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Episode Date: August 16, 2025Donald Trump calls up the National Guard to avenge Big Balls, Pam Bondi furtively Googles “how to lead police department,” and D.C. residents finally feel safe on the cobblestone streets of George...town. Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass stops by to call bullshit on the Trump administration. Tom Papa and Ron Funches join us to choke down the week’s news with a side of mayonnaise, then it’s time to spin the Rant Wheel into gold.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at crookedcon.comMore upcoming shows: crooked.com/events
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                                        What's up in Los Angeles.
                                         
                                        Welcome to Love It or Leave it live it live it live in.
                                         
                                        We have got a great show for you tonight.
                                         
                                        Mayor Karen Bass is here, and she's going to talk about leading the city of angels.
                                         
                                        while the White House goes demon mode.
                                         
                                        Then Ron Funches and Tom Papa take the stage
                                         
    
                                        to take on the news.
                                         
                                        And at the end, we say goodbye with a spin of the rant wheel.
                                         
                                        But first, let's get into it.
                                         
                                        What a week.
                                         
                                        On Monday, Paramount announced that it has struck
                                         
                                        a $7.7 billion deal to stream UFC fights.
                                         
                                        It will be available to all subscribers
                                         
                                        on Paramount Plus punching.
                                         
    
                                        You may recall that Dana White, the president and CEO of UFC, has a decades-long friendship with Trump,
                                         
                                        which made him the best person to introduce him at the Republican convention last year.
                                         
                                        Well, second best, Jeffrey Epstein was tied up.
                                         
                                        Maybe.
                                         
                                        This follows Paramount paying Trump's $16 million to settle a frivolous lawsuit over 60 minutes,
                                         
                                        and CBS owned by Paramount, canceling the late show with Stephen Colbert after Colbert called the settlement a bribe.
                                         
                                        bribes are like magic tricks or bumps of coke.
                                         
                                        People who do them hate it when you tell everyone about it after.
                                         
    
                                        And the bribe worked.
                                         
                                        The Trump administration approved a merger between Paramount and Skydance.
                                         
                                        And not only did Paramount land a new partnership with UFC,
                                         
                                        UFC will also stage a fight at the White House
                                         
                                        to celebrate the semi-quincentennial.
                                         
                                        It is definitely going to happen.
                                         
                                        I talked to him last night, him being the president.
                                         
                                        July 4th, 250th birthday of the United States of America,
                                         
    
                                        Live on CBS from the White House.
                                         
                                        Straight from the Gazprom Team Mobile ballroom slash arena.
                                         
                                        Dana, it's President Trump.
                                         
                                        I'm so excited for this UFC fight.
                                         
                                        It's going to be amazing when I release the Lions.
                                         
                                        The ratings are going to be huge.
                                         
                                        It all fits.
                                         
                                        A UFC fight on the White House lawn on America's 250th birthday.
                                         
    
                                        It's the perfect embodiment of the two great engines of Trump's political life,
                                         
                                        corruption and stunts.
                                         
                                        That and the fact that we replaced.
                                         
                                        newspapers with nothing.
                                         
                                        In the stunt department,
                                         
                                        Trump announced after an attempted carjacking
                                         
                                        against the former Doge staffer known as Big Balls
                                         
                                        that he would deploy the National Guard to Washington, D.C.,
                                         
    
                                        and put Attorney General Pam Bondi in charge of D.C.'s
                                         
                                        Police Department.
                                         
                                        Our capital city has been overtaken by violent gangs
                                         
                                        and bloodthirsty criminals, roving mobs of wild youth,
                                         
                                        drugged out maniacs and homeless people.
                                         
                                        Look, I hear you on the roving mobs of wild youth.
                                         
                                        But there are always going to be eighth grade field trips in D.C.
                                         
                                        That's just part of it.
                                         
    
                                        Trump, the same Trump, who pardoned January 6 rioters,
                                         
                                        convicting of assaulting police officers,
                                         
                                        and whose senior advisor at the Justice Department,
                                         
                                        shouted to kill cops at the insurrection,
                                         
                                        had this threat for anyone who disrespects the police.
                                         
                                        They love to spit in the face of the police
                                         
                                        as the police are standing up there in uniform.
                                         
                                        They're standing, and they're screaming at them,
                                         
    
                                        an inch away from their face.
                                         
                                        and then they start spitting in their face
                                         
                                        and I said you tell them
                                         
                                        you spit and we hit
                                         
                                        and then what?
                                         
                                        What happens next after we spit
                                         
                                        they hit face to face?
                                         
                                        What happens next when it gets rough?
                                         
    
                                        Trump also demanded that homeless people
                                         
                                        leave the city or face fines and jail time
                                         
                                        the jig is up boys said DC's homeless
                                         
                                        finally returning to their homes
                                         
                                        Washington mayor Muriel Bowser called Trump's deployment of the National Guard
                                         
                                        unsettling and unprecedented,
                                         
                                        though without statehood there wasn't much D.C. could do to stop it.
                                         
                                        Meanwhile, the city's violent crime rates hit a 30-year low last year,
                                         
    
                                        and D.C. doesn't even crack the top 30 cities when it comes to having the highest crime,
                                         
                                        a list that obviously includes many cities in red states.
                                         
                                        Red states have plenty of violent crime.
                                         
                                        It's not called no country for woke men.
                                         
                                        Nevertheless, Trump and his allies are eager to take this show on the road.
                                         
                                        Here's House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer.
                                         
                                        We're going to support doing this in other cities if it works out in Washington, D.C.
                                         
                                        And again, it's unfortunate, but we spend a lot on our military.
                                         
    
                                        Our military has been in many countries around the world for the past two decades,
                                         
                                        walking the streets, trying to reduce crime in other countries.
                                         
                                        We need to focus on the big cities in America now, and that's what the president's doing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, why does Kandahar get to have all the fun?
                                         
                                        I believe it was Rupal who said,
                                         
                                        if you can't deploy the military to occupy yourself,
                                         
                                        how in the hell are you going to occupy somebody else?
                                         
                                        As Trump threatened to deploy the military to other cities in blue states,
                                         
    
                                        including Los Angeles,
                                         
                                        the Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has plans
                                         
                                        for a National Guard reaction force,
                                         
                                        which would dispatch hundreds of troops into cities
                                         
                                        to respond to protest and civil unrest.
                                         
                                        The troops are already training for their special assignment,
                                         
                                        practicing such maneuvers as extinguishing whamow fires and
                                         
                                        Waymo CPR and breaking the bad news to a Waymo's wife.
                                         
    
                                        According to Axios, the whole D.C. plan came together hastily
                                         
                                        after Trump, quote, saw a report on Fox about how bad it was in D.C.
                                         
                                        But Fox was ramping up crime coverage to respond to Trump
                                         
                                        disliking all the Epstein coverage.
                                         
                                        So Trump ordered a distraction and then was himself deeply distracted by it,
                                         
                                        like a dad playing peekaboo with a toddler covering his eyes
                                         
                                        and then in a panic calling 911 to report a missing child.
                                         
                                        What it means is this was all done for the cameras
                                         
    
                                        without much of a plan at all.
                                         
                                        Pam Bondi, nominally running the Metropolitan Police
                                         
                                        and coordinating with the Secret Service
                                         
                                        and multiple federal departments
                                         
                                        has never run a police department before.
                                         
                                        How hard could it be, she wondered,
                                         
                                        accidentally poking herself with a pin on her new badge.
                                         
                                        And just when she's got it all figured out,
                                         
    
                                        In comes Detective Brett Savage, the tie undone,
                                         
                                        looking hungover, and yeah,
                                         
                                        he nabbed the crew that did the Mount Vernon job,
                                         
                                        but now she's got the buildings department up her ass
                                         
                                        because Savage took out the power to three city blocks to do it.
                                         
                                        But it's hard to get too mad at him
                                         
                                        because his methods may be unconventional,
                                         
                                        but Savage bleeds for this city,
                                         
    
                                        and he hasn't been the same since his wife disappeared.
                                         
                                        On Tuesday, National Guard troops were deployed
                                         
                                        to high crime areas like the Washington Monument,
                                         
                                        and federal agents were patrolling the mean streets of Georgetown.
                                         
                                        For our Los Angeles audience,
                                         
                                        Georgetown is like the grove, but for Uggos.
                                         
                                        On Wednesday night, about 100 protesters
                                         
                                        gathered around a checkpoint at 14th Street
                                         
    
                                        run by local police and federal officials
                                         
                                        from Homeland Security and ICE.
                                         
                                        In fairness, that checkpoint did prevent a crime wave
                                         
                                        from breaking out on that block
                                         
                                        between the bakery and the sweet green.
                                         
                                        And on Thursday, Trump claimed that the mayor
                                         
                                        had faked D.C.'s low crime numbers.
                                         
                                        Sadly, what I guess the mayor did, but whoever it was, they asked the numbers to be fudged so that it would show less crime than the fact.
                                         
    
                                        The fact is, it's worse than it's ever been.
                                         
                                        Trump simply put himself in the vulnerable headspace of a leader who receives a set of numbers that he or she doesn't like, and naturally imagined one might do something drastic and wrong to change the public perception of those numbers, a textbook empath.
                                         
                                        When Pam Bondi spoke at the press conference on Monday, she said,
                                         
                                        said this.
                                         
                                        Let me be crystal clear.
                                         
