Love Life with Matthew Hussey - (Matt Monday): How to Get Over the Pain of Being Ghosted
Episode Date: January 9, 2023Have you ever been a victim of the most painful kind of ghosting . . . where you’re haunted by the fact that you never got closure with someone? It’s the sort of thing that can consume your thoug...hts as you obsessively look over the final exchange you had with the person and enlist your friends to help you dissect it, hoping they can spot a clue you might have missed. The reality is that this need for clarity and closure is a bid for control in a situation where you have none. Not only that, but every time you allow your thoughts to head in that direction, it’s another scratch at a wound that wants so badly to heal. In today’s brand-new episode, I give you the tools you need to move on for good from this kind of ghosting, including a text message you can send . . . not to get closure from them but to give yourself the closure you need. ►► Unlock My Best Dating Solution for Your Current Dating Situation Take the Quiz for Free at. . . . → http://www.YourDatingSolution.com ►► FREE download: “9 Texts No Man Can Resist” → http://www.9texts.com ►► FREE download: “5 Compliments to Get Him Addicted to You” → http://www.SayThisToHim.com
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                                         Could it be this and could it be that? I just don't know. I'm so confused.
                                         
                                         Matt, it's really hard when you just don't get an explanation
                                         
                                         and when you're so confused then you can't let go.
                                         
                                         Yes, you can. Hey everybody, it's Matthew Hussey with the Love Life Podcast. So happy you're here and I think
                                         
                                         you're really going to love this episode today. Check it out and if you want to let me know what
                                         
                                         you think or how this podcast is helping you, don't forget to leave me a review on itunes under the love life podcast so we recently did an episode on the podcast episode 181 the title of which was how to deal
                                         
                                         with the pain of not getting closure and there was someone who emailed a reply to this podcast
                                         
                                         she said hi all i just wanted to say that i really did enjoy your last podcast. I adore all of you guys.
                                         
    
                                         The banter you have is awesome and I do agree with everything you said. However, I have a feeling you
                                         
                                         missed out on one reason why it is so important to get closure. I am now actually trying to deal
                                         
                                         with that pain of not getting closure. But the reason why I want to get closure, and I believe
                                         
                                         I wouldn't be alone in this, is not necessarily to get any constructive criticism that I can improve.
                                         
                                         It's neither because I can't help but scratch the wound. Why I need it is because this guy
                                         
                                         simply ghosted me out of nowhere. He reads my Facebook texts but stopped responding to them. We only
                                         
                                         met two months ago and have already been through some misunderstandings, but we didn't recently
                                         
                                         argue or anything. So now I find myself left with this uncertainty over whether it's only temporary,
                                         
    
                                         like he's just struggling and needs to think about our situationship, or we're done for good.
                                         
                                         I simply want to get out of this limbo,
                                         
                                         get this level of certainty to close that chapter
                                         
                                         and move on.
                                         
                                         Thank you and can't wait for the next episode.
                                         
                                         Well, and I'm going to call this person...
                                         
                                         Name?
                                         
                                         Debra.
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to go with Debra.
                                         
                                         It's funny because whenever I read a message like this, I read certain contradictions. On one hand, Debra. I'm gonna go with Debra. It's funny because whenever I read a message like this,
                                         
                                         I read certain contradictions.
                                         
                                         On one hand, Debra says,
                                         
                                         I'm not simply thinking about this to scratch a wound.
                                         
                                         I'm just trying to get certainty.
                                         
                                         But then when I hear this person say,
                                         
                                         I'm struggling because I have this uncertainty,
                                         
    
                                         are they just struggling with the situationship
                                         
                                         and thinking
                                         
                                         about it and they don't know what to say? Or is it actually over? That kind of rumination is a way
                                         
                                         of scratching the wound. It's a way of continuing to invest in the situation. Now, let's rewind for
                                         
                                         a moment because ghosting itself is incredibly painful.
                                         
                                         It's incredibly painful because it can make us feel worthless.
                                         
                                         It can make us feel like we're not even worthy of an explanation.
                                         
                                         We're not even worthy of someone messaging us back when we've reached out to them.
                                         
    
                                         And I think it's worth stating that there are different versions of ghosting.
                                         
                                         There's the version of ghosting where we reach out to someone we've been seeing and they don't text us back. And then because we feel like that's a massive rejection, we don't reach out to them again. Now, that's not to say that's okay, but that's a much more common version of ghosting than the version of ghosting where you reach out to someone, they don't reach back out, and then you decide to go back to them and say,
                                         
