Lovett or Leave It - Cancel Culture Comes for Stalin

Episode Date: January 15, 2022

Lovett or Leave It returns to the great outdoors, specifically the part of the outdoors immediately adjacent to Lovett’s house - because when we said "live or else" we meant it. We talk COVID in schools with the L.A. Times’ Colleen Shalby and 90 Day Fiancé with Marcy Jarreau (90 Day Bae) at the exact same time, and put Adam Scott (Severance) to the test to find out if he really does love the ‘90s after all. Plus we round out our backyard soirée with a shockingly raccoon-heavy Rant Wheel.You can catch Adam Scott in Apple TV+'s new series Severance on February 18!For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [e-mail] and include the name of the podcast.

Welcome to Love It or Leave It, coming at you live from the deepest pit of Or Else. Love It or Leave It is being recorded from the only safe place in Los Angeles, my backyard, with the safest audience you can imagine, a handful of boosted people I employ who tested negative this morning. We've got a great show for you. Adam Scott is here. And he's brought the musical stylings of the 90s. Pundit the dog is here. Not a lot of fans for Punda. Reporter Colleen Shelby is here to give us the lowdown

on COVID in schools and comedian Marci Jaro is here to talk about 90 Day Fiance at the same exact time and the rant wheel because we managed to find things that bothered us this week, despite all the good news. Thanks, Adam. Let's get into it. What a week. On Thursday, the Supreme Court blocked the Biden administration's requirement that employees at large businesses either vaccinate themselves or test weekly while upholding a vaccine mandate for most health care workers in the U.S. COVID has the best lawyers on Hannity this week. That's it on Hannity this week. That's the joke. That's what we did. Lindsay, we started off strong on Hannity this week.

Lindsey Graham called out Mitch McConnell for his disloyalty to the 45th president when he said this. Well, elections are about the future. If you want to be a Republican leader in the House or the Senate, you have to have a working relationship with President Donald Trump and Senator McConnell effectively work with the leader of the Republican Party, Donald Trump. Obviously, this is pathetic for all the ways in which it's obviously pathetic. But a working relationship with Trump is such a ridiculous idea. It's like claiming to have a working relationship with a coyote that came into your kitchen by accidentally using the doggy door. Meanwhile, Senator Kyrsten Sinema gave a speech Thursday

supporting bills that enforce voting reform, but reiterated her opposition to eliminating the filibuster. These bills help treat the symptoms of the disease, but they do not fully address the disease itself. Sineman went on to say, so then naturally the patient asks, how am I supposed to address the underlying disease of division? You never explain that part. So the doctor says, it's simple. There's a great centrist in town by the name of Kirsten Sinema. Go see her. Then the patient weeps and says, but doctor, I am Kyrsten Sinema. Go see her. Then the patient weeps and says, but doctor,

I am Kyrsten Sinema. In fairness to Kyrsten Sinema, one way to eliminate the disease is to kill the person. President Biden announced today that the government will be distributing N95 masks and one billion at-home COVID tests, twice as many as previously promised. Your nostrils won't know what hit them. Biden told members of the press, we promise to have all the tests and masks you need before COVID-22 escapes from the lab. I've said too much. During a Senate Health Committee hearing, Kansas Senator Roger Marshall accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of shenanigans and claimed to be unable to find Fauci's financial disclosure. Senator Patty Murray interrupted the arguing pair to confirm that Fauci's financial disclosures are public record the arguing pair to confirm that Fauci's financial disclosures are public record. Amid the row,

Fauci said this under his breath. What a moron. Jesus Christ. What a moron. Jesus Christ. Fauci may have lost his cool, but he still passed the test. He never pulled his hand out of that little pain box. In a new

interview, no Frank Herbert fans? Not a lot of Dune heads? In a new interview with the Today Show's Craig Melvin, Vice President Kamala Harris had a moment. Does the administration say, you know what, this strategy isn't working. We're going to change strategies. Six former administration

officials last week wrote that open letter urging the administration to change course, to change strategy. Is it time? It is time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down. there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down. And so right now, we know we still have a number of people that that is in the million. And that little girl was high as shit. People are saying that Vice President Harris lost her train of thought, but I think that's

deeply unfair. She's just respecting the Biden method, confuse and disorient. A man has successfully received a heart transplant from a genetically engineered pig. It's an incredible achievement for science. In fact, the doctors were so elated that they tried not to let it bother them when the recipient insisted on eating the rest of the pig. That was just for me. That joke worked on no one. I kept telling people I thought it was great.

