Love Life with Matthew Hussey - (Matt Monday): The Brutal TRUTH About Relationships You Need to Hear
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I've come to really believe in life that if you find a connection that has all the right raw materials
and you both have the same level of commitment, then you can build something extraordinary. The thing I hear the most and I asked my audience and my team a lot of questions before this
interview because I know a lot of my audience is dating, trying to figure it out and one
of the biggest things which we touched on here but I want to ask you about is that people
find it overwhelming
with the number of options they have today.
And I've spoken to friends who are like,
well, this guy's great, but maybe there's someone greater,
right? And we're constantly living in this.
They're good, but maybe they're 50%.
And maybe there's a 51.
And then maybe there's a 79.
And maybe there's a 99, because I can see someone else
over there has a 79 and maybe there's a 99 because I can see someone else over there has a 99 and so we keep
Second guessing even the person in front of us, even if they are fulfilling our needs because of the overwhelming
Number of options so how when you said you felt at home and you know I think that's what people want to feel they want to feel at home. They want to feel more than safe
I think that's what people want to feel. They want to feel at home.
They want to feel more than safe.
But how do we know or what have been the best signs and indicators
that people can look out for that they're actually making things harder
for themselves by wishing, hoping, wanting someone else?
Or is that a sign that you're not with the right person,
that you feel that there is someone who has more?
It's such a tough question, because I think it's...
Sometimes we're wanting something else because there's...
You know, the person that's in front of us isn't compelling enough.
There really is something lacking in that relationship.
But I do think we have to ask ourselves what...
What are the things I really must have for an amazing relationship?
Like for me, when I was gonna ask Gordry to marry me,
I literally called up a friend and told him,
and he was like, you know, why are you doing that?
I'm just curious.
Like, it was almost like his way of testing
whether I was ready or not, you know?
Whether I was just in some crazy like infatuation or, and I said, you know, whether I was just in some crazy, like, infatuation or...
And I said, you know, I'm ready to build something in my life.
I feel like...
For me, my dating life was just like hitting reset all the time.
And it was honestly at a certain point making me anxious.
Like, dating and being with different people and it just didn't, you know, there was a time in my life
where that was really exciting
and then it started to just go the other way.
And I had to listen to that and go,
this isn't gonna work, like this isn't where it's at,
this isn't making me happy, this isn't bringing me peace.
The way that I was dating was,
it had almost like an addictive quality to it
that was really unhealthy.
And I thought, this isn't gonna be a good look
ten years from now. It's not gonna make me feel good.
It's not gonna bring me more peace.
Which is a different... By the way, that doesn't mean
that you know how to give something up.
When you have those realizations,
you might realize eating healthier would be better for you. But it doesn't mean that you know how to give something up. When you have those realizations, you might realize eating healthier would be better for you,
but it doesn't mean that you've trained yourself to be able to do that.
But I got to a point where I said, I want to build something now. And in with Audrey, I thought I,
in my head, I was like, I'll never find a better builder.
And I said that to him, like, I'll never find a better builder.
This is... This is the builder for me.
Like, we're gonna be able to do such amazing things together,
and the life we'll have, and the, you know,
her level of empathy and compassion,
and, you know, the person that I am with this person,
it, you know, the way she makes me feel like that's truly special.
And I'm not a, you know,
there's the one out there kind of a person.
I've never been that way. If you look,
anyone looks back through my videos,
and you know this because we've spoken about it,
back when I was single, you know,
I've never been a person who believes in the idea of the one.
So I think that it's finding someone that we've, you know,
we look at what's really important to us,
not what's important on an egoic level.
Because I think a lot of the things that make us question
whether this person is right for us are ego-based. I don't think they're based on how we feel around this person.
We worry, is this the kind of person my friends think that I should be with? Do they look
the part? Are they my normal type?
Do they make the right amount of money?
Yeah. Like, is this, has this person come in the package that I had always told myself
they would come in?
And those things can be really, really limiting.
And they can have us like constantly trying to optimize for some version of something
that we think we're supposed to be with, which is a very dangerous way to go about finding
love.
You can't optimize for human beings.
You can optimize for a lot in life,
but you're dealing with people.
By the way, even if you let go of this person,
you're gonna find someone else who's also imperfect,
and they might, okay, this person scores a seven
in this area, and they score a nine, but guess what?
They score a three in this area, and they score a nine, but guess what? They score a three in this other area
that you didn't even know was great in this relationship
because you took for granted how amazing
that person was in that way.
Like, it's very dangerous to optimize in that way
in our love life, and I've come to really believe in life
that if you find a connection that has all the right raw materials,
and you both have the same level of commitment,
then you can build something extraordinary together.
And actually, the extraordinary is the thing you sculpt together.
It's no different from a career.
You know, neither you nor I started
by doing our dream version of this.
