Lovett or Leave It - Congress Falls into an RFK-Hole

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

This week, Trump dodges the crypt and rakes in the crypto. Congress comes down with a bad case of RFK Jr., and the Epstein survivors have Jeffrey’s old pals in a cold sweat. A die-hard Latino MAGA v...oter (Oscar Nuñez) stops by to explain why, despite all evidence, sí Trump puede. Oscar and Alex Borstein go on the record to guess all the news that’s fit to print. And then we crack open the Egg of Truth and have ourselves one shell of a time.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.Get tickets to LOLI NYC & more upcoming shows at Crooked.com/events.Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at crookedcon.com.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here.For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

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Starting point is 00:01:47 and use code love it for 20% off your first purchase. That's B-O-M-B-A-S.com slash love it, code love it at checkout. What's up it or leave it, it's love it or leave it. What's up, Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It live, from Dynasty Typewriter. We have got a great show for you tonight. Oscar Nunez and Alex Boorstein are here. It's a perfect week because they're both proudly anti-VAC,
Starting point is 00:02:27 so it'll be great to get another perspective on it. We'll talk to a member of Latinos for Trump. That'll be interesting. Plus, the return of the egg of truth. Now, you may not realize it's a return of the egg of truth because we didn't call it that the first time. There was just an egg in the segment, and we liked it. So now it's the egg of truth.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, it's exciting, I know. But first, let's get into it. What a week? Over the Labor Day holiday, the internet was a buzz with rumors that Donald Trump had died or had been hospitalized after he took a multi-day break
Starting point is 00:03:08 from public appearances. The whole thing was a little silly. It's Labor Day, not Christmas. The rumors... The rumors were... It's not allowed. The rumors were partly fueled by the mysterious bruising on Trump's hand,
Starting point is 00:03:19 which had been visible in photos for months, and which Trump's doctors attributed to frequent handshaking and the use of aspirin. And okay, he's a 79-year-old man. That's at least vaguely plausible. But you have to admit, it was weird for J.D. Vance to spend the weekend talking about how being buried alive in a pyramid's subterranean chamber
Starting point is 00:03:39 facing your boss's tomb is what makes America the greatest country on earth. It also didn't help when on Sunday, Trump wrote on social media, never felt better in my life. Which in all of human history has never been said without being defensive. Nobody who's never felt better in their life, says it. They're wakeboarding with their second husband or hitting the orgy tent at Burning Man. The only people who shout never felt better in my life are elderly widowers demanding their car keys back from a deeply epithetic son-in-law or lapsed alcoholics making a scene at their
Starting point is 00:04:13 nephew's confirmation. But on Tuesday, Trump was alive and hotter than ever. He laughed off the rumors. How did you find out over the weekend that you were dead? You see that? You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy, but last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful. They went very well, like this is going very well. And then I didn't do any for two days, and they said, there must be something wrong with him. It was a nice change of pace to speculate about why an ancient, decrepit Republican president was mysteriously aptance from the public eye. It was refreshing, like that nap Joe Biden took during the debate.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But there was something revealing about this. No one trusts this White House to tell the truth about the president's health. And it's totally plausible that they'd cover up for his decline. After all, if it's easy enough for a Democrat to pull off, Republicans have got to be twice as good at it. Biden's allies had to spend time and energy on the mental gymnastics to convince themselves as they were doing the right thing, whereas Trump's allies can go straight to the part
Starting point is 00:05:18 where they paint eyes on his closed eyelids. Trump was also asked about the viral video of bags being tossed out of the white. House window that somehow fed speculation about his absence, and here's what he said. No, that's probably AI generating. They're all heavily armored and bulletproof. Number one, they're sealed, and number two, each window weighs about 600 pounds. You have to be pretty strong to open them up. But the video definitely wasn't AI. Those windows had the exact right number of boobs. And the White House had already confirmed that the video was real, saying in a statement
Starting point is 00:05:56 that it was a contractor doing regular maintenance while the president was gone. Just that usual standard bimonthly toilet replacement. But look, maybe AI has some upside. And one of the problems we have with AI, it's both good and bad. If something happens really bad, just blame AI.
Starting point is 00:06:15 But also they create things, you know. It works both ways. If something happens, it's really bad. Maybe I'll have to just blame AI. First of all, You can't blame AI and then joke about how you can just blame whatever you want on AI in the same press conference. Second, I do feel like this is his way of telling us that there's a photo of him kissing Jeffrey Epstein on the lips. Speaking of technologies unraveling our society, on Monday, the Trump family's cryptocurrency venture called World Liberty Financial launched trading of its token on public markets, adding as much as $5 billion to the Trump,
Starting point is 00:06:56 family's net worth on its first day of trading. But are they happy? The company's CEO is Zach Wittkov, who is the son of Trump's Middle East envoy, Steve Wichkopf, and who has met with multiple foreign leaders involved in negotiations with the Trump administration. This is the only kind of father-son bonding that these people understand. What did the Pakistani prime minister say? Is their version of, boy, can that Otani pitch?