No one agreed. Just think about it. He gets a heart transplant from a pig. He wakes up and says, bring me the rest of the pig. It's not wrong, per se. It's really weird if that were to happen. Apparently also the recipient of the heart did stab a man. Yes, not after. Long before. Long before he stabbed someone, he then went to jail for it and then

was released. But the family of the person who was stabbed are a little upset that he got the heart. I don't think that's right. I don't think the hearts are just for people who don't stab. that he got the heart. I don't think that's right. I don't think the hearts are just for people who don't stab. Is it ethical to give a man who stabbed the pig's heart? Sure it is. It's not an ethical question. It's unrelated. In great news for me personally, a new study published in the Journal of Nature Products, that's tough. I didn't realize that. They suggested that cannabis compounds help prevent COVID-19 from entering healthy human cells. It's finally a hydroxychloroquine for liberals. I am sure that this will be debunked.

Don't tell me. I don't want to know. As far as I'm concerned, weed is God's booster. I'm going to be living my best fucking life. Meanwhile, a doctor who branded his initials onto a patient's liver using an argon beam coagulator. He's been removed from the medical profession and is no longer allowed to practice. Say what you want, but targeted advertising has gone too far. Who's going to see that?

The radiologist who saw it on the x-ray was like, that's so stupid. Yeah, I bought a vacuum last week. Why are you advertising a vacuum on that man's liver? That's a stupid algorithm. I already bought a vacuum. A heroic African giant pouch rat detected over 100 landmines in Cambodia and died at the age of eight.

He only found them because every single one was under a slice of pizza, but still was incredible numbers. Lisa Binet and Jason Momoa announced their decision to separate after four years of marriage. They're getting joint custody of Lenny Kravitz. The FDA is revoking its 1977 standard requiring French dressing to consist of at least 35% vegetable oil and vinegar, lemon juice, or both. Now, anything can be called French dressing as long as it's bottled in the dressing region of France. And finally, this is tough,

and finally, Robert Durst died this week at 78, just months after being convicted for the murder of his friend Susan Berman, a crime explored in the HBO true crime docuseries that clothes with Durst died this week at 78, just months after being convicted for the murder of his friend Susan Berman, a crime explored in the HBO true crime docuseries that closed with Durst seeming to confess while wearing a microphone. I like to think that Betty White, Bob Saget, and Sidney Poitier said,

what took you so long at the exact same time? Then a sly smile spread across Robert Durst's face as he replied, jinx. When we come back, it's reality versus reality TV. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. And we're back.

If you're a parent, a child, a teacher, or just someone who occasionally glances at the news, you are no doubt aware of the COVID quagmire into which our schools are swirling and sinking. The chaos and harm of schools being open. The chaos and harm of schools being closed. The whole thing is very stressful, and it makes us want to completely shut down and distract ourselves with beautiful, wonderful, coma-inducing reality TV. But like America's schools, we can't shut down completely.

So here to talk about both COVID in the educational system and, when we can't handle it anymore, 90 Day Fiancé is Colleen Shelby of the Los Angeles Times and the host of the 90 Day Bay podcast, Marci Jarreau. Coming up. Thank you both for being here. Thank you. All right. Let's start with a serious question. All right, Colleen. So it's tough for kids to learn remotely. It's been very tough for schools to open. It's not like when the kids are back in school right now, it's Mr. Holland's opus. It's like a mess. Based on some of your reporting on L.A., for example, in-person learning is chaotic

with absences and staffing challenges. Can you talk a little bit about how educators are thinking about this question with no easy answers and a little bit about what it's been like for schools that do try to stay open? There's been a push from Biden administration down where educators really want to keep schools open, but there's a lot of safety concerns at play right now. So that's been adding to the closures that we're seeing, the remote school delays at times. I think that for the most part, the intention is to get kids back in the classroom. I mean, there was a large toll, emotional, psychological, that took place, I think, on children this past year when they were out of the classroom. And that's the big goal, to get everybody back in. But like you said, there's been absences. I mean,

I went to LAUSD schools on Tuesday, and I talked to students at the end of the day, and they said that the empty seats were really noticeable in the classrooms and that they're nervous. They're very concerned about what could take place with COVID. So I think that over the next few weeks, there's going to be a lot of changes that could happen unless we get to a steady stream of cases or come down from that. Marcy. Morning Bitch seems to have a real handle on how to take care of someone's medical needs. Should we put him in charge of America's COVID response? Yeah, and then he can replace Wendy Williams. Morning Bitch is the perfect person.

Morning Bitch could do anything you needed. Yesterday. If you asked me what 90 Day Fiance is, I would have said it's a reality show where two people get engaged and have to decide in 90 days whether or not to get married. I thought it was a completely light romp. But I understand that it also involves our broken immigration system. Is that right? Yes. That is bananas. Can you tell what is 90 day fiance? So, uh, well you're talking about right now before the 90 days, they're not even engaged yet, but 90 day fiance is someone has gotten engaged. They have a K one visa. They come to the U S they have 90 days to get married legally, or they have to go back to where they came from.