It's evolved and evolved and evolved and evolved,
and every year you sculpt it a little closer
to your ideal way of doing it all.
And along the way, you do a lot of things
that you don't necessarily, you're like,
oh my God, I couldn't do this for a lifetime,
and this part I thought I would enjoy,
and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I thought I would.
I'm gonna stop doing that.
And you, you know, you sculpt it.
Like, dream careers are sculpted.
They're not found.
And I think that that's true of relationships as well.
Like, I'm more grateful for my relationship with Audrey
than more time goes on.
Because we keep sculpting it into something
that's better and better.
What that requires, which is really hard for a lot of us,
myself included for many years,
and this was one of the things that I think really hurt me,
was I got myself into an incredibly indecisive state,
where I was constantly second-guessing myself.
And I... You know, when we talk,
when we think of what's our like,
what are we worried about in our love life,
for so many of us, it's that we're gonna settle.
Yes.
I'm gonna settle for the wrong person.
Well, I think we can actually start to
reclaim the language of settling
and make it into a very positive thing.
That what if it wasn't settling for,
what if you decided to settle on?
Because when you settle on someone,
there's a power to that.
It's like you resolve to say,
I'm gonna settle on this.
It's like people crossing a country,
when a country is, you know,
it's like people crossing America country when a country is, you know, it's like people crossing America
and deciding when to stop.
At what point did the early settlers say,
this is good enough, I don't need to keep going.
Like, I've found an amazing place.
And when you find that place, you go, I could live here.
Then you settle on it.
And it's only by settling on it that you can make it great.
It's only by putting your attention on it, like a laser, that you can see what it becomes.
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I don't think that I ever really settled on anything in my love life
in a way that gave it a chance to see what it could really become.
And in this situation, I really gave myself that chance by saying,
I'm going to go all in on this.
But she was smart because she also saw that,
Audrey is ridiculously perceptive and in tune with people.
And she saw in me early on like,
oh, this is a pattern for him.
And that doubt and that, what do I want?
You know, is this right?
And she saw that early on.
And one of the things that she did was she,
she called me out firstly and she was like, look, if,
if you're, I'm willing to like really see what this could be.
And you don't seem to be in that place where you're like actually
going all in and seeing what it could be.
She said, so I don't want to continue if you're not going all in
because I'm not like, I'm not here for some half of someone's energy.
And she, and the way she phrased it was amazing because she said to me, look, that doesn't
mean like six months from now we could break up.
Yeah.
You might decide this is wrong for you.
I might decide it's wrong for me.
And no one's the villain if that happens.
But if you're not willing to go all in right now
to at least see what it could be,
and give it your real effort,
then this has to end here for me.
And what was, for me, what was amazing about that
is that it lowered the stakes for me.
Especially when she said, because I felt like,
you know, in the past I had hurt,
well, I didn't feel like I had hurt people.
And I had been the villain.
And I was like, I can't do this anymore.
Because I also suffer from ridiculous guilt.
So I was like, I can't do this again.
I can't, I was like avoidant because I was like,
I don't want to get close enough to anyone to hurt someone.
If I hurt someone, I'm going to feel sick,
and that's going to haunt me. And then, hurt someone, I'm gonna feel sick, and that's gonna haunt me.
And then, you know, I'm just making myself miserable and them.
And so I had all this, like, stuff.
And when she was like,
you're not, if six months from now,
you decide this isn't for you, that's okay.
You're allowed to do that.
That lowered the stakes for me.
But by also demanding as a standard,
and that's what so much of this book is about how to raise your standards and
what that looks like in practice.
Cause I think the reason so many people never reach the point of real relationship
is because they don't have standards for what they expect and how to communicate
and know how to communicate those standards.
But because she had a standard that she lowered the stakes, but she also had a
high standard that said,
this is the price of entry for continuing.
That like allowed me to fully invest.
And when I fully invested,
that thing started to actually realize its potential.
And we got to see what it actually was
when I was showing up fully and she was showing up fully.
So I sympathize with anyone who is struggling
with those decisions in their love life.
I don't judge anyone for it
because I struggled in my love life with,
I wrote a whole chapter of the book called Never Satisfied
because I related to that idea that, you know,
you find someone who you chase, who feels exciting to you,
but they break your heart, you know, you find someone who you chase, who feels exciting to you, but they break your heart.
Or, you know, or you go for someone who feels safe,
and you're bored, you're doubting yourself,
you're doubting whether this is the right person,
and you just sort of, you know,
cycle between those two different extremes.
And it became the...
Not just a goal for me to help other people,
it became a goal for myself to go,
I need to figure out how to be happy here.
Because otherwise I'm going to constantly oscillate
between feeling suffering because I'm chasing someone
who doesn't want me, or being with someone
where I feel like I'm not fully there
and that's not fair to them and it's not fair to myself.
Like, I need to figure out a way to be happy here.
