Love Life with Matthew Hussey - Get Over The One That Got Away And Heal Matt Monday
Episode Date: January 11, 2026Breakups can flip your whole world upside down, and in this week’s video, Matthew and Jay Shetty get real about what those moments actually feel like. They discuss why healing doesn’t follow a tim...eline, and why some seasons of pain simply have to be lived through at their own pace.They also talk about how heartbreak can shape you in unexpected ways and why “right person, wrong time” doesn’t exist. Don’t miss this honest conversation between two friends about finding strength in the very moments you wish you could fast-forward.---►► Never Face Your Love Life Alone Again Try Matthew AI for FREE: AskMH.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Let's talk a bit about breakups because it seems to be a path that you have to walk and have to take.
And there's no real acceleration or there's not, as you said, there's not like, I'm going to get over this breakup in three months, right?
There's no timeline or deadline that you can set on it.
But it's just uncomfortable and it's almost like sitting in discomfort.
What do we do when we're sitting in that discomfort?
Well, when you're in the depths of it, because there's different phases, right?
like there's certainly a phase of any heartbreak when it's genuine deep heartbreak where you are
just questioning your existence where you are like I this you know I remember having my own
heartbroken and sitting on the door the doorstep of my house with a friend of mine and just with
tears in my eyes saying to him I just feel like I'm not good enough like that was my
sense was that I am not good enough and if I was good enough I would have been able to make
this work and and that's a it's a horrible place to be and you know we have to have
compassion for ourselves in those times because it's brutally difficult it's a time where
we just need love and we need to celebrate the fact that we got through a
another day and that we got and managed to get out of bed today. And, you know, it was a act of,
it was a heroic act for me to just get out of bed. We then have to, you know, I always think that
all of these moments give us gears that we wouldn't have had otherwise. And the worst pain of my
life has given me access to gears that I didn't know I had. And as much as
no one wants to hear it when they're in it, those gears turn out to be really valuable.
They really do. I mean, we all choose suffering in our lives. Like we choose to go to the gym.
That's choosing suffering. We choose like to write a book. That's choosing a form of suffering.
We choose to make a podcast or we choose to climb a literal mountain or like we choose pain in our
lives regularly because we know that it gives us there are benefits to be had. I have to argue that
the benefit I have gotten from the pain that I didn't choose has been no less valuable than the
benefit I've gotten from the pain I did choose. In fact, actually, I think the most valuable pain
I've ever had is the pain I didn't choose. And when you realize that, you can kind of almost,
I think, look at some of the worst moments of your life.
as like a menu of pain.
And beside the item on the menu is the very specific unique benefits
that can only come from this kind of pain.
And you can kind of imagine yourself choosing,
like retroactively choosing that pain,
which is a very valuable thing to do
because I was told by a psychologist about an experiment on rats
where one rat was on a wheel
and was just given, you know, like the free reign to just run whenever it wanted to run.
There was another rat.
This was rat A.
Rat B was connected to that wheel.
He was on another wheel that was connected to rat A's wheel.
And any time rat A chose to run, rat B had to run.
Right?
So both doing the same amount of exercising.
But at the end of the experiment,
rat A shows all the positive markers of exercise, and rat B shows all the negative markers of
stress.
Oh, wow.
Same amount of exercise was the difference.
Well, rat A chose to run.
Rat B didn't.
And there's something profound about that to me, because if we can take a situation that
that we didn't choose, who would choose to be heartbroken, right?
It's the worst.
It's a terrible pain.
But what if in that pain you...
did realize like there is something here that I'm going to gain from this experience that I
couldn't have any other way that if I look on that menu of pain, this one has some really good
benefits. Like this one has some really amazing stuff. Who I'm going to have to become to get
through this. What I'm going to have to learn, the way I'm going to have to get comfortable, even
just to get through a weekend right now on my own is it is going to be this unbelievable feat
and to get comfortable in my own company and to sit in this pain and there are such profound
benefits from that what if i did actually look at those benefits and say they're so powerful
that i'm going to choose this pain so that i can experience those benefits and so you you turn yourself
from rat B to rat A.
And all of a sudden, you're not a victim of that pain anymore.
You're the beneficiary of these exquisite gifts that you could only get this way.
And that's only, there's one tool I've used to get through some of the worst, worst pain
of my life.
And then on a practical, on a psychological level with heartbreak, what I always remind people
is that if anyone who doesn't choose you cannot be for you,
if they don't see you,
like what is a relationship?
It's someone sees you,
they accept you and they want that.
That's the most beautiful part of a relationship.
So if someone doesn't see you and accept you and want what they see,
then this relationship is missing the most beautiful part of any relationship.
It shouldn't even be, you know,
it shouldn't be desirable at that stage because it's not, it has failed the fundamental test of
what makes a relationship worth having. We're not talking about a person who, you know, in at least
the case I feel we're talking about, the person who was taken from us by life. We're talking
about a person who's just walking around somewhere still existing on the planet, but choosing not
to be with us. That should lose its romance to us.
you know and and to say well if that's the other game we play is if it was a different time in life
if they were a bit older they would have been ready to commit if they had been in different
phase where they weren't so busy with their work they might have had the space to really
give to this relationship but they said their work isn't allowing them to if it's like we go
through all these scenarios where it it forces us into this sad love song of right person wrong time
and that's a really like pernicious story.
That's a very dangerous story
because it takes what belongs in the realm of science fiction
and brings it into our reality.
When we're thinking about an X from like five years ago
and we're like, I miss them, I don't know what, you know,
you don't even know who they are anymore.
That was five years ago.
They're a different person now in many ways.
You're a different person now in any way.
If you got together now, you'd be getting together as different people.
You miss a ghost.
A person doesn't exist anymore in the way that you think they do.
And when you're saying, oh, if only we met five years from now, it would have worked.
In what parallel universe?
This is science fiction.
Like it's not, it didn't happen in this universe.
So it's like, it is wishing for a parallel universe.
universe where everything, all the dominoes unfolded in a different way. It's not this universe.
So we just, we have to get out of this mindset because it gets us brought into a science fiction
story that doesn't really exist. I don't believe in the right person at the wrong time.
It's the right person is right in their personality. They're ready. And their life is
compatible with yours. If you're missing one of those three things, then it's not the right person.
The right person has to be more than someone who you have a great time with and you like who
they are and have great conversation and great intimacy. That's not the only criteria for
someone who's right. So we have to stop telling ourselves the story that someone who, you know,
broke up with us or it was bad timing or whatever is the right person for us. That is a, that is just a
It is not reality.
The right person is the person it happens with.
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