Love Lives - #15 New Year's Eve kisses and our dating resolutions for 2018
Episode Date: December 29, 2017As another year comes to a close, it's our New Year's Eve special. We discuss kissing at midnight and look into where the tradition came from. And after a year of being ghosted, "seeing" people and ha...ving indescribable, confusing, questionable romantic liaisons, we reveal the dating resolutions we're making for 2018. Happy New Year!Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/millenniallove. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to Millennial Love, the Independent Lifestyle Desk's weekly podcast on love, dating and relationships. Host by me, Olivia Petter, lifestyle writer,
and me, Rachel Hosey, assistant lifestyle editor. Each week, we're discussing the core
dating issues affecting millennials today. We love podcasts, and especially ones on love
and relationships, but we hadn't found any that really spoke to us and discussed the
issues we were experiencing as two single ladies in their 20s. Hence, we decided to start Millennial
Love. This week, we are talking all about New Year's Eve, the parties, the midnight kisses,
or lack thereof. And we're going to talk about some of our dating resolutions for the new year.
But first, Mrs. Christmas herself, how was the festive season for you, dear Rachel?
Oh, it was magical magical as always it
mainly involved a lot of eating which is basically my favorite pastime fair amount of drinking a lot
of sparkly things which together make up my main three interests in life um so it was great i had
presents i saw family there were lots of parties yeah presents i don't know i feel like now i'm old
the presents aren't
even you know the big thing anymore are they so i just i was just more excited about all the food
to be honest any any culinary highlights um well well i'm gonna give tell you some
insight insight insider i'm going to tell you some insight. I think my Christmas frowns on my brain, to be honest.
I can't really form sentences anymore.
So I actually have
German heritage.
I'd like to think you would have done.
I've probably told you about five times.
So one of the things
my mum, my half-German mother
makes every year is this delicious
thing called Pfefferkuchen,
which is a German
Christmas delight. It's like Lebkuchen, but a bit different. And so you say that like I should know
what Lebkuchen is. I mean, you literally should. You can get them in all British supermarkets. I
know I literally should, but I literally don't. So what is it? It's like, do you know what? It
really actually pisses me off when people translate it as gingerbread because it's just not. It's like this lovely Christmassy spiced.
Oh, is it a cake or is it a biscuit?
I feel like it's another Jaffa cake situation here,
which although the name says cake and I've established as a cake,
but it's debatable.
However, the name in German does also mean cake.
So I'm going to say small cake like things with lovely festive spices.
So that was probably my culinary highlight. Did you eat anything good? I'm going to say small cake-like things with lovely festive spices. Sounds nice.
So that was probably my culinary highlight.
Did you eat anything good?
I think I had a mince pie or two.
A mince pie or two.
That's the saddest thing I've ever heard.
Well, you know I don't really do the Christmas thing.
I know.
But I did have fun.
I got some shower gel.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's nice.
Useful. Yeah. I mean, you know what? Girls got a shower yeah gotta be fresh for the boys yeah boys boys boys speaking of the boys boys boys
how's your festive boys season been treating you my festive boy season um you know what i do find
this time of year just you know brings out a side of me that is like yeah true love i want to
find love um which you know is then obviously can be problematic come january however i will say
that i have spent the christmas period reflecting about a boy's situation and I do think it is useful having like a time away from your normal
life and everyone and you know if you're like me you go back to your parents and your siblings in
your house in the countryside removed from your normal life and everyone else that you see usually
and I do think that if you are uh trying to work out if you like someone how you feel about them
if you want to date them or say you've just started seeing someone trying to work out if you like someone how you feel about them if you want to date them
or say you've just started seeing someone trying to work out how you actually feel
having time away from them i think is really useful because it then makes you realize whether
you actually just want to talk to them all the time and find out what they're doing and what
they're eating and what presents they've got and if you think they might fit in well with your family,
and if you think, oh, maybe Christmas time next year,
would I want them in my life?
So that's kind of where I'm at.
Reflecting.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So in the words of Kylie Jenner,
it is the year of, like, realising things,
which I can't believe you hadn't seen that clip
until I showed it to you this afternoon
because Rachel was briefly explaining this to me earlier
and I said,
so it's really like been the year
of realizing things for you.
