Lovett or Leave It - The Fucking Memo
Episode Date: February 3, 2018The Nunes Memo is released and it’s even dumber than expected. Trump delivered a State of the Union and then obliterated any memory of it, per usual. Hope Hicks was reportedly too obvious about crim...es. And you won’t want to miss a shockingly passionate diatribe about the food pyramid. Sasheer Zamata, Adam Conover, and Francesca Fiorentini join Jon to break down the news of the week. Plus who will win the big game Sunday? Will it be the underdog?
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I don't know what people are finding to do in Vegas that isn't a live recording of a politically themed podcast
at the Hard Rock, but
how are you guys doing over there?
I don't see any
hummus.
That's the worst.
I'm going to call out food that's not here.
Feminist AF.
She works at
Abercrombie & Fitch.
She's a feminist.
Is that what it is?
You work for the City of Malibu,
which is the Abercrombie and Fitch of cities.
Okay, I want to bring up our panel
because we got to, guys,
we're living in a post-memo world, okay?
Everything is different now.
Everything feels different.
All right, we've got a great show.
Hope Hicks, Chief Wahoo, and Carter Page are here.
All right, I want to bring our panel because we do have a very packed show.
She's a stand-up comedian and host of Newsbroke on AJ+.
Please welcome Francesca Fiorentini.
What's up?
How are you?
Good.
Stormy 2020, y'all.
Let me tell you how it happens.
You know what?
Wait, hold on that.
I didn't know either.
You know her
from Saturday Night Live
and her hour special
Pizza Mind.
Please welcome back
to Love It or Leave It
Sashir Zameda.
We hugged,
but she's a returning guest.
So good to see you.
Good to see you.
Thanks for having me back.
He's the comedian
and star of the TV show Adam Ruins Everything and a podcast also called
Adam Ruins Everything.
Please welcome Adam Conover.
Hello, everybody.
Hello.
Okay.
Let's get into it.
What a week. Great. Okay. Let's get into it. What a week. Great. Okay. So we're going to talk about this memo,
the memo that changed everything, the memo that started it all and ended it all,
the alpha and the omega. All right. So before we get into it, I just I feel like I don't know about you guys,
but I have been having trouble following the path of the memo. So I just want to walk through how
we got here because it's bananas. All right. So let's start with Devin Nunes. Devin Nunes. Last
March, Donald Trump decided to randomly accuse Barack Obama of tapping Trump Tower and ordering
illegal surveillance of him and his team during the presidential campaign.
There was no evidence of this, and people did not believe him.
However, a member of Trump's transition team, Devin Nunes, tried to defend him.
While no wiretapping had gone on, Nunes claimed that the Trump campaign communications
could have been incidentally collected as part of wider surveillance efforts.
Nunes needed proof, so he went to a secret meeting at the White House to ask for proof. They did not have any. This looked very bad, and so Devin Nunes
had to recuse himself from the committee's investigation, the Intelligence Committee's
investigation, into Russia. However, he simply did not actually do that. For the last couple of weeks,
Nunes has been working on a memo that would prove that the FBI investigation
was a partisan wish hunt. For days,
Republicans have been extolling the virtues of Nunes' memo
as the Rosetta Stone for understanding how
Deep State and Clinton Obama and Rachel
Maddow and Jimmy Kimmel were
working together to persecute Trump. Republicans
who saw the memo called it jaw-dropping,
sickening, and worse than
Watergate, which was also
Jeff Sessions' review of Black Panther.
He's good!
All right.
Despite objections from the FBI, the intelligence community,
some Republicans like John McCain, and intelligence committee members,
Nunes and his fellow Republicans forged ahead and voted to release it.
Today, the memo dropped on Tidal, and... I don't have Tidal, but... So no to release it. Today, the memo dropped on title, and... I don't have title, but...
So no one read it.
Here's what Nunes claims.
He claims that the Clinton presidential campaign
funded the creation of the Steele dossier,
and the FBI used the dossier as the basis
for a warrant to surveil Trump advisor Carter Page
in 2016.
Then, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein
signed off on extending that warrant in 2017.
So they're saying that the entire investigation
into the Trump campaign is based on a Clinton-composed dossier
and is being driven by the anti-Trump members of the FBI.
However, none of that is true.
One, the Steele dossier did not spark interest in Carter Page.
Carter Page was under FBI scrutiny
long before Donald Trump was running for president.
You can tell that Carter Page is someone who
belongs under scrutiny because of the way
he moves his face.
And the sounds it makes.
And the guilty way in which the words come out.
The FBI has suspected
Russian influence on Page and had been watching him
and his contacts with Russian intelligence since
2013.
Two, FBI investigators did
not base their wiretap on Carter Page solely
on the dossier. The warrant
was also extended three times, proves that the
FBI had found enough corroborating evidence
to continue the wiretap. And
finally, three, the FBI investigation
did not start because of the Steele dossier
and Carter Page. It started because of George
Papadopoulos
in his own fucking memo.
Nunes admits that the piece of evidence
that triggered the FBI investigation
came from Trump advisor George Papadopoulos,
not loopy, dumbfuck, shitty Groundlings character
Carter Page.
Didn't start with him.
The Republicans and Trump want to undermine Mueller's investigation
and to lay the groundwork to fire people like Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein
because if he can replace Rosenstein with somebody more favorable to him,
he could fuck with Mueller's investigation from the inside,
which is why they're enlisting Fox News and other outlets to help.
So now we have the memo and we see how cool it is how stupid
does a conspiracy have to get before we don't have to worry about it catching fire with roughly a
third of the country you know what i mean like well i mean we will run wild with any conspiracy
pizza gate went very far. Is that what
we're calling it? When they're like, people are
fucking kids in a pizza parlor or something like
that. Like, I don't know.
I think I had legs. I don't know how crazy
a rumor has to get before people are like,
that can't be. We have
flat earthers.
They're still around. They're still around
and new ones are cropping up.
The other...
It's true.
Just think about that.
