. Me said the person when gusts
Starting point is 00:22:11 there in that quartito, in that quartito, there we train some people people really professional
Starting point is 00:22:16 for you do you know, me metier a chinga a big good. With what you did you
Starting point is 00:22:24 think you ever, obviously, do you know a madrig. Yeah, yeah, a person
Starting point is 00:22:29 chaparita, yeah, for that then I had, I had a physical, yeah, more pronounced,
Starting point is 00:22:34 marked, yeah, me, really the attention the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:22:37 I'm, I'm, I recommend much to the people that in any way
Starting point is 00:22:41 live in the way, the exercise extreme or no extreme, do you do a good
Starting point is 00:22:47 your life. Many people, many people think that the exercise is like an something
Starting point is 00:22:53 is like I don't pretend to change to change the theme. I
Starting point is 00:22:57 want to end the point that I'm talking to the partida of my
Starting point is 00:23:04 career. My career luchistic no took not, not was
Starting point is 00:23:08 very long, but what is long was the learning. Never I never did to learn. One
Starting point is 00:23:15 thing was to the other. In the middle of the Lucha Libre, I've the fortune
Starting point is 00:23:20 to know a an artist that made the doors in the world of the spectacle of the
Starting point is 00:23:25 music, that was the Lord Valentin Elisald the Mr. Valentin Elisald
Starting point is 00:23:31 I, I'm to go totally there by Guadalajara. He lived in
Starting point is 00:23:35 Guadalajara. And and me did the petition I was, I'm working I'm active in the Luchel
Starting point is 00:23:42 around the year 2000 and the company, the company, the company, Delpho, that now exists,
Starting point is 00:23:49 I think that's, that was, that I'm to manage about a various artists, Valentin,
Starting point is 00:23:55 personally, he did the petition that wanted a person of my profile. That was what I'm
Starting point is 00:24:01 talking about because I had a practice in the Coliseo of Guadalajara me mandar
Starting point is 00:24:07 and they made a little introduction of the petition of the question of
Starting point is 00:24:11 the question of their needs. And then I happened to know that a
Starting point is 00:24:19 more, like, I don't I had I'm much getting that I
Starting point is 00:24:24 know that I'm going to end the actuality even a even a even a
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm doing a maximum grade I'm I'm I'm assistant
Starting point is 00:24:34 of the senior representant Rogelio Martini's, of maximum grader.
Starting point is 00:24:40 He, the sir, is one of my friends more important of my
Starting point is 00:24:46 life, of my career, of my life, me has really really,
Starting point is 00:24:50 and a past that we have a lot communication, he has a family
Starting point is 00:24:55 little, I'm my family and is great, we have we have much
Starting point is 00:25:00 communication, and between the communication is the assoramient. I
Starting point is 00:25:04 make petitions of situations, as a that my life, he's as a
Starting point is 00:25:09 like a high-violence and of much experience, experience positive, considering his words
Starting point is 00:25:17 very intelligent of the Lord. So, with Valentin, how did you work as? With Valentin
Starting point is 00:25:25 Elisald I, I, I, did, until the year of 2005.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Me made the petition, we were, if more no I remember, And we had
Starting point is 00:25:36 in Jerez, in Jerez Sakatecas was at the fairies of Jerez Sakeas in a
Starting point is 00:25:45 area of a area of there's there's where they're they're not
Starting point is 00:25:53 the merriaries also curiousomently for there we're not we're in the same hotel
Starting point is 00:25:59 where we we're tope to some elements obviously they're luchators
Starting point is 00:26:04 but obviously without maskara. I was coming and me and I was toped to the front
Starting point is 00:26:08 and they they were to be to know a me to be a perfection. My identity I used
Starting point is 00:26:12 a masker. I used a maskar in some occasions were projects failed of the
Starting point is 00:26:16 company of the company, the country, because the people me, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:23 I was, yeah me would be always, always that me projectable with with another
Starting point is 00:26:29 person that were like projects that are like the majority of the companies
Starting point is 00:26:33 do do things, they're renewing. And then, I toped to some elements of the
Starting point is 00:26:40 AAA. Me toped to a Rey Mysterio Jr. He was a, a, a,
Starting point is 00:26:46 a parca, yeah I've died of a good, a cybernetic, some,
Starting point is 00:26:55 some, some, some, elements of the company triple A. And it
Starting point is 00:27:00 was, in those one of them made the commentary, oh, Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:04 That's the That's the That's the Apo that's The In the Luch Libre
Starting point is 00:27:08 He's Precisely I'm So I'm To say Atlantis And the Raya of
Starting point is 00:27:12 Halisco when I went to Yeah, I'm to say Paisano and Paisano
Starting point is 00:27:18 because we're of the area more I'm not I'm notiv
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm I'm residia I'm I'm I'm I'm said Paisian
Starting point is 00:27:28 and it and I'm said Paisano and me said the Paxan the sir Tonyo Peña, that was,
Starting point is 00:27:34 yeah in peace, I was in Pace also, he was the duke-a, of the company AAA,
Starting point is 00:27:40 he's the thing, he's, and he doesn't, and he has a project for
Starting point is 00:27:45 you. And it was in that moment that was, it was, it was,
Starting point is 00:27:50 a a need, a necessity, I, of much to bea to bea ,
Starting point is 00:27:55 because it was, much people think that the world of the world of the It's behind the camera,
Starting point is 00:28:03 sirs. It's a bit pesado. It's tedious. It's tedious. There's too. There's a lot of what the
Starting point is 00:28:10 people see. The Luchia Libre, of the world of the spectacle, of the music. So, you have to
Starting point is 00:28:16 do you to get to a little to one and to do that to beledado, arisgando your life.
Starting point is 00:28:23 He has passed to many people that have had been to accidents. We have to translate
Starting point is 00:28:29 us rapidly. And then So, always in the in the world of the spectacle, pardon, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:28:37 it's, it's difficult to spabilarty. Any person participes of the company, from the,
Starting point is 00:28:48 from the staff to the security, the music, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:28:56 the, the carrier the console. All the people are important. And all, all, all, always,
Starting point is 00:29:01 always, they're very fregated, well, for the people enjoy the people
Starting point is 00:29:05 do you know, and a spectacle of quality. Well, in fin, so, so they were
Starting point is 00:29:11 the petition, I did the petition, in Cautem Chihuahua, to Valentine, I said,
Starting point is 00:29:17 oh, he, he, he, he, he, he was, he was
Starting point is 00:29:21 a lot he was to have, I, I'm a, I'm a chief of security,
Starting point is 00:29:25 but it the command, the command the command , the command It's being
Starting point is 00:29:30 the strategy. He's the strategies, he he's going to he was
Starting point is 00:29:37 doing he was the first person in my life. With him in the world of
Starting point is 00:29:42 the spectacle of the music and he did know that he had a
Starting point is 00:29:45 mind a mental, and me he said, he said you you should
Starting point is 00:29:51 have to have been in the in the world of the military
Starting point is 00:29:55 of the king I said I am in
Starting point is 00:29:57 this with because me A me I'm a music.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I like much your music. I like much the music of band and the artists with the artists with
Starting point is 00:30:06 we've been to know many to know many artists, he's to do a new
Starting point is 00:30:12 facet in my career of security, but even I'm not so, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:19 like front to with you with me I'm really Carlito with characters
Starting point is 00:30:23 of the world of the music and it was a family As like they
Starting point is 00:30:29 they'd know who had been I've been a person that had stelarized around
Starting point is 00:30:34 of the 92 to 95 stelarice with the name of the viking that is how me
Starting point is 00:30:40 know in the actuality that he opened me opened many doors, many parts,
Starting point is 00:30:45 not more the name and not more the person because I'm
Starting point is 00:30:49 because I want to the characters, and the has to be with your quality, with your person,
Starting point is 00:31:01 with your decision, with the the push that you bring you from the thing that's your own.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Much of the very important. Much of many times many people because, why not to say it
Starting point is 00:31:13 toxic? And you intoxicant? You're toxic in the mind? All the people that
Starting point is 00:31:18 you know, to be to get to be kind of kind of kind of kind of
Starting point is 00:31:23 the feeling is very very It's perceived very easily. People
Starting point is 00:31:29 with the people with a quality of a smile real. He's a look at your a moeca.
