Love Life with Matthew Hussey - (Rewind): What Dating an Emotionally Unavailable Person Looks Like
Episode Date: January 17, 2025an you relate to this? You start dating someone who seems too good to be true. Maybe they treat you like no one ever has before, or they check all the boxes you’ve been looking for, or maybe it’s ...their success or status that makes you feel like the luckiest person just to have their attention (as in today’s example). But here’s the catch: they’re sending you mixed signals when it comes to commitment. You keep spending time together, but you’re still unsure of what they actually want. It’s a tricky situation. Even though you can sense something is off, the fear of losing them—and the uncertainty of finding someone as amazing as they seem—makes it nearly impossible to set boundaries or create distance. You’re stuck, holding onto something that might not be what you thought it was. If this sounds familiar, don’t miss today’s episode—it’s a rewind you won’t want to miss. --- ►► Ask Matthew AI Your Biggest Dating Question for Free Now at. . . → http://www.AskMH.com ►► Order My New Book, "Love Life" at → http://www.LoveLifeBook.com ►► FREE Video Training: “Dating With Results” → http://www.DatingWithResults.com
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If you're asking if I'm seeing anyone else consistently then no I'm not.
Which I don't know what that means exactly.
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So she said, hello, Matthew and the rest of Jams love the podcast.
This may be a bit unorthodox to be asking for advice since I am a prominent male
dating coach specializing in seduction and attraction.
I do want to clarify here that this is a woman who coaches men.
That's what she means by male dating coach.
She's a dating coach for men.
However, we all know that when things are too close to home, sometimes all we need
is an unbiased opinion, coach or not.
This is where you come in. You see, me and this guy have been seeing each other steadily
about once or twice a week since the beginning of May.
We're both busy, as I often give the same advice
about the importance of staying busy,
so as not to contract one-itis.
But this guy is different than your average bear. First
off he's a celebrity in his own right. In a certain sector of Hollywood, not going
into detail, but he is a big, big deal. He values talented women and drive, to which
my dating coach company has blown up in the last year and he loves to
hear all about it. Things have been going very well between us, but I could tell there's
something there. A blockade of sorts. And I was right. About a month ago, he confided
in me all of this intense trauma he went through during the pandemic and with his last relationship.
Big deal stuff. Huge. Because this guy is a big deal in his world. So his problems aren't just
your typical problems. The girlfriend he was with for years was diagnosed with borderline
and other severe mental illness that I don't want to
reveal for privacy reasons. They even created television shows together. He claims he tried
everything to keep the relationship from falling apart. But it did. A year and a half ago.
She was his first love. This matched with other work-related traumas
resulting in PTSD. Tears were shed in the conversation and all in all it was a really beautiful morning of
us being completely vulnerable with each other.
This is when I really started to fall for him.
He's in lots of therapy and discusses his feelings well, which I love.
I have secure attachment style. I know not to text him too much or too little,
but the thought of what are we kept eating me alive. Two weeks ago I asked him,
what are you looking for in dating? I clarified by saying, not that I feel any decisions need
to be made now, but I will say that I'm getting in too deep for this to be a casual fling.
And I asked him if dating could be a possibility in the future.
He said yes.
This is already a long email, so I'll try to cut this short.
We had another conversation about it last week, because in truth I wanted to know if
he was seeing other girls, since I myself ended things with
another guy and I genuinely don't feel like going on other dates."
He clarified.
If you're asking if I'm seeing anyone else consistently, then no, I'm not.
Which I don't know what that means exactly.
The conversation basically led into him revealing that he's been putting off the
what are we convo because of all of the trauma and PTSD surrounding his ex and the possibility
of being a boyfriend. He says he knows it's unfair to me because I am nothing like her
and he promised he will start bringing up dating again in therapy. I also am finding that many of our dates are during the week.
He's met my friends twice. I've yet to meet his. He isn't bringing me into his life yet.
