Love Life with Matthew Hussey - (Matt Monday): Your Heartbreak Will Get Better the Moment You Watch This
Episode Date: February 5, 2024Do you know why heartbreak hits us as hard as it does? In today’s episode, I found the answer in an interview with the world-leading expert on grief, David Kessler. It turns out, a lot of us are ca...rrying around “unattended grief” that affects us in ways we don’t even realize. We often don’t give ourselves the space to fully feel what we need to in order to break free. This new episode is an important one. Even I wasn’t prepared for what I’d feel during the conversation, so I hope you’ll join me and watch it (and let me know your thoughts afterward!) ►► Access My Happiness After Heartbreak Series for FREE by Pre-Ordering Your Copy of Love Life Now. . . → http://www.HeartbreakSeries.com
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It's the unwelcome arrival of a reality, a new future, that we did not plan to begin today,
and are probably not ready to start today. your heartbreak will get better the moment you hear what i am about to say yesterday i sat with
david kessler the world's foremost expert on grief to talk about the subject of heartbreak and how to find
happiness again after we have had our heart broken. One of the things that became eminently
clear, if it wasn't clear to me before, was that heartbreak and grief are like this.
People always want to know from me,
which grief is the worst?
Is it this kind of death?
Is it a divorce where they're still rejecting you
every day on this planet?
Like, what's the worst?
And I always go, yours.
Your grief is always the worst.
It's always the worst.
Forget everyone else's.
It's just you.
Grief, David said, is a change you didn't want.
And what is heartbreak but a change you didn't want? When someone leaves us, when someone betrays
us, when someone decides that they no longer want us, that is a change that we did not want. And the result we typically
call heartbreak, but that heartbreak is a kind of grief. It's a grieving over a person we have lost
that we'll likely never have back again. It's a grieving over a future that we thought we would live out but is no longer our reality. It's the unwelcome
arrival of a reality, a new future that we did not plan to begin today and are probably not ready
to start today. But the heartbreak I wanted to talk with David about was not simply the heartbreak of a romantic partner who had left us, but
heartbreak in general that can occur in all different forms in our life.
Because we can be heartbroken in love.
We can be heartbroken in life.
Heartbreak is a certainty of life and we are all going to experience it.
I was speaking to David on your behalf, but he said something at the
beginning of the conversation that quickly brought me into the frame in a way that I never expected.
David said something that the moment he said it, I felt my own emotions coming up. We go into comparisons in our own mind.
Oh, my grief, my heartbreak's not as much as theirs, or because of this time element,
all that.
And I always tell people, when you're in your comparing state, you're in your mind, and
you don't have a broken mind, you have a broken heart.
And we have to go into our heart.
And of course we do this sometimes, don't we? We may have dated someone for a month and when that
person decides they don't want us or ghosts us or it fizzles out, we may feel heartbroken but
not feel entitled to feel heartbroken in the way that someone who has been dating someone for two
years and it breaks up is
heartbroken or someone who's been in a 30-year marriage and is now going through a divorce is
heartbroken but what David said is that this is all very logical reasoning and it's not your mind
that is broken it's your heart and when David said that I thought of my own heartbreak, not a heartbreak in my romantic life, but some of the great heartbreaks of my life in general.
I felt myself starting to tear up and I actually tried to carry going because I want to have lots of questions. I want to ask David and I don't want to get
derailed. But David was happy enough to derail it for me. But I also want to say what I saw on
your face and you and I don't know each other that well yet. There was something that hid inside of you. And I can tell you, it's a little unattended grief.
And we all live with some unattended grief. I mean, right now, that sadness in your eye,
there's something there. And we all have it. And I then had to consider, while I was helping all of you, what grief I had not attended to in my own life.
And I'd love to invite you now with me to think about what grief, what disappointments in life, what heartbreak in your life have you not attended to?
And why don't we attend to these things?
You know, why is it that my instinct,
aside from being live on camera helping you guys,
why is it that my instinct was to move on from that
and not sit with it with David, but to speed right past it?
It's because that pain that's behind it is so difficult to confront.
David said to me, I am the only grief expert who has studied buffalo.
And you may think, what do buffalo have to do with grief and heartbreak? He said, well, buffalo,
when they sense a storm coming, they start heading towards the storm because they know that by heading
towards the storm, they will be in the storm for less time. The storm will be over for them faster.
But what we humans do is we constantly try to stay a few feet away from the storm.
And by doing so, we remain in this storm's orbit indefinitely.
And we have all sorts of mechanisms for keeping the storm a few feet away.
We may numb ourselves.
We may move on any time the situation gets close.
We may try and avoid any potential trigger for
our heartbreak anytime it comes up we may go to an emotion that's more comfortable for us to go to
I know that there have been certain situations in my life and I'm not speaking past tense I'm not
talking about five years ago I'm talking about right now there are certain situations in my life
that it's been easier to be angry about and one of the things that david said that floored me was that anger is a bodyguard
for pain and so i had to explore what pain is underneath that anger what pain is underneath
your anger you know maybe if you think back to a relationship that the way it ended or the betrayal
that you experienced that thing that person did to you or made you feel that anger that it brought
up for you that maybe stayed around for a long time what was underneath that anger? Because I know what was underneath my anger, what is underneath my anger is sadness. It's that grief.
And, you know, there are plenty of things in my life that I feel like there's plenty of storms I've headed right into very bravely.
