Lovett or Leave It - Tower to the People
Episode Date: March 23, 2024Lovett or Leave It is back and this time, it’s personal. Minnie Driver answers our most massive questions. Jenny Yang unearths nightmarish 90s artifacts. Rabbi Sharon Brous talks about empathy, isol...ation, and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. D’Arcy Carden dares you to answer the question, “Was she in this?” And the gang convenes once more to figure out what to do with the additional hour of sunlight that just fell in our laps. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast. Tour dates & cities: crooked.com/events
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What's up everybody?
That's right, I sit on two pillows.
That's something only you know about.
I don't care.
Nothing wrong with being short.
The only thing that's wrong with being short is caring about being short.
If you stop caring about being short, the only problem goes away.
Other than the high things.
Welcome to Love It or Leave It.
It's the last week before Beyonce's new country album drops, so get your horse orders in before
the end of the week if you want to beat the rush. Mini Driver
joins us to answer the big questions. Darcy Carden helps us search her IMDB.
Jenny Yang is here to remind us how far we haven't come. We also figure out how
to save you a little daylight savings time. Plus Rabbi Sharon Brous is here. My My rabbi. And so this is just going to be very personal.
Let's get into it.
What a week.
On Tuesday, President Biden headed to a campaign stop in Las Vegas where he laid out his economic
agenda, including $258 billion in housing investments.
Said Biden, wiping flop sweat off his brow, it would have been closer to $300 billion,
but that blackjack table was calling my name.
I remember when I bought my first home, said Biden.
I ran those horses till they nearly keeled over,
but I got every one of those stakes in the ground.
If anyone tells you the McGraw clan got there first
before they mysteriously disappeared,
you tell them that's McGraw clan propaganda.
That's Biden land.
From the turn outside Beckham all the way to the Southern Pass,
I'd sooner give it back to the Chickasaw
than let those filthy McGraw bastards anywhere near my land.
Biden concluded to a stunned silence
while holding an ice cream cone.
The money Biden announced would go towards
mortgage relief credits, down payments
to help first generation homeowners,
lower closing costs and encouraging competition
in the housing market.
And for those who live on the coast,
some of the most delicious avocado toast
you'd ever did see.
Ooh, a poached egg, a little sea salt. Now that's living. Not living in a house, but
living.
In some sense of the word.
Meanwhile, the Biden administration on Wednesday issued its most significant climate regulation
yet an EPA rule to accelerate our national transition to electric cars. Here's how it
works. Going forward, non-electric cars can still have cup holders, but the cup holders will just be a little too small. Just
barely. Just barely. So that at first you're like, huh. This McDonald's cup is unusually
big I guess, but then you realize it's every cup. No cup fits. You have to wedge the cup
between your thighs and it shouldn't be as annoying as it is. It certainly shouldn't
be the thing that convinces you to get a whole new zero emission car, but it is.
The cup holders are just a hair too small, and that's how we solve climate change.
Nice.
By 2032, the rule, which tightens rules on tailpipe pollution over time, would likely
mean over half of new cars sold in the US would be electric, and we would avoid pumping
seven billion tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere over the next 30 years, unless
Taylor Swift announces a new tour.
It's like how after 2016, there was a certain amount of time before you could joke about
Hillary.
We're still in for some reason in that phase with Taylor Swift.
President Biden was spotted wearing black Hax running shoes with his suit.
And the aging conservative white male fashion police of the New York Post have informed readers that this is bad and a cause for concern.
If we're going to be concerned about this, it should be about President Biden falling into his street wear era.
It's a slippery slope. Before you know it, the commander in chief is wearing a supreme bucket hat and an off-white belt bag to a state dinner.
I'll tell you something, I'm glad to see he's in sneakers. Dress shoes are fucking
stupid. Every sneaker brand should make the most comfortable walk-on pillows, two
inches of cushion running sneakers that are meant to be worn with suits. What are
we doing here? Oh, we have the shoes that we could wear and walk around in all day
without a cramp or twinge of pain that we love to wear, and then we have our business shoes that are just worse,
but they convey business.
When you go to the airport, they have a sign that tells you not to yell at strangers.
We have to ring up our own groceries at the grocery store.
There's only one rhino left.
It's over.
I'm wearing my Brooks Ghost Max's to weddings in bar mitzvahs.
Speaking of Jewish performances of manhood,
Florida Democrat Jared Moskowitz this week
called House Republicans bluff in their impeachment inquiry
into President Biden, daring House Oversight Committee Chair
James Comer to call for a vote.
Moskowitz said this at Wednesday's impeachment hearing.
Let's just do the impeachment.
I mean, why continue to waste millions
of dollars of the taxpayers' money if we're going to impeach
because you
believe, you've shown he's committed a high crime and misdemeanor, what are you
waiting on? I like his energy here. Like when you've been texting with someone
from an app for a while and they keep saying they want to meet up but it's
been weeks now and you're clearly never going to meet and finally you're just
like how about right now? Let's get Haley Bieber smoothies right now. What's wrong
with right now? Meet me in Arowana in 15 minutes. You're so interested.
Right now.
Let's go.
And then they block you.
And you finally know peace.
Moskowitz even offered to help get the vote started.
They haven't proven it, right?
They haven't proven he committed a high crime and misdemeanor.
Otherwise, we would call for impeachment.
So I just look, you know, the chairman knows me well.
I mean, I'm just here to help him. Right. And so I just think we should do it today. Let's just
call for it. I'll make the motion. Mr. Chairman, I want to help you out. You can second it.
