Love Lives - #11 The endless allure of fairy tale romances and where millennial daters are going wrong

Episode Date: December 1, 2017

This week on Millennial Love we're joined by love and relationships coach (and all round romance guru), Ar'nie Rozah Krogh. In the light of the royal engagement announcement, we're thinking about fairy tale romance - why are we so obsessed with the idea of being swept off our feet and is it a problematic ideal to hold? Ar'nie also shares her thoughts on millennial dating, we discuss the plethora of apps that have become the norm and soak up her advice for young singletons on finding love.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/millenniallove. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hosted by me, Olivia Petter, lifestyle writer. And me, Rachel Hosey, assistant lifestyle editor. Each week we'll be discussing the core dating issues affecting millennials today. There are endless podcasts out there on love and relationships, but we felt that no one was really speaking directly to our generation, where people ghost, zombie and breadcrumb each other quicker than you can say Tinder. As two long time singletons, we're breaking down the boundaries of modern dating, one aubergine emoji at a time. Today we are delighted to welcome love and relationships coach Ernie, who as a professional therapist and married woman of 18 years, we are hoping can shed some light on the trials and tribulations of modern dating.

So hello and welcome. Hello and welcome myself. So the first topic we're going to talk about today is the big news of the week. That is the royal engagement. So if you've been living under a rock, you may not know Prince Harry is engaged to Meghan Markle, who is an American actress, most famous for playing Rachel Zane in Suits. And I think this is really interesting because so many people have been making jokes about, oh no, there goes my princess dream, you know, the final prince has been snapped up.

And why do we still care about these fairy tale ideas? I mean, I'm the same. Why do we still care about these fairy tale ideas? I mean, I'm the same. I think I can hear a lot of broken hearts out there just smattering away. You know, the thing is, especially for a lot of women, right, we grew up with our mothers, you know, especially, you know, until about maybe a couple of years ago. We read a lot of Disney stories.

You've got Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, you know, these fairy tales always talk about the princess being swept off her feet and rescued by the Prince Charming. And isn't Harry Prince Charming? I think he is quite charming. I mean, he doesn't do it for me. I gotta be honest, I think part of the fascination with Harry is that he's a prince. I think if he was just a standard bloke at the pub, I'm not sure. I mean, I totally would. Because he's a prince. I'm married and I would.

Good to know. Harry, if you're listening, which I'm sure he is, I'm sure he's an avid Millennial Love listener. I think he's probably a big fan. We can dream. Just in case he doesn't work out with Meghan, who I love, actually. I really like Meghan. I think she's probably a big fan. But, you know, just in case. We can dream. Just in case it doesn't work out with Megan, who I love, actually. I really like Megan. I think she seems fantastic. In that interview they did together, they seemed absolutely perfect for each other.

I know, but I just think the weird thing about their relationship is now it is going to just generate a flurry of fans who are just totally obsessed with their engagement, their marriage, what she wears, and everything along the process will just be so scrutinized. And it's like when William and Kate got engaged. It's just people obsess over this one relationship. There was so much memorabilia made in the first royal wedding with William and Kate. There was like mugs and tea towels.

I got a mug. Of course you got a mug. It doesn't surprise me at all. People like Rachel love this stuff. And I'm curious as to why. My teenage self is like the ultimate fangirl. I sort of made a little shrine in my bedroom to the royal wedding, the first royal wedding. Might do it again for this one.

I ripped out all the supplements from the magazines, saved all the memorabilia. We had a party with like victorious bunch cakes and little flags and bunting and scones. And it was rather divine. But yeah, that's actually not really that relevant. But what is it about it though? Do you think it's the idea of this perfect relationship? Or is it just the sort of celebrity element? It's so, I find it so beautiful.

I just think, I felt this way about Wills and Kate. And I think I'm going to get this way about Harry and Meghan as well. It is. It's how I get so swept up into rom-coms. Yes. And the idea of it being this beautiful fairy tale romance and them being royal, I don't know why it seems extra magical. You know, I come from the time of the other royal wedding.

