Love Lives - #15 New Year's Eve kisses and our dating resolutions for 2018

Episode Date: December 29, 2017

As another year comes to a close, it's our New Year's Eve special. We discuss kissing at midnight and look into where the tradition came from. And after a year of being ghosted, "seeing" people and ha...ving indescribable, confusing, questionable romantic liaisons, we reveal the dating resolutions we're making for 2018. Happy New Year!Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/millenniallove. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. Hello and welcome to Millennial Love, the Independent Lifestyle Desk's weekly podcast on love, dating and relationships. Host by me, Olivia Petter, lifestyle writer, and me, Rachel Hosey, assistant lifestyle editor. Each week, we're discussing the core dating issues affecting millennials today. We love podcasts, and especially ones on love and relationships, but we hadn't found any that really spoke to us and discussed the issues we were experiencing as two single ladies in their 20s. Hence, we decided to start Millennial Love. This week, we are talking all about New Year's Eve, the parties, the midnight kisses, or lack thereof. And we're going to talk about some of our dating resolutions for the new year.
Starting point is 00:01:18 But first, Mrs. Christmas herself, how was the festive season for you, dear Rachel? Oh, it was magical magical as always it mainly involved a lot of eating which is basically my favorite pastime fair amount of drinking a lot of sparkly things which together make up my main three interests in life um so it was great i had presents i saw family there were lots of parties yeah presents i don't know i feel like now i'm old the presents aren't even you know the big thing anymore are they so i just i was just more excited about all the food to be honest any any culinary highlights um well well i'm gonna give tell you some
Starting point is 00:01:59 insight insight insider i'm going to tell you some insight. I think my Christmas frowns on my brain, to be honest. I can't really form sentences anymore. So I actually have German heritage. I'd like to think you would have done. I've probably told you about five times. So one of the things my mum, my half-German mother
Starting point is 00:02:20 makes every year is this delicious thing called Pfefferkuchen, which is a German Christmas delight. It's like Lebkuchen, but a bit different. And so you say that like I should know what Lebkuchen is. I mean, you literally should. You can get them in all British supermarkets. I know I literally should, but I literally don't. So what is it? It's like, do you know what? It really actually pisses me off when people translate it as gingerbread because it's just not. It's like this lovely Christmassy spiced. Oh, is it a cake or is it a biscuit?
Starting point is 00:02:48 I feel like it's another Jaffa cake situation here, which although the name says cake and I've established as a cake, but it's debatable. However, the name in German does also mean cake. So I'm going to say small cake like things with lovely festive spices. So that was probably my culinary highlight. Did you eat anything good? I'm going to say small cake-like things with lovely festive spices. Sounds nice. So that was probably my culinary highlight. Did you eat anything good?
Starting point is 00:03:09 I think I had a mince pie or two. A mince pie or two. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Well, you know I don't really do the Christmas thing. I know. But I did have fun. I got some shower gel. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah. It's nice. Useful. Yeah. I mean, you know what? Girls got a shower yeah gotta be fresh for the boys yeah boys boys boys speaking of the boys boys boys how's your festive boys season been treating you my festive boy season um you know what i do find this time of year just you know brings out a side of me that is like yeah true love i want to find love um which you know is then obviously can be problematic come january however i will say that i have spent the christmas period reflecting about a boy's situation and I do think it is useful having like a time away from your normal life and everyone and you know if you're like me you go back to your parents and your siblings in
Starting point is 00:04:12 your house in the countryside removed from your normal life and everyone else that you see usually and I do think that if you are uh trying to work out if you like someone how you feel about them if you want to date them or say you've just started seeing someone trying to work out if you like someone how you feel about them if you want to date them or say you've just started seeing someone trying to work out how you actually feel having time away from them i think is really useful because it then makes you realize whether you actually just want to talk to them all the time and find out what they're doing and what they're eating and what presents they've got and if you think they might fit in well with your family, and if you think, oh, maybe Christmas time next year,
Starting point is 00:04:49 would I want them in my life? So that's kind of where I'm at. Reflecting. Yeah. Thank you. So in the words of Kylie Jenner, it is the year of, like, realising things, which I can't believe you hadn't seen that clip
Starting point is 00:05:04 until I showed it to you this afternoon because Rachel was briefly explaining this to me earlier and I said, so it's really like been the year of realizing things for you. And she was like, what? Is that Kylie Jenner video?
