Lovett or Leave It - More Like Pete Hague-seth

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

This week, Pete Hegseth trolls and passes blame over lawless boat strikes. Trump falls hard, both asleep and in the polls. Mike Johnson tries to skirt the ladies of the GOP, while Kash Patel can’t h...elp but jacket. Trixie Mattel gets Lovett’s house in order, and all Aparna Nancherla wants for Christmas is to sit still as we end our festive evening with a full color glossy spread of this year’s Lovett or Leave It gift guide.This holiday season, gift someone a Friends of the Pod subscription or treat yourself. Learn more at crooked.com/friends. Subscribing is the best way to support independent progressive media.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Love it or leave it. It's Love It or Leave It. What's up, Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It, live it, live from Dynasty Typewriter. We've got a great show for you tonight. Trixie Mattel is here. To spread some holiday queer. A pardon on Charla's here.
Starting point is 00:01:56 To help the anxious find their holiday cheer. Then we all. share our picks for the official love it or leave it gifts of the year. But first, let's get into it. What a week. A new Gallupol found that President Trump's approval rating has slid to 36%
Starting point is 00:02:15 the lowest it's been since Trump left office in 2021. But hey, don't think of it as the lowest approval rating of your second term. Think of it as the lowest approval rating of your second term so far. Here is the deeply unpopular president himself falling asleep in Tuesday's cabinet meeting while Marco Rubio was addressing
Starting point is 00:02:33 him directly. It never would have happened if you've been president. But this war is going on and the president is trying to end it. Not because, listen, we've got a million things to focus on in the world as a country, but he's the only leader in the world that can help end it. If an ass is kissed
Starting point is 00:02:51 in the woods and no one is awake to feel it, does it even count? At least Biden's team had the common decency to paint pupils on his closed eyelids. Meanwhile, as Trump's approval falls and his grip on the party loosens, Republicans are turning on each other. They're at each other's throats and not in the Nancy Reagan way. New York Congresswoman, Elise Stefanik, has been publicly blasting House Speaker Mike Johnson, and Mike Johnson does not like being blasted. The ID
Starting point is 00:03:29 of being blasted completely repulsed him. Stefanik was furious at Johnson when a must-pass defense spending bill no longer included her provision to require the FBI to notify Congress when opening a counterintelligence investigation into candidates for federal office, calling it a scandalous disgrace that Republicans got rolled by the Dems and Deep State.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Say what now, said the powerful and unstoppable Democrats at a party to celebrate, only losing in a Tennessee House race by nine points. But then Johnson claimed he had no idea what Stefanik was going on about. That is false. I don't exactly know why Elise won't just call me. I texted her yesterday. I wrote her and I said, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:04:17 This hasn't even made it to my level. I don't know why she's frustrated with me. I literally had nothing to do with it. Why is a Republican member of the House making a big public spectacle instead of trying to actually resolve a problem? That's your question. Why do birds shit on cars, Mike? For the same reason, at least Stefonic
Starting point is 00:04:36 has taken a shit on your car. It's who they are. Stefanik clapped back on social media. Just more lies from the speaker. This is his preferred tactic to tell members when he gets caught torpedoing the Republican agenda. What's worse, Johnson sent a second torpedo
Starting point is 00:04:52 after some of the agenda survived the first attack. Your reaction's correct. Stefanik isn't the only female Republican clashing with Johnson. New York Times reported this week that Nancy Mace is so fed up with Johnson and the way women are being treated under his leadership in the House, she considered meeting Marjorie Taylor Green to discuss retiring early too. My God, it's happening. They're inventing feminism.
Starting point is 00:05:28 unaware that it already evolved elsewhere, like how crabs have appeared independently in several different places. Nobody disturbed them. Somebody throw a sheet over Judith Butler's enclosure. And yet, as Republicans are unraveling, they're becoming increasingly radical, which makes sense.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You don't drink less the day your wife leaves you. Last week, two West Virginia National Guard members were shot in downtown D.C. and one of them was killed. An Afghan National, who once served on a counterterrorism unit operated by the CIA, has been charged in the deadly and terrible attack. In the wake of the shooting, the administration announced that it was suspending asylum decisions, halting visas for all Afghans, including those who assisted the U.S.'s war effort, and reexamining green card applications for people from every country of concern. This is obviously what they had already wanted and planned to do, and this terrible shooting is only a useful pretext. Holding,
Starting point is 00:06:27 an entire group of people responsible for the actions of one deranged person is never acceptable, though I do think it should be legal to crash into cyber trucks. During Trump's cabinet meeting Tuesday, he also attacked Representative Elon Omar and other immigrants from Somalia calling them garbage. She's garbage. Her friends are garbage. These are people that work. These are people that say, let's go.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Come on. Let's make this place great. What is this delusion that immigrants don't work, that grow our food, take care of our children, build houses, lie motionless under Donald Trump on a biweekly basis, as per their marital agreement? As they've been busy demonizing millions of immigrants, we've learned more about the administration's lawless murders on the high seas.