And she was like,
what?
Is that Kylie Jenner video?
I don't know how I hadn't seen that.
I don't know how you missed it either.
It's amazing.
I probably watch it on a monthly basis.
She's so wise.
I had a Christmas of realizing,
I suppose.
Yeah.
What about you?
Any mistletoe moments?
Well, I went on Bumble and I started talking to this guy.
I said something very generic and his reply came at like three in the morning
and it was just a tongue emoji.
Like not even the face with the tongue, as in literally the licking a tongue.
Oh.
And yeah, so that's what's out
there um but then all separately to that i've been going on some dates and i have yeah and i've
realized that it can be good to break away from wait a minute let's clarify here some dates with
one same person okay yeah one same person not with lots of people well you know either way is fine
um and i've realized that there is more to the traditional dating format
than just, like, dinner and the evening and alcohol,
which sounds really stupid,
but none of these dates have really been like that.
Like, did you also know that during the day there is an afternoon?
Well, I mean, most people are at work.
Okay, but on weekends, for example. Yeah people are at work. Okay, but on weekends.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, that's rogue.
That's not a traditional
date situation.
You know, parks.
Rather than
parks.
In winter?
Yeah.
Wow.
And it's also,
we were talking about this
a few weeks ago
about sober dating.
A few of the dates
have been sober.
It's quite nice.
Wow.
Very grown up. You have much more control. You don't, you know. Ooh, control. Yeah. few of the dates have been sober it's quite nice Wow mmm very grown-up have
much more control you know you know control yeah well over yourself and so
are you a fan of these daytime yeah it's quite nice it's it's interesting it's
different there's no like trying to impress someone by doing super
fancy obnoxious things in like pretentious restaurants or so you're just like hanging
out in what like mcdonald's and stuff yeah you know i love mcdonald's i mean i'm all about that
mclife i'm loving it oh very good thank you. Very good. Now I am partial to a nugget.
And a sausage.
Hey.
Yeah, anyway, sausages, good times.
Oh, I did eat some good sausages, actually, over Christmas.
Not a euphemism.
What kind of sausages?
No, genuinely.
Chipolatas.
Ah, little sausages.
Yes.
Okay.
Your face.
Like them? Yeah, they were great.
Well, anyway, it sounds like we had good Christmas.
All right, let's leave
the little sausage metaphor behind, shall we?
All right, let's crack
straight on, I think, with Bumble Bio of the Week.
Yes. So this is one that I
found, and I would just like
to preface this with it's not one that I would say is particularly of note in the sense that guys listening, you should do this, but it's more that it just made me laugh so much.
So I'm going to read it just as it's written. And I should probably tell you that there is absolutely no punctuation in this paragraph.
It's a great start.
Okay, so can I say his name?
Yeah, we usually say the name.
His name is Kushil.
Lovely.
And here we go.
Love going for drinks, going for a meal,
also cinema, quite night, in food, Netflix, FIFA,
enjoy football support, Arsenal, come on you gunners,
enjoy a good laugh and a joke,
never take life too seriously, you only live once.
In my spare time I smoke to chill out,
if you do too, holler, it's a bonus, baby.
I just love that.
I don't even know what to say.
So good.
Wow, it's like he was like
really keen to get
all his thoughts down there.
He was just having a moment
and he was feeling
really passionate
and really excited.
I felt like he was really pumped.
Yeah.
So maybe he had some Red Bull.
Just like, yeah,
I'm going to go on dates. Yeah, So maybe he had some Red Bull. Just like, yeah, I'm gonna go on dates.
Yeah, dating. Woo!
I got this. I like that he was like,
I smoke to chill out. Holler if you do too or something, wasn't it? Yeah.
Holler if you do too. Holler. It's a bonus,
baby. Ooh, it's a
bonus, baby. And the
first bit was grammatically incorrect. Something about
drinks. Love going for drinks.
For our drinks? Come on. Proof incorrect. Something about drinks. Love going for drinks. For our drinks?
Come on.
Proofread.
Proofread.
Although I'm sensing grammar is not his top priority, so we're probably not compatible.
I mean, what gave that away?
But yeah, perhaps not.
Well, we enjoyed that nonetheless.
Did you swipe left?
Yes.
Alas.