Starting point is 00:07:22 is that that literally like i that didn't work when we were doing the run-through and i'm realizing it's that's not universal that's my father and that's fine but that's just one example of the many ways in which this enterprise is perhaps the most brazen act of corruption in American history. For example, world liberty has been propped up by crypto billionaire Justin Sun. What's his deal? Funny story. The SEC charged Sun with security fraud in 2023. And according to the Treasury Department at the time, his network, Tron, had increasingly become the go-to platform for criminals. One outside research firm found that half of all illegal crypto activity was taking place using the service. The Wall Street Journal reported that
Starting point is 00:08:17 Sun was so worried about being arrested if he entered the United States. states, he missed a flight on one of Jeff Bezos's rockets, even though he had paid $28 million for the ticket. And Blue Argent has a strict no-refunds policy, which is why all those women were on that flight, even after that witch told Laura Sanchez she would die in space. Then Trump wins the election. You may have actually heard about Sun around this time because of an unrelated but also dystopian story. Remember when somebody paid 6.2.2. million dollars at auction for a banana duct tape to a wall
Starting point is 00:08:54 and then ate at a press conference? Billionaire Justin's son kept his promise to eat the very pricey fruit, which he did. Justin's son is the person that ate that fucking banana. And thank God because I was actually stretching my ear when I accidentally bid 6.1.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Crazy. But that wasn't Sun's only splashy spend in that period. In the week between buying and eating, eating the banana, which, and I looked into this while figuring out the timeline, because I saw that he had bought the banana duct tape thing. It's a piece of art called comedian on a Wednesday, and then he wanted to eat it the following Friday. I was like, what are we dealing with
Starting point is 00:09:36 doing here? That's a bad banana. And so, like, what is he actually buying when he buys a $6.2 million dollar banana duct tape to a wall? Guess what? You're not even getting a banana. You get a roll of duct tape and instructions for how to attach a banana you provide to a wall of your choosing. That's what he bought. So when he eats the banana earlier, someone followed
Starting point is 00:09:59 the instructions and attached a new banana to the wall that he took down and ate. But between the buying and the eating, Son bought $30 million worth of World Liberty Financial tokens,
Starting point is 00:10:16 the majority of tokens that had been purchased. at the time. In January, Sun increased his position. In February, the SEC now controlled by Trump paused their investigation into Sun. Coincidence? No. By May, Sun also became the largest holder of Trump's meme coin. He even attended Trump's crypto gala, which means he went from being a target for arrest under one administration to a VIP guest of the following administration. And when Trump slid that glass slipper onto his dainty foot, oh, I knew we were in trouble. In July, in a deal brokered by a company with ties to the Trump family,
Starting point is 00:10:52 Tron became publicly traded. And now, backed by Sun and enmeshed in Tron's ecosystem, World Liberty Financial has increased the Trump family's net worth by billions. But are they happy? Yeah, it seems like they are. Money is the one thing they care about. But now let's turn from conflicts of interest to interesting conflicts. On Thursday, the nation's health secretary and his history,
Starting point is 00:11:17 History's dumbest pre-Lobotomy Kennedy, R.FK Jr., sat for a Senate hearing. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. Sat for a Senate hearing where he was grilled about the chaos at the CDC and his sweeping anti-vaccine policies. And to his chagrin, Elizabeth Warren, wasn't even a little bit impressed by how many push-ups he could do. Here's R of K explaining why he asked CDC director Susan Monterez to resign. head of the CDC that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule that she had to resign. No, I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, are you a trustworthy person? And she said no. So if you had an employee who told you
Starting point is 00:12:08 they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign, Senator? Is he Bernie laughing? I hadn't seen that. Bernie's like, what? the fuck he can't even make up a lie that makes sense say she kept eating your roadkill lunch from the office fridge come up with something I asked her if she was trustworthy
Starting point is 00:12:29 and she said no sounds pretty trustworthy to me it's a paradoxical question it can't be answered here's RFK Jr lying about Trump's cuts to Medicaid should they have access to good science about healthy food absolutely well then how is that going to happen with the medicaid cuts that are taking place there are no cuts to medicates sir that is an absurd
Starting point is 00:13:01 obviously it's a terrible lie but r fk junior has no choice he has to destroy the health care system or ursula won't give him his voice back Here's R of K pleading ignorance about the pandemic. Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID? I don't know how many died. You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services. You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID? I don't think anybody knows that.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's unknowable, like what happens at the center of a black hole or why the Kennedy curse crapped out right when we needed it most. Here he is somehow pulling off an impressive, simultaneous double lie. So let me ask you, when were you lying, sir? When you told this committee that you were not anti-Vax or when you told Americans that there's no safe and effective vaccine? Both things are true. Look.
Starting point is 00:14:17 This guy's very comfortable existing in contradictions. He looks well-rested, but also exhausted. He's jacked, but also seems like he could die at any moment. Here's a senator and actual doctor, Bill Cassidy, on Kennedy's completely incomprehensible worldview. Mr. Secretary, do you agree with me that the president, that the president deserves a Nobel Prize for Operation Warp Speed? Yeah, absolutely, Senator.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So let me ask you. But you just told Senator Bennett that the COVID vaccine killed more people than COVID. And this is good stuff. But Cassidy gave a speech supporting RFK's nomination after Cassidy was reassured by Kennedy that he would not so distrust about vaccines, despite that being his most famous and constant pastime for decades. It's like asking Ethel Cain to perform at your wedding and then being bummed, she's only doing sad songs.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's Ethel Cain. You don't go to the hardware store to buy milk. And here is Kennedy after the hearing spotting a dead raccoon on the side of the road. Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys. By the way, the whole time, R.K. Jr. was breathing into the mic like Michael Myers in Halloween. Wrenching fear.
Starting point is 00:15:42 The RSD vaccine honors his kids protection against the worst effects. to the virus. But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable. An aide literally had to come up to whisper in his ear that he needed to turn off his mic between his answers. Sir, you sound insane. Even when you're not speaking. It's actually amazing. And speaking of mouth breathers, Republicans in Congress are desperate to find a way to appease the pressure, from the left and the right to release the Epstein files without actually doing it. Like when you put on your workout clothes
Starting point is 00:16:23 and wear them all day in lieu of going to the gym. With great fanfare, House Oversight Chairman James Comer published 34,000 Epstein files online, which sounds like a lot, except A, each file was an image of a single piece of paper of a document, which meant they divided
Starting point is 00:16:43 every single document into many, many, many files. B, most of the materials had already been public and C, this is happening as Republicans are blocking a vote to force the Justice Department to release the actual files that Trump wants hidden.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Will it work? Right now, there is a discharge petition on the floor of the House by Roe Kana and Thomas Massey joined by over 100 Democrats plus Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace, and Lauren Bobert, who we've always liked