Starting point is 00:07:17 The Washington Post reported that the military fired on a suspected drug boat in the Caribbean on September 2nd and then on Hegseth's orders to kill everyone on board fired again, killing survivors who were, according to the post, clinging to the wreckage. Killing survivors of a shipwreck is what's known in military and legal circles as a war crime, with penalties ranging from prison time to a spot on the rotation on the five. It can't be right. The White House first denied the report, then defended the double-tap while also trying to distance Pete Hegseth from it,
Starting point is 00:07:47 claiming that it was actually Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley who gave the order for the second strike. And in a real curveball, the White House suggested that Frank Mitch Bradley may have, have been responsible for Pete Hegsett's extramarital affairs as well. Meanwhile, as the White House was claiming we have to defend our country from drugs by blowing up random boats in the ocean, Trump pardoned former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, who was serving a 45-year prison sentence for drug and weapons trafficking. That was a Biden horrible witch hunt, which was, you know, a lot of people in Honduras asked me to do that, and I did it. I feel very good about it.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Two problems here. One, the investigation that led to her. Hernandez's conviction took place during Trump's first term, and it was led for a time by MAGA loyalist Emil Bavet. Two, if Biden had actually done any witch hunting, we might not be in this fucking mess. Biden couldn't catch a fucking witch if she stuck a broom
Starting point is 00:08:39 up his ass. Old loser. Pete Hagseth, for his part, responded to the war crime allegations by trolling with an AI joke about a children's book. He posted a this sweet turtle Franklin in an AI cover that said Franklin targets
Starting point is 00:09:00 narco-terrorists. Look, Hegsef, not a serious person, so he thought he could handle this by owning the libs, but a lot of Republicans began to express concerns, too. And of course, Hegseth can't tell the truth about the whole thing, which is when he said, make it a double, he was just thirsty. In Tuesday's cabinet meeting, Hegseth went full simp and said that a couple of hours passed before he learned there was a second strike. and said in response to a reporter's question,
Starting point is 00:09:28 Oh, I see nothing. I was not here. I did not even get up this morning. I apologize. That was a clip from Hogan's Heroes. Here's what he actually said. I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire. It was exploded in fire or smoke.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You can't see anything. You got digital. This is called the fog of war. Hague Seth proceeded to mix up a fresh back, of Fog of Wars, which appeared to be Blackberry Stole and that caffeinated Panera lemonade that kills you. And if Pete's week couldn't get any more drinking alone, the Defense Department Inspector General on Tuesday released its anticipated report and concluded that, yes, when Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth shared sensitive information about an ongoing military operation in a signal group chat, he had, in fact,
Starting point is 00:10:20 fucked up. That scandal is big, but this is bigger, sexed Pete Hegseth, to a woman. woman he met in Phoenix, and somehow Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg. In response to the report, Hegg Seth said, quote, no classified information, total exoneration, case closed, which is, of course, the opposite of what the report found. Based on our review, we conclude that information the secretary sent from his personal cell phone. Match the operational information sent is classified. We compared the signal chat to the emails from U.S. Sentcom commander found that some of the information the secretary sent wasn't classified emails. It goes on. And just as an aside, apparently Vice President J.D. Vance later wrote in the
Starting point is 00:11:09 leak signal chat, which again was used to share information about impending airstrikes in Yemen, quote, this chat's kind of dead anything going on. That's real. Let's run this guy in 2028. I actually cannot wait. I think it's going to be a fan. What a loser. As the administration unravels, it becomes trapped by its own logic.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This is not a movement that is capable of admitting error, and that means doubling down and defending the indefensible. The failures actually feed the extremism. It took like a day to go from the Washington Post as fake news to there was a second strike, and it was good. You said that the follow-up strike was lawful. What law is it that allows no survivors? The strike conducted on September 2nd
Starting point is 00:11:58 was conducted in self-defense to protect Americans in vital United States interests. You can't defend yourself from a product you were going to eagerly purchase. You can't drone strike Costco because you can't stop buying pallets of peanut butter-stuff pretzels because the peanut butter allows you to convince yourself it's protein.
Starting point is 00:12:17 This is the war crime equivalent of get these fries away from me. Here's Megan Kelly's reaction. So I really do kind of not only want to see them killed in the water, whether they're on the boat or in the water, but I'd really like to see them suffer. I would like Trump and Hexeth to make it last a long time so that they lose a limb and bleed out a little. We are not meant to see this. It's witnessing someone's interior horrors. like when that old Republican guy was posting nice shoes beneath that twink's butthole, remember that? So as the administration unravels becomes more extreme, but there is a countervailing force. Becoming more extreme leads to more unraveling. Leaks are part of this. Officials within the
Starting point is 00:13:08 Defense Department told the Washington Post that they were increasingly concerned that the Trump administration was throwing Admiral Bradley under the bus. On Thursday, Bradley briefed congressional leaders in a classified meeting telling lawmakers that the survivors of the boat strike were attempting to continue their drug run and were viable targets, not defenseless men in the water. Their last words, please tell my wife, I love trafficking drugs. It's a lesson, right?
Starting point is 00:13:34 If you love your job, you never work a day in your life. You're right. I know I'm wrong, but it still sucks to have you react this way. Also this week, we got a leaked assessment in which 24 FBI sources described an FBI in turmoil a rudderless ship under Cash Patel.
Starting point is 00:14:00 How rudderless? asked Pete Hegseth, breathing a little heavy, his finger hovering above a button that he was told by a deputy is connected to the coolest bomb ever but is actually just an old garage door opener. In that leaked report, assembled by current and former FBI agents on behalf of Congress,
Starting point is 00:14:18 when Patel arrived in Provo, Utah, after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he refused to get off the plane without wearing an FBI raid jacket in his size. And they only had larges and extra larges on the plane. This is real.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So a female agent ultimately gave Patel her size medium jacket. And he was right to do this. Imagine Cash Patel being photographed in a too large jacket. Why, we'd all lose confidence in him. So we'd say,
Starting point is 00:14:50 got the jacket. But then, Fattel complained that it was missing the Velcro patches on the sleeves that would say FBI, and he also refused to leave the plane until SWAT members removed the patches from their own jackets and put them on his jacket. While this was unfolding, Patel unleashed an expletive-laden tirade over perceived blunders, which I am just now learning is not what you do when your underlings fail to get the patches you demanded for your tiny coat. And I am sorry, guys. I am sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:29 The report also describes Patel's second-in-command, conservative podcaster and former Secret Service agent, Dan Vonjino, as being, and this is a quote, something of a clown. He even went to the doctor because he was feeling so depressed about all of this, and the doctor told him that, if nothing else was working, there's this new clown running the FBI who was really making
Starting point is 00:15:50 everybody laugh. And then Dan looked up in defeat and said, but doctor, I am Bongino. That was good. But doctor, I am Bongino. That killed me. And you got, you reacted as much as it deserves, but it just, as an idea, it feels good. And as there's turmoil at the FBI and leaks from across the administration, a whole slew of Trump's political prosecutions are falling apart too. This week, an appeals court ruled that Trump's hand-selected New Jersey U.S. attorney, Alina Haba, has been serving illegally since she was installed without Senate confirmation.
Starting point is 00:16:35 In New Jersey, even the U.S. attorneys fall off the back of a truck. Comes a week after a judge threw out Trump's indictments against former FBRI director, James Comey and New York Attorney General Tish James because Trump's U.S. Attorney for the Eastern Virginia District, Lindsay Halligan, was also serving illegally. Then on Thursday, a grand jury in Virginia once again refused to indict Tish James for their alleged mortgage fraud. There's no great public support for Trump's authoritarian project, not in the public, not in the government. They just don't have the guys. Scratch the surface of any Trump agency and one layer below the Cash Patels and Pete's Heggseth is a body of angry disgruntled people just like you and
Starting point is 00:17:14 me. They worry about keeping their jobs and their integrity. They try to watch TikToks in the shower, even though water on the screen makes it jump around. They wear a new pair of socks every day, and at the end of the day, they put those socks in the trash, some just as like us. Look, I'm not going to pretend any of this is easy. I'm not in the military or the FBI or the DOJ. Hell, I'm barely a women's size medium. But the more isolated extreme and buffoonish, this Trump clique becomes, the harder it will be to find people willing to go along with it, to bet their futures on this confederacy of schmucks, until only the biggest morons and zealots remain.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And a lot of their knees still hurt from climbing the Capitol stairs that one time because it was so cold and they hadn't stretched. And look, if you don't have any integrity, your backs against the wall, it might make sense to throw your lot in with Trump, get a pardon, grab a job you never would have gotten in the rational world, use a bribe to get ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And it might work, or at least it might seem that way. But you know who I think could help us understand this? Franklin. Remember him? Because our Franklin has a great new series of books to help understand what's coming. First, we have Franklin breathes a sigh of relief when he receives a presidential pardon. Followed by Franklin goes out for drinks to celebrate, but something doesn't feel right. The laughs feel for us. Do these people like me? Franklin has a gnawing sense that the little bolt of doubt and fear that occasionally pierces his public and private explanations for his conduct is Jesus.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Franklin grows old with all of its challenges, but none of the rewards of wisdom and contentment. Franklin rides the bus. We've got to do something for sales. All this is sad and horrifying and hard to joke about. Kamala had to just let the mask slip for one moment and shout on a hot mic. Of course he's old and terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And then we could have gone back to making fun of celebrities paying to get their kids into USC. Remember that? That was fun. But instead, it's war crimes, xenophobia. We got a great show for you tonight. Coming up next, Trixie Mattel says, tis the season to be gay and also all the other seasons.