                                        Crime in D.C. is ending and ending today.
                                         
                                        And if it doesn't end today, she's going to ask to speak to crimes manager.
                                         
                                        Bondi gives away the game here.
                                         
    
                                        None of this is actually making sense as a plan to reduce crime.
                                         
                                        But it does make sense if you're doing a stunt with two goals.
                                         
                                        One, to claim you solved a problem.
                                         
                                        And two, to exert dominance and control.
                                         
                                        Because if those are the goals, the images alone are a success.
                                         
                                        videos of checkpoints and angry locals and uniformed service members on the streets of an American city are proof enough.
                                         
                                        And all Trump has to do when the consequences of government by stunt become clear is move on to the next one.
                                         
                                        And it's not just military parades and Tesla's on the White House lawn, which we loved.
                                         
    
                                        Doge was a stunt.
                                         
                                        Elon must set a goal of cutting $2 trillion in spending, then humbly set expectations at $1 trillion.
                                         
                                        He and Big Balls rampaged through the government destroying USAID, gutting scientific research, firing thousands.
                                         
                                        and sure, some of those federal workers reheated fish in the office microwave
                                         
                                        sent nuclear-level, cunty emails while signing off with cheers.
                                         
                                        But many were good people.
                                         
                                        We also don't know how many people died
                                         
                                        because of the abrupt end to food and vaccine programs,
                                         
    
                                        but some estimates put the figure in the hundreds of thousands.
                                         
                                        And Doge didn't save any money.
                                         
                                        It will likely end up costing the government hundreds of billions of dollars,
                                         
                                        in part because cutting a quarter of the workforce of the IRS
                                         
                                        means a lot more people cheat on their taxes,
                                         
                                        but no one here.
                                         
                                        It's also a stunt to announce tariffs on the whole world,
                                         
                                        including uninhabited islands all on the same day.
                                         
    
                                        It's a stunt to deploy the National Guard
                                         
                                        and 700 Marines to Los Angeles
                                         
                                        in response to a few protests that the LAPD
                                         
                                        made clear it could handle on its own
                                         
                                        while painting a picture of our city
                                         
                                        that is unrecognizable to the people
                                         
                                        who actually live here,
                                         
                                        much like La La Land or Vanderpump Rules.
                                         
    
                                        In the end, the Marines had nothing to do,
                                         
                                        when L.A. doesn't need any more hot guys
                                         
                                        pretending to be busy in the middle of the day.
                                         
                                        They're called actors, and we have enough of them.
                                         
                                        It was a stunt when Trump fired the Labor Department's statistics chief
                                         
                                        because he didn't like the job numbers.
                                         
                                        His new nominee, by the way,
                                         
                                        his name is E.J. Antony, a Heritage Foundation economist
                                         
    
                                        who was in the mob outside the Capitol on January 6th,
                                         
                                        as a bystander, according to the White House.
                                         
                                        Can't believe Trump would appoint someone
                                         
                                        who was part of something so embarrassing,
                                         
                                        the group of pussies who were too afraid to enter the Capitol.
                                         
                                        And it's a stunt for the administration to lobby on social media for Trump to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
                                         
                                        And sure, canceling vaccine research, shutting down food age, throwing people off of their health care,
                                         
                                        providing military support for Netanyahu's campaign of ethnic cleansing.
                                         
    
                                        All of this is deadly.
                                         
                                        But isn't death just eternal peace?
                                         
                                        Some might say he's brought the most peace.
                                         
                                        If we keep letting him run things, he might bring peace to us all.
                                         
                                        Wow, a lot to think about.
                                         
                                        And here's the thing.
                                         
                                        Stunts are exciting.
                                         
                                        Stunts get attention.
                                         
    
                                        Ron Funches, everybody.
                                         
                                        For those at home, Ron Funches just smashed a glass bottle over my head.
                                         
                                        Now, what was I talking about before that happened?
                                         
                                        Oh, I remember.
                                         
                                        Stunts changed the subject.
                                         
                                        But the subject doesn't disappear.
                                         
                                        On Thursday, we learned that producer and manufacturing prices
                                         
                                        are rising in the wake of Trump's tariffs,
                                         
    
                                        inflation that will ultimately hit consumers.
                                         
                                        And that's us.
                                         
                                        53% of Americans say the cost of groceries
                                         
                                        is a major source of stress in their lives,
                                         
                                        where than 60% of Americans disapprove
                                         
                                        of Trump's handling of inflation,
                                         
                                        and fully half of the country now believes
                                         
                                        Trump's economic policies have made them worse off.
                                         
    
                                        Here in Los Angeles,
                                         
                                        that's more than double the number of people
                                         
                                        who blame mercury for being in retrograde.
                                         
                                        When Trump dispatched those Marines to L.A.,
                                         
                                        it was a response to protest against ice raids in our city.
                                         
                                        In the months since, as raids have continued,
                                         
                                        the country has turned against Trump's crackdown.
                                         
                                        His approval on immigration,
                                         
    
                                        once his strongest issue has dropped to 35%.
                                         
                                        That's lower than the rating of the time traveler's wife on rotten tomatoes.
                                         
                                        He has a genetic disorder that causes him to travel through time.
                                         
                                        And where does he go to meet his wife when she's a little girl?
                                         
                                        38%.
                                         
                                        And more remarkably,
                                         
                                        according to Gallup,
                                         
                                        Eight and ten Americans are now pro-immigration.
                                         
    
                                        That's the highest that number has been in decades.
                                         
                                        The number of Americans who believe immigration should be decreased
                                         
                                        has also fallen from more than half to just 30% now.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
                                        When there was so much propaganda on the right,
                                         
                                        vilifying immigrants, when Trump is on TV day after day
                                         
                                        declaring our country overrun,
                                         
                                        why all of a sudden have Americans suddenly decided
                                         
    
                                        that they want to embrace immigration?
                                         
                                        One reason is because of all the story,
                                         
                                        that we're seeing day after day of what actually happens when the stunt is put into effect.
                                         
                                        On Monday, here in Los Angeles, a 15-year-old boy with special needs was waiting in his car.
                                         
                                        Outside of Arletta High School, with his grandmother, federal agents surrounded the car
                                         
                                        and handcuffed the terrified kid at gunpoint before letting him go in what they later called
                                         
                                        a case of mistaken identity. The boy wasn't, it turns out, an adult MS-13 gang member.
                                         
                                        there have been so many stories like this of innocent people swept up in this madness and those
                                         
    
                                        stories matter because they help make what is real feel true for people and what is true feel
                                         
                                        real and while stunts are loud in between what is real and true can still carry the day and so when
                                         
                                        Pam Bondi says this crime in DC is ending and ending today we have to make Pam Bondi pay for this
                                         
                                        promise we have to do everything in our power to make sure Washington DC has more crime than any
                                         
                                        city in history. Wait, that's not right. That's not right. Okay, how about this? Bernie Sanders has to learn
                                         
                                        to ride two horses at once. No bad ideas in a brain stop. All right. Okay. Coming up next,
                                         
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                                        And we're back. Please welcome to the stage. She's the mayor of Los Angeles. It's Mayor
                                         
                                        Karen Bass. Hi, how you doing? Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. All right. There's a
                                         
                                        lot to cover. So I want to start with what's obviously been happening in Los Angeles. So border
                                         
                                        patrol chief Greg Bovino said in response to your comments, describing certain ice raids as
                                         
                                        kidnappings. What he said was, we're going to go even harder here in Los Angeles. If she wants
                                         
                                        to continue that rhetoric, it makes me want to go harder. What is your response to that?
                                         
                                        Well, aside from the fact that that's bullshit, but my, my, my, my, my, that just verified.
                                         
                                        the stunts. Do you know what he did today?
                                         
    
                                        What he do today?
                                         
                                        So today, the governor was having a press conference around redistricting, right?
                                         
                                        Because we want to make sure that we can stop the administration in the midterms.
                                         
                                        And so we have to win the House.
                                         
                                        So while he's having a press conference at the Japanese American Museum,
                                         
                                        where the main exhibit in there is about the interment of the Japanese,
                                         
                                        Greg Bovino and a ton of agents from the Border Patrol
                                         
                                        surround the Japanese American Museum.
                                         
    
                                        Talk about a stunt.
                                         
                                        So they essentially do an ice raid
                                         
                                        in front of the governor's press conference
                                         
                                        at the Japanese American Museum.
                                         
                                        So that's obviously to get headlines
                                         
                                        and to stoke some controversy
                                         
                                        and to get responses, right?
                                         
                                        How could you do that?
                                         
    
                                        How could you do that?
                                         
                                        But their point, right, is to exert control
                                         
                                        and to say they can go anywhere, do anything.
                                         
                                        To that point, the city,
                                         
                                        won a restraining order against the Trump administration's raids that were kind of targeting
                                         
                                        people based on where they were working, based on the fact that they were Hispanic. And the
                                         
                                        restraining order seems to have an impact. The number of arrests went down. The restraining order
                                         
                                        was upheld about two weeks ago by an appeals court. And then a few days after that,
                                         
    
                                        a Penske Trump rolls up to the Home Depot in Westlake.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        The driver, apparently, according to reports, said, does anybody here need work?
                                         
                                        A bunch of people gather around the truck, the back rolls open, ice agents and masks come bundling out of the thing, chasing people around the parking lot.
                                         
                                        That seems to be a violation of the order.
                                         
