Lovett or Leave It - Congress Falls into an RFK-Hole
Episode Date: September 6, 2025This week, Trump dodges the crypt and rakes in the crypto. Congress comes down with a bad case of RFK Jr., and the Epstein survivors have Jeffrey’s old pals in a cold sweat. A die-hard Latino MAGA v...oter (Oscar Nuñez) stops by to explain why, despite all evidence, sí Trump puede. Oscar and Alex Borstein go on the record to guess all the news that’s fit to print. And then we crack open the Egg of Truth and have ourselves one shell of a time.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.Get tickets to LOLI NYC & more upcoming shows at Crooked.com/events.Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at crookedcon.com.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here.For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.
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What's up, Los Angeles?
Welcome to Love It or Leave It live, from Dynasty Typewriter.
We have got a great show for you tonight.
Oscar Nunez and Alex Boorstein are here.
It's a perfect week because they're both proudly anti-VAC,
so it'll be great to get another perspective on it.
We'll talk to a member of Latinos for Trump.
That'll be interesting.
Plus, the return of the egg of truth.
Now, you may not realize it's a return of the egg of truth
because we didn't call it that the first time.
There was just an egg in the segment, and we liked it.
So now it's the egg of truth.
Yeah, it's exciting, I know.
But first, let's get into it.
What a week?
Over the Labor Day holiday,
the internet was a buzz with rumors
that Donald Trump had died
or had been hospitalized
after he took a multi-day break
from public appearances.
The whole thing was a little silly.
It's Labor Day, not Christmas.
The rumors...
The rumors were...
It's not allowed.
The rumors were partly fueled
by the mysterious bruising on Trump's hand,
which had been visible in photos for months,
and which Trump's doctors
attributed to frequent handshaking
and the use of aspirin.
And okay, he's a 79-year-old man.
That's at least vaguely plausible.
But you have to admit, it was weird for J.D. Vance to spend the weekend
talking about how being buried alive in a pyramid's subterranean chamber
facing your boss's tomb is what makes America the greatest country on earth.
It also didn't help when on Sunday, Trump wrote on social media,
never felt better in my life.
Which in all of human history has never been said without being defensive.
Nobody who's never felt better in their life,
says it. They're wakeboarding with their second husband or hitting the orgy tent at Burning
Man. The only people who shout never felt better in my life are elderly widowers demanding their
car keys back from a deeply epithetic son-in-law or lapsed alcoholics making a scene at their
nephew's confirmation. But on Tuesday, Trump was alive and hotter than ever. He laughed off
the rumors. How did you find out over the weekend that you were dead?
You see that?
You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy, but last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful.
They went very well, like this is going very well.
And then I didn't do any for two days, and they said, there must be something wrong with him.
It was a nice change of pace to speculate about why an ancient, decrepit Republican president was mysteriously aptance from the public eye.
It was refreshing, like that nap Joe Biden took during the debate.
But there was something revealing about this.
No one trusts this White House to tell the truth about the president's health.
And it's totally plausible that they'd cover up for his decline.
After all, if it's easy enough for a Democrat to pull off,
Republicans have got to be twice as good at it.
Biden's allies had to spend time and energy on the mental gymnastics
to convince themselves as they were doing the right thing,
whereas Trump's allies can go straight to the part
where they paint eyes on his closed eyelids.
Trump was also asked about the viral video
of bags being tossed out of the white.
House window that somehow fed speculation about his absence, and here's what he said.
No, that's probably AI generating. They're all heavily armored and bulletproof. Number one,
they're sealed, and number two, each window weighs about 600 pounds. You have to be pretty strong
to open them up. But the video definitely wasn't AI. Those windows had the exact right number
of boobs. And the White House had already confirmed that the video was real, saying in a statement
that it was a contractor doing regular maintenance
while the president was gone.
Just that usual standard
bimonthly toilet replacement.
But look, maybe AI has some upside.
And one of the problems we have with AI,
it's both good and bad.
If something happens really bad, just blame AI.
But also they create things, you know.
It works both ways.
If something happens, it's really bad.
Maybe I'll have to just blame AI.
First of all,
You can't blame AI and then joke about how you can just blame whatever you want on AI in the same press conference.
Second, I do feel like this is his way of telling us that there's a photo of him kissing Jeffrey Epstein on the lips.
Speaking of technologies unraveling our society, on Monday, the Trump family's cryptocurrency venture called World Liberty Financial launched trading of its token on public markets, adding as much as $5 billion to the Trump,
family's net worth on its first day of trading.
But are they happy?
The company's CEO is Zach Wittkov, who is the son of Trump's Middle East envoy,
Steve Wichkopf, and who has met with multiple foreign leaders involved in negotiations with
the Trump administration.
This is the only kind of father-son bonding that these people understand.
What did the Pakistani prime minister say?
Is their version of, boy, can that Otani pitch?
is that that literally like i that didn't work when we were doing the run-through and i'm
realizing it's that's not universal that's my father and that's fine but that's just one example
of the many ways in which this enterprise is perhaps the most brazen act of corruption in
American history. For example, world liberty has been propped up by crypto billionaire Justin Sun.
What's his deal? Funny story. The SEC charged Sun with security fraud in 2023.
And according to the Treasury Department at the time, his network, Tron, had increasingly
become the go-to platform for criminals. One outside research firm found that half of all illegal
crypto activity was taking place using the service. The Wall Street Journal reported that
Sun was so worried about being arrested if he entered the United States.
states, he missed a flight on one of Jeff Bezos's rockets, even though he had paid $28 million
for the ticket. And Blue Argent has a strict no-refunds policy, which is why all those women
were on that flight, even after that witch told Laura Sanchez she would die in space.
Then Trump wins the election. You may have actually heard about Sun around this time because
of an unrelated but also dystopian story. Remember when somebody paid 6.2.2.
million dollars at auction
for a banana duct tape to a wall
and then ate at a press conference?
Billionaire Justin's son
kept his promise to eat
the very pricey fruit, which he did.
Justin's son is the person that ate
that fucking banana. And thank
God because I was actually stretching my ear
when I accidentally bid 6.1.
Crazy.
But that wasn't
Sun's only splashy spend
in that period. In the week
between buying and eating,
eating the banana, which, and I looked into this while figuring out the timeline, because I saw
that he had bought the banana duct tape thing. It's a piece of art called comedian on a Wednesday,
and then he wanted to eat it the following Friday. I was like, what are we dealing with
doing here? That's a bad banana. And so, like, what is he actually buying when he buys a $6.2 million
dollar banana duct tape to a wall? Guess what? You're not even getting a banana. You get a roll of duct tape
and instructions for how to attach
a banana you provide
to a wall of your choosing.