Right. Like make the motion to impeach President Biden. Go ahead. It's your turn. You second
it. No, nothing. Okay. We got nothing. Fantastic. You ever watch someone and you agree with them and everything they're saying,
but you also know they got dunked in the toilet in high school?
And really, aren't I just talking about myself right now?
And isn't that what bothers me? Am I Jared Moskowitz?
What could have led me there and what could have led him here?
I don't know. Fucked me up today. We would be remiss not to mention that Moskowitz, doing heroic work up there, also put on a
poot mask to attend the hearing.
I just came to thank James Comer for taking all of our intelligence and using it in the committee.
Then to really sell the impression, he poisoned several journalists. As Republicans were on defense over their flagging effort to impeach Joe Biden, Donald Trump made headlines over his
embrace of a national abortion ban. In a Tuesday radio interview, he said that he could be on board
for a 15 week ban.
Oh yeah, the hardliners love it.
Gloria Steinem was shaking hands with Mike Johnson, Merle Hoffman was clinking champagne
glasses with Tim Scott, pretty soon everybody was making out and the deal was done.
And Trump's charm offensive continued when he sued George Stephanopoulos, also known
as George Slopinopoulos, which didn't mean anything but was good, for defamation over the
host's on-air claim that judges and two separate juries have found Trump liable
for rape. In fact, Trump was found liable for sexual abuse. Trump wants everyone to
be very clear about this. He was found liable for sexual abuse. If you don't
want Trump's lawyers to come after you, be sure to spread the word. He is a
sexual abuser who was found liable for doing abuse of a sexual nature
Speaking of consequences if Trump does not post a nearly half a billion dollar bond on Monday
New York Attorney General Letitia James the legend who doesn't have a political bone in her body
May begin seizing Trump's assets including Trump Tower Trump
It seems cannot raise that bond,
leaving him with dwindling options,
which include filing for bankruptcy,
finding a wealthy backer,
hoping an appeals court reduces the bond,
or doing nothing and letting her take the building.
In a week, this could be Trump Tower.
For those listening,
here are some of the new services on offer at Gay Tower.
Free abortions, paper straw factory.
There's also a sign that says,
become trans today.
The Ibram X. Kendi Center for the Study of Why White People
Should Feel Bad All the Time.
And a sweet green.
I don't like sweet green.
Not enough dressing.
It's like, we get it, you're healthy.
Calm down.
You know what I mean?
I'm here for a salad.
I want to live a long time, but not forever.
There was a story about how sweet green has never been profitable and there's all
these plans for like to get rid of the fucking employees and replace them with robots and
it's like hey, hey, hey, CFO, make the dressing cups a little bit bigger so people have a
bright fucking day.
I'm actually not a come up in this guy.
It's weird based on my personality you'd sort of think I would be like I know I read as
a petty bitch.
But I truly have never really cared what happens to Trump.
I just want Trump to stop happening to us.
But I'm a full resistance lib when it comes to taking that building.
I don't care about the politics, just take that fucking building.
And honestly, the type A nerds from coast to coast who've been paying attention nonstop
for the better part of a decade, we deserve this.
We deserve to see a gold toilet being carried out of that building and turned into a succulent
plan to write a lesbian-owned coffee shop slash pit bull rescue center slash dildo repair
co-op.
Could you imagine it?
And it's not just Trump who's on the hook for various crimes.
Former Trump aide Peter Navarro this week began serving his four-month prison sentence for refusing to comply with a congressional
subpoena.
Navarro has been advised to build up his reputation in prison on day one by singling out the worst
person there, walking right up to him and saying, I'd like to offer you foreign policy
advice regarding China.
The prison where Navarro will serve his term is next to Miami Zoo.
Sam Mangel, the prison consultant Navarro hired to help him prepare, told CNN, not only can you hear the lions, you can hear
the lions roar every morning.
Stop making it sound cool.
In the days leading up to the primary, the AP reported that someone with access to Moreno's
email had, in 2008, created a profile on adult friend finder
seeking men for one-on-one sex.
Oh, that's where I know him from.
I knew he looked familiar, said Lindsey Graham.
The photo-less user Nardo19672,
which happens to be Moreno's birth year and month,
wrote, hi, looking for young guys
to have fun with while traveling.
Bernard or Bernie or Nardo, if you're a young guy up for some fun, denied that he created
the account through a lawyer Marino claimed it was an ill-conceived prank by a former
intern.
What's the joke exactly?
Is that the joke?
So what's the joke?
Then what's the joke? Then what's the joke? Moreno's lawyer even provided a statement
by the former intern, a man named Dan Ricci, who said, I am thoroughly embarrassed
by an aborted prank I pulled on my friend and former boss, Bernie Moreno,
nearly two decades ago. 16 years. Calm down. Two decades ago. Okay. The prank
being that Moreno was actually more interested in group stuff.
Classic intern stuff.
You know how people with no job security are always going on to fucking gay sex websites,
jokes soliciting gay sex on their boss's behalf.
That story didn't convince everyone,
including one Trump ally who told a reporter,
"'If you believe Bernie Moreno's story,
"'that in 2008 a rogue intern from Ohio University
"'created a gay dating account for Bernie
"'right next to Bernie's parents' house in Florida,
"'I've got some oceanfront property in Ohio to sell you.'
"'And we'll buy it!' screamed a retired contractor at a Trump rally outside Phoenix
as his wife ran to get her checkbook from their Dodge Durango with seats seven,
but has never carried more than two of them because their son doesn't visit anymore
because his wife has gone crazy with the politics.