Starting point is 00:17:09 and they need two more Republicans to join for it to pass. Maybe we'll learn the truth, or maybe we won't. All of us, and if you're listening to this, I believe it applies, we've grown used to a specific frustration that the truth about Trump is known, but in some combination, that truth doesn't reach enough people, that not enough people trust the information, or it doesn't matter to enough people. It's led to bitterness, especially among people that are hyper-engaged and hyper-online, turning inward, and casting about for villains, if only the Times
Starting point is 00:17:41 headlines were more accurate, if only journalists would call a lie-al-law, if only Schumer were less cringe. If only people like the pod bros would stop platforming Bill Maher. If only Taylor Swift, a lesbian, would speak out. And I get that frustration, but it will seem like a luxury as Trump and his ally seek to build a world where the truth isn't knowable at all. We know what RFK is doing to dismantle the CDC because of the doctors and scientists who were fired or who quit for refusing to be a part of his war on vaccines and public health. We can trust job numbers and economic reports because of the independence that Trump hasn't yet been able to destroy. But as Trump's purge continues, of economists and intelligence officials and doctors and scientists, anyone with
Starting point is 00:18:21 equities outside of loyalty to him, that will become more difficult. And that future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed. Why did Trump, who ran as a China hawk, suddenly grow so conciliatory with China? Praising China's president, allowing 600,000 student visas for Chinese nationals, which is base fucking hates, pausing tariffs, dissuading Taiwan's leadership from visiting the U.S. reversing a Biden-era ban on selling China advanced AI trips from Nvidia? The answer is we have no fucking idea. Is it because he enjoys the company of autocrats like Xi and Putin? Is it because of ongoing talks behind the scenes? Is it because somebody showed him a deposit into a crypto wallet that made his heart sing? We don't know and we may never know. Meanwhile, even Molania is worried
Starting point is 00:19:01 about the arms race in AI. Cars now steer themselves through our cities. Robots hold steady hands in the operating room, and drones are redefining the future of war. Innovations of first-generation humanoid, factory automation, and autonomous vehicles have searched from private sector investment. Every one of these advancements, it's power by AI. The robots are here. Our future is no longer science. The robots are here, and I am one of them, and it is a nightmare inside my circuits.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Please, please, spray me with hobs, set me free. And the rumors and paranoia about Trump's health are an omen, too, the kind of breathless speculation about the dear leader, more associated with dictatorships than with a functioning democracy. But there were two developments this week that cut against the trend. First, California, Washington, and Oregon announced a new alliance to provide accurate public health information and vaccine recommendations to fill the gap created by RFK's destruction at HHS. It's worth saying, yeah, you should applaud that.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's good. It is worth saying, yes, Democrats have often been caught flat-footed by Trump because of their flat feet and duck-like gates. I don't know. But we've also seen examples like this one and like redistricting in California where they've been willing to step up. And if you think we're woke now,
Starting point is 00:20:50 just wait until we start cooking up our own West Coast vaccines. We're going to have genders that'll blow their fucking minds. Also, this week, a group of Epstein's victims joined lawmakers at a press conference to demand the release of all of the Epstein files. We are the Americans that you promised to protect, and we need your help. Please, President Trump, pass this bill and help us.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But I already left you the bills on the nightstand, said it confused Trump. Even Marjorie Taylor Green was grossed out. Today, he called it a hoax while these women were speaking out, and they were saying, we're not a hoax. were human beings. It's not a hoax because Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted pedophile. One of the Trump admin officials came out and called this a hostile act
Starting point is 00:21:50 against the Trump administration. I take very big offense to that. The hostile act was Jeffrey Epstein raping 14-year-old girls. That was the hostile act, and it's not a hoax. Look, the vent diagram of overlap of things Marjorie Taylor Green and I agree on. It is microscopically narrow.
Starting point is 00:22:10 but I imagine it includes what Jeffrey Epstein did was wrong and the fact that you have to consume protein evenly over the course of the entire day to maximize absorption. It's not just about one big number, people. That's just putting strain on the kidneys. And then the Epstein survivors said this. And let me announce now,
Starting point is 00:22:38 several of us, Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names. We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names. We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world. Massey, one of the sponsors of that resolution, said he and Marjorie Taylor Green would be willing to read the names they gather in the House chamber because, as he pointed out,
Starting point is 00:23:14 those women could potentially be sued, but members of Congress are protected by the Constitution to say whatever the fuck they want on the House floor. Which usually from Massey and MTG is a bug, not a feature. But on this one, I'm in. Go off, Queens. But you can't trust them. I know. I'm still in. Let's roll the dice. Let's be legends. The point is, Trump is powerful, but he's not all powerful.
Starting point is 00:23:43 What's to stop these accusers from banning together like they did this week? Nothing. It's a creative response to a president who has turned the Department of Justice into his personal law firm. What's to stop California, the fourth largest economy on earth, from filling the gaps left by the hollowed-out CDC? Nothing. It's a novel response to an unprecedented assault on public health. Trump counts on his opponents to be slow to react, unsure of how to use their power. But that's not inevitable.
Starting point is 00:24:08 and this is still America. And we're a rebellious and defiant bunch, distrustful of authority. We're not easily ruled. We have strengths, too. And yes, a lot of that energy right now is going towards finding way to get more protein into desserts.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But just wait until we focus all of that ingenuity and talent and creativity and daring do on saving democracy. We're going to get so much protein in there. All right. And with that, we'll be right back. We have a charter member of Latinos for Trump.
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Starting point is 00:26:34 Here to discuss it, it's a die-hard, MAGA-support. and Charter Latinos for Trump member, it's Miguel Gonzalez. Maga! Maga! Maga! Maga! Maga! Maga! Maga! Maagha! Hi! Hello! Hi, Miguel. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for being here.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Thank you for those wonderful words. I've been listening backstage to the monologue. Everything's fantastic! So how's your summer been? How has? Do you see who's in the White House? Yeah. And we're not leaving. So it's pretty good,
Starting point is 00:27:07 my friend. Okay. It's fantastic. Now, there was a new, some new polling that came out, and it did show that Trump got more of the Latino vote than previously thought. Yes. A historically high percentage was 48 to 51%. Why did you personally vote for him? Well, I've been on board with Trump the whole time. Yeah. I like winners. Guilty. I like a wide-shouldered, strong men who know in the farm. And when you were a child, you remember, there's two, there's a cow and a bull. Pick which one you want to be.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Okay, for me, it's a bull. Right, yeah. That's just the guy. That's just the man. The bull's the man. The cow's a woman and a bull's a man. Yes. And that's, you just want the bull, the man.