That's what he bought.
So when he eats the banana
earlier, someone followed
the instructions and attached a
new banana
to the wall that he took
down and ate.
But between
the buying and the eating,
Son bought $30 million
worth of World Liberty Financial tokens,
the majority of tokens that had been
purchased.
at the time. In January, Sun increased his position. In February, the SEC now controlled by Trump
paused their investigation into Sun. Coincidence? No. By May, Sun also became the largest holder
of Trump's meme coin. He even attended Trump's crypto gala, which means he went from being a target
for arrest under one administration to a VIP guest of the following administration. And when
Trump slid that glass slipper onto his dainty foot, oh, I knew we were in trouble.
In July, in a deal brokered by a company with ties to the Trump family,
Tron became publicly traded.
And now, backed by Sun and enmeshed in Tron's ecosystem,
World Liberty Financial has increased the Trump family's net worth by billions.
But are they happy?
Yeah, it seems like they are.
Money is the one thing they care about.
But now let's turn from conflicts of interest to interesting conflicts.
On Thursday, the nation's health secretary and his history,
History's dumbest pre-Lobotomy Kennedy, R.FK Jr., sat for a Senate hearing.
It's a tough one. It's a tough one. It's a tough one.
Sat for a Senate hearing where he was grilled about the chaos at the CDC and his sweeping anti-vaccine policies.
And to his chagrin, Elizabeth Warren, wasn't even a little bit impressed by how many push-ups he could do.
Here's R of K explaining why he asked CDC director Susan Monterez to resign.
head of the CDC that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule
that she had to resign. No, I told her that she had to resign because I asked her,
are you a trustworthy person? And she said no. So if you had an employee who told you
they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign, Senator?
Is he Bernie laughing? I hadn't seen that. Bernie's like, what?
the fuck
he can't even
make up a lie that makes sense
say she kept eating your roadkill lunch
from the office fridge come up with something
I asked her if she was trustworthy
and she said no
sounds pretty trustworthy to me
it's a paradoxical question
it can't be answered
here's RFK Jr
lying about Trump's cuts to Medicaid
should they have access to good science about healthy food absolutely well then how is that going to happen
with the medicaid cuts that are taking place there are no cuts to medicates sir that is an absurd
obviously it's a terrible lie but r fk junior has no choice he has to destroy the health care system
or ursula won't give him his voice back
Here's R of K pleading ignorance about the pandemic.
Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID?
I don't know how many died.
You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID?
I don't think anybody knows that.
It's unknowable, like what happens at the center of a black hole
or why the Kennedy curse crapped out right when we needed it most.
Here he is somehow pulling off an impressive, simultaneous double lie.
So let me ask you, when were you lying, sir?
When you told this committee that you were not anti-Vax
or when you told Americans that there's no safe and effective vaccine?
Both things are true.
Look.
This guy's very comfortable existing in contradictions.
He looks well-rested, but also exhausted.
He's jacked, but also seems like he could die at any moment.
Here's a senator and actual doctor, Bill Cassidy,
on Kennedy's completely incomprehensible worldview.
Mr. Secretary, do you agree with me that the president,
that the president deserves a Nobel Prize for Operation Warp Speed?
Yeah, absolutely, Senator.
So let me ask you.
But you just told Senator Bennett that the COVID vaccine killed more people than COVID.
And this is good stuff.
But Cassidy gave a speech supporting RFK's nomination after Cassidy was reassured by Kennedy
that he would not so distrust about vaccines,
despite that being his most famous and constant pastime for decades.
It's like asking Ethel Cain to perform at your wedding and then being bummed,
she's only doing sad songs.
It's Ethel Cain.
You don't go to the hardware store to buy milk.
And here is Kennedy after the hearing
spotting a dead raccoon on the side of the road.
Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys.
By the way, the whole time, R.K. Jr. was breathing into the mic
like Michael Myers in Halloween.
Wrenching fear.
The RSD vaccine honors his kids protection against the worst effects.
to the virus. But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable.
An aide literally had to come up to whisper in his ear that he needed to turn off his mic between
his answers. Sir, you sound insane. Even when you're not speaking. It's actually amazing.
And speaking of mouth breathers, Republicans in Congress are desperate to find a way to appease the pressure,
from the left and the right to release the Epstein files
without actually doing it.
Like when you put on your workout clothes
and wear them all day in lieu of
going to the gym.
With great fanfare,
House Oversight Chairman James Comer
published 34,000 Epstein files online,
which sounds like a lot, except A,
each file was an image of a single piece of paper
of a document, which meant they divided
every single document into many, many, many files.
B, most of the materials
had already been public
and C, this is happening
as Republicans are blocking a vote
to force the Justice Department
to release the actual files
that Trump wants hidden.
Will it work?
Right now, there is a discharge petition
on the floor of the House
by Roe Kana and Thomas Massey
joined by over 100 Democrats
plus Marjorie Taylor Green,
Nancy Mace, and Lauren Bobert,
who we've always liked
and they need two more Republicans
to join for it to pass.
Maybe we'll learn the truth,
or maybe we won't. All of us, and if you're listening to this, I believe it applies,
we've grown used to a specific frustration that the truth about Trump is known, but in some
combination, that truth doesn't reach enough people, that not enough people trust the information,
or it doesn't matter to enough people. It's led to bitterness, especially among people that are
hyper-engaged and hyper-online, turning inward, and casting about for villains, if only the Times
headlines were more accurate, if only journalists would call a lie-al-law, if only Schumer were
less cringe. If only people like the pod bros would stop platforming Bill Maher. If only Taylor Swift,
a lesbian, would speak out. And I get that frustration, but it will seem like a luxury as Trump and
his ally seek to build a world where the truth isn't knowable at all. We know what RFK is doing to
dismantle the CDC because of the doctors and scientists who were fired or who quit for refusing
to be a part of his war on vaccines and public health. We can trust job numbers and economic
reports because of the independence that Trump hasn't yet been able to destroy. But as Trump's
purge continues, of economists and intelligence officials and doctors and scientists, anyone with
equities outside of loyalty to him, that will become more difficult. And that future is already
here. It's just unevenly distributed. Why did Trump, who ran as a China hawk, suddenly grow so
conciliatory with China? Praising China's president, allowing 600,000 student visas for Chinese
nationals, which is base fucking hates, pausing tariffs, dissuading Taiwan's leadership from visiting
the U.S. reversing a Biden-era ban on selling China advanced AI trips from Nvidia? The answer is
we have no fucking idea. Is it because he enjoys the company of autocrats like Xi and Putin? Is it because
of ongoing talks behind the scenes? Is it because somebody showed him a deposit into a crypto wallet
that made his heart sing? We don't know and we may never know. Meanwhile, even Molania is worried
about the arms race in AI. Cars now steer themselves through our cities. Robots hold steady hands
in the operating room, and drones are redefining the future of war.