Just a reminder.
Bernie Moreno is a right-wing sleaze.
He is for a national abortion ban.
He was for a trans healthcare ban that the Republican governor of Ohio vetoed for being
too extreme.
He has fully embraced Trump.
Sherrod Brown is one of the best senators you could ever hope to have.
He is the last statewide Democrat serving in Ohio, and he has managed to stay in office
without selling out his principles, and we all need to do everything we can to keep him in office.
If you go to VoteSaveAmerica.com you can donate to our Senate fund and if you volunteer you
may even find some young guys to have fun with while traveling.
During an interview at Harvard earlier this month, Trump's son-in-law and Gumby's evil
human twin Jared Kushner said this.
Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to, if people would focus on kind
of building up, you know, livelihoods.
You think about all the money that's gone into this tunnel network and into all the
munitions, if that would have gone into education or innovation, what could have been done?
And so I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but I think from
Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out
and then clean it up.
What a sick fuck.
It's a plan Kushner has taken to calling
from the river to the Airbnb.
Remember when Kushner said he could solve the Middle East
because he had read 25 books about it?
I think I could speak for almost everyone
when I say that I would like to see Jared
hit over the head by these books, one by one.
It won't solve anything, but it's something. Where would those
Palestinians go you ask? No worries Jared has a plan and it's to bulldoze
something in the Negev and dump Gaza's civilians there. Anyway fun fact about
Jared Kushner, the New York Times reported in 2017 that when Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was visiting New York back in the 90s he would stay
at the Kushner's home and sleep in the teenage Jared's bedroom while Jared slept in the basement.
So you'd think Kushner would have some sympathy for people who are sick of having their homes
taken over by right-wing Israelis.
But somehow, no.
Truly just a dumb fucking monster.
Last week, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called for new elections in Israel, saying
Netanyahu had lost his way.
Netanyahu forcefully rejected the claim, saying,
I've always been evil.
So on Wednesday, Netanyahu railed against Schumer in a remote closed-door meeting with Senate Republicans,
accusing him of interfering with another country's politics by interfering with another country's politics.
On Thursday, House Speaker Mike Johnson said he'd be absolutely thrilled to have Benjamin Netanyahu come speak directly to Congress.
I would love to have him come and address the joint session of Congress. We'll certainly extend that invitation.
Continued Johnson, we'll make sure to have something here he can eat. A nice box of matzah, some of those fish blobs, a brisket. Am I pronouncing that right? Brisket?
Added Johnson, turning to an aide, he speaks English, right? The whole thing won't be in Jewish or whatever. Though it was hard to hear Johnson over the sound of his church's patented
Spotted Jew app blowing up in his pants pocket.
Meanwhile, as Republicans jockey for the approval of Israel's right-wing leader,
2.2 million people in Gaza are at risk of famine. 70% of northern Gaza is already starving. And
while the UN says they have enough aid near the Gaza border, they cannot get it to those in need because of the inspection process by Israel, the destruction
of roads inside Gaza and the ongoing fighting.
The only way to get food and aid to those in need is through a ceasefire.
On Wednesday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that the United States had submitted
a draft resolution to the UN calling for an immediate ceasefire that would be tied to
the release of hostages held by Hamas.
That's good news, but I wish the draft didn't end with, no worries if not, LOL.
When asked if the United States could effectively push Israel towards a ceasefire while both
supporting them financially and vetoing every UN resolution that asks for a ceasefire, Blinken
replied that the new resolution asks for an immediate ceasefire tied to the release of
hostages and we very much hope that countries will support that.
Blinken also affirmed that the US will continue to support Israel and its right to defend itself
to make sure that October 7th never happens again,
but at the same time it's imperative that the civilians who are in harm's way
and who are suffering so terribly that we focus on them,
that we make them a priority protecting the civilians, getting them humanitarian assistance.
If only we had some way of leveraging the vast amount of money and supplies we send to Israel's military,
some way to tie our support of this country to what we believe is not only morally necessary
but also in Israel's best interest.
Why are we always beseeching?
George H.W. Bush put conditions on aid for Israel and he wasn't some blib.
He used to run the CIA.
You make a joke about this.
The Supreme Court on Tuesday gave Texas a temporary green light to enforce its new immigration
law that allows local police to arrest people suspected of crossing the border illegally.
But don't worry, law enforcement needs to have a compelling reason to suspect them.
Something like, speak Spanish, or looks like they might speak Spanish.
As of today, the law is back on hold after the Supreme Court returned the case to the
Fifth Circuit, which had previously blocked a lower court ruling blocking the law, but
now blocked the law itself while scheduling arguments.
If you're confused, don't worry, a local cop in Amarillo, Texas will surely handle this
legal morass deftly.
The law was in effect for just hours, giving local law enforcement blue balls, which interestingly
enough is what we'll all have to show at the border to cross into Mike Johnson's America.
Speaking of flooded borders, more than 150 of Washington, D.C.'s famed cherry blossom trees will be chopped down later this spring in order to build higher seawalls around the Tidal Basin.
Said a young George Washington,
I cannot tell a lie, we need to build higher seawalls around the Tidal Basin.
The land around the basin has sunk five feet over the last century, and climate change
has caused the water level to rise by more than a foot.
As a result, sections of the walkway
now flood every day at high tide.
But it's been beautiful to see how the tourists band together
and help each other keep their iPads above water
until the daily helicopter arrives.
Alabama Governor Kay Ivey on Wednesday
signed a bill into law that bans diversity, equity,
and inclusion programs at public schools and universities.
