Lovett or Leave It - The Mitch Is Back 2: Mitch On Wheels

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Trump is a bull in the AI china shop, a Russian fat cat pays for Don Jr.’s wedding, and Kash Patel opens a can of worms on the Hill. This week, Ms. Pat talks about her American dream. And Jaleel White shares some life lessons from sitcoms, and sitcom lessons for life. Plus the Rant Wheel and Second Thoughts? What a show.Hate listening to ads? Become a Friends of the Pod subscriber for ad-free episodes of Pod Save America, Pod Save the World, Lovett or Leave It, Runaway Country, Offline with Jon Favreau, and more—plus exclusive content, including bonus episodes of Pod Save America. Subscribe now at crooked.com/friends, on Apple Podcasts, or through the Pod Save America YouTube channel.You can request a transcript by emailing [e-mail]. Include the podcast name, episode title, and air date. Please allow 48 hours for delivery.

Love it or leave it, it's love it or leave it. What's up, Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It live from Hollywood. I'm John Lovett, and let's get into it. What a week. Over the weekend, Anthropic CEO Dario Amadai published a 3,800-word essay calling for the AI industry to slow down, warning of the danger of what's known as recursive self-improvement, in which AI models train and improve new A-models, which may leave

humans unable to control or even understand these systems. In independent intelligence, we can't control or understand? Sounds like AI is at risk of becoming my wife. Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI and Elon Musk, the saddest richest man in the world, echoed Amadai's concerns kicking off a debate over regulation. However, House Speaker Mike Johnson doesn't want Congress, which has so far done nothing to do too much. But the problem is, I'm telling you again, the guys who are raising the alarm

right now all have very different ideas on what the guardrails should be. There's no consensus among them. And Congress is obviously less qualified than the people who are pushing this frontier to know all the ends and outs of it. Awesome leadership. Everyone has different ideas about what to order for lunch. So here's what I'm thinking. No fucking lunch. Also, that's an argument against any safeguards for any industry. You don't have to understand white dough rises to know that it's bad when there's glass and the fucking bread. Meanwhile, some would rather dismiss all of these warnings as some kind of siop. On the left, that's to avoid facing how powerful AI can be by viewing this as some marketing ploy. But this isn't like when they killed Mr. Peanut in

2020 to sell more peanuts. This would be more like if Mr. Peanut wrote an essay saying that peanuts could kill us all. Sure, we'd definitely be talking about peanuts, but not in a good way. Meanwhile, on the right, the claim is that this hyperbolic language is meant to scare the government into creating regulations that will reward more established firms, which can then afford the compliance costs. And this isn't just a fringe theory. Here's Vice President Jelly Deli Vance. I have to say just personally, I feel a little bit weird

about the fact that you have so many frontier AI tech companies kind of coming to the government and begging the government to regulate them. It feels a little bit to me like a bit of a Trojan horse. It's exactly like the Trojan horse. If the Greeks who built the Trojan horse ran to Troy screaming, watch out for that horse. There could be some guys with swords in there. Meanwhile, President Trump isn't losing any sleep

over the impending AI threat. He's losing sleep because his CPAP machine is broken after he tried to put Diet Coke in the reservoir. Here's our big golfing boy. We're leading China in AI. We're the most sophisticated country in the world. And frankly, I want to keep it that way because whoever wins AI wins.

Yes, whoever wins AI wins. And then dies. Dyes a winner. Later, on Air Force One, the leader of the most sophisticated country in the world was asked about his own AI use. Have you ever used it yourself or have you been... How do you use AI? But I would say, you know, for the most... You can use AI for a lot of things.

What do you use it? Right away. Right away doing this. I had it dropped now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go task codex to build a model for solar adoption by latitude, giving decreasing material costs so that I'm ready for my meeting on permitting reform in the morning. I'm just kidding. I'm going to make a video where I have here. huge muscles and eat James Tallerico like a candy apple.

Thank you. On Monday, Trump took to social media to further detail his argument, posting, quote, the only controller guardrails that AI needs is a strong and smart high IQ president, and the USA has that in spades. And this just in, humanity has fallen. Let's take a moment to honor 50,000 wonderful years of being the dominant species on the planet. the cave paintings of Sulawesi, the great pyramids of Giza. Mr. Bean, the end.

wrote Trump in another post, quote, I am the hoaxbuster, and I'm right now breaking another hoax that AI is going to take over, consume, and destroy the world, and that robots will be marching into our cities and getting rid of us all, which is, of course, absurd, robots won't march into our cities. Their terrifying quantum technology will allow them to, teleport directly into the bathroom while we're pooping. In corrupt wedding news, ProPublica reported on Monday that Donald Trump Jr.'s May wedding in the Bahamas was secretly paid for by Russian

oligarch Umar Kremlev. And let me just say, as someone who got married the same weekend as Don Jr., I should have thought of that. According to ProPublica, Kremlin spent hundreds of thousands of dollars renting out a private island for the weekend, in addition to footing the bill for a fireworks show and lending out his team to plan the event. But that's Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev. He loves love. And it was all pretty casual. The after party was KGB, BYOB. Kremlin. Kremlin is an associate of Russian president Vladimir Putin and the head of the International Boxing Association, a shady sports group financed by Russia's state-owned energy company, Gazprom. In 2023, the International Boxing Association was stripped of its role

organizing Olympic boxing due to its refusal to, quote, transparently explained the sourcing of its financing. I'm sorry. I'm having to have a lot. I'm sorry. I'm having trouble understanding your questions about corruption, Mr. Olympics man. Would you mind saying it a bit closer to open the window? Don Jr. is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars. His family has made billions in just the past few years by monetizing the presidency. Why would he want a Russian mogul to front a few hundred thousand dollars for his wedding? I mean, I get that he has to save up for the third wedding, but still. On Monday, Don Jr.'s bride Bettina posted a statement from the pair defending the Russians largesse, writing in an Instagram post,

quote, it was an extraordinarily generous wedding gift from a friend and something for which we were and remained incredibly grateful. Friendship doesn't require a political motive. Generosity doesn't automatically come with an agenda. And sometimes a wedding gift is simply a wedding gift. Concluded Bettina, Alexi Navalny killed himself. Batina also posted wedding photos with the statement, which of course interested me greatly as someone who, as I said, just planned a wedding. And I was struck in particular by this photo. It is a personalized cocktail napkin with a beautiful quote.