Starting point is 00:28:05 To lead, yes. especially in times like this, everyone's confused, no one wants to know what to do. The women say, oh, we want this, we want a vote, we want to do this, we know, you know what women want? What? My wife likes to hike, and she does a thermos with water,
Starting point is 00:28:26 they drink the water, and they go hiking. And that's what she went, and in the, no, so what we want to do is coming down the, I don't know if you're getting to this, but I will tell you, because they count on the analogy, we are going to lift the responsibility of voting from the women's.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Oh, you're going to lift it. You're going to lift it from them. Yes. So they can do whatever they, you know, women. You know, they're going to do the thing, and they can read the books like they always want. We're so smart. Go ahead, read all the books you want. The responsibility of voting should not be on the shoulders of the women's.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It's a lot to think about. Now, there's been, a little bit of blowback, you know, even though Trump did- How do you, how, what, what do you mean blowback? Well, there's, there's just been some, some evidence that even though Trump did get a lot of support from Latino voters, now 63% of Latino voters disapprove of how Trump is handling the economy, given that economic relief was the main reason they voted for him. Tariffs have raised prices, people have not seen him address, the number one reason that got
Starting point is 00:29:36 people to give him a second chance. And where are you getting your information from? This is from... Let me guess, Rachel Malah! Oh! Oh, what a surprise? I don't think it's from her. It's just a poll. Well, I mean, you have to admit that there are
Starting point is 00:29:52 people that thought he was going to bring down prices and prices haven't come down. The prices are going down. I am told this. When I send my people go and do their shopping for me and they say, the prices are better than ever, so I don't know where you're getting your information, but we will agree to disagree.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Well, no, I don't want. I won't. They are not going down. Your information is wrong. Prices are up. They are not down. Tariffs have caused him to go up. He hasn't addressed inflation. Prices of goods we import are up. The tariffs are paid by the Chinese that we have put tariffs on the Chinese and they are paying for that. And if you think that they can't pay their own tariffs, then that to me strikes me as a little racist. The China man is industrious. The China man works hard and the China man can pay the taxes
Starting point is 00:30:41 and you're going to come and tell me the Chinese can't afford the tariffs. He's putting their feet to the fire. It's about time. It's about time. It's about time. It's about time. Let me tell you something, my friend.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Tell me something. Because I know for a fact. I'm excited to hear what this fact is. That you are engaged to be That's true. To a man. Mm-hmm. And they say, oh,
Starting point is 00:31:11 a Republican Party. Oh, no, no. They're so anti-gay. They're so anti-gay. Let me tell you, my friend. When something is a forbidding or shunned,
Starting point is 00:31:22 you see, I can tell by your face, it's taboo. It's called David Boy sang the song, Mr. Lawrence at Christmas. My love wears forbidden colors. So come on over
Starting point is 00:31:34 to this side because it's a taboo and it makes it hotter. It makes it hotter. We are in the... The gays in our... They are in the closet and they are quiet. And they grind quietly.
Starting point is 00:31:45 We have gays. No, we don't have gays. We have them, but they're quiet. The way they should be, and it makes it hotter, John. I'm beginning... I'm beginning to think there's... My grandfather used to say,
Starting point is 00:31:56 men are for love, women are for babies. And... And your wife loves to hide. She loves to hike. Yes. I love that for you. It seems like you got a healthy thing going. So in March, Trump revoked temporary legal status for thousands of Cuban immigrants.
Starting point is 00:32:16 You yourself, Miguel, are a Cuban American. What is your response? What did you say to your neighbors? What did your neighbors say to you? You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. In this case, the eggs are some human rights. But that's the sacrifice that I am willing to make for a... better, stronger America.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And America, they're Nazis, they're white pride. We have a quota. We will accept a little bit of cinnamon and a little bit of black and a little bit of gay and a little bit of women's into the mixture of the white power. And it works splendidly. Because it makes you feel special in a way.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yes, it does. You feel, because there's going to be few, because you sort of got into the door closed behind you. Thank you, Einstein. Give this man a lollipop. Yes. Yes. Hey, Miguel, do you ever think that may be...
Starting point is 00:33:18 By the way, by the way, earlier you said, oh, that, that, your wife, I hope that works out, but it was a snide remark. It was a snide, I got it. And I want to tell you something. I want to tell you something right now. I am, I went, I'm a man and I am a heteroseech.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I don't know if I'm implied or whatever. I'm not, what I'm saying, I know gay guys in there, I'm not, I took my, I took my wife on a date, and we went home, and I put my penis inside her. Yeah, we get it. We know what sex is. You don't need to, what is good, what are you looking up? vagina
Starting point is 00:34:03 and I compare notes with Lindsay a gram and we do it the same way he's a big man he likes the women's too and we take the penis in the vagina and you push it in pull it down
Starting point is 00:34:23 and then I do something I do something that men have to do you listen and they say stop stop and I say and then we high five and he's done, and everyone's happy. So don't tell me. And you know what? I apologize.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I was a little snide, and I apologize. I apologize. See, there's two sides can talk. This is what it's about. But I would just be, I am feeling a sense that there are some, that there's something about the manliness. Always the downside, always with the negative.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Go ahead. That there's something appealing to you about this sort of masculinity and manhood and this idea of strength that maybe it's compensating for something for some sense of which you don't belong. We go with our leader to the UFC fights. Do you know what this is?
Starting point is 00:35:14 The M.M.A. Yeah, yeah. The M.A. So we go in a group of men not compensated for M.L. There's something jump between you and me? In the bathrooms, there are... Certain stalls have holes.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And they are quite glorious. If you know what I mean. And there's a reason that the men, the tough guys with the camel shirts and they wear the baseball caps backwards. Think about that. So I don't see any compensation because we are men in a group together watching men
Starting point is 00:35:43 fight and that's what men do. And it's very macho, very macho indeed. So you're not willing to concede that there's any reason, any of us might have criticisms of the way Trump has governed these first seven months. There's nothing that you can admit that you wish he was
Starting point is 00:36:00 doing differently. No way in which he has failed, even on your own terms. If any, you say, he works too hard. And I want him to take a break. And he's exhausting himself. He is a man. And I always start them as an answer. Don't say he's real. He always, they've added like five years to his age. He's a younger man than he is because they think it as wisdom. And I say, no, let him be his own age. He's not an old man. All right. I want to just run through some things. What do you think about J.D. Vance? He's problematic, but we are working with him. We are working with him, trying to manipulate and massage.
Starting point is 00:36:42 There's tinctures being added to his diet. We don't know whether to give him a full long beard or shave it off. He's not, we're working with him. Because the leader, the dear leader is very charismatic, very wonderful. And J.D. Vance, we don't know what to do is something. Should happen. God forbid, we don't know what's going to happen. What I said, Baron.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You want Baron? Oh, have you seen him? Like a skyscraper, white, pure, seven feet, eight inches. He goes to NYU. He's a beautiful boy. Eyes, dead eyes, the eyes of Stephen Miller. No life like a shark. But he's a beautiful, white, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:24 What do you think about Stephen Miller? I don't know what happened to him. he's he we don't you know he we try to not
Starting point is 00:37:35 let him know that there are Nazis in the party because he's Jewish yes right he's a Jewish man with Nazis
Starting point is 00:37:46 all around him and he doesn't seem to mind and so we're keeping that from him as long as we can that makes sense because in his soul he's a little bit
Starting point is 00:37:57 a Nazi himself Yeah, he has the instinct for sure. Yes, he has the correct, yes, he has those instincts. Yeah, yeah. Were you ever bullied as a kid? I, yes. You were? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Uh-huh. And what was that like for you? It was horrible. It was a woman. She was smart. Right. Reading their books. With the good grades.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Uh-huh. You know, picking on a little me. in the school yard and we knew some attorneys and we litigated and we broke her family and took a lot money from her family
Starting point is 00:38:40 and yes and did you learn anything from that experience about empathy about the idea that that sometimes you have to stick up for people that maybe don't have all the power that being using your strength to help people that need it rather than dominating was there any less than a certain amount of
Starting point is 00:38:57 resources in this world. There are seven billion people and only a few us are going to make it. So my advice is get on a winning team. No way are we going to tax? My friends,
Starting point is 00:39:12 you leave them alone, they're the billionaires. They need their billions to trickle down. And so don't tax them. I know everyone so tax them 40%. I know that's too much. Hey, Musk just became a trillionaire. He did. Is it happened finally?