Starting point is 00:31:38 In some occasion of my career, I worked for Chui Lizarraga and I noted,
Starting point is 00:31:44 not it, not it, not is for a bad, but noted that for the photos, Chu, Chui,
Starting point is 00:31:48 was very nervous, so when in the moment that they they're anxiety. Never
Starting point is 00:31:58 I never I asked for what but precisely I was I'm going to and I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:32:02 Vikingo Vy because he's put very nervous and he he made with him
Starting point is 00:32:08 some time and I'm going to these mueks for the photos and I was to all the way
Starting point is 00:32:15 so very so and so and I said ah a car why? Oh,
Starting point is 00:32:21 oh, come how there that? I'm like that I'm said, I'm
Starting point is 00:32:25 know, but much, muchissimo, it's not, the gesticulation of the car, it's not a sincerity of
Starting point is 00:32:32 a person. In determinants moments of our lives, people, maybe you know you get to not to know,
Starting point is 00:32:39 but other people, what you, what you know, what you know, what you know,
Starting point is 00:32:44 they're not, and they're they're not, and they're no, there's, like the, in the terms
Starting point is 00:32:50 of God, no, there's, or are, if, or is, or is or you're,
Starting point is 00:32:56 or you're, And the people do they're in that you're a person not real, it's not, the person's.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Of that way, it was like I started, like a, like, I'm, like, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm, saying, well, the of the way, I don't know, I'm, don't know,
Starting point is 00:33:14 because I know a career, of, the, of the, the, head of security,
Starting point is 00:33:21 and the, escoltas, escoltes, artistic, that's very different than the world in other areas
Starting point is 00:33:27 of the 40s, that's the terminology to the end up different. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:33:36 because you are in a world not contra. You're involved in difficulties. You're not with people
Starting point is 00:33:42 with people solting emotions. And so, it's hard. Lide with them? Oh,
Starting point is 00:33:50 holy. No. No, no. No. I, I, I, I, I, have, I, I,
Starting point is 00:33:53 I've, I've, I've, for to write to write many people in my
Starting point is 00:33:56 life that's there's a question and in the actuality I'm doing a
Starting point is 00:34:01 little bit approximately and maybe in some in some point of my
Starting point is 00:34:05 life and they're to know and they know with that that time because it's
Starting point is 00:34:12 like me the other people. There's there's there have people who have been people who
Starting point is 00:34:20 have been a day a lot me said that was an luchador that was the little
Starting point is 00:34:25 the boy I'm a my my boy my boy my boy major is a
Starting point is 00:34:29 name Arnole is engineer industrial and he he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:34:32 he he's he's he's he he's he was he was the
Starting point is 00:34:38 one of my my he was the love the but in
Starting point is 00:34:42 the moment in the no I don't want to
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'm I'm I want to I want I'm I
Starting point is 00:34:50 want to I so I then I said, I mean, you know, the
Starting point is 00:34:54 circumstances are very different. But why are different? Or why they have different?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Well, is that, precisely, the time are the new thing. Yeah, for me,
Starting point is 00:35:05 yeah, not a new because it's a lot of the free. It's got a
Starting point is 00:35:10 good. A lot, well, a life, a middle high. Medial. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:16 yeah, yeah, of good quality. I've, I, took, to pay
Starting point is 00:35:20 careras to my three kids, careers professional that not were in
Starting point is 00:35:24 schools, in schools publicas, not it was so easy. Obviously, much
Starting point is 00:35:30 people know that's easy, lid with emotions of children and to get
Starting point is 00:35:35 careers, and careers that you ask you this, why, why you
Starting point is 00:35:40 want to study that? Sin however, I get to identify that that you
Starting point is 00:35:45 don't necessarily you know that's what you want, what you
Starting point is 00:35:50 do That's very easy. That's the process of the children because I
Starting point is 00:35:55 know I put on over it I'm trying to stimulate that, a be, what is what
Starting point is 00:36:04 is what you know to get to study communication communications communication and I came and
Starting point is 00:36:11 I was I I was because there was there there was there
Starting point is 00:36:16 was a of my and my father's and not was concentrated
Starting point is 00:36:19 and I was of, I'm mentalized from, from the second year, I'm from,
Starting point is 00:36:25 to the day of today of today, of being, of being disciplined, so I'm disorientated
Starting point is 00:36:32 in some moments, but I have tried to do with, and I have a
Starting point is 00:36:36 word, then, and this, in this, in this, in this question, was,
Starting point is 00:36:43 so I'm affected a chinko emotionally and not was concentrated, and I'm I was, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:36:48 to the promedious to I'm not, no, no, I'm not, I'm a good,
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm going to a break and then I'm going to go to go in the second year to pass
Starting point is 00:36:58 to the three years in that university. And, yeah, it's, I'm,
Starting point is 00:37:04 I'm, I'm going to do I'm and I'm and I discovered other things that I
Starting point is 00:37:11 wanted today, today, it's what we're doing, But one of the of the reasons also principal is
Starting point is 00:37:20 that I said no, that's a mother no, because it was because it was very mal-pagated. And apart
Starting point is 00:37:26 mal-paid you had to give the nalgas as they were there. No. So, naturally,
Starting point is 00:37:33 to be able to be able to be able to be able to adaptate to what the people, productors,
Starting point is 00:37:41 they said. Something that's the Luchador, the Blue Demon Junior, he, he studied that career. Me, he saw in
Starting point is 00:37:49 some moment of my life, me view, when I was a young I'd probably I'd 23, 24 years. And me said, Oie, Paisanito, me,
Starting point is 00:37:58 you know, I'd say, you know, you're always that you're, you know, you're still, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:02 in the, in the offices of the Granah, Mexico, cobrando, and I'm sure to be reading. No,
Starting point is 00:38:08 no, you know, not you're just to start distractinging. And I, and I said, I said,
Starting point is 00:38:11 is that I just to spend the time. And I'm, and it It's like.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So, after the time, me said, thank you. Thank you. Well, no, it's
Starting point is 00:38:22 that your words, me allentated. And I'm retire of the career of communications to continue to
Starting point is 00:38:29 the Luch Libre. So, so, how I was, how I was in what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:38:35 your words Carlitos, those I don't know with him. He has been, for me,
Starting point is 00:38:40 one of the people in the world of luchistic, exitoso, is a a person real,
Starting point is 00:38:47 I think real, because I know of all, as we all know of all the general, we know of all the general.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I know, I know, to him, I know, I think to me about about four,
Starting point is 00:38:58 five years. Pretend I think, that he's, think, a more, about about 58, 60 years.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Blue Demon, did you? Blue Demon, did you? The, and the original, what?
Starting point is 00:39:10 The Blue Demon? The, the, the, the, he was a, he was a, he was a,
Starting point is 00:39:16 heer, heer, wero, weer, wero, like albino. Like albino. No,
Starting point is 00:39:24 no, ventil his abode because he still, he still, he's a maskcar. It's something,
Starting point is 00:39:31 is something delicate, but his father, was, he was, he was, he,
Starting point is 00:39:36 he, he, in some moment of his career, me, he, he was
Starting point is 00:39:44 like a person important, I think. I'm he was a child adoptive.
Starting point is 00:39:49 What he did he in my life? And I did you do you know
Starting point is 00:39:53 about to be going to do this that I have commented now. I'm
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm I'm I'm I'm a much, the little, much,
Starting point is 00:40:02 much, much, that's a lentator my comments. The fact,
Starting point is 00:40:08 I don't pretend figure out. I'm invited here by the Mr.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Carlitos and that I'm thank you and my pretension actual for any
Starting point is 00:40:21 person to the I'm to help to help to do with what I have
Starting point is 00:40:27 with what I have. It's my personality, be my words, be my
Starting point is 00:40:33 man, of some because me have been in a form in
Starting point is 00:40:38 a person of a person human altruista, me a
Starting point is 00:40:42 grader in the actuality I do do you do I'm much, I do chichita a chriardos
Starting point is 00:40:49 now. I'm the second the second the second we're going to something to he's a little,
Starting point is 00:40:58 he's a not, no, no, go to the time, but I want to want to
Starting point is 00:41:02 talk about a muchachito was a father soltero he castes with the mom, so rapidly
Starting point is 00:41:08 she was with the mom, the mom was abandoneded and he he left
Starting point is 00:41:11 the little the manned the the man he's very
Starting point is 00:41:16 very very very much I'm metied in his business and the
Starting point is 00:41:20 muchachito was in a very very very very
Starting point is 00:41:25 he he he he I can do the I
Starting point is 00:41:30 know it's a car very very very very
Starting point is 00:41:31 very so I'm I'm I'm I'm the I'm
Starting point is 00:41:36 I can't come I can't come of some to help
Starting point is 00:41:41 but I'm to give me just to just with simple to talk to him, with he and with me,
Starting point is 00:41:47 if he and he a comod, and if he going to be feeling like the need to make a need to
Starting point is 00:41:55 him because his father was a person who's much of me you know, the man, he was a
Starting point is 00:42:00 professional, he has he has caros classical I, I'm in the quality of restauring, carous classics, I think about
Starting point is 00:42:07 an idea, it's like a hobby for me I'm a passiona and then he called the
Starting point is 00:42:12 attention to the manchett to be me that I'm put up traps to
Starting point is 00:42:19 and desuciar and I put like chankito but me appasional to be seeing
Starting point is 00:42:25 forms antivos of vehicles antivos and look forms reales
Starting point is 00:42:32 and I want to say a point of this not I've I just have
Starting point is 00:42:37 I've commented, but I adore restorer cars antivus, but it's because I see something of the life. What you see?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm, I'm, how, beings, of the most of the majority now exist,
Starting point is 00:42:56 they're, the majority of the things, they were, they were, with good elements, good materials,
Starting point is 00:43:03 are things that still persisted. I've quit pieces of more of 50 years and they're
Starting point is 00:43:09 still, they're working. And in the actuality, no, I'm going choteer
Starting point is 00:43:13 to the world of the automobile but the reality? But the reality is that all right
Starting point is 00:43:19 is that is a so I identify. I identify part of that's like
Starting point is 00:43:22 the life. There people of things of different that were
Starting point is 00:43:27 things things compassion, for people that people that were people
