Love Life with Matthew Hussey - (Rewind): The #1 SIGN That Relationship WON'T LAST & How To End It...
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If I left the moment things were bad,
then I'm the kind of person that doesn't try to get through difficult times in a relationship.
Welcome to the Love Life podcast. It's me, Matthew Hussey.
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I was training the other day and the person I was training with said to me, you know, Matt, why is it that people tend to hold on to relationships longer than they should?
And why so often do those people when they leave a relationship
immediately jump into another one.
Like there's this uncanny ability to find someone weeks within mere weeks of
your breakup and then jump straight into another relationship.
What do you, how do you see this?
The, I think I've heard it called before a long time ago monkey branching, where you don't want to let go of, well I suppose
that's the idea of not letting go of the existing branch until you have another one lined up. So I
suppose monkey branching might be a little more referential of the idea of literally teeing someone else up before you leave.
But there's a similar concept going on there. What do you think's happening?
With the people who just jump into one relationship from another.
Let's start with why do you think someone won't let go of a relationship?
I think the won't letting go one is more common in a way because I think we, as human beings, struggle to
let go of things when we should. There's a famous psychological bias called the sunk cost fallacy or
what is it? Loss aversion effect, right? It's endowment effect, they call it, where the things
we have are hard to let go of even when they're bad for us. That could be a job you should quit.
It can be a relationship. It can be possessions. We instinctively feel the pain of the thing we
have if we lose it. Oh no, maybe that thing was essential to my survival. Maybe that was a
terrible decision and I can't get it back. And when you're in a relationship, I think a comedian made this joke once, like, no one leaves a relationship at the moment the relationship is actually
terrible, goes terrible. Everyone waits another six months at least until they finally pack
it in. And then...
Well, let's just, let's just pause on that for a moment, because I suppose the counter argument to that would be if
I left the moment things were bad then I'm the kind of person that doesn't try
to get through difficult times in a relationship you know if every if every
relationship is going to go through difficult times and I leave as soon as it's bad, then I'm
I'm a runner, I'm a quitter. So then it brings up the question, how long should it be bad for
before you leave? Well that's it right? I think it's more that people don't leave when they realize
there's no repair for this relationship. When people have even accepted or they think,
I don't think this thing is gonna change
or this has gone on too long,
we still drag it out a bit longer.
What's too long though?
Well, because we might think there's no way
to actually be happy in this relationship
or there's no way to get my needs met.
And we still kind of dither on making the painful choice.
Sometimes that's just because we know
that's gonna go horribly
as the conversation is gonna be horrible.
Sometimes it's because we secretly are just scared
that we're making a bad decision
or we're frightened of how we will now figure out our lives and identity without this
person because there's a whole rebuilding that goes on and it's like preparing for, you know,
it's like preparing for a big dive or something. You've got to like, I've got to strap my oxygen
tank on, I've got to be ready, I've got to be prepped and trained because once I go down there,
I'm not going to come back up for a while. So I've got to
be ready. Or you might be telling yourself they're going to change or the situation is going to
change. And I think a big question on a lot of people's minds is, am I being crazy for thinking
this is going to change? And at what point do I give up on the idea that this is going to change?
You know, when is the right time to decide this is gonna change? You know, when is the right time
to decide this is not gonna change?
Or when is the right time to decide to throw in the towel
on a relationship that you're trying to fix?
It's hard, it's a hard decision.
I have to say more often, I see people though,
who struggle because they can't leave
rather than people leaving too early.
More common is people staying too long than leaving too quickly.
But if you think about it, when people stay too long,
a part of that is because of the justification
they're doing in their mind, where they're saying,
they're continuing to convince themselves
that this might change.
There's a, you know, they're looking at it
as if it's still a question mark.
And I'm fascinated by that because it's,
whether it's with partners or with family members
or friends, there are always going to be things that we really don't
like or wish were different or you know that create arguments that create
friction and we have to almost start from the place of saying our relationship with a person is the relationship we have today,
not the relationship we have in the future.
And there's a series of questions we have to kind of ask ourselves, which is, is it bearable as it is today?