We loved with a love that was more than love by Edgar Allan Poe. And when I saw this, something went off in my brain a little because, like, I don't know, you don't think to Edgar Allan Poe is like the wedding poem guy, right? But the line does appear on lists like the 52

most romantic quotes of all time from books, poetry, is in place. But sure enough, the actual poem, Annabel Lee, is about a child bride whose great, you You knew the poem once I said the poem. But you know, no, it's, you can now imagine, so you know what I'm talking about to say. Annabel Lee is the poem, and it is about a child bride whose grave he visits,

and many believe it is inspired by Poe's own marriage to his first cousin, which took place when he was 27, and she was 13, before she died of tuberculosis, which must have been a welcome relief from having to fuck your old cousin who is constantly asking to read you his creepy poems. Quote the raven, blech. Never more. Can you believe that? This is why you can't just Google a fucking brainy quote and have somebody say it at your wedding. You got to do the research. You got to look into find a nice one. In my favorite part of this story, Don Jr.'s esthetician also posted about the wedding, specifically naming the procedures that the bride and groom got before the event. And I am not judging. I can't because I got some of the same treatments for my wedding.

That's real. Pure Skin, Palm Beach wrote of Don Jr's face, quote, it was also a pleasure getting to know Don and helping him prepare for the big day with customized therapy treatments to naturally define his jawline. Sadly, that esthetician has since died in a freak accident, in which she was thrown out of the window by a Russian guy. And you know what that sound means? It's time for. for a bestiality update. You may remember in August when we learned that the FBI had loosened its hiring policies, no longer automatically rejecting applicants who had committed theft, hired prostitutes, or participated in beastiality. And so ironically, FBI director Cash Patel

headed to the Hill to be barked at by a bunch of senators. Here's in exchange with Louisiana's John Kennedy. What about the bestiality? Tell me what it said before. It automatically, disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it. Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal. The bestiality? Yes. So you disqualified the animal? Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're not going to disqualify.

I understand. You do? I don't. Either side of it. Either side of it? Is there a problem with people blaming the victims when it comes to beastiality? Have people been commenting slut on that? commenting slut under lassie's IG posts?

Now in fairness, Cash Patel is saying something quite grim, which is that people who have been victims of human trafficking may have been forced to engage in bestiality and then try to join the FBI. And my feeling is, if that's you, you've been through enough. Forget about the FBI. Teach yoga. Become a magician. Rent jet skis by the water.

Take it easy. If that happened, do you take it easy? And that's been the bestiality update. On Monday, Kentucky Senator and Living Man, Mitch McConnell returned to the Senate for the first time since his hospitalization in June. And he looked great. The embalmers did a beautiful job. Here's McConnell leaving his home in the first proof-of-life video we've seen during his three-month absence. Are you feeling good, Mitch? Looks good.

Give us a thumbs up. Cut him some slack. His staff is still figuring out which strings control which parts of his body. And finally, during a high-rox fitness competition, in China. An Australian athlete experienced bowel incontinence or shit herself and was allowed to finish the race. This is why high rocks events should not include an oyster eating contest. The athlete Joanna Wetrick nevertheless came in just behind the winner, writing in a now deleted selfie, go harder, go home. A win is a win. Yes, Wetrick finished number two in the race,

and she took home second place. Hey Joanna, I've got a motto for you, go harder, go bathroom. Many pointed out are continuing in a competition in which the athletes all share equipment was unsanitary, disgusting, and perhaps unfair to the other competitors. In response to the backlash, Hirocks wrote in a statement, we ask our athletes to push themselves to the highest levels. At times, they will go beyond what even we thought possible. That courage, resilience, and refusal to give in are precisely what makes elite athletes so extraordinary. She pooped your pants. She didn't land on the moon. Do I get a medal, too?

Ask Senator Mitch McConnell. As the backlash rose, Hi Rock's co-founder Moritz-Furtzda issued a more explicit apology writing, I apologize to all that were directly or indirectly affected, as well as to everyone who felt like we did not handle the situation like we should have. Hirox made a mistake by not reacting immediately during the race.

Firsta continued, I regret not standing up and saying, Hey, stop doing that. Cut that out. Fursa said that he was surprised by the outpouring, and also that he heard from a lot of people. And when asked if anything could have prevented this grotesque incident, first has said, depends. All right.

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Nate Silver, Claire Malone, and Galen Drook from 538. Nonpartisan data journalists are going to take you through what's happening, why, and what might happen next. Every Wednesday evening, they'll break down the latest polling, explain what the numbers actually mean, and where public opinion stands. New episodes out right now. Subscribe to still counting wherever you get your podcast. And if you're in LA, you can still get tickets to this show at crooked.com slash events. We've got some great guests coming up, the very funny Michelle Collins, comedian Lisa Gilroy, and Broadway star Laura Bonanti. All right. Please welcome to the stage. The hardest working woman in show business, streaming and YouTube is Ms. Pat. Good to see you again. Good to see you again, too. Come join. Now, first of all, thank you for making the time.

to be here because you do too much. Sofa too damn low. We've got to work on the sofa. I'm sorry. When you're like old people, you've got to have this shit propped up. Now, how am I going to get out of here? Your little ass can't pull me out this hole out and set it.

Well, that'll be a problem we'll deal with later. Okay. But make sure you bring two strong men because I'm going to need some help up out of this shit. You could have said one more strong man. It was free to say one more strong man. You're not big enough to pull me up. I do.

Listen, I don't look like much, but I do a lot of Pilates. Pilates don't mean shit picking up a big black woman. I need somebody to do weights. Now who scratch their ass. I don't know. I think there's anything he said for functional movements. Get a big, strong guy, all of a sudden, he's hurting his back, you know? Now, your show is nominated for its fourth Emmy this season.

Yeah, we lost last night. Yeah. But you were nominated? Yes. That's cool. I don't care nothing about awards. I care if the check clear. But the people that write the checks care about the nominations.

Well, that's their problem. I did the job. If they get the trophy, as long as the check clear. But I am thankful. That's our fourth nomination. And this is our sixth season. I mean, I'm just not a trophy chaser. I am.