Starting point is 00:05:14 I don't know how I hadn't seen that. I don't know how you missed it either. It's amazing. I probably watch it on a monthly basis. She's so wise. I had a Christmas of realizing, I suppose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 What about you? Any mistletoe moments? Well, I went on Bumble and I started talking to this guy. I said something very generic and his reply came at like three in the morning and it was just a tongue emoji. Like not even the face with the tongue, as in literally the licking a tongue. Oh. And yeah, so that's what's out
Starting point is 00:05:47 there um but then all separately to that i've been going on some dates and i have yeah and i've realized that it can be good to break away from wait a minute let's clarify here some dates with one same person okay yeah one same person not with lots of people well you know either way is fine um and i've realized that there is more to the traditional dating format than just, like, dinner and the evening and alcohol, which sounds really stupid, but none of these dates have really been like that. Like, did you also know that during the day there is an afternoon?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Well, I mean, most people are at work. Okay, but on weekends, for example. Yeah people are at work. Okay, but on weekends. Yeah, no. Yeah, that's rogue. That's not a traditional date situation. You know, parks. Rather than
Starting point is 00:06:33 parks. In winter? Yeah. Wow. And it's also, we were talking about this a few weeks ago about sober dating.
Starting point is 00:06:40 A few of the dates have been sober. It's quite nice. Wow. Very grown up. You have much more control. You don't, you know. Ooh, control. Yeah. few of the dates have been sober it's quite nice Wow mmm very grown-up have much more control you know you know control yeah well over yourself and so are you a fan of these daytime yeah it's quite nice it's it's interesting it's different there's no like trying to impress someone by doing super
Starting point is 00:07:08 fancy obnoxious things in like pretentious restaurants or so you're just like hanging out in what like mcdonald's and stuff yeah you know i love mcdonald's i mean i'm all about that mclife i'm loving it oh very good thank you. Very good. Now I am partial to a nugget. And a sausage. Hey. Yeah, anyway, sausages, good times. Oh, I did eat some good sausages, actually, over Christmas. Not a euphemism.
Starting point is 00:07:37 What kind of sausages? No, genuinely. Chipolatas. Ah, little sausages. Yes. Okay. Your face. Like them? Yeah, they were great.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Well, anyway, it sounds like we had good Christmas. All right, let's leave the little sausage metaphor behind, shall we? All right, let's crack straight on, I think, with Bumble Bio of the Week. Yes. So this is one that I found, and I would just like to preface this with it's not one that I would say is particularly of note in the sense that guys listening, you should do this, but it's more that it just made me laugh so much.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So I'm going to read it just as it's written. And I should probably tell you that there is absolutely no punctuation in this paragraph. It's a great start. Okay, so can I say his name? Yeah, we usually say the name. His name is Kushil. Lovely. And here we go. Love going for drinks, going for a meal,
Starting point is 00:08:33 also cinema, quite night, in food, Netflix, FIFA, enjoy football support, Arsenal, come on you gunners, enjoy a good laugh and a joke, never take life too seriously, you only live once. In my spare time I smoke to chill out, if you do too, holler, it's a bonus, baby. I just love that. I don't even know what to say.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So good. Wow, it's like he was like really keen to get all his thoughts down there. He was just having a moment and he was feeling really passionate and really excited.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I felt like he was really pumped. Yeah. So maybe he had some Red Bull. Just like, yeah, I'm going to go on dates. Yeah, So maybe he had some Red Bull. Just like, yeah, I'm gonna go on dates. Yeah, dating. Woo! I got this. I like that he was like, I smoke to chill out. Holler if you do too or something, wasn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Holler if you do too. Holler. It's a bonus, baby. Ooh, it's a bonus, baby. And the first bit was grammatically incorrect. Something about drinks. Love going for drinks. For our drinks? Come on. Proof incorrect. Something about drinks. Love going for drinks. For our drinks? Come on. Proofread.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Proofread. Although I'm sensing grammar is not his top priority, so we're probably not compatible. I mean, what gave that away? But yeah, perhaps not. Well, we enjoyed that nonetheless. Did you swipe left? Yes. Alas.