The law also requires public universities to designate restrooms on the basis of biological sex,
defined by Alabama law as the physical condition of being male or female, as stated on the individual's original birth certificate.
And with that, we've solved our state's last two problems,
said the governor of the state ranked 40th in crime, 44th in education, 44th
in healthcare, and 47th for its environment.
The Justice Department sued Apple on Thursday, joining 16 states and Washington, D.C. in
an antitrust lawsuit that accuses the company of building and maintaining a smartphone monopoly,
finally answering the age-old question, who Apple watches the Apple Watchers?
Come on back.
Come on back. Watchers.
The government outlined a number of what it believes are anti-competitive practices like
blocking other companies from offering apps to compete with Apple Wallet and making other
Apple products easier to connect to iPhones rather than rival smartphones.
But here's what's interesting, if you read the lawsuit while wearing an Apple Vision
Pro it's like you're reading it on the moon. The suit also argues that Apple undermines the ability
of iPhone owners to text with Android owners
using green bubbles to signal the inferiority
of other smartphones.
But as anyone who's ever bullied an Android user knows,
the Samsung freaks undermine themselves.
Oh, tell me more about your 40 camera lenses.
I'll be over your air dropping a screenshot of a meme
to a selection of strangers.
It's called networking.
On Tuesday, Beyonce posted that her forthcoming album,
Cowboy Carter, was born out of an experience
that I had years ago where I did not feel welcomed.
And it was very clear that I wasn't.
Ah, I see Beyonce also attended cool Devin's bar mitzvah
that his parents made him invite the whole class to.
I've always said that Beyonce and I were a lot alike.
Too hot, astonishingly talented outcasts.
Shut up.
Fans believe Beyonce was referring to her performance of Daddy Lessons with the Chicks
at the 2016 Country Music Awards, which drew backlash even before she hit the stage.
That happened on November 2nd, 2016 though.
So I understand if your memory
of the 2016 Country Music Awards has been obliterated
by what happened six days later.
That's what happened to me.
I was like, oh my God.
Remember that?
There was a whole controversy and then gone it went.
And finally, wildlife conservationists in
southwest Florida found a record 11 Burmese pythons in a single day last
month. Even better, they were all having sex with each other. The pythons were
found in three separate mating balls, each of which contained one female snake
and a pile of male snakes. Python, more like-fuckathon.
Thank you, Chris.
Don't let the name mating ball fool you.
It's just a heap of snakes, not a sphere.
They call it a mating ball because the snakes are having a ball
fucking and sucking each other.
Up next, we're unearthing outdated relics with Jenny Yang. Hey, don't go anywhere.
There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up.
And we're back.
Tonight we welcome a tremendous comedian, Jenny Yang, back to the Love It or Leave It
stage.
Most people know Jenny as a fantastic standup, but some might not be aware that she's also an archaeologist of the very very recent past
Please put your hands together and welcome. Dr. Yang to the stage for very important segment
We're calling the 90s are ancient history. Welcome to the stage. Dr. Jenny Yang
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This week Oprah Winfrey released a special titled
an Oprah special, Shame, Blame and the Weight Loss Revolution
in which she discusses using medications like
Ozempic, Monjaro and Wigovie.
People have a lot of mixed feelings about Turnpage
using weight loss injections, at least in part because they are so new.
You know what's not new?
What?
This TV Guide cover from October 1990
I found as a part of my research.
Oh, what the fuck is this?
For listeners at home, this is a TV Guide cover
with a photo of Oprah Winfrey,
who looks great by the way,
calling her bumpy, lumpy and downright dumpy.
On the cover of TV Guide?
I'm sorry, I didn't realize they had magazines
in the Stone Age, how dare you?
Children saw this cover people,
children and their cutest ones.
Truly a blind read.
I just...
Incredible.
In 1990, they put a picture of Oprah on TV Guide.
This is just where you would go to find out what time things were.
This was just a list of things and what time they were on.
They're like, you need to know, Oprah's fucking bumpy, lumpy and dumpy and frumpy.
This is what we saw at the supermarket checkout line,
isn't it?
That is absolutely wild.
At eye level, isn't it?
I had this accent approved by Minnie Driver in the back.
Just FYI.
I'm sure she was being nice.
Excuse me, I am a trained archaeologist.
Thank you, Jenny.
Up next, it's Minnie Driver.
And we're back.
If you're here for the Tiny Chauffeur Convention,
that's actually tomorrow night.
But since you've already got through the monologue,
help us welcome to the stage the incredible Minnie Driver.
Thank you for being here.
Hi, thank you so much. It's so nice of you to join us.
Recently, you were on the Jennifer Hudson show
and shared the advice you would give
your 25 year old self after getting dumped by Matt Damon.
What did I say?
She would tell her 25 year old self after Matt Damon. Oh Christ, what did I say? Uh... You know what? She would tell her 25-year-old self after Matt...
Oh, Christ.
What did I say?
It was under duress.
Look, I look like a hostage.
You look stunning.
Honestly, you look fantastic.
I look good because of the...
It takes a lot of people and a ton of makeup to look that good.
Now, but what did I tell myself?
I don't know.
I don't remember.
You checked. This is the... Like, I'm... What did I tell myself? I don't know. You tell me. I don't remember.
This is like, like, I'm, what did I tell myself?
Oh, I think I said what my father said to me,
which is essentially, maybe I didn't say this, but this is what I should have said.
Don't worry about it, because it will happen again.