And there's other storms in my life where it's felt too scary to get close to that emotion.
And as David put it, you know, we have this fear that if we start crying about something, we'll never stop.
So we avoid it altogether. But in my life and what this conversation with David proved to me was I want to go towards those storms, every single one of them that I have been avoiding.
Because I've done a lot of healing with myself in the last few years
and I've had the help of some amazing people.
But I want to go further and I want to go into those storms
that I've been ignoring or staying a few feet away from.
You may want to do the same.
Because the truth is, none of these emotions can stick
around forever if we actually head into the storm, if we act like the buffalo do, as David says.
And allowing ourselves to feel these emotions, deeply feel them, engage with them, is a form
of showing up for ourselves and tending to ourselves. If we really feel our own sadness,
the disappointment of what has happened to us in our lives, then we have an opportunity to be there
for ourselves. We have an opportunity to exercise self-compassion, but we can't exercise that
compassion for things that we're ignoring. In order to have compassion for ourselves,
we have to come to terms with the loss
that we have experienced.
And the loss might be something that came and went,
or it might be the feeling of loss
that comes with something we never had.
Really coming to terms with something that we never had
and the pain of that.
That's a form of showing up for ourselves,
that self-compassion.
We live in a
culture today that uh sort of demonizes the idea of feeling sorry for oneself especially where i'm
from in england the idea of feeling sorry for yourself is about the worst thing you can do
but what we have to do is look at feeling sorry for yourself in a different light as feeling for yourself,
for what you have been through. The only time that feeling sorry for yourself is a problem is when it
goes hand in hand with a lack of accountability and ownership. If I spend my whole life feeling
sorry for myself and I never do anything about it,
that's when we can waste our lives.
But what if feeling for yourself
was doing something about it?
What if feeling for yourself was the route
to doing something about it?
Haven't you ever had a conversation with someone
where they felt for you,
they saw you and they understood you and they showed up for you in a certain way.
And by doing that, it was healing for you. And from that place, you were more empowered. You
were able to do more because you felt seen. That was a basis, a foundation on which you could
actually start to move again. Well, what if you could do that for yourself? I know that in various parts of my life,
for a long time, I never showed up for myself in that way.
One of the things David said was he realized about himself,
no one ever abandoned me as badly as I abandoned myself.
And how do we abandon ourselves?
We abandon ourselves emotionally in all sorts of ways
by judging ourselves, shaming ourselves, constantly criticizing everything we do, telling ourselves we're bad,
telling ourselves we're unworthy, not sticking up for ourselves. And like I've been saying,
one of the ways we abandon ourselves is not recognizing our own pain, not actually sitting
with our own pain and exploring it and showing up for ourselves and exercising compassion for ourselves in that department.
One of the things that struck me
about my conversation with David
was the voice that he spoke to me in.
It was actually one of the things
that made me most emotional was just his voice
because there was such a kindness to his voice.
It was so soft and loving and compassionate.
And it was in such direct contrast to the kind of voice
that I have used with myself so much in my life.
And just having the kind of voice that I want to get better at internally,
externalized in the form of David, was it modeled how self-kindness can feel. And that is a really
beautiful thing. There's a real you in there that's so kind and loving.
But oh my gosh, that's the hardest voice to find.
But that's your voice.
And so that's the voice you got to keep turning up.
And it's scary to change.
And it's scary to grow.
But we know what staying the same feels like yeah it's it's scary
because it's a whole new way of being and you don't know how to move at the areas where you have unattended grief,
alongside being an invitation to head towards the storm,
can also be an invitation to start to adopt a different, kinder, softer voice for yourself.
I wanted to put together a kind of ultimate heartbreak expert series
where I had some of the people that I trust the most,
some of the people who are the best in the world
at what they do, who have the most experience and point them like a laser
at how to find happiness after heartbreak. And I didn't just sit with David. I sat with
my dear friend, Dr. Ramani, the world leading expert on narcissism. I sat with Dr. Nicole
Lepera. Many of you know her as the holistic psychologist. I sat with Lewis Howes. I sat with Dr. Nicole Lepera. Many of you know her as the holistic psychologist.
I sat with Lewis Howes.
I sat with Tom and Lisa Bilyeu and several more people who you will already,
many of you know and love.
I think of this as like the Avengers
of overcoming heartbreak.
And I have assembled them to help you in your heartbreak.
It's been a stunning mini journey for me
to speak to all of these people.
It has healed me in a number of ways
as I have gone through this process.
And I wanna invite you to go through this process as well.
You're probably waiting for the moment
where I tell you that this is a big expensive program.
It's not.
I wanted to do something special for everyone
who had supported me by purchasing a copy
of my new book, Love Life.
So if you have purchased a copy of the book,
you are gonna get the expert series completely free.
The whole thing.
I will be sending it to you.
You'll be getting an email shortly
with all of the information about how you can access it.
And if you haven't bought a book it's not too late you can grab a copy of the book and for the price
of a book you can have the entire expert series which of course includes all of the interviews
i've said and the one that i've just talked about with david kessler i believe this is going to be an incredibly healing experience
for so many people and i cannot wait for you to see them so head on over to heartbreak series
dot com you'll be able to pre-order a copy of the book and you'll be able to sign up to the
expert series while you're there i'll see you there head over to heartbreakseries.com now and let's do some healing
together i'll see you there