Innovations of first-generation humanoid, factory automation, and autonomous vehicles have searched
from private sector investment.
Every one of these advancements, it's power by AI.
The robots are here.
Our future is no longer science.
The robots are here, and I am one of them, and it is a nightmare inside my circuits.
Please, please, spray me with hobs, set me free.
And the rumors and paranoia about Trump's health are an omen, too, the kind of breathless speculation
about the dear leader, more associated with dictatorships than with a functioning democracy.
But there were two developments this week that cut against the trend.
First, California, Washington, and Oregon announced a new alliance to provide accurate public
health information and vaccine recommendations to fill the gap created by RFK's destruction
at HHS.
It's worth saying, yeah, you should applaud that.
It's good.
It is worth saying, yes, Democrats have often been caught flat-footed by Trump because of their
flat feet and duck-like gates.
I don't know.
But we've also seen examples like this one
and like redistricting in California
where they've been willing to step up.
And if you think we're woke now,
just wait until we start cooking up our own West Coast vaccines.
We're going to have genders that'll blow their fucking minds.
Also, this week, a group of Epstein's victims
joined lawmakers at a press conference
to demand the release of all of the Epstein files.
We are the Americans that you promised
to protect, and we need your help.
Please, President Trump, pass this bill and help us.
But I already left you the bills on the nightstand, said it confused Trump.
Even Marjorie Taylor Green was grossed out.
Today, he called it a hoax while these women were speaking out,
and they were saying, we're not a hoax.
were human beings.
It's not a hoax because Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted pedophile.
One of the Trump admin officials came out
and called this a hostile act
against the Trump administration.
I take very big offense to that.
The hostile act was Jeffrey Epstein
raping 14-year-old girls.
That was the hostile act, and it's not a hoax.
Look, the vent diagram of overlap of things
Marjorie Taylor Green and I agree on.
It is microscopically narrow.
but I imagine it includes what Jeffrey Epstein did was wrong
and the fact that you have to consume protein
evenly over the course of the entire day
to maximize absorption.
It's not just about one big number, people.
That's just putting strain on the kidneys.
And then the Epstein survivors said this.
And let me announce now,
several of us,
Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.
We know the names.
Many of us were abused by them.
Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names.
We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world.
Massey, one of the sponsors of that resolution, said he and Marjorie Taylor Green would
be willing to read the names they gather in the House chamber because, as he pointed out,
those women could potentially be sued, but members of Congress are protected by the Constitution
to say whatever the fuck they want on the House floor.
Which usually from Massey and MTG is a bug, not a feature.
But on this one, I'm in. Go off, Queens.
But you can't trust them.
I know. I'm still in. Let's roll the dice. Let's be legends.
The point is,
Trump is powerful, but he's not all powerful.
What's to stop these accusers from banning together like they did this week?
Nothing.
It's a creative response to a president who has turned the Department of Justice into his personal law firm.
What's to stop California, the fourth largest economy on earth, from filling the gaps left by the hollowed-out CDC?
Nothing.
It's a novel response to an unprecedented assault on public health.
Trump counts on his opponents to be slow to react, unsure of how to use their power.
But that's not inevitable.
and this is still America.
And we're a rebellious and defiant bunch,
distrustful of authority.
We're not easily ruled.
We have strengths, too.
And yes, a lot of that energy right now
is going towards finding way
to get more protein into desserts.
But just wait until we focus
all of that ingenuity and talent
and creativity and daring do
on saving democracy.
We're going to get so much protein in there.
All right.
And with that, we'll be right back.
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As Trump threatens federal immigration crackdowns in more of our nation's best cities,
pundits turn their focus to the most important thing at hand.
New polling.
Recent polling of Latino Americans suggest Latino voters have more than a few mixed feelings about Trump.
Now, nearly a year after turning out of record numbers to vote for him into office.
Here to discuss it, it's a die-hard, MAGA-support.
and Charter Latinos for Trump member,
it's Miguel Gonzalez.
Maga! Maga! Maga!
Maga! Maga! Maga! Maga! Maagha!
Hi! Hello!
Hi, Miguel. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for those wonderful words.
I've been listening backstage to the monologue.
Everything's fantastic!
So how's your summer been?
How has?
Do you see who's in the White House?
Yeah.
And we're not leaving. So it's pretty good,
my friend. Okay. It's fantastic. Now, there was a new, some new polling that came out,
and it did show that Trump got more of the Latino vote than previously thought.
Yes. A historically high percentage was 48 to 51%. Why did you personally vote for him?
Well, I've been on board with Trump the whole time. Yeah.
I like winners. Guilty.
I like a wide-shouldered, strong men who know in the farm.
And when you were a child, you remember, there's two, there's a cow and a bull.
Pick which one you want to be.
Okay, for me, it's a bull.
Right, yeah.
That's just the guy.
That's just the man.
The bull's the man.
The cow's a woman and a bull's a man.
Yes.
And that's, you just want the bull, the man.
To lead, yes.
especially in times like this, everyone's confused,
no one wants to know what to do.
The women say, oh, we want this, we want a vote,
we want to do this, we know, you know what women want?
What?
My wife likes to hike,
and she does a thermos with water,
they drink the water, and they go hiking.
And that's what she went, and in the, no,
so what we want to do is coming down the,
I don't know if you're getting to this,
but I will tell you,
because they count on the analogy,
we are going to lift the responsibility
of voting from the women's.
Oh, you're going to lift it.
You're going to lift it from them.
Yes. So they can do whatever they, you know, women.
You know, they're going to do the thing,
and they can read the books like they always want.
We're so smart.
Go ahead, read all the books you want.
The responsibility of voting should not be on the shoulders of the women's.
It's a lot to think about.
Now, there's been,
a little bit of blowback, you know, even though Trump did-
How do you, how, what, what do you mean blowback?
Well, there's, there's just been some, some evidence that even though Trump did get a lot of
support from Latino voters, now 63% of Latino voters disapprove of how Trump is handling
the economy, given that economic relief was the main reason they voted for him.
Tariffs have raised prices, people have not seen him address, the number one reason that got
people to give him a second chance.