So and these are people who are meeting online. So they maybe have only seen each other for a few weeks before they come to America and are unfianced. Wow. That sounds gross. Yeah. And this is on television. It's great. It's the best thing you've ever seen.

And if it doesn't work out, somebody gets actually deported. You know, it just depends on when it doesn't work out. If it doesn't work out, if it doesn't work out before they get married, then yeah, they have to go home. But if they do get married and it doesn't work out,

well, guess who you might be responsible for for the next decade and will get a green card no matter who they cheated on you with. Whoa. It's great. And is Morning Bitch a host, a contestant? Okay, Morning Bitch. Okay, there is right now.

Is that Morning Bitch's Christian name? Morning Bitch is named Elijah. But upon meeting Morning Bitch, he says to his roommate who is dating a guy from Utah Caleb she happens to be a little person so Elijah lives with her and is a friend and helps with things but when she walks in her first thing in the morning morning bitch goes morning bitch and it's the best thing and then it's only up from there Colleeneen, after several days of canceled classes, the Chicago Teachers Union agreed teachers would come back to work Wednesday. Do you think we'll see more teachers actions, potential strikes? Do we think other districts are watching what

happened in Chicago and thinking it was like a bad lesson? It's a good question. I mean, we've seen sick outs that have been organized by teachers up in Northern California and Oakland and San Francisco, not necessarily by the unions, but by teachers who are really concerned over safety. And now we're seeing student organized walkouts in different parts of the country that are kind of spearing up because of similar reasons. They're concerned about safety. They're backing their teachers who want better safety resources. So over the coming weeks, it's possible that we do see more actions take place, especially since I think for teachers that feel like maybe they aren't being heard, that if there is some sort of action that does get a solution, then that might be something that prompts them. But I can't say for sure. So we've passed several stimulus bills that

contain money for schools to provide safety, to do preparedness. Have you seen what these schools have tried to do with those resources that have come in? I mean, I think a lot of it is going on to testing resources. And that, I mean, we all know that there's been a huge testing issue with just getting resources in time. So that I think has contributed to a slowdown. There were some districts that opened and then they went back to close for a couple days and then they reopened because of testing situations. There was a district that delayed opening because they couldn't get the tests in time they needed. So I think that there's supply, there's money, there's funds for it, but it's a matter of when the schools are actually getting the resources that they're looking for.

Marcy, what do you think is under Gino's hat? Very tall head, like? A very tall head. Like, cone head adjacent tall head. And who is Gino? Gino? Gino, he talks like this, he giggles a lot, and he's

with this absolute babe from Panama. And she is very jealous. So even if he goes to get takeout she likes to be on FaceTime and he's the strangest looking man he's great she's great she's very jealous she told us this week that he asked a friend of hers have you ever seen her explode and he goes oh yeah she apparently while getting her hair done the assistant burned her hair and she grabbed her by the head and tried to kill her. And she laughed and laughed and laughed about it.

The structure of this show is still completely mysterious to me. Colleen. What do advocates for remote learning right now say in response when people like Dr. Lena Nguyen, who is a health commissioner in Baltimore, remote learning right now say in response when people like Dr. Lena Nguyen, who is the health commissioner of Baltimore, say that basically left-wing activists are pushing for schools to remain closed, wrote that the Chicago teachers who demanded more testing and a remote option weren't following the science. What do the advocates for not reopening right now say to those kinds of criticisms? There's different answers for why advocates don't want to go back or for why advocates for remote learning don't want to go back. I mean, some of it has to do

with the masking protocol. Some parents just don't want their kids in masks all day. Some of it has to do with questions over the quarantine and isolation strategies, the contact tracing that's taking place. So I think that some may say that their concerns have a lot to do with science. But I think it could depend on which group you're talking to and in which part of the state you're talking about, because everything is really, you know, there's not one solid answer that I think it could depend on which group you're talking to and in which part of the state you're talking about, because everything is really, you know, there's not one solid answer that I think can kind of capture the narrative. I remember there was a moment when people were looking at what was happening, and I believe Rhode Island, and saying, oh, here's a place where they've, it's not been perfect, but they've tried their best to reopen schools. Have you lately seen any examples where there's been a district or a school that's had a successful effort to reopen that wasn't as chaotic as some of these examples? Nothing really comes to mind.

I mean, I've been following the universities for the past few weeks of what they're doing, the UC campuses, the Cal State campuses. And for them, it's a totally different situation than the K through 12 because they are going for remote. They are extending remote instruction. They are delaying in-person instruction. But again, that has to deal with what you're looking at because what's true over here might not be true over here. There's 61 public health departments in the state, so there's just a lot of factors, I think, at play.