Starting point is 00:43:35 had, the people, it was, contented in the vehicles, no, they're not going to do they're
Starting point is 00:43:40 to do with them to get to see a car. And so is like I'm like I'm
Starting point is 00:43:46 like a hobby. For that's me appasional. I'm, I'm a fierrito, the limpio, the scardo,
Starting point is 00:43:53 and I see signs at a sometimes in some letters that have formalities antivas,
Starting point is 00:44:05 legendas antivas, Fomok Fomoco Chrysler of the years 50s I have some cars
Starting point is 00:44:14 of the years 50s you know I don't I'm I'm a file line 59
Starting point is 00:44:20 a mercury 53 cars so that are so they're allusion to the
Starting point is 00:44:27 era of the quets of when the era spatial I I'm think
Starting point is 00:44:34 that maybe those they're they're they're like the
Starting point is 00:44:39 salas of the back like of vampire some, others with form of
Starting point is 00:44:42 quetta, but it was the time in the it's not the time that's the
Starting point is 00:44:47 human not a way of that's for me are things very important to me
Starting point is 00:44:53 to be that I know I'm a passion I'm an passion of
Starting point is 00:44:57 to get to get knowledge no never never I
Starting point is 00:45:00 can't I can't get to because the knowledge
Starting point is 00:45:04 because the spirit to the person. But the more rich of this is that you can't share to others, that's not a lot of them doesn't passions so. And those can't impapar and
Starting point is 00:45:16 get to build a building something. There are cars of today, no, that never have been sold? You're just
Starting point is 00:45:24 that these cars after, no, see, some 60, 70 years, be recorded. Of cars
Starting point is 00:45:34 actual? in reality obviously immediately you percattas that I did a kind of because no
Starting point is 00:45:45 no no no they're going to prevail the image of those cars not will be
Starting point is 00:45:50 to be obviously always you always always I think someone I think
Starting point is 00:45:55 I opinion with my person every I'm every is free to think
Starting point is 00:45:58 in what there's there but I see in the
Starting point is 00:46:03 reality that that those images. And when you when you a car classic or
Starting point is 00:46:08 you're in a car in restoration immediately pass an images for your mind, even of the chavitos
Starting point is 00:46:13 that are very little little they're in some carritories in the lot of carriages and they
Starting point is 00:46:21 they're much of tanniditas and you put yantitas and then anything they resulta. And the
Starting point is 00:46:29 cars of now for me the fact they're the form in that I know. The plastic
Starting point is 00:46:33 are Yeah. Lamentably, yeah. Figgate that I think that those cars that you have
Starting point is 00:46:40 classics after 70, 80 years are going to be being being recorded. Correct. That's
Starting point is 00:46:46 they're to get to get us. The, is that, is that the creativity of that
Starting point is 00:46:54 then I always, conformed I'm going to more of the life,
Starting point is 00:46:58 I retrocedo many many times in the time. Right in the
Starting point is 00:47:03 actuality I have a a situation of my spina dorsal that me got it
Starting point is 00:47:08 and much people think that's because I'm a lot of the lifection of the Luchel in reality
Starting point is 00:47:17 detect it was for managing that's to manage that stress to do that stress is a
Starting point is 00:47:25 factura that you have to pay for to have leadership in in any in
Starting point is 00:47:30 any in any area in you not you liberas, not you're
Starting point is 00:47:34 going to be free of the stress. Any person that I'm no, I know, I
Starting point is 00:47:37 don't know, I'm a lot of my wets, I'm going to liberate. No. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I consider that the stress is a kind of situation that you generate anxiety and the
Starting point is 00:47:53 anxiety you make more more a grererererer you to get to far
Starting point is 00:47:57 to the things. If you do anxiety and you feel so you like
Starting point is 00:48:00 desperated but at the way also it makes more more
Starting point is 00:48:05 more perseverating you make more more more more
Starting point is 00:48:10 more more more things you you're you want to
Starting point is 00:48:14 if you're a fact that you get to pay the
Starting point is 00:48:17 stress you think the stress diminue to our years of the
Starting point is 00:48:24 stress the science you affect. Not just the years of your condition of life.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I, as I, like you say, in the actuality, in the actuality, I have
Starting point is 00:48:38 a affection of my spina dorsal, but no me has rendered. Conforme me,
Starting point is 00:48:44 I pass a thing, me has been a other in my mind. Me can't be like,
Starting point is 00:48:48 I'm just, and I'm thinking that is the information that I made to my mind because I
Starting point is 00:48:54 did in some moment to learn more. I learned much of music
Starting point is 00:48:58 I learned much of the luchess. I'm a master of Lucha Libre. Many times I've done classes
Starting point is 00:49:02 of Luchalibre. There's a stelerist right in the Luchy in the Lucha that no I don't
Starting point is 00:49:12 want to get me the the, the credit. All the credit of having the luchator but his
Starting point is 00:49:21 father, his papa, my, he made the petition when a youngcito the
Starting point is 00:49:27 muchachito, he was a very a travesado, very bronco, very, very, really,
Starting point is 00:49:32 and the Luchita has been so, like much people think that are payasadas,
Starting point is 00:49:38 that really I don't consider payasasas. It's a, is a world athlete,
Starting point is 00:49:43 physical, mental, of concentration. Precisely, in those times, his papa, his papa,
Starting point is 00:49:53 me said, my brothers, my men, are from Talah, Halisco, where the
Starting point is 00:49:59 Perro Raguayo, who is very known, and he said, you know, I don't, I'm not I'm afraid to
Starting point is 00:50:05 give him to do you to get to you're very technical, I'm very you know that you're not
Starting point is 00:50:12 when we're in the vestidors that we had been in that time, I was working for a
Starting point is 00:50:19 person who's a gronda, his name his name of Pila no, I can't say.
Starting point is 00:50:24 The The sir still still has the name of Gronda. He was encargated of the area
Starting point is 00:50:30 of the Occidente of the AAA and he he's he's I'm I'm talking
Starting point is 00:50:36 to get a kind of my telephone so rapidly he got my telephone and he talked to me
Starting point is 00:50:42 interview me interview I'm interviewed with him because no I'm there's because no
Starting point is 00:50:48 people people there are there's not there no there no there there no there
Starting point is 00:50:51 there no there I'm I re-reled with him, I said, well, in that time
Starting point is 00:50:56 I was a industry mowlerer. In some moment, of my platic I said,
Starting point is 00:51:01 I've said to do a a micro-empresario, so me did it all things, I know that was good for
Starting point is 00:51:07 it. And of there, I said the I'm in the actuality, I'm an
Starting point is 00:51:13 assessor, I'm an company, because, as the Mr. Roelio, Martinez,
Starting point is 00:51:20 he said, you always, you, you, you know, you, you all, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:24 maybe for him represent like a type of a type of a person but
Starting point is 00:51:28 not is that me know that not that I'm consider it like I am I
Starting point is 00:51:33 say I like a person that I like a person who never me enfah
Starting point is 00:51:38 to know more the documentaries me really much the story
Starting point is 00:51:43 because the story maybe they're why the story why I
Starting point is 00:51:47 think the story the story of the the story that
Starting point is 00:51:53 the story that lived many people, many emperators, many, many cultures, it was much
Starting point is 00:51:57 to be in the way in the form in the way we've been in the communities, right in the actuality,
Starting point is 00:52:05 live precarially because of those events. But it's met me to a world that
Starting point is 00:52:11 we're not a type political. Dime, D'em D'am, D'am, D'clock.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Oh, is that I'm like, like, like, like, how, how can you
Starting point is 00:52:21 say, you know, you know, you're very cult, you're very things. And a person
Starting point is 00:52:30 like you, how conquista a woman? A person like I, how conquista a woman, I'm,
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'm, you know, very, very rare for me. Because it rarro? Because,
Starting point is 00:52:40 as I remember, when I was a young little was extremely timid. In the
Starting point is 00:52:47 actuality, in the actuality, I'm, I'm, I have one of my two children, one is very
Starting point is 00:52:53 extrovertido and the other is very timid is very cerebral, it's very very moving, it's very
Starting point is 00:52:58 moved, very astut he erode that part that I see in me but he yeah with
Starting point is 00:53:05 yeah with forms well well well and then they do and then
Starting point is 00:53:10 they do but in based to your question in part what I do my
Starting point is 00:53:17 because I'm see he and me I see to me, me in the past. In the actuality, obviously, with my knowledge, I have more soltura, more soltura to
Starting point is 00:53:26 talk. It's very easy for me entablar a platic with a female. Very easy. I'd have been this type of knowledgement, but what is what me makes be like,
Starting point is 00:53:39 as to have, like, to have a conquistador nor do I'm, but it's that no you have felt to be conquistador. In the actuality, I've made
Starting point is 00:53:49 that the the muchachada the majority yeah not you know they're
Starting point is 00:53:56 now they're they're they're and I don't and I don't
Starting point is 00:54:02 do and then they're so they're ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Starting point is 00:54:06 yeah they're in some in some in a connection yeah
Starting point is 00:54:11 yeah pardon oh that that that no no
Starting point is 00:54:16 no no Well, you think. You're going to judge? No, I think no. And if there are people that judge, for that, I reiterate is, according to who? The opinions. Not that?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Come on berg, tell you. How? So, then? Your, you're cast, right? Really, I'm sorry. Really I'm a divorceeated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I'm a relation bonita with the woman that was my husband, legally. what I do now now is more my
Starting point is 00:54:50 amy my really a good to have me because of the product of our relationship and with
Starting point is 00:55:01 she seems very very very good I have much connection with my kids in
Starting point is 00:55:05 the actuality and and of I think I'm that I'm always that I'm
Starting point is 00:55:12 like I'm like a comment and say oh yeah you know is that the mom of your sister's always
Starting point is 00:55:17 you presume much. He says that you did the young of the young people are the
Starting point is 00:55:25 people who those three ones more than others always presumed much he says presumed
Starting point is 00:55:31 that you coming from where you know you know a man a man timid and
Starting point is 00:55:36 all that he's not not talk about all what you knowces
Starting point is 00:55:40 but always presumed much of how their development have developed with much
Starting point is 00:55:46 more facilitation than any more than my children. Not because they're my kids. Every who wants their will be your own a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I'll give me the expression because I think I don't dole to repeat it or my father yeah but I never never felt a caris of my father.