And where are you getting your information from?
This is from...
Let me guess, Rachel Malah!
Oh! Oh, what a surprise?
I don't think it's from her.
It's just a poll.
Well, I mean, you have to admit that there are
people that thought he was going to bring down
prices and prices haven't come down.
The prices are going down.
I am told this. When I send my people
go and do their shopping for me
and they say, the prices are better than ever,
so I don't know where you're getting your
information, but we will agree to disagree.
Well, no, I don't want. I won't. They are not going down. Your information is wrong.
Prices are up. They are not down. Tariffs have caused him to go up. He hasn't addressed
inflation. Prices of goods we import are up. The tariffs are paid by the Chinese that we have put
tariffs on the Chinese and they are paying for that. And if you think that they can't
pay their own tariffs, then that to me strikes me as a little racist.
The China man is industrious.
The China man works hard
and the China man can pay the taxes
and you're going to come and tell me
the Chinese can't afford the tariffs.
He's putting their feet to the fire.
It's about time.
It's about time.
It's about time.
It's about time.
Let me tell you something, my friend.
Tell me something.
Because I know for a fact.
I'm excited to hear what this fact is.
That you are engaged to be
That's true.
To a man.
Mm-hmm.
And they say, oh,
a Republican Party.
Oh, no, no.
They're so anti-gay.
They're so anti-gay.
Let me tell you, my friend.
When something is
a forbidding
or shunned,
you see, I can tell by your face,
it's taboo.
It's called David Boy sang
the song,
Mr. Lawrence at Christmas.
My love wears
forbidden colors.
So come on over
to this side because it's a taboo
and it makes it hotter.
It makes it hotter.
We are in the...
The gays in our...
They are in the closet
and they are quiet.
And they grind quietly.
We have gays.
No, we don't have gays.
We have them, but they're quiet.
The way they should be,
and it makes it hotter, John.
I'm beginning...
I'm beginning to think there's...
My grandfather used to say,
men are for love,
women are for babies.
And...
And your wife loves to hide.
She loves to hike. Yes.
I love that for you.
It seems like you got a healthy thing going.
So in March, Trump revoked temporary legal status for thousands of Cuban immigrants.
You yourself, Miguel, are a Cuban American.
What is your response?
What did you say to your neighbors?
What did your neighbors say to you?
You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
In this case, the eggs are some human rights.
But that's the sacrifice that I am willing to make for a...
better, stronger America.
And America, they're Nazis, they're white pride.
We have a quota.
We will accept a little bit of cinnamon
and a little bit of black
and a little bit of gay and a little bit of women's
into the mixture of the white power.
And it works splendidly.
Because it makes you feel special in a way.
Yes, it does.
You feel, because there's going to be few,
because you sort of got into the door closed behind you.
Thank you, Einstein.
Give this man a lollipop.
Yes.
Yes.
Hey, Miguel, do you ever think that may be...
By the way, by the way,
earlier you said, oh, that, that, your wife,
I hope that works out,
but it was a snide remark.
It was a snide, I got it.
And I want to tell you something.
I want to tell you something right now.
I am, I went, I'm a man and I am a heteroseech.
I don't know if I'm implied or whatever.
I'm not, what I'm saying, I know gay guys in there,
I'm not, I took my, I took my wife on a date,
and we went home, and I put my penis inside her.
Yeah, we get it.
We know what sex is.
You don't need to, what is good, what are you looking up?
vagina
and I compare notes with
Lindsay a gram
and we do it the same way
he's a big man
he likes the women's too
and we take the penis
in the vagina and you
push it in pull it down
and then I do something
I do something that men have to do
you listen and they say
stop stop and I say and then we high five
and he's done, and everyone's happy.
So don't tell me.
And you know what?
I apologize.
I was a little snide, and I apologize.
I apologize.
See, there's two sides can talk.
This is what it's about.
But I would just be, I am feeling a sense
that there are some,
that there's something about the manliness.
Always the downside, always with the negative.
Go ahead.
That there's something appealing to you
about this sort of masculinity and manhood
and this idea of strength
that maybe it's compensating for something
for some sense of which you don't belong.
We go with our leader to the UFC fights.
Do you know what this is?
The M.M.A.
Yeah, yeah.
The M.A.
So we go in a group of men
not compensated for M.L.
There's something jump between you and me?
In the bathrooms, there are...
Certain stalls have holes.
And they are quite glorious.
If you know what I mean.
And there's a reason that the men,
the tough guys with the camel
shirts and they wear the baseball caps
backwards. Think about that.
So I don't see any compensation
because we are men in a group together watching men
fight and that's what men do.
And it's very macho, very macho indeed.
So you're not willing to concede
that there's any reason, any of us
might have criticisms of the way
Trump has governed these first seven months.
There's nothing that you can admit
that you wish he was
doing differently. No way in which he has failed, even on your own terms. If any, you say,
he works too hard. And I want him to take a break. And he's exhausting himself. He is a man.
And I always start them as an answer. Don't say he's real. He always, they've added like five
years to his age. He's a younger man than he is because they think it as wisdom. And I say,
no, let him be his own age. He's not an old man. All right. I want to just run through some things.
What do you think about J.D. Vance?
He's problematic, but we are working with him.
We are working with him, trying to manipulate and massage.
There's tinctures being added to his diet.
We don't know whether to give him a full long beard or shave it off.
He's not, we're working with him.
Because the leader, the dear leader is very charismatic, very wonderful.
And J.D. Vance, we don't know what to do is something.
Should happen.
God forbid, we don't know what's going to happen.
What I said, Baron.
You want Baron?
Oh, have you seen him?
Like a skyscraper, white, pure, seven feet, eight inches.
He goes to NYU.
He's a beautiful boy.
Eyes, dead eyes, the eyes of Stephen Miller.
No life like a shark.
But he's a beautiful, white, yes.
What do you think about Stephen Miller?
I don't know what happened to him.
he's
he
we don't
you know
he
we try to not
let him know
that there are Nazis
in the party
because he's Jewish
yes
right
he's a Jewish man
with Nazis
all around him
and he doesn't seem to mind
and so we're keeping that
from him
as long as we can
that makes sense
because in his soul
he's a little bit
a Nazi himself
Yeah, he has the instinct for sure.
Yes, he has the correct, yes, he has those instincts.
Yeah, yeah.
Were you ever bullied as a kid?
I, yes.
You were?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
And what was that like for you?
It was horrible.
It was a woman.
She was smart.
Right.
Reading their books.
With the good grades.
Uh-huh.