There's a new flat earther every hour.
There's a new one.
A new one is born.
And the flat earther thing actually reminds me of this memo.
Because the thing that I love about this memo is the way that they call Steele's research to be biased.
That Steele had a, quote, anti-Trump bias, and he passionately
didn't want Trump to be president. But it's like, yeah, because if you're Neil deGrasse Tyson,
and you've been researching the Earth and astronomy of your whole life, you're going to
have something against flat earthers, you know? You're going to have an anti-flat earther bent.
And that's exactly what Steele had. He was researching Trump for months and months and months.
He's probably going to have, you know, privileged knowledge.
Right.
You know what?
It's interesting.
You're right.
There's not a lot of people who spend two years digging into Trump's financial dealings
and come out saying, I love him.
Yeah.
On board.
What a cool guy.
They always come out screaming, get him away from anything important.
Adam, you ruin things.
Yeah.
Everything.
Yeah, as in the title of my show.
Adam ruins everything.
New episodes back March 20th on...
True TV.
That'll lift out.
Did this work for Nunes or did releasing the memo ruin the memo?
Was the promise of the memo a better deal than seeing it?
What do you think?
I mean, I feel like it's a, just based on the rhetoric that people were using about the memo, I don't think that you need to have read the memo
or analyzed the memo to believe that the memo proves your point.
I think the insinuations seem to be enough at this point.
The details don't really matter that much
as far as what effect it has on people's psyche,
whether they're like, yeah,
that proves everything I believe about Trump or not,
you know?
Yeah, it's a little bit like
the shark in Jaws, you know?
Like, they held it away from us
for long enough to make us afraid of it,
and then we got too long of a look at it,
and we can tell that it was a machine made in 1980,
you know?
We could see that it got stuck.
One thing that's been strange about this is liberals have been going to bat for the FBI and the intelligence community.
And defending their honor and their integrity.
So, Shira, I know you've done work with the ACLU in the past.
I thought you were going to say the FBI.
And I was like, who told you that?
Look,
you are the only G-man we've had on
the show.
But yes, I do work with the ACLU.
What do you make of, like,
I find myself wanting to say
the FBI needs to be protected
as an institution. This is an assault
on our democratic institutions. They're trying to destroy
an investigation from the inside. But sometimes the FBI is pretty crazy, too, and we should keep an assault on our democratic institutions. They're trying to destroy an investigation from the inside. But sometimes the FBI is pretty crazy too. And we
should keep an eye on our intelligence apparatus. And by the way, I don't totally trust the FISA
process myself. Like we're in a position as liberals, as normally people that would be
questioning the authority that we've vested in these things, in these institutions. And now
we're basically saying it's there. They shouldn't be questioned in this way it's a forthright and fair uh investigation
how do you balance the desire to want the investigation to proceed without becoming
kind of knee-jerk defenders of institutions that have made terrible mistakes i mean we both do it
don't we like conservatives and liberals we both do we it's what's convenient at the time
unfortunately i mean i want to be like know, everyone needs to be held accountable for different things.
But, of course, when it's like, well, don't look back there.
Don't look behind the curtain.
Then we're going to defend it.
So I don't know.
I mean, we all have those knee-jerk reactions when it's like it's going to make us look bad.
it's going to make us look bad.
When I was in college,
and it was sort of like the political theory,
the Edmund Burke difference between liberals and conservatives,
where conservatives stood up for social institutions,
that it was like, hey, we shouldn't change anything too fast.
These things are all here for a reason.
That's like the old version of it.
And the right wanted to preserve the order,
and the left wanted to destroy it. And it seems like we're in the opposite of that to some extent, which is really weird.
That's like, yeah, that's something I've had trouble wrapping my head around.
Oh, and one other piece of this, which is so crazy.
This is all to prove a conspiracy that the FBI was trying to help Hillary Clinton become president.
was trying to help Hillary Clinton become president.
The FBI that sent a letter a week before the election saying that Hillary Clinton was under investigation,
while that same FBI kept secret
an ongoing counterintelligence operation
against the other candidate.
And as part of this grand conspiracy,
they've been looking into these text messages
from two lascivious FBI agents
Who got up to some trouble
I don't know what, I can't even remember their names
But they had a fiery affair
That has become way more public
Than they anticipated
They were like
This is a lot more people knowing about this
Than we expected
And they were like
They were at a secret society
and they were undermining
Trump from the inside.
The guy is one of the people
that wrote the letter
that started
the Trump administration.
So that's bullshit.
This is a guy
with a Z in his name.
He's like Peter Sturt
and then you get to
that part of the name
and you don't know
how to finish it.
It's Page and Sturbs.
Schlaz.
Schlaz.
I want to say Schlaz.
Struzik.
Straznan.
Look, we should get Sean Hannity on the phone,
because he definitely knows how to pronounce that name.
Strozik.
Stromzik.
Do you think that Lisa Page, who, no relation to Carter Page,
which was my favorite part of that memo,
who you were referring to, is she like,
honey, can I post this Instagram photo of us together?
Please, we're out now.
I don't know, are they?
I don't know what's going on with the two of them.
This has probably been a strain
on whatever was going on there.
You know, it had sort of like a whiff of danger before
and now it has too much danger.
Now it's too much.
The whiff has become whatever more smell is.
I think the hard part about this is that unless you're actually following,
I try to avoid partisan media generally because the storylines are very powerful.
And so the problem with this is unless you're actually following right-wing media,
you can't actually understand what the memo is or what the point of it was.
When you just walked through it
it was like i was like sitting here like bending my like trying to keep it all in my head and like
follow all the twists and turns so like so most people don't even know what the fuck it is except
that all these people seem to be mad about it and then just the effort to debunk it you have to
explain all of that first and like no one's going to get through that Rachel Maddow 20 minutes
where she's having to set up the thing just to say it's not true.
It's so much down a rabbit hole.
So it becomes in this world of insinuation.
It's mostly because Rachel Maddow starts off every episode with like,
phosphorus.