Marcy, can you explain the girl who's selling farts in jars and how it relates to the 90 day fiance universe? Okay, so I don't even want to get into Stephanie. I don't like her. So she was she was selling her farts in a jar, right? Is it NFT, which is now all I know of it. I'm sorry. Is it NFT? Yeah. A digital fart. Uh huh. How does that? Well, because I don't know that she was sending them to everyone, or is that what she's, that might be what she transitioned to, actually. So she was selling legitimate farts in a jar,

and then she had a health issue, so she's no longer physically able because she had too many beans and protein shakes. This woman. You don't run out of farts. Well, she tried to make too many farts. That's what happened and it overloaded her system and she thought she was having a heart attack.

I'm not going to make a joke and call it a fart attack. I won't. I'm not going to do it. It's too low. I'm not doing it. It's beneath you. Yeah, and she sucks. She really blew it.

Yes. Colleen, what do you think about the farts in the jars? I wish I knew more about this situation. And Marcy, what do you think about the farts in the jars? I wish I knew more about this situation. And Marcy, what do you think we should do about the schools? I don't know, man. I don't have kids. Feeling pretty good about it right now. That's correct.

When we come back, Adam Scott is here. Before we move on with the show couple pieces of housekeeping first of all this week on Pod Save the World Ben talks with the former Ukrainian Prime Minister

about tensions with Russia plus Ben and Tommy discuss protests in Kazakhstan Boris Johnson's garden party how Novak Djokovic's vaccination status caused a diplomatic crisis in Australia

and more new episodes of Pod Save the World drop every Wednesday listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and check out the latest episode of Hysteria. Aaron Ryan is back from parental leave. Welcome back, Aaron, and joins co-host Alyssa Mastrobonico to talk about Democrats' lackluster action on protecting abortion access and voting rights. Plus, Data Schwartz stops by

to discuss how technology is weaponized against women and people of color and the tech dystopian future. New episodes of Hysteria drop every Thursday. Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. To be fair, it might be because I'm trapped in my backyard again, but it feels to me like we've returned to that stage of the pandemic where we first sought comfort in our sourdoughs, our embroidery kits, our Netflix docuseries about renowned tiger murderer and spectacular dresser

Joseph Allen Maldonado passage. But while everyone else remains stuck in a COVID limbo, my next guest is stuck in a much more pleasant place, the 1990s. Welcome back to the show, the one and only Adam Scott. Hi, Adam. Thanks for being here. So, Adam. Yeah. Everything old is new again, and yet some things are timeless. Wouldn't you agree? Wholeheartedly. You are infamously obsessed with bands that were huge in the 90s, as evidenced by the podcasts about them, U2, The Talking Heads, Red Hot Chili Peppers. My question for you is this. Do you remember when Bono and Tim Cook touched fingers at that Apple event?

Do you think about it as much as I do? I think about it a lot. Yeah. When when they were announcing the U2 album that was automatically on everyone's phone. So the moment they touched fingers, we all got a free U2 album. And it was it wasn't a planned finger touch. It was it was a dance of two people improv-ing how to greet each other. And somehow their hands went up in the air and then they touched fingers very high up. Do you remember that? No.

I don't think I saw it. I think I was on a plane. So I was getting like a news piecemeal and there was an Apple thing and then a U2 album. And it's already on your phone. And it was all weird. But the finger touch sounds tragic do you think it was it's weird that steve jobs thought he could treat cancer with bone broth and now there's so many dongles yeah that's that's weird what is that really what what he

thought he could cure cancer with i i believe i'm exaggerating slightly but i do believe he went to Mexico. It was like juice. I think there was a lot of broths. There was juices. Yeah. And it was like, no, man. That doesn't really work.

Now you want some double blind fucking. That's horse dewormer stuff, my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't work. It didn't work. And now nothing plugs into the phones. Yeah. Now I got all these cords.

Fire wires. Like, what? What? It doesn't work anymore. No. So, Adam, we consider you an expert in these 90s bands. Okay. And now, before we get any emails,

we're not saying that the bands we're going to ask you about were all formed in the 90s. They're just 90s. They were big bands in the 90s. They were like a big deal. They were a big deal. Sure. All right, so get ready to travel from 1992 to 2022

and back again in a game we're calling Spotify Free Europe. Oh, I love it. A little twist. I love it. That was for you. For Radio Free Europe. Yeah, you bet. Okay.

Putting it together. I love it. And so I'm going to ask you questions, very specific questions about some of your favorite 90s bands, and then I'm going to ask you questions about music from 2022. Oh, goodness.