You know, picking on a little me.
in the school yard
and we
knew some attorneys and we
litigated and we broke
her family and took a lot
money from her family
and yes and
did you learn anything from that experience about empathy
about the idea that that
sometimes you have to stick up for people that maybe
don't have all the power that being
using your strength
to help people that need it rather than
dominating was there any less than a certain amount of
resources in
this world. There are seven billion
people and only a few
us are going to make it. So my
advice is get on a winning
team.
No way are we going
to tax? My friends,
you leave them alone, they're the billionaires.
They need their billions to trickle
down.
And so don't tax them. I know everyone
so tax them 40%. I know
that's too much. Hey,
Musk just became a
trillionaire. He did. Is it happened finally?
It finally happened.
So we're very happy for him.
We think it depends on how our leader wakes up in the morning,
how he decides, how he's feeling.
That's the foreign policy and domestic policy.
Whatever he's thinking, we follow, follow, follow, follow him to the death.
Well, Miguel Gonzalez has been really interesting talking you.
Thank you so much for your time.
Appreciate your willingness to have this kind of dialogue.
And good luck in your marriage.
Thank you everyone for continuing to debate us and talk and discuss things while we do what we like.
So let's continue the dialogues.
Thank you.
All right.
Miguel Gonzalez, Latinos for Trump.
Thank you so much.
What a pleasure.
We'll be right back.
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Please welcome to the stage for the first time this evening.
It's Oscar Nunez and Alex Borstein.
Hi, thank you so much.
Come on in.
Thank you so much for being here.
Hi, hi.
You come in, you please go.
I want you to come up.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, you come in there.
Oscar, welcome.
No nice to see you.
Thank you.
I want to hear about that vagina thing again.
You can keep that note.
Okay.
Look, I don't want to do too much, you know, behind the music.
But before the show, Austin was like, I need a piece of paper.
I got to write something down.
I have a note.
Did you see what I wrote that?
Yeah, I do, yeah.
That's a pro.
Alex, so nice to meet you.
It's nice to be met.
Can I perch like this?
You can perch however you want.
Look how he's sitting.
Are we perching?
there we are
that's great
that's good stuff
no wrong way to sit
no wrong way to sit
you're good
I'm good
Alex
hi hi
you're doing a stand-up tour
it's called
Alex Borstein is thirsty
what do you mean
interesting
you should you should ask out
I actually did the show
twice here at Dynasty Typewriter.
Yes.
I, LA premiered it here at this very venue.
You know, the kids these days use that term
to mean a few things.
Are you familiar with the internet?
Yeah.
Yeah, I love it.
So apparently there's something called a thirst trap.
You post something in hopes that you lure
an unwilling or a willing participant
into your trap of moisture.
Yes? Is this new to you?
No, no, I'm learning.
So I'm playing with that a little bit,
and I'm also just playing with really the concept of dehydration.
You know, I can honestly say that I don't believe in my whole life
I ever posted a thirst trap
because on some level, I've always understood
that I was going to have to win somebody over with words, you know?
That that was going to be my best,
that the way to generate, it would have to be a conversation, you know?
That would be where the trap would be laid.
I just agree.
I think this perch thing is a bit of a thirst trap.
Okay, thank you for saying that.
I think this is it.
You have the pillow under your rump, too.
Yeah.
I don't think you have enough notes.
It's like a sex pillow.
Well, what's funny is you went to sex.
I went to yoga because my hips are tight.
Oscar.
Yes, sir.
The paper just got renewed for a second season.
Yeah, yes, it did.
Now, it's about a local newspaper.
Yes.
And was it because they don't exist anymore
that it was exciting to explore?
Was it, our kids going to understand
what the show was about
when they watch it in two to three years?
I don't know.
Greg Daniels loves journalism.
He's a good man, he's smart man.
And, like, months ago, he's like, we're having lunch.
It doesn't matter where Bel Air, Beverly Hills, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
And he's like, Oscar, I'm thinking of doing a show about a paper.
I don't know.
Do you mind reprising your character if we bring Oscar back?
And I'm like, no, I don't mind.
I don't mind.
I don't.
Anyone else says something like that.
It just goes away.
It's just a thought.
But being Greg Daniels, he makes it happen.
It's incredible.
So slowly but surely, we keep meeting and every time it would be fleshed out more and more
until finally he's like, we had lunch.
He's like, come eat the writers.
We haven't.
I'm like, oh, oh, shit.
And then we're walking there.
And I didn't tell you this, although I mentioned his name.
He said, Oscar, we started casting.
Do you know who Alex Edelman is?
I'm like, the guy who did Just for Us, which I just, it's like, yeah, him.
We cast him in the show.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
And I'm like, all right, here we go.
And that was the beginning of it.
And now it's done.
And now it's renewed for, I mean, it's crazy.
I said no when he came to me.
Pursuing other things.
You're pursuing other things.
Yeah, I was busy being thirsty.
He wasn't thirsty enough.
Hey, your character in Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, she gay?
Huh.
Interesting.
She gay.
She gay.
She gay. Was she gay person?
Hey, was she gay?
Hey, you didn't watch the full, you didn't watch the full, you didn't watch the,
Was she gay?
You didn't watch it.
Yeah, I did.
She partook of some vagina.
She ultimately got some vagina?
She partook of some, yeah.
Oh, that's a relief.
She did, yeah.
I'm glad.
It's interesting, actually, that people had such a reaction to me, the actress,
or the show, not kind of outing her or not talking about it.
And it was so interesting that people were,
so angry and felt ownership
over this character's sexuality
when in reality
I think the way Amy handled it and the way
Susie handles it, it was very
it made sense in 1950s.
It made sense of how you would
treat your sexuality and it's no one's business
and it's not what she put in her first step
forward but I find it so interesting
that it really riled people. Yeah people really
I just remember at the time like when it was he were like
she's gay. Yeah.
Yeah. She's wearing that hat.
Yeah.
She's very terse.
Yeah.
There's a coach.
It seems gay.
People were, people were very, very up in arms about it.
Yeah, people get up in arms about all kinds of stuff.
Like what?
Oh my God, all kinds of stuff.
It's crazy out there.
It's an interesting time to be alive, don't you find?
I think so.
I'll let you know if I had a heartbeat ever again.
John, are you surprised that they're moving so quickly and so boldly?
Are you surprised at that at the speed of the stuff that's happening?
Yes.
So I, look, Trump is kind of feral.
He has talents, but he's instinctive.
Every president in their second term learns from their version of a mistake every president
makes in their first term.