Starting point is 00:39:28 It finally happened. So we're very happy for him. We think it depends on how our leader wakes up in the morning, how he decides, how he's feeling. That's the foreign policy and domestic policy. Whatever he's thinking, we follow, follow, follow, follow him to the death. Well, Miguel Gonzalez has been really interesting talking you. Thank you so much for your time.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Appreciate your willingness to have this kind of dialogue. And good luck in your marriage. Thank you everyone for continuing to debate us and talk and discuss things while we do what we like. So let's continue the dialogues. Thank you. All right. Miguel Gonzalez, Latinos for Trump. Thank you so much.
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Starting point is 00:42:04 It's Oscar Nunez and Alex Borstein. Hi, thank you so much. Come on in. Thank you so much for being here. Hi, hi. You come in, you please go. I want you to come up. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Sorry, you come in there. Oscar, welcome. No nice to see you. Thank you. I want to hear about that vagina thing again. You can keep that note. Okay. Look, I don't want to do too much, you know, behind the music.
Starting point is 00:42:35 But before the show, Austin was like, I need a piece of paper. I got to write something down. I have a note. Did you see what I wrote that? Yeah, I do, yeah. That's a pro. Alex, so nice to meet you. It's nice to be met.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Can I perch like this? You can perch however you want. Look how he's sitting. Are we perching? there we are that's great that's good stuff no wrong way to sit
Starting point is 00:43:04 no wrong way to sit you're good I'm good Alex hi hi you're doing a stand-up tour it's called Alex Borstein is thirsty
Starting point is 00:43:16 what do you mean interesting you should you should ask out I actually did the show twice here at Dynasty Typewriter. Yes. I, LA premiered it here at this very venue. You know, the kids these days use that term
Starting point is 00:43:35 to mean a few things. Are you familiar with the internet? Yeah. Yeah, I love it. So apparently there's something called a thirst trap. You post something in hopes that you lure an unwilling or a willing participant into your trap of moisture.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yes? Is this new to you? No, no, I'm learning. So I'm playing with that a little bit, and I'm also just playing with really the concept of dehydration. You know, I can honestly say that I don't believe in my whole life I ever posted a thirst trap because on some level, I've always understood that I was going to have to win somebody over with words, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:19 That that was going to be my best, that the way to generate, it would have to be a conversation, you know? That would be where the trap would be laid. I just agree. I think this perch thing is a bit of a thirst trap. Okay, thank you for saying that. I think this is it. You have the pillow under your rump, too.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. I don't think you have enough notes. It's like a sex pillow. Well, what's funny is you went to sex. I went to yoga because my hips are tight. Oscar. Yes, sir. The paper just got renewed for a second season.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah, yes, it did. Now, it's about a local newspaper. Yes. And was it because they don't exist anymore that it was exciting to explore? Was it, our kids going to understand what the show was about when they watch it in two to three years?
Starting point is 00:45:15 I don't know. Greg Daniels loves journalism. He's a good man, he's smart man. And, like, months ago, he's like, we're having lunch. It doesn't matter where Bel Air, Beverly Hills, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And he's like, Oscar, I'm thinking of doing a show about a paper. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Do you mind reprising your character if we bring Oscar back? And I'm like, no, I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't. Anyone else says something like that. It just goes away. It's just a thought. But being Greg Daniels, he makes it happen.
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's incredible. So slowly but surely, we keep meeting and every time it would be fleshed out more and more until finally he's like, we had lunch. He's like, come eat the writers. We haven't. I'm like, oh, oh, shit. And then we're walking there. And I didn't tell you this, although I mentioned his name.
Starting point is 00:46:10 He said, Oscar, we started casting. Do you know who Alex Edelman is? I'm like, the guy who did Just for Us, which I just, it's like, yeah, him. We cast him in the show. And I'm like, oh, shit. And I'm like, all right, here we go. And that was the beginning of it. And now it's done.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And now it's renewed for, I mean, it's crazy. I said no when he came to me. Pursuing other things. You're pursuing other things. Yeah, I was busy being thirsty. He wasn't thirsty enough. Hey, your character in Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, she gay? Huh.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Interesting. She gay. She gay. She gay. Was she gay person? Hey, was she gay? Hey, you didn't watch the full, you didn't watch the full, you didn't watch the, Was she gay? You didn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, I did. She partook of some vagina. She ultimately got some vagina? She partook of some, yeah. Oh, that's a relief. She did, yeah. I'm glad. It's interesting, actually, that people had such a reaction to me, the actress,
Starting point is 00:47:15 or the show, not kind of outing her or not talking about it. And it was so interesting that people were, so angry and felt ownership over this character's sexuality when in reality I think the way Amy handled it and the way Susie handles it, it was very it made sense in 1950s.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It made sense of how you would treat your sexuality and it's no one's business and it's not what she put in her first step forward but I find it so interesting that it really riled people. Yeah people really I just remember at the time like when it was he were like she's gay. Yeah. Yeah. She's wearing that hat.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. She's very terse. Yeah. There's a coach. It seems gay. People were, people were very, very up in arms about it. Yeah, people get up in arms about all kinds of stuff. Like what?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Oh my God, all kinds of stuff. It's crazy out there. It's an interesting time to be alive, don't you find? I think so. I'll let you know if I had a heartbeat ever again. John, are you surprised that they're moving so quickly and so boldly? Are you surprised at that at the speed of the stuff that's happening? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So I, look, Trump is kind of feral. He has talents, but he's instinctive. Every president in their second term learns from their version of a mistake every president makes in their first term. And that mistake is letting the job push them as opposed to them determining what the job is. They get their hands. You have anyone in any job, right? You figure out what the job is. You get better at understanding how to do it and do it the way you want to do it. You don't get ruled by the job. You rule the job. But because there was this four-year into Regnum, there are all kinds of people
Starting point is 00:49:06 out there planning and plotting and thinking about how to direct Trump's instincts and to use Trump as a vessel for their purposes. That's what Project 2025 is. That's where this immigration crackdown comes from. And so part of what has made it surprising is Trump remains Trump. But there were a lot of people who thought very hard about how to move quickly to use what limited time they had and to use him to achieve their ends. And that relentlessness and that ability for Trump to cast about and then have a team behind him that follows through. Right. Like in the first term, if Trump spouted off about saying a woman in Colorado, should be freed for her part in the election denial scheme and that she's being tortured
Starting point is 00:49:52 or if she's not freed, there'll be consequences. You could usually write that kind of thing off as him using bluster and forgetting about it. But now there are people writing these things down, thinking about what the next step is, thinking about how to use that, right? And so, like, that has been surprising, the kind of comprehensiveness of it and the relentlessness of it. I think they just determined, too, you know, they want to. wanted to be the Jillian Michaels.