I need it. You do? And I don't, and, you know, the Webbies aren't the same. But, you know, I've gotten them and it doesn't do anything for me. So I need better awards. What do you want to win? Really, anything. Any acclaim would help.

Oh, okay. I'm sorry you need somebody to tell you you're great, but keep going. So you host the Miss, so there's the Miss Pat show. Yes. You host Miss Pat Settles It. Yes.

And Whisking It All. Uh-huh. And I have a new show called America's Funniest People that's coming out in October on VH1. That's cool. Thank you. Thank you. Now, have you considered sharing

some of your many jobs in Hollywood with those in need? I do it every time I go home. I have four, I have seven crack babies. So every chick, white people you can laugh, this is not the 90s. This shit is funny. There's no shame here.

So every time I get paid, I take care of my nieces and nephews who parents smoke crack. So every time I get a job, I'm taking care of somebody crack, baby. Beautiful. I said y'all can laugh. Don't stare at me. Don't stare, Ms. Pat. I feel sorry. If you feeling sorry, write me a chick and we can cry together.

Now, your show on BET, you had an episode. BET Plus. BT Plus. That's on Paramount. And that's on Paramount. Yes. You had an episode about a woman hiding from Ice, and it was a bit of a process to get that episode released, wasn't it? It was.

What happened? Well, the merger came and they said, fuck, no. Everybody's scared of, you know, of the people who own Paramount. And they just, at first they approved it. Then when the merger went over, they was like, no, this is going to be too controversial. And then we're going to get shit down. And we just fought for it. and we was you know because that's what that's the shit I stand for you know nobody should be dragging nobody out of this country this is a stolen country and we should be living in this bitch together by now we should be able to get alone but for some reasons people don't want us to get along and we wanted to do an episode about ice and we did it and it was hard but it was so touching so many people reached out and was like they were so happy about us being bold about it because in the episode my son

was a teacher, and he brings home a Hispanic kid who parents just got caught by ice, and we was there to protect him until his aunt got there. And so, just so happened, the president was in his town for McDonald's opening. Because he liked

McDonald's, and make a long story short, the Secret Service came by the house, which was a very funny episode, and it was very touching. Do you think the merger causing people to be worried about the episode, do you think that was coming from the higher-ups or was people afraid of the new higher-ups trying to stay out? Like, was it people afraid of what the new world would be like?

Or do you think it was actually coming from the top? I just think people were just afraid of the administration. So I just think, you know, when you get to talking about stuff that they want to act like it don't exist in this world, people are just scared. I mean, look, they go on the Internet. You say bad things about the president, you get a knock at the dope. You can say the president shit itself and bang. you get a knock at a door. Why did you say the president shit itself?

Because he be shitting itself. You know, this is a free country. We're supposed to be able to say, say what the hell we want to say. Other than the N-word, that's the only thing to get your ass whipped. Other than that, we can talk about everybody, right? For sure.

We're supposed to be, but now people are walking on eggshell. Not me. I don't give fuck, but, you know. So you have a second book coming out, Miss American Dream. Yes. It's about your path from dropping out of eighth grade, raising two children of 15 to who you became.

Is your current life one you were aiming for or was it unimaginable? It was unimaginable. I mean, I tell my kids all the time, you couldn't have told me, I'm 54 now, you can have told me 30 years ago, this is how I was going to be living. I was going to be entertainment with four shows and four Emmy nomination and I'm creating other things. I did not see this. I mean, and society didn't see it for me either.

I mean, I grew up in a cracking-infested neighborhood. I had two kids by the time I was 14, got shot a couple of time, went to prison. You know, where I come from, that was the American dream for the African-American community. You wasn't supposed to move up. And believe it or not, that's what the community was, and that's how I grew up. But I think I wanted more. And I think it became from, I used to love TV. So I used to watch, leave it to be.

and the Brady Bunch. And good time was on, but I was sick of them black people eating old meals. I was like, do not be scared to fucking laugh. You can laugh. And I was like,

I'm sick of these motherfucking black people eating old meal. I don't want to see this shit. I'm living this shit. I said, why the fuck Beaver got a sandwich every time he'd get off that school bus? I want this white shit over here. So when I was a little girl,

I had a Jerry girl, but we was poor. So we only had Activator. Activator is the stuff that we put it on. I had to keep it shiny. We could only get it once a month. So once we ran out, our Jerry Kerr was just driving the fuck up.

So I was sicker to drive Jerry Kerr, and I said, I just want to be white because white people get a sandwich when they get out the bus. And they fucking mama ain't drunk, you know, because this is decided, this is the American dream they sold me. So I'm thinking white people didn't have no fucking problem. So I would tie a tire around my head and say, I'm fucking white. And then I grew up and realized we all the fucking same people. And then between me and you is y'all get wrinkles before me.

And so I said, I want to be black. So I went back to being black. Were there moments where, like, did you know you were special? Like, did you know you had, like, because, you know, I think you can, there are, I think you can judge a society, not, like, it's not necessarily best to judge a society by, can someone with extraordinary talents, right? Emerge from a place with a lot of hard struggle, right? what you want to know is can somebody get out of a bad situation or poverty without being extraordinary just by working hard and doing their best. But you had real and extraordinary talents. Did you feel at the time? I didn't have talent when I, I had a talent, but I didn't realize

I tell you, I had a baby at 14 years old by a 22-year-old married man. And once I gave birth to that baby, by this time, I had already been molested, I had already been shot, I had already been beating down. I had been to the bottom. And I just remember, Remember having that baby August 9, 1986? And I said, excuse my friend, these niggas ain't sticking their fingers in your ass. So I'm going to protect you. And that's what made me say, I got to survive. Because it wasn't about, I could go hungry because I was a little black kid here in the ghetto.

But when I gave birth to that baby, we all, as a woman, we all have something in us called motherly instinct. And no matter how old you are, when you give birth, that instantly turns on for some people, should for most. and that turned on for me, and I knew I had to survive. And I just said, I got to get a better life. You know, I always wanted a better life, but I was like, I cannot let my baby go hungry. I cannot let these people molest my child. I cannot let these people beat my child.