                                        You agree it's a violation of that order.
                                         
                                        Exactly. And they even filmed themselves jumping out of the truck.
                                         
                                        So, now, to your mind, was it in response to the fact that the order was upheld?
                                         
    
                                        was the order holding till then?
                                         
                                        Was this only the most brazen violation?
                                         
                                        Like what was the status of the order until that raid?
                                         
                                        And what did you take that raid to signify?
                                         
                                        Well, first of all, it was an open violation of the order.
                                         
                                        As you said, it was upheld twice in two different courts.
                                         
                                        But it was basically to give a big FU to Los Angeles,
                                         
                                        to say that we don't care what the courts say.
                                         
    
                                        And if you think about it, just right by here in McArthur Park,
                                         
                                        remember, Bovino also rolled out the troops,
                                         
                                        We had Marines there, we had National Guard, and they marched through the park,
                                         
                                        and they marched through the side of the park where the summer camp was.
                                         
                                        So the children had to be taken away so they didn't see that.
                                         
                                        So it's about exerting power and saying it doesn't matter what the law says, and the court says,
                                         
                                        we're going to take over Los Angeles whenever and wherever we choose to.
                                         
                                        But so I hear that.
                                         
    
                                        I'm just genuinely trying to understand what the status is.
                                         
                                        Like, to your mind, was the order holding?
                                         
                                        Were there lesser violations?
                                         
                                        And this is a brazen escalation or what?
                                         
                                        No, I mean, again, the order has held, and there has definitely been a decline.
                                         
                                        So they're not doing what we had seen before, which is going down the street and snatching people off the street and literally kidnapping them.
                                         
                                        They haven't been doing that, but they have continued to do the Home Depot's.
                                         
                                        They've had continued to do raids on specific locations.
                                         
    
                                        but the one today, the gentleman that was detained was right outside of the museum.
                                         
                                        He was actually driving a truck.
                                         
                                        So what are the tools that you have, that the police have, that the city has, that the county has,
                                         
                                        to combat the Trump administration if it isn't going to follow the orders?
                                         
                                        What happens next?
                                         
                                        So what happens next is that the administration has appealed to the Supreme Court.
                                         
                                        So we'll see what the Supreme Court says.
                                         
                                        Now, we don't expect a Supreme Court to really do what they are supposed to do, but it still could be a judgment that could keep the temporary restraining order in place.
                                         
    
                                        Then there is also a trial at the end of September to decide whether or not the temporary restraining order is made permanent or whether it's lifted.
                                         
                                        So what could happen is the Supreme Court judgment could come down before the end of September or maybe not.
                                         
                                        We would wait and see.
                                         
                                        So, you know, a lot of the ways law enforcement at various levels works with each other is predicated on the fact that they're all following the law.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        If there is a temporary restraining order in place and they are violating it, what does that do in terms of the LAPD's obligations to the citizens of Los Angeles if there are federal agents breaking the law here?
                                         
                                        At what point do you as the mayor have an obligation to deploy the LAPD in ways that protect.
                                         
                                        people if there are people breaking the law, whether they're federal agents or not.
                                         
    
                                        Well, but see, this is why our democracy right now is being challenged, because we've
                                         
                                        never been in a situation where we had an administration that essentially is not abiding
                                         
                                        by the rule of law. So in theory, you could say, well, why can't the LAPD go out and arrest
                                         
                                        the border patrol? That's just not going to happen where you're going to have two different
                                         
                                        branches of law enforcement. Just imagine that. Both armed going at each other in the middle
                                         
                                        so that the federal government still supersedes the local government.
                                         
                                        If the Border Patrol continues to break these restraining orders,
                                         
                                        what do you hope to do?
                                         
    
                                        Obviously, you don't want,
                                         
                                        I'm not talking about an OK Corral-style shootout
                                         
                                        between agents on the streets of Los Angeles.
                                         
                                        But you have the school police
                                         
                                        that have obligations to protect the school
                                         
                                        once people are on the grounds.
                                         
                                        You have the federal government has the ability to protect its buildings
                                         
                                        and around those buildings, which they'll be able to do.
                                         
    
                                        What are the steps to kind of try to block them
                                         
                                        or stop them short of that.
                                         
                                        So, for example, if they wanted to come into a city building, we can prevent that.
                                         
                                        Unless they come into, and by the way, this is the same thing with the school district as well.
                                         
                                        If they come in with a bona fide warrant, then that just is above any level of law enforcement
                                         
                                        that would be on a local level.
                                         
                                        But they can't randomly come into city building.
                                         
                                        Where we get into trouble in Los Angeles is, for example, our parks that are not gated.
                                         
    
                                        They're open.
                                         
                                        And so you can't really stop them.
                                         
                                        There's nothing there to stop, and there's no physical barrier.
                                         
                                        So as part of this, you have Trump and his allies and people in the administration
                                         
                                        describing Los Angeles as basically a war zone that crime statistics are fake.
                                         
                                        Trump today had this to say in the Oval about why he had sent the guard.
                                         
                                        If we didn't go to Los Angeles to help this incompetent governor and a mayor that doesn't
                                         
                                        know what the hell she's doing, if we didn't go to Los Angeles, you wouldn't have a big part of it
                                         
    
                                        burned down. The other part of it would have burned down, too. You would have not had, I don't think
                                         
                                        you would have been able to have the Olympics. We have the Olympics. I have a lot at stake with that.
                                         
                                        He free associates. Right, right. So it's very strange being in Los Angeles and having it
                                         
                                        described in a way that isn't true. There were pockets of violence, property damage, unrest that the LAPD
                                         
                                        could contain. Later in this press conference, Trump says that at first, the sheriff or police commissioner
                                         
                                        welcomed the federal support, and then later after it was resolved, said he didn't need it
                                         
                                        because somebody got to him.
                                         
                                        Do you put the screws on the LAPD?
                                         
    
                                        Well, that just never happened, just like nothing else that he said actually happened.
                                         
                                        If you remember, he deployed the National Guard on a Saturday night after the first raid, okay?
                                         
                                        They didn't actually arrive here until Sunday.
                                         
                                        So what he was saying, the guard hadn't even arrived.
                                         
                                        He was taking credit for essentially dealing with the vandalism that happened.
                                         
                                        And by the way, we all know that Los Angeles is 500 square miles,
                                         
                                        and the protests took place in about two square miles of our city.
                                         
                                        So, as I said, Stephen Miller says the crime stance in big blue cities are fake.
                                         
    
                                        We have reports now that the homicide rate in Los Angeles has hit a 60-year low.
                                         
                                        That's not to say there aren't problems, there aren't issues, but it's a 60-year low.
                                         
                                        Where are you hiding the bodies?
                                         
                                        If you find them, let me know.
                                         
                                        I mean, you're absolutely right.
                                         
                                        Crime is down.
                                         
                                        Violence is down.
                                         
                                        Our city was not having any problems at all on June 5th.
                                         
    
                                        Everything started on June 6th at the first raid, and they have continued.
                                         
                                        They have created a sense of terror and fear around our city.
                                         
                                        You know, I started off my morning this morning on the west side.
                                         
                                        We had a press conference, predominantly Jewish men and women in solidarity.
                                         
                                        The one thing that has happened is, is that our city has stood together.
                                         
                                        There have been no division here.
                                         
                                        Every community has stood in solidarity because we understand how egregious this is.
                                         
                                        So you ran on addressing homelessness, and for the first time in decades, street homelessness is down for two years.
                                         
    
                                        That's an achievement.
                                         
                                        At the same time, it's still a big problem.
                                         
                                        problem in Los Angeles. What are the obstacles right now, like specific obstacles right now,
                                         
                                        to achieving what you had pledge, which is to end street homelessness in the city? What are the
                                         
                                        things that are standing in the way of getting that done more quickly? Sure. Well, first of all,
                                         
                                        I think one of the most important things we did accomplish was dispeling the myth that people who
                                         
                                        are living on the street don't want to leave. They absolutely do. And if you offer people housing,
                                         
                                        they will leave. So as far as I'm concerned, there's only two
                                         
    
                                        things that stand in our way. One, of course, is money, paying for the rooms for people to go.
                                         
                                        What we're doing, our current strategy is to place people in motel rooms. We don't have enough of
                                         
                                        them. We don't have enough housing where people could stay in while they're waiting for permanent
                                         
                                        housing. So interim housing where someone could stay and receive services for about a year, because
                                         
                                        it takes a while to build in the city. And then, now one other issue here is just building more
                                         
                                        housing, as you said, affordable and just market rate housing. All kinds. All kinds of housing.
                                         
                                        More than 70% roughly of the city still zoned for single family. Do you see that as being a big
                                         
                                        part of the problem? Well, I think it can be, but even in the areas where people don't want to have
                                         
    
                                        their single family home blocks disturbed, in a lot of those neighborhoods, people are willing
                                         
                                        and supportive of housing that are built in the commercial corridors. So to me, the best way to get it done
                                         
                                        is to have it done in collaboration with the neighborhoods.
                                         
                                        So one thing that L.A. did to try to address homelessness
                                         
                                        and to build more housing was this mansion tax,
                                         
                                        which I thought was a great idea.
                                         
                                        I have a problem with it as a math person.
                                         
                                        And the problem with it I have as a math person is it isn't graduated,
                                         
    
                                        and so there are these cliffs in it, right?
                                         
                                        It clicks in at 5% and 10 million,
                                         
                                        which means rich people game the system.
                                         