Oh. His parents. Yeah. magical you know um i come from the time of the other royal wedding oh his parents yeah i remember as a very young girl my eyes were just googly over princess diana the late mom and um but you know what we as humans we are wired to seek love as as babies that's the first thing we always seek for besides food and water we want warmth we want comfort and and that's what a relationship is about isn't it that that comfort that being being hugged by someone and and and um being swept off our feet even for a man we want to be well we as in a man wants to be swept off their feet by a beautiful loving woman and this is what it's all about, really. What I think was really lovely is that actually on Monday,

when it was all announced, social media was just completely awash with everyone saying, you know what, this is so lovely. I'm really happy for them. People can say what they want, bad things about the monarchy, but they look really in love and this is really nice. There are a small percentage of the population who doesn't agree with us but i guess we are optimist we want good things to happen to um harry and megan we want the best for them but yeah everybody's going to give their opinion isn't it do? Do you think fairy tales and, you know, rom-coms are actually problematic

in that they'll make us think that we're just waiting for a prince to sweep us off our feet? You know, rom-coms and fairy tales, it's just a way for us humans to cope from our daily life, which is boring, well, well for some people a bit of drudgery to escape to a different world to this fantasy land where everything is perfect where there's no dirty dishes there's no smelly farts and morning breath yeah i agree with you i do think there's an element of escapism and fantasy about it but ultimately that that's what it is there is this weird fantastical element to these sort of fairy tale relationships where there's an element of escapism and fantasy about it but ultimately that that's what it is there is this weird fantastical element to these sort of fairy tale relationships where there's this idea

that there is one person out there for everyone there's a soulmate it's this sort of idealized view of love where you do believe in that i do believe in a soulmate do you i do my husband is my soulmate i've met him I've kissed many bad frogs. And he was my prince. So do you think there is one soulmate for every person? I would think there's at least one that you would meet. You always have one that got away. But I think the universe, I believe in, you know, the karma.

I believe in that, the energy flow of the world. in you know the karma i believe in that the energy flow of the world that if you have not um if you're not prepared to meet your soulmate sometimes the universe is kind enough to send you one along your way when you are ready i mean if you look at harry i feel like megan is his soulmate because he's finally ready for love because all his exes seem to be like his life lesson they were there to teach him a lesson do you know what i think is really interesting actually is that i'm fairly certain that the vast majority of prince harry's you know ex-girlfriends or the ones that were in the public eye were all that sort of like classic sloney slim tall with long blonde hair. And I think it's actually really interesting that Meghan's not. Yes.

She's the complete antithesis of his exes, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I do think the whole soulmate thing, even though I would love to believe in that sort of fantasy and escapism, I think the idea that romance comes with a sort of premium of perfection can be really damaging especially for people our age who are single because it's sort of it it can be really inhibiting in terms of not just not just like finding someone that you're willing to date

because you you've become so picky because you're looking for that perfect relationship that doesn't exist but I think it can also make it really difficult for you to sort of overcome like and move on from exes because say you know you were the one that was broken up with you can hold on to the idea that this was the only person for you and this was your soulmate and now they've gone and now you're sort of left with with nowhere to go and I think I've seen it with my friends a lot of the time it happens that they just hold on to this sort of idealized partner that it really prevents them from finding someone else and I do think that's something that comes from these rom-coms and these fairy tales and these Disney films people don't realize that actually there is no perfect person.

I believe in a perfect relationship for yourself. There is a perfect woman out there for you or for him. But there is no one perfect person. My husband is perfect for me. Not for you or for anyone else. And I'm perfect for him.

But I'm probably the worst girlfriend for another person. Yeah. So you see, it's about kind of rearranging our view of what perfection is and what a perfect relationship constitutes of, you know. Totally. Yeah, and a lot of people sometimes don't realise

that your idea of a relationship, what's perfect, is made up of your past experiences and your parents' marriage and the society you grew up in. What's also really interesting, kind of on that note, is expectations and reality and what we are shown in these fairy tale romances is in that interview that Harry and Meghan did, the interviewer asked when he knew she was the one

and he said when he first saw her, which again brings up this whole thing about love at first sight. There was actually a study recently that I wrote about this week, which said that basically love at first sight doesn't exist. I mean, the thing is, yeah, I think you have to take that with a pinch of salt because actually this was a study and it was all contrived. It wasn't real life situation. What do you think about love at first sight?