Okay, great. Yeah. Great. And I don't know some of the answers, so it's exciting. Here we go. R.E.M I don't know some of the answers, so it's exciting. Here we go. R.E.M.'s What's the Frequency, Kenneth was titled after the phrase someone screamed while attacking what news anchor? Dan Rather. Dan Rather. What's the Frequency, Kenneth? This week, Kim Petras released

the dance video for her new single, which bears the name of what tropical fruit? Is it passion fruit, mangoes, or coconuts? Boy, I don't. It was passion fruits. So close. Yeah. Coconuts. Coconuts. But it was tropical.

That makes more sense. But it was tropical. You got it. You got it. In a lot of ways, you got it. I was close. Red Hot Chili Peppers question. In 2001, Flea founded the Silver Lake Conservatory of Music with his childhood friend.

Was it A, B, B-Tree, C, Me, or D, C? Wait. conservatory of music with his childhood friend was it a b b tree see me or dc wait what's what's hard to follow there could you could you say the choices one more time is it a b b like b e e sure okay i don't know what this is not. I don't understand. It's A, B, B, tree, C, me, or D, C. Tree. It's B, tree. It is. It's B, tree, as opposed to A, B, which would have been wrong. Yeah, yeah.

It's B, tree, not A, B. The answer's not B. The answer's B. Yeah, the B. It's B, tree. No, no. Right, but not B. Not B.

Not A. No, no, no, no. Not A, B. No. It's B, tree. Exactly. Yeah. So the answer is B, but not A.

Which of these bands will not be at Bonnaroo 2022 because we just made them up? Okay. Is it The Dip, 100 Drums, Eastern Choral, or Pigeons Playing Ping Pong? I hope 100 Drums is real. That is real. What was the last one? It's The Dip, Eastern Choral, or pigeons playing ping pong. Pigeons playing ping pong is not real.

It's real. Oh, no. Eastern Choral. What was the first music video Michael Stipe lip synced in? Losing My Religion. That is correct. He refused to do so until he saw Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares to You. That's right.

Which lead singer was excellent at chess as a child and competed internationally? What? Was it Michael Stipe, Anthony Kiedis, Bono, or Jerry Garcia? Jerry Garcia? No, it's Bono. Really? Yeah, good at chess, apparently. Wow.

Do you know how to play chess? I know what the horse does. Yeah, sure. Here's what I've never- You know what? That's all you need to know. Because the horse is the ones you learn the horse the right- Do you know how to play chess? I know what the horse does That's all you need to know Once you learn the horse Do you know how to play chess? Here's what I'm always amazed by I know what the horse does

And obviously I learned a lot From Queen's Gambit And that's the first bit of education Most people get in chess Here's what I've never understood I can think zero moves ahead. Sure. I know what the horse does.

I know what the bishop does. I know what the castle does. I know that's not its name. The key thing is I don't understand how people think more than zero moves ahead. When like, oh, I'm going to do this, they're going to do that, then I'm going to do this. No, don't have access to that.

No. Do you have access to that? You know what? I don't know how to play chess, but I know how to play three-dimensional chess. Wow. Holy shit. He sees all the angles. Yep. Many, many moves ahead, my friend. In the Star Trek universe, they have a kind of three-dimensional chess, but it always just seems like checkers. Yeah.

That's something cool about that. Have you watched MacGyver yet? There's new MacGyver? There's a series on Peacock you watched MacGyver yet? There's new MacGyver? There's a series on Peacock of new MacGyver. Fuck. Yeah, so checkers will figure. Has anyone watched it yet?

New MacGyver? I don't think people even know it exists. No, it's not MacGruber. No, MacGruber. Oh, it is MacGruber. MacGruber. Did I say MacGyver? I got excited that we were going to have new-

Oh, good Lord. No, no, no, no. I thought there was going to be new MacGyver episodes. No, MacGruber. Did I say MacGyver? I got excited that we were going to have new- Oh, good Lord. No, no, no, no. I thought there was going to be new MacGyver episodes. No, MacGruber. I'm sorry. Oh. MacGruber. There's a MacGruber series.

Oh, cool. Yeah. Everyone- We'll check that out. Has anyone seen MacGruber? It's so good. Anyway. Sorry.

Hopefully none of this will be in the podcast. Leave only this in. My entire appearance. There was a MacGyver reboot. There was, there was. You're right, there was. A young, hot MacGyver. All right, well, Ronan Farrow's entered the chat.

All right. Bono and the Edge wrote music for what catastrophic Broadway musical? Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark. That's correct. Bono has been knighted how many times? I don't know. Twice? Correct. Really? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. He gave that one out. Wow. That was the checkers to chess he talked about.