                                        They do a bunch of maneuvering to get all the houses to be 4.99,
                                         
                                        which means it doesn't raise as much money.
                                         
                                        Then in another way, the tax doesn't just apply to mansions, which is great.
                                         
                                        It applies to the building of multifamily housing.
                                         
                                        Is there any hope of changing that?
                                         
    
                                        What is the process?
                                         
                                        Because that seems stupid to me because you have this tax.
                                         
                                        It's getting a bunch of money in, which is great, less than they thought because somebody
                                         
                                        was not good at math who wrote it.
                                         
                                        But also, it's causing a decline in revenue that's coming in for things like schools and other
                                         
                                        things.
                                         
                                        And it may be making the problem in the long term worse by restricting the
                                         
                                        number of multifamily buildings. So what do we do? So let me just tell you that there are groups that
                                         
    
                                        are working on that right now to see if it can be adjusted, changed in some kind of way. We want to
                                         
                                        make sure we keep the resources for housing, but is there a way to address some of the unintended
                                         
                                        consequences? Let me tell you another unintended consequence. The people who survived the Palisades
                                         
                                        fire. If you survived the fire, your house was burned down and you, for whatever reason,
                                         
                                        have to sell your lot, you shouldn't have to pay a tax.
                                         
                                        on that. And so we're looking at that as well, carving out an exception for survivors of
                                         
                                        Palisades. It doesn't apply to Al-Tadena. It doesn't apply to Malibu because they're not in the
                                         
                                        city of Los Angeles. Yeah, look, it's interesting, though, because some of these things seem to be
                                         
    
                                        ad hoc ways of addressing what are problems for everybody, like permitting issues. And then
                                         
                                        moving to get the permitting done much faster, but L.A. has a permitting problem, right?
                                         
                                        These tax issues create problems, so you try to solve them here, but seem to represent a problem
                                         
                                        more broadly. It seems like we have a problem of these interwoven different levels of government.
                                         
                                        We have the county government. We have the city government. We have these ballot initiatives.
                                         
                                        Like right now, there are these potentially dueling ballot initiatives. You have the unite here
                                         
                                        service workers battling the industry groups over the Olympic wage and the potential repeal of
                                         
                                        attacks that funds whole parts of the city. This doesn't seem like any way to run a railroad.
                                         
    
                                        Well, let me just tell you, our democracy is messy. Everything that you described is the case.
                                         
                                        I can add on to it too and say that a lot of times, whether you're talking to the ballot or
                                         
                                        initiatives that are done legislatively, people will pass laws, but they don't always take
                                         
                                        into consideration unintended consequences. A lot of times policies are passed very quickly
                                         
                                        with nothing in the policy to say, hey, let's check it out in five years and see if it's
                                         
                                        working, or maybe we need to make some adjustments. Are there any bigger reforms that you would
                                         
                                        like to see? Now that you've been mayor for a couple years, that you've seen the city
                                         
                                        government so closely from the inside about what explains some of the challenges L.A. has, whether
                                         
    
                                        it's the relationship between the city and the county, the public ballot initiatives at the local
                                         
                                        and state level. How long are you going to have me on? I have a crazy pitch at the end of this.
                                         
                                        Okay. I got two. I have a crazy pitch. Because what if L.A. County and L.A. City parted as
                                         
                                        friends. Yeah. Well, there is actually, you know, that's not that crazy.
                                         
                                        Hey. We'll still be friends. We'll exchange things like garbage.
                                         
                                        You know, we'll exchange garbage and medicine.
                                         
                                        One of the divisions is the county provides social services the city does not.
                                         
                                        Considering how big L.A. is, what if L.A. was its own county and city?
                                         
    
                                        That seems like a really good idea to me. Let's do that.
                                         
                                        You're going to do that ballot initiative?
                                         
                                        Well, we've got to do a lot. It's a lot of messy. It's messy. That's messy, because we've got to go to the state, too, don't we?
                                         
                                        It is, yes. But let me just tell you, though, all seriousness aside, one of the things that I think is really important is that you got to find.
                                         
                                        fight for collaboration on all levels of the government.
                                         
                                        And it's fortunate for me, I have served on other levels of government.
                                         
                                        And so relationships, you know, transfer.
                                         
                                        And I think it's very important that we try that, that we do that.
                                         
    
                                        So you think it's very important that we try leaving the county?
                                         
                                        No, I said that we continue collaborating.
                                         
                                        Okay, okay.
                                         
                                        And we fight to collaborate.
                                         
                                        Two more things I wanted to touch on.
                                         
                                        So it's an emergency on Los Angeles.
                                         
                                        What's happened to our film industry, shooting things, making things in
                                         
                                        Los Angeles. It's heartbreaking because it's what made LA special. It helped make the United States. The city, the state, the country, like a beacon of culture. And we're losing business to Vancouver. We're losing business to Atlanta. We're losing business to Hungary for some reason. They're expanding the tax credit. There's a lot you can't control, but the tax credits being expanded. You've done executive orders. You've assembled a council. You've talked about how to make, cut down some of the bureaucracy. What are the other obstacles to getting more production back in LA right now? And
                                         
    
                                        Under the previous mayor, there was like a single point person that people could call
                                         
                                        if there was an issue.
                                         
                                        Do we need that?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        We do need that.
                                         
                                        And we actually are in the process of hiring a person to do that as we speak.
                                         
                                        That would collaborate also with film LA.
                                         
                                        But it's an issue that's been very, very important to me.
                                         
    
                                        One, three generations of my family have been involved either directly or indirectly.
                                         
                                        But the film tax credit was something I worked on when I was in Sacramento.
                                         
                                        when we did it, it was very small. We were just hoping that it would grow over time, but it didn't
                                         
                                        grow fast enough. So I'm happy what we did, or what the legislature did now, but also
                                         
                                        focusing on what we can do here. So I met with people in the industry to say, why is it
                                         
                                        hard to film here? It isn't all doom and gloom, though, because we had about 11 TV shows
                                         
                                        that came back to film in Los Angeles. So I think we might be on our way, more to go.
                                         
                                        And what is the hold up to having that point person?
                                         
    
                                        Because it, the part, nothing.
                                         
                                        There's no hold up.
                                         
                                        Okay, so it's going to happen.
                                         
                                        We're going to have that person.
                                         
                                        Yes, yes, yes.
                                         
                                        Great.
                                         
                                        All right, last question.
                                         
                                        This is just something that's bothering me.
                                         
    
                                        You're the mayor.
                                         
                                        Uh-oh.
                                         
                                        Something is happening out there on the streets, which is more and more people are tinting their front windshield
                                         
                                        and their passenger windows and their driver's windows.
                                         
                                        Now, the law is you can't tint your windshield, and you have to have 70% of lights got to get through.
                                         
                                        The driver's side.
                                         
                                        and the passenger side.
                                         
                                        It's nice.
                                         
    
                                        Look, I'd love to be wearing sunglasses
                                         
                                        as a car during the day,
                                         
                                        but there's this thing called night.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And there are stop signs,
                                         
                                        and it'll be high noon in Los Angeles.
                                         
                                        You pull up to a stop sign.
                                         
                                        You're looking at just a pitch black Tesla.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        What are we going to do?
                                         
                                        We've got to stop this.
                                         
                                        It's really dangerous.
                                         
                                        I really think this is crazy what's happening.
                                         
                                        Yes, I do too.
                                         
                                        I think it's an unaddressed issue.
                                         
                                        You know, and it would be interesting
                                         
    
                                        to look at the data in terms of car craft.
                                         
                                        and how many of them getting crashes,
                                         
                                        but what would you like to do?
                                         
                                        Because we don't also want to put that on the police department.
                                         
                                        Now they have to go around and stop everybody
                                         
                                        in a car with tinted windows, right?
                                         
                                        I'm like an ideas person, but I would, I'm not going to...
                                         
                                        As opposed to solutions.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I, no, I am a problem guy.
                                         
                                        You're supposed to be the solutions person.
                                         
                                        I'm coming to you with a problem.
                                         
                                        What are we going to do?
                                         
                                        Yes, I don't know what you do about all these tinted windows.
                                         
                                        I think you got to, you got to send a message.
                                         
                                        You got to go after the most tinted ones.
                                         
                                        It would be those
                                         
    
                                        Teslas. What are those weird cars
                                         
                                        go to the? Oh my God, aren't they
                                         
                                        awful? They're got off.
                                         
                                        Hey, it should be legal to just cut off waymos
                                         
                                        whenever you want. They're not people in there.
                                         
                                        I don't know. They're everywhere.
                                         
                                        I don't see them. I don't see them as people.
                                         
                                        I have some funny Waymo stories, but I'm not going to tell them now.
                                         
    
                                        I'll tell you off the record. Do you feel anger
                                         
                                        towards them? I feel anger and resentment towards
                                         
                                        them. I feel mad. I just want to see them in some parts of town.
                                         
                                        Okay. Oh, that's a lot to talk. That's interesting.
                                         
                                        That's interesting. Mayor Cameron Bass, thank you so much for your time.
                                         
                                        Really good talking to you. Thanks for having me on.
                                         
                                        So great. Thank you so much. Really good to see you. Mayor Bass, everybody. So appreciate it.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much.
                                         
    
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                                        Please welcome to the stage.
                                         
                                        Two people who aren't the mayor.
                                         