And nobody had ever graduated in my family. So I remember holding my baby on August 19, 1986, and I said, we're going to break this cycle in this curse that we end. I said, you're going to graduate high school. I wasn't even thinking about college. I just said, I want you to graduate high school. I know if I can get you down there out of graduate high school You would do something that I never was able to do

And so that turned on And then I went to selling drugs and forging checks And then I got back on track and got married And thank God You know, I'm a big Democrat And I voted for Bill Clinton Not because I'm a Democrat because he was cute as fuck Bill Clinton was so goddamn cute

I was like, oh my God, I'm going to vote for this cute white man Who can blow the horn So I go and I vote for Bill Clinton and he pissed me the fuck out. Bill Clinton literally turned around the next year after he got elected and he betrayed the black community. He started the welfare of work program so I had to go get a job. And I was so mad at him. I was so pissed at Bill Clinton, but it was the best thing ever because he made me get

off my ass and he said, you're not going to get these free benefits. You go get your GED and become something. got my GED and I wanted to become a nurse because I love helping people. And they're like, you can't be no nurse because you're convicted felon and all these drug charges. And I was like, now here I am with a GED and eighth grade education. And I still, no matter what in this society, I can't be, I can't even sell nuts at a gas station. I got five from a gas station.

But I went into this caseworker and I would just tell these horrible stories because I wanted them to feel sorry for me. And so I was like, oh, my God, my granddad at hung us one time. And she was like, hung guy. I said, yeah, we stole my auntie food stamps. She was like, how did he hang out? So my granddad would do these practice hanging. Because don't get scared.

Just listen to the story. So one time we stole my aunt food stamp, and he threw the rope up in the little shotgun ceiling we lived in the house, and he put my cousin in the chair. He said, which one you motherfuckers stole the food stamp? But we had stole the food stamp so we can go cash to, you know, buy a piece of can and get the change and play Pac-Man. And we had promised we was not going to tell.

When my granddad had put that rope around my cousin and moved that chair, to me it was 15 minutes. It probably was only two seconds. And my cousin swung around. I said, Grenaddenated, my brother stole them goddamn food stamp. And I was like, oh, never again. Would I ever steal anything else? And so I just, I don't know. I just, I don't fucking forgot where the fuck I was going.

Wait. Did anyone go, boy, you're funny. At some way, like, when did that happen? I told the casework of that story, and she bust out laughing. that's where the fuck I was going. I got menopause and brain fraud. And she thought it was so funny. I'm like, bitch, you're supposed to be crying

so I can get more free shit. And so the caseworker was like, let me ask you something. She said, you're trying to go to school to be a nurse, but you're going to have to be a medical system because you got a background. And I said, yeah, she said, you ever thought about comedy?

And I was like, no. She's like, you're fucking funny. And she would block off my time to report. You know, I had to report like every other month at the time. And so she would block off my time I would just tell her story. She said, you should really look into it. So I went and got on stage.

Now I'm like 24 years in. Have you... Did you ever reconnect with that caseworker? All the time. I bought her car. I call her my mom. She never left my side. She's still in my life.

I mean, I feel like, I don't want to talk to you today. But I talk to her all the time. Was that... And did she see something other people didn't see? Because here's a thing. I find it hard to believe that no matter what was going on in your life, that you weren't just funny all the time. I was funny.

Well, see, I didn't see it as funny. I saw that straightforward. I saw myself as I would say shit, you was too scared to say. So if you was getting fuck with, I'd be like, look here, get the fuck out of his face, so I was that type of person. If I saw something in the room that need to be said,

I was said. I'm never scared. And I'm just like that now Hollywood. You know, when you go on set, people be walking on edge shells. You don't walk on edge shell on my sit. I don't separate the stars, even though I'm the star of the show

from the other people, people eat first and like, no, we fucking eat together. We are people, we're a human being. Why are you separating us? That's why I don't like shooting the show in Hollywood. So, you know, I'm quite sure she saw something to me, but I didn't see it at the fucking time. So you do say what's on your mind.

Yes, I do. Why it makes so much sense that you're constantly settling it on Miss Pat Settles It, which is why it's time to bring down the gavel with our little round of Miss Pat Settles It, a.k.a. the Miss Pat Down. I have a number of topics, and we just want to get your verdict on. Okay.

First up, Spirit Halloween opened in my neighborhood in August. A Halloween store opened in August. We saw people putting out animatronic skeletons on September 1st. When is the actual appropriate time to start decorating for Halloween? Now, I'm not going to lie, my shit is up right now. I do Christmas in October. because I put up like 15 Christmas trees so I want to get my money worth.

That shit is expensive. You know, I bought all of that shit outside. My Halloween stuff is up right now. I was like, what is fuck wrong with you? I said, when I get back, I'm going to need the candles hung on the porch. But you just, I don't want 30 days. I spend a lot of money for this year. I need at least 60 days.

All right. September 1, that's it. Verdict. Yeah, my Christmas trees will be up next month. I won't light them up. But they're going to be up because I'm going to have 15 trees this year. Well, those are just trees then. They're Christmas trees.

But not without the lights. Oh, they be, no, yeah, they're criminal trees. They're going to be fully decorated. Oh, fully decorated. Fully decorated. In October. In October. Wow.

I grew up without Christmas trees, so I love Christmas. I was engaged to a non-Jewish person, and it was the only chance I had of being around Christmas trees, but now I'm married to a Jewish person, and so there's no Christmas trees, and it was the one perk of dating a non-Jew. The one in perks. Jewish people don't like Christmas trees?

Well, so it's controversial, but when Jews have Christmas trees, it is frowned upon. Why? Because it's like, we didn't fight to get all the way over here for you to put out one of these Goyish Christmas trees, all right?

That's how we feel about it. Y'all don't fucking like Christmas tree? No. No, and I just want to be clear. Y'all, boring is fuck. We love the Christmas trees. So what y'all got, candles? Yeah, we have candles.

We like them. We like them, but we just think it's, we have to preserve our culture and heritage by not embracing. What the fuck ever Christmas tree did to you? Well, a lot of people who have the Christmas trees haven't been nice over the centuries. But we love Christmas trees. It's not a disrespect for the Christmas trees. It is that it feels like... Who had to say somebody beat y'all with a Christmas tree?