Starting point is 00:56:03 That that did or no did the really. No, I know to contestar it if me
Starting point is 00:56:08 they're asking. And I do you do this people that they're to be They don't want in their
Starting point is 00:56:13 life. A me no me my mother, a me don't my father. I don't have a
Starting point is 00:56:16 connection with my parents. No you need to have done a connection with
Starting point is 00:56:20 your parents. And having you have done the opportunity to live, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:25 you have you have a person with many opportunities. Now, that I know, there
Starting point is 00:56:31 has been a person, I'm in the actuality I'm in 1968, perhaps, as my
Starting point is 00:56:38 my friend Carlitos, me I feel like that I'm like to I'm
Starting point is 00:56:42 really, yeah, definitely that's, that's, in my emotions, no,
Starting point is 00:56:47 I'm, it's even I mean, says, I'm, because I'm that it
Starting point is 00:56:51 does that it's, to be, to foment my, my personality, serve to help me,
Starting point is 00:56:58 to help to help, to help, to a person, to a repent me bea, and
Starting point is 00:57:04 listen my words, and know, with realities, if no, look all the
Starting point is 00:57:10 time as you this this interview as I'm the end of the window that's not
Starting point is 00:57:16 that's very difficult that a person that's that's that's you know,
Starting point is 00:57:22 I'm don't want I'm I'm when I have worked but it's
Starting point is 00:57:28 one of the forms that is one precisely it's one of the forms
Starting point is 00:57:31 that I identify much when a when a person is looking to
Starting point is 00:57:36 you and some of some a termino of some form and titobea
Starting point is 00:57:43 dispega a or you know in the in the pupila talves dilatada
Starting point is 00:57:49 the muscles the muscles that are the the front precisely
Starting point is 00:57:56 the gesticulation you notice you know that's like those words like
Starting point is 00:57:59 not they're no there no there there's that is
Starting point is 00:58:05 something is a something is something is a characteristic that's all the
Starting point is 00:58:10 people those people can't identify, has known to some that you have been
Starting point is 00:58:15 a lot but, but, that has affected that that you have you that's a
Starting point is 00:58:24 man, I'm a very, no, look, look, my Carlitos, many,
Starting point is 00:58:27 many, many, many, many people, many I've believed to the person
Starting point is 00:58:31 but for convenience and not, not necessarily for a convenience so that
Starting point is 00:58:36 that we like, like me convienes to gain to gain for my stability,
Starting point is 00:58:43 no. The human we have to be definitely intelligent for that
Starting point is 00:58:48 in moments in moments in moments real of our life, you're having a
Starting point is 00:58:54 conversation almost almost everything what we have to have a part
Starting point is 00:59:00 technique a a part where you talk, where you're
Starting point is 00:59:02 where you projectas and many times it's a word
Starting point is 00:59:08 in terms that detects that not you're talking
Starting point is 00:59:11 not stories fictitious many many that that that
Starting point is 00:59:18 that that is to help to do what you
Starting point is 00:59:21 you not necessarily not necessarily the people always
Starting point is 00:59:26 always always I'm not I want to this that my question
Starting point is 00:59:31 to me was totally completely abirt All my that I've I've
Starting point is 00:59:36 in all these moments have been reales of my life because
Starting point is 00:59:41 I'm project some a little that to be to someone
Starting point is 00:59:49 to someone to to be the forms that I have to be for my
Starting point is 00:59:54 life that not necessarily is the the life of this existence
Starting point is 00:59:59 has to have to be people that have given have givens others
Starting point is 01:00:05 but but I'll I'm the same termino that I've learned in the
Starting point is 01:00:09 is it's according who every every person every person,
Starting point is 01:00:16 every different manner is the state of information that I'm
Starting point is 01:00:21 from that the information that you have you have to be
Starting point is 01:00:26 terms real you have fundamental in something that
Starting point is 01:00:31 that is real how fundamental in something that's real. You know you have to
Starting point is 01:00:36 acquire the knowledge of whatever thing that you agree to you have to do it. And if you
Starting point is 01:00:44 don't you do it, then really, you're really to be to a person. That's I think you know
Starting point is 01:00:50 that we know we're that that if you do you to do you a, a thing
Starting point is 01:00:56 and not you do you don't you going to do you're going to do you're to be to be a
Starting point is 01:00:59 result. There are that some the things, not being so realist,
Starting point is 01:01:06 not being so honest, and there there's question of the universe, question of, question of,
Starting point is 01:01:13 no- -se, divine, it can be. In fin, a me has been in
Starting point is 01:01:19 my life, I can, I can callific more above of the
Starting point is 01:01:24 100. I, the expectative of my time, in some
Starting point is 01:01:29 in, in, some moments of my life, I'd I'm to
Starting point is 01:01:32 the end up because I know, and why I do you know that because
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm in the thing I'm in some things that I don't project, and that's when you
Starting point is 01:01:44 you project you, you're going up escalones, you project, let's all the
Starting point is 01:01:51 necessary, all the kilos, all the guyeta, and of you, you're
Starting point is 01:01:56 because, discover that's because of other person? That's
Starting point is 01:01:59 this is going to pass constantly to someone. Yeah, because really we we're not to know if someone will say,
Starting point is 01:02:06 but to know the person the person, the learn, the is that's that's that always going to find obstacles,
Starting point is 01:02:11 that's, that's, that's, you're going to get to you're going to do things, and that's,
Starting point is 01:02:16 I consider it, is part of, it's part of, for, to get to to get to in, in,
Starting point is 01:02:23 in, in, in, the, of the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:02:25 of the, the, the, , the, In the humanity. Well, well,
Starting point is 01:02:27 in the movie of blood for the life is a
Starting point is 01:02:31 real a real and it is the reality if you have to be
Starting point is 01:02:34 to to do you to do to do all to all
Starting point is 01:02:40 what you do I have a I have
Starting point is 01:02:44 a very you remember? You have a question but
Starting point is 01:02:51 really a very very Yeah, if I remember, no I see, I, according I, I'm over it,
Starting point is 01:03:00 in some moment of my life, that I came of the cabo, what I want to say, for many people who, that,
Starting point is 01:03:06 that I've heard to talk of and me have about, that I'm that I'm going, that I'm in alt and I'm
Starting point is 01:03:14 about of the year 2009, 2010, some, and no me it does
Starting point is 01:03:21 a repugn't to say it even I'm even I'm even
Starting point is 01:03:25 one of my one of my kids to the I'm not the
Starting point is 01:03:29 I'm not I'm really I know I know
Starting point is 01:03:34 because he was a man he was a man
Starting point is 01:03:38 he was I did you know that the business
Starting point is 01:03:43 of the little a company a small very very advanced
Starting point is 01:03:47 he had obviously had battled much, but yeah
Starting point is 01:03:51 was well I'm well I'm going to I'm even I'm even I'm
Starting point is 01:03:55 even I know that I'm about the I'm directly. I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:04:00 I'm I'm so you I'm down. And then I did I make the
Starting point is 01:04:06 commentio that the emotions the emotions for very very strong that
Starting point is 01:04:10 you're in the way before before to this this
Starting point is 01:04:16 this this this story was very very Now I feel like
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, it's me facilitated more And it's that He has been Solted Tanto Or with people
Starting point is 01:04:27 that I've been identified to have been I've been I've my my son- for three
Starting point is 01:04:35 years and I know know where I'm thought that I'm a man to be a man chas
Starting point is 01:04:42 to be my life for so I said I'm abortamated and
Starting point is 01:04:47 I said to say it to say it That that made to get me to be the
Starting point is 01:04:51 cabal of the word that I'm saying that I'm to say, I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:04:58 I'm made the I'm when I'm to make it and I did the in my
Starting point is 01:05:06 business, but of a way of a repented so of the a lot of two
Starting point is 01:05:09 months two months and a minute without so so I project it
Starting point is 01:05:14 without you this um um without thinking it, and without I'm
Starting point is 01:05:20 to see a a movement in my right. This movement only. One of the activities