Where are we going?
Yeah, it tends to start with
and then
the earth cooled
what happened next
have you heard that
saying
or you know like
you
you swallow like
eight spiders a year
or something like that
yeah it's not true
it's not true
did you do it on your show
no
okay you should do it on your show
oh thank you you know what let me write No. Okay, you should do it on your show.
Oh, thank you.
You know what?
Let me write that down.
I got a notebook.
Well, it was, I don't know who did the study,
but to see how a lie can become a truth.
So they spread that, and then people just say it,
and they were like, yep, that's probably it. When you sleep, you just swallow eight spiders
at some point in time in the year.
Oh, yeah.
So I think it's like that.
People don't realize it's eight in one night.
It's a family of spiders, one crawling after the other.
Sean Hannity.
Also, while this was all going on,
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe announced that he was stepping down early.
He was expected to try her in March, but his premature departure raised suspicions that he was being pushed out of the bureau.
This is somebody that's been under attack by Trump for months and that Jeff Sessions tried to get FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire McCabe on Trump's behalf.
Wray had to threaten to resign over it.
Trump's team was pushing stories about him, trying to leave on his own accord.
Don Jr. tweeted that McCabe was fired because of the...
I mean, they're out of control.
Also, on the Don Jr. beat,
Hope Hicks said emails between Don Jr. and Russians,
quote, will never get out, end quote.
I just...
We were all bested by the dumbest criminals.
Yes.
The dumbest collection of criminals and dum-dums
and just backwater goons and Republican discards
and racists and morons beat every person in this room.
They defeated you.
I hope you're happy.
The same people who are like, where are the emails?
We got all the leaked emails.
Look at the WikiLeaks emails.
They're like, well, our emails are never going to get out.
Impregnable.
Yahoo is impregnable.
These are the same people.
Don Jr. or Vonker,
one of the scams, the fraud in New York
they didn't get persecuted before because of
systemic
corruption.
Whatever you want to call it. There's one email
where Don Jr. says, how's anybody
going to find out? The only people who know about it
are on this email chain.
But these people won't
stop emailing about their various
crimes.
They're right. It is worse than Watergate
because it's so much
more boring than Watergate.
You know? It's like there's all of
this, there's all this stuff, but nothing
is happening. It's all about...
Wait, which part? Because there's a dueling Water nothing is happening it's all about wait which part because
there's a dueling watergates right now right the republicans say the memo is watergate obviously
we know russia collusion is probably the real watergate uh it's sort of like watergate if
nixon had a stream of consciousness on the internet we did where where he described the
crimes he committed along the way. Impugned himself.
Which is the hardest part about all of this,
which is everything we're seeing not only corroborates other news reports,
it corroborates the admissions of guilt the president regularly offers via Twitter and interviews with Lester Holt.
Yeah.
I mean, my favorite, though, with this whole thing
was that Trump, in referring to the memo, had a tweet that was something like,
he called this investigation sacred.
Like, we have to, you know, get rid of everything that's in the way of this sacred investigation.
Like, what?
You've been shitting on this investigation for a year now.
And also, nothing is sacred to you.
We know that.
Your family's not sacred.
Your wife's not sacred.
He says the weirdest things.
He says like sacred investigation.
Our sacred flag.
Dude, if he said Big Mac special sauce is sacred,
that I'd believe.
But like, it.
That's the only thing Trump holds sacred.
How did they get away with calling that Thousand Island dressing some magical recipe?
How has the McDonald's people been doing that for half a century?
It's always
Thousand Island.
But they don't
refer to that.
They call it
the special thing
but it's just
literally Thousand Island.
It's all it is.
It's all it's ever
fucking been.
It's got a little bit
of mayonnaise.
Yeah, mayonnaise,
ketchup and relish.
You mix them together,
you're done.
They already have
all those condiments
at the condiment bar.
You can make
your own special sauce.
You can mix them together.
Work on the ratios.
You know?
See how far you get.
I like this topic better.
Can we talk about this instead?
Yeah.
Can we talk about
McDonald's condiments?
Can I talk about something
about the Big Mac
that has never made
any sense to me whatsoever?
The bread in the middle?
What the fuck
is the bread in the middle?
It makes no sense.
What is...
It's awful.
That's the whole point
of the Big Mac.
No.
No.
That wasn't two patties.
That's the thing where she's getting two patties. I want two patties. What is Vincent saying? That's the whole point of the Big Mac! No! I want two patties!
I want two patties!
What is that bread in the middle?
It's filler.
It's awful.
Have we learned nothing from the food pyramid?
Get that bread out of there.
The food pyramid was a lie.
You know what?
I want to talk about this for one second.
I specifically want to talk about
the only good period of time in history.
And it was a two-year period
after the release of the food pyramid
before they realized it made America
gain collectively a trillion pounds.
Because there was a two-year period
where the president and the first lady
and the surgeon general and other surgeons and the whole doctors and Richard Simmons and all of them were saying, remember to get your six servings of bread.
Because it's healthy now.
And so I remember there was this, it was one beautiful year.
And I remember like being over at a friend's house and we were having like tuna salad.
And these parents are at the counter just dancing so pleased.
We're on a diet.
And just putting pasta into their bowls, being like,
we can't eat that tuna salad.
We're on a diet.
Pasta.
That was cool.
It was at one time where that was possible.
They put bread on the bottom of the pyramid.
What? That's crazy. It was at one time where that was possible. They put bread on the bottom of the pyramid. What?
That's crazy.
It was really crazy.
It was wild.
It doesn't get enough coverage.
It really doesn't.
It's a crazy thing.
The entire medical community, the FDA, everybody.
This is the real Watergate, y'all.
They got together and they said,
make sure you get six potatoes every day.
And no one was held accountable.
No one paid a price for that.
America gained a trillion pounds.
It's true.
Oh, fruits and vegetables, two or three if you're lucky.
Six slices of bread.
Potato.
That's what you need to be healthy.
Six to ten.