If the answer is no, something has to change immediately.
If it's livable and bearable, but it's not meeting my needs
in the way that I would need it to long-term,
then the question becomes, is this about to change?
Is this something that can change and is going to change any time soon?
And that's the part where most people are not honest with themselves.
Right.
I had a really interesting situation where someone said to me, they were talking about how their ex,
they felt like their ex was right for them, but they'd just broken up the week before.
And I was saying to this person, I see no reason why he's going to change.
Like what indication has he given you that he's going to change. Like what, what indication has he given you that he's
going to change? And my friend said, well, well, I just, you know, we, we
argue about this stuff. I said, but has he actually, has he actually acknowledged
these things that you have a problem with? Has he acknowledged them and showed a genuine commitment to changing them?"
And she said, well, he, no, he, but you know, like, he, he's so many of the things that I want and so
on. I said, okay, so firstly, there's no, there's not even evidence from his side that he wants to
change or is willing to or is making a plan to change is committed to
change and change is really really hard right there's that Jacob M Broad quote
consider how hard it is to change yourself and you realize how foolish it
is to think you can change other people it's hard to change ourselves so
expecting that somebody else is gonna change especially when they're not even
motivated to especially when they're not even motivated to, especially when they're not even committed to that change,
is fallacy.
And then I said, look, this person's not showing any signs
they wanna change.
And even right now, in the breakup,
he's not rushing back to you saying,
oh my God, I wanna change this, I wanna change that,
and let's try this again.
And by the way, in that case, you'd still have reason to be suspicious
because you haven't seen the change yet.
It's not proven.
This might just be a panic because he thinks he's losing you and he's now
saying all the right things to get you back.
Now you might give him another chance, but it doesn't mean that he's
actually going to change.
It just means you're giving him another chance that
you feel like, okay, there's a certain level of certainty in
his voice. There's a certain level of, of commitment in the
plan that he's given me about how he's going to change or
what, how, you know, how he's going to address these things
in the relationship. There's enough there for me to say, I'll
give this a shot.
And then I'm going to watch carefully to see if that's backed up by real action and real
change. But he's not doing that. And it was so funny because she said to me, so Matt,
like in, in situations in your past where, you know, there's someone you really wanted to be with, but you broke up.
If they came running back to you and saying, like, I really want, I really want this.
You wouldn't be back with them.
And what here's what, here's what's really telling.
I said to her, but he's not even doing that.
You're literally giving me a hypothetical right now as a way to con
yourself into going back to this person. For the hypothetical, you've
had to say this person is rushing back to you, wanting you back. He's not even
doing that and you're coming up with this hypothetical. So it's, it's indicative of how people con
themselves, how people create a reality in their mind that's not actually happening in
happening in real life as a way to justify giving someone more time and energy.
Right. Yeah. I spoke to someone recently who was doing a similar thing
and talking about a guy who clearly had no intentions
of changing at all.
And she was saying like,
well, what should I say to him then to, you know,
get us back together?
And, you know, we talked it through and it was clear like,
she was doing all the work here
and this guy had shown no intention that he even thought
these behaviors were a problem. But it was her saying, well, I said these were a problem.
So what do we do? You know, what do I do now to keep him?
I want people to consider, especially anyone who's been through therapy or intensive coaching or has been on our retreat program.
I want anyone to consider
when you've been through a process like that,
just how much it took on your part to actually change.
Even though you'd committed to a process,
even though you'd paid money down for a process,
that it was still, it required you to really show up
and give your all to that process in order for it to work.
So, then you imagine the mountain
that you have to climb for someone who you're with to not be showing that they that
they firstly they even have a deeper awareness of what's going wrong of what's bothering
you a true understanding and then not saying I'm sorry and I want to change and here's what I'm going to do to change and then following that plan.
If you're in the stage of just arguing with someone about something that's wrong
and none of those things have happened yet, all your work is ahead of you. In fact all the work
is ahead of you if someone says that they would like to change and are willing to do what it takes.
is ahead of you if someone says that they would like to change and are willing to do what it takes. Still the work is ahead of you. If someone isn't
even doing that it's science fiction the idea that they're gonna change.