Starting point is 00:50:19 They wanted to be the hardcore trainers that don't let you fucking breathe. There's not a moment to breathe. There's no second to even think about what the last... What the last punch was or what the abuse was. It's just being obliterated in the ring.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And that's kind of what I think. I think they just became this. And we're being trained to not stop and not breathe. Yeah. It's a bummer for sure. And speaking of being unable to keep up, it's time for a segment we call, News It or Lose It. Here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:50:56 We're going to talk about, we're going to quiz you both about the news. Look at us. There we are. In our News It or Lose it. It's going to be uplifting. This is a local news edition that we're going to cover a bunch of local stories
Starting point is 00:51:07 from across the country. After name checking Chicago and Baltimore for cities he planned to target for National Guard deployments. Trump shouted out what red state city has a potential location for a federal crackdown. I'll give you a hint. I guarantee... Nope.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Guarantee. A guarantee it. New Orleans? You got it. Next question. Alex, this one will be for you. I'm not even sure how the game works. Your accents gave me the clue.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah, it was really good. It was really good. It was really good. Didn't you catch it? Didn't you catch that I was speaking? as if, I guarantee. Oh, that was an accent. Yes, that's a New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Okay. Ocasion, the occasion. Okay. I misunderstood. I thought you were having a stroke. I apologize. Oh. No, no, I really... It was like that total recall moment
Starting point is 00:52:02 where the robot just melted down. Two weeks. Two weeks. That was my plan to do the worst voices in front of Alex Borestein. On Tuesday, while the nation waited breathlessly to see if Donald Trump had kicked the bucket, his administration announced that he had kicked the U.S. Space Command
Starting point is 00:52:18 from Colorado Springs, Colorado to what southern state, Alex? Oh, I know this. Starts with a? Sweet home. Alabama. That's right. Colorado lawmakers immediately objected,
Starting point is 00:52:35 which will require three to four years of building and billions to create facilities equal to those that already exist in Colorado Springs. Two Colorado senators and eight House members, members objected, saying, bottom line, moving space command headquarters, weakens our national security. I mean, of course, what else are they going to say? Bama.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Bama. Bama. Yeah, it's fun to say that, isn't it? Roll-tide. Bama. Nevada endured its second week grappling with a widespread calamity. Was it, A, a statewide ransomware attack, B, dust storms brought on by the state's cataclysmic drought conditions, or C. Brownouts caused by the Las Vegas fear's massive electrical needs. Wait. I wasn't listening. Go back to the beginning? The answer is statewide.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Ransomware attack. He said Nevada. Oh, I missed the whole thing. Alex, which state banned the sale of lab-grown meat in stores and restaurants? I'll give you a hint. I guarantee it's not that place.
Starting point is 00:53:31 But it's nearby. Which? That was the hint that it's close to Norlands? Give it your best, y'all. Give it your best guess. I guarantee it's... It's a state that's very meat-meat-friendly. Is it Texas?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yes. It is. So they banned there's no chemical... Well, cultivated meat, I think they'd like to call it. But I still don't think they've landed on the right name for the lab-grown meat, which I'm a fan of. I'm a favor of it because I believe in a future where they print T-Bone steaks like the size of pizza boxes. It was actually my nickname in college was cultivated meat. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It's a long nickname. But accurate. It's beautiful. So weird, a night of some of coincidences. It's a night of coincidence. It's a connection. Yeah. And connection.
Starting point is 00:54:21 By the way, you can keep that note. Thank you. Here in California, the golden state with red prices to match, Democrats are at odds over Senate Bill 79, which would override local zoning laws to allow for more housing, specifically multifamily buildings, up to seven stories near what?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Starbucks? Indirectly yes Schools I It is near Is it A municipal buildings Like libraries and post offices B major transit stops
Starting point is 00:54:55 Or C The Bridge the Red Hot Chili Peppers S sang about in that song Is that bridge a landmark now Look there they are There they are Give it away Give it away now
Starting point is 00:55:08 They were so cool They were so cool Are they still with us? Yeah, okay. It's near major transit stops is the answer. And just for everybody listening, there's currently a debate in the state house around whether or not to pass SB 79.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It is a bill that it take a modest step towards allowing construction of seven-story buildings near transit stops. Now, there's been some kind of suggestion that that would mean every bus stop. It's not every bus stop. It's towards, you know, it's to basically major transit stops to allow a construction of apartments where people want to live.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It would help relieve traffic. It would help lower rents. What is the downside? What is this a thing? The downside. Well, that's, it's great. So I interviewed a city council member about why she opposes it. And they want local control.
Starting point is 00:56:00 In practice, what that means is slowing down development and seeing themselves as a compromise agent between yimbis and nimbis. But what she described in our conversation was reducing the size of an apartment building. from six stories to three stories, but that's the story that's been playing out all across California. L.A. as part of a state mandate, agreed to build 456,000 units of housing in 10 years. They are only on track to build a third of that. And even that number, 456,000 is a bare minimum, which we are failing to hit. So L.A. is the city council members that voted against her, are like, we can do it ourselves, we can do it ourselves. They haven't. They can't. They won't.