Oh, are you trying to be healthy?
Did you have ten potatoes?
Are you crazy?
Doctors went on television.
They went to schools.
They put it up on the wall at schools for five years.
No one ever apologized.
They just replaced it.
They just put another poster over it and pretended it didn't happen.
Six to ten.
Potatoes.
What the fuck?
It's a vegetable.
Do you remember the second pyramid?
Do you know the second pyramid they made?
I don't know.
The new pyramid was drawn where,
you have to imagine a pyramid,
but instead of the lines being a cross,
they came down from the top.
So no one builds a fucking pyramid that way.
You couldn't figure out how...
Okay, so there's a 13-degree angle of fruit and a 17 degree angle of vegetables.
You got to make sure you get a cosine of meat every day.
Yes, exactly.
And then they had a guy climbing the side of the pyramid to represent that you should exercise.
And it was like, I was like, look, I know this is probably better for health, but as a piece of visual design, it's very confusing.
Want to know what, John?
What?
That pyramid's coming back under Trump.
Mark my words.
He says it.
Oh, that's true.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the State of the Union.
All right, he's bringing back welding and the food pyramid.
He won't bring back the pyramid, because it's like in africa and he just he's like
nothing related to africa will be in my country you're gonna it's from a shit country get it out
you're gonna say that now three years from now we're gonna be giving him his trump pyramid to
get him to allow some children to get health care or something i Yeah, not too real. Too real. We're gonna
build a Trump pyramid in the deserts
of Oklahoma, in the fields of Oklahoma
to get approval for Medicare.
That's, like, gonna happen.
Oh, shit.
When we come back,
a new game.
Hey, don't go anywhere.
There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up.
And we're back.
Today we have, tonight, we have a very special game.
This is a lightning round game called the Big Big Game Game.
Here's the thing.
I don't know if you guys know this,
if you're sports buffs.
The Super Bowl is this weekend.
Or as they call it on ads
in which they are not allowed to reference it,
they call it the big game.
Have you gotten your pizza rolls for the big game?
You wonder why they do that?
They're not allowed to say Super Bowl.
Huh?
Because of politics.
So here's
the thing I don't know a lot about sports I know very little about it and
so we're gonna reverse things over the next two minutes our panelists will ask
me lightning-round questions about football if I can get five questions and
I promise I really have not seen these questions not seen them
if I can get five correct
in two minutes
which I believe we have on the clock
everyone in the crowd
will get a parachute gift card
fiends
and just so you understand
we only have two parachute gift cards
so we're banking very hard understand, we only have two parachute gift cards.
So we're banking very
hard on my inability to succeed.
So you got a little
ahead of yourselves, cheers-wise.
Are you guys
ready to do these questions? I don't know if you guys know the rules
more than I do. I'm starting.
You start. What is the name of the NFL team that plays
in Nashville?
I can't help me. I don't know. I heard it after. Pass. What is the name of the NFL team that plays in Nashville? It can't help me.
It can't help me.
I don't know.
I heard it after.
Pass.
What is the color of the helmet of the Cleveland Browns?
This is not an audience participation game.
It's for John.
It's for John.
I wouldn't have known.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I heard orange, but I don't know.
How many points is a touchdown?
I know it's six.
It is six.
I knew the trick was for me to say seven, but I'm no dummy.
I thought it was seven.
Two-point conversion.
I know about that.
Name four players in the Super Bowl.
Tom Brady.
Who starred in the 2015 film Concussion?
Oh, Will Smith.
Tell the truth.
That's more of a movie question than a football question.
That's not a Super Bowl question.
What's the name of the defensive player generally considered the last line of defense?
The position.
The position.
I don't know.
Okay.
Linebacker.
Can an NFL game end in a tie?
No.
Yes.
It can?
Boring.
Who invented the butt fumble?
I don't know what that is.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Mark Sanchez.
That was Reince Priebus.
What team is often referred to as America's team?
Oh, I know that that's the Dallas Cowboys and it's bullshit.
Dude, you're too close to getting five.
What is that, three?
Okay, what is it called when a player is tackled in their own end zone?
Oh, is that called a safety?
It is.
Okay, okay.
What does CTE stand for?
CTE?
CTE? C-T-E?
C-T-E.
Five.
Can.
Four.
Can't touch down end zone.
Three.
Two.
Can't.
Oh!
Oh, all my concussion heads know that it is chronic, traumatic, say it with me, encephalopathy!
I am sorry you did not win your gift cards.
All my concussion heads.
What a sport.
What a sport.
Ends in a tie.
When you get tackled in your own home, it's called safety.
Yeah.
What else did you learn?
Your brain hurts at the end.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, guys.
You have lost the big game game.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Big game game.
Everyone is so genuinely upset. This is a very ill-cons big game game. Oh, sorry. Big game game. Everyone is so genuinely upset.
This is a very ill-considered game.
You know what we should have done?
You should have not told them
they were going to win something.
This would have been a fun game in general.
Nailed it.
A lot of stares from this side.
When we come back,
okay, stop!
Don't go anywhere.
This is Love It or Leave It, and there's more on the way.
And now for a game we call OK Stop.
Here's how it works.
We roll a clip, and when it bothers us or we want to discuss it,
we say, OK Stop.
We roll a clip, and when it bothers us or we want to discuss it, we say, okay, stop.
This week, you may not have realized, there was something called the State of the Union.
It does feel like a long time ago, because every single time Trump gives one of these things,
the next day he participates in some kind of obstruction of justice, which is just bad luck for him.
But Trump gave the speech.
He read all the way to the end.
And as a result, he did receive a fair amount of praise.
And Trump appreciated it when he gave a speech about the success he had.
On Tuesday night, let's roll the clip.
But we just had, did anybody not see the State of the Union. Okay, stop. they came up with fake polls. You know, they had fake polls,
but the fake polls were even good.
Okay, stop.
That's confusing,
because he used to have a standard,
and the standard was there are fake polls and polls that show he's doing well.