I'm sure it's happened. I'm sure it's happened. Next up, female Olympians are. pretty upset over Sidney's Butt-Naked ads for sports betting. Huh? Have you seen this? Yeah, I saw that. They are upset that...

She's trying to keep a job. I mean, she's getting paid to promote this sports betting app, but some of the female Olympians are saying that, you know, they don't like that this is being used to push people towards sports betting. What do you think? Sports betting? Yeah, it's an app for... It's a way to bet on sports.

I know what that is. No, I know, but this... them saying she's promoting an app called Novig which is a way to bet on sports and they had to get a butt naked for them spending money i i think so what would you go over there and bet without saying that well i that doesn't do anything for me you gay yeah and you jewish yeah and you don't like christmas no you fucked up that's that's the verdict next up after after years posting selfies. Martha Stewart posted on Instagram Monday. I've been

thinking about releasing my nudes. Is that Mother Stewart? That's Martha Stewart. Who the fuck poor Martha face back like that? Martha about 99 years old. She's 85. Should she release her nudes? Who wants to see that old wrinkle pussy? I mean

that face is tight, but that pussy is hanging. I guarantee you that pussy got feet. That pussy got more wrinkles in it than my motherfucking pants. And that pussy can't even be saved with olive on. I don't get a fuck. How you pull that fayback? You can't, you can't do that to a pussy.

I got a pussy. They can't do that. No. They couldn't do something. No. You get the fucking round. Your click fall off at 90. Yeah. You can't be. And I'm going through middle power. So one side of my pussy is dry and the other side is juicy. So

you got to be careful how you fuck around because that other side get too brittle and fall apart. No, Martha. You see she got them lips and can't suck a dick because she's 90. She gets a headache. I thought you said you were going to be kind of free and just say what you think. I feel like you're really holding back.

What the fuck you care? You don't even like cremateries. All right. Everybody, thank you to Ms. Pat. Miss American Dream is out of store September 29th. Check out the Ms. Pat show. And Ms. Pat settles it on BET Plus and whisking it up on YouTube, which I think I'm going to I want to come, you know, I want to cook for you. This is bad, everybody.

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You should have said, you were right, I was wrong, and that's been that. Up and down shit, I'm old. Well, you guys, you were in a couple episodes of Miss Pat Scho. Yeah. How'd you do? He did fucking great.

Did I pass the sniff test? What sniff? Did my skills hold up over the years, my sitcom skills? Yes, he was fucking great. You, hey, I'm the motherfucker that can't. It was a good time. What's it like working with, Ms. Pat? She's wildfire.

She's wildfire on the set. But it's fun. Everybody on the set is allowed to speak up. There's no phony hierarchy. You can catch a joke from anywhere. Her showrunner, Jordan, is terrific. They got a well-oiled machine. She's trying to downplay it,

but you don't stay on the air for six seasons without knowing what you're doing. Oh, thank you. Now, you're also hosting Totally 90s House on HGTV, where a bunch of stars from 90s shows get together to renovate houses that are stuck in the 90s. Yes.

How has it been coming together for that reunion? It's fun. I mean, I've known all the participants since we were very little, from Keisha Pulliam to Brian Austin Green. So for me, it's my version of a high school reunion. Oh. Just an O?

Because I didn't know the concept of the show. He didn't tell me it was like the kids stars from the 90s. So now you just say, He should pull on, like, oh, I can't wait to watch that. Oh, no, it's a fun watch. It's a fun watch. It's a competition show. So you've got two teams of stars from the 90s that have picked their home,

and they've got to renovated with the money we give them, and there will be a winner. So now, in your memoir growing up Urkel, you told a story about what happened when you got to college, and a TA was discussing 90s sitcoms without realizing that you were in the class. So you're sitting in this class. I, first of all, I can't believe that. I can't believe you're in a college class, and there's a TA talking about sitcoms, mentions you, but doesn't know that you're in the room.

Oh, yeah, no, it's very easy. I mean, hey, you're talking about UCLA, so, you know, class sizes can be upwards of, you know, 200, 300. It's probably a good buck 50 that day. And she just started making her way down, you know, the different decades. And as soon as she started getting into the 90s, I was like, uh-oh, here we go. And sure enough, she brought up my character and what she thought of it. And she was pretty, she was, she did not like Steve, Steve. No, no, she had a very academic assessment of the character that just didn't come from a place of reality at all about how the business functions.

It's really funny when you get to college because you hear the professors give you their academic takes on things. And it's like, come on, that's not the way it works in the real world. So I actually just shut my mouth and somebody told her at the end of the class, you know, that I was there. up to me and wanted to apologize, but it was one of those moments where I was very grateful that we did not have camera phones back then. What did she say? No, she said I was a sandball. I was a, she said my character was a non-threatening character that was specifically designed

to create comfort with white people. She would play. Of course. Oh. So I'm like, that's a stretch. A, it was not, the character was not nearly as, you know, I always call the character a happy accident. You know, they develop these shows, and to the best of their ability, they try to find an audience. And back then, one of the mistakes, though, that was frequently made is, you know, there would not be a lot of black writers on these shows.

And for certain concepts, it would just shine through. So I always say what my character did was my character gave the white writers something to write that I would just kind of turn on its head and make black. and it just, literally it was like, my character really just brought the writer's room and the cast together, and then the fighting kind of stopped. Remember Stefan Rakel? I catch a, listen, the cool thing about it,

I catch a lot of love from everyone. Yeah, that's the thing I probably value most at this point in my life that it doesn't matter what neighborhood I go into at this age. Everybody loved the show, everybody watched the show, for whatever reason, you know, that they were drawn to the show.

Yeah, because I... Like, Stephen, or, Steve or whatever it was that, you know, that I've really landed nicely in a place with millennials that I really appreciate. Well, like, I do that but it's interesting, right? Because in that story, it's like, oh, this was a, you know,

something to make white people watching it feel comfortable. I was one of those little white kids watching it, and I loved Family Matters. And whenever you would get to be Stefan Rakel, that was the coolest fucking thing. It was like... I like the lean-in. It really was. Like, if you

were watching a Stefan Rakel episode of Family Matters. You knew you were in for a good fucking time. In the same way that like when B.B. Newworth would show up on Frasier and play Lilith. You're like, a Lilith episode, this is going to be awesome. But I feel like it was a chance for you to like not be this sort of stereotypical nerd and get to be like kind of actually a heartthrob, which you kind of were outside of the show. Yeah. First of all, I appreciate the words. Thank you. But, you know, our job was to have fun. They would throw different things at me every week. Okay, you're going to play Elvis.