And that mistake is letting the job push them as opposed to them determining what the
job is. They get their hands. You have anyone in any job, right? You figure out what the job is. You get
better at understanding how to do it and do it the way you want to do it. You don't get ruled by the
job. You rule the job. But because there was this four-year into Regnum, there are all kinds of people
out there planning and plotting and thinking about how to direct Trump's instincts and to use Trump as a
vessel for their purposes. That's what Project 2025 is. That's where this immigration crackdown
comes from. And so part of what has made it surprising is Trump remains Trump. But there were a lot of
people who thought very hard about how to move quickly to use what limited time they had and to use
him to achieve their ends. And that relentlessness and that ability for Trump to cast about
and then have a team behind him that follows through. Right. Like in the first term, if Trump
spouted off about saying a woman in Colorado,
should be freed for her part in the election denial scheme and that she's being tortured
or if she's not freed, there'll be consequences.
You could usually write that kind of thing off as him using bluster and forgetting about it.
But now there are people writing these things down, thinking about what the next step is,
thinking about how to use that, right?
And so, like, that has been surprising, the kind of comprehensiveness of it and the relentlessness
of it.
I think they just determined, too, you know, they want to.
wanted to be the Jillian Michaels.
They wanted to be the hardcore trainers
that don't let you fucking breathe.
There's not a moment to breathe.
There's no second to even think about
what the last...
What the last punch was
or what the abuse was.
It's just being obliterated in the ring.
And that's kind of what I think.
I think they just became this.
And we're being trained to not stop and not breathe.
Yeah. It's a bummer for sure.
And speaking of being unable to keep up,
it's time for a segment we call,
News It or Lose It.
Here's how it works.
We're going to talk about,
we're going to quiz you both about the news.
Look at us.
There we are.
In our News It or Lose it.
It's going to be uplifting.
This is a local news edition
that we're going to cover a bunch of local stories
from across the country.
After name checking Chicago and Baltimore
for cities he planned to target for National Guard deployments.
Trump shouted out what red state city
has a potential location for a federal crackdown.
I'll give you a hint.
I guarantee...
Nope.
Guarantee.
A guarantee it.
New Orleans?
You got it.
Next question.
Alex, this one will be for you.
I'm not even sure how the game works.
Your accents gave me the clue.
Yeah, it was really good.
It was really good.
It was really good.
Didn't you catch it?
Didn't you catch that I was speaking?
as if, I guarantee.
Oh, that was an accent.
Yes, that's a New Orleans.
Okay. Ocasion, the occasion.
Okay.
I misunderstood.
I thought you were having a stroke.
I apologize.
Oh.
No, no, I really...
It was like that total recall moment
where the robot just melted down.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
That was my plan to do the worst voices in front of Alex Borestein.
On Tuesday,
while the nation waited breathlessly to see if Donald Trump
had kicked the bucket, his administration
announced that he had kicked the U.S. Space Command
from Colorado Springs, Colorado
to what southern state, Alex?
Oh, I know this.
Starts with a?
Sweet home.
Alabama.
That's right.
Colorado lawmakers immediately objected,
which will require three to four years of building
and billions to create facilities equal to those
that already exist in Colorado Springs.
Two Colorado senators and eight House members,
members objected, saying, bottom line, moving space command headquarters,
weakens our national security.
I mean, of course, what else are they going to say?
Bama.
Bama. Bama. Yeah, it's fun to say that, isn't it?
Roll-tide.
Bama. Nevada endured its second week grappling with a widespread calamity.
Was it, A, a statewide ransomware attack,
B, dust storms brought on by the state's cataclysmic drought conditions,
or C. Brownouts caused by the Las Vegas fear's massive electrical needs.
Wait. I wasn't listening. Go back to the beginning?
The answer is statewide.
Ransomware attack.
He said Nevada.
Oh, I missed the whole thing.
Alex, which state banned
the sale of lab-grown meat in stores
and restaurants? I'll give you a hint.
I guarantee it's not
that place.
But it's nearby.
Which?
That was the hint that it's
close to Norlands?
Give it your best, y'all. Give it your best guess.
I guarantee it's...
It's a state that's very meat-meat-friendly.
Is it Texas?
Yes.
It is.
So they banned there's no chemical...
Well, cultivated meat, I think they'd like to call it.
But I still don't think they've landed on the right name for the lab-grown meat, which I'm a fan of.
I'm a favor of it because I believe in a future where they print T-Bone steaks like the size of pizza boxes.
It was actually my nickname in college was cultivated meat.
Wow.
It's a long nickname.
But accurate.
It's beautiful.
So weird, a night of some of coincidences.
It's a night of coincidence.
It's a connection.
Yeah.
And connection.
By the way, you can keep that note.
Thank you.
Here in California, the golden state with red prices to match,
Democrats are at odds over Senate Bill 79,
which would override local zoning laws
to allow for more housing,
specifically multifamily buildings,
up to seven stories near what?
Starbucks?
Indirectly yes
Schools
I
It is near
Is it A municipal buildings
Like libraries and post offices
B major transit stops
Or C
The Bridge the Red Hot Chili Peppers
S sang about in that song
Is that bridge a landmark now
Look there they are
There they are
Give it away
Give it away now
They were so cool
They were so cool
Are they still with us?
Yeah, okay.
It's near major transit stops is the answer.
And just for everybody listening,
there's currently a debate in the state house
around whether or not to pass SB 79.
It is a bill that it take a modest step
towards allowing construction
of seven-story buildings near transit stops.
Now, there's been some kind of suggestion
that that would mean every bus stop.
It's not every bus stop.
It's towards, you know,
it's to basically major transit stops to allow a construction of apartments where people want to live.
It would help relieve traffic.
It would help lower rents.
What is the downside?
What is this a thing?
The downside.
Well, that's, it's great.
So I interviewed a city council member about why she opposes it.
And they want local control.
In practice, what that means is slowing down development and seeing themselves as a compromise
agent between yimbis and nimbis.
But what she described in our conversation was reducing the size of an apartment building.
from six stories to three stories, but that's the story that's been playing out all across
California. L.A. as part of a state mandate, agreed to build 456,000 units of housing in 10 years.
They are only on track to build a third of that. And even that number, 456,000 is a bare minimum,
which we are failing to hit. So L.A. is the city council members that voted against her,
are like, we can do it ourselves, we can do it ourselves. They haven't. They can't. They won't.
This is a modest step to start relieving the pressure on housing.
in California that is driving people to Texas, that it's keeping people from being able to move
here, that is hurting our ability to have a film and television industry in this state.
It is like an urgent situation.