He was like, the best thing I can tell you is that you
will feel this way about somebody else. And I remember thinking it was so cruel, but it
was absolutely true. And it's very good advice. But that's not what I said other than Jennifer
Hudson's show. I'm so sorry. I can't remember what it was.
Well, it's better to have the good advice then.
Don't you think?
Yeah, I'm glad we got the good advice.
You got the good advice. I think it was probably something comforting. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Olivia Rodrigo has that
song Driver's License and it's about sort of a breakup, but it's like a high school breakup.
And it's like, this doesn't matter. It's like, oh, I know it feels like big emotions,
but you're in high school. Don't worry about it. That's who cares. That's exactly it. It'll be
fine. Like imagine if like you actually, you know, it's like, it's a high school guy. He sucks.
He's a little dumb dumb.
That's not the love of your life.
No, exactly. But you can't hear that when you're a teenager. And by the way, that's
also the venerable Taylor Swift's, you know's entire canon up until a certain point is, she makes
a good point that she was on the bleachers, whatever it was, I don't remember what it
was.
Yeah, something about the bleachers.
Something about the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers.
Someone's on the bleachers. Someone's on the bleachers. Someone's on the bleachers. Someone's on the bleachers. Someone's on the features, teachers, beaches, she's on the bleachers, I'm wearing hats.
I don't think that's it.
Now are there any good songs about having absolutely zero romantic experience in high
school?
Because that's the song you really need.
That's a song I think a lot of kids need to hear.
What rhymes with I'm not getting any?
Right. Olivia Rodrigo sings a song about having a breakup. What about all the kids are like,
oh, we are just bragging about having had a boyfriend.
It's so true. Actually, that's really true. It's the way that when people say that they've
been reincarnated and that they remember their past lives and like that all was like a high priestess and it's like well somebody had to be
the serving person like it was yeah I want to hear everyone can't have been
Joan of Arc no of course they weren't like you were the person cleaning up
after the Pharaoh's family had left three weeks later. Right. Right. I mean you, particularly.
No, for sure.
For sure.
I always struggle with the meaning of reincarnation,
because if you don't remember it, then it has no...
It's like, what kind of punishment is that?
Your new movie.
Yes.
I will explain the movie to you, because it's so...
I didn't know enough about this.
I mean, I was very young. You probably weren't even born when this was happening. 1981, when were
you born?
I was born in 1982.
So the year before you were born, everyone was really, really against what was happening
in South Africa. And the world... I love that I'm telling all of you this, but like, because I'm sure lots of you remember this, but the South African rugby tour was
not welcomed anywhere in the world, but New Zealand welcomed them. And it's the national
game of New Zealand. And there were huge riots because the Maori people and lots of white
New Zealanders felt that they should stand with the black South Africans
and show solidarity. And there were huge protests and really violent for a very, very peaceful
country. And this is the backdrop of this film of a boy who is a Maori boy with a white
mother and his brother who are sort of trying to find their way in this complicated moment. And it is really funny and really beautiful
and somehow manages to educate without proselytizing.
That is very hard to say with aligners in.
I'm not gonna lie.
It isn't pompous or self-righteous.
It is beautiful and it teaches
whilst also making you laugh and making you feel.
And I really encourage you to go see it.
All right.
Very well. I'll go see it. All right. They were.
I'll go see it.
You also have a podcast.
I do many questions. Yeah.
Many driver.
Who's your favorite guest?
You haven't been on yet.
That's what my follow-up question was.
That was my follow-up.
I tell you what it was quite Tony Blair came on my podcast. And I gotta tell you, like,
that dude is charismatic. Yeah, like, honestly, like, no matter what you think about Iraq,
that man is charismatic and amazing and brilliant. And I felt like I learned I felt like I got,
you know, these states people, they have proper charisma.
Yeah, some of them do.
Some of them don't.
Some of them really don't.
But the ones that do, it's like, oh wow.
You get it, like rock stars.
Yeah. Like Taylor Swift.
Tony Blair's like Taylor Swift.
Yeah, I feel like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair
sniffed each other the way two golden doodles
know that they're both talking to golden doodles.
You know what I mean? They know that they're both talking to golden doodles. You know what I mean?
Like they like know that they're not just dogs, but even more the same.
You are sublime.
No, you are.
I think that's right.
No, you.
On your podcast, many questions with many driver, you ask
all of your guests the same set of questions, which you derive from a famous
series of interview questions developed by the French writer Marcel Proust.
This is America.
So the following queries were developed by my staff on their iPhones while walking my
dog.
Are you ready for Minnie and Maxie questions with Minnie Driver?
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Oh, there's me.
There you are.
Oh, God.
You're the Riddler.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's awful.
Why am I like that?
Who did that to me?
Yeah, who did that?
Who did that to Mini Driver?
Was it Zuri?
By the way, it's very current, terrifying.
Turn me to Riddler.
First question.
What happens when you die?
Oh God.
Lights out.
Okay. Do you ever feel like maybe you're wiping wrong and then maybe you've been wiping wrong this whole time,
but it's too late to ask anyone, so you just have to do what you can do and hope for the best?
No.
Yeah, me neither. What a stupid question.
What's the most embarrassing thing you've ever done on a date?
Uh, climbed out a window.
Oh.
Mm. Wow.
Yeah.
From inside to outside or outside to inside?
From the restaurant I went, I mean it's embarrassing slash awful.
He was a terrible person and that by after we'd finished sharing an avocado, it was England in the 90s, you know, like
that was an appetizer. Half an avocado with a bit of balsamic vinegar, it was
very au caron then. I digress. That was the best, that was what England was
doing in the 90s. It took a minute for us to get up to speed with the whole
cuisine thing. Yeah.