Grammar is, you know, a bit of an essential for me.
Some would say.
Right. So today we're discussing New Year's Eve snogs.
So, okay, going to put it out there,
never had a New Year's Eve snog.
I find that really surprising.
Yeah, well, why?
Because I just have already declared my love for snogs.
Well, first of all, snogs are great, we know this.
But also, have you, i don't know i just
thought you would have one of those people that get swept up in the magic of new year's because
you get swept up in the magic of like a tuesday afternoon and would think oh i want to go and
find someone to kiss it does sound like the type of thing i would do to be honest i think it just
comes down to what my new year's eves have been like right um you know for a lot
of the time they've just been actually quite chilled it's been dinner parties with like
friends or last had a lovely time with my girlfriends in the Lake District you know we
dressed up got a bit drunk blah blah blah but there was never any like boy snoggage or girl snoggage for that matter
on the cards and I just I don't think I've ever been in a situation where it's been sort of
snoggerific snoggerific yeah I don't know I've never been at like a huge party or I've never
been out out or anything all right so I'm usually I'm pretty my New Year's Eve's have been pretty
much the opposite I'm usually either at a party or out somewhere.
And I would say that last year's New Year's Eve was pretty snoggerific,
but not in a romantic way.
So, it's going to sound really weird,
but so my school friends and I were very, very old friends.
Everyone's already like got with each other once or twice.
Yeah, it's very incestuous.
It's very desexualized, the whole thing.
Last year, I ended up getting with like two or three of them at midnight. For sure. Everyone was just kissing everyone. incestuous yeah it's very incestuous it's very desexualized the whole thing last year i ended
up getting with like two or three of them at midnight for sure everyone was just kissing
everyone like it's just it's just the joy and it happened again the year before and the year before
that like it just it's i've never i've never kissed someone at midnight that i've actually
been like romantically interested in and suddenly i've had this moment where it's like oh my god i
must be with you now kiss me because it's midnight that's what
you want isn't it it's sort of just like you know you don't really think there's anything there then
like oh you snog and it's midnight and then you're suddenly like omg it's true love yeah well that's
what happens in films and i was looking into where this actually this kind of i was looking into
actually where this myth comes from of you know you have to kiss or where like the whole tradition
well yeah where the whole tradition comes from but like you know the myth that you must kiss someone at midnight
or do tell me okay so basically i mean the myth first of all is that if you don't kiss someone
at midnight there's this superstition that you will endure a year of loneliness what yeah oh well
that's why i've been single forever well there you go r Rachel. Get snogging on Sunday night. Jesus, okay. I need to change my New Year's Eve plan.
So apparently it's a custom that began in Europe
at like this ancient festival called Saturnalia.
And yeah, it's from like 8 BC or something bizarre.
Long time ago.
Yeah, long time ago.
But anyway, apparently, I mean,
it's very ambiguous as to where it came from,
but that is what a lot of people seem to root it to.
But I think the actual kind of fantasy about it
and the romantic side of it
is something that is perpetuated by popular culture.
Big time.
Big time.
I mean, there are so many films.
When Harry Met Sally, they get together.
Remind me what happens there.
So they get together at this New Year's Eve party.
They kiss.
I don't think they actually kiss at midnight
but it's New Year
and the whole idea
is that
yes
so it's that
but then
my favourite one
there's also one
in Friends
and Gossip Girl
and Bridget Jones
so many classics
so many classics
but did you ever
watch The O.C.?
of course
but I also don't remember
what happens
because I forget things
very easily
okay well Rachel
let me remind you
to season one episode called The
Countdown. Sure. See where they got
that from. Basically,
Marissa, remember her? I do.
Yeah, Marissa. The tortured Marissa.
So she is at a New Year's Eve party
with this sleazy guy called Oliver
and it's coming down to midnight.
Ryan, the guy that she's dating, isn't
there. Anyway, there's
this huge dramatic build-up
where Ryan is rushing to get to this party before midnight
because he thinks that Marissa is going to kiss Oliver
and it's going to be awful.