Should I be worried or not yet? I don't want to give up on this guy. But how long do I
wait? What do I do during this limbo time? It's not like it's been months and months
and he's still not committing, but it's also feeling like this isbo time. It's not like it's been months and months and he's still not committing,
but it's also feeling like this is a barrier we either need to cross together or the place I leave
him behind. Do I create more space? What does it mean by being a challenge when you put it into
practice? Is it too soon to move forward like this? Should I just let things be? Should I continue to date others or honor this feeling of desiring only him?
From one coach to another, thank you.
There's so much there, isn't there?
I'm going to call this person Lisa so that we have something to, to a
name to actually use.
to a name to actually use. Lisa, you have to suspect yourself
any time you write something like this
or you have a conversation explaining the situation
and you begin with the premise that,
let me just caveat this by saying that they are a
celebrity and, and that, by the way, few people on this earth are dating
celebrities because there aren't that many celebrities, but we could all be in
the position of dating someone who is high status in a company, who is a
successful entrepreneur, uh, who has a lot of status in their particular field or
their world.
And if you start the conversation, which is a conversation ultimately around your
needs, not getting
met, right?
That's what this email is.
My needs aren't getting met.
I don't feel secure or safe in this thing.
I can't call it a relationship because we're not calling it a relationship
between the two of us.
I don't feel safe and secure in this.
And that's one of the needs that I have is the need for some sense of certainty that I'm actually investing in something under
the same premise that the other person is.
She doesn't feel that which is why she has sent this email.
My needs aren't being met is at the core of this email.
Now when you start an email or a conversation that ultimately is about
your needs being met, not being met, and it is prefaced by, let me just start
with, they're a big deal. They're a celebrity. They're a successful business
person. They aren't renowned in their field. They are from an important family, whatever it may be.
You are already setting up the justification for why your needs
don't matter as much in this situation.
And you're making a rod for your own back because that's exactly the logic this person may be relying on in order to get away with what they're getting away with.
And it's exactly the logic you're using as to why you're going to let this person get away with things that you wouldn't let someone get away with in a normal relationship.
Which is why you've allowed this justification of, you know, there's been a whole bunch of PTSD surrounding his ex and the things that he's been through with her and work and everything else.
And we've said this before, in any in any, in any situation where you're dating
someone and they give you a logic as to why they can't do certain things, why
they can't commit to a relationship, why they have no time, why they can't ever
meet our family, why they can't come to our side of town and we always have to
go to theirs, someone may give you a watertight logic as to why that's true.
And when they do, if you're an empathetic person, and if on top of that, you throw
in a healthy dose of, I really want them, then you will buy into that logic and
you'll even sell your friends on the logic.
You'll sell people you know on the logic.
Lisa is trying to sell friends on the logic. You'll sell people you know on the logic. Lisa is trying to sell us on the logic.
And that means you've been converted.
But the phrase that we've said in the past,
which holds true today,
this is not a piece of advice
that I have ever thought to change.
Because to me, it's just a recipe
for finding the right relationship
and avoiding unnecessary pain.
Is you have your reasons, but I have my reality.
If my reality is that what you're giving me isn't enough for me to be happy, then your
reasons as to why that is don't really matter.
In other words, I don't need to sit around and analyze whether you're in the right or
the wrong for those reasons. Whether you're being overly dramatic about this quote PTSD that you have
from this situation or whether it truly is this trauma that's going to take you
years to get over before you're ready for a relationship or whether you're just
using it as an excuse because actually you're having your fun right now with
people you're not seeing consistently enough to say that you're seeing people consistently.
It doesn't actually matter to me which of those three things are true.
All that matters is I'm somebody who this year, 2022, would like a relationship.
And you are not in a position to give me that.
It doesn't, it's not about right and wrong, good and bad.
It's about what are you actually giving me?
Those are the facts.
My reality determines how happy I am. Your reasons do not. And my reality
is that I'm actually not getting from you what I want. And that's the conversation.
If you ask how do you, you know, one of the questions Lisa asks at the end is what does
it mean by being a challenge when you put it into practice? Lisa, I'm going to be brutal
with you here.
The way you phrased it to him was,
what are you looking for in dating?
Not that I feel any decisions need to be made now,
which why did you say that?