Seems like England, Ireland, what else? Well, it just seems like one isn't interesting, so two. Sure. You wouldn't be asking if it was one, probably. Right. It wouldn't make sense of question. It wouldn't occur to you. Australian 18-year-old The Kid Leroy is one of the hottest rappers in music

right now after collaborating with... Did I say it right? Yeah, I know I did. I know who The Kid Leroy is. Doesn't matter how he spells it. I know it's Leroy. He's one of the hottest rappers in music right now. The oldest I've ever sounded. Collaborating with Justin Bieber on the song Stay.

Which of these five boys on the screen is the Kid LAROI? One of these people is the Kid LAROI. Isn't that like Billy the Kid or something? I think that's... Some outlaw? Or is that the Kid LAROI? No, I don't think that. I think you're right.

But I think it is Joseph Stalin. It is? I think so, yeah. I think you're right, but I think it is Joseph Stalin. It is? I think so, yeah. I think it's a hot, young Joseph Stalin. Stalin was quite good-looking. It's breathtaking. JTT over there. JTT, yeah, we got Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

That's Machine Gun Kelly. It is Machine Gun Kelly. And I don't know who these two fellas are. Well, it's A or B. Is it the... I'm going to guess A. No, I'm going to guess B. Oh, no, you already got it.

You got it. Trust your gut. B was Jack Harlow. Who's that? I know him from the Lil Nas X video. All right, listen. All right, we get it, Amelia. You're very young.

How cool that must be. Do you know who Jack Harlow is? I saw the Lil Nas X video where they were in the pink prison outfits. I recognize him from that video. And I was thinking, that must be Jack Harlow. But I didn't know him. I don't know his work. I don't know his...

How about Stalin? Are you familiar with his work? Very familiar. Very familiar. Not a fan, for the record. You can still go see him, can't you? Yeah, he is... I mean, cancel culture got stolen pretty bad.

But which Red Hot Chili Peppers song made it into the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 192? Is it Under the Bridge, Suck My Kiss, Fella's Cock, or Give It Away? How gross is it that there's a song called Suck My Kiss? How is it the second grossest on this fucking list? I think Under the Bridge is probably. Correct. Correct. Correct. Despite his reputation as champion for the impoverished, Bono was named in what 2017

leak of documents related to offshore tax evasion? That's not a music question. What's the name of the trove of documents? Yeah. Yeah. You fuck. What's the name of the trove of documents? It's the Paradise Papers.

That was too hard. I wouldn't have gotten that. Is it really called the Paradise Papers? Yeah, there were the Paradise Papers and the Panama Papers. This one was in the Paradise Papers. And it's... People who are rich enough to just always be in paradise? Yeah.

They could just keep their money in paradise. They visited from time to time. Sure. And finally, who won the best alternative album at the 1992 Grammys? Nirvana, R.E.M., Tom Waits, or Sinead O'Connor? Nirvana, probably. It was R.E.M. for Out of Time.

Shawn Mendes? Charlie Puth? Fuck. Adam Scott, you've won the game. I don't know who these people are either. I mean, vaguely. I don't know who these people are either I mean vaguely I vaguely know who they are but I wouldn't be able to listen to a song

and be like oh that's Charlie Puth I love Stalin's TikTok me too so many TikToks are tried so hard but not Joseph Stalin's it seems effortless well it's literally effortless they should have an instagram account

for his dead body and every day just post it's half it's pictures of his dead body but like healthy dip recipes yeah totally you know guacamole yeah it's like wow this is like a mayonnaise free tuna salad yeah and it's over a picture of Stalin's body. I don't care about that part, but I love the tuna salad. I'm loving, like, the new season of Emily in Paris and just, like, what he's watching. Adam Scott, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. When we come back, the rant wheel.

Don't go anywhere. This is Love It or Leave It, and there's more on the way. And we're back. Adam Scott is sticking around for the rant wheel. Once again, let's welcome the wonderful Marcy Jaro, who will join Adam and I as we spin the rant wheel. This week on the wheel, we have Novak Djokovic, fans in every room, raccoonsons and just like that shangela's

all-stars ousting shoelaces peacock and the inability of people online to recognize that life is full of risks you know it works we spin the wheel wherever it lands we ran about the topic let's give it a spin. It has landed on raccoons, I believe suggested by Marcy. Okay, well, here's the thing about them, is they think everything is theirs. Like, truly, there's nothing you can do to stop them. I recently put cameras outside my house house and they are truly terrorizing the

neighborhood at all times. We have a little family of three, a mommy and two babies, and I've watched them since they were little. But two years ago, I was feeding feral cats in an effort to try to trap them, neuter them, and then release them. And these, so I had to feed them. Labor intensive activity. Oh, it was too much. And there was one cat who was very limpy, whatever. I put food out and these raccoons would fight anyone. They fought possums.

They fought skunks. And I was like, I got to stop this. I found a dismembered possum baby in my front yard. So I was like, I got to stop this. It's coming to blood. They still come back all the time looking for food. And then I swear they look right at the cameras. Like they know.