Starting point is 01:05:29 that's me do much, I'm designator of mueles, I'm designator
Starting point is 01:05:33 of mueles, it's me do much the design. The manufacturing of a mueles
Starting point is 01:05:38 I've made from a from the and that is made that is made, I'm
Starting point is 01:05:44 made, I'm, I did in my in my company me did like
Starting point is 01:05:50 a kind of a kind of of my, of my, of my, and then I cut a
Starting point is 01:05:56 little, and then I started to my man so tembland. And, and I said, what,
Starting point is 01:06:03 what, what, what I'm saying the I'm saying, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:06:05 no, it's a thing, the man, he's, it's, is, is a large
Starting point is 01:06:12 the story, but the best of all. I'm And I And I very profoundly What I
Starting point is 01:06:21 I'm going to I'm I'm going to I never never knew what was depression was a man was a
Starting point is 01:06:28 character livian but at the very my vivences but I I'm saying that I know
Starting point is 01:06:34 I don't I want to I'm who still me listen those who are those
Starting point is 01:06:39 who are that they can't be in that can can
Starting point is 01:06:45 can function that can never you never you never never pered the faith
Starting point is 01:06:49 I never I felt terrible, very terrible that's a time of my life with what you
Starting point is 01:06:55 was the the worst the first time but you never you never saw nothing of him my
Starting point is 01:07:01 my much my macho my macho my he went to me and he
Starting point is 01:07:06 said oh la papa yeah I'm obviously obviously it was
Starting point is 01:07:12 like a a shock for me but an emotion Firm Firm, like
Starting point is 01:07:15 if me has gotten a lottery. And I and I and I see my mind,
Starting point is 01:07:20 the I'm the I'm the I'm to the fatality, to the
Starting point is 01:07:25 what on what? Why? Simple and simply I did thanks to God.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Sir, thank you. And in based to this history, what I just
Starting point is 01:07:36 I said, the I'm said that the best, I've been in many aspects of
Starting point is 01:07:41 my life, but the The best company of my life, and for many people,
Starting point is 01:07:46 I want to think to it's the family. It's the best thing you can't in your
Starting point is 01:07:51 your life. If you're a person list, you're astut, you're decided,
Starting point is 01:07:57 you're a person that you know, you're a person extrovertida. Not necessarily
Starting point is 01:08:02 you have to be like you. You're going to be a person exitosa.
Starting point is 01:08:07 All that's that's decided, will be a person is a
Starting point is 01:08:10 human, that is decided in your person, in the moment or no.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Obviously I'm a process. But the that's decided, the for
Starting point is 01:08:19 being a person exitosa, he will do you do that when so
Starting point is 01:08:22 you're to say, I'm going to be you see, you have to
Starting point is 01:08:27 you're to be a bkingo and say, I'm to do, and it's
Starting point is 01:08:33 like I always, almost I say that word, I'm going to this company.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I'm going to this, I'm going to this this determined system of things.
Starting point is 01:08:44 And I have resulted. I mean, the project to work function. For that's you're going
Starting point is 01:08:51 to fall to the cabo. Like me I'm I'm going to do you
Starting point is 01:08:54 want to do to be a first of a question. But I
Starting point is 01:08:59 know, I'm a lot of a lot of a lot of things
Starting point is 01:09:01 of success of my to let, well well for
Starting point is 01:09:07 much people will sound to like irisorio of a repent
Starting point is 01:09:10 my, my life are saying this this quoth you're to be the
Starting point is 01:09:13 guy's no, I'm know, for so I said and I'm
Starting point is 01:09:17 going to say. How was the re-enquential the scene? I'm the boy,
Starting point is 01:09:24 it was very special. Resulta that solito my muchachio and then
Starting point is 01:09:27 after was he was not his story I'm in the
Starting point is 01:09:33 parts of my life when I when I said I the pedestal,
Starting point is 01:09:38 always, I've , always , I used, when I took, when I
Starting point is 01:09:46 took time good, I did do properties, I did, I did a colchoncito, like
Starting point is 01:09:53 any person a a person, a, was a, a person of a
Starting point is 01:09:59 when he went to my he got like, like, like, like,
Starting point is 01:10:02 like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:10:07 because if I'd get a much. I'd say some of the quantities of the time in the lot of the
Starting point is 01:10:13 life in other in other areas of my life, I'd make many many times I'd
Starting point is 01:10:18 I'd a year in a year and I had a a house. A house and more
Starting point is 01:10:23 or less was a form of to medir my statistics my statistics of progress.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I said, I said, I'd come a property every year. And then then so,
Starting point is 01:10:36 in basis to that also, I mean, I'm that's your question.
Starting point is 01:10:39 The question is how was my reenquent. My reenquent was obviously very
Starting point is 01:10:43 very emosionate. Me about my my little, previous to get to to get to
Starting point is 01:10:50 get there to get there to that that car I'm I'm that
Starting point is 01:10:54 that house and I never I'm I'm I'm with the product
Starting point is 01:10:59 of a one one really. It's the luch my
Starting point is 01:11:03 compared me the the double debut, WWF, in the States of the United, that also in some point of my career,
Starting point is 01:11:12 the, I mean, to my character, and then they compared them to the Council of the Luched and I luched in Tijuana, in Tijuana, luched in 1997
Starting point is 01:11:25 against Rich Flair, against Rick Flair, and then I, I, gained the quantity sufficient as to compare that house in the
Starting point is 01:11:37 in the, in the, in the I'm actually. And in that same house
Starting point is 01:11:41 came to my son, that's the, that's the version real. He got,
Starting point is 01:11:47 he got, I'm going to get to go to the central camionerer because I'd
Starting point is 01:11:52 a tilichel incredible. I'd have to a, I'm a lot of,
Starting point is 01:11:56 and I did, well, I'm to go. The went to the
Starting point is 01:11:59 ranch, to the year? I'm just that my much had
Starting point is 01:12:02 had into the model and he's and more and more and I said how he did he
Starting point is 01:12:09 and he's to try to get to get to the carter's in the thing. It's the
Starting point is 01:12:13 way that in the city of Toluca and he did not that's before you
Starting point is 01:12:19 in Chihuahua and it went up up up I think that I've
Starting point is 01:12:23 battalliando I've I've talked of my story while he grew
Starting point is 01:12:27 I think my he said that my he thought that was that was
Starting point is 01:12:31 so to be to be that I had when I said that the
Starting point is 01:12:37 Lucha Libre yeah not was a question economic, yeah not
Starting point is 01:12:41 a good not a good and he hehol well, I think that he
Starting point is 01:12:47 never he has never said me he has never he said in the
Starting point is 01:12:51 actuality he's a company is a company he's of a
Starting point is 01:12:57 very he's not in all the things but he
Starting point is 01:13:01 is a viento in Popa to be a grand
Starting point is 01:13:04 an business obviously he I'm the systematic and what
Starting point is 01:13:12 I've said earlier I'm in him I'm a viking a
Starting point is 01:13:17 my I'm a he's he's called Arnold because in the times
Starting point is 01:13:22 that in the time that that was my he was a
Starting point is 01:13:27 physical a so there Carlito let share some
Starting point is 01:13:31 some there the Lucha Libre, I took another other other
Starting point is 01:13:35 physical of the but anteriorly to that's a physical an instructor me
Starting point is 01:13:42 dedicated much to the gymnasio, much, much, I'm and I really,
Starting point is 01:13:46 and I put Arnold to my son, was a fanatic of Arnold
Starting point is 01:13:51 Schwar that's yes, sir, he's he, he's a man,
Starting point is 01:13:55 he's he's he, definitely, definitely, my other his other one of the other
Starting point is 01:14:01 I was the when I was in the apogeo of my career when I put to a sundial
Starting point is 01:14:06 a little me put the same to study for my interviews to the point that
Starting point is 01:14:13 me the point that me they were that that was that
Starting point is 01:14:17 the culture viking of the that's me occurred in the
Starting point is 01:14:23 a name for my second his second my first of my
Starting point is 01:14:29 He was born, he's called Eric and he was Eric, because he's a person very known of the world of the culture
Starting point is 01:14:36 Viking, he put, so he's my second Eric, my second his second are kids. Are you?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Are you? Are you? So, are you? 29 years, 32 has Arnold, the major.
