Love Life with Matthew Hussey - How To Leave A Toxic Relationship For Good Rewind
Episode Date: January 11, 2026I’ve carefully designed these steps to address the stages you’ll go through. And while we all know this process can take an enormous amount of time to put into action, I hope these steps will serv...e as a compass that will keep you pointed toward your strength (in spite of any distractions the narcissist may try to throw your way). I also hope this episode provides you with strength, acceptance, peace, and progress as you finally move on with your life and remember what it feels like to be free from the coercive control of the narcissist in your life.P.S. Even if you’re not in this situation, learning these principles in advance may save you a lot of time and grief down the road. And if you are going through this right now? Please know you’re not alone. I’m right here with you.---►► Looking for love, clarity, or a fresh perspective? Matthew’s weekly newsletter dives into insights that transform not just your relationships, but your entire life. Sign up for free at TheThreeRelationships.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What happens when the most painful relationship you've ever had is the one you're still in?
And yet, you cannot seem to leave.
If you're that person, you know how it feels.
To be with someone who consistently doesn't meet your needs and doesn't just fall short of them,
disregards them, gaslights you and makes you feel insane for wanting or needing those things.
someone who lies to you consistently.
And yet, something inside you continues to hold on.
Continues to hold on to the hope that one day this person may change.
Holds on to the idea that you can weather the storm
or that enough therapy will help you get strong enough to deal with it
or help them to change these patterns that have always been there.
Holds on to the idea that if you could just,
fix this one thing about this person, you would finally have the life you want with them.
I want to give you seven things that are not only designed to help you in a situation like this,
but if you listen to all seven in order, do not skip ahead in this video, watch it in order,
and do not cut this video off halfway, because I have thought about this a great deal in my life.
And the seven steps that I'm about to give you, model the different stages and the thoughts that you go through in the order that they arise.
Number one is assume this person will never change. Now, why do that? I come from a line of work where I have to believe that people change.
Otherwise, why would I do what I do? My whole speaking career, writing career, YouTube career is all predicated on.
the idea that people can change. And yet, being in a situation with someone who has shown us the same
patterns over and over again, over a long timeline, and thinking that they are suddenly going to
behave out of character is one of the most dangerous things we can do. My dear friend Dr. Romney
would say that when it comes to narcissists, they will never change. And you have to accept
that about them. Now, this video isn't designed to be a video about narcissists, but no doubt so many
of you will relate to what I'm saying here through the lens of having dealt with a narcissist.
What I want us to do is act more empirically. Empiricism is acting on experience. What is my
experience of this person? When I look at all of their behaviors over time, have they really
ever deviated from these behaviors. Maybe after certain arguments or after certain threats,
they deviated for a moment. But if that was just a momentary spike on the graph, and then they
returned to their baseline, and that baseline is what they've been over time, then whether or not
you ever see them as a narcissist, you can empirically say, what makes me think that they are going
be any different just because a new year comes around or just because I argue with them a slightly
different way. You've probably done all the things that you could do to try to motivate this person
to change. You've probably shown them tears, anger, depression, sadness, fear, every different
range of emotion that could show them what their behavior does to you. And they have
haven't changed. What new emotion do you have up your sleeve that is going to make them change
this time? Narcissist or not, with enough empirical evidence, you have to assume they will not change.
Number two, in a romantic relationship, empathy can become extraordinarily dangerous and it can
be weaponized against you. Dr. Romney told me personally, she said, Matthew, you know, people who
are narcissists are attracted to people with extraordinary empathy. And I know that in my own life,
empathy has been something that if I'm not careful means that in a relationship, there's no limit
to how far I can fall. Because if every time someone comes back to you and, you, and, you, you,
they do something wrong, you're able to process that by saying, well, yes, that was awful.
But I understand why they did that. I understand where that's coming from. I know all about their
terrible childhood and what they've been through. I know about that awful cataclysmic event in their
life that precipitated this behavior. We can do that with every possible thing a person to do that.
That's even with, even if you decide someone is a narcissist, they are absolutely a diagnosable narcissist.
Empathy doesn't stop there.
You can still look at a narcissist and go, they can't help it.
This is something that they were either born with or that they developed at an age where they were still developing.
And it's made them into this person who does these awful things, who acts so selfishly, who's always about themselves, who disregards my needs.
who cannot see me and my pain, but they can't help it.
They are doing their best quite literally.
This is the best they can do.
And I still care about them and I don't want to abandon them.
So your empathy can produce that mutated kindness and that guilt with absolutely anybody
at the most extreme possible levels of bad behavior.
And by the way, people with the most insidious behavior,
know how to mobilize your empathy.
If they know this is someone who lets me get away with murder,
so they know that you're going to congratulate yourself
on the fact that I know him or her better than anybody else.
I know why they are this way.
I know why they're doing this.
I know it sounds terrible to all of you out there
judging my relationship and judging me for staying in it,
but you don't understand.
It's more complicated than you.
than you realize. You in a sense score points by being the expert historian on this person. I
Uniquely understand them and you don't and that's why I'm enduring all of this
But that person also knows how to weaponize it in the other direction so if you all of a sudden are calling them out on their shit if you are calling them out on their bad behavior
They know how to say see I knew you wouldn't understand they know how to
weaponize it to make you guilty for not having enough empathy. At a certain point, the empathy has to hit a
flaw. That flaw isn't you becoming a less kind or less compassionate person. It's recognizing that,
oh, I can't be empathetic with you in close proximity. I'm going to have to trade my empathy for a
distant compassion. You can leave someone and say enough is enough. I can never let you into my life.