But it's quite strange to say
there are fake polls that show I'm doing well.
Right?
Yeah.
Like I did well even in the fake ones.
Right. It's really interesting when you even in the fake ones. Right.
It's really interesting when you cut in on him because
you never know if you're
what sentence you're in the middle of.
Like, cause he never ends a
sentence. He's like in the middle, like just
in his life he's in the middle of just the millionth
deep parenthetical comma
semicolon em dash.
He wakes up like, you know I was always
on the... By the way. He wakes up like, you know, I was always on the...
By the way.
He speaks in the form
of like
a racist Philip Glass
fugue.
It just rises and falls,
but you don't know.
You have no idea where it's going.
You don't know where it's going.
That's so offensive to Philip Glass.
What are we going to do?
Took him a couple of hours to figure before they went negative.
You know, they got calls from the bosses.
You can't say that about Trump.
You can't say good.
OK, stop.
I just he's doing so well, even though his vocabulary has shrunk to about 150 words now.
So his his basically what he's saying is that, you know,
CNN, they were all complimenting the speech,
and then they got a call from the boss upstairs,
and the boss said, as bosses say,
you can't say good.
That's how the boss is talking.
Be good, bad.
Yeah, well, Jeff Zucker is known to hate good.
He only likes bad.
You know what's messed up about this clip and what you just said?
No.
Is that we are trained now to understand what he's saying.
Because we've all been five, you know?
In some point of our lives, we've been five years old.
And we know what that means, but he doesn't actually have to say what he means.
It is chilling to think that he has trained us all to understand him.
Yeah.
That's actually real.
Like I'm saying, like a toddler is like, I don't even need to use words.
It's just patting their stomach and touching their cheek when they want food.
Fuck.
It's been, we've had an incredible time.
And just about everybody, and I recognize so many people,
but just about everybody in this room...
Okay, stop.
Stop.
For the folks at home, he said, I recognize so many people,
and he put his hand, and he looked, and he peered.
He did a sea captain searching for an island thing.
He actually couldn't see. Because if he could see, he wouldn't he peered. He did a sea captain searching for an island thing. He actually couldn't see.
Because if he could see,
he wouldn't have done this.
I can see so many...
Wait, where are you?
It's too bright.
We've all read Fire and Fury.
He sees no one.
He recognizes.
He recognizes absolutely no one.
He was at Mar-a-Lago
and he wished his dentist,
he said to his dentist friend,
thanks for all your good work this year.
And everyone would brush past that,
but that's a weird thing to say to a dentist
that you don't know.
He just ran out, he didn't know what to say.
Was that Frederick Douglass?
Good job, he said good job this year.
You just don't say that to a random person at a party.
You say that to someone you don't recognize.
Also, bad job this year.
We all saw the
Jerusalem speech.
The United Shaysh.
Oh, that's true. I don't know that it's
his dentist.
He's the guy at Mar-a-Lago
who bought Twitter followers.
That is a deep cut for maybe one person.
You with me on that? The dentist
at Mar-a-Lago who said that Trump told him
good job this year is also the dentist in the New York Times story by Nick Confessori
who bought followers.
It's all coming together.
I'll write a memo too, Nunes.
I mean, maybe Trump was congratulating him on the followers.
True.
For buying.
Congrats on the followers.
I don't know where I'm going with that.
Of this incredible journey.
And, you know, we have a few terms.
It's always going to be make America great again.
That's always going to be our baby.
That's his baby.
That's his thunder rod.
That's it.
Did he mean terms like serving multiple terms as president or like hostage terms?
No, I think he meant the phrases for which he is beloved the phrase make america great again
is is his baby that's his baby what do we gotta abort that baby on the uh get it out. Here's how he ranks his children. Ivanka, make America great again.
And here's the thing.
Publicly, it goes Don Eric Tiffany,
but the truth is, it really goes Eric Tiffany, big space,
lot of regret for giving Don the name Don.
That's what all this is about.
They go on television because that's the closest
thing they can get to playing catch with him you know think about it huh oh think
about it cat's cradle Don jr. this girl grew up too fast
someone said Baron yeah there's another kid. Oh, Baron, shit.
I don't know where Baron is in the hierarchy.
It's hard to say because we have a president with a child who's young,
and everyone just recognizes that he doesn't talk to him or see him
or spend time with them or anything paternal at all,
and that's fine.
That's just part of it.
Yo, Baron's Luke Skywalker.
He is going to start the revolution.
We've got to get into the ground floor right now.
What do you think about Melania and Baron up there?
I think they're devils.
I think they're body devils.
Haven't you seen the pictures?
When we come back, a new game.
Hey, don't go anywhere.
There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up.
And we're back.
Okay, guys, here's the deal.
We're going to play a new game tonight,
and it's going to be a rapid-fire game for somebody in the crowd.
This week it was announced that Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett,
and friend of the pod, what, JPMorgan Chase?
We'll be starting a...
I love JP.
Love JP.
That dude is so funny.
We'll be starting a healthcare company
Try to lower healthcare costs for their employees
We love disruption
In the healthcare system
Like Medicare for all and others
But until then
We're not going to judge this in advance
But a lot of people are rightly worried
About consolidation
Especially the growing power of companies
Like Amazon and its founder, Jeff Bezos.
Jeff Bezos owns so many companies, you haven't heard of most of them.
And so we are going to play a game tonight called Bezos or Pokemon.
Would anyone out there like to play this game for a parachute gift card?
Hi.
Hello.
Hi, what's your name?
Allie.
Allie?
Yes.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Are you from LA or visiting?
I'm from Huntington Beach.
Huntington Beach.
Dana Rohrabacher.
He's your congressperson.
Yep.
His relationship with Russia is deeply strange.
Yes, I agree.
It's inexplicable.
Except for the obvious explanations.
Are you working to remove Dana Robacher?
I've donated to...
You've donated? That's personal.
Crooked Seven.
You did donate to the Crooked Seven?
Yes.
Guys.