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Starting point is 00:21:39 Wow. Hi. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Hi. I do want to say up top, I was flattered that I saw you in drag as me this week. Can we show the clip? Yeah. What? You guys in my house for the holiday time.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I can't believe it. Hello, welcome back to the channel. Oh, God. Can I tell you, this was a huge wake-up call for me. You know, when people talk about hitting rock bottom? What? Like, I, first of all, he walked in, I said, I love your shirt. I think I have it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 People keep saying we dress alike, which was also a huge wake-up call for me. But somebody said your jeans are so millennial tight. If you fart, you would break your ankle. I was going to ask you about this because I've, because here's a thing. The pants fashion has changed around us. It has. And I know that. It's not like I'm not aware of it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Right. I know it's happening. I know. But don't you struggle to put on the wider leg pants? I feel like I don't know how to do it. I feel like I'm doing it wrong when I put on the wider leg pants. I feel like a clown in them. I feel like I'm in guys and dolls.
Starting point is 00:22:54 We kind of are right now. Do you have a lot of very young fans? Because let me tell you, I have all like Gen Z, like, girl fans. And let me tell you, they'll fucking tell you. They'll show up in the comments so fast being like, I am so embarrassed of you. I'm getting my tattoo removed today. They really, and I, I guess this is honestly, these pants are from 2012, so they look that way. I guess I'm dressing to the left in this picture, and that's kind of fun for everybody.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I think we all know what sells on YouTube. But I've actually been wearing wider pants, kind of exploring, but I do feel when I wear wide-leg pants, I do feel like Drew Barrymore, like showing up to the high school, and she's like, I'm 25 years old, I'm a reporter for the Chicago Sun Times, you know what I mean? I love that movie because it has a similar undercurrent of horror in the same way the film Big does. Right. Because the film Big, it's like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:49 This is a child. Also, that poor mother, she's in a horror movie that you never get to see. Right. But it's supposed to be light and fun, and it is. It never been kissed. My God, thank God for that teacher that she turned out to be an adult. No kidding. What a mess.
Starting point is 00:24:03 But that's like how many times in like some like it hot or yentel when someone's having like a gay crisis because someone's cross-dressing and they don't know. Like, am I gay? No, it's Barbara Streisand. You know? Which, by the way, maybe, right?
Starting point is 00:24:19 If you're a guy and you fall in love with Barbara Streisand, I wouldn't say that you should exactly sign up for heterosexuality, you know what I mean? Such an important point. And it wasn't, who was her boyfriend? Oh, I remember if she's at the baseball game and she's waiting for him to come kiss her and she... And she kisses.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. They kiss. That would never happen. gay world. Never been felched. That's what it would be. Yeah. Did you get that? Okay. They got it. They got it. They got it. So, tricksy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:52 You've built an empire. Yes, I have. International touring drag star. The lesbians have built my empire. Yes. Brick by brick. A successful cosmetics line. A hotel in Palm Spring. A TV show about said hotel. popular YouTube channel, Bonaroo.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Bonaroo. And most importantly, you have a podcast. Yes, the bald and the beautiful. So I was thinking about where you are now and then remembering you on the first season you were on drag race. And I wonder if, like, have you gone back and looked at it? Do you ever see clips of it?
Starting point is 00:25:28 And what do you think of it? Found footage. Yeah, in Found footage. The Blair Witch Project. Yeah, that's right. You know, it just, sometimes I wish I had hair and I watched that and I go, yeah, wasn't fucking do anything with it.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You know what I mean? It was just, I don't know. I mean, I was 24 when I got on Draggers. I'd never even, I'd never seen a television camera. Something they don't tell you about that experience is none of us have any, we're, we work in an industry where we're in nightclubs taking wet money from people, you know, we're not television stars. We don't understand what's happening.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Even for me, not to be like naive, I showed up in the fact that the workroom was in a building and it was a soundstage. I was like, you know, fucking liars. And you're lying to the fucking. world. I mean, I really couldn't believe it. Rupal talking to in the ear, I was like, who is she talking to? I mean, I didn't understand how anything worked. Really? Yeah. But, you know, I've made it here to the dynasty typewriter at a school night, and so this is huge.
Starting point is 00:26:25 The other thing that's been interesting since you were first on drag race is how it's changed to be more welcoming to trans drag stars. And, you know, and, you know, and, you know, and, you're And the way that's kind of changed drag a little bit because it has to be about something other than competing to be the most woman, right? It becomes more about the performance. And I'm wondering what that feels like as someone that was doing it while that transition was happening. So from my experience, I mean, I started doing drag in Milwaukee when I was 18, 19, 20. Almost all the working drag queens were like trans women of color. So in my real world experience with drag,
Starting point is 00:27:06 the people we worship, the people we wished we were like were all the trans girls in the show. So if anything, it was like drag race kind of catching up to what the reality is. When you go work in drag shows, that's what's really happening. So now it just all matches. It's all congruent. What was I going to ask you?
Starting point is 00:27:23 Oh, yeah. Are you going to ask me if I'm trans? I don't think so. I did Larry King's show, and he asked me three times if I was trans. Three times. And he has eight Peabody. So after the third time, I was like, am I?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like, I was like, what does he know, right? But he was really cool, and he, um, no prompter, sat down, like, and just read my whole bio from memory. Like, he really is, like, he was like that. It was cool. I met him once when he had moved over to, like, ORA TV. He had, like, been, he had been kind of moved along. He just kept doing what.