As someone who's written a book on love and interviewed lots of couples who've been married or together for 25, 35, 45 years, I have to say though that even though science says so, I would say it's extreme like at first sight. You get that chemistry.

I mean, I fell in love with my husband the first time I met him. I didn't know his phone number. We never, you know, we didn't know each other. We just met each other in a club. I love that you met in a club, by the way. In a club. If you were going to say something like really romantic, I'd be like, oh, God. No.

But we met in a club. We met in a pickup bar. Nice. Brilliant. People go there. But we met in a club. We met in a pickup bar. Nice. Brilliant. People go there. I went there literally with friends. I was out on a, just like, I need to kind of heal my broken heart from an ex. And I met him and I go, oh, my God, this guy's perfect.

But I told myself I am not going to, you know. Jump straight in. Jump straight in because this place is known for, you know, fornight stands yeah but we kept bumping into each other and after we long story short we both admitted that when the first night we met we literally just we I was getting sweaty palms and every time I bump into him mice palms got sweatier such a saying this is a podcast because Rachel's face right now is just like a little bunny rabbit but seriously I mean a lot of people who are in beautiful relationships I've spoken to that I've interviewed will all say the same thing when you meet someone that you feel

this that you feel like this could be the right person for the rest of my life, you feel that amazing chemistry and there's nothing you can do to take it away. You can tell yourself, no, this is wrong. I'm not going to feel this way about that person. But you know what? Chemistry doesn't lie. Science doesn't lie. That's the science of chemistry, of human interaction, that spiritual connection.

I think what you said about timing earlier is also really important like you said you know in Harry's previous relationships using him as an example that was prior to a time when he'd publicly spoken out about his mother like he only recently spoke about how much that impacted his mental health and I think clearly something when you're going through something like that it's not the best time to be in a relationship and I think the whole idea of soulmates while damaging it may be I do think that there is someone for you at a certain time in your life yes and I

think the success of that relationship sort of depends on whether the person you're with changes and develops as you change and develop. Oh, yeah, you've hit the nail on the head. Exactly that. Oh, thank you. It's true, it's true. A lot of people think like, oh my God, I met the perfect person. Oh, this is going to be amazing. But like you said, if you're going through, you know,

maybe you're setting up a business and, you know, things are a bit hectic and this person is perfect for you. But as you grow into this businesswoman personality let's say and then your partner doesn't grow into that keen into that I want to travel I want to you know break open the world market and everything they don't grow with you then they're no longer the perfect person for you yeah so the keys actually find of someone who wants to grow old with you like the Tom O'Dell song. Yes, that is a great song. God, if I'm this wise, why am I still single?

That's what I want to know. We need to talk about this. Do you know what? That's the funny thing, actually. My friends are always like, oh, you're always going on dates. Tell me, how are you so good at dating? And I'm like, no,

because if I was actually good at dating, I wouldn't still be dating. Anyway, so fairy tale romances, potentially not everything, but also don't hold out on love. I'm going to take away from that. I'm feeling very inspired to find my true love. I'm sure you are. You have to be love first in order to get love.

You have to be... You have to be love in order to get love. Wow. That's deep. That's so deep. This is like so much food for thought right now almost teary-eyed over there i know i'm feeling a bit like wow i think i'm having a moment um all right before i get too emotional let's move on to our dating disaster of the week thank you again for sending all your stories in

guys here is the one for this week and i'm actually going to caveat this with a little gem of info which just because in case you don't know this because not everyone did who I mentioned this to um yeah so shocking just gonna say Tony Stark is Iron Man so that's just a character thing you need to know and there's also a family of Starks on Game of Thrones so that's just some contextual knowledge for you here's the story. Hi, guys. So I met a guy on Tinder.