We're going to take down the Crooked Seven
two of them have already retired
well thank you Allie
you're welcome
so I'm gonna say names of companies
and Pokemon and you have to decide
is it a little creature from some sort of a video game
slash TV show
slash 3D world
experience that
captivated people for 15
seconds.
Alright, are you ready? Yes.
Here we go.
Quidzy.
Bezos.
Correct.
Eevee. Pokemon.
Correct.
Twilio. What was Correct. Twilio.
What was that?
Twilio.
Bezos.
Correct.
Ditto.
Pokemon.
Correct.
Espeon.
Bezos.
Pokemon.
Damn it.
I love seeing who knows before she does.
Fascinating.
The people who know Pokemon are fascinating.
Domo.
Pokemon.
Bezos.
Remitly.
Bezos.
Correct.
Vulpix.
Pokemon.
Correct.
Songza.
Bezos.
Correct.
Everfi.
Bezos.
Correct. Onix. Pokemon. Everfi. Bezos. Correct.
Onix.
Pokemon.
What are you?
The crowd has started muttering the answers.
Help her again.
Help her again.
They don't tolerate this shit at Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
They'll break your legs.
Woot.
Bezos.
Correct.
Twitch.
Bezos.
Correct.
Porygon.
Pokemon.
Correct.
The Washington Post.
Bezos?
Bezos.
It's Bezos.
You're correct.
I said Bezos. All's Bezos. I said Bezos.
Allie, congratulations.
You've won Bezos or Pokemon.
Woo!
Probably could have put five more seconds
into brainstorming the name of that game.
Don't go anywhere.
This is Love It or Leave It,
and there's more on the way.
And we're back.
Now for a segment we call
The Rant Wheel.
Here's how it works.
We spin the wheel, and where it lands,
we talk about it. That's it.
We rant about the topic.
This week on The Wheel, we have Hillary on the Grammys.
We have PolitiFact picking
Alan Grayson as
their Democratic fact-checker, we have pollster Frank Luntz, we have Elon Musk,
we have MS-13 narratives, we have the phrase open borders, we have airline
bathroom etiquette, and Girl Scout cookies. Let's spin the wheel.
Oh, a triple bell.
It has landed on airline bathroom etiquette.
A suggestion that comes from Sashir.
That came from me.
When people try to step over you, like if you're like in the aisle or in the middle middle and someone's over here and they want to get out to go to the bathroom,
where the fuck do you think you're going?
You need to get over my body?
Let me get out of the aisle first before you need to go somewhere.
I've had too many crotches in my face or butts in my face.
If I'm asleep, wake me up.
I would rather get up and let you go
than have you put your whole being over my space.
Is that fascinating?
It's awful.
Do you step over people?
I'm going to say that I do, but no, but listen.
I don't care how agile you are.
See, that's what you're not.
Don't try to Spider-Man your way over me.
See, they think they're doing you a favor. They're not. Because they're like not... Don't try to Spider-Man your way over me. They, see,
they think they're doing you a favor.
They're not.
Because they're like,
I don't want to make you get up,
but really they're terrified
of asking permission.
Yeah, I'd rather you tap me.
Tap me and speak
to another human being
for once in your life
and let me get up.
Point of clarification,
what if you're asleep?
Wake me up.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Hold on, hold on.
I'll step over a sleeper maybe.
Because what if you fall over me?
You're going to wake up anyway.
Or like yank my headphones out of the TV or something.
There's too much room for error.
I cannot.
Listen.
There are many people who have attempted to step over people on airplanes and have failed.
Yeah.
And they've woken people up.
They've touched them.
They've landed on them.
It's a horror. Yeah. And they've woken people up. They've touched them. They've landed on them. It's a horror.
Yeah.
However,
I have not spent
the better part
of five years
turning lasagna
and Chicken McNuggets
into planks
and jump squats
to not give it a go.
Because
I know that
Do that on your own time.
I know that others
have failed.
But I am telling you,
if you saw me do it, you'd say, not only should you do it, we should film it.
It's art.
What's your favorite move?
Because I am like Catherine Zeta-Jones in Entrapment.
I would like laser beams to be added for difficulty so you could see what I do.
Because I come over.
But that's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think. You could see what I do because I come over. I don't.
Honestly, that's what you think.
That's what you think.
You think you're also disrupting the person who's sitting ahead because now you're like leaning their chair back and they're like, what the fuck?
I am telling you, I am telling you, I can do it.
I can do it with maybe I could even do it with one arm rest.
You give me one arm rest. I can get up. I can get it with, maybe I could even do it with one arm rest. You give me one arm rest.
It's all core.
I can get up.
It's all core.
It is all core.
Exactly, Francesca.
But you have to go to the bathroom.
Do it.
Yes.
You want us to stimulate?
Okay, okay.
I'll narrate.
So try to make this work on the radio.
Wait, there has to be three.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's over three.
So Shira's sleeping.
So Shira's sleeping.
John is sitting next to her.
She's sleeping so quietly.
She's listening to...
Oh, no!
He's grouchy, he's grouchy.
Oh, no!
John is standing.
He's falling!
No, he's got...
Oh!
He did it, but we all felt nervous.
Everybody felt that a cataclysm was imminent.
Oh, my God.
What do you guys think?
I also feel like you stood up way higher than the ceiling would be.
Fair point.
You definitely crashed into the next aisle.
It wasn't regulation.
It wasn't regulation.
Yeah.
Also, by the same token, if you're in the window seat and I'm in the aisle and you don't pee in five hours, I judge the fuck out of you.
Like, there's something wrong with you and you definitely have a diaper on and that's weird.
I'm going to take that to another level because I don't understand people who don't do what I do, which is that if I'm on a flight and I do not get the aisle seat,
I don't get on the plane
and I get on the next flight.
I will not fly if I'm not on the aisle seat
because I pee three times
from San Francisco to LA.
We're in there for 45 minutes.
I pee three times, all right?
And so if people are in the middle of the aisle,
I don't know what crazy motherfuckers
are taking those seats.