You're going to play Bruce Lee. you're going to play this. And, you know, on Monday, I didn't have the confidence. And by Friday, my showrunner had effectively convinced me that I could pull it off. And that was the acting exercise that took place every week. And we also tackled a lot of tough subjects that a lot of people don't necessarily we get credit for. But forget about the credit. If you go back and you look, you'll see from, you know, police harassment to, you know, inequality in the workplace.

you know, and Laura went through everything. My goodness. You know, we tackled a lot of subjects, but we did it in a way that was intentionally universal. And I'm grateful for that because I'm the one that gets to travel now around the world. And whether I'm in Spain, whether I'm in Germany or you name it, our show still airs. Still airs to this day. And people are learning those lessons and watching those episodes. That's cool. Well, give me a residual check. I know you got them. So you had this extraordinary childhood of growing up on this show, and you decide you're going to go to college.

I think people wouldn't expect or know that you were just going to public school throughout the time that you're doing family matters, right? I love that you picked up on that. Yeah. No, I went to public school the entire time I was on the show. Really? You got to have more of a normal childhood, which I think is really cool. Which was when I look back on it, wildly dangerous.

but that's the way my mama wanted it and uh and you had wanted you to be grounded and your parents did a good job protecting the money too and I think that's important right like you like they didn't there were rules that protected a certain amount of of what kids could have but you were able to make sure your parents put put away the money that you had earned you didn't even know how much you have it was so funny my mom never told me how much money that I made on this show until I was 15

so I'd probably done about 60 something episodes before I ever found out what my salary was but what was even funnier was if I needed money, my mom still was a bit of a control freak though. And she would always just give me $300. You know, whatever I needed, she was like, here, here, take $300. She gave me $300. But like, that's a lot on $1. At the time, no, at the time, exactly, that was a nice amount of money.

So it pretty much covered anything I ever needed is, you know, I would get this $300. And then I remember the first time I ever went to an ATM with my boys in college. And first of all, I made the mistake of standing way too close to them while they were at the machine trying to type in their pin code. And they were like, yo, you need to back up. I had never been before. And then I stick in my card and I realized $300 was the amount, the maximum amount that you could get from an ATM. So that's all she had been doing is just going to the ATM and getting the maximum amount.

So just innocent stuff like that probably went on for too long, but save me a dollar. That's cool, though. But what's interesting about that, though, is right, like, no parent would ordinarily just give their kids $300 all the time, which is it's a strange thing about your success at such a young age, right? Which is that your parents are doing a good job of keeping you grounded, keep putting you in school, sort of raising you well. But also, was there a little part of them was like, our son's fucking rich?

You know, most kids don't get 300, but like we're going to give him 300. I don't know. I just, it depends on what you get into. Like, you know, my curfew always follow my shoe size and my grade. So, you know, in the 12th grade, I was begging just to stay. out to 1230 anyway. So it wasn't like I was really getting into too much. I remember, May he rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner and Michelle Thomas probably were the first people to take me out in the town and break curfew. And they took me to a record industry party that had

a lot of rappers and a lot of booze and a lot of everything. And I was kind of a rule follower. My mom had scared the living crap out of me that if I did anything, I would lose the show. I would lose my money or whatever. So I just didn't do a lot of things until I got into my early 20s and I got overseas and I'll start hanging out with some ball players and then life changed drastically and quickly. Is there advice you would give to kids that are say like sort of working on one of Miss Pat show when you're like you're like you know what I mean? Are there things you would say to like to make sure that they understand? Well the kids on her show first of all are phenomenal. They're all looked after and it will be no funny business on that set at all. Oh no I don't know I told them from day

one if you date you're fired. I don't want no fucking problem. There are there are there are They're all great kids on our show. But, you know, ultimately to any kid that's performing these days, you know, it's a different landscape. To kids today, I really say, you know, teach yourself to be a filmmaker, start creating your own content. But also, don't forget that this is a profession. Try to find people who have done this before you.

They have the experience to mentor you and share because just making skits and going viral doesn't make you a professional. You know, there, there's, there reaches a point where whatever talent you have could be exposed for, you know, lack of experience if you haven't been shown the roads by people who've done it before you. So, you know, I think that's what I would say to kids also. And also do it, don't do it for money. Do it because you feel like this is, there's a calling here. So there is a certain kind of story in a sitcom like that. But also, I think these days a lot of the news seems like it could be from a, sitcom at best, which is why we're going to play a game we're calling. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have the game we're playing today. Okay. Pat, Jaliel, I'm going to read you a long line. You're going to tell us that this is the plot of a 90s sitcom episode or something that just happened in real life. Are you ready? Okay. I'm ready. Fire away. Let's go. All right. First up, a performance arts center is

threatened with bankruptcy unless it agrees to let a comically greedy villain put his name on the side of it. That's Batman. She's like, that's Batman. Is Batman? It's vaguely the plot of break into electric boogaloo.

It's close. It's close. I think that's a headline today. You're right. You got it. Yeah, that's headline. That's the Kennedy Center and Trump. A judge on Tuesday barred Trump from putting his name on the Kennedy Center. Praise the God.

What? And now they voted to close it indefinitely. The Kennedy Center? They voted to close it. Yeah, to renovate it. Who? Who? What? The Trump appointed board. They voted today.

To close the Kennedy Center? Not permanently, but they're going to, they're renovating it. They're renovating it. They're line? They're renovating it. I wish Kennedy get up with that hole in his head and hunt the shit out of them. Oh, I shouldn't have said it out loud. Next up, a young actress gets her big break with a high-profile network interview.

The only problem, she does. doesn't exist. What do you think? What do you think, Pat? It's got to be today. Yeah. That's right. This week, NBC News

aired an interview with Tilly Norwood, the AI actress. They keep trying to make happen. That's nice. Here's a clip. Do you have opinions on what's happening right now in the Middle East, in Gaza? Oh, Chloe, that's a very heavy topic.