                                        It's Tom Papa and Ron Funches.
                                         
                                        Come on in, guys.
                                         
                                        Hey, everybody.
                                         
                                        Thanks for being here.
                                         
    
                                        Thanks for having us.
                                         
                                        Good to see you both.
                                         
                                        Sorry I hit you at a bottle.
                                         
                                        No, it's okay.
                                         
                                        It was part of it was a bit.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no. They made me.
                                         
                                        They made me, and I volunteered gleefully.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It was, I'm a fun person to hit with a bottle, I think, just temperamentally.
                                         
                                        Did it hurt your ear?
                                         
                                        You know, it wasn't real, but still it was ear.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It was, you know, it's more.
                                         
                                        I aimed at will.
                                         
    
                                        No, he got me here.
                                         
                                        It's more than, it's a loud cracking sound.
                                         
                                        So it's just loud, you know, because it is getting hit with a bottle.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        But it was perfect.
                                         
                                        He executed perfectly.
                                         
                                        It was an amazing job, Ron.
                                         
                                        Great call on the tinted windows, by the way.
                                         
    
                                        You agree, right?
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        It's crazy what's happening.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Between the tinted window guys and the Honda Accords going 200 miles an hour.
                                         
                                        I'm terrified to leave my house.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        So there's a lot of news we talk about, and there's so much that can be hard to cover it all,
                                         
                                        which is why we have a segment called News It or Lose It.
                                         
                                        News It or Lose It?
                                         
                                        You better lose it.
                                         
                                        That's so good.
                                         
                                        All right, let's kick it off.
                                         
                                        First question. Tom, a White House official told USA Today,
                                         
                                        which members of Trump's inner circle will help Dana White
                                         
    
                                        plan the White House UFC event due to their love of Brazilian jiu-jitsu?
                                         
                                        Is it A, Ivanka Trump, B, Jared Kushner, C, Lara Trump?
                                         
                                        All of the above.
                                         
                                        It is Ivanka Trump.
                                         
                                        We have a clip of Ivanka doing Jiu-Jitsu.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        So long.
                                         
                                        So long.
                                         
    
                                        First of all, that was AI.
                                         
                                        We made that.
                                         
                                        No, it's real.
                                         
                                        Or is it?
                                         
                                        Did he make that?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        He said on Monday, I want Ivanka in the middle of this.
                                         
                                        So Ivanka reached out to me, and her and I started talking about
                                         
    
                                        the possibilities.
                                         
                                        That's what he said about Ivanka.
                                         
                                        He wants her in the middle of this,
                                         
                                        this being the UFC.
                                         
                                        250th birthday.
                                         
                                        In that big ballroom.
                                         
                                        You do, you are jujitsu.
                                         
                                        I do do jujitsu.
                                         
    
                                        You do jujitsu.
                                         
                                        Is that good jujitsu?
                                         
                                        That wasn't the best jujitsu.
                                         
                                        Huh.
                                         
                                        Wasn't the best.
                                         
                                        But jujitsu is fun.
                                         
                                        I was the only thing where I'd go,
                                         
                                        oh, okay, that's cool.
                                         
    
                                        But I don't believe it.
                                         
                                        is jiu-jitsu it's a lot of that
                                         
                                        it's a lot of like throwing
                                         
                                        it's a lot throwing it's mostly on the ground
                                         
                                        though it's a lot grappling not too much
                                         
                                        striking it's mostly hugging and choking
                                         
                                        so a good evening
                                         
                                        Ron you're a
                                         
    
                                        WGB fan right
                                         
                                        what's your what's your vibe on the
                                         
                                        on the UFC I was talking to Tom
                                         
                                        backstage I'm not a big UFC guy
                                         
                                        I do like Jiu Jitsu
                                         
                                        I forgot that they were tied together
                                         
                                        and then I had bought stock in the WWE years ago
                                         
                                        because I'm such a big fan
                                         
    
                                        and I was like, it looks like they're going to sell
                                         
                                        and then they did sell
                                         
                                        so then when they got this new merger
                                         
                                        it helped me make money so that was a positive
                                         
                                        but the whole thing about it
                                         
                                        happened at the White House
                                         
                                        just makes it feel like we live in ediocracy
                                         
                                        and that's not fun.
                                         
    
                                        America's 250 years old.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, doesn't look a day over 180.
                                         
                                        Ron, a man was charged
                                         
                                        with felony assault of an officer Wednesday
                                         
                                        after throwing what food at a Customs and Border
                                         
                                        Protection Officer in D.C.?
                                         
                                        Oh, I don't get multiple choices?
                                         
    
                                        No. I just put the pick
                                         
                                        between all the foods and history
                                         
                                        of bad guys. Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'll take chili.
                                         
                                        Oh, you had that cute up quick.
                                         
                                        It was, in fact,
                                         
                                        well, here's Janine Piro to tell us.
                                         
    
                                        he took a subway sandwich about this big
                                         
                                        and took it and threw it at the officer
                                         
                                        he thought it was funny
                                         
                                        well he doesn't think it's funny today
                                         
                                        because we charged it with a felony
                                         
                                        it was funny
                                         
                                        it was funny
                                         
                                        it was definitely funny
                                         
    
                                        that's probably like $40 worth of sandwich
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        attacking with a sandwich is always funny
                                         
                                        it felt so impulsive because there's a video of it
                                         
                                        and first of all he just
                                         
                                        he throws the sandwich and then he turns
                                         
                                        around and he runs and it's not fast
                                         
                                        it's not it's actually like
                                         
    
                                        not no one is moving fast
                                         
                                        enough in the wake of the sandwich throwing
                                         
                                        I don't know if he was drunk
                                         
                                        probably drunk
                                         
                                        but he throws the sandwich
                                         
                                        he turns and he's I don't
                                         
                                        it looks like a jog
                                         
                                        then appearing to hit the officer in the chest
                                         
    
                                        with a foot long subway sandwich
                                         
                                        it's not
                                         
                                        it's just not that fast
                                         
                                        it's just not fast
                                         
                                        yeah that's a toddler trot
                                         
                                        according to attorney general
                                         
                                        Bondi, the sandwich store worked for the Justice Department and had been fired.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
    
                                        Expensive sandwiches, right.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Tom, your podcast is called Breaking Bread.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        You literally bake a loaf of bread and share it with your guests.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Why does every subway restaurant smell the same?
                                         
                                        That smell.
                                         
    
                                        What is that smell?
                                         
                                        It's not bread.
                                         
                                        It's not bread.
                                         
                                        What is it?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        But you know that smell?
                                         
                                        I do know that smell.
                                         
                                        And they claim it's bread.
                                         
    
                                        It's not bread.
                                         
                                        It's not bread.
                                         
                                        It's probably chemicals and rodent hair.
                                         
                                        Doesn't smell like the bread in my house
                                         
                                        I gave you my bread
                                         
                                        I knew it to your house
                                         
                                        Yeah he brought me bread
                                         
                                        What kind of bread?
                                         
    
                                        It smelled good
                                         
                                        It smelled good
                                         
                                        It was delicious
                                         
                                        It felt like getting a Paul Hollywood handshake
                                         
                                        It was
                                         
                                        I feel like getting bread from Tom Papa
                                         
                                        It's a status symbol that you want
                                         
                                        It's like the Tom Cruise cake
                                         
    
                                        I thought it was a euphemism for a handjob
                                         
                                        I thought that's what that was
                                         
                                        Yeah that's your coconut cake
                                         
                                        From Tom Cruise
                                         
                                        What kind of bread was it?
                                         
                                        Sourd
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        A country loaf.
                                         
    
                                        A country loaf.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Right here in the city.
                                         
                                        Right here in the city.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You can make them here now.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I just get in my car, put up the tinted windows, and deliver bread.
                                         
                                        Get up into a stop sign.
                                         
    
                                        You're supposed to make a little eyes with people for safety's sake.
                                         
                                        Especially now when people just...
                                         
                                        You ever know when you're at a stop sign now?
                                         
                                        So a car arrives, then you arrive.
                                         
                                        Then a third car arrives here.
                                         
                                        This car turns left.
                                         
                                        This person is like, I don't care about the rules.
                                         
                                        This is my opening.
                                         
    
                                        They turn right before you can go straight.
                                         
                                        Yeah, because you're blocked by that other guy.
                                         
                                        We used to have a society.
                                         
                                        There's no rules here.
                                         
                                        I was behind a guy on a Sunday morning.
                                         
                                        It wasn't that busy, but we got up to the light, and he made a left on red.
                                         
                                        And I was like, well, why am I following the rules?
                                         
                                        But that's the thing about rules.
                                         
    
                                        That's how rules work.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        You see someone break the rules.
                                         
                                        You're like, no rules anymore.
                                         
                                        That guy can do it, I can do it.
                                         
                                        And next thing you know, everybody's storming the fucking gate.
                                         
                                        It's what's happening.
                                         
                                        Have you ever seen a cop pull someone over for a traffic violation in any of your drives ever?
                                         
    
                                        Have you ever seen a cop on the side right now a ticket?
                                         
                                        So, yes, it keeps happening to me.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        I got pulled over twice in a two-week span for texting while driving.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, please.
                                         
                                        Yeah, all right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, boomie.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, wear your robes and gavels.
                                         
                                        Did they know you have your own show?
                                         
                                        And so...
                                         
                                        You're busy.
                                         