Starting point is 00:28:03 he would do. He just pointed him at a camera and he'd just be like, Sheboygan, hello. Yes, yes. And it was interesting being in a room with him, Larry King, because he was from the television. Yeah. And so old. He was very old when I saw him. He was really old and he they told me, they said, you know, he's really actually
Starting point is 00:28:19 like, he knows a lot about queer stuff and gay stuff. They said, but don't forget, you know, he's like in his 80s. He just might not know everything. But he was super nice and cool. My assistant, my makeup artist had green here and he goes, your hair is green. And I didn't, you guys, if you go watch, I wish you had this clip it's me and him talking and I'm just in drag and I'm like so disconnected from reality
Starting point is 00:28:37 because it's him sitting there right and he really sits like the South Park like he's sitting like that with the and he wears the cute little sneakers and he we're talking and I go I say something like you know RuPaul like teaches you to not just eat the corn but grow the corn
Starting point is 00:28:53 I tried to make some kind of metaphor work corn yeah you got to eat because you can't just eat it you got to grow it yeah I don't know I think I I'm a quarter native and I think I got real feisty about I don't know what I was doing and I go It's a long pause, and he's staring, and I go, do I like corn? And he goes, and he goes, yeah. On the cob, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And I just go, love corn. And then it's like cut. And it's in the interview. Y'all should go watch it. You DJed for Chapal Rhone in Los Angeles? I did. I sure did. We have crossover audience, if you can believe it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yes. You know, she was backstage with me And, you know, she, I'll tell you what, she treats the, and this show treats us very good too, but her show treats the drag queen's like, oh my God, like, I had a yurt, an outdoor yurt with, like, couches and whatever I wanted. Did we not have the yurt that we,
Starting point is 00:29:48 we don't have the yurt? Kennedy, what the fuck? We said yurt. I know. You know what a yurt is. I want to fly private from Hollywood. Okay. And she, you know, I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I'm like six feet out of drag and she's, Yes, but she's actually like here, right? And, you know, I've been in support of her for a long time. And I said, you know, you're living a lot of lesbian's fantasies right now, having your face in my boobs. And then I was like, come to think of it. I think I'm living a lot of lesbianist fantasies by having my boobs in your face.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And we just kind of laughed, and then I went and did the show. She's such a talented performer. She's gifted, oh, my God, she really ate, girl. She really ate. She really ate. Basically throwing your own mini music festival in Pasadena, sold out both nights. Fierce. You know who else was there?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Betsy Johnson? Wow. She was there. And you know, I always say she looks like Katia. But I've never seen her in person. And she walked in and I was with a friend and I said, look, Katia's here. And he was like, yeah, she looks good. I was like, that's not her.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Because they look so alike. The little Bob with the red lip. And yeah, she looked great though. But you know, oh my God. One time, I was at the Out 100 last year and I was DJing the event. So I was in the green room. and that's where they put the fancy people, you know, and Cynthia Riva was there.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And, oh, my God, this is a two-part story. Do you remember the lady who interviewed them who was, like, holding space? Remember her? She and I are standing outside the green room, and they, like, I'm in drag, and she's her. And they're like, sorry, we don't know. And I said, you guys let her in.
Starting point is 00:31:16 She's in queer media. And she goes like, oh, hi, Truxie. Because at the time, remember, she was like, I'm in queer media. Love that. But then I saw Cynthia Rue backstage, and she was so nice because she loves drag, of course, right?
Starting point is 00:31:28 She's sparkling all over herself. and she comes up and I go you're gonna have a great year what the fuck does that mean you're in Wicked yeah you're gonna have but I was trying to say like
Starting point is 00:31:41 congrats on your success but I said you're gonna have a great year like she's my like I'm sending her yearbook what is that then what so then I just like froze and I like was in the car
Starting point is 00:31:52 on the way home like you're gonna have a great year to Elfaba great it's so um it's also it's obviously nothing what you said. It's nothing. But it's also
Starting point is 00:32:03 kind of has a cockiness to it. Like Cynthia Revo arrived at the Out 100 who's like I'm not sure how next year's going to go. Oh, I know. I know. Yeah, she knows she's going to have a great year. I know. She knew that already. What I should have said is congrats on your success. That's what I were going to meant. You're going to have a great year.
Starting point is 00:32:19 What? You can have a great year. Kathy Griffin has a line, which is that if you say to congrats to anyone in Los Angeles, even a stranger on the street, they don't say what for. They say thank you because they're all in their mind about having an amazing, amazing moment. Everyone's always in their moment
Starting point is 00:32:35 and I always love that. Completely. And I trust her because she wears wigs. I was at her house and she has a wig wall like a drag queen. I said, you better fucking work, bitch. Because think about it, these girls who tour comedy, why wouldn't you have a wig of your hair?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Why are you styling your own hair every day? Why am I doing it? Why aren't you doing it? We could get you a unit. I was with Brittany Broski today and I was like, you should get a wig of your hair. Like, why are you, you know, we had that women's Hollywood event that was at the Red Carper
Starting point is 00:33:02 was at 8 a.m. this week. I said, girl, don't you wish you could roll out bed and just like, you know? Because these real girls sit in this chair and they burn your fucking hair. I want to get a wig. What kind of wig do you want? This more. This, this hair? Yeah. Oh. Well, I just... But you know you can do anything, right?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah. I just kidding. Like, I'm in a position to make fun of men's hair, right? No, no, I receive what you're saying, and I should think about it. What could I be? I don't know. I don't know, because all I've been doing is fighting a war against this. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Trying to make this what it could be. I love your curly, not imagining anything else that could be in its stead. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Well, you could have a... Men's wigs are a little harder to pull off in a convincing way. I mean, watch a Netflix movie. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Katty and I do that show I like to watch. And we regularly are sitting on that couch watching these Hollywood million billion dollar budget movies who don't have as good of airlines as us and I'm always like Bueller like is any is this thing on there's also stuff where they when you update it to the 4K oh they can't handle it people can't handle
Starting point is 00:34:09 all this 4K I think that they shot hunting wives on a VHS from 1980 because when I sat on my little couch spoiler alert Katina recently got to watch that and they pulled up hunting wives this lesbian legacy program it's really that if these walls could
Starting point is 00:34:25 talk with guns right love it when these bitches rolled out with their Hollywood toy and costume hard front wigs on and I'm a deep I love Malin Ackerman so much because I love Watchman I love the comeback
Starting point is 00:34:40 and I love that movie Final Girls and I just saw her at the Emmys and I was like you don't know me and I know you like I'm so free and you're gonna have a great year you're gonna have a great year
Starting point is 00:34:50 no you're gonna have a great year you're gonna have a great year oh fuck oh the comeback coming back. I know. I know. I know. I know. You want to talk holding space, bitch. I believe, I believe that that second to last episode of the first season with the cupcake is one of the best episodes in the history of television. Yeah, it is. They didn't let her
Starting point is 00:35:13 be in the picture. Okay. I have something else I want to talk to you about. Okay, sorry, we just scream, but you guys are gay, you know. They're fine. They can handle it. I saw this TikTok that was like, being gay means you can enter any room and just scream something and everyone cheers. People walk and they're like spin dip and they're like woo you know it is a fun part of it yeah the only fun part uh so uh you filmed a video when you redecorated your home in los angeles yes and i started watching it i was just interested and uh there was somebody's not interested don't apologize uh so i saw this and oh wow this is beautiful
Starting point is 00:35:55 let's go to the first picture And I thought, wow, I love this. And I was going to ask you because so much of what happens now is everyone makes, like the fancy people make their house gray and they remove all the color. And it's all whites and grays. It's like, you know, like Salt Lake City, Real Housewives chic where it's just like only white, only beige, only gray. And it's like a maximalist. Yeah, the rich people in L.A., the real rich people, their homes are like Tau Monk temples. Like it's really like nothing's on the counter.