Starting point is 01:14:47 The that's projected to the life is Eric, but but there they're
Starting point is 01:14:53 they're because precisely in base to that is the relation
Starting point is 01:14:58 beautiful that I have with the mom of my children. I have a relation better
Starting point is 01:15:03 with the mother of my children in the actuality than when I
Starting point is 01:15:07 was my husband obviously there was a of his servidor that I
Starting point is 01:15:13 had many many things in my life I had carriading many many
Starting point is 01:15:18 systems and I wanted and I wanted to progress so
Starting point is 01:15:23 I'm I'm met a restaurant to the company Muebler, I was
Starting point is 01:15:31 an company of Luchelibre, I met to the company of the spectacle to do you
Starting point is 01:15:37 doves the under the doors of the progress in many areas and because
Starting point is 01:15:45 I thought this time I said if I think I to three a little I'm a
Starting point is 01:15:51 one. It was my form to think in that time it's that time. Well
Starting point is 01:15:57 me functioned In some way I've functioned. I'll you know, my
Starting point is 01:16:03 dearly there's, there's, there's there's, there's, no, and the
Starting point is 01:16:08 net, the people not the people, it's more that's my tich, that's the
Starting point is 01:16:13 thing, no, it's a not, he's, you know, you, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:21 the Aleman Fitch? The Aleman Fitch is, is he refers to
Starting point is 01:16:26 a system of a a, a, a old Fitch.
Starting point is 01:16:32 No, no, I know I, I know, I, I know the American,
Starting point is 01:16:35 in the arena Mexico, I'm, I know, the those luchaders
Starting point is 01:16:39 antivos, I go, of the times, of the 70s, I know, I'm,
Starting point is 01:16:46 Rubiski, a Franco Columbo, to, uh, the, uh, at the patron
Starting point is 01:16:51 Bonales, that were luchators, the of the times, the, luchaders,
Starting point is 01:16:57 that some of them were artists. But to the German Fitz, no, definitively, no, I never had the
Starting point is 01:17:04 good, not I knew the and I'm at some point of my career, if the sir,
Starting point is 01:17:11 me, of a repented, they were to get us asarched, like, like the
Starting point is 01:17:14 people, I've done working with artists, in the moments, in the moments spectaculares of your life,
Starting point is 01:17:20 that you, you, you, you, you, you, are, firmes,
Starting point is 01:17:23 in in a, in, in, in some point of your career that's glorious, so you're in a rimmed much people,
Starting point is 01:17:30 much, and then there's no way to go to work, to another, for another, to talk. And I've seen
Starting point is 01:17:36 that in the world of the spectacle of the music, they're arimms much to the artists. Yeah. Much, much, much, much,
Starting point is 01:17:42 much, much, much, much, and obviously, everyone, everyone, they're, like, to,
Starting point is 01:17:47 make questions, to, make questions, to, but, but, but, maybe,
Starting point is 01:17:52 it could be In some moment, they Acerc- They're Acercored Artists Acercercerner
Starting point is 01:17:57 At least Midias Mides RAS Artists Feminas Mm-hmm Mm-hmm In their
Starting point is 01:18:06 moment And so, as like I said that's me, some people and
Starting point is 01:18:12 I'm came political to, well, I'm to make petitions
Starting point is 01:18:17 a but me I'm Firmes, pardon, I was a firm in my convictions personal.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Aparted that in that I was a man, I was a professional luchistically, but was firm in my convictions personal. The fact is that was that I'm inamorado
Starting point is 01:18:34 of my, I was in amovable of my spouse, we had in that time, in the time I'm, I'm in my
Starting point is 01:18:44 apogeal, in real, of the Lucho Liberty, that was the time of the viking
Starting point is 01:18:50 was from the 92 to 95, My achitosa, my career, very exitosa, because it was very solicited at a level world. I was solicited for
Starting point is 01:18:58 many areas of the world. I think it was for my performance. I think it was for me the personage. Much of my person, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:08 and as a man, much I'm a new in the area of the, of the company, no, I was to not.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Definitely, not said anything. Administrative not I know, um, desemvolver
Starting point is 01:19:24 in the world of the economy, no, I know what I see right. No,
Starting point is 01:19:29 I repent are, they're, so, so, some, so, like you
Starting point is 01:19:35 know, my dear, Carlitos. Oye, again, once, you've
Starting point is 01:19:38 ever, you know, yeah, what I'm, no, I'm not I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:43 I'm recommend, but I, I'm in some moment of my bit, I,
Starting point is 01:19:49 the, the, the cannabis, I provere the cannabis, provere the cocaine, I proved. No, me da a pain to say it.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Thanks a God, me sostupe in the process of my life, to learn, and it was a way
Starting point is 01:20:05 to learn to me. When I went to moments very emotional, obviously,
Starting point is 01:20:12 they were people, me offered and like some, like, like, some,
Starting point is 01:20:17 of moments to others, then I know I In the moment I just I felt with a
Starting point is 01:20:24 kind of a kind of a kind of like in the time that I made the cocaine I felt like
Starting point is 01:20:31 like that my mentality pastada of when was a person oversalient because in the
Starting point is 01:20:40 time that me passed I still I'm like carriando depression so I felt like
Starting point is 01:20:47 I was something in the actuality, I consider that I don't
Starting point is 01:20:50 I'm for nothing. For nothing of motivations, of the substances,
Starting point is 01:20:57 stupacients, no, not they're not they need they need for nothing. With the pure coffee.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Fikate that coffee I'm a little, but, but much, very very very
Starting point is 01:21:06 so much, much, so much, so, yeah, what, what, what were,
Starting point is 01:21:12 what were, the, were the casticulations, yeah, that's, that's It's a part
Starting point is 01:21:18 very important of my career. Finkense that that that's that has much to be with the
Starting point is 01:21:25 techniques that you use for the company. Obviously, it was a person representable
Starting point is 01:21:30 a person racy. I for nothing was racy in my life real, but one
Starting point is 01:21:35 once, one a bit of the rin, I, I've got to do some expressions,
Starting point is 01:21:40 some expressions those, like, like, many grotesques, very grotesques, very, very,
Starting point is 01:21:47 very, very, very, very, very gachas. Why? Because, because you
Starting point is 01:21:51 they're no? No, it was, it was, it was, it's, it's a
Starting point is 01:21:55 specific, the Luch Libre, is, is, it's, a, so,
Starting point is 01:22:02 ching-on for, very ching-on, for, for, by, by, my person,
Starting point is 01:22:06 is, is, it's, it's, it's, mimica, is, you're,
Starting point is 01:22:13 you're, an part, an actor, but an actor, but an actor, a emotions, that project emotions, and
Starting point is 01:22:19 from there, the a yes, the gesticulations. If you know, if you're doing, you know, sharmaromas, you know, you know, to start, you
Starting point is 01:22:26 know, you, receive you , you know, it's a motion to the people. If, if, really remember the
Starting point is 01:22:34 , when I felt I, that I was when I did my, my gesticulations, I remember the first time
Starting point is 01:22:41 that I, that I, the first part of that's what I just asked to ask you I was against the
Starting point is 01:22:49 Mr. Piero, that was one of the of the most of the other of the
Starting point is 01:22:53 other I'm, the Mr. Pierrot. Incluso me served like,
Starting point is 01:22:58 me, me, me, served like, me, I, learned, I,
Starting point is 01:23:03 gave him, many, many, many, many, many, many, was,
Starting point is 01:23:05 he, he's, he's he, he, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:23:10 uh, he, he did, much, many, me, served much
Starting point is 01:23:16 he I'm in part many things of my career to the
Starting point is 01:23:19 I'm still he he I'm I'm I'm know
Starting point is 01:23:23 I'm know so I'm coming to make me he
Starting point is 01:23:28 he a like a like a person I'm
Starting point is 01:23:35 I've I I'm a person altive but but the
Starting point is 01:23:40 very much chingon with me the doors of his house in the
Starting point is 01:23:47 and a past of I'm many of I'm always a really I'm a
Starting point is 01:23:51 technical, they're like as a technical because in the area in the area of
Starting point is 01:23:54 being so are parts that project you. It's like a like a
Starting point is 01:24:00 a a like a a a and that's what you do you
Starting point is 01:24:05 project in the life even even I'm the last
Starting point is 01:24:09 the people opinion I often in other interviews
Starting point is 01:24:11 that I had people me, I said, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:15 I'm , because the fact, I'm a problem with my husband, and now,
Starting point is 01:24:19 thanks to you, now I'm a lot of my wife. Why, why, I mean,
Starting point is 01:24:23 the really, I came to say to my husband, he was going to do you to do a
Starting point is 01:24:29 pererod. And I'm, no, no, that's here that's a situation like that,
Starting point is 01:24:35 many, many, many, many comments. But what did you do you did it?