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Grammar is, you know, a bit of an essential for me. Some would say. Right. So today we're discussing New Year's Eve snogs. So, okay, going to put it out there, never had a New Year's Eve snog. I find that really surprising. Yeah, well, why? Because I just have already declared my love for snogs.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Well, first of all, snogs are great, we know this. But also, have you, i don't know i just thought you would have one of those people that get swept up in the magic of new year's because you get swept up in the magic of like a tuesday afternoon and would think oh i want to go and find someone to kiss it does sound like the type of thing i would do to be honest i think it just comes down to what my new year's eves have been like right um you know for a lot of the time they've just been actually quite chilled it's been dinner parties with like friends or last had a lovely time with my girlfriends in the Lake District you know we
Starting point is 00:10:39 dressed up got a bit drunk blah blah blah but there was never any like boy snoggage or girl snoggage for that matter on the cards and I just I don't think I've ever been in a situation where it's been sort of snoggerific snoggerific yeah I don't know I've never been at like a huge party or I've never been out out or anything all right so I'm usually I'm pretty my New Year's Eve's have been pretty much the opposite I'm usually either at a party or out somewhere. And I would say that last year's New Year's Eve was pretty snoggerific, but not in a romantic way. So, it's going to sound really weird,
Starting point is 00:11:14 but so my school friends and I were very, very old friends. Everyone's already like got with each other once or twice. Yeah, it's very incestuous. It's very desexualized, the whole thing. Last year, I ended up getting with like two or three of them at midnight. For sure. Everyone was just kissing everyone. incestuous yeah it's very incestuous it's very desexualized the whole thing last year i ended up getting with like two or three of them at midnight for sure everyone was just kissing everyone like it's just it's just the joy and it happened again the year before and the year before that like it just it's i've never i've never kissed someone at midnight that i've actually
Starting point is 00:11:37 been like romantically interested in and suddenly i've had this moment where it's like oh my god i must be with you now kiss me because it's midnight that's what you want isn't it it's sort of just like you know you don't really think there's anything there then like oh you snog and it's midnight and then you're suddenly like omg it's true love yeah well that's what happens in films and i was looking into where this actually this kind of i was looking into actually where this myth comes from of you know you have to kiss or where like the whole tradition well yeah where the whole tradition comes from but like you know the myth that you must kiss someone at midnight or do tell me okay so basically i mean the myth first of all is that if you don't kiss someone
Starting point is 00:12:13 at midnight there's this superstition that you will endure a year of loneliness what yeah oh well that's why i've been single forever well there you go r Rachel. Get snogging on Sunday night. Jesus, okay. I need to change my New Year's Eve plan. So apparently it's a custom that began in Europe at like this ancient festival called Saturnalia. And yeah, it's from like 8 BC or something bizarre. Long time ago. Yeah, long time ago. But anyway, apparently, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:40 it's very ambiguous as to where it came from, but that is what a lot of people seem to root it to. But I think the actual kind of fantasy about it and the romantic side of it is something that is perpetuated by popular culture. Big time. Big time. I mean, there are so many films.
Starting point is 00:12:57 When Harry Met Sally, they get together. Remind me what happens there. So they get together at this New Year's Eve party. They kiss. I don't think they actually kiss at midnight but it's New Year and the whole idea is that
Starting point is 00:13:07 yes so it's that but then my favourite one there's also one in Friends and Gossip Girl and Bridget Jones
Starting point is 00:13:14 so many classics so many classics but did you ever watch The O.C.? of course but I also don't remember what happens because I forget things
Starting point is 00:13:21 very easily okay well Rachel let me remind you to season one episode called The Countdown. Sure. See where they got that from. Basically, Marissa, remember her? I do. Yeah, Marissa. The tortured Marissa.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So she is at a New Year's Eve party with this sleazy guy called Oliver and it's coming down to midnight. Ryan, the guy that she's dating, isn't there. Anyway, there's this huge dramatic build-up where Ryan is rushing to get to this party before midnight because he thinks that Marissa is going to kiss Oliver