And they have opposable thumbs, so you know what they can do to the camera. They got those little thumbs. Those little thumbs. Ronan, when he was a child, had tiny little... Careful. He had birds, chicks, right? Yeah, I raised chickens.

He raised chickens, and chickens were getting picked off by raccoons, so they brought them in the house. And then the raccoons broke into the house, found the chickens in the bathroom, killed the chicks, and then the little fuckers washed their hands in the toilet and left.

Isn't that right, Ronan? That's right. To wash up. Professional assassins. And to leave a message, too. That's why I don't like them. I mean, I do like them. They left one chick alive to tell the story.

And they washed their hands. They're very cute, very scary. They're little thieves. All right, let's spin it again. It has landed on Peacock. Yeah, it's not that interesting, but I find the Peacock app to be like a puzzle. The thing with streaming apps to me is like, there are a couple of great ones, so we know how it's supposed to work. Yes.

Why make it so hard? It makes no sense. Like today I was on Peacock watching MacGruber. Did they pay you? I know. Jesus Christ. And if you're on a page for a show, you can't browse the episodes. You can only access that one page with an awkward still from the show and then a synopsis but do you know what i'm talking about like exactly what you're talking about incredibly difficult

and it doesn't make sense to me because hey like you know netflix the one that didn't exist then said we're gonna make the one thing and then became the biggest thing in the world just do what they're doing do exactly what they're doing right do you notice how none of the things that you're doing, Netflix is doing? Do you think the people at Netflix didn't think of not showing people the next episode? Just do what Netflix is doing, Peacock. Just do what Netflix is doing, Paramount Plus. Come on.

No, I don't want to watch a behind the scenes of last week's succession. I want the next episode. But there's also a little Paramount Plus quirk is if you've stopped a show like halfway through and then you come back to it later and you just press play, no matter where you are in the show, you have to sit through the 10 second Paramount Plus logo.

You bet. You bet you do. You know what I'm talking about? And Paramount Plus basically guesses where you are in the episode. If you pause an episode and come back later, they're like, we kind of remember. We rolled the dice.

We think this is what you wanted. And we pay for these. We have to pay for this to be bad. That's right. Peacock doesn't even let you know what you've clicked on. No. They don't know. If you hover on something, it's like, could be this one, could be this one.

They're all kind of dark, right? And there's one other thing that all these apps kind of do, which is the thing that they are interested in showing you the least is the thing you're currently watching. They will hide from you what you're in the middle of. Like, hey, I'll just mention Paramount+. You know I've been watching Drag Race two to three times a day for the last three months.

Where the fuck is it? Right. You know, Ronan? Sure. Let's spin it again. Speaking of, this is a very specific and brief rant. This has to do with the ousting of Shangela

on All Stars 3 of Drag Race, which aired in 2017. You fucking messy bitches. Getting rid of Shangela, that is some horse shit. In 2017. In 2017. In 2017, there was a terrible injustice

committed against Shangela, who came to that all-stars composition as assured and confident and comfortable in her own skin as any drag queen has, who had grown as a performer, who had grown as a person, who came every day and crushed it. And then RuPaul, who works in mysterious ways

and who we do not question, for whom my position is very clear, they and only they can frack wherever they want that's it no no i thought about it and i'm sorry rupaul can frack wherever the fuck rupaul wants to frack that's my official sincere position no one else decided to let the ejected queens vote on who would go to the final. And against God's law, the laws of humankind, since Shangela Packing, it was despicable. But it takes nothing away from Trixie's performance. Of course not.

Of course not. Let's spin it again. It's landed on shoelaces. Huh. Okay. Okay, so I don't leave the house a lot for a couple years now. About 22 months I've been staying inside a bit. And so when I do have to leave, I mean, I'm wearing shoelaceless boots right now.

I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't understand how long it takes to leave the house as it is, much less to add in tying and shoelaces. I don't know. And then all my cats have eaten through all the laces. Then what do you do? There's no backup option. When the cats eat the laces, you're fucked. That's it.

You're done. Why do we have, I just want to pull them on. And I really, I know it sounds like I'm joking right now, but I actually like have cried about it. Do you have tuna scented shoelaces? I honestly think it might be my feet. My feet stink. My feet stink in a very interesting way for them.

Wow. Okay. So that was like, surprisingly, and we've had a lot of rants on this show. Like a lot of rants, like hundreds of rants. I'm hot. That is truly the saddest and most pathetic rant in the history of this show.

Because it seems like you're angry not at shoelaces, which are of course not responsible for any of this, but in fact, cats and also yourself. But we're truly like why haven't we moved past it like how silly it's a string this is 2022 i know there's a lot of problems we can't solve but we should be able to figure it like why don't we go back to velcro that was smart velcro is smart it's very smart rebox with the vel. Literally, my ears are hot right now. I feel like I've revealed too much. I have a potential solution for you.