So there's this hugely dramatic scene
where he's running up the stairs
and as soon as he walks in, it's like,
five, four, three, and then she sees him
and then she runs up to him
and then they start kissing
and confetti
starts falling from the sky and there's this amazing song playing called dice by finley quay
and it's just the epitome of like teen drama love it pseudo transcendental moment that really is
just gonna put kind of false hope into teen girls such as ourselves everywhere definitely this kind of stuff
happens in real life when it just doesn't the thing is film and tv and everything loves a countdown
i think that's the allure of the new year's evening when there's like a time limit everything's so
much more exciting i think that's why like films are obsessed with people chasing people to the
airport to declare their love before someone flies away.
And like actually in real terms, especially if you're flying on a budget airline, you know, there'd probably be a delay.
Yeah. So you'd be like, oh, I've got five minutes to all the plane goals.
And then you get them be like, ah, she got like two hours to kill.
It's that idea of deadlines. You're right. It's like if I don't do it now, then I'll have a year of doomed singledom ahead or just something it's like this is the perfect opportunity i'm literally a bit freaked
out by this i did not know this rule about you're gonna have a year of loneliness if you don't snog
someone at midnight i mean yeah you should probably start kissing some boys are you gonna be able to
kiss boys on sunday what are you doing um i'm going to a dinner party at a friend's.
I know there's at least one single boy going.
Excellent.
Lunge.
So I might have to shark him.
But yeah, maybe I will make it snoggerific.
Snoggerific is just such an excellent word.
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Nice. What are you doing?
Are you going to snog?
I don't know. I'm going to a house party
with a bunch of school friends and also a bunch of? I don't know. I'm going to a house party with a bunch of school friends
and also a bunch of people I don't know.
So snogs could happen.
Options.
Options, yeah.
Options, how exciting.
I love strangers.
Do you?
Yeah, I love meeting strangers.
Like at the bumble party last week.
Yeah, but do you love snogging strangers?
If I fancy them.
Yeah, great.
Then yeah, snogging.
Yeah, I've done it. I've done that. Just not on New Year. In the past, okay, great. Then yeah, it's not perfect. Yeah, I've done it.
I've done that.
Just not on New Year.
In the past,
okay, so
let's say the past
five New Years,
have you snogged
someone every year?
I think so.
Does it always have to be
a snog or a kiss?
No, no,
sometimes a kiss.
Like there was definitely
one year where I just
went out with girlfriends
and we all just kissed
each other at midnight just as like oh my god happy new year
okay yeah okay that's another option for me
to all the girls going on sunday who are listening
see you sunday no okay well this is though. I didn't know the history behind it.
I'm curious.
I feel like we should have looked into where the mistletoe kissing thing came from last year.
I mean, last week.
Oh, yeah.
I never thought about that.
That passed us by.
But also, I'm sorry.
I feel like that's less culturally significant.
Because when do you ever find yourself standing under mistletoe with someone?
Me, last Christmas.
Really?
Yeah.
I never see. Honestly, I don't think I could tell you what mistletoe looks someone? Me, last Christmas. Really? Yeah. I never see,
honestly, I don't think I could tell you what mistletoe looks like. Mate. What does
it look like? It's like this green
thing with little white berries on.
It's like a green twig type thing.
I just never see it anywhere.
What? Don't look up.
Maybe I don't go to
Christmassy places because I hate Christmas.
You didn't come to my party did you
burn
was there mistletoe there
of course there was
you've got to incite the drama haven't you
got to stir things up
anyway
new year snogs
we'll keep you posted guys
we'll let you know next week if we have snoggerific new years
right dating disaster of the week time Yeah, snogs. We'll keep you posted, guys. We'll let you know next week if we have snog-erific New Years.
Right, dating disaster of the week time. Thanks so much for sending these in. We simply adore them.
All right, here's this week's.
We'd been on quite a few dates, then we took a break because we began bickering.
So we decided to meet up after a couple of weeks and see whether it was worth getting back together.
We went to a restaurant in a complex where he worked.
You know, those fancy flat blocks by the river that have a local restaurant for the whole block.
So we had a bit of a bicker over dinner and I realised that clearly we weren't compatible.
I was eating dessert when the guy was like, I'm just going to the bathroom.
Anyway, I finished dessert and he's still not back and it's getting weird. So eventually the waiter said to me, oh, by the way, you did know he left.
I said, uh, no. He said, well, he paid, so I guess you can just leave. So I left.