Starting point is 01:24:37 Well, well, well, well, I'm the the hospital, the year, in the
Starting point is 01:24:42 times that we know we know we've got not we're not a lot of the same the sir, he's exceded
Starting point is 01:24:46 with me, he's precisely and the sir Lutero, there was at the end of the scenario, of the quadrilatero
Starting point is 01:24:53 me, me said, me he said, come back back. And I'm he said, what you're doing,
Starting point is 01:24:58 me said, what I'm doing? I'm, I'm like, you're doing, you're doing, you're trying you're,
Starting point is 01:25:05 I'm sorry, you're saying, and you, me said, this power, and you you, you're
Starting point is 01:25:11 you're one of you're you're or you know, or it doesn't you're in
Starting point is 01:25:16 the carer Andy Virga convert me he's a monster
Starting point is 01:25:20 to be a not from never never never no no I
Starting point is 01:25:23 I'll I'm I'm the in the statistics in the period
Starting point is 01:25:28 in the revista saw the the story the he
Starting point is 01:25:32 he's he posioned he he he he got a
Starting point is 01:25:35 chingada I yeah we we got we a
Starting point is 01:25:38 a lotchator has conditions, has a preparation for to be a weapon letal,
Starting point is 01:25:43 it's the mere, it's the people who me listen and the people who have
Starting point is 01:25:48 been trained even that's a little a little of the little to be going to say about
Starting point is 01:25:52 what I'm saying and it's a discipline real, real, what what you did you really
Starting point is 01:26:00 that really you're I've been to finded out of the ring the event to be
Starting point is 01:26:03 to finde to not, no, no, no, no, like a the
Starting point is 01:26:06 was a person was a person was a 109 kilos. The sir had to have been a 120 kilos,
Starting point is 01:26:12 but I'm favor of the condition. It was a bendition for me. It's a of those people who
Starting point is 01:26:19 really very very strong physically. The people that were saying, oh yeah, well,
Starting point is 01:26:23 you know, never, I never, I never me put nothing in my physical. He had a lot of
Starting point is 01:26:29 the pastillas, to the asteroids, to the amphetamines. I, I, rechasable
Starting point is 01:26:34 totally because I thought that with my meros with that I'm not to get to
Starting point is 01:26:39 get to the physical. Not are those physical impressive so very voluminos because they're
Starting point is 01:26:44 like retenaders of liquids that I don't I recommend for sure but they are used
Starting point is 01:26:49 in the actuality even and so and that he's socied to the
Starting point is 01:26:55 man I was I'm I'm I'm going to the chingadasos
Starting point is 01:27:00 and it's convitio in a luch very gacha I'm going to gocha, because the
Starting point is 01:27:06 people were endemoneately grittando, I was in the most, but I'm eventing-aventangelo to the sir, and came out and it felled mal, he desmayed, he dismayed,
Starting point is 01:27:20 me, and then, they were to be to call the attention, me said, that me contubed that if it was, it was,
Starting point is 01:27:27 I was going, to get the foie, but also, that not so me would be a part, the part professional. Technical. A,
Starting point is 01:27:34 never to forget for much for much for much for much for much
Starting point is 01:27:37 for much for me for my he's a professional that's a in him in him
Starting point is 01:27:43 in he there's the life there's the other person there have been there
Starting point is 01:27:50 has passed accidents around to have been on a cordated and they're
Starting point is 01:27:54 have fallen have fallen cause of of that the same he's he
Starting point is 01:27:59 said this what age you do you do you like those mores, oh,
Starting point is 01:28:04 Javier, how he said, like, like, like he said, he said, he's always me,
Starting point is 01:28:10 he said, he said, it's of those, it's of the things that they're of a sudden, of it,
Starting point is 01:28:16 uh, don't you don't you don't, no, no, but it's a, it's a,
Starting point is 01:28:20 it's a part media, a question, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:26 no, I, don't, I'm, no, necessarily me, I'm,
Starting point is 01:28:28 not necessarily, I, I'm, with, with muchachitas, with muchachitas, no, no,
Starting point is 01:28:34 I never pretend to, uh, never pretend to have relations, uh, any, uh, any,
Starting point is 01:28:39 a little bit of no, no, no, I've been, I've been, I've been a time,
Starting point is 01:28:48 I've been a type traviso, mm, so I've done, but I've done, I've done, I've done
Starting point is 01:28:53 to get a grab like, doing a, so, and doing a type of a bit of some kind of
Starting point is 01:28:57 consequence, and, I, I, as I feel very firm as in my convictions personal I'm the really,
Starting point is 01:29:03 I don't see, no, I see, this, like, to be, uh, a bit of,
Starting point is 01:29:08 you know, they're in the actuality. Like, they can't get a person, also they're to put a
Starting point is 01:29:13 thing, but the age, yeah, I'm, oh, my, my,
Starting point is 01:29:19 my, that's a good, that's a good, you know, you, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:24 you're, you're, my, look, my, carthito, I've seen,
Starting point is 01:29:28 seora, I've I've seen people of 60 years, super-attractive and I've
Starting point is 01:29:32 seen muchachies young, youngs of 35, 40 years, well, I'm a pain to
Starting point is 01:29:40 say it, so, physically, physically, much, much, much, less than
Starting point is 01:29:46 than, that, in- the age, not is because you go to the
Starting point is 01:29:50 question, but the age, not has much to be. Okay. The
Starting point is 01:29:53 personality, the personality, is what, is what, is what, is what, is what,
Starting point is 01:29:57 it is what, it, is what, is what, it Well, there to go to the
Starting point is 01:30:01 question more specific. Okay. The most young, the most young,
Starting point is 01:30:05 the more, and that's the churro. Chiras, pears. Oh, I, carho.
Starting point is 01:30:13 No, well, like, like, the net, the net. The net, the net,
Starting point is 01:30:18 like, as, as, as, all the professionals, like I, no,
Starting point is 01:30:24 we don't, no, we don't, that type of memory, no. A, a caballero
Starting point is 01:30:28 no, has memory. That's real. That is real. No, is that the question, but no, we don't,
Starting point is 01:30:33 we don't, we're not, we're not, because many times, uh, cause us a species of,
Starting point is 01:30:41 uh, of, uh, a, a person, so, so, that's,
Starting point is 01:30:47 the, that's, the way, I'm abortably, the, the caballeros, no, we're not
Starting point is 01:30:51 memory. Anim. But, but even we're not, we're not we don't we don't, for nothing,
Starting point is 01:30:55 for nothing, the attraction to our, to our, to the, a, a,
Starting point is 01:31:01 the people, like I, always, always, has been, like, like, we,
Starting point is 01:31:08 like, we, the, is the real real , so, but
Starting point is 01:31:12 always, simply, I'm very, always, I'm, I'm, they're,
Starting point is 01:31:16 they're, they're, they're, they're, they're gonna, they're, they're, they're
Starting point is 01:31:21 they're in, they're my in a one occasion she said a man a man chero
Starting point is 01:31:26 the fact I'm a question I'm a little a little an example of this is caro ah
Starting point is 01:31:33 guafel you can no this no this is caro and not and I not me refer
Starting point is 01:31:38 to the money I'm he said he said he he has he had
Starting point is 01:31:44 the the he's polacko I think you're they're like
Starting point is 01:31:49 they're like a kind of a kind of kind of Oh, Cabier, now
Starting point is 01:31:57 if he'll take the water and me do you go to make a minute. Oh, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:04 this boy, that's called that's that's that's done, boy, oh, caro.
Starting point is 01:32:13 What question don't do you? No, the I said, the people here,
Starting point is 01:32:16 man, man, yeah, yeah, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:32:20 so, so, so, Immediately. No, the fact I'm going to get to
Starting point is 01:32:24 get to a bit of a bit of a bit of I'm not I'm or not quite or not
Starting point is 01:32:29 I'm not a macana man who said, has evaded various questions to be
Starting point is 01:32:37 a a point no, I'm I'm really, I'm realist oh
Starting point is 01:32:39 I'm real there, oh, there's there, there says here
Starting point is 01:32:45 the the the best an an anecdote with an artist that you've had to terminate, the best
Starting point is 01:32:54 anecdote of my life. Hymol, if I've had been various anecdotes in my life, I've
Starting point is 01:33:01 an anecdote a media rara, media rara. I was in the year 2005, I remember
Starting point is 01:33:11 perfectly. I'm, I was, I was, I was designated to look to to Valentin,
Starting point is 01:33:18 always me said, me said, the Mr. Canito, of the
Starting point is 01:33:22 company Delpho, he said, never you get to get to get him. I don't want to because a
Starting point is 01:33:27 lot of people know. A artiste causes many sensations, much sensations. This has to be
Starting point is 01:33:32 much with the question. Causa much sensations in the public. One of
Starting point is 01:33:36 the questions for the most of the artiste is for celos. And he no, he know,
Starting point is 01:33:43 he doesn't cause them cause them those artists. The muchas emosioning
Starting point is 01:33:46 that they are they they're trying to the clas they're they're vent and they're
Starting point is 01:33:51 they're venting and a sometimes they're that they're a newio, to be a old.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I was designated for various circumstances in a occasion for that for so
Starting point is 01:34:02 I was designated to be a bigado to be and he and no titoia
Starting point is 01:34:07 for nothing. In an occasion no he'd a a one
Starting point is 01:34:13 a one a a one a He said, Viking, I'm being a repented to have you
Starting point is 01:34:18 have you brought, look the madraso, he's a guy, he's a little bit a little bit a little bit to do you,
Starting point is 01:34:24 look at what me happened. And what you always me says, that here, even I don't me look,
Starting point is 01:34:30 even I know, I'm going, I'm just, I'm, okay, because we're our most
Starting point is 01:34:35 we're not, because we're not so so much to be able to to talk with the when they're
Starting point is 01:34:41 when you not to not to you, not to all you guys you, because he,
Starting point is 01:34:45 he, he, he, he, he didn't know I know a vizio, but his vizio
Starting point is 01:34:49 were the women, and he said, is that they may offeres viking, they're saying, they're not
Starting point is 01:34:55 what they are so, but, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, because you
Starting point is 01:34:59 can't be that you're that I'm know that I'm , exactly, well, then we're,
Starting point is 01:35:04 we're, in, in Casas Grands, Chihuahua, uh, yeah, he had terminated
Starting point is 01:35:11 his, his routine, of can't and they were some those polonones impressive that were
Starting point is 01:35:17 to take photos in a time, not they were photos selfies or with cameras. They were cameras.