                                        But, so the first guy, I was like, he got me, just dead to rights.
                                         
                                        Eye contact phone.
                                         
                                        It was bad.
                                         
                                        It was a stoplight, but he got me.
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        And then the second person, I tried to persuade him not to give me the ticket by telling him, please, I just got one of these.
                                         
                                        Which didn't work because it's like, so it seems like it didn't teach you a fucking thing.
                                         
                                        God.
                                         
                                        I can't believe you saw it.
                                         
                                        police officer on the streets.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        What a privileged sentence you just did.
                                         
    
                                        I can believe it.
                                         
                                        You see him?
                                         
                                        I run across them.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        It's a good segue because
                                         
                                        Tom, you know, Trump has a certain way
                                         
                                        of describing our city as being
                                         
                                        a crime-ridden hellscape.
                                         
    
                                        What do you think about that?
                                         
                                        Man, I have, I'll tell you.
                                         
                                        Are you pro that or you that?
                                         
                                        I'll tell you what happened.
                                         
                                        I went to, I did a little experiment in the first Trump
                                         
                                        when he was saying the Portland was a hellhole.
                                         
                                        Remember that?
                                         
                                        He was saying Portland was on fire.
                                         
    
                                        Portland was a hellhole.
                                         
                                        They were protesting at City Hall.
                                         
                                        And they were saying, don't go there.
                                         
                                        And he was saying all the same stuff he's saying about us.
                                         
                                        He was saying about Portland.
                                         
                                        And this was after the pandemic.
                                         
                                        And I had a gig up there.
                                         
                                        And this little club, you know, like just a, no.
                                         
    
                                        no audience kind of a situation.
                                         
                                        We were just coming back.
                                         
                                        And I was with my daughter, who was like 17 at the time.
                                         
                                        And I don't know if we should go.
                                         
                                        Did you see what's happening in Portland?
                                         
                                        I said, we have to go.
                                         
                                        Let's go see.
                                         
                                        And we got on a plane by ourselves, and we went to Portland.
                                         
    
                                        And within 20 minutes, we were at a food truck eating tacos and sunshine
                                         
                                        with beautiful people and cats and dogs and rainbows.
                                         
                                        It was beautiful.
                                         
                                        And I quickly realized that it's a lie.
                                         
                                        It's a lie.
                                         
                                        and I feel the same thing here in LA
                                         
                                        I tour all over you tour
                                         
                                        and when you tell them you're from LA
                                         
    
                                        they're oh my God how is it
                                         
                                        how is it out there
                                         
                                        and they're buying the same bullshit
                                         
                                        that they were sold about Portland
                                         
                                        so you know it's the same about
                                         
                                        DC and you know it's going to be
                                         
                                        the same about Chicago
                                         
                                        it's bullshit
                                         
    
                                        it is complete utter optical bullshit
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        I will say that the parking
                                         
                                        at the equinox in Irwan
                                         
                                        in Studio City
                                         
                                        is hellish, though.
                                         
                                        Worse than Trader Joe's?
                                         
                                        No, not, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        Speaking of sandwiches,
                                         
                                        in a new interview
                                         
                                        with Vice President J.D. Vance,
                                         
                                        Katie Miller, wife of Trump's Deputy Chief of Snaf,
                                         
                                        Stephen Miller, revealed her husband only eats
                                         
                                        one condiment. Which one is it?
                                         
                                        Either one if you take it. He only eats one
                                         
                                        condiment, which is the one condoment
                                         
    
                                        that Stephen Miller eats. Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                        That would be my guess, yes.
                                         
                                        It's an easy guess. You just assume mayonnaise.
                                         
                                        I was thinking
                                         
                                        mayonnaise, too, yeah.
                                         
                                        White.
                                         
                                        I believe we have a clip.
                                         
                                        If you could only eat one condiment for the rest of your
                                         
    
                                        life, what would it be? One condiment?
                                         
                                        Does barbecue sauce count? Yeah. Okay, barbecue sauce.
                                         
                                        Not mayonnaise?
                                         
                                        No. Now, mayonnaise is like
                                         
                                        in low doses as good, but it's kind of
                                         
                                        Like, I had a buddy who used to eat French fries and mayonnaise.
                                         
                                        I thought that was disgusting.
                                         
                                        It's the only thing my husband eats.
                                         
    
                                        With French fries or like period?
                                         
                                        Period.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's only a mayonnaise guy.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I learned something about Steve and I didn't know.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's whatever.
                                         
                                        Him being chummy.
                                         
                                        Him trying to be chummy and funny.
                                         
                                        It's a little window into a world that you just want no access to.
                                         
                                        You just want to stay.
                                         
                                        You're like, oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, the chit-chat is horrific.
                                         
    
                                        What horrific chit-chat?
                                         
                                        It hurts my soul.
                                         
                                        He went to Yale Law School.
                                         
                                        He knows that barbecue sauce is a condiment.
                                         
                                        If it's not, what is?
                                         
                                        This is the problem, funny people?
                                         
                                        It's that when you watch him talk this way,
                                         
                                        you know in his mind he's thinking,
                                         
    
                                        I'm killing right now.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        There's something about Vance, I talked about on the podcast or something, it doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        I'm always being recorded, but the, you know, he grew up in this, you know, rural, in rural Ohio, he then goes to these elite places and, like, passes.
                                         
                                        He knows how to pass.
                                         
                                        And that's what he does.
                                         
                                        He's very good.
                                         
                                        He's very smart, very ambitious, very observant.
                                         
    
                                        You know, he writes the book.
                                         
                                        It's the perfect book to get his foot in the door into this.
                                         
                                        world and then he realizes to pivot into this Trump direction opposite of the direction he had
                                         
                                        been traveling because that's what's next he's really smart about that and you see this guy that's
                                         
                                        like just such a character that he's created and all of it I listen to a lot of 90s rock
                                         
                                        he's 41 years old he seems like he's a hundred years old it's the talented mr. Ripley
                                         
                                        right yeah that thing it's like he adapts he's a came i haven't seen it don't ruin it for me
                                         
                                        We said before this show that there were no spoilers for 1998's The Talented Mr. Ripley.
                                         
    
                                        My apologies. I was told.
                                         
                                        Why did you start making bread, you think?
                                         
                                        I always cooked. I love hosting people. I love cooking for people.
                                         
                                        And when I learned about making real bread, I really bothered me that bread has been around for centuries.
                                         
                                        and when we become people, they say bread's bad.
                                         
                                        And I was like, that's wrong.
                                         
                                        That can't be.
                                         
                                        Why are we the unchosen people?
                                         
    
                                        And I realize it's because we never eat real bread.
                                         
                                        And if you make bread with flour, water, salt, and yeast,
                                         
                                        the proper way to make it with a sourdose starter,
                                         
                                        you can eat it.
                                         
                                        It's not filled with all of this other stuff.
                                         
                                        And my friends that were gluten intolerant were able to eat it,
                                         
                                        and it just wasn't real bread.
                                         
                                        And once I hooked into that, I just couldn't stop.
                                         
    
                                        You know, when I saw it,
                                         
                                        and I don't know if it's true
                                         
                                        because it was on the internet
                                         
                                        that if you overcook pasta
                                         
                                        it gets less healthy
                                         
                                        that it's like better for you
                                         
                                        the like if it's more al dente
                                         
                                        and I feel like
                                         
    
                                        so there was the food pyramid
                                         
                                        right and I've talked about this
                                         
                                        but it was evil
                                         
                                        but it created a beautiful moment
                                         
                                        because you could eat as much carbs as you want
                                         
                                        and everyone was like
                                         
                                        that's what's good for you
                                         
                                        yeah you're not getting enough carbs today
                                         
    
                                        you need your 10 carbs
                                         
                                        yeah and that was crazy
                                         
                                        it was crazy and then America gained
                                         
                                        a trillion pounds
                                         
                                        like exactly a trillion
                                         
                                        about, you know, about 30 pounds each.
                                         
                                        And they were like, no more bread at all.
                                         
                                        And I was like, hey, hey, hey, I'm not the one
                                         
    
                                        that fucking made the pyramid that we overdid it.
                                         
                                        I don't want to feel guilty about one bread.
                                         
                                        I get 10 bread.
                                         
                                        Why do I feel bad about one bread?
                                         
                                        I want to eat one to three bread and feel good about it.
                                         
                                        If this is your way of asking for me to bake you bread, I will do it.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
    
                                        Next up, the National Park Service announced it would be re-erecting a statue of which historical figure toppled during the Black Lives Matter protest of 2020.
                                         
                                        Is it A, Confederate General and War Criminal Albert Pike?
                                         
                                        B, Confederate General and KKK Grand Wizard Nathan Bedford Forrest, or C, infamous British traitor Benedict Arnold.
                                         
                                        I know this one, but I think it's your turn.
                                         
                                        A.
                                         
                                        You got it.
                                         
                                        D.C. Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton said in a statement,
                                         
                                        the decision to honor Albert Pike is odd and indefensible as it is morally objectionable.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, the statement goes on.
                                         
                                        It's stupid.
                                         
                                        We shouldn't do it.
                                         
                                        Then Norton re-injrews the bill to permanently remove the statue, saying of Pike,
                                         
                                        soldiers under his command were found to have mutilated the bodies of Union soldiers,
                                         
                                        and he was ultimately imprisoned after his fellow Confederate officers reported they had been misappropriating funds.
                                         