I digress.
This guy revealed himself to be not only a bigot,
but so monumentally boring, he wasn't even
interesting in his awfulness.
He was just boring.
And he was really good looking, which
is how I'd been suckered in in the first place.
So I did.
I just skipped hand through the window.
But a girl did catch me,
which is why I was thinking it was embarrassing.
And she was like, are you just going to leave him?
And I was like, yes.
Do you really have to rinse off your recycling
before you put it in the recycling bin?
Or as you call it across the pond?
In England.
Crisps.
Oh my God.
Do you have to rinse it?
Yes. And also dry it.
No.
Yes.
The recycling?
Nobody's doing that. It's all going to one hole.
By the way, well, we all know that's true, but still in England, the national psychology is that
you rinse it, you dry it, and then you put it in the recycling with the best hopes that they will,
you know, someone will sit there sorting it through and sending it off to become yoga mats.
That's what I think anyway.
If a werewolf bit a zombie,
would the zombie become a werewolf?
Would the werewolf become a zombie or both?
Both.
Both.
I would watch that movie.
By the way, we're in the right town.
I think we might have just written a film.
Zombie werewolf, werewolf zombie. Yeah. Zombie werewolf. That's it.
People get two things that happens all the time. By the way. Okay. Well just say it's
it's it's gilded age meets. What's it going to meet? A werewolf? Twilight.
It's gonna meet a werewolf, it's gonna meet a fucking werewolf.
Werewolf zombie.
You heard it here first.
I honestly, let's put it into chat GBT and see what happens.
Someone's gonna do that now, aren't they?
Go on.
That's a great idea for a film.
Yeah.
It is a good idea.
Wow.
Nobody tell anybody. That's our idea.
That's our idea. Do you have any questions for me? I do. No I do. I do
because it's one of the questions that I ask on my podcast that I very much like
and someone said today maybe my favorite answer
to ever. So the question is, what question would you most like answered? And people,
it's hard to say generally, but people give very interesting answers about lots of different
things about what happens when you die and about aliens and about some geopolitical stuff. And this person today on my podcast said,
I want to know if anyone actually
really enjoys reverse cowgirl.
And I was so, it made me laugh so hard,
but there's this dead silence.
And I said to the producers afterwards,
you better keep all that dead air in,
because it's so funny. I'm just, I was sort of so like British, like, whoa,
goodness! Whoa! Whoa! Like, my British, my British mechanics literally blew a gasket
inside my head and I couldn't speak. And then I laughed and was like, answers on a postcard, please.
Like I really, I'm hoping people will write in
someone who does enjoy it.
What's crazy is that was also my question.
Because I actually want to know if it is fun
to ride a horse backwards.
I think it would be very fun to ride a horse backwards.
But not so fun.
Actually, it did end up being that reverse cowgirl is uncomfortable
because particularly after a certain age, you'd have all sorts of chiropractic issues.
Constantly looking back over your shoulder to see if they're enjoying it.
Ow! Oh, God!
And all the bouncing.
You just put your phone in selfie mode.
The whole, I'm going to leave,
I think we just have to leave it to the kids
to also figure out that it's deeply uncomfortable
and not that fun.
And that's so important.
Mini Driver, everybody.
Uproar is out now and you can download season three of Mini Questions with Mini Driver
wherever you get your podcast. Up next, I sit down with Rabbi Sharon Brous.
Please welcome Dr. Yang to the stage.
Now, Dr. Yang. Yes. Now this is not the only
artifact you've helped uncover. Oh that's right. Oh the 90s! The 90s are ancient
history thank you John. Okay I don't know did I just do it right made choices. I'm an actor.
And you're doing amazing. You're amazing. Now, I understand you have another artifact for us.
Oh, that is right. Again, I never said I was a doctor. This week, 90s exercise Richard Simmons popped back up on Twitter
with a poignant, if awkwardly word, a tweet thread on living the moment,
which then led to this headline.
Richard Simmons apologizes for confusion caused by his message about death.
Quote, I am not dying.
Oh, dear. by his message about death, quote, I am not dying.
Oh dear. Richard Simmons, oh, oh.
Well, which is awesome, I for one was thrilled
to hear that Richard Simmons isn't dying.
You know what I wasn't thrilled about?
This clip of David Letterman interviewing Richard Simmons
on The Late Show.
Richard.
Now, I, boy, look at the sheen on those thighs.
Wow. Man, a lot. Now, um, I, uh, boy, look at the sheen on those thighs.
Wow. Man, a lot.
["Solitary Gay Guy"]
Now, oh!
["Solitary Gay Guy"]
Remember when people couldn't handle
one single solitary gay guy?
Oh, if seeing Richard Simmons shocked you
in this ad, your eyeballs must be melting down your face in 2024. I feel like we've evolved into a different species since then
and I refuse to go back. I refuse.
You refuse. And when is this from? This must be from the 1990s.
No, wait a second. I'm sorry. I got the carbon dating wrong. This clip is from 2007. The
2000s are ancient history. Thank you, John.
Please welcome to the stage the author of The Amen Effect, it's Rabbi Sharon Brous.
Hi, thank you for being here. Hi everyone. Hi, hi John. All right.
A Jewish castaway washes up
on a remote uncharted island.
And to his surprise is another Jewish castaway
who's already there.
Here, let me show you around,
says the old castaway to the new castaway.