He had pictures with elephants, was an engineer, quite cute. Plus he was called Tony Stark. So come on, Iron Man and Game of Thrones. He messaged me first, brackets A+, asking if I liked coffee. Truth is, I hated it. He'd given me this whole spiel about how he'd travelled around India and found the best coffees. Want to have a cup of coffee with me? he asked. I said yes excitedly and we met up. I spotted a guy from afar, this very tall, balding guy. Quickly texting my friend while I was waiting, I mentioned someone bald was coming towards me.

It was him. All the way through our date, he kept talking about how bald he was, how he cut all of his Tinder pictures from his forehead up. He said he was waiting for the right girl. And all this time, my best mate was sending me plague of baldness texts over and over and over. And he'd never seen Iron Man or Game of Thrones. That night I messaged him saying I was busy for seven weeks.

He sent me a picture of a sad burrito and I blocked him. Call me judgmental but F that. Except I love coffee now. So cheers David. Oh my god. Do you know what kills me most about that? The sad burrito.

I feel like I want to find a picture of a sad burrito and just send it out to people. Could that be an euphemism for something else? Oh no. Oh God, yeah. I'm thinking like a millennial. Yeah, very good. Burritos are now ruined forever.

No more eggplant. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, what do you think of that? I mean, it doesn't surprise me. People lie all the time on their dating profiles. The thing is, I get that if you're bald, you might be a bit self-conscious of it but I know plenty of girls

who really fancy bald guys so don't like chop your head off in all your pictures and hide it yeah honesty so important you gotta own

what you have own it exactly own it it's like when people someone was talking to us about this the other day when people put

really old photos on their dating profiles from like two or three years ago it's just deceptive I know it's lies i guess some people don't have that many photos of themselves but you know take some take some exactly um so speaking of dating apps and issues we now want to move on to talk about the biggest problems for millennial daters and i feel like our whole generation is just struggling I think we have too many options no one will commit to anything and this isn't how it used to be did

it I have to agree someone asked me very very um it was very interesting question someone asked me would you have met your husband if you were born later and had gone through all these tinders and everything else and i said good question i'm not sure but i think i would still have met someone like him had i gone through the whole yeah tinder i mean just around the time i met my husband um we had something similar like you know like match.com right at that time it was in infancy stages and and and i remember signing up to this website where you can make friends that could lead to something else but it was based on your iq you can do all these funny tests like you do on facebook like oh what kind of dog are you what is yeah you know what's your what's your favorite color and then you get

paired up with people with the same profile as you so from there I got paired up with a lot of men but by then I was you know with my husband or my boyfriend then and I thought nah you know as cute as these guys well I'll stick to what I already have but I think today's world it's always not that that syndrome of there's something better out there there's something yeah so keep swiping keep swiping you know as doris says keep swimming just keep swimming yeah but i think that's very much the message that these dating apps perpetuate because as soon as you swipe on someone there's another one right there and there's another one and another one and

another one it's just sort of encouraging you to always look for something better and to make it seem like a game yeah well it is exactly it totally is and i think also because we've got this saturation of dating apps now and other you know there are so many other ways online that people can meet. People are less reluctant to approach people in bars or clubs. You mean more reluctant? Yes, more reluctant. Thank you for clarifying that. Yes. than they would have been because, you know, it's almost like you lose that sense of self-assurance to actually speak to someone in real life

because you're so used to crafting messages on dating apps or on Facebook message or something. Do you think dating apps are actually bad and are not helping us meet people? In some ways, I guess that's where, you know, I kind of can tell my age. I don't really like it as much because I'm still of your age. You know, face to face is still the best because that's how you can gauge someone's behavior,

their character, whether they're lying because I read body language really well. And the chemistry, when we're talking about that chemistry thing, that sweaty palm moment, you cannot do that over the screen. If I may share with you a story um i know a lady who you know divorced after 20 years of marriage so she's about me in her 40s beautiful lady looking really young for her age thought right what do i do now i mean how do i find a guy in his 40s in this time of the world i mean how do I how do I go about finding a date right she thought right I'll go on tinder and the whole you know the whole dating thing swipe left swipe right and just nothing really

came she said of course she said you know what I mean everybody was trying to you know they were thinking of me as a MILF they think oh I can conquer and all the women I mean then I said to her listen and and before she would go on any date I said to her send me all the pictures of the guys that you want to see and I'll tell you whether they're right for you just from their picture and I was spot on 100% of the time if I tell her this guy's gonna dump you he did or he's gonna ghost you he did she said how do you know it's just from the words they use it's about looking at the language in between and the photos photos, I read the pictures,

and I said to her, why don't you just start doing, what's your passion? Meet guys that way. So she started joining, you know, cooking classes and salsa classes. And she's dating a guy from her salsa class. They've got something in common now.