Starting point is 00:36:25 you cannot find the fridge because it's disguised as a wall. I always, it always struck me that, you know, Ellen DeGeneres was this like happy go lucky, fun, freewheeling comics on this colorful set, dancing around for 20 years. And with that money, she seems to have bought several mausoleums throughout the city. It's fierce. These cement spaces empty of color and life. But you'd made this beautiful, colorful home, and I thought that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I just, I just, everybody always talks about decorating for resale value. And I'm like, fuck those people, they don't live here. Do you know what I mean? Like, you live here. This is your life. You can be dead tomorrow. Paint the wall pink. And so this is a peacock that was shipped from the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And they drove it across the state so it wouldn't break. And look, it's a peacock with trixie eyes. Now you don't have to be crazy. I love that. But I just love color. And I love maximalism. I love texture. I want you to walk in my house and go,
Starting point is 00:37:16 that bitch in a wig lives here. And I want you to know something. The reason I brought this up is because I had an experience today when I was watching this video. Which, can we go to the next one? See that chair right there? What's up? I have that chair. You like it?
Starting point is 00:37:31 I do like. It's very comfortable. Comfortable? It's my dining room table chairs. I have the exact same chairs. I know where you got them. I have that chair. And I thought, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Next slide. What? I have these cups. No, you don't. I have these cups. I have these cups. I have this shirt. I have this shirt.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Next slide. This is single white female. You know that? I know where you got these plates. insane the double j oh don't talk about it don't talk about it
Starting point is 00:38:01 and and I really considered it honestly they're they're really cunty and they were but they America whatever shoot me in the eye bitch I got convinced into buying these
Starting point is 00:38:10 they're too expensive they're also not dishwasher safe they've been used once I know because I'm lying I bought them and you can't wash them you just don't use them you just don't use them
Starting point is 00:38:20 because they're they cost as much as like going to the dentist and you can't put them in the fucking dishwasher. No, and I'm from a family where my grandma would put, like, the McDonald's straws in dishwasher, she'd be like, we're gonna, you with these. You know, like, I love that. Next slide. You do not have... Have this. No, you
Starting point is 00:38:34 don't. Yes. Why you're so obsessed with me. Have this. Next slide. No, you don't. Have this. You do not have this. I swear to fucking God, I have this. Oh, vintage Marano glass. Oh, vintage Marano glass.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I do. I have that. I have that. I have that. I have that. Slide. I have this bed. No, you don't. You're a lot. I swear you, fucking God. I swear to you fucking God.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I sleep on the same bed every goddamn night. You and I tonight will go back to our separate homes and we will be sleeping in the same bed. But you know what? I covered the fabric of a different color. The same way you did. I have a gold. Oh. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's nice. That's right. And it is shockingly expensive. And I don't want to talk about it. Did you feel, did you feel, um, You know, can I be honest? When I did this, it was for television. The network does cover about half.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Fuck you! So, you know, I don't actually remember how much a lot of this stuff was because the net, but, you know, do you like this bed? I like it. It's super comfortable. It's wonderful. But isn't that strange? I'm so genuinely creeped out right now. Wait.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Like, I saw paranormal activity here in L.A. two nights ago. That did not even touch this moment. The fact that you are not wearing my skin. I literally this afternoon. when I was watching this video, I was supposed to be working on other parts of the show, and I was sitting with Hallie and with Sarah Lazarus, there are two incredible writers,
Starting point is 00:40:03 and I just said saying, no. Next slide. You're kidding. There's not more. There can't be. I don't think there are. There was one more. What if he's like, your man, fucked him.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, what, where does it end? He's like, I'm taking your car home. And by the way, like, I might have missed things. Like, I was watching as close as they could, but I'm not a forensic scientist. I'm coming over. There's something really strange. happening because these are not normal these are not like we found strange things to put in our homes i
Starting point is 00:40:30 maybe you know what it is maybe we really thought it we thought we were pick me special girls i guess we're just pittress faggots god damn it i don't know i thought i was special i thought i was unique when did you decorate 2022 23 that's when i did this fuck so i guess we all got the same fucking catalogs and we all thought we were so special isn't that sad gay people are supposed to be so creative and we're like i'll take that bad like The most creative of our species, and all we can come up with is the fuck is the same two plates. And we're so proud of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Oh, like, didn't you go to the end of the internet looking for stuff? Oh, yeah. How many tabs did you have open until we both land on the same goddamn fucking chargers? It's sad. It's a little sad. But I do love the house, and it's, um... It's beautiful. Love it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Love it. Honestly, I feel like I've been there. Yeah. Last thing, I'll be remiss if I didn't ask you about Drag Grace season 18, which premieres on January 2nd. They've just announced the Queens on Tuesday. We're still in the pre-season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:24 The queen never worries about the cards stacked at the bottom. That's awful. Wow. That's awful. I just thought it was funny. It is funny. And it was. And the beautiful part of it is it was.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Anybody's standing out, anybody you're thinking about anything excited about? This is the truth. The way I could never. The way me and Katya, I'm going to speak for it to, the way we could never, the way each of these horrors would eviscerate us in, like, disintegrate us. We don't have great personal style. We don't have the contacts to these ton of costumes. We don't have
Starting point is 00:42:00 the will. We don't have the budget. We're not interested. We're happy to sit on chairs on a green screen and scream. But I just want to say, as much as we all love drag race, the quality of what these whores do now is so beguiling and bedazzling.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I encourage all of you who sit home with an Amazon Prime membership and the ability to get a wig by Monday. I encourage you all to hold your breath in before you say I could do that because, bitch, you can never. Yeah, I can never. I love Potta of America. I never sit there and go, I know more than, like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I know my place. I nod, I learn, and I go home. And that's what I encourage you guys to do. This isn't my analogy, but someone noted that the way all straight men believe in their bones that they could land a 747 is the way, is the same way all gay men believe without reason. that they would win drag race. It's not my observation, but I think it holds.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Like, on some level, they're just like, my raw charisma would carry me through. Even though I can't sew, never put on makeup, don't do drag, can't sing, can't lip sync. I think I could take it. I mean, that's what I did. I did. I was admitted all those things.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But I will say, I always say that drag race is won in the interview chair. You can't win without a good interviews. And a lot of these girls, let's just say, They're not exactly personality hires. So I will say, I encourage people to stretch it, but you don't have to be the best at everything. You just have to, you have to be delusional. The people who win are always, they all go out there,
Starting point is 00:43:36 and they look RuPaul right in the eye, and they go, aren't I everything? And that's like, who wants to go to a drag show where someone's like, am I okay? Like, no. Yeah, they come here for that. Yeah. For real.