He points at various rocks and trees and says,
this is the butcher, this is the florist,
this is the synagogue, this is the baker,
this is the tailor, this is the other synagogue, this is the Baker. This is the tailor. This is the other synagogue
This is the cobbler. Wait, wait, wait
Interrupts the new castaway surely for one man on an island. You don't need two synagogues. Yeah, but this is the one we don't go to
Rabbi
You talk in the book about a crisis of loneliness and isolation.
You also talk about the way organized religion has failed to answer that crisis that often
people are forced to choose between religion that's extreme and cruel on one hand or religion
that's routine and a bit detached on the other, sort of crazy or boring.
Can you talk about what you view as the cost of that failure
and the ways you think we should address it?
Well, wow, thank you.
I'm glad you're not asking me about
the reverse cowgirl thing from the movie.
The way.
The way.
The way.
I.
I.
I.
That's a relief.
That's a relief.
I do have an answer to the zombie and werewolf question that I have for later. That's a relief.
I do have an answer to the zombie and werewolf question for later.
So here's the thing.
Human beings have fundamental spiritual needs.
We have a need to connect to each other.
We are relational beings and we have a need to connect beyond ourselves
also, maybe to something greater than any of us. And when religious institutions
and religion generally fails to address those needs because it's either deadly,
meaning extreme, regressive, cruel, or already dead, meaning routine and boring and cowardly.
So then there's this whole world of human need
that's not being addressed by faith communities.
And so I think the challenge really is
to do the work of sacred excavation
and to figure out these traditions
that have survived for thousands of years.
It's not for nothing.
There's incredible wisdom there.
And if we can translate some of these ancient ideas
about the human condition, about what we should aspire to
in the world, then we can actually use some really powerful,
very old tools to help address some of the greatest problems
facing us as human beings today.
One thing that I've just noticed as I'm getting older
is I see that when people form couples
or families, especially families, a lot of just the having of kids creates community,
whether it's in the school.
I think a lot of Jewish parents rediscover that they want their kids to be Jewish and
sort of the bar mitzvah is, you know, it's an old joke, right?
That kids go to temple until they're bar mitzvahed
and they don't show up again until their kids
have to be bar mitzvahed.
And then I do see that like, just in my own experience,
that when there are, we have this problem of young men,
but also older men who just have no one,
they have fewer friends.
I see it in my own life, even as I get older,
that women on their own, they're just better.
And so they just, they are, they're more,
they just are better at seeking these things out,
of being emotionally connected, of knowing,
of being aware a little bit more of their own needs,
of other people's needs.
So much of what we have to do right now
is figure out how to talk to the men
that are trying to find meaning in Joe Rogan,
trying to find meaning in right-wing politics,
trying to find meaning in Jordan Peterson.
How do you think about reaching the kind of people
that don't realize that what they're missing,
what they could benefit from is a kind of community
that isn't speaking to their worst impulses.
It's so interesting, because I think about
that need for belonging, and a lot of people are finding it
in these dark corners of the internet.
They're finding other people who can share their sense
of loneliness and detachment and their sense of loneliness and detachment
and their sense of rejection from the world.
And so what we have to do is create environments
where people feel that they can belong
and have a different kind of dream of, you know,
what that shared purpose could look like,
but not in a place that will cause harm to other people
and not in a fantasy that will cause harm to other people.
So I was just with this professor, David Williams from Harvard recently, and he said that the
studies actually show, he's a data guy, and he said the studies actually show that people
who go to church or synagogue or mosque once a week, they will live seven and a half years
longer.
And for actually for black Americans who go once a week,
they will live 13 years longer if they engage
in this kind of rhythmic encounter with community.
And so the idea is to actually build
and then to engage ourselves in these kind of spaces
that allow us to find meaning, to find purpose,
and to feel a sense of belonging
so that we don't seek it out elsewhere.
So I wanted to talk to you about Israel.
You've been, for a long time,
spoken out against Israel's occupation of Gaza
and the West Bank.
You've talked about how we are called upon
to tell the truth, to not look away,
especially for those of us who are raised
to believe in the project of Israel.
Right now, half the population of Gaza is on the brink of starvation.
It is on top of tens of thousands of people who have died as a result of the war that
Hamas launched on October 7th, but that Israel has conducted with a disregard for Palestinian
life, including children, that is indefensible even if you believe Israel has a right to
defend itself.
What does it mean to you right now not to look away?
So it means we have to be big-hearted enough that we can actually hold multiple things at once.
One is that Israel was attacked in horrific atrocities, the worst since the Holocaust on
October 7th, and that's just true and that's a fact. And some of the most painful parts of the last five months
for many people is witnessing the denial
and the justification and even the celebration
of those atrocities by people who
say that they care about human rights and human dignity.
It's just not acceptable.
And at the same time, to hold the reality
that if you believe that every single person is created
in God's own image, which I do, then the death of any single person is a
travesty. And what we're witnessing now is just an extraordinary amount of human
suffering. And when I as a mother and as a Jew and as a human being read stories
about Palestinian mothers feeding their children animal feed and grass to try to
keep them alive, I'm absolutely shattered by it and those two truths the truth that my family was attacked in these brutal
Atrocious acts and that Palestinians are suffering in a totally horrific way and that that needs to end don't actually
Contradict each other. It's precisely because of my own pain and my own sorrow
That my heart and my eyes are open
and able to see the sorrow of Palestinian people as well.
Ultimately, John, I mean, the only future
is a just and shared future
for Israelis and Palestinians together.