I called him when I got out of the restaurant and said, what the hell happened? Why did you walk out in the middle of the meal?
He said, well, it was clear we didn't have anything left to say to each other,
so I just left.
And we never saw each other again and lived happily ever after.
I mean, I mean, it's just horrendous.
I would be so devastated if this happened to me.
But to be completely honest,
you have to sort of appreciate the frankness and the honesty yeah but he could have just like said that afterwards he could have
just been like after dinner they could just been like oh it was nice to see you again but i think
we both know we're not compatible yeah bye i mean that's just leave you know what i think this guy
has done it's like a classic move that one of my friends always does at a party when she can't be
well she wants to leave but she doesn't want to say bye to everyone because she knows they'll
be like, oh, stay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she goes, I'm just going to the loo.
She goes to the loo and doesn't return.
Oh, I do that all the time.
Do you actually?
Yeah, well, I always leave parties early because I get bored.
Unless there's a boy there.
Don't leave before midnight on Sunday.
No, obviously not.
Obviously not.
I mean, my snug.
I really feel for this girl.
Yeah, I do too. I think that really sucks.
But, at least he paid.
At least he didn't leave her with the check.
Yeah, that would have been awful, actually.
And actually, I do know a friend
of a friend went
on a dinner date once, and the guy
was ordering all this really expensive stuff
that she would never have ordered.
And so she presumed he was going to, you know,
at least offer to pay for most of it
because he'd been ordering it all.
And the bill came for like £800.
He'd gone to the loo just before, never came back.
I know.
Oh my God.
I know.
Wait, sorry, £800?
Yeah, I think it was like a fancy restaurant.
But you know how easy it is to rack it up if you order super pricey drinks?
Yeah, I suppose you can get super expensive alcohol.
Exactly.
Yeah, I know.
That's brutal.
Dine and dash.
Awful move.
Awful move.
So mean.
I don't know who these people are.
How do they not have moral consciences?
I don't know.
Nuts.
Anywho, we could all get better at dating,
which brings us on to topic two of today's podcast,
our dating New Year's resolutions for 2018.
Well, should I tell you my first one?
Basically, I think I'm just going to start realizing things.
No. I think I need to realize to start realising things. No.
I think I need to realise some more things, though, to be honest.
Oh, hit me.
Go on.
Oh, no, just generally.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just really taken from what Kylie said.
I've only heard it today.
It's very profound, I know.
Yeah, I feel like...
It really hits you.
I don't even know fully what it means, but I think I need to do it.
She's quite the philosopher.
Yeah, anyway, go on. Anyway, so so i have three how many do you have um i've sort of got like one main one with a few sub points okay i'll hit you off in my first great please do yeah so i'm gonna
stop overthinking things okay because i am constantly overanalyzing and second guessing with dating to the point where I don't just
fantasize about things I actually like invent scenarios and characters I mean in my head that
just is so far removed from reality that and it's so bad because then it becomes impossible for
anyone that I'm dating to kind of sustain my interest because they've become
something so different in my head that in reality I'm like oh but wait that's not what you are
anyway I blame this job first of all because of this podcast obviously and we write about this
stuff all the time so obviously we have a bit of a deeper awareness for things than most people
when it comes to dating and relationships but also blame my star sign
because gemini's are deep thinkers aren't they also like two-faced yeah but they're also like
really creative okay so i'm not a gemini but i totally relate actually i think i think
i don't want to generalize i think a lot of women are guilty of overthinking yeah it is um
I mean I'm sure guys do it too but actually I know that sometimes I as well need to just
chill the hell out yeah and just try and go with it weirdly though it doesn't it usually doesn't
transpire in the way that I carry myself with guys. Like I don't necessarily act on certain things,
but it's just in my head.
It's like a scrambled omelette in there.
Wow.
It's just a total mess.
Not a scrambled egg.
No, not even a scrambled egg.
So an omelette that you then screw it up.
Wow, that does not sound good.
No, it's not good.
It makes it very difficult.