You have like a sixth sense for knowing which guys are going to ghost you. It's a magic power. We might have to ask you a few questions after this podcast so what do you think of this one i could save a lot of time yeah but yeah it's about meeting people in real life isn't it irl yeah i think so because so much of flirting is about eye contact i think exactly we've talked about this before we talked about flirting on a previous podcast episode. And I just think you just don't get that sort of butterfly feeling from a message.

It's harder to flirt over words because, you know, in the absence of IQs and body language and tone, how do you know that someone is being sarcastic? Yeah, exactly. Or being funny or being romantic? Yes, so true. Often I just don't quite get the jokes. Or sometimes I say something that I think is hilarious and then they don't get it.

That happens to me all the time. I say something that I think is so funny and they say something because I think I'm hilarious. Exactly. The British humour, right? The British humour is full of sarcasm and is very self-deprecating if you say the same thing

to let's say an American person who doesn't do self-deprecating jokes they're like why are you putting yourself down what is wrong with you oh my god

I'm gonna stop dating you or I'm gonna stop talking to you because you must be a nutter yeah so it's there's a lot of nuances in there that you will miss it does happen in person though

so I almost I almost don't think the issue is so much with the the messaging and it being virtual I think it's about the mindset it creates and because it's just so normal now to like date multiple people at once and like you just see someone for for weeks and weeks and weeks you don't know where you are and it's such like no one wants to have that conversation of are we official? Are we exclusive? Are we boyfriend and girlfriend? What are we?

Because people, as a general rule, don't want to commit to anything. But that kind of reflects our mindset of everything. We don't really commit to living in one place. We don't want to commit to a job. People don't want to get tied down. People don't even want to commit to a party in two weeks' time in case something better comes along. Exactly. That is the syndrome of something better. Yeah, that feeling that there's always something better out there.

Do you know what I always think is like my personal test when I'm on a date with a guy? If I find myself checking out other guys in the bar or whatever, I'm like, I'm not into this one. Oh, God, yeah. That's a big red flag, I think. Yeah, I do that a lot. Many successful dates. Maybe you've been dating all the wrong guys apparently that's another issue you need the checklist you need to create your checklist before you even say yes to do I because some people are like throw out the checklist you know you can't be so picky you know you might you

never know who you're gonna fall in love with I believe in a checklist that's how I found my husband oh I like the checklist do you think so do you think everyone has a type you know the problem is sometimes I feel like on the other hand you got someone who's overly picky but then on the other hand someone says like oh I just want someone funny and then what what do you want why do you want someone who's funny? What are you going to do with that funny? Just laugh. Exactly. But you know, there's more to that.

I believe in having a checklist because when you've got a checklist, not like a hundred point checklist, but like five major things. I wrote in my book about this. Something like intellectually, people don't think about how compatible your dating person or partner should be in your

intellect level i'm not talking about oh he must have a master degree just like me but more like do you like reading what kind of books does he read and it's more a bit like what traits they have like are they ambitious as opposed to like they have sandy brown hair and they are six foot two exactly exactly these are the things that a lot of us don't really pay attention to and i think it doesn't matter if you're if you're interested in different things like particularly say you know one person likes taylor swift rachel you like taylor swift too yeah no i do i don't like her new album but that's a different story but then if someone else is more interested in like i don't know deep house music or something like that i don't think that matters i think you need to

share some core moral values you're right absolutely it's it just if you just ask the person you're going to date like do you like music yeah i love music my husband and i have absolutely you know different tastes in music but we both go to the same let's say Glastonbury festivals and we watch each other the whole day because we're going to different stages but at the end of the night we have the same shared experience we're both laughing, we're both smiling because of our shared love of music

So what's your advice to young singletons? So many, where do I begin? Impart your ways I would say make a checklist. Write down at least, like I wrote in my book, at least five checklists and five major things you need to think about. One of them, for example, is intellectual compatibility.