                                        He absolutely has no claim to be moralized on the federal land in this nation's capital.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Seems right to me.
                                         
                                        They should just give them a theme park.
                                         
                                        Speaking of Traders to America
                                         
                                        Ron you're going to be on the next season of Traders
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Oh now I earned your respect
                                         
                                        What can you tell us
                                         
                                        You guys solve missions
                                         
    
                                        They lock you in Castle with terrible people
                                         
                                        It was crazy
                                         
                                        I had a panic attack
                                         
                                        I didn't have I didn't enjoy it at all
                                         
                                        I got to be in way too much contact with Michael Rappaport
                                         
                                        So I was on
                                         
                                        survivor and I was loving it and they voted me off
                                         
                                        I would have stayed longer
                                         
    
                                        yeah you're crazy though
                                         
                                        that's what I learned because we got
                                         
                                        we got survivor people on the traders
                                         
                                        and then I learned it they're like oh as you survive
                                         
                                        off of like a grain or rice a day
                                         
                                        and you learn not to poop for three
                                         
                                        weeks and I just don't trust anyone that's not regular
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        I was only there for three days
                                         
                                        I really only missed
                                         
                                        three dinners.
                                         
                                        If you were like, how was it?
                                         
                                        Was it hard?
                                         
                                        I was like, yeah, I missed three dinners.
                                         
                                        Why did they vote you all?
                                         
                                        Jealousy.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        All right, Tom, on Wednesday, Donald Trump announced this year's Kennedy Center
                                         
                                        honorees, which of the following is not one of these years award recipients?
                                         
                                        A, Sylvester Stallone, B, Betty Buckley, who originated Grizzabella in the original
                                         
                                        Broadway run of Cats, a musical Trump is obsessed with, or C, the band Kiss.
                                         
                                        Kiss is on there
                                         
                                        What was the first one?
                                         
                                        So Vester Stallone
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah, I think he's got slight
                                         
                                        The middle one
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was, it was Betty Buckley
                                         
                                        Didn't make the cut this year
                                         
                                        Yeah, he wasn't obsessed with cats
                                         
                                        Oh, but Broadway performer Michael Crawford did
                                         
                                        He is the original Phantom
                                         
                                        In Broadway's Phantom of the Opera
                                         
    
                                        One of Trump's other favorite musicals
                                         
                                        He does genuinely like cats
                                         
                                        He does?
                                         
                                        Yeah, he likes cats, he likes musicals
                                         
                                        And he likes Phantom of the Opera
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        I think he likes the part where the chandelier falls
                                         
                                        and the woman pays the ultimate price.
                                         
    
                                        Sounds like we're back in your camp.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Trump also announced that he himself
                                         
                                        will be hosting the Kennedy Center honors.
                                         
                                        Won't that be nice?
                                         
                                        I can't wait for his monologue.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and kiss.
                                         
                                        And kiss.
                                         
    
                                        Gene Simmons sticks his tongue out very far.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's got a big long tongue.
                                         
                                        Do you think, I guess now that Ozzy is dead, there's only...
                                         
                                        It feels like you two had just met at a bus stop.
                                         
                                        Us?
                                         
                                        You don't think this is a good rapport?
                                         
                                        I like it.
                                         
                                        You got a big long time.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm enjoying.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Fine.
                                         
                                        Fucking.
                                         
                                        You ever see Minikis?
                                         
                                        or little kiss
                                         
    
                                        what is the
                                         
                                        mini kiss
                                         
                                        there's a little kiss
                                         
                                        there's a little kiss
                                         
                                        little people kiss
                                         
                                        I haven't seen that
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        wow
                                         
    
                                        they're not
                                         
                                        they're not great musically
                                         
                                        but they're adorable
                                         
                                        do you think
                                         
                                        Trump could
                                         
                                        uh
                                         
                                        well speaking of performing
                                         
                                        did you see Mark
                                         
    
                                        nice
                                         
                                        I derailed it
                                         
                                        nah it's okay
                                         
                                        speaking of nothing
                                         
                                        four reactors
                                         
                                        at the grave lines
                                         
                                        nuclear facility in Nord France went down
                                         
                                        after its cooling system became clogged with
                                         
    
                                        what? A. Frommage
                                         
                                        that means cheese.
                                         
                                        B. Jellyfish
                                         
                                        or C. Frenchman?
                                         
                                        It sounded like Frenchman
                                         
                                        was going to be a two-part word.
                                         
                                        I get, okay, I'm going to say jellyfish
                                         
                                        because the other one sound real jokey.
                                         
    
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        These shutdowns are the result of the massive
                                         
                                        and unforeseeable presence of jellyfish
                                         
                                        and the filter drums of the pumping stations.
                                         
                                        The shutdown did not pose a safety risk
                                         
                                        to the plant or the environment,
                                         
                                        but not great for the jellyfish.
                                         
                                        I assume they've got too many jellyfish
                                         
    
                                        because of climate change,
                                         
                                        but I didn't get to that far in the article.
                                         
                                        It always ends up there.
                                         
                                        Do you ever put raisins in your bread?
                                         
                                        I tried a cinnamon raisin.
                                         
                                        It didn't come out that great.
                                         
                                        I didn't ask about that.
                                         
                                        Yes, yes, I have.
                                         
    
                                        Cool. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
                                         
                                        What about pumpernickel?
                                         
                                        What is that?
                                         
                                        That's a good question.
                                         
                                        It's got a little molasses in it.
                                         
                                        It's got pumpkin at all?
                                         
                                        Pumpkin?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's not pumpkin, Nicer.
                                         
                                        You don't got to call me that.
                                         
                                        Do you really think Tom Papa and I don't have a good rapport?
                                         
                                        I've been enjoying it.
                                         
                                        I'm even aware.
                                         
                                        I'm aware of his heart out.
                                         
                                        I'm keeping an eye on the field stage.
                                         
                                        We have a great report.
                                         
    
                                        We have a great report.
                                         
                                        It's so good we don't care who else is interested.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't need these people.
                                         
                                        I've said this before.
                                         
                                        I said it again.
                                         
                                        They are a tool to make the podcast more.
                                         
                                        enjoyable for the real audience.
                                         
                                        You like raisins?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah, I think they're great.
                                         
                                        I really like them.
                                         
                                        I think they are unfortunately too tied to cinnamon.
                                         
                                        I don't understand.
                                         
                                        Hey, hey.
                                         
                                        Do your own thing.
                                         
                                        Bagel places.
                                         
                                        Just throw some raisins in there.
                                         
    
                                        You don't need the cinnamon.
                                         
                                        What about a cinnamon salt bagel?
                                         
                                        What about a cinnamon sesame bagel?
                                         
                                        Tell me it won't be great.
                                         
                                        You can't because it will be great.
                                         
                                        It will be great.
                                         
                                        Because I like sometimes putting,
                                         
                                        I'll put whitefish salad on a simmon raisin bagel.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        You fucking sheep.
                                         
                                        This is a man you listen to.
                                         
                                        It's great.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        What would be so bad?
                                         
    
                                        It's terrible.
                                         
                                        Sweet and salty together.
                                         
                                        Everyone will fucking hate it.
                                         
                                        Shut up.
                                         
                                        Her reaction came from the back of her throat.
                                         
                                        I think everything tastes good together.
                                         
                                        I think anyone who says things that are good, that don't taste good, they always taste good together.
                                         
                                        Everything.
                                         
    
                                        Everything.
                                         
                                        Everything.
                                         
                                        Everything.
                                         
                                        orange and milk together, creamsicle.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        Good.
                                         
                                        That's pretty good.
                                         
                                        You could find a made-of-waite,
                                         
    
                                        made-a-waite...
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's good, too.
                                         
                                        That bus is running late.
                                         
                                        I can't believe I let you hit me in the head with a bottle.
                                         
                                        And finally, as a tiebreaker,
                                         
                                        finish this headline from the Hill,
                                         
                                        Jurassic World Rebirth is the perfect metaphor for
                                         
                                        What? Is it A
                                         
    
                                        Trump's relationship with Zelenskyy
                                         
                                        B, Pam Bondi's Metropolitan Police Takeover
                                         
                                        Or C. Zoran Mamdani's socialism
                                         
                                        This is yours
                                         
                                        I don't think so. It's a tiebreaker. Oh, we both say it
                                         
                                        You do one? What do you think?
                                         
                                        B
                                         
                                        wrong
                                         
    
                                        nice I went
                                         
                                        it's a metaphor
                                         
                                        for Zoran Mamdani's socialism
                                         
                                        really
                                         
                                        Jurassic World Rebirth is a summer
                                         
                                        blockbuster people are lining up to see it
                                         
                                        people are also crowding to see
                                         
                                        Mumdani's socialism
                                         
    
                                        what a stretch that is
                                         
                                        what
                                         
                                        and if they
                                         
                                        and I think because the movie's not
                                         
                                        he says if he wins the Mayo race
                                         
                                        they will also be lining up
                                         
                                        to get out
                                         
                                        oh and his socialism
                                         
    
                                        has like a mid-credit sequence
                                         
                                        in credit sequence, too.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        They want you to stay hooked
                                         
                                        for the next time
                                         
                                        that we do socialism.
                                         
                                        When we come back, the rat wheel.
                                         
                                        Hey, don't go anywhere.
                                         
    
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                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Time for the rant.
                                         
                                        Here's how it goes.
                                         