                                         hey, is everything okay?
                                         
                                         I haven't heard from you.
                                         
                                         When you reach back out with a message like that,
                                         
                                         if someone then ignores that ask for information,
                                         
                                         then that for me is a much more severe form of ghosting.
                                         
                                         Neither are great,
                                         
    
                                         but the latter requires a very conscious
                                         
                                         ignorance of someone's confusion. Now, I don't know if Deborah reached out again to get that
                                         
                                         clarity because that is one form of closure you can have. I actually think if you're right now,
                                         
                                         anyone out there is in a situation where there is someone that has ghosted you and you find yourself in the same place Deborah is where you're confused.
                                         
                                         You don't know what's going on.
                                         
                                         Are they thinking about me?
                                         
                                         Did something happen to them?
                                         
                                         Are they just done with me?
                                         
    
                                         Like, what is happening? may be to reach out to that person and to say, hey, I have been very confused by the fact
                                         
                                         that I haven't heard from you.
                                         
                                         Is everything okay?
                                         
                                         It seems strange because we were consistently communicating
                                         
                                         and dating and now I haven't heard from you at all.
                                         
                                         That to me seems to be a worthwhile message to send
                                         
                                         if for no other reason than once you've sent that,
                                         
                                         you now can rest going, well, I asked for clarity. And if they don't text you back to that,
                                         
    
                                         or if they don't come back to that at all with a phone call, then you know, oh, this is a person that is willfully dismissive of my confusion, of what can be causing me pain.
                                         
                                         And they've decided that the best course of action is literally just to ignore me.
                                         
                                         If you are able to go on Instagram and see that they're still living their life and that they're not dead,
                                         
                                         then you have your answer about this person.
                                         
                                         That should be a moment
                                         
                                         where you actually can set them aside.
                                         
                                         That should be a moment where continuing
                                         
                                         to agonize over the situation and follow the thoughts of,
                                         
    
                                         but what happened?
                                         
                                         Why did they suddenly ghost me?
                                         
                                         Why aren't they getting
                                         
                                         back to me? What could I have done so wrong? That is a form of rumination that is simply
                                         
                                         scratching the wound. Our mind can, in situations like that, look for story. You know, you see it
                                         
                                         in Deborah's message. She's looking for that story. Maybe he's thinking, you know, maybe is
                                         
                                         he struggling with our situationship?
                                         
                                         Is he thinking about it and there's something holding him back? That's attributing story to
                                         
    
                                         a situation that doesn't need to be that complicated. You know, Occam's razor, the idea
                                         
                                         that the explanation that requires the least variables is the most likely explanation. In
                                         
                                         other words, the simplest explanation is the one you should go with. In other words, the simplest explanation is the
                                         
                                         one you should go with. In this case, the simplest explanation is that this person, for whatever
                                         
                                         reason, decided that they don't want to continue or that they're not interested or that they can't
                                         
                                         give you what you want. And in that moment, instead of communicating with you about that,
                                         
                                         decided to take the easiest possible way out that had no
                                         
                                         regard for your feelings. That's the simple explanation. It doesn't need more thought
                                         
    
                                         than that. When you're going into that place of, I must be worthless because this person's just,
                                         
                                         how could someone do that to me? How could someone that I was having a great time with,
                                         
                                         or that it felt like there was some kind of important relationship building with how could someone just
                                         
                                         drop off the face of the earth as far as I'm concerned and yet they're still here living
                                         
                                         their life that unworthiness that we feel should actually start to dissolve when we realize that
                                         
                                         we're dealing with a person whose opinion should be devalued in the first place
                                         
                                         because they've just they've shown us that's how they conduct themselves that's how they treat
                                         
                                         people i would go as far as to say if this person really liked you it still wouldn't matter they'd
                                         
    
                                         still be a terrible person to be with because if the person that's capable of ghosting you like that
                                         
                                         really liked you that would still be a trait they have it would still be something that it would still be a way they react when they're not interested do you see that so even if you got
                                         
                                         your wish and this person really liked you and went after you in the way that you wanted them to, the likelihood is that
                                         
                                         would just blind you to this quality that they have when they're not interested. That would still
                                         
                                         make them a terrible person for you to be with because that person is a very dangerous person
                                         
                                         to be with. You don't get loyalty with those people. You can't build trust with those people.
                                         