Starting point is 00:13:50 and it's going to be awful. So there's this hugely dramatic scene where he's running up the stairs and as soon as he walks in, it's like, five, four, three, and then she sees him and then she runs up to him and then they start kissing and confetti
Starting point is 00:14:05 starts falling from the sky and there's this amazing song playing called dice by finley quay and it's just the epitome of like teen drama love it pseudo transcendental moment that really is just gonna put kind of false hope into teen girls such as ourselves everywhere definitely this kind of stuff happens in real life when it just doesn't the thing is film and tv and everything loves a countdown i think that's the allure of the new year's evening when there's like a time limit everything's so much more exciting i think that's why like films are obsessed with people chasing people to the airport to declare their love before someone flies away. And like actually in real terms, especially if you're flying on a budget airline, you know, there'd probably be a delay.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. So you'd be like, oh, I've got five minutes to all the plane goals. And then you get them be like, ah, she got like two hours to kill. It's that idea of deadlines. You're right. It's like if I don't do it now, then I'll have a year of doomed singledom ahead or just something it's like this is the perfect opportunity i'm literally a bit freaked out by this i did not know this rule about you're gonna have a year of loneliness if you don't snog someone at midnight i mean yeah you should probably start kissing some boys are you gonna be able to kiss boys on sunday what are you doing um i'm going to a dinner party at a friend's. I know there's at least one single boy going. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Lunge. So I might have to shark him. But yeah, maybe I will make it snoggerific. Snoggerific is just such an excellent word. It just came to me. I'm really happy about that. A moment of brilliance. ACAST powers the world's best podcasts. It just came to me. I'm really happy a friend. I found my old friend, Dan Levy. You will not die hosting the Hills after show.
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Starting point is 00:16:33 Nice. What are you doing? Are you going to snog? I don't know. I'm going to a house party with a bunch of school friends and also a bunch of? I don't know. I'm going to a house party with a bunch of school friends and also a bunch of people I don't know. So snogs could happen. Options. Options, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Options, how exciting. I love strangers. Do you? Yeah, I love meeting strangers. Like at the bumble party last week. Yeah, but do you love snogging strangers? If I fancy them. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Then yeah, snogging. Yeah, I've done it. I've done that. Just not on New Year. In the past, okay, great. Then yeah, it's not perfect. Yeah, I've done it. I've done that. Just not on New Year. In the past, okay, so let's say the past five New Years,
Starting point is 00:17:12 have you snogged someone every year? I think so. Does it always have to be a snog or a kiss? No, no, sometimes a kiss. Like there was definitely
Starting point is 00:17:21 one year where I just went out with girlfriends and we all just kissed each other at midnight just as like oh my god happy new year okay yeah okay that's another option for me to all the girls going on sunday who are listening see you sunday no okay well this is though. I didn't know the history behind it. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I feel like we should have looked into where the mistletoe kissing thing came from last year. I mean, last week. Oh, yeah. I never thought about that. That passed us by. But also, I'm sorry. I feel like that's less culturally significant. Because when do you ever find yourself standing under mistletoe with someone?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Me, last Christmas. Really? Yeah. I never see. Honestly, I don't think I could tell you what mistletoe looks someone? Me, last Christmas. Really? Yeah. I never see, honestly, I don't think I could tell you what mistletoe looks like. Mate. What does it look like? It's like this green thing with little white berries on. It's like a green twig type thing.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I just never see it anywhere. What? Don't look up. Maybe I don't go to Christmassy places because I hate Christmas. You didn't come to my party did you burn was there mistletoe there of course there was
Starting point is 00:18:29 you've got to incite the drama haven't you got to stir things up anyway new year snogs we'll keep you posted guys we'll let you know next week if we have snoggerific new years right dating disaster of the week time Yeah, snogs. We'll keep you posted, guys. We'll let you know next week if we have snog-erific New Years. Right, dating disaster of the week time. Thanks so much for sending these in. We simply adore them.