I need bathroom access at all times.
Those those those people might as well be from Mars.
I don't get it.
Well, I usually try to get a window.
What makes you a window person?
I like to lean.
And it is the only advantage that if someone is in the window and they're not leaning, I'm like, you need to get the fuck out of there.
What a waste of this.
This beautiful accessory.
Yeah.
I agree.
I love leaning on a wall.
You know what kills me?
I'll tell you what kills me.
When somebody leaves the window open,
shining light in the cabin,
and then falls asleep,
you know,
and you're like,
you're like,
shut that,
what are you,
shut that fucking window.
Everybody's sleeping.
Shut the window. It's your job. Farm, so that fucking window everybody's sleeping shut the window it's your job
farm some just so
close the window
people are trying to rest
it's the one window open
it's a huge difference the first window
is the biggest delta in the light experience
let's spin the wheel again
sing the virgin america
song Sing the Virgin America song It has landed
On MS-13
Narratives
Francesca
This was my suggestion
Take it away
Because I just think
It was so egregious
How Trump
Scapegoated
All immigrants
By basically Eluding And implying That they were Gang members so egregious how Trump scapegoated all immigrants by basically
alluding and implying that they were
gang members.
By the same token, I just think it's a
ridiculous strategy to try and
eliminate gangbanging
by deporting people's
parents.
As we all know, the
hardest criminals come from really
functional families.
So, that makes no sense to me.
And I think it's ridiculous.
Yeah, I mean, it does seem as though, just to get serious, that Trump has signaled to ICE, send a message that nobody is safe.
And it's scary, right?
I mean, it's just...
And the thing that's so frustrating about...
Like, first of all, they've combined illegal immigration
and legal immigration
because there's now widespread agreement.
I mean, there's basically the workings of a deal already,
which is just legalize the Dreamers,
people that came here by no fault of their own.
We'll give you the border security money you're asking for
and then we'll deal with the rest later, right?
That is the border security.
That is an effort to stop illegal immigration.
But he's combining it with legal immigration.
And so he's conflating those two issues.
But also we spent 30 years building up an extra legal system
for people to come to this country.
We told them to come here.
We said there are jobs here.
Both parties failed for 30 years to create a system to verify
who came here legally because the companies wanted people to work here.
As consumers, American citizens wanted cheaper food and cheaper restaurants and cheaper hotels and everything else that's been supported by a massive economy of people who came to this country as undocumented people.
when there's comprehensive immigration reform,
every proposal always includes a guest worker program,
which is just a means to enshrine a second-class citizenship
basically to legalize the current caste system we have
because that's what the companies
that support politicians want more than anything.
And so when we have created this giant extra-legal system
and we put someone like Trump in charge,
all of the benefits have accrued to all of us.
All of the benefits that accrued to so many people who pays the price.
It's just like people that have been here for 40 years just show one day they're there and one day they're gone.
And the failure of 30 years empowered someone like Trump to ruin all these people's lives.
That and the airline seat thing really upset me.
Yeah, a lot of tough shit happening.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's like, again, like you listen to Reagan-Bush 1980.
They had the whole debate,
and they're basically like falling over themselves
to be who can be more humane on the issue of immigration.
1980, I mean, this is how long there's been a failure.
And they're like, even,
we're going to talk about maybe open borders,
but Reagan's like,
we should just have an open border policy you know so people can
come and go and blah blah Reagan this is this is their god this is the guy they pray to every night
I mean this and so Republicans like have completely lost their heart and I will say it's because
xenophobia is winning them elections and and that's why and so i think that's part and parcel
is like countering the racist narrative i don't think it's separate from talking about real
immigration reform i think so like sometimes i feel like it's just we just over focus on the
racism but i think these completely go hand in hand i think that's right i mean it of course
it's i mean when they turn from cracking down on illegal immigration to cracking down on legal
immigration from the countries they don't like i I think it's pretty clear what they're after.
Let's spin it again.
It has landed on Elon Musk.
A suggestion from one Adam Conover
I don't know if there is anybody
If anyone is more obsessed than Trump
With staying in the news cycle
Every single moment
It's Elon Musk
Like this guy is
Look, I'll give him credit
For half inventing PayPal
The shitty Venmo of the 90s
Right? We're switching to the Cash App Go on And for for half inventing PayPal, the shitty Venmo of the 90s.
Right?
We're switching to the Cash App.
Go on.
And for...
And, you know, Tesla is fine.
It's a semi-successful car company, right?
SpaceX is a successful contractor for the US government in space but like the the
degree to which this guy just says shit and then it's repeated by the media in this in this hugely
blasted way that has no no relationship to reality is insane to me and he is now just in the business
of creating you know business of creating publicity stunt
after publicity stunt.
You know who else did that? Who?
Thomas Edison. Continue.
Yeah, except Tom. Fame whore.
They bear a lot of similarities in some ways,
but let's just talk about the flamethrowers.
Everyone's talking about the flamethrowers
this week. The flamethrowers
are being sold by the
Boring Company. The Boring Company
is a real company, Musk has,
that has a real plan
to build sled tunnels to move
cars under the streets of L.A.
It's a subway for cars.
That is all that it is.
It's a subway for cars.
And he is trying
to convince the city to go along
with this plan.
Everyone who works in public transportation in LA says this is the worst idea we've ever heard,
but he's got the ear of the mayor
and some other people,
he takes them on tours of his tunnel he built, et cetera.
Oh, he already built the tunnel.
He built a one-mile tunnel
to show that the boring machine that he bought works.
I want to see it.
I'm sure it's a very nice tunnel,
but in order to keep attention on him day after day
and to distract from Tesla's problems
manufacturing the Model 3 and stuff like that,
he does things where now the Boring Company...
Model 3's cool.
God damn it! God damn it!
Now the Boring Company is selling fucking flamethrowers
that say the Boring Company on them.
It's this public transportation company.
For some reason, they're selling flamethrowers. The flamethrowers that say the Boring Company on them. It's this public transportation company. For some reason, they're selling flamethrowers.