Starting point is 00:43:47 No, I think they all look amazing. This promo's amazing. We all do not deserve to be alive at the same time as RuPaul. is, I really feel that. We're going to lose her someday and we're all going to be like, that was the best fucking thing we could have ever had in our lives.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Like, she's the best. Someone gasped in the audience, like they didn't know time moves forward. I'm not saying she's in danger. I'm just saying, we're all going to die. And that's a great place to leave it. Trixie Mattel, thank you so much. Trixie's going to stick around.
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Starting point is 00:45:40 A Parnan-Churla. Hi. Hi. Given all the challenge, the LGBT community faces under the second Trump administration, we thought it was only right that we have an open dialogue
Starting point is 00:45:56 about which holiday characters are gay or not in a segment we're calling, go down that chimney, bitch. Oh. Come on. Whoa. For those of you who forgot
Starting point is 00:46:07 about Dr. Alfred Kinsey's heterosexual homosexual rating scale as it was called when it was first published in sexual behavior in the human male, the scale goes from zero, which is insane, to six, which is exclusively homosexual.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Six is the gayest. And zero is super straight. No gain is inside of you. Okay. But would you like some? All right, the rating. Here we go. First up, we have Buddy the elf from Elf, directed by the other John Favre.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Now, yes, we know Buddy ends up with Zoe Des Chappelle at the end of the film. But, let's see, as a couple. compulsory heterosexuality energy. You know what I mean? A comp hat vibe. Okay. Okay. I don't know. I'm sensing kind of higher on the Kinsey scale. Just this, this energy to me is reading fabulosity.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I mean, it's like depending how much you measure gay. Like, because having, I know I've been with a lot of guys who are not gay. They don't identify as gay, but they sure do love that sex with me. So I think he might I think he might be the opposite Where he is fucking girls But everything else is gay You know?
Starting point is 00:47:25 Right, right, right, that's interesting He is gay But he has this girlfriend That he does have sex with And he doesn't have sex with men But he goes to like, you know He goes to Chapel Rona at Pasadena Like he's there
Starting point is 00:47:35 Does drag act like a gateway drug For men that want to have sex with men For you? Like has that happened in your past Where like the drag got They're not gay But the drag is the door Is the door through which they walk?
Starting point is 00:47:48 No, I would say that if they're attracted me in drag, usually most of their life, they're with women and they're attracted to femininity. Huh. Yeah. Interesting. What do you think? Three?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Are we saying three? What do you think, Ralph? Three for El. Yeah, I would say three. Let's set that as the baseline. I love that holiday movie. You know, I do too. I do, Ed Asner's so good, Annette.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Remember Ed Asner? Yeah. He died, too. I just watched this game. He went up. He went up. I just watched this holiday movie called The Happiest Season, this lesbian movie. Have you guys seen this?
Starting point is 00:48:27 I love that movie. I had no idea it was going to be so good. I was crying. It was amazing. It was amazing. It was not only the best, one of the best Christians have I've ever seen. It was one of the best games I've ever seen. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:37 It was amazing. Everybody go watch it. I do think it's funny that you bring home your roommate, Kristen Stewart, and your mom's not sure that you're gay. Kristen Stewart's has like You know that lesbian thing Where it's like Trey Parker's hair with two hair clips? Yeah And then she's in like a suit
Starting point is 00:48:52 And she's like I'm a roommate I'm like girl You know what I mean It's like the bird cage I'm like girl you know I don't know how I ever could have made it In the roommate era You know I don't think I could have done it
Starting point is 00:49:02 The like this is my roommate I don't think I had the I think I just would have been an outcast Not to go into the woods Not because I'm like brave I'm just like not capable of that kind of discipline You know of like pretending I don't know how they did it
Starting point is 00:49:15 I also never think I don't know I'd never live a life where I'm like I brought my roommate as my plus one Yeah I'm trying to get away from that bitch
Starting point is 00:49:24 She's at home You know what I mean? I don't need I need a break from this person Yeah Next up we have the Grinch From the original 1966 the Grinch who stole Christmas
Starting point is 00:49:34 Do we think the Grinch is non-binary perhaps The Grinch's pronouns are they then I'm saying six Six? You think this is just a gay? 100% gay. I'm stuck because, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:50 outing people's an act of violence in 2025. And so I don't know. You know, back in my day, like, Kathy Griffin would just call Ryan Seagrots a bag. Like, we can't do that anymore. But now we can't do that. So I'm going to say they have an incredible table setting. And they might have the same bed as you and I.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Confirm Bachelor of the Grinch. Yes. The Grinch has not been able to keep a table. lady they're pounding at his door and yet he hasn't been able to settle on the one just yet will there be a lady for the grinch only time we'll tell because this bachelor is eligible confirmed eligible yes i think he went to kochella and was carried out of charlie xx on a stretcher party too hard party too hard the snow so i think you're saying six the snowman from the classic raymond briggs children's book the snowman gender really is what a when you're
Starting point is 00:50:43 a snowman gender is the scarf and hat you put on you switch the hat change the gender that's the beauty of the snow people it's becoming prices right a little bit i know i was gonna say i know i was like they're really invested in our winning i think it's a zero i think this is like nick offerman yes he's a libertarian probably yeah you know what i mean but yeah i think this is where you start on the scale yeah that's zero that is all heterosexual energy do you see that Netflix movie where the snowman becomes the hot guy from ship creek yes I did. I work at Netflix.
Starting point is 00:51:15 We watch all the premium programming. Hot frosty? Hot frosty. Hot frosty. Hot frosty. That's what they called it. Hot frosty. I guess it's the joke about frosty being cold.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yes. Yes. Jonathan Bennett is in 12 holiday movies. I looked it up online. He's the romantic interest. And sometimes it's men, sometimes it's women is all over the place. I watched a chunk of,
Starting point is 00:51:36 I did not make it all the way through hot frosty. I'll be honest. I don't work in Netflix. But it's part of you. your deal. Can you not criticize these films? Are you kidding? I think we're getting fired every day. We rip into these movies so bad. When we first started that job, I thought like, we're not, we're done. They're not come back tomorrow. And they love, they love when we make fun of it. Great. I love that. But that means when we like a movie, you know it's good.
Starting point is 00:52:00 That's good. I like that. We don't ever be like, we love this, you know. Here is my issue with the film Hot Frosty, and I do think it's important. We talk about it. Usually in a holiday film, when something magical happens, there's some kind of motivation for it. Like, you know, the child is alone and has been treated poorly and wishes one last time to see the thing, something of that sort, where there's a real deserving reason. But in that film, the Snowman just wakes up one morning. You know what I mean? No, but Lacey Chabair has a leak in her house. But it's like...