                                         You don't get consistency with those people. You don't, you
                                         
                                         certainly don't get good treatment when that person sees you as so no longer valuable to them.
                                         
    
                                         What you're really seeing in that moment is what does someone do when they've decided you're no
                                         
                                         longer valuable to them or when they don't need you, or when something different comes along that arrests their attention, what happens to you?
                                         
                                         What happens to anyone?
                                         
                                         Forget you, what happens to anyone in a situation like that
                                         
                                         that's in their life?
                                         
                                         And that's really good information.
                                         
                                         That's important information to know.
                                         
                                         You almost have to remove the you from it
                                         
    
                                         because the I is the ego in it.
                                         
                                         How could they do this to me?
                                         
                                         How could we go from having the connection we had
                                         
                                         to suddenly I am not even worthy of an explanation?
                                         
                                         The me in it, the I in it, that's all the ego.
                                         
                                         But what we have to do is go,
                                         
                                         oh no, what this really is,
                                         
                                         is a representation of how this person treats people.
                                         
    
                                         And that should be an incredible turnoff. is a representation of how this person treats people.
                                         
                                         And that should be an incredible turn-off.
                                         
                                         It should be seen as a dodged bullet.
                                         
                                         It should be seen as, in itself, a form of closure.
                                         
                                         Because I would never want to be with a person who is able to do this, who's in a stage of their life where they can't see that this is really distasteful and bad behavior. And I'm going to push back here,
                                         
                                         Deborah, and you sent me a message with love. I'm going to send you a message back with love,
                                         
                                         but it's going to be a tough message. I think that your email to me was a bit of a cop out.
                                         
                                         I think it was your way of giving yourself a license to keep thinking about this person
                                         
    
                                         that doesn't deserve for you to keep thinking about them.
                                         
                                         When you start to entertain, but what, but could it be this?
                                         
                                         And could it be that?
                                         
                                         I just don't know.
                                         
                                         I'm so confused.
                                         
                                         Matt, it's really hard when you just don't get an explanation.
                                         
                                         And when you're so confused, then you can't let go.
                                         
                                         Yes, you can.
                                         
    
                                         You don't need to be coming up with all of those explanations.
                                         
                                         You know, the righteous explanation we give someone,
                                         
                                         which you alluded to in your email, the one where we say,
                                         
                                         but you know, maybe they're really confused.
                                         
                                         That's a way of packaging that person in a more positive way
                                         
                                         than the behavior they've given you suggests.
                                         
                                         And the reason your mind packages them in a more positive way than the behavior they've given you suggests.
                                         
                                         And the reason your mind packages them
                                         
    
                                         in a more positive way is because
                                         
                                         then you can hold onto them.
                                         
                                         Then you can actually keep thinking about it.
                                         
                                         You can keep ruminating.
                                         
                                         It introduces doubt, it introduces hope,
                                         
                                         it introduces uncertainty and all of the confusion
                                         
                                         that keeps you trying to work out a riddle
                                         
                                         that has already been solved.
                                         
    
                                         What is the best use of your time and your precious life? We are here for a very short
                                         
                                         period of time. And one of the decisions that we have to make during this life of ours is,
                                         
                                         who do we want to spend time with? And who do we want to give our energy to?
                                         
                                         It's absolutely one of the most important decisions we can possibly make.
                                         
                                         It might be the most important decision we can possibly make.
                                         
                                         Are we going to spend our lives around positive people or negative people?
                                         
                                         Do we want to be around people who are great teammates or people who let us down constantly?
                                         
                                         Life is full of these decisions about who to spend our time with and who to give our energy to.
                                         
    
                                         And this right here is an example of someone who I would argue is a really poor use of your life.
                                         
                                         This life, you have this bar and it's not very long, it's not very big,
                                         
                                         and every hour of it is precious. So who are you choosing to give your time to? Debra,
                                         
                                         you said you had a two-month relationship. Two months. And you said there were some
                                         
                                         misunderstandings along the way. Who knows if it was even a relationship from what you've said,
                                         
                                         but there was someone that was on your radar for two months
                                         
                                         and then they ghosted you.
                                         
                                         And now they're still on your radar in a big way,
                                         
    
                                         enough for you to email me about this person
                                         
                                         because you're in pain in the confusion of it.
                                         
                                         This to me is not someone that's worth your life,
                                         
                                         but you're making them worthy of it. And the more we go down
                                         
                                         the rabbit holes of discussing these people and having conversations about what their intentions
                                         