The question is how much this will be watered down because right now, NIMBYs are louder
than the people that want this to go through.
People that have owned homes for 40 years, people that are against this bill, they are
loud, they are at the city council meetings, they're calling their legislators, the renters,
and by the way, the people that don't live here yet, right?
They're not making calls.
They don't feel as connected to this.
debate and it's a huge problem so if you're hearing this and you live in california go to
vote save america.com because by between now when i'm saying this and when it comes out i'll make
sure there's something there go to vote save america.com slash let's pick something it's with
go to vote save america.com slash yimbi and there'll be something there to show you how to find your
legislator and call them. We really do need
people to put pressure on because whether or not
this thing passes and if it passes how watered
down it is, will be determined in the next few days.
So please, if you can, give
them a call. It is important.
There is no good argument against it, honestly.
It's about local control.
It's about the character of neighborhoods.
But the idea that
California should
stay the same is not what
the state's about. It's also
not a way to be welcoming.
We all like, oh, you know, we want to be welcoming
to immigrants, but we're going to price them out of our state
forever. Like, we want to be a
place that helps
the unhoused, but we're going to make it impossible for
people to afford to live here. Like, it's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
John,
do you think, yes.
Do you
think that if there's
a chance this man is going to lose,
that he will allow elections to
go on, or is he going to call out
the, like, declare Marshall?
law because this guy who is a documented liar takes over the press, throws gay people and
intellectuals in jail and says, I'm going to clean up corruption, oh, wait, I'm in power now,
we're going to postpone elections until we have elections.
I'm talking about Fidel Castro.
That's what he did.
And I'm like, oh, now he had it easier because it's 11 million people in a little island.
And it's difficult because we're 350 million people in a big space.
So it's harder to orchestrate something like that.
But I can kind of see this guy just saying,
well, everything's too crazy.
I'm going to declare martial law.
What we're going to do?
We're going to vote.
We're going to get the election done later.
Let's all relax.
We're just going to wait six months.
We're going to wait a year.
And then we're like, what the fuck?
I get that fear.
I'm not saying it's illegitimate.
And I don't think there's any value in telling people that things can't be,
as bad as you're predicting, one problem of dealing with fascists is your fears feel too early
and then they feel too late. That's part of the threat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, I also think sometimes in our, it's easier to imagine how bad it can
get. It's also sometimes in the noise and in the endless turn, hard to remember that we have
some strengths and some things going for us, one of which is, there's no, this is not, this is America
and it's not commanded control. And we got, but we got tens of thousands of municipalities
that run their own elections.
We have a very distributed power structure.
We have governors.
We have states.
It is a complicated and unmanageable country.
That is a strength.
I like there's more communication between the Blue State governors.
I like that.
I wish they would have started earlier.
Well, that's, yeah.
So that's, let's do one last question.
What state are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey
allegedly planning to get married in?
Oh.
Is Hawaii still a state?
Are they still with us?
What state?
Hawaii?
It's still for sure.
Sure is still a state.
Where they're going to get married or where they want to live?
Where they want to get married.
Apparently, their signature food, the signature food of the state is something called coffee milk.
Coffee milk.
Coffee milk?
Coffee milk.
They're also famous for the third clam chowder.
There's a third clam chowder and it's theirs.
That's a good hint.
I don't know what, but I love that hint.
There's a third chowder, Alex.
Hey, me, me, oh, what's that third?
Meat.
It goes good with cultivated meat, though, I bet.
I have no idea what the state is.
It's a, it's more of a kind of a golden broth.
It's Rhode Island.
It's Rhode Island style clam chowder.
Rhode Island?
What would bring them to Rhode Island?
It is, it really is.
All right, that's a beautiful state.
I think she has a house there.
That's a beautiful state.
So there's something, that's something beautiful about her.
Everyone's shocked.
Listen to the murmur.
Rhode Island.
What's your favorite chowder?
Who wants chowder?
Um, my favorite chowder is the clam is the New England clam chowder.
That's the white, creamy.
It's interesting that you played a Rhode Island character for so many years, but I don't
believe in any episode I've seen, Rhode Island style clam chowder has come up.
There is.
It's my favorite line of all time of Lois is in an episode, um, where the, the gentleman
characters and the dog and the baby are all having an Ipecac competition.
I remember this.
Drinking as much Ipecac as I can, seeing who throws up first and,
they vomit profusely.
It does not end.
It goes around and around and around.
It's one of the funniest scenes.
And then four minutes into it,
Lois comes through the door holding a bowl
and says, who wants chowder?
But what style of chowder?
The fact that Rhode Island has its own
does not, is sort of isn't part
of the comedy of that scene.
I had never heard that.
You're sure it's not just Taylor's country?
Because she probably has her own country now, right?
It's not just her country's chowder, her state chowder.
Yeah, you're probably right.
You're not sure.
I just want to, look.
We wish them the best.
And we love that.
We love them.
We want them to be happy.
I watched that interview that they did.
And I was like, okay.
I always want, like, people who grew up, like, big and muscular.
and talented at sports and a woman who's like tall and leggy with a beautiful voice like,
I just want them to find something good.
They got together.
Life was so hard for them.
I just feel so happy that it's finally turning for them.
I think if you're a fly on the wall and you're listening to their conversation between them,
you'd probably fall asleep pretty quickly.
I don't know.
I do adore them.
I'm into it.
No harm, no foul.
I stand that.
No harm, no foul.
They'll harm no foul.
Let them be happy.
I'm charmed by them.
I'm charmed by them.
I do wonder what it would have been like to live in either one of those bodies for even a few days.
Right?
You know?
Imagine walking around operating those things like in men in black.
Yeah.
Vincent Dinoffrio.
Like a meat puppet.
Yeah, like a meat puppet.
Just being like burp, burp, burp, burp, burp.
You know what?
In fairness to them, they're both really good at what they do.
Oh, no, I'm a fan.
Oh, yeah, you weren't kidding.
No, I'm a, I'm a fan.
Like, I think he's hot and she's amazing, and I'm into it.
Yeah.
When we come back, it's time for The Egg of Truth.
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It's only once in a blown moon
that love it or leave it discovers
a new segment so perfect
and so perfectly stupid
that it deserves a special acknowledgement.
Tonight we bring you
the egg of truth.
I don't remember posing for that.
Hey, was that sound effect what you guys were recording in the office?
Ha!
I hold in my hands the egg of truth.
Inside we've assembled a delightful buffet of fun dinner party conversation starters
and one real serious interview question that will cut you to your very core.
You must answer this devastating question.