Starting point is 00:52:35 And she's barely making her mortgage payments, John? But, but like, it seems to be that just like she deserves. the magic because she's just single. She's a single lady. And in the world of this movie, that is such a horrible thing that the magic of the universe is conveyed upon this snowman so that
Starting point is 00:52:55 she can find happiness. But there's probably other single gals in the town as well and they don't get their own hot snowmen from Schitt's Creek. I will say in these holiday movies, the worst thing as a woman you can be is like single. Yeah. And also her husband died so she's walking around
Starting point is 00:53:11 an open wound of grief. Oh. And only a snowman can fill that hole. Okay. I I sometimes you got to fuck a snowman. This is what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Why have two balls when you can have three? Hey, is that a carrot for a nose or are you happy to see me? Next up, old man Marley from home alone. Well. Come on. Girl, at the eagle?
Starting point is 00:53:45 For sure. She's the day shift at the eagle, honey. A strange from his kids. Why? Why? Because he left their mom for who? Whoever, you know, at the eagle. One of those, like, older downtown gays who wears the cockering full-time.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Do you know what I'm talking about? Wow. And the nipples are, like, big and round distended. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Right? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 It sold me. Like truly a DJing Barracuda. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, the boy, DJing the boys' events, for sure. Ospanhoff, DJing Ospenhoff for sure. This is a fag.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, we're sure of it. It's a six. It's a six. Next up, the pigeon lady from home alone two lost in New York. What does no mean? She's like a, she's like a, well, in the movie,
Starting point is 00:54:36 she talks about her great love, but I don't think she said it was a guy. I think she's like a, this is a seven. Yeah, yeah. I see. Liking birds is gay, first of all. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Straight people have dogs and cats. Gay people are like, I want a winged creature with razor beaks flying on my home, you know? Yes, and there's just something about the, the energy of the clothes. The kind of, because there's like kind of, I think, like, you know, there's the kind of flannel style stereotypical gay lady. But then there's also the more kind of New England college, a lot of fabric. many fabrics, like unclear where shirts end and other shirts begin, layers, things, and
Starting point is 00:55:19 there's a lot of this, you know, things going over the shoulder. This is like a Cape Cod lesbian or something. Yeah, yeah. It's like this person has been to Rachel Maddow's house. 100%. Like there's an entire course just on unpacking her at Smith. Yeah, right. Yeah. She's a type of, I mean, I lived in Provincetown for a while
Starting point is 00:55:37 and the Cape Cod lesbians are like the crew members of the Black Pearl. They're very... That's true. grizzled in and she she's just so sweet though I love this character I would watch a whole one-woman show about like what happened to her and I bet it's like wicked we're like Kevin ruined her life you think like she's the
Starting point is 00:55:54 she's the good person and Kevin McAllister trying to be like savior fucked her life up you know yeah she didn't need his help she didn't need his help no she was doing fine not to mention he meets her at the end of the movie she still lives outside he goes here's your ornament I'm going back up to the giant hotel with my family and all our gifts.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Stay warm, bitch. Forward any correspondence to the plaza. Right. Oh, my God, the Donald Trump cameo. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it happened. It happened. Simpler time.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Simpler time. Shit. He was just some guy. Next up, Martha May, Hoovier. Martha May, Huvier, in the 2000 Jim Carrey version of the Grinch. It's played by Christine Baranski. I think she's that girl who's like, oh my God, I love gay guys. If I was a gay guy, I'd be so happy.
Starting point is 00:56:47 But she's straight, I think. Yeah. She's like, the boozy gal with the gays at brunch. She's like, I fucking love you faggots. You know, that's her. I love that scene where she's shooting the Christmas lights. But that, Molly Shannon is like so goop. She's like, ah, because she's jealous.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Do you remember that? I haven't seen this long. Oh, girl, it's so good. It is so good. Jim Carrey becomes the Grinch. wait you make it sound like through the film Jim Carrey gets transformed
Starting point is 00:57:15 like the fly yeah it is it's very much like Jeff Goldblum in the fly it's a gradual you know what this is a thing they gotta stop blowing up
Starting point is 00:57:24 these boats in the Caribbean because cocaine made movies like the fly possible you can't you know what I'm saying that was a leap and I hear it no I get it I get that
Starting point is 00:57:36 when I'm trying to write something I'm like how did Stephen King do it. I'm like, drugs. He's been open about it. I'm like, drugs, help. Yeah, drugs. Stephen King and Aaron Sorkin have this in common, which is they were prolific while doing a ton of drugs, and then directors would
Starting point is 00:57:52 take 900-page things and say, oh, we're not doing this whole movie about the evil turtles. We're just going to do this. You know what I mean? Like, this is an 800-page script. We're going to make American president, you can take the rest of these pages and do whatever you want. He's like, oh, make the West Wing. You know what I mean? I love that. Which I think is. cool. It's cool to be prolific.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I love her. She's so great. I love this. This movie really is so good. All right. Finally, we have crampus. Oh. St. Nicholas's dark doppelganger sent to punish naughty children with Birch Rods. According to European Vogue, he also co-starred in a titular
Starting point is 00:58:24 2025 horror movie alongside Tony Collette and past Lover to leave a guest, Adam Scott and Allison Tolman. Crampus? Ten. Ten. Homophobe. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Ten. Megan Kelly calling out a 10 from the crowd. That was Lauren Boberts smoking over there in a theater. That's what that was. Yeah. Lauren Boberts, give it a handy. Give it a handy of beetle juice. Why is this a 10? Why is that gay?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Why is the evil Santa gay? Huh? What have you internalized? I agree. That's a gay man, but still. I think it's gay. I think it's gay to be like, I'm going to fuck with these kids. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:05 It's gay. Those aren't his kids. He doesn't have kids. Right. He's unmarried. He's obviously off on Christmas. He has no family. Yeah, there is something about...
Starting point is 00:59:13 There's a reason why gay bars are open on December 25th. Yeah, there is something about the crampus that has the kind of energy of when gay guys are around kids and they don't know what to do. And they're just sort of like, do you... I guess you can't drink soda and bitters, you know, that kind of a thing. But I also feel like the kids love him. They're like, oh, his uncle crampus coming?
Starting point is 00:59:36 I think it is like, don't you think for them it's like a fun thing? thing, right? Yeah. Ooh, cramp. It's like, I don't think they're genuinely scared of crampus, right? I think it's like all part of the show. Besides, kids think that they're not naughty. So they're like, he's not coming here, no fucking awful they are.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids have no self-awareness. Yeah. Some adults, too. And that's the segment. And that's, what do we call it? Oh, yeah. Go down my chimney, bitch.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Go down my chimney, bitch. Jimny. Aparna, your special Hopeful Potato is out on December 15th on the dropout. On dropout. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Thank you. And Trixie's holiday specials on YouTube. Oh.
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Starting point is 01:02:48 all right it's holiday shopping season and we'd love it or leave it wanted to offer something different than the boring gift guides flooding your feed so my guest and I've reached deep into our gifting cavity
Starting point is 01:02:57 to pull out our best and brightest ideas for your friends, enemies and everyone in between in a segment we're calling love it or re-gifted Oh okay Sure, why not?