                                         are and what did they really mean when they ghosted us and what are they thinking right now,
                                         
                                         the more we just invest. It's a form of investment. Do you understand that? This is a form of
                                         
                                         investment in that person. When we invest and invest and invest like that,
                                         
    
                                         psychologically, we care about it more.
                                         
                                         But this is one story,
                                         
                                         and it's a story that's not even interesting.
                                         
                                         Life offers you so many different stories
                                         
                                         with so many different people.
                                         
                                         There are more stories available to you to begin
                                         
                                         in this next chapter of your life than you possibly
                                         
                                         have time for. It's one of the great tragedies of life. There are so many stories you can engage in.
                                         
    
                                         There's a story where you move to India and you live out this whole adventure doing something
                                         
                                         you've never done before there. There's a story where you begin a new business. There's a story
                                         
                                         where you go and meet the great love of your life in a different city. There's a story where you have another, an amazing friendship. There's a story
                                         
                                         where you have four more amazing relationships in your life. There are so many stories you could be
                                         
                                         living. The real tragedy is when we're continuing to play out this story that's not interesting, that has finished, by the way,
                                         
                                         there's your closure, it finished. You know, we made a video recently on the nine confusing things
                                         
                                         men say and what they really mean. Well, of all the confusing things men say, ghosting isn't one
                                         
                                         of them. Ghosting is pretty obvious, is pretty direct, is pretty clear cut. Our job is to
                                         
    
                                         give ourselves the closure so that we can go and live one of those other interesting stories. The
                                         
                                         reason I say that what you said is a cop-out is because you've made this person responsible
                                         
                                         for your ability to move on. You've given them that power. I can't move on until I get some kind of explanation
                                         
                                         and figure this out.
                                         
                                         Life isn't that simple.
                                         
                                         We don't always get the closure that we want.
                                         
                                         In fact, a lot of life doesn't give us
                                         
                                         the closure that we want.
                                         
    
                                         There are so many situations that don't have a happy ending
                                         
                                         where we don't get to have closure,
                                         
                                         not in the form that we're seeking it.
                                         
                                         The closure is the closure we give
                                         
                                         ourselves where we say ah my happiness does not reside here my closure is reinventing my happiness
                                         
                                         somewhere where it's actually possible my closure is beginning a new path and saying, oh, the way that parent treated me
                                         
                                         or the way that person was in my life,
                                         
                                         I never wanna be like that.
                                         
    
                                         The closure I'm gonna give myself is being better
                                         
                                         than what I see over here.
                                         
                                         The closure may be that I get to treat people better
                                         
                                         than I've been treated.
                                         
                                         One of the greatest ways to be unhappy in life,
                                         
                                         one of the easiest ways to be unhappy in life
                                         
                                         is to look for closure
                                         
                                         where closure will not be found. And you're stalling, Debra, and you're waiting for this person
                                         
    
                                         to give you closure that you're going to have to give yourself. And by the way, you're going to
                                         
                                         have to give it to yourself in many other ways in life yet. This is not the last time you're going
                                         
                                         to have to give yourself closure, but you're stalling and waiting for it is a way to be really
                                         
                                         unhappy. And it's a way to just run out the clock on your own life. And there are no prizes for that
                                         
                                         waiting. No one waits at the end of your life with a medal that says, look how long you held out waiting for closure.
                                         
                                         You get the medal for being the most resilient
                                         
                                         in day after day after day, holding out for that closure.
                                         
                                         There is no trophy for that later on.
                                         
    
                                         There's only how much you lived.
                                         
                                         Your job is now to go and live,
                                         
                                         to set whatever energy you were gonna use to put into this,
                                         
                                         use that energy to actually go out there and live.
                                         
                                         And that starts by having a different standard to the kind of person that right now you're looking for closure from.
                                         
                                         And you may say, I already do have a higher standard. I would never do that to someone. So in that sense, you do. But you also have to have a standard for whose opinions you're looking
                                         
                                         for in life. You have to have a standard for who you listen to, a standard for who you give time to.
                                         
                                         And right now, you're not having a standard for that. You're choosing to give time to someone
                                         
    
                                         who's giving no time to you, give energy to someone who's giving no energy to you, and try to figure out what the opinions are and what the story is of someone
                                         
                                         whose opinion shouldn't be valued that highly in the first place based on their actions,
                                         
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