And honestly, it's not something I'm really equipped to discuss. My world is a bit more about creative expression and the magic of filmmaking and the complexities of global politics. Wow, that is that is exactly what a studio executive would want every actor on earth to say. And that's the problem that we are a long ways off from AI characters being the main character in uh in shows. You think we're a long way out? I think so. I did now music is different. Because music is audible, um, I think the younger generation is going along.

with chart-topping AI. There's one song on AI that I cannot stop listening to. So I already know. And my sister was like, you should listen to. They're not real. I said, but the bitch is hitting all the right points. Exactly. And it's a song.

Music is cooked. I did not say this applies to music, but when it comes to film and television, we just, we have such a keen eye that we're searching for the truth when we're watching. And I want to know if you turn actors into AI, who are y'all going to run up for an autograph? The bitch can't come outside the street.

Next up, a working-class populace starts a cult in order to get out of paying taxes. Oh, that's today. Shit. You should answer that. That is a sitcom. That's Al Bundy on Married with Children starting the Church of Noam after realizing that by becoming a church, they would be get tax-exempt status on beer purchases. What?

I wasn't allowed to watch Married with Children when I was a kid. I loved Mary with Children. I wasn't allowed. I was 9 o'clock. Yeah, because you're a couple years older, so I was younger than you. And so for me, it was like just, it was like so, it was like considered the most raunchy, vulgar thing. Oh, it was so good. For me to cut off was generally just time.

Oh, yeah. It was in mine, I had a hard cut off at 9 o'clock. I had to do some heavy negotiating to watch a different world and family ties. You couldn't watch your own show? No, no, a different world was a different show. Oh. That was obviously. Okay.

Did you ever watch it? Yeah, we would watch the shows while we were filming. Do you watch it now? I went back and I actually watched the first season during pandemic. Oh, okay. I really, I enjoy watching the growth between episodes 12 and like episodes 18. I'm like a different person. Yeah, I can't watch myself.

I was just calling rurbs. Next up, a nerd almost dies in space after a satellite crashes into his rocket but saves the day in the end. Man, that's my show. I was going. Yes, that is the last episode of Family Matters. I cannot believe, so I cannot believe in the last episode of Family Matters. They send you to fucking space. I like it.

I like it. Talk to the execs. How many season was it? Nine years, two 15 episodes. Two hundred and five episodes. Two hundred fifteen episodes. Yeah. I actually just crossed the thousand episode mark for episodic television this year.

So I've done over a thousand. And there were a thousand episodes of just episodic television. If I count the 520 from flip side, 215 from Family Matters, over 100 for Sonic the Hedgehog, and then all the guest appearances that I've ever done. Wow. That's amazing.

Well, thank you, Joliel. Totally 90s house airs on Wednesdays on HGTV. I want to, some of those 90s trends are just on the verge of coming back. So it could be, you know, it's interesting. And that's also streaming on HBO Max, and we'll be right back. Yes.

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And I'm Claire Malone. We're back, this time with our friends at Crooked Media for a new show called Still Counting. Yeah. Numbers are hard, takes her easy. And frankly, numbers have only gotten harder. What does the data? actually say. How do we reconcile that with the other things that we're seeing in American

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I think I would like to see natural bodies trend again. I was looking at a post not too long ago and it had all the names of Nia and Lark and Stacy. and the Daniels twins, and I'm like, man, natural bodies would be nice to celebrate again. You know what I'm saying? Just a good natural titty, you know, I did, it doesn't even, doesn't even matter the size, you know. It can be itty-bitty. I don't care. It's part of the committee, you know. I know she's blessed with a lot of naturalness over here.

Grinch Marseau. You know, you know, a natural butt, you know what I'm saying? Like all those women in the 90s just look different, man. It's amazing. to less transforming and maybe it'll prevent you from meeting another Decepticon out there. Yeah, that's a good idea. We are what we attract.

All right, let's spin it again. Pat, what would you like to rant about? My kids, I have six six girls and I'm tired of them being nasty. I hate musty kids. And they're just dirty and kids don't like showing anymore. You got to be nice with them when you tell them

their ass stink. And they get mad because I be like, your ass stink. And they want me to see it like a baby, I smell you pooky-pooka. No, your ass stink. When you get hair on your vagina, it's a pussy. So you should keep it clean. And so... You got 30 more seconds.

I just, you know, just dirty-ass kids. You know, I just hate dirty kids. They filthy. They don't clean up their rooms and they hide their shit in their room. and they don't empty trash cans. I'm sick of kids. And I just, I was like, use them. If y'all knew how I grew up,

y'all would appreciate this shit. And they just eat in their room and high shit up on their pillows. I just fucking hate kids. And I understand why people tie their tubes. You thought I wasn't going to make it through. I got a lot of shit I didn't say. I want you know something.

It was never a worry that you would have been able to fill 60 seconds. Not something that ever crossed my mind to be afraid of. All right, let's spin it one more time. I wonder where it's going to land. I wonder where it's going to land. So I interviewed Steve Hilton, who's running from governor in California.

For a POTSIVA of America, we're also trying to get Javier Bacera on, tough guy to book. And I actually appreciated the conversation. He is a guy that's supported by Trump. I obviously think that someone who is willing to support Trump that raises deep questions about whether you could trust them to be the governor of this state. But he reached out, actually. We didn't reach out to Steve Hilton.

Hilton reached out and said, I want to come and talk to Potsay of America, which I actually is, I respect. He wants to, he's willing to kind of put himself in front of a more progressive audience in a show that's going to be a tougher conversation. But I thought it was good to talk to him. And I've been surprised by the number of people who continue to say something along the lines of like, oh, why are you platforming this person? Because I feel like that was a term that was kind of, that's been a bit abused. Because it's not about elevating someone who doesn't have a platform. This is someone who is the Republican nominee for governor. He has a platform. We are trying to ask questions, understand if he deserves another. I think sometimes the platforming conversation

goes beyond, I think, what it should be about, which is not allowing, kind of really drawing a line at like the way, you know, really drawing a line about acceptable debate, but instead just, I don't want you to expose other people to people that I think are wrong, as if you can't trust other people to adjudicate a person's views and make their own judgment in a way that would align with yours. So I don't like this thing of why would you platform people?