You can have a distant compassion that says, I understand this person, or even at the very least,
I can pity the fact that their brain is wired for this kind of behavior, which means that they're
always self-sabotaging for themselves, not just hurting me or somebody else, but I can't have them in my life.
That's the difference.
Having empathy for someone doesn't mean keeping them in the kind of proximity where they can do so much damage.
And it has to be said, life is complex. There are different kinds of people in our life. You might have a son or a daughter. You might have a best friend, a brother, a sister, a parent who shows these kinds of narcissistic tendencies. In those cases, it might be easier to have them at arm's length in your life where you can still have a kind of relationship with them, but not one that relies on them for anything meaningful.
not one that lets them close enough that they can do all of that damage.
Romantic relationships are much more binary.
You can't have an arm's length romantic relationship,
not a truly happy and connected one.
When it comes to a romantic partner, you're in or you're out.
And if you can't trust that person with your time, your energy, your future, your heart,
then it has to be out.
Regardless of your level of empathy.
Trade your empathy for a distant compassion.
Number three, and here's where it gets really interesting.
Do not allow your empathy to become the cover for your fear.
You have empathy, and that's part of the reason that you stay.
However, we also do a very subtle sleight of hand where we use our empathy, one of our best qualities, to justify our existence in the relationship, when really so much of our staying is about our own fears.
I'm terrified of losing this person.
I'm terrified of being alone.
I'm terrified I'll never have this connection again.
I'm terrified to admit that I've wasted all of these years with this person.
In a sense, our empathy becomes the righteous excuse for avoiding our fears.
It's more noble to say, I uniquely understand this person and must stay out of loyalty and care for them than it is to say.
say, I'm terrified of being on my own and that's why I'm staying. Number four, we have to be willing
to light the fuse that blows up our own life. Now, in order to do this, it requires a genuine
acceptance of where you actually are. I am alone. I am alone and I'm going to have to meet
someone again because I don't have the relationship that I've been telling myself I have for all of
these years. Even though I've been in this situation for 10 years and I've been pretending I'm in a
working marriage or I've been pretending that I'm in a functional relationship, I've been pretending
I have a future with this person. I am now accepting that I'm 50 and that I'm starting again
in this area of my life. I am accepting that I have to let go of the image that all of my friends
have of me as someone who's got it together in this area, as someone who's in a happy relationship.
I'm going to have to give that up and reset my image with the people that know me and where they
think I am in my life.
I'm going to have to accept that the years I invested in this relationship were not in service
of the relationship and it's continuing into my future.
It was in service of my own confidence of getting to a point of realization where I now understand
it was never going to work.
I was never going to be happy here.
This is acceptance.
And I believe that one of the most important gifts of acceptance is that when we accept where we really are, progress actually feels like progress.
How do I put this?
If you tell everyone that you have 100 grand in the bank, but really you have 20 grand of debt, no matter what you do right now to earn more money, you're not going to feel any progress.
Because as far as you're concerned, the image of you is that you have 100 grand in the bank.
So even if you wiped that debt out, which would be an amazing thing, you don't feel like you've made any progress compared to that image.
If you accept and own where you are, I'm 20 grand in debt, but I'm working on it.
Then if you halve that debt, you suddenly feel good. You feel excited because you're like progress.
And as Tony Robbins says, happiness comes from progress.
Right? It doesn't come from getting everything we want. It comes from feeling like we moved forward.
In order to actually feel the gift of progress, we have to start accepting where we really are
instead of pretending we're somewhere we're not. Number five, when you begin to freak out about
making this tough choice in your life, your mind will trick you into thinking the status quo isn't
so bad. You'll start thinking about everything that's coming, all of the pain that's coming,
the grieving, the sleepless nights, the dark nights of the soul, the looking for somebody else,
the disappointing dates, the feeling alone, the feeling like you've been set back in your life,
all of it will become so overwhelming and scary and dark to you that you will start to convince
yourself that where you are isn't so bad and that maybe all of this is just really dramatic.
Maybe you just need to have a conversation with the person.
Maybe you just need to reiterate your needs.
Maybe you just need to go to therapy to learn how to deal with it, how to cope with it,
because you don't need to lose this person over this.
That would be crazy.
You've spent so much of your life with them.
They're one of your closest friends, maybe your best friend, your closest companions, your confidant,
someone you've been through so much with it.
You're really going to give up all of that history, all of that life, all of that investment for the complete unknown.
And that is what returns you to the status quo.
Which brings us on to number six.
You have to connect with the idea that if you remain where you are,
you will never be happy and you will never be at peace.
I've had private clients my whole life where anytime we've reached this point in the process,
thinking about they've got to blow up their own life,
they will start coming back to me and saying,
it's just we are really great together. And I hear them start to resell themselves on the status quo to avoid
doing that thing. And then I remind them, I didn't bring this to you. You brought it to me. You didn't
come to a session with me and I started poking my nose into your relationship and telling you you were
unhappy and telling you that this is what we're going to talk about today. You brought it to me. You brought it to
fighting back the tears, fighting back the unhappiness, fighting back the disappointment, the depression,
the anxiety that you feel on a daily basis.
But no matter what you do, it is spilling out of every part of you because you just cannot contain
what this is doing to you emotionally.
Remind yourself, you will never be free, you will never be happy, you will never be at peace
so long as you stay in this situation.
Which brings us on to number seven.
that both paths will be terribly difficult,
but only one of them leaves a possibility of your future happiness.
If you stay, it's going to be incredibly difficult.
If you leave, it's going to be incredibly difficult.
But one of those two paths has guaranteed misery,
and one of them opens up a world of possibility in terms of your happiness.
Either way, it's going to be brutally difficult.
Which difficult do you want to choose?
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