Starting point is 01:03:10 First up, A partner, I know you had a gift suggestion. I did. I have a gift suggestion of something called a sit-bit. It's like a fit bit, but it reminds you to make sure you're sitting enough
Starting point is 01:03:23 to honor your seasonal depression. Yeah, like get your out. Yeah, like you alert. You've only sat for two to three hours today. Are you okay? And how much of that time was just looking into a wall or in the middle distance. So you're walking, you're on the middle of a six-mile hike and your phone beeps and says, don't you think it's time you sit down?
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah, yeah. It's too much. What happens if you're sitting and then you get up? What does it say? It says, uh-oh, you're expressing a will to live. Oh, partner, you've been on the road. You've been on the road for this, ahead of the new special. any airport low lights lately oh airport low lights dang i feel like i block them all out because i feel
Starting point is 01:04:15 like most airports i'm just in a catatonic state um but yeah one time a person put a not this was on the plane but someone put their bare foot into my seed area and i so that's not your thing no and she wanted it in them yeah i was like it's like i A little higher, please. Yeah. I can't get there. That's awful. No, I mean.
Starting point is 01:04:39 What did you do? I, nothing. I just, I think I tweeted about it, you know. You did all you could. Yeah. You did all you could. I think I, yeah, I tweeted at the airline. Now, I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Sit bit. All right, Trixie, you have a gift idea. We have, I think, two we can go to from you. Let's see, let's see what the first one was. This was, well, this one, well. So, she went. kind of, she went kind of a different direction than I did.
Starting point is 01:05:08 So, you know, it is cupping season and, you know, ethical non-monogamy is running rampant in our community and that's completely fine. But, for those of us who are monogamous, this is a great way to get people go beyond, I do. It's also, well, you can't.
Starting point is 01:05:25 You know, you go to bed knowing, like, he's going to be with you because if he ever wants to pee again, you have the key. And I actually photoshop that little diamond on there. That's beautiful. And this says, I do crew. I'm in the I do
Starting point is 01:05:41 crew. This is the I do crew because you'd can't. Yeah. I just thought it was kind of fun. I like it. I kind of thought people would laugh more. It's a beautiful, beautiful piece of jewelry. It's a little small. What do you do? I was, well, I was like, what do you do with all the extra space towards the front?
Starting point is 01:06:02 I was going to go the other way with it. I was going the other way with it. It's for snacks. I have one. I'll do one next. Okay. I'll do one next. And I remember what they were.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Oh, my God. Wait, I had two. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is it. You made a graphic. Thank you. These are, you bring a stack of these,
Starting point is 01:06:23 and they're called get out of convo free cards. Okay. And when you show up for the holidays with all your family, you hand them out at the beginning of the event. Everybody gets a couple. Okay. There's some that say get out of Convo, free some say one free conversation topic change for example and then you know what the rule is everybody
Starting point is 01:06:42 agrees in advance that if you use the card no one can be mad so someone's like whoa i guess you think it's good that drugs are coming into the country you just hand them the card and you walk away and you're good and you're good but if you're at the table and you can't leave and someone's like i don't know i mean like I've been I've been I think RFK sometimes gets a short shift you just someone's like you must persuade them no you throw the card down that says topic change and you're just like
Starting point is 01:07:10 has anybody been watching pluribus right you know but by the way by the way has anybody when watching pluribus that's got to be your go-to because it just gets the people talking yeah you know it gets some chatting right
Starting point is 01:07:26 and so that was my first idea oh and a partner you had a you had another idea. I think it was similar to that. Well, this was, this was, oh, that was, oh, that was Oh, yeah. I was, I was, I was,
Starting point is 01:07:40 I was, I was really, I was really feeling my, uh, so this is called the quit bit. This is called the quit bit. And now what the quipit is going to do is when you try to join a gym, it says, you're not going to go. You better not.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yeah. So don't do it. So it's, it's, it's a, more simple tool, but it's really any time you try to join a gym, it says, uh-uh. I love that. I love that. It stops you before you make a mistake.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Because it's so hard to get out of gym membership. I feel like even if you're dead, they won't let you out. Planet Fitness, you have to send a handwritten letter to the gym you signed up at. Yes. Like the covered wagons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:25 A handwritten letter. So I, because I've never successfully been able to actually go. to a gym, I can really only do classes because if I go to a gym and there's no one telling me specifically what to do, I'm just in a different room listening to the book I was listening to on my car, you know, but now I've paid month to wander around this space and just feel a little bit like I can't too close, too much, I get a Celsius, I get two Tutsi rolls and watch Charmed.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Because Planet Fitness always has charmed. That's so nice. That's so nice. I will say that the programming at gyms is eye-opening. Yeah. They always have news. All different kinds. All different kinds.
Starting point is 01:09:08 My gym is always playing a food network holiday baking show, and it's always Halloween year-round. Wait, Trixie, you had one more pitch. You had one more idea. I did. This one is a little different as well. So this is a sham-wow makeup bite for the girls in your life who need 17. or 18 wipes per eye, like I do. So this is kind of, that's,
Starting point is 01:09:32 that's, I think he's, he might be dead. No, I think he's, no, he's not, he's not, he didn't die. Didn't he fucking, what a, what a crazy explanation. You're confusing. He's death and running for Congress. He's having a, yeah, yeah, same thing. But I think he, let's just say when I Google this image, a lot of other pictures of him doing less well showed up.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yes, I think things are not good. Yes. But I think he's with the living. Right. And this is the sham wow. And I just thought like a makeup white. that really could go to town if somebody wears makeup, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:02 That could be huge. You must go through them. Yeah. It's been, there's a landfill in hell with my name on it, for sure. Like, for sure. I got to think, too, like, they haven't invented a good hairspray that's not aerosol for drag queens too.
Starting point is 01:10:14 So I'm like too woke that when I spray it, I'm like, no. I bet you could sell those used. People do. Tammy Brown does this, and she frames them and sells them. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Wow. That's using the whole buffalo, you know, in a sense. Next, oh, here's my last one. It's called Re-Santa. Basically, somebody comes into your house while you're sleeping and they go into your closet and they take clothes you own and have not worn in the last year, though when you bought them, you swore you would and wraps them up like a gift and leaves them under your tree because then you open it and it's like you're starting a Again, it's back. Try again. Because sometimes, like, you don't wear it and then it falls to the bottom of the drawer or just inertia. It's just not what you go to. But maybe if it came back out
Starting point is 01:11:08 and came back to the front, all gifted, you'd be like, why don't I wear this? And then, boom, it's in the rotation. For sure. But don't you guys have clothing where it's like you wouldn't never wear it but just the idea that you own it
Starting point is 01:11:21 gives you a little pep in your step? Sure. I only have that. And that's our show. A part of Nancherla, Chixie Mattel. We'll see you next week at Dynasty. There are 332 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend.
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