Why did you feel the need to qualify your question with that?
And it's not that a decision needs to be made now
about marrying each other, but it's not that a decision needs to be made now about marrying each
other, but it's perfectly okay for you to say, I need to know whether you actually
are interested in seeing each other exclusively to see where this goes, or
whether you're still thinking you want to see other people. It's not unreasonable
to say that to him.
But you didn't say that.
You said, not that I feel any decisions need to be made now.
So you already gave up your power in that sentence.
Because you already told him in that moment,
I'm completely malleable.
You don't need to decide anything.
All I'm doing is hinting at a question,
but I'm too afraid to make any stakes around that.
You then say, not that I feel any decisions
need to be made now, but I will say
that I'm getting in too deep for this to be a casual fling.
And could dating be a possibility in the future?
And him saying yes to that, by the way, I mean, he's saying
he's committing to nothing.
It's signing a worthless contract.
He's committing to nothing.
It's will you maybe in the future be interested in dating me exclusively?
So I go to a market in London and going, now, if I buy everything today,
do you think that there is the possibility that at some point in the
future, you may give me a discount?
What's the, what's the barrow boy on the market going to say?
Yeah, no, of course.
Yeah, of course love. Yeah, no, course.
Yeah, course love. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I'll tell you what, buy it all today.
And at some point in the future, we'll have a chat.
I feel like we need to name this Cockney character.
We'll call him Cockney Tom,
because this is like your Tom Cruise Mission Impossible
character.
I absolutely can commit at some point in the future to having a little chat.
If by the way, Lisa, if you're listening to this and there's a part of you that's going,
I don't like, you know, this is the way you're talking about this whole thing.
I don't like it.
You're making fun of it or whatever.
Get mad at him. That what
we're saying is highlighting. I'm not minimizing your pain. I'm not minimizing the fact that
it's going to hurt you to have spent time investing in someone who you like. And it
always sucks to lose someone we like. All of that is valid and I get it and I don't want you to suffer.
But the reason I have to make fun of this is because I don't want you to suffer.
It's because I need you to actually see through this stuff.
You've been given it too much time of day.
Cause you're so close to it.
And when you're really close to someone, let me tell you, I don't blame you
because proximity is power. When you're close to someone, someone can sell us on a
logic that we start to believe because we're close to them and because we're giving them
the benefit of the doubt and because they're shedding tears and because we don't want to
be mean about it. But this person is shedding tears for himself.
Correct.
Not you.
Yeah, he didn't show any particular contrition at any point in that email.
And also, you know, he talks a lot about his PTSD with his past relationship. I actually,
I said it in either the last podcast or the one before, but we as women, I think, have to be really,
really mindful to not let men use us for the girlfriend experience, which I think is exactly
what he's doing here. He's staying up all night shedding tears over his past relationship with
you, but then saying that he can't commit to anything right now, but maybe potentially in the future, he will stop seeing other
people consistently or whatever he said.
So it's, it's also, um, after three months or so, he's kind of using your patience
and good nature because you're allowing him to do it.
And, you know, the reality is that anybody, whether they have, you know, status or
something about them that makes them valuable to the outside world, the best
way to stand out to people like that is actually to have healthy boundaries.
Because maybe he's just used to people doing whatever the hell he wants, because
ultimately that's how everybody else treats him because they're all too scared
to lose him, but you have to value how you feel about yourself and the fact that you have a,
a sort of healthy and, uh, non-anxious, non-avoidant attachment style, whatever
you call it, the normal one, you know, secure, protect that because actually
dating people like that is exactly the kind of thing that messes you up.
And I think you have to protect that and just stand out from everyone else by
saying, you know, this is what I would like and actually I'm not asking for a lot, I'm asking for
exclusivity, I'm asking for this to maybe be something where we actually look to
see where it goes because we've been dating for three and a half months.
So if you can't give me that because you're not ready because of your past
relationship, your PTSD, your whatever it is, that's absolutely fine. But
then we can't continue as we are because ultimately, as you have stated, he's not meeting your
needs. And I actually think that's a better way to stand out and to even make him want
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