Okay, so we're going to work on that. Yeah, we're going're gonna try and work on that i also actually have a dating resolution for you
oh hit me well no well you might have already said it about yourself so i'll wait till the end
just remind me okay go on hit me okay so i'm just gonna sort of let this flow so i basically
think i need to be less irrational and less fickle so what I mean by this is
I need to try not to freak out because I tend to do that I do this in many ways but one of the ways
I do this and like one of the scenarios in which I often do it is if there's a guy in my life and it starts to get even remotely real, like feelings.
He might show some feelings.
Feelings.
I know.
And then, or it starts to get remotely real and there's some sort of connection and it looks like it could actually go somewhere.
connection and it looks like it could actually go somewhere me because i make no sense whatsoever then go like run away that was very shrill i know i'm very shrill and i like push the guys away
and i ruin everything because i have such issues so i want to try not to be afraid both of receiving feelings and catching feelings
but i mean i don't fully know how i'm gonna do that i think i think you can just do that but just
by like what i said just not overthinking things just going with the flow i'm just not a really
no i know you're not you're
not a very flow person no you need like concrete plans yes we've discovered this organization
things to be like written down in lists yeah um but i really want to try and just
just go with it because as well i don't want to look back at my life in a few years time and be like,
why did I mess it up with that guy who was really good, really nice guy, was actually
really into you and you cocked it up?
Like, because that would be a bit, I'm really trying not to swear, rubbish.
Yeah, it would be absolutely pants.
A pile of pants.
Exactly.
So that's, I am getting better actually um I think you are yeah at just you know trying to remain level-headed keep calm carry on yeah just not
freak out there's no need to freak out oh I know there's no need yeah I know there's fully no need
I almost need to be like tricked into a relationship without my realizing what's happening yes and then i'll
be like oh i'm in a relationship yeah okay cool yeah oh that just happened without me even realizing
because if i think about what's actually happening i'll freak out that's nice because then things
feel more authentic anyway the thing is what's everyone's always said to me is that you know when it's the right guy it would just be easy and it will just happen
and you won't freak out and maybe it will maybe it will so maybe that will happen to me this year
and i won't even have to worry about this resolution and about like trying maybe it
will just feel so comfortable it's easy oh anyway Aww. Anyway, what's your next one?
My next one is, okay, to be a bit more bold.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah, so this kind of, and this is kind of two-pronged.
So the first one is be more bold in terms of, like, making the first move.
Good.
Because I never do that.
I've only ever asked a guy out
once and he said no oh because he was seeing someone which easily could have been a lie
but if he actually was seeing someone that's like definitely not a rejection
or anything like but still like that could be a lie yeah it does hurt yeah yeah so every time
you ask someone out and they say no it really it really knocks you. Yeah. So my fragile ego couldn't handle that. So now I just don't do it.
And I'm very bad at making the first move in every sense.
So I think I need to try and step up my game in that level.
And then the second part to this Be Bold kind of mantra is, well, should I tell you what I've written?
Yes.
Channel Marion Kelly sass and apply to dating.
Take no swear word. i tell you what i've written yes channel marion kelly sass and apply to dating take take no
swear word not let boys coast me along at fear of seeming like some crazy swear word yes and
offending them like as in cat person that's what she does or or even like in the fear of scaring
them away yeah i feel very strongly about this for you to be honest like
everything you tell me about your dating life i sort of just want to like be like yes just
be more in control yeah tell them when they've been shit oh damn it i was so careful i said
right well i'm gonna read it in full then I don't want everyone knows what
you were saying oh sorry I just get too you know het up in the moment another sweary episode
another bloody e for a question no but what I mean is like, I think it's very, would be very good if you just were a bit more.
I'm not saying that I'm like awesome at this, but just telling guys when actually you didn't treat me quite right then.
Or can you up your game?
Can you be a bit better?
Like actually that's not really on.
So yeah, I'm not good at that, but I'm going to, I'm going to try and be better at that.
Do.
Because, you know, it's behaving in that way of being, like, afraid of, you know, saying things.
They're not liking you.
Yeah, and saying things that I'm actually thinking and feeling
and doing things that I would otherwise feel uncomfortable doing,
but not really saying anything.
Exactly.
It goes against every other part of my character.
Exactly.
So I just, you know, need to bring that back up to the other standards that I carry myself with.
It's tricky when you like someone.