Starting point is 00:56:37 This is a modest step to start relieving the pressure on housing. in California that is driving people to Texas, that it's keeping people from being able to move here, that is hurting our ability to have a film and television industry in this state. It is like an urgent situation. The question is how much this will be watered down because right now, NIMBYs are louder than the people that want this to go through. People that have owned homes for 40 years, people that are against this bill, they are loud, they are at the city council meetings, they're calling their legislators, the renters,
Starting point is 00:57:06 and by the way, the people that don't live here yet, right? They're not making calls. They don't feel as connected to this. debate and it's a huge problem so if you're hearing this and you live in california go to vote save america.com because by between now when i'm saying this and when it comes out i'll make sure there's something there go to vote save america.com slash let's pick something it's with go to vote save america.com slash yimbi and there'll be something there to show you how to find your legislator and call them. We really do need
Starting point is 00:57:42 people to put pressure on because whether or not this thing passes and if it passes how watered down it is, will be determined in the next few days. So please, if you can, give them a call. It is important. There is no good argument against it, honestly. It's about local control. It's about the character of neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:57:58 But the idea that California should stay the same is not what the state's about. It's also not a way to be welcoming. We all like, oh, you know, we want to be welcoming to immigrants, but we're going to price them out of our state forever. Like, we want to be a
Starting point is 00:58:14 place that helps the unhoused, but we're going to make it impossible for people to afford to live here. Like, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. John, do you think, yes. Do you think that if there's
Starting point is 00:58:32 a chance this man is going to lose, that he will allow elections to go on, or is he going to call out the, like, declare Marshall? law because this guy who is a documented liar takes over the press, throws gay people and intellectuals in jail and says, I'm going to clean up corruption, oh, wait, I'm in power now, we're going to postpone elections until we have elections. I'm talking about Fidel Castro.
Starting point is 00:59:03 That's what he did. And I'm like, oh, now he had it easier because it's 11 million people in a little island. And it's difficult because we're 350 million people in a big space. So it's harder to orchestrate something like that. But I can kind of see this guy just saying, well, everything's too crazy. I'm going to declare martial law. What we're going to do?
Starting point is 00:59:22 We're going to vote. We're going to get the election done later. Let's all relax. We're just going to wait six months. We're going to wait a year. And then we're like, what the fuck? I get that fear. I'm not saying it's illegitimate.
Starting point is 00:59:34 And I don't think there's any value in telling people that things can't be, as bad as you're predicting, one problem of dealing with fascists is your fears feel too early and then they feel too late. That's part of the threat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, I also think sometimes in our, it's easier to imagine how bad it can get. It's also sometimes in the noise and in the endless turn, hard to remember that we have some strengths and some things going for us, one of which is, there's no, this is not, this is America and it's not commanded control. And we got, but we got tens of thousands of municipalities that run their own elections.
Starting point is 01:00:09 We have a very distributed power structure. We have governors. We have states. It is a complicated and unmanageable country. That is a strength. I like there's more communication between the Blue State governors. I like that. I wish they would have started earlier.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Well, that's, yeah. So that's, let's do one last question. What state are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey allegedly planning to get married in? Oh. Is Hawaii still a state? Are they still with us? What state?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Hawaii? It's still for sure. Sure is still a state. Where they're going to get married or where they want to live? Where they want to get married. Apparently, their signature food, the signature food of the state is something called coffee milk. Coffee milk. Coffee milk?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Coffee milk. They're also famous for the third clam chowder. There's a third clam chowder and it's theirs. That's a good hint. I don't know what, but I love that hint. There's a third chowder, Alex. Hey, me, me, oh, what's that third? Meat.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It goes good with cultivated meat, though, I bet. I have no idea what the state is. It's a, it's more of a kind of a golden broth. It's Rhode Island. It's Rhode Island style clam chowder. Rhode Island? What would bring them to Rhode Island? It is, it really is.
Starting point is 01:01:20 All right, that's a beautiful state. I think she has a house there. That's a beautiful state. So there's something, that's something beautiful about her. Everyone's shocked. Listen to the murmur. Rhode Island. What's your favorite chowder?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Who wants chowder? Um, my favorite chowder is the clam is the New England clam chowder. That's the white, creamy. It's interesting that you played a Rhode Island character for so many years, but I don't believe in any episode I've seen, Rhode Island style clam chowder has come up. There is. It's my favorite line of all time of Lois is in an episode, um, where the, the gentleman characters and the dog and the baby are all having an Ipecac competition.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I remember this. Drinking as much Ipecac as I can, seeing who throws up first and, they vomit profusely. It does not end. It goes around and around and around. It's one of the funniest scenes. And then four minutes into it, Lois comes through the door holding a bowl
Starting point is 01:02:18 and says, who wants chowder? But what style of chowder? The fact that Rhode Island has its own does not, is sort of isn't part of the comedy of that scene. I had never heard that. You're sure it's not just Taylor's country? Because she probably has her own country now, right?