Starting point is 00:18:54 All right, here's this week's. We'd been on quite a few dates, then we took a break because we began bickering. So we decided to meet up after a couple of weeks and see whether it was worth getting back together. We went to a restaurant in a complex where he worked. You know, those fancy flat blocks by the river that have a local restaurant for the whole block. So we had a bit of a bicker over dinner and I realised that clearly we weren't compatible. I was eating dessert when the guy was like, I'm just going to the bathroom. Anyway, I finished dessert and he's still not back and it's getting weird. So eventually the waiter said to me, oh, by the way, you did know he left.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I said, uh, no. He said, well, he paid, so I guess you can just leave. So I left. I called him when I got out of the restaurant and said, what the hell happened? Why did you walk out in the middle of the meal? He said, well, it was clear we didn't have anything left to say to each other, so I just left. And we never saw each other again and lived happily ever after. I mean, I mean, it's just horrendous. I would be so devastated if this happened to me. But to be completely honest,
Starting point is 00:20:03 you have to sort of appreciate the frankness and the honesty yeah but he could have just like said that afterwards he could have just been like after dinner they could just been like oh it was nice to see you again but i think we both know we're not compatible yeah bye i mean that's just leave you know what i think this guy has done it's like a classic move that one of my friends always does at a party when she can't be well she wants to leave but she doesn't want to say bye to everyone because she knows they'll be like, oh, stay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she goes, I'm just going to the loo.
Starting point is 00:20:30 She goes to the loo and doesn't return. Oh, I do that all the time. Do you actually? Yeah, well, I always leave parties early because I get bored. Unless there's a boy there. Don't leave before midnight on Sunday. No, obviously not. Obviously not.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I mean, my snug. I really feel for this girl. Yeah, I do too. I think that really sucks. But, at least he paid. At least he didn't leave her with the check. Yeah, that would have been awful, actually. And actually, I do know a friend of a friend went
Starting point is 00:20:57 on a dinner date once, and the guy was ordering all this really expensive stuff that she would never have ordered. And so she presumed he was going to, you know, at least offer to pay for most of it because he'd been ordering it all. And the bill came for like £800. He'd gone to the loo just before, never came back.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I know. Oh my God. I know. Wait, sorry, £800? Yeah, I think it was like a fancy restaurant. But you know how easy it is to rack it up if you order super pricey drinks? Yeah, I suppose you can get super expensive alcohol. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, I know. That's brutal. Dine and dash. Awful move. Awful move. So mean. I don't know who these people are. How do they not have moral consciences?
Starting point is 00:21:42 I don't know. Nuts. Anywho, we could all get better at dating, which brings us on to topic two of today's podcast, our dating New Year's resolutions for 2018. Well, should I tell you my first one? Basically, I think I'm just going to start realizing things. No. I think I need to realize to start realising things. No.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I think I need to realise some more things, though, to be honest. Oh, hit me. Go on. Oh, no, just generally. Yeah. You know, I'm just really taken from what Kylie said. I've only heard it today. It's very profound, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah, I feel like... It really hits you. I don't even know fully what it means, but I think I need to do it. She's quite the philosopher. Yeah, anyway, go on. Anyway, so so i have three how many do you have um i've sort of got like one main one with a few sub points okay i'll hit you off in my first great please do yeah so i'm gonna stop overthinking things okay because i am constantly overanalyzing and second guessing with dating to the point where I don't just fantasize about things I actually like invent scenarios and characters I mean in my head that just is so far removed from reality that and it's so bad because then it becomes impossible for
Starting point is 00:23:00 anyone that I'm dating to kind of sustain my interest because they've become something so different in my head that in reality I'm like oh but wait that's not what you are anyway I blame this job first of all because of this podcast obviously and we write about this stuff all the time so obviously we have a bit of a deeper awareness for things than most people when it comes to dating and relationships but also blame my star sign because gemini's are deep thinkers aren't they also like two-faced yeah but they're also like really creative okay so i'm not a gemini but i totally relate actually i think i think i don't want to generalize i think a lot of women are guilty of overthinking yeah it is um
Starting point is 00:23:46 I mean I'm sure guys do it too but actually I know that sometimes I as well need to just chill the hell out yeah and just try and go with it weirdly though it doesn't it usually doesn't transpire in the way that I carry myself with guys. Like I don't necessarily act on certain things, but it's just in my head. It's like a scrambled omelette in there. Wow. It's just a total mess. Not a scrambled egg.