When you actually like someone, you don't want to bring that back up to the other standards that I carry myself it's tricky when you like someone when you actually like someone you don't want to bring something up that they're
gonna disagree with or it's gonna create you know conflict or tension but you know if there's
something that's important to you and they've done something that doesn't respect that gotta call
them out yeah particularly if this is someone that you actually see like some sort of
future exactly there's no point in keeping those things to yourself down down the long run whatever
the phrase is seem so much better at giving advice to people than to myself i feel like you that was
a really good one for you thanks like well i'm really impressed you like even picked that up for
yourself it's very hard to see your own issues yeah well i'm just really good at realizing things um do you have any resolutions for me by the way um i mean just i think what i would have just said
what you said before don't freak yourself out don't psych yourself up and just go with the flow
and don't be afraid of to catch feels and yeah the lack of a better phrase. I think you just need to stop frantically obsessing over things.
And if you like someone, just enjoy it.
I know.
And try and let it be easy.
Because it can be easy and it should be easy.
Like you said, with the right person, there's no reason that it wouldn't be difficult.
My mum was always just like, you just need to learn to open your heart don't
be afraid to feel vulnerable i'm like very as sweet as that is i'm cold-hearted bitch yeah no
so am i i don't think that if someone said that to me i'd be like oh god it'd make me feel like
even more you know cold-hearted yeah exactly um anyway did you have another one for yourself
um no that was it.
Oh.
It was my three.
You did three?
Yeah.
The other third one was Marion Kelly.
Yeah, so the third one was channel Marion Kelly sass
and apply to dating.
If anyone doesn't know, by the way,
Marion Kelly is that little girl
who was in the viral video of her dad as a professor
being interviewed on the BBC about, was it North Korea?
North Korea, yeah. And she just sassy walked into the room in this yellow jumper with like glasses and like a
lollipop and then her little sibling comes in and the mum comes in and scrambles them out it was
brilliant the funniest thing was the mum came in and everyone thought she was the nanny yeah it was
a bit um out of order yeah it was totally out of order but the video went viral and now there are
so many pictures of her.
They did a press conference
and you can see her sitting there.
They released a Christmas card.
They released a Christmas card
and she's doing the peace sign
and got a miserable face.
How is she so sassy at such a young age?
I just don't know,
but I love her so much.
She has a bright future ahead.
Really does, yeah.
Yeah, I think she's a good person too.
If in doubt,
what would Marion do?
Totally.
Also, the name marion for
a child is just excellent interesting isn't it does make you think of an old lady yeah i wouldn't
be surprised if that sort of shot up the list of baby names heard it here first i know maybe i'm
gonna name my child marion oh my god yes i can see it now just sorry i just got like a vision
a future vision of my future this time next year
millennial love end of 2018 i'll be sitting here with my baby marion with my baby my baby marion
married like what happened millennial marriage oh god next yeah millennial babies
um no we are the millennial babies. We are, very much so.
Anyway, it's been a good year.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm looking forward to the new year.
Yeah, I've dated some boys.
Yeah, dated some boys, dated some frogs.
Yeah.
Dated some arseholes, which I can say now because we're swearing.
Haven't had really any, like, you know, anything that exciting to be like,
wow, that was a really defining relationship of of 2017 no i've
definitely had some moments of like oh god i shouldn't have done that or oh i should have
done that or yeah actually 2017 has been quite interesting escapade wise oh yeah there have been
some good tales some good times my journal has been very interesting this year. You write a journal?
I sure do.
Do you?
I'm basically, I mainly just talk about my romantic escapades.
Every night?
Not every night, when I've got stuff to say.
Fine.
I'm basically Bridget Jones for a modern generation.
You can be Bridget Jones if I can be Carrie Bradshaw.
Fine.
I definitely won in that situation i prefer bridget anyway so and i think you'll find a chance up with colin first so
well also having a brief fling with hugh grant so yeah i am jealous about hugh grant yeah there
you go but i got great shoes yeah well i like giant pants. And blue soup.
Blue soup, oh yeah.
I know.
I'd like to think I have slightly more culinary prowess than Bridget,
but, you know, who can say?
Who really can say?
If you eat your boyfriend.
I eat a lot of chicken nuggets, to be honest.
So, yeah, really good diet from me.
Right, we've been waffling.
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