Starting point is 01:35:24 They were cameras. They were cameras. They were cameras of rolloo or cameras instantanias we'regamous for petition
Starting point is 01:35:32 of Valentin and then as I was a peggatito with him he's acer a man and he said
Starting point is 01:35:39 I want a photo, I want a photo but with him and And, well, it's the
Starting point is 01:35:46 anecdote. He's a old person with me. He was a person with me. And I'm going to be.
Starting point is 01:35:53 And I'm, I'm in the and I'm going to let's go it. Like, so. Why? I want a
Starting point is 01:36:00 photo? I want a photo with him. He's, he's also he's a little, he's not.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Here the artist is I'm and me said, and me said, quitate. Me said, me dishe, me said, me get to the
Starting point is 01:36:11 verga, loco. Yes, yeah. And, obviously I really felt a chicotazzo. That is the end of my life.
Starting point is 01:36:16 No, it's not. I'm not. There's a lot of your stuff. It's a little rarrow the issue. I put there and puttie a
Starting point is 01:36:26 photo. Me said, Canyto. I got the camera for I to get the photo to be a photo to be
Starting point is 01:36:32 a little activity that so citar and still on the same me says, me says, it's valiant
Starting point is 01:36:38 v'rka, viking. So, so-all- And then And then more, the more
Starting point is 01:36:46 grandotte And I I'm gonna I'm gonna What's What's, What's What's,
Starting point is 01:36:51 What's, I'm, I'm, I'm, Myroup But I We're We're
Starting point is 01:36:58 We're We're In the Magerer Because I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:37:02 I'm I'm A chingadas But duro Of people he's He's There
Starting point is 01:37:07 There's There was There's There's There's Exactly professional and that not had a
Starting point is 01:37:14 idea of nothing. The really is that's like it's my profile of that
Starting point is 01:37:18 then I think I would be around around between 33, 33, 34, 33, 37 years.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Around the age, they were in the abogued of my life, physicaluristic and so
Starting point is 01:37:29 and then then then me quit another other, other another
Starting point is 01:37:34 that's also was the the company, Diego Diego Rami
Starting point is 01:37:37 me me went to come back and come to come
Starting point is 01:37:42 the Valet, termino, in that rato, he said, let me, he's suburb. He was seen, in the other
Starting point is 01:37:49 suburb, and she ran, she went, acto the second, no passed any five minutes, and I,
Starting point is 01:37:58 the fact, I'm, the fact, that was, that was, a question, for me. Yes,
Starting point is 01:38:03 a, man. And the fact, and the fact I, and the truth is that I'm,
Starting point is 01:38:08 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to quit people so,
Starting point is 01:38:12 and they had with pistolas to get to turn manotasos never never was I'm
Starting point is 01:38:19 with a no cargamous not cargamous but if I risked the bottleazos
Starting point is 01:38:27 bottelazos peddras by the carretera yeah when you're you're going to cross
Starting point is 01:38:33 a vehicle or people that kind of the the event so there there are
Starting point is 01:38:38 many things of the people are in the world of the spectator but to the
Starting point is 01:38:42 I refer to really to this. Not you done any five minutes. So, Valentin, obviously I
Starting point is 01:38:48 sent to the rethast of all the whole, I'm sentia so like a corralado,
Starting point is 01:38:52 me dear rarro. He back, he in his caronet and he he was
Starting point is 01:38:57 he was he was he not, he's back in ching and I go to this batos
Starting point is 01:39:03 vows, he's over from me I'm, I'm did he so he he's
Starting point is 01:39:07 so he he's he's par so in front of me hey Viking
Starting point is 01:39:11 come I said, you know, a pen no, I was to say, I said, oh, I'm, cabron,
Starting point is 01:39:19 so, were those words, that's the most of the end of the life. Pardoname.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Me, I did get to get to the emotions, no see what me but the really,
Starting point is 01:39:29 I'm, I'm a time, and the really, is a person importantisim in my
Starting point is 01:39:34 life. That's, that just, that just, that just, not just, just, not just,
Starting point is 01:39:38 the, the sentiment real to him, me also a kind of a special in my
Starting point is 01:39:43 life in my person. Because what's the value of that's even after I'm started to say, they're talking about
Starting point is 01:39:51 about it's that's about. He said, he's made this he said, he said, oh, this,
Starting point is 01:39:58 if just, if just, this, what's, if, just, this, he's,
Starting point is 01:40:00 he's he's hugged, he's, he's, he's, he's, has pegged over from,
Starting point is 01:40:05 from people who has been over, he's over, he's been, he's been cantando of people that has subbed
Starting point is 01:40:11 to attack me. In that time, they were in that the time, they were in the time, I never,
Starting point is 01:40:17 I never, I got, I, I'd, I'd, and I'd have, and they'd
Starting point is 01:40:22 with the same and the just, and me just, and me, me,
Starting point is 01:40:26 kind of, and I'm doing, they'd be, they'd do a bit to do, obviously,
Starting point is 01:40:31 not was my intention, but there was there was people, in that kind of, he, he,
Starting point is 01:40:36 he, very, very attacked. Val, it was a maybe not said, not that's
Starting point is 01:40:44 in the social, or in his history, but I, that I'm there, I'm doing,
Starting point is 01:40:48 I, did I, four years, when he did the thing that I was that I was
Starting point is 01:40:55 contracted, I was contracted, for a, for a, a, for the senior to know
Starting point is 01:41:01 to know, and he gave me a permission to Valé, in Kuatemu, Chihuahua. He said,
Starting point is 01:41:05 hey, you, passing to a other comment you know, you know, it's
Starting point is 01:41:13 made, I'm made the petition of the person who are an opportunity new in my career,
Starting point is 01:41:19 still still I think he and he he said, and he said, put the guyo of away.
Starting point is 01:41:25 That was expression. Pondel the gaio of the old, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:41:29 I'm, in the Lucho Libre, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:41:32 no, it's, no, it's, it's a thing, that they,
Starting point is 01:41:36 They've designed a project in base to the element and their movements, your personality they're doing,
Starting point is 01:41:42 and so is how it's how it's how it's like in the world of the music that in that's not
Starting point is 01:41:48 that's not that's so I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm I'm much I'm a
Starting point is 01:41:55 question. A good a good a good important for you for you for you
Starting point is 01:41:59 to do you to share to the people that you that's a
Starting point is 01:42:02 person to the public that you're is is the best the best
Starting point is 01:42:07 the point to make the question that I'm to give my experiences
Starting point is 01:42:14 is this this you know you can't do anything anything you
Starting point is 01:42:19 can you can't think and think and vision
Starting point is 01:42:27 and things but really the best the project of
Starting point is 01:42:32 your life is your family when you when you're when you're
Starting point is 01:42:36 when you never never you ever never you take the other person take a time take the person take the value
Starting point is 01:42:46 and tell the what you feel what you see what you see what you see if you're making you know you don't you think
Starting point is 01:42:54 initiative that is the the best commentio that's thank you and much thanks thanks for
Starting point is 01:43:01 your invitation much thanks for for being here, and much sabidurial with you. It's
Starting point is 01:43:06 there's to start to start to learn to and the really, yeah, and also
Starting point is 01:43:10 also to say, you know, I'm doing the last you about the much of the much of the
Starting point is 01:43:16 yeah, that's you have to try it. I imagine that you have tried
Starting point is 01:43:20 much, no, but, but, it's thank you thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Much thanks here, here, thank you all thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:43:29 thank you us. Benditions for all the social. We're not in the media and the
Starting point is 01:43:34 other people. I'm a good for the servant. There's a troy. A'clock. A bit of the
Starting point is 01:43:41 little. The bestito real, no, Negro. Where? Where? Where? You do.
Starting point is 01:43:47 In the meh in the mejia not more more than you don't know play, there we're talking
Starting point is 01:43:54 there's time there's after we fresh my my love. That's entertaining
Starting point is 01:44:00 a man. That's good. Much much much knowledge.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Well, there's a person there's there. There's I've known
Starting point is 01:44:13 I've known I know.

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