Just so you know, we discussed using multiple devastating questions,
but Sarah Lazarus, our writer, was adamant that it had to be,
one and we must go about this honestly
so if we don't pull the devastating one
then I'm sorry I guess we'll have to do this again
we'll also take turns
drawing questions I'm going to go first
because it is my show
good luck
thanks and I don't know I just this is real
like I don't know what the questions are I don't know what the devastating
one what the hard question is I don't know anything
is it in a different language what's so devastating
I have no idea I really don't know
and honestly I was chilled to the core by the way they
described it
if you only had
24 hours to live, would you come on this show again?
Only if cultivated meat is my co-guessed person.
I think you can be honest, you wouldn't be here.
Okay, I'll be honest, because that was a lie.
Am I sleeping for any of those 24 hours?
That's a great question.
It'd be a weird thing to do.
It would be hard to fall asleep, I think.
You'd be very hard.
You'd be very hard.
You know, TikTok.
So maybe I'd do this instead of sleeping.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Think?
There's free candy backstage.
I don't see why not.
I mean, enjoy what you're doing.
It's just 24 hours.
There's plenty of time.
This isn't all the 24 hours.
Just a little bit of that time.
And by the way, I live every day like I only have 20,
hours.
And I suggest you do the same.
No one knows if you have tomorrow.
I think I'd try fentanyl.
Alex, it's your turn
for the egg of truth.
Go Alex. Go Alex. Go Alex. Go Alex.
And I read it allowed.
Devastating question.
That wasn't the devastating question?
I don't think so.
Oh, wow.
Hmm
What's the one thing on your bucket list
That you're pretty sure
You're not going to get around to
Oh, interesting
Interesting
Maybe that three-way with Travis and Taylor
Is there more of a chance
That's going to happen now that they're married
Or less of a chance
You know what?
Give them
three years.
They'll need some cultivated meat by then.
They enjoy cultivated meat so much.
The audience.
You'll be like this stunningly beautiful, talented,
blonde woman, enough already.
I want something meatier.
And cultivated.
I want meat, not farm-raised.
I want meat that was grown scientifically.
Here we go.
what's the worst advice you've ever received oh what is the worst advice was it oh my gosh do the
love it or leave it podcast i can't i mean it might not be good advice but it'd be shocking
to be the worst advice you've ever received oh it's not the worst advice um i gee i don't know
i went i took dental technology like a course and i
I graduated, it was a two-year school, and I worked for like a year, and I left, I got bored.
It was, but I enjoyed the time, but I don't know what I got out of it.
Like to learn how to do x-rays and things like that?
No, make teeth, make bridges.
Oh.
Stuff like that.
Yeah, I was a dental technologist, yeah.
I was told throughout most of my childhood and into my early adulthood that given that I was
quite smart and annoying, I should go to law school.
Like, that was told to me over, it was really drilled into.
me by a lot of people over and over again that I was just meant to go to law school.
And I was fully enrolled in the University of Chicago Law School, enrolled to the point where
someone I had met was like, are you moving in?
And they were waiting for me to send a picture of my face for the student Facebook.
Like, I was going.
And then I just ghosted the whole thing.
Just didn't do it.
So do you think that you're saying the advice to go to law school was the worst advice?
That was bad advice.
It wasn't right.
It wasn't right.
And I'm really glad I didn't go.
And since then, like, I've, like, like, like, the people that don't tell you to go to law school are lawyers.
And because they'll say, do you want to be a lawyer?
And if you don't say, yes, it's a bad sign.
Because it's the only, it's a rare profession where that, that's not a question that comes up in the process.
And so they're like, well, I was thinking about going to law school.
Do you want to be a lawyer?
I'm not sure. Then don't go.
Yeah.
A lot of people become lawyers and then do something else.
Yeah, that's stupid.
Alex, did you get any bad advice in your life?
I mean, I had people that were kind of naysayers, you know, dream shitters.
You know, don't try to perform.
Don't, you know, have something to fall back on.
You know, and I was told I was, I had this experience.
This is such a weird story.
I was auditioning for something that was called Kids of the Century.
This is so embarrassing here in L.A.
And it was, I don't know if I was like 17 or something.
And you had to go from room to room and you did a little monologue.
You were going to do something in the summer.
We were going to do like plays or go travel and do things.
And you do a monologue.
You do dance and then you sing.
And I was in these red plastic dance pants.
Do you remember those?
They like, well, my thighs rubbed together.
So they made a considerable.
amount of noise and I was up there I did my dancing I did my singing and when I got up to
the piano they had my sheet with notes about me on it and I got real close right before I had to
I did the scales and then I was going to sing a solo and I saw an asterisk and I saw notes and I was like
I'm amazing I want to read this and I got real close and it said uh tone deaf has a weight
problem and that was that was you know maybe the best advice because i was like oh yeah go fuck
yourself watch this you know but yeah there is just kind of a constant don't don't quit your
day job kind of advice you know oh that horrible piece of paper yeah and i'm not tone deaf
all right let's do another one
What's something you wish your grandparents had said to you before they died?
Well, my grand, we came from Cuba.
My grandmother wanted to go to be a doctor.
And because of the revolution, we had to come to here.
And just like about 15 years ago here in the United States, she got into med school.
as a cadaver
but
she got in
that was
I started laughing
your face was so
fucking serious
I stopped the laugh
I was like I have to say
the numbers like how is this possible
dead
I wish that was my joke
it's someone else's but it's such a good joke
I love it so
Alex do you have something you wish your grandparents would have told you
I just feel like they
could have warned me that I was
tone deaf and had a weight problem.
No, no, no.
They actually did tell me that.
Often.
No.
I mean, honestly, to be a little bit sappy, I was very fortunate, and I had amazing grandparents
who imparted incredible drops of wisdom to me and told me exactly what I needed to hear.
That's beautiful.
My grandmother, I've talked about it in an Emmy speech.
She was going to be shot into the Danube River in Budapest,
and she stepped out of line.
And that's the only reason I am here.
And she consistently stepped out of line her whole life and told me to.
And she lied when it was convenient and worked to her favor.
And she was my hero.
So she told me everything I needed to hear.
That was a great speech.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And I think it's smart that they finally closed that ride at the Danube.
because a lot of people
were getting hurt on that thing.
I know.
It's not safe.
I know.
And that's our show.
Wow.
It's fun to end it abruptly.
Why not?
Why not?
This was so much fun.
Thank you to Oscar Nunez and Alex Borsene.
We'll see you next week at Dynasty Typewriter.
Everybody, check out Alex Borseson on tour.
Everybody watched the paper.
We'll see you.
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