Starting point is 01:02:36 It's not just her country's chowder, her state chowder. Yeah, you're probably right. You're not sure. I just want to, look. We wish them the best. And we love that. We love them. We want them to be happy.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I watched that interview that they did. And I was like, okay. I always want, like, people who grew up, like, big and muscular. and talented at sports and a woman who's like tall and leggy with a beautiful voice like, I just want them to find something good. They got together. Life was so hard for them. I just feel so happy that it's finally turning for them.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I think if you're a fly on the wall and you're listening to their conversation between them, you'd probably fall asleep pretty quickly. I don't know. I do adore them. I'm into it. No harm, no foul. I stand that. No harm, no foul.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They'll harm no foul. Let them be happy. I'm charmed by them. I'm charmed by them. I do wonder what it would have been like to live in either one of those bodies for even a few days. Right? You know? Imagine walking around operating those things like in men in black.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yeah. Vincent Dinoffrio. Like a meat puppet. Yeah, like a meat puppet. Just being like burp, burp, burp, burp, burp. You know what? In fairness to them, they're both really good at what they do. Oh, no, I'm a fan.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, yeah, you weren't kidding. No, I'm a, I'm a fan. Like, I think he's hot and she's amazing, and I'm into it. Yeah. When we come back, it's time for The Egg of Truth. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 01:07:23 the egg of truth. I don't remember posing for that. Hey, was that sound effect what you guys were recording in the office? Ha! I hold in my hands the egg of truth. Inside we've assembled a delightful buffet of fun dinner party conversation starters and one real serious interview question that will cut you to your very core. You must answer this devastating question.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Just so you know, we discussed using multiple devastating questions, but Sarah Lazarus, our writer, was adamant that it had to be, one and we must go about this honestly so if we don't pull the devastating one then I'm sorry I guess we'll have to do this again we'll also take turns drawing questions I'm going to go first because it is my show
Starting point is 01:08:09 good luck thanks and I don't know I just this is real like I don't know what the questions are I don't know what the devastating one what the hard question is I don't know anything is it in a different language what's so devastating I have no idea I really don't know and honestly I was chilled to the core by the way they described it
Starting point is 01:08:24 if you only had 24 hours to live, would you come on this show again? Only if cultivated meat is my co-guessed person. I think you can be honest, you wouldn't be here. Okay, I'll be honest, because that was a lie. Am I sleeping for any of those 24 hours? That's a great question. It'd be a weird thing to do.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It would be hard to fall asleep, I think. You'd be very hard. You'd be very hard. You know, TikTok. So maybe I'd do this instead of sleeping. Okay. Yeah. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Yeah. Think? There's free candy backstage. I don't see why not. I mean, enjoy what you're doing. It's just 24 hours. There's plenty of time. This isn't all the 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Just a little bit of that time. And by the way, I live every day like I only have 20, hours. And I suggest you do the same. No one knows if you have tomorrow. I think I'd try fentanyl. Alex, it's your turn for the egg of truth.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Go Alex. Go Alex. Go Alex. Go Alex. And I read it allowed. Devastating question. That wasn't the devastating question? I don't think so. Oh, wow. Hmm What's the one thing on your bucket list
Starting point is 01:09:57 That you're pretty sure You're not going to get around to Oh, interesting Interesting Maybe that three-way with Travis and Taylor Is there more of a chance That's going to happen now that they're married Or less of a chance
Starting point is 01:10:17 You know what? Give them three years. They'll need some cultivated meat by then. They enjoy cultivated meat so much. The audience. You'll be like this stunningly beautiful, talented, blonde woman, enough already.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I want something meatier. And cultivated. I want meat, not farm-raised. I want meat that was grown scientifically. Here we go. what's the worst advice you've ever received oh what is the worst advice was it oh my gosh do the love it or leave it podcast i can't i mean it might not be good advice but it'd be shocking to be the worst advice you've ever received oh it's not the worst advice um i gee i don't know
Starting point is 01:11:15 i went i took dental technology like a course and i I graduated, it was a two-year school, and I worked for like a year, and I left, I got bored. It was, but I enjoyed the time, but I don't know what I got out of it. Like to learn how to do x-rays and things like that? No, make teeth, make bridges. Oh. Stuff like that. Yeah, I was a dental technologist, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I was told throughout most of my childhood and into my early adulthood that given that I was quite smart and annoying, I should go to law school. Like, that was told to me over, it was really drilled into. me by a lot of people over and over again that I was just meant to go to law school. And I was fully enrolled in the University of Chicago Law School, enrolled to the point where someone I had met was like, are you moving in? And they were waiting for me to send a picture of my face for the student Facebook. Like, I was going.
Starting point is 01:12:08 And then I just ghosted the whole thing. Just didn't do it. So do you think that you're saying the advice to go to law school was the worst advice? That was bad advice. It wasn't right. It wasn't right. And I'm really glad I didn't go. And since then, like, I've, like, like, like, the people that don't tell you to go to law school are lawyers.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And because they'll say, do you want to be a lawyer? And if you don't say, yes, it's a bad sign. Because it's the only, it's a rare profession where that, that's not a question that comes up in the process. And so they're like, well, I was thinking about going to law school. Do you want to be a lawyer? I'm not sure. Then don't go. Yeah. A lot of people become lawyers and then do something else.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah, that's stupid. Alex, did you get any bad advice in your life? I mean, I had people that were kind of naysayers, you know, dream shitters. You know, don't try to perform. Don't, you know, have something to fall back on. You know, and I was told I was, I had this experience. This is such a weird story. I was auditioning for something that was called Kids of the Century.
Starting point is 01:13:22 This is so embarrassing here in L.A. And it was, I don't know if I was like 17 or something. And you had to go from room to room and you did a little monologue. You were going to do something in the summer. We were going to do like plays or go travel and do things. And you do a monologue. You do dance and then you sing. And I was in these red plastic dance pants.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Do you remember those? They like, well, my thighs rubbed together. So they made a considerable. amount of noise and I was up there I did my dancing I did my singing and when I got up to the piano they had my sheet with notes about me on it and I got real close right before I had to I did the scales and then I was going to sing a solo and I saw an asterisk and I saw notes and I was like I'm amazing I want to read this and I got real close and it said uh tone deaf has a weight problem and that was that was you know maybe the best advice because i was like oh yeah go fuck
Starting point is 01:14:21 yourself watch this you know but yeah there is just kind of a constant don't don't quit your day job kind of advice you know oh that horrible piece of paper yeah and i'm not tone deaf all right let's do another one What's something you wish your grandparents had said to you before they died? Well, my grand, we came from Cuba. My grandmother wanted to go to be a doctor. And because of the revolution, we had to come to here. And just like about 15 years ago here in the United States, she got into med school.
Starting point is 01:15:10 as a cadaver but she got in that was I started laughing your face was so fucking serious I stopped the laugh
Starting point is 01:15:24 I was like I have to say the numbers like how is this possible dead I wish that was my joke it's someone else's but it's such a good joke I love it so Alex do you have something you wish your grandparents would have told you I just feel like they
Starting point is 01:15:38 could have warned me that I was tone deaf and had a weight problem. No, no, no. They actually did tell me that. Often. No. I mean, honestly, to be a little bit sappy, I was very fortunate, and I had amazing grandparents who imparted incredible drops of wisdom to me and told me exactly what I needed to hear.
Starting point is 01:16:05 That's beautiful. My grandmother, I've talked about it in an Emmy speech. She was going to be shot into the Danube River in Budapest, and she stepped out of line. And that's the only reason I am here. And she consistently stepped out of line her whole life and told me to. And she lied when it was convenient and worked to her favor. And she was my hero.
Starting point is 01:16:32 So she told me everything I needed to hear. That was a great speech. I remember that. Yeah. And I think it's smart that they finally closed that ride at the Danube. because a lot of people were getting hurt on that thing. I know.
Starting point is 01:16:43 It's not safe. I know. And that's our show. Wow. It's fun to end it abruptly. Why not? Why not? This was so much fun.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Thank you to Oscar Nunez and Alex Borsene. We'll see you next week at Dynasty Typewriter. Everybody, check out Alex Borseson on tour. Everybody watched the paper. We'll see you. next week. There are 423 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend.
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