Starting point is 00:24:15 No, not even a scrambled egg. So an omelette that you then screw it up. Wow, that does not sound good. No, it's not good. It makes it very difficult. Okay, so we're going to work on that. Yeah, we're going're gonna try and work on that i also actually have a dating resolution for you oh hit me well no well you might have already said it about yourself so i'll wait till the end just remind me okay go on hit me okay so i'm just gonna sort of let this flow so i basically
Starting point is 00:24:40 think i need to be less irrational and less fickle so what I mean by this is I need to try not to freak out because I tend to do that I do this in many ways but one of the ways I do this and like one of the scenarios in which I often do it is if there's a guy in my life and it starts to get even remotely real, like feelings. He might show some feelings. Feelings. I know. And then, or it starts to get remotely real and there's some sort of connection and it looks like it could actually go somewhere. connection and it looks like it could actually go somewhere me because i make no sense whatsoever then go like run away that was very shrill i know i'm very shrill and i like push the guys away
Starting point is 00:25:34 and i ruin everything because i have such issues so i want to try not to be afraid both of receiving feelings and catching feelings but i mean i don't fully know how i'm gonna do that i think i think you can just do that but just by like what i said just not overthinking things just going with the flow i'm just not a really no i know you're not you're not a very flow person no you need like concrete plans yes we've discovered this organization things to be like written down in lists yeah um but i really want to try and just just go with it because as well i don't want to look back at my life in a few years time and be like, why did I mess it up with that guy who was really good, really nice guy, was actually
Starting point is 00:26:30 really into you and you cocked it up? Like, because that would be a bit, I'm really trying not to swear, rubbish. Yeah, it would be absolutely pants. A pile of pants. Exactly. So that's, I am getting better actually um I think you are yeah at just you know trying to remain level-headed keep calm carry on yeah just not freak out there's no need to freak out oh I know there's no need yeah I know there's fully no need I almost need to be like tricked into a relationship without my realizing what's happening yes and then i'll
Starting point is 00:27:09 be like oh i'm in a relationship yeah okay cool yeah oh that just happened without me even realizing because if i think about what's actually happening i'll freak out that's nice because then things feel more authentic anyway the thing is what's everyone's always said to me is that you know when it's the right guy it would just be easy and it will just happen and you won't freak out and maybe it will maybe it will so maybe that will happen to me this year and i won't even have to worry about this resolution and about like trying maybe it will just feel so comfortable it's easy oh anyway Aww. Anyway, what's your next one? My next one is, okay, to be a bit more bold. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, so this kind of, and this is kind of two-pronged. So the first one is be more bold in terms of, like, making the first move. Good. Because I never do that. I've only ever asked a guy out once and he said no oh because he was seeing someone which easily could have been a lie but if he actually was seeing someone that's like definitely not a rejection or anything like but still like that could be a lie yeah it does hurt yeah yeah so every time
Starting point is 00:28:20 you ask someone out and they say no it really it really knocks you. Yeah. So my fragile ego couldn't handle that. So now I just don't do it. And I'm very bad at making the first move in every sense. So I think I need to try and step up my game in that level. And then the second part to this Be Bold kind of mantra is, well, should I tell you what I've written? Yes. Channel Marion Kelly sass and apply to dating. Take no swear word. i tell you what i've written yes channel marion kelly sass and apply to dating take take no swear word not let boys coast me along at fear of seeming like some crazy swear word yes and
Starting point is 00:28:53 offending them like as in cat person that's what she does or or even like in the fear of scaring them away yeah i feel very strongly about this for you to be honest like everything you tell me about your dating life i sort of just want to like be like yes just be more in control yeah tell them when they've been shit oh damn it i was so careful i said right well i'm gonna read it in full then I don't want everyone knows what you were saying oh sorry I just get too you know het up in the moment another sweary episode another bloody e for a question no but what I mean is like, I think it's very, would be very good if you just were a bit more. I'm not saying that I'm like awesome at this, but just telling guys when actually you didn't treat me quite right then.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Or can you up your game? Can you be a bit better? Like actually that's not really on. So yeah, I'm not good at that, but I'm going to, I'm going to try and be better at that. Do. Because, you know, it's behaving in that way of being, like, afraid of, you know, saying things. They're not liking you. Yeah, and saying things that I'm actually thinking and feeling