Can I ask you a question? Do you think there's a difference between Republicans and Magal? Yeah, I do. I do too. I do. I really do. I think it's some scared-ass Republicans

that will not speak up and sitting in the back knowing that things are wrong but don't have the power to speak up and then you have some crazy mega motherfuckers that's just out front who acting like, fucking food and just said, oh, we got racism back and white boys are cool and they've been

oppressed and all of this bullshit. But I do think it's a difference between Republicans and a fucking MAGA. Maga is racist. Republicans are scared. I think there's true to that. I will say, though, one lesson I take from sort of the last 10 years is I used to think that difference mattered more, that what was in people's hearts mattered more. Yeah. And I always felt like, oh, you can really tell the difference between a Republican that really loves Trump and a Republican who's afraid and is pretending to love Trump. But especially as we've been going through this for such a long time and so many people have refused to speak up, actually what you say and do is who you are, not what you, how you feel is beside the point. If you are pretending to be a MAGA person, there's no difference. There's no moral difference.

You are a MAGA person as far as the world knows. And there's a, Kurt Vonnegut wrote this book about a guy that was pretending to be a Nazi in Nazi Germany. and he said that be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be and I think a lot of these Republicans are what they pretend to be so I know that there's a difference in their hearts

maybe but it doesn't matter when their actions empower someone like Trump you know that's how I feel about it I think it's a I try not to clump a mile because I say some people are Republicans and just and it's even bad when you know something that's going wrong

and you don't fucking speak out or they shit you down and you can't do anything It's like the Democrats. They can't do shit right now because we don't have the majority. We don't have this and that. So, you know, I just, I hate when people clump them all together. I think MAGA also a bunch of crazy, hidden motherfuckers that don't rose to the top.

There are a bunch of MAGAs that float now. Yeah. I think it also matters in like how we try to kind of figure out what's next, right? Because we should remember that even if Trump won the election, there are a lot of diehards. But the whole, but the majority of the country, even, you know, let's say there's a third of the country that are true MAGA, right? There's a lot of people that are persuadable

that we can try to get back, which I think is important and kind of part of what you're... Then you want them back. Well, we've got to win. We need a couple of them to win. Well, I think people are crossing over because I think what happened is the people who voted out of way at first, it has come to regular people do it. And what I was like, oh my God, he's going to do this.

They said, hold on, why this shit at my door? So Nass that they do. And they said, but this ain't like the farmers. Well, this is all going to lose my farm. What, they've been one year for. fucking land for those data center. But you were just too stupid to realize, didn't you? I think the farmers really got fuck when they brought their fake beef in here.

Oh, yeah, that old, that old frozen beef. Oh, that old frozen beef, dude, I'm out. I got a farmer. I got a guy if you need some real meat. He got cows. I'm black. I got everything you need except that dugout bag at your front door. I just wouldn't have thought, yeah.

I don't know, I don't know if you said like, I'm not going to let her get away with that. Miss Pat will have a deep conversation with you, but still try to sell you something in the middle of the conference. I don't say, shit. I always have never, I've just not, I've never honestly like, I'm black, so obviously I have access to secret beef. What? That's not like on the list of things I'm aware of that are like black. That's like, that's like, that's like, do you eat beef? We, I always need beef. But I'm just saying I wouldn't have thought it as a black thing to have access to secret beef. Yes. Is it? It's fucked up out here. I got the good beef. I know, I know a black where can we, where can we buy your good beef? Oh, it's online. I know so I know it was online. We didn't think it was in your trunk. All right, we'll be right back. And we're back.

Now it's time for a segment we call Second Thoughts. Here's how it works. This has been a 10 out of 10 show. All right. You've gotten it all right. Yet the producers believe I may have made a mistake now and again, if you can imagine it. And so I have a list of places where the producers of this show

during the show have decided I could have done a better job. And I'm going to share them with you now as part of second thoughts. First up, I lied about having a wife. To who? To the audience. I did a Russian accent without asking my close Russian friends if it was okay. It wasn't good. It wasn't good.

It was great. Can we hear it? I slut shamed Lassie the dog. Okay. Let's see. Oh, during our segment, I disparaged the Webby's. Oh, as a gay person, I should be more enthusiastic about celebrating Halloween early. You were right, you know, you wanted to celebrate Halloween early, and I was a bit of a, I was a bit negative about that, and I'm sorry.

So you should be, you should have more energy because you're gay? Yeah. We're a sort of celebratory, and we love costumes, you know, and parties. So you're a freak? I don't, I don't think. Yeah. I mean, sure, but not about this. Oh, okay.

Well, gay people get more happy. I mean, my hair and makeup, they gay. They don't like Halloween. Do you guys like Halloween? They like to trick your treat. They like to trick your treat. They like to trick your treat. He said it's so good, too.

With the deep voice, too, we like to trick a treat. Yeah, that's why I want to come to my door for candy. A big old strong Negro. Let's see, I validate, One of one regret I have is that I did validate Your professor, your TAs claim That his character made white people comfortable By saying that I really liked

I really liked that character I don't agree with that I don't agree with this note Forget about that lady, man She probably doesn't even have a job at this point Did you graduate? Yes, I graduated Oh, what did you fuck you go to major And when you already had a career?

It was a bit redundant But I did it to make my mom happy And I graduated with a degree in film and television from UCLA. You already had a degree in film. I just prefaced it and said it was a bit redundant

to what I did. Who the fuck go get a degree when they was already doing something? A boring, rich person. I'll make sure to give you my mama's number though. I would love for her to get that for you. You got a black mama.

We have to fight. Well, good. And I'll tell you something. I actually have no regrets about tonight. Other than that, this show is now over. That is our show. Thank you so much. DeLeal White.

Miss Pat, there are 48 days until the midterms, and we'll be back this Friday with Hassan Piker and Andrew Zimmer. Love It or Lead It is a cricket media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, Bill McGrath, Kelsey Gante, and me, John Lovett. Our production team includes Hallie Kiefer, Sarah Lazarus, Rahman-Borsela, Claudia Scheng, Jay Banks, Raoul Calderon, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGroote. And our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East.

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