                                        We spin the wheel
                                         
                                        wherever he lands.
                                         
                                        We rant about the topic.
                                         
                                        Let's spin the wheel.
                                         
                                        Rant wheel.
                                         
    
                                        And it's landing on Tom Papa.
                                         
                                        Are we going to rant about Tom?
                                         
                                        No, no, he rants at us.
                                         
                                        We can't if you want.
                                         
                                        And what's this guy's deal with the fucking bread?
                                         
                                        What do you want to rant about?
                                         
                                        I would say
                                         
                                        my daughter has a rabbit
                                         
    
                                        and she got it in school.
                                         
                                        and she adopted a rabbit
                                         
                                        because she's lonely
                                         
                                        and the only airline
                                         
                                        that except rabbits is spirit airlines
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        American did up until last month
                                         
                                        and all the other ones said
                                         
    
                                        no other animals other than dog and cat
                                         
                                        and this is because people like brought peacocks
                                         
                                        and stuff and they're just like they just don't want to deal
                                         
                                        they just don't want a deal so they're just like you know
                                         
                                        screw it just dogs and cats
                                         
                                        and my daughter has this little rabbit
                                         
                                        and she's going back to school
                                         
                                        to finish up college
                                         
    
                                        and I have to go with her
                                         
                                        and I might die on spirit
                                         
                                        how long of a flight are we talking about
                                         
                                        cross country
                                         
                                        wow wow
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        huh have you thought about
                                         
                                        she can't bring a rabbit a rabbit's more docile
                                         
    
                                        than everything I feel like
                                         
                                        hmm I guess you'd have to put it through the radar
                                         
                                        or whatever the x-ray if you really wanted to sneak it through
                                         
                                        which you don't want to do it I know I was thinking just make
                                         
                                        pretend it's a cat right get a cat suit for it get a little a cat costume
                                         
                                        for it. And it's ears down.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that's, that, that's, that, that's a cat all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just be like, oh, my little kitten, but, and then, I don't know what it is, I mean, good on spirit. That's, like, that's where spirit's, like, that's our business. Right.
                                         
                                        That's our business.
                                         
    
                                        Wooden crates.
                                         
                                        Wooden crates with chickens.
                                         
                                        That's how you.
                                         
                                        Feathers.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        I love that about spirit.
                                         
                                        So sad.
                                         
                                        Bring whatever you got.
                                         
    
                                        That felt like a solid punchline.
                                         
                                        I liked it.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah?
                                         
                                        Yeah, bring whatever you got.
                                         
                                        We liked it.
                                         
                                        Thanks, guys.
                                         
                                        You have a hard out.
                                         
                                        You can go if you want.
                                         
    
                                        I can.
                                         
                                        You can.
                                         
                                        Tom Pop, everybody.
                                         
                                        Go to the comedy store.
                                         
                                        My problem.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Tom Bob, everybody.
                                         
                                        So great.
                                         
    
                                        I love your show.
                                         
                                        That was so fun.
                                         
                                        I'll see again.
                                         
                                        That was fun.
                                         
                                        I'll see you, but.
                                         
                                        I'll come closer.
                                         
                                        Come closer.
                                         
                                        Tompob, everybody.
                                         
    
                                        Let's spin it again.
                                         
                                        Ron, what do you got?
                                         
                                        Well, I think my general rant would just be that I was watching your talk with Mayor Karen Bass,
                                         
                                        and I talked to it a little bit to her before she came out.
                                         
                                        and she says something about like
                                         
                                        oh can you believe what
                                         
                                        Trump did this week with the
                                         
                                        with the raid while they were having a news conference
                                         
    
                                        and I keep hearing that
                                         
                                        like a lot and it reminds me
                                         
                                        of like when I was first getting divorced
                                         
                                        and I was like
                                         
                                        blindsided by it and I kept being like
                                         
                                        oh I can't believe this is happening and then something
                                         
                                        else would happen and I can't believe she's doing
                                         
                                        this and she's acting like this
                                         
    
                                        and at one point my mom just kind of put me
                                         
                                        inside and was like you're going to just start
                                         
                                        believing this you're going to have to
                                         
                                        stop being blindsided
                                         
                                        by every single thing
                                         
                                        and I just feel like we've reached a point
                                         
                                        with this where we like know what it is
                                         
                                        you know like to have someone come over
                                         
    
                                        and kind of take over our government
                                         
                                        and do an insurgency in a very
                                         
                                        ISIS type fashion
                                         
                                        that's something that we've been taught to protect
                                         
                                        and defend against and
                                         
                                        turn around and use those same techniques
                                         
                                        on us and instill this
                                         
                                        like just level of fear and that's one thing i hated that's what i hated so much about the first
                                         
    
                                        presidency because i used to live in korea town and a lot of my neighbors were Hispanic and a lot and
                                         
                                        a portion of them were probably undocumented and just seeing the fear and the children's faces of not
                                         
                                        knowing if their parents were going to come home or not knowing if what's going to happen when they
                                         
                                        get back from school it doesn't allow you to live everyday day-to-day life and i just think
                                         
                                        we need to stop acting as if this is a regular thing
                                         
                                        and this is something that we need to just like get through
                                         
                                        and do normal tactics to just wait out
                                         
                                        or go through the proper channels.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think that this is it.
                                         
                                        He's redecorated the whole fucking White House.
                                         
                                        No one redecorates a place they don't plan to stay in.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        So I think if people think that in three years
                                         
                                        he's planning on getting out of here that they're foolish
                                         
                                        and that we need to start acting accordingly
                                         
                                        and start protecting each other
                                         
    
                                        and stop acting like this is normal.
                                         
                                        Spend a wheel.
                                         
                                        I'm thinking about what you said.
                                         
                                        I think it's obviously true.
                                         
                                        I think it's actually clear
                                         
                                        for what individuals can do in that
                                         
                                        to protect each other,
                                         
                                        step up. We've seen that in Los Angeles.
                                         
    
                                        To me, the question remains, and it is an open question, is Donald Trump, obviously, a terrible, terrible mistake.
                                         
                                        Is it a door that locked behind us or not?
                                         
                                        And I think anyone who says with certainty that it's locked doesn't know that, but anyone who says they're sure it's open doesn't know that either.
                                         
                                        And that to me is the challenge of living in the uncertainty of this, because how you're
                                         
                                        react to what Donald Trump is doing, to what this administration is doing, everything feels
                                         
                                        like your response is either too early or too late. Everything. Every response feels like it's too
                                         
                                        early or too late. And that to me is a lesson about not worrying about is what are the steps we wish
                                         
                                        we will have taken if it turns out that things were as bad as they could possibly be. And what are
                                         
    
                                        the things we wish we were doing right now? Well, I think anything we're doing right now is that
                                         
                                        this is the most important time to like step up and stand up and have dissent is just because
                                         
                                        the longer it goes, the more normalized it gets and the more like just hopeless it feels.
                                         
                                        I feel like going through this because I think we still live in this world where we were like,
                                         
                                        oh, the Republican and Democrats in that.
                                         
                                        And it's just like we need to put all that aside.
                                         
                                        There's like us as Americans and then there is an insurgent group.
                                         
                                        and if we look at it like that,
                                         
    
                                        it becomes a lot clearer to me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think that's right.
                                         
                                        Let's spin it again.
                                         
                                        The McDonald's menu has gotten too confusing.
                                         
                                        Good segue.
                                         
                                        Because yesterday,
                                         
                                        I went to McDonald's.
                                         
                                        for one of my secret trips.
                                         
    
                                        And it used to be you get two things for $3.50.
                                         
                                        Then Joe Biden was around, went up to $4.
                                         
                                        You can pick two items from the list for $4.
                                         
                                        Now you can buy one at full price.
                                         
                                        And the second one is only a dollar.
                                         
                                        But every item on that list is not the same.
                                         
                                        same price.
                                         
                                        And so if you want to get four items from that list, I want the spicy McChicken for a dollar
                                         
    
                                        because that's 60 cents more than the McChicken.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're not going to do that, though.
                                         
                                        They're going to go off the highest price item.
                                         
                                        That's obvious when you're ordering two things.
                                         
                                        But what happens when you order four things?
                                         
                                        What happens when you order four items?
                                         
                                        Is it A, $1, B, $1, $1, right?
                                         
                                        or A, B, $1, $1.
                                         
    
                                        See what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        I wish Tom was still here.
                                         
                                        I'm a little bit over a year.
                                         
                                        I haven't had McDonald's in like...
                                         
                                        In over a year?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm trying to keep it up.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to keep it up.
                                         
                                        Okay, I'm sorry if this is...
                                         
    
                                        I don't want to tempt you too much.
                                         
                                        No, it's okay.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I don't think I make it seem.
                                         
                                        appealing the way I talk about it.
                                         
                                        It makes it seem sad and gross the way I talk about it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're doing a lot of math.
                                         
                                        I really enjoy, so it's like a game, I really enjoy the game of the McDonald's menu.
                                         
    
                                        And look, is probably in some ways my hyperfixation on these kinds of small and tiny, objective, solvable tasks,
                                         
                                        perhaps in some way psychologically tied to the conversation we had mere moments before, I don't think so.
                                         
                                        And that's our show.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much to Mayor Karen Bass,
                                         
                                        Tom Papa, and Ron Funches.
                                         
                                        We'll see you next week at Dynasty Typewriter.
                                         
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