You know, you talked about standards there,
and obviously that's such a big part of what you felt with Audrey in that moment.
I think what scares us about setting standards
is that we think it's going to scare someone away.
So Audrey saying that to you requires so much self-worth
in her saying,
I may lose this guy if I say this,
but I know that's where I'm at.
You being vulnerable with that person many years ago saying,
I'm gonna open up about my life,
and them saying, that's not very attractive,
I don't find that attractive.
That was you again trying to demonstrate and them saying, that's not very attractive, I don't find that attractive. That was you again, trying to demonstrate and be vulnerable,
but because you were with someone
who wasn't emotionally compassionate enough
to receive that and because you didn't have enough self-worth,
you made it a weakness in yourself.
It sounds like when Audrey said that to you,
if you would have said, well, I'm not in,
she would have been like, okay, cool, we're not in then, it's not happening.
It doesn't sound like she would have been like,
oh my God, he doesn't like me, I'm not good enough.
Because she had a certain standard.
And that's what standards,
whereas when you were trying to be vulnerable,
it was like trying to be vulnerable,
but it wasn't a standard yet.
Well, I would say, no, it wasn't a standard.
Tactics are different from standards.
Not that when I was being vulnerable, that was a tactic, but, but,
but like we do constantly employ foe standards.
There aren't really standards. They're just a tactic. So he's like,
I'm not going to text this person back so that I generate interest.
And then if it doesn't generate interest three days later, we text them anyway.
That's because it wasn't a standard, it was a tactic.
Well, yeah.
When something, a tactic we do to try and get a result,
and if it doesn't work, we go for a different tactic.
A standard is who we are.
So well said.
And we don't change it.
Like if my standard for being open and vulnerable
was what I did in that moment with that person,
I wouldn't have stopped doing that
just because I didn't get the result that I wanted,
which was connection.
I would have said, well, this is how I wanna be.
And come to think of it,
what I would have said if I was in a better place,
one of my greatest standards is to find someone
who really accepts me.
And if this person doesn't accept me,
then my standard is gonna be that,
well, maybe this relationship isn't for me.
You know, I wanna be this vulnerable in a relationship.
I wanna be able to share from the heart
both the good and the bad,
and my flaws and my insecurities.
And if I'm not accepted, then then okay, maybe it's not right.
But instead, what I did was I went down
a very masochistic rabbit hole of going,
I'm not good enough, it's just been proven.
I'm never gonna reveal those weaknesses again.
And I stayed. Right?
So, you're right about Audrey, because I guarantee you, if I had not then said,
all right, I'm gonna show up differently,
she would have been out of there.
And the big difference is,
we have to make the goal, our happiness, not a person.
You know, we think that we're gonna be happy
by getting a person,
but you'll never be happy by getting a person that doesn't meet your needs. Doesn't matter how impressive
you think they are. It doesn't. That's the, that's the danger, right? That's the trap
people fall into. I've fallen into it. Someone's particularly exciting, impressive, charismatic,
gorgeous. There's something there's, they have all these things that you go, this makes
them a very valuable person.
And then you say, well, my needs don't really matter anymore.
The only thing that matters is I can get this person
because we think if I can get this person,
then I'll be worthy and I'll be happy
and it will all work out.
But everyone out there, you know, most people out there
have been in a relationship where they thought
it would be heaven to get someone.
And then they experienced what the relationship was actually like
when their needs weren't being met.
When they didn't feel safe. When they didn't feel acknowledged.
When they didn't receive someone's empathy.
When they felt like they couldn't really be themselves
around that person. When they felt like they were constantly
clinging onto the relationship
because they never, you know, they were in a relationship with the person,
but they never really felt like they had them.
You know, there's a special kind of hell to be in a relationship like that.
And at a certain point, we have to come to realize that this is...
This relationship, I keep telling myself,
I'm gonna die if I lose it, is worthless
if I don't get these couple of things that are missing.
Yeah.
And so for me, one of the greatest ways
to have a standard next time round is not,
there's a whole, you know,
I wrote two massive chapters
in this book on how to be confident,
but you don't even need confidence
for standards in the beginning.
You just need to know that I can never experience
that again because it's too painful.
It's like you don't need to, if I put your hand in a flame,
you don't need a standard or confidence to get out of it.
You just, you don't need self-worth
to get your hand out of the flame.
It's just too painful.
I can't do that again.
And a lot of people, especially people who leave
really abusive or difficult relationships,
a lot of them, when they have enough time away from it,
and they start to, their nervous system calms down
and they start to, their nervous system calms down and they start to experience a different reality.
Yeah.
They look back and they're like...
No matter how much I still may dream about that person
or fantasize about that person
or, you know, get sentimental about that relationship,
when they really think about what it was like to be in it
and what that person was like,
they're like, I could never go back to being
in that kind of a situation.
So the necessity is the birthplace of standards
before you ever increase your self-worth.
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