That is a made-up story so that you can continue to hold on to something that is
terrifying to lose for whatever reason. Whether you're afraid of being alone,
whether you've convinced yourself you'll never find anybody else or more specifically you've
convinced yourself you'll never find anybody else with these qualities or you feel like you can't
handle the pain of losing this person. And that's one thing we do right, we think the qualities are
amazing and that's the real truth is people
think there's enough good things in this person, and then they try and sell themselves on the
toxic behavior or the behavior that they know they hate. They try and keep reselling themselves,
or maybe that's all right. Maybe I'm being too much, or maybe that's it's okay, because they think they're smart, they have this I'm
attracted to them, like they have a good relationship with
their friends. And, you know, it adds up. And it's like, Oh,
this is too painful to walk away with. Maybe I can just live
with this really bad thing that doesn't meet my needs.
bad thing that doesn't meet my needs. See, I'm, I have come to believe that we,
our emotions get very heavily involved
in the people close to us,
whether it's the person we're dating or in love with,
whether it's our siblings, our parents, our best friend, even our boss.
We and even sometimes the people we employ.
There are things that that we may deeply want to change and may even get to the point of saying,
I need to change this or I can't have a relationship with this person.
But there gets to be a point in life
where we've communicated calmly and in a neutral way
what it is we would like to change about the dynamic,
where we have given many opportunities for that change to happen and space for that change to happen
and where we have it confirmed over and over and over again that this change just appears to be
too big of a shift for this person. Either the shift never happens at all
or it's never sustainable.
It's a five minute shift.
And then they always end up snapping back
into their default position and behavior.
And when that happens,
we have hard decisions to make.
We can either say, I have to remove this person
from my life or from the level of proximity to me,
at the very least, that is making me this unhappy.
You know, maybe they can't be in my inner circle.
Maybe they can stay in my outer circle
and I can choose to have
them as someone who's in my life but who I don't rely on or who I don't have such an intimate
connection with but they can't stay where they are now. Or you can because I am continuing to complain about something
that I knew about, I have known about for quite some time and is not changing and I'm still here
the the kind of the the the point of the problem has shifted over from them to me that's always a that's the truth of any relationship there's a point at which
the source of the problem actually shop it jumps it transfers from that person to us, because that person is who they've been.
That should no longer surprise us. They are who they've been. We're now the person who's
continuing to complain about old information. And we have to then look at ourselves and say what's what's going on
with me that I either can't leave this person and can't seem to shift my or
can't stay with this person and shift my expectation of them. Cause if we stay with someone who won't change and we're unwilling to shift our
expectation, then we become the reason we're complaining, which isn't excusing
their behavior.
In fact, it's just, you know, they could be a, they could be a terrible person.
But why is it we haven't adjusted our expectation
of this person?
What's going on with us that we're unwilling
to revise our image of this person
and of this relationship that we have with them?
Why have we not lowered our expectation?
Why do we still have speculative them? Why have we not lowered our expectation? Why do we still have speculative
expectations that are entirely speculative? Because we've never had those expectations
met in the past, not sustainably. So we still speculate on the expectation of what they can be.
Yeah.
And that's when we have to look at ourselves and say,
look, I've only got three options in life.
It's either that they change to be more of what I need,
or I leave, or I stay and I revise my expectations of this relationship in this person.
People stay unhappy because they don't leave, they don't revise their
expectations and that person doesn't change. So now they find themselves lodged in a state of unhappy
paralysis. That's not designed to be a prescriptive kind of rant to anybody
but more a way to look at every all of us should be analyzing our relationships
and going,
where am I unhappy because I've expected a change and continue to expect a change
that's not forthcoming, but I'm not willing to leave or distance myself.
And I'm not willing to revise my expectations of this relationship.
That's a recipe for going mad.
Yeah.
So anyone listening right now who feels like they're going mad in a relationship,
my guess is this will provide some like,
some,
some understanding of that situation.
Thank you so much for listening everyone.
Remember you can always email me podcast at matthewhussy.com
if you want questions answered on the show or to just give us feedback on the show.
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