I saw on Shark Tank and have brought them into my life, and I'm actually wearing them now. They're elastic shoelaces. So you put them on your shoes, and they look like regular shoelaces, but it turns any shoe into a slip-on. Adam, I would have never known. Yeah, I know. You can't tell.

I can't tell. Wow. These are elastic right here. On Shark Tank, you say? Everyone get a good look. On Shark Tank. On Shark Tank. And she got turned down by everyone.

But I was like, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Have you considered, I don't know if this idea has been on Shark Class, Shark Tank. Shark Class? Shark Class? Shark Class. Have you considered putting your shoes in a closet? Oh, yeah, they have run of the house. They're worse than raccoons.

I see. I see. All right, let's spin it again. It has landed on and just like that and i'm so glad it did because you've been talking about it on pods save america and stuff i was gonna come on and defend and just like that please do i want to hear it i'm so excited about this just a nanosecond of backstory i had covid uh classic I had COVID classic, I guess, the pre-vaccine, and was alone because I was shooting the show Severance in New York with my family or anything. So I had to shut in the apartment for 10 days and watched Sex and the City in its entirety and then watch the movies. And the TV show, I thought was,

it's pretty extraordinary what it is. So then this show comes along and now, you know, like right at the end of my COVID spell, this thing gets announced and I'm just like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening. So while everything that everyone's saying is totally legit and understandable, I just felt like people were really fast

and a little gleeful to shit on the show. There's something about them taking a show that was a 22 to 25 minute comedy and just slowing it down to like an hour long length and not even really depending on jokes to the point where it's not even really a comedy anymore. And I'm not saying that as like a knock on the jokes they're writing.

They've just sort of slowed down some much quieter show. Of course, there are clunky things here and there, but I admire a lot about the show and i feel like people are shitting all over it and for some reasons that are legit but i also think there's a lot of good to it as well um disagree no the uh no my deeper problem with this show is and i'm on a text chain with a bunch of people that were huge fans of the old version, right? That's something that's hard. People that were the biggest of fans are like, this isn't what I wanted. And I think for women and some gay men, like, oh, this was something that showed a kind of version of being a single woman or a gay man in New York that was really exciting in your 30s.

And then all of a sudden they're in their 50s. It's like, oh, Sex and the City is coming back. Let's see what it's like when these gals have fun in their 30s. And then all of a sudden they're in their 50s. It's like, oh, sex in the city is coming back. Let's see what it's like when these gals have fun in their 50s. And they're like, no fun for us. A lot of death, a lot of drinking. And look, one thing that just happens to a lot of middle-aged white women in New York is they go into a cryogenic tube for 20 years, learn nothing about the culture, and they come out of their cryogenic tube and they're each assigned a woman of color

as a mentor slash teacher to tell them about things like dating, Diwali, art, race in America, transgender issues. These are all things that I think middle-aged white women in Manhattan, they just get, it's something that happens through the city. You get assigned a kind of mentor, which is one of the things that hasn't been,

and shame on me for not appreciating that that's something that happens in real life and is a good part of New York City in 2022 post-COVID. Yeah. I think something that's really strange about it is that the original show was creating culture and showing us where culture is going and breaking through and like i said kind of creating its own culture this one is trying to wedge its way into culture and asking is this right and kind of getting in there and that's

jarring but i think it's cool that they're trying as clunky as it can be. And I totally hear what you're saying and see it. But I also think it's at least they're trying to do something. I think it's intentional. You think it's intentional? I think it's intentional. I'm giving them a benefit of the doubt here that they are trying to say something about what we feel about older women i may be giving them that they're cloistered and yeah protected they try and they think that they are up to date

but that they are not it's too much of the benefit of the doubt though i think but i have high hopes i will never stop watching it i will never stop watching it. And I'll say one more thing. So Samantha broke up with her best friends for decades because Carrie didn't hire her to do PR for her book. Then Carrie's husband fucking dies. And Samantha texts

how sorry she is. I don't think so. I don't think so. Has Ronan been watching all along with you? No. He pops in and out. He pops in and out. He pops in and out. And he kind of pops in. He sits down.

He goes, my God, this is a joyless show. And then just walks out. Hey, what's all this then? You got some kind of a show going out here in the yard? Stop it right now. Get off my lawn. Oh, well, Ronan told us we have to leave. That's our show. Adam Scott,

Marcy Jarreau, thank you both so much for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. When we come back, we'll end on a high note. And we're back! Colleen Shelby, Marcy Jarreau, and Adam Scott, thank you all so much for being here.

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