The flamethrowers are just airsoft rifles
that he bought on the market and had a butane tank to.
Sounds smart.
God damn it!
God damn it!
See, here's the thing.
If he was just being Richard Branson,
I sell CDs and I have a plane, right,
and I'm having some fun on my off time, no big deal.
But the guy is presenting himself as a genius who can
solve all of our problems and
all of his solutions are facile
sci-fi bullshit that
people buy just because he's created
an aura around himself.
Counterpoint.
Thomas Edison
electrocuted an
elephant
in a PR stunt
and that elephant died
slowly.
It's real.
Oh, the S's are coming up.
I was going to say...
That was like counterpoint.
Counterpoint Puerto Rico.
He did do some good stuff
right after the hurricane.
He did a bit.
Did you say he's hot?
Solar cells.
Yeah, he's Tesla's.
Some AI thing that he thinks may be the end of the world.
So Tesla, for example, so what Elon does is he sells the promise of the future, right?
But his actual progress towards the future is very limited.
So Tesla is a great bit of marketing that uses pre-existing lithium batteries and puts them into a car.
Pretty good tech. Great marketing.
This year, their stock
price, their valuation was higher than
GM. They only make 70,000 cars
a year because they're barely a going concern.
GM's making millions. There's a touchscreen, and if you say
play Pod Save America, it
happens. I'm not
going to stand for this. Have you been in a
Tesla? Thomas Edison electrocuted
an elephant.
I don't understand the rules. We made Nikola Tesla
mad. We are that elephant, John.
You rendered him crazy.
We are that elephant. Humanity is that elephant.
It's the combination of space. Elon built a spaceship that goes
up and then lands on its
butt. It goes right up
and it comes back down. By the way,
that woman filming you right there, Carrie,
she used to work for a place called SpaceX.
Oh, very cool.
Look, look, Tesla's fine.
Electric cars are oversold as a way to help the environment
because of the emissions caused by just buying new cars.
But when he's proposing public infrastructure projects
that take air away from the actual solutions that would benefit Los Angeles and then sells flamethrowers off the back of them as a publicity stunt, it pisses me off because it's fundamentally unserious when he claims to have a solution to one of the most serious problems facing the city.
If he actually put any – if he put just 1% of his fortune towards public transportation in Los Angeles,
he could actually help people move around the city.
But he doesn't want to do that.
He wants to build a sled tunnel to move Teslas around really fast for God knows how much money a ride if he ever actually gets it built.
I want to see that tunnel.
Let's spin it again. It has landed on
Hillary on the Grammys.
I don't know.
Can't we just have certain...
I thought it was...
I thought it was weird.
I just didn't care that much.
Can't it just be the kind of thing where you go,
huh, there's nothing,
no one ever just goes,
huh, you have to have such an opinion now.
It's like, because no one would ever,
no one ever kind of musters the energy to type,
I don't have a strong feeling about that.
So the whole internet is people reacting strongly to things
that you just don't need
to have that strong a reaction to.
I can't believe Hillary read from
that book. That vile
book. I don't care that much.
Oh, she's trying to seem
relatable. I guess.
She's been doing that
for a very long time with mixed results.
I didn't see it.
How was it?
I just read a part
of the Fire and Fire.
Which part?
I don't know.
It doesn't really matter.
I think the...
Hamburger part?
Cardi B read the hamburger part.
I love that noise.
Yeah, there it is.
What is that?
It's so nice.
It's like a Nextel
throwback noise.
For me, as a comedy moment, it didn't work
because I think that it was a misread of the audience
on the part of the Grammys
because I just don't think that many people are...
Some people are, but not that big a segment of the population
is just generally thrilled to see Hillary Clinton make cameos and things as a light as light entertainment.
You know, like it's just a lot of like your feelings.
All right.
You know, like where happens to.
Oh, there's Bruno Mars.
There's Cardi B.
That was funny.
Oh, OK.
I'm back in it.
All right.
Oh, God.
I was trying to not think about this for one night, but I hate love.
You know, it's just like not a good, you know?
It wasn't as funsies as, you know, like, oh, yeah,
you know, like in 2008, oh, John McCain was cute
when he had that one line in the end, you know?
Like, it's, we're in a different world.
Yeah, it's hard to see her.
I'm not seeing politics as pop culture comedy fun right now.
Right.
What cameo would you have accepted?
Like, if it were like,
so you think you can dance with Hillary Clinton?
Would that have been cool?
Ninja Warrior.
Did you see when Corden introduced
the president of the recording,
what was it?
Oh, yeah.
Introduce him as if Barack Obama was coming out and people were like losing their shit in the audience
he's like oh just kidding it's the president of the recording I think for
the Grammys yeah cool yeah that the most, the most disappointed I'd ever seen an audience until I saw this audience not
get gift cards.
Yeah.
It was a similar reaction.
Applaud all you want.
You capitalist pigs.
You know,
the whole week too,
it was like part of the response to Hillary reading from the book.
It was like,
how could she read from that book?
The very week where
Michael Wolff insinuated
something about Nikki Haley?
Nikki Haley has
been slandered by Michael Wolff
suggesting she had some sort of
affair with Donald Trump.
A slander on Nikki Haley.
And by the way,
Michael Wolff is a piece of
shit. He's a sleazy fucking guy who wrote a book using sleazy people
about the sleaziest president we've ever seen.
But the audacity of people that defend Donald Trump for a living saying,
how could you ever get behind a book by someone who'd say something untoward about a woman
in this day and age.
Could you imagine?
Michael Wolff insinuated something.
Donald Trump is president.
Get off your damn high horses, you scumbags.
That's all.
I guess that's a good place to leave the show.
Get off your high horses, you scumbags. Get off your high horses, you scumbags.
I want to thank our panel.
Francesca Fiorentini,
Sasheer Zameda,
and Adam Conover.
Thank you guys so much for coming out.
Have a great night.
Thank you.