Do you want this person to love discussions and debates or are you not into deep discourse and you just want someone who enjoys reading you know flimsy magazines and you know easygoing books things like that another another thing is about spiritual connection right i'm not talking about religion i'm talking about for example if you love this oh my god it's so cute but it's vegan you love your burger how are you going to make it work so something like that right like is it really important to you if you if you're like

oh everything about him is perfect but he's vegan and i love my burger how are you going to make that work you need to decide is it something you can compromise on is it something he can compromise on or is it a deal breaker i guess it depends how strongly either he feels bad if he's going to be like oh it really offends me that you eat a cheeseburger or if he's going to be like that's fine have your cheeseburger i'm just going to sit here and have my veggie burger or tofu or something there you go something like that you know you need to kind of this is what i meant about having that checklist people don't think about this little things like that like you know for example like um Christmas some people think Christmas is a great time to travel to go

away to a sunny spot no and someone's like no no no no I have to go home to my mom's and dad's in the countryside have the nice roaring fire a cup of cocoa with marshmallows and have that lovely Christmas tree yeah that's literally my Christmas yeah I was like yeah yeah that is my Christmas checklist yes so there you go you might meet the most perfect guy in your books and then you realize oh my god he doesn't agree with me on Christmas and these are the things that will happen every single year and so you have to work out if those different priorities are worth compromising on exactly or will that be like a you know like a little pebble in your shoe you can ignore that

little pebble and keep walking and keep walking and after 10 miles you go you know what i can't deal with this pebble in my shoe anymore i've got to stop and throw the whole shoe away or take this pebble out and just yeah you need to such a nice analogy that love that it's a little like a little tiny little pebble you know these little differences which you think is cute in the beginning the more you walk with it the more it could rub against you and then you get a blister God knows that could get really... your tights run... blister blasters are really expensive yeah they are yeah you can't just put a plaster over that sometimes it could be a wound for life now you got to get a scar.

You might get a scar from a little blister. This just keeps on going, doesn't it? Oh, fab. We're going deep. Right, okay. That is super useful and super interesting. Sadly, we haven't got time for loads more, though. Olivia, do you want to share our Bumble bio of the week?

Yeah, this is one that I found from a gentleman am I allowed to say his name yes yes okay a gentleman called Baptiste exotic very so a cultured European gentleman of refined taste and questionable virtue an avid musician I play several instruments poorly and a smattering reasonably I'll make you a ratatouille I would walk 500 miles but still gonna set this on 15 I really like that I really like that last line yeah the last line really made me chuckle and I feel like for anyone who doesn't get this song in reference then it's not gonna mean anything to them give us a rendition um no

I mean wait till the Christmas ep and we're five Proseccos down. Yeah, so if anyone didn't quite get that, I'm going to explain because sometimes I don't always get the jokes. It means he's going to set his bumble radius to 15 miles. Yeah. So that's what's that talking about. I also think that's a perfect example of a sort of self-deprecating British humour. Yes.

I play, even though he's potentially not British. No, he sounds like he's French. He does. I play several instruments poorly and are smattering reasonably. I actually love that self-deprecatingness. I fell in love with that sentence. Yeah, isn't that lovely?

I fell in love with that sentence. Good writer. Also, I really like Ratatouille. Not just because of the film, which is adorable, but the food. Also, it's like, you know, it's a bit different.

I've never seen anyone say, I'll make you a Ratatouille. No, it's not really a common sentence. No, no. So I like that. Yeah. Baptiste, hopefully you get a match. I swiped left.

Anyway. Oh. I hope it comes up on mine. I'll swipe right. Don't give up hope yet, Baptiste. Anyway, that's it for today. Please subscribe, rate and review us on iTunes as this helps other people discover our podcast.

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