Starting point is 00:30:11 and doing things that I would otherwise feel uncomfortable doing, but not really saying anything. Exactly. It goes against every other part of my character. Exactly. So I just, you know, need to bring that back up to the other standards that I carry myself with. It's tricky when you like someone. When you actually like someone, you don't want to bring that back up to the other standards that I carry myself it's tricky when you like someone when you actually like someone you don't want to bring something up that they're
Starting point is 00:30:28 gonna disagree with or it's gonna create you know conflict or tension but you know if there's something that's important to you and they've done something that doesn't respect that gotta call them out yeah particularly if this is someone that you actually see like some sort of future exactly there's no point in keeping those things to yourself down down the long run whatever the phrase is seem so much better at giving advice to people than to myself i feel like you that was a really good one for you thanks like well i'm really impressed you like even picked that up for yourself it's very hard to see your own issues yeah well i'm just really good at realizing things um do you have any resolutions for me by the way um i mean just i think what i would have just said what you said before don't freak yourself out don't psych yourself up and just go with the flow
Starting point is 00:31:16 and don't be afraid of to catch feels and yeah the lack of a better phrase. I think you just need to stop frantically obsessing over things. And if you like someone, just enjoy it. I know. And try and let it be easy. Because it can be easy and it should be easy. Like you said, with the right person, there's no reason that it wouldn't be difficult. My mum was always just like, you just need to learn to open your heart don't be afraid to feel vulnerable i'm like very as sweet as that is i'm cold-hearted bitch yeah no
Starting point is 00:31:53 so am i i don't think that if someone said that to me i'd be like oh god it'd make me feel like even more you know cold-hearted yeah exactly um anyway did you have another one for yourself um no that was it. Oh. It was my three. You did three? Yeah. The other third one was Marion Kelly.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah, so the third one was channel Marion Kelly sass and apply to dating. If anyone doesn't know, by the way, Marion Kelly is that little girl who was in the viral video of her dad as a professor being interviewed on the BBC about, was it North Korea? North Korea, yeah. And she just sassy walked into the room in this yellow jumper with like glasses and like a lollipop and then her little sibling comes in and the mum comes in and scrambles them out it was
Starting point is 00:32:36 brilliant the funniest thing was the mum came in and everyone thought she was the nanny yeah it was a bit um out of order yeah it was totally out of order but the video went viral and now there are so many pictures of her. They did a press conference and you can see her sitting there. They released a Christmas card. They released a Christmas card and she's doing the peace sign
Starting point is 00:32:51 and got a miserable face. How is she so sassy at such a young age? I just don't know, but I love her so much. She has a bright future ahead. Really does, yeah. Yeah, I think she's a good person too. If in doubt,
Starting point is 00:33:03 what would Marion do? Totally. Also, the name marion for a child is just excellent interesting isn't it does make you think of an old lady yeah i wouldn't be surprised if that sort of shot up the list of baby names heard it here first i know maybe i'm gonna name my child marion oh my god yes i can see it now just sorry i just got like a vision a future vision of my future this time next year millennial love end of 2018 i'll be sitting here with my baby marion with my baby my baby marion
Starting point is 00:33:32 married like what happened millennial marriage oh god next yeah millennial babies um no we are the millennial babies. We are, very much so. Anyway, it's been a good year. Yeah, I think so. I'm looking forward to the new year. Yeah, I've dated some boys. Yeah, dated some boys, dated some frogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Dated some arseholes, which I can say now because we're swearing. Haven't had really any, like, you know, anything that exciting to be like, wow, that was a really defining relationship of of 2017 no i've definitely had some moments of like oh god i shouldn't have done that or oh i should have done that or yeah actually 2017 has been quite interesting escapade wise oh yeah there have been some good tales some good times my journal has been very interesting this year. You write a journal? I sure do. Do you?
Starting point is 00:34:27 I'm basically, I mainly just talk about my romantic escapades. Every night? Not every night, when I've got stuff to say. Fine. I'm basically Bridget Jones for a modern generation. You can be Bridget Jones if I can be Carrie Bradshaw. Fine. I definitely won in that situation i prefer bridget anyway so and i think you'll find a chance up with colin first so
Starting point is 00:34:52 well also having a brief fling with hugh grant so yeah i am jealous about hugh grant yeah there you go but i got great shoes yeah well i like giant pants. And blue soup. Blue soup, oh yeah. I know. I'd like to think I have slightly more culinary prowess than Bridget, but, you know, who can say? Who really can say? If you eat your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I eat a lot of chicken nuggets, to be honest. So, yeah, really good diet from me. Right, we've been waffling. This has been great. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. It has been so fun to have you listening all year. We're super happy with everyone who's been tuning in and sending in your feedback and reviews
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