I think the most important thing
that people who care about justice can do
is amplify and platform and resource
the Israelis and Palestinians who are working
for that just and shared future right now and help them instead of harming them by creating
these kind of false binaries where you win, you lose, you're the victim, you're the villain
and instead say this is too many people have died, there's too much suffering here, we
have to figure out a better way. Can you talk about what it was like when you were confronted by an ultra-orthodox
settler, a leader of the settler movement?
What led to that moment?
And what happened after?
Yeah, so the whole premise of the book
is rooted in this one paradigm.
Can I just share this with you?
Please.
So the paradigm that is kind of the central metaphor for the book is rooted in this one paradigm. Can I just share this with you? So the paradigm that is kind of the central metaphor
for the book is this ancient pilgrimage ritual
from the time of the Temple Mount.
So 2,000 years old when hundreds of thousands of Jews
would make their way up to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem
and they would enter through this beautiful arched entryway
and turn to the right and circle around the perimeter
of the courtyard and then exit.
Like the Hatch, they have just this mass movement of people,
except for someone who was brokenhearted,
who would turn to the left,
and they would have this sacred encounter
where the brokenhearted person would be met
with someone who would see them in their humanity
and in their brokenness and ask them,
what happened to you?
And that person would say, I am bereft,
I am bereaved, I am ill,
I'm worried about my kid, I'm lonely.
And they would receive a blessing
from the person or the people going in this direction.
So it's this totally counter-instinctual ritual
where what we want to do is pull away,
but what we do instead is incline toward each other.
And at the end of the book, I share
that actually there are two people who turn to the left,
not just the brokenhearted, but also the ostracized.
And when the ostracized go to the left, they too, these are people who have caused great harm to the community,
and they too are received with curiosity and with compassion, even though they've caused great harm.
So some years ago, I was invited by the president
of the state of Israel to come be part
of a very small group of people, 36 Jews from Israel
and around the world, to try to figure out
what, if anything, we had in common.
And we spent three or four days together
trying to really work through this question.
It was fascinating, secular, religious,
right-wing, left-wing.
And we found very little that we agreed upon.
At the end, he asked me to stand up and speak,
representing my perspective as an American Jew.
And I shared that I was deeply concerned
about a lot of the things that I saw unfolding in Israel,
including a new violent religious extremism
in the Jewish population that I was deeply concerned
was gonna push us off the edge of the abyss.
And afterwards, I was confronted by one of the leaders
of the settler movement, ultra-orthodox,
living in the West Bank in illegal settlement,
and he just cornered me and started shouting at me
that I was lying, this was propaganda,
none of this was true, that I was harming the Jewish people
by speaking this way, et cetera.
And then he paused for a moment and he said,
you really hurt me with what you said
about violent religious extremism.
And I noticed that his whole demeanor shifted
when he said that I hurt him.
And mine did too.
And so I just turned to him and said,
do you wanna get lunch? him and said, do you want to get lunch?
And and he said, yeah.
And so we literally sat down for lunch together for almost three hours
in the lobby of the hotel to meet him and his wife.
And and we talked and we disagreed about absolutely everything.
It was really troubling.
And so, you know, as I say, like everything but the sweet cougel,
you know, that was the only that was the only thing we agreed upon.
And I got up and like took, I literally took contemporaneous notes on the whole thing as soon as the meeting was over
because I wanted to remember every word that we had said. And I was deeply troubled by it. I mean, I left troubled.
So a couple years pass and there's this event that happens once a year on the saddest day of the year in Jerusalem where people go to the Western Wall and there was an egalitarian
prayer service there and a bunch of violent religious extremists were bussed in from the
West Bank in order to throw feces and chairs at them as is their custom.
And this guy, it's a true story, I'm sorry to say I've been there, and this guy, this rabbi, basically stands up and he's like,
stop, what are you doing? He said, if any Jew comes here to pray,
the only thing you hand them is a prayer book. You know, like you don't,
you don't throw feasts, like he said, what's wrong with you? And he said, there is a
sickness of violent religious extremism and we have to do something to stop it.
And so anyway, the only reason I know this whole story
is because somebody basically asks his advisors,
like, what happened?
He's the guy in charge.
And then he switched teams.
And the guy says, well, he had lunch
with Rabbi Sharon Brous once a couple years ago.
And so, you know, I don't know.
I don't know how much my lunch with him
actually impacted him.
But it strikes me the power of, like,
when you see someone that's not coming toward you,
but coming at you, and all your defenses are up,
and all you want to do is pull away,
what happens if instead you stay at the table
and you just have this uncomfortable conversation in
which you try to see each other's humanity?
You try to see if there's any overlap.
Like, the only, I mean, I literally realized
he cared a lot about his kids,
and I care a lot about my kids.
Like, so I was holding onto that for some time.
So what if we force ourselves
to stay curious about each other
instead of branding someone as a traitor
or branding someone as, you know, as a terrorist?
Like, what if we actually tried to see the humanity in each other?
What do we lose and what could we potentially gain?
And most of the time, probably, you know,
probably there isn't a happy ending like there is in my story.
But sometimes every now and then a seed is
planted that grows into something absolutely beautiful and transformative.
So
I when you told that story, I think that it's a beautiful story.
But I also was thinking, well, you must have told that story in the years before you had
found out that he changed his mind, right?
You never told it before.
Well, I guess the reason I say that is that his changing his mind makes the conversation
you had even more valuable.
But what value would it have had? Right?
Like the reason his wife is there, right, is because he wouldn't sit down with a woman.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Because of the misogyny of his views about women.
I'm sure he wouldn't want to be seen having lunch alone with a woman, yeah.
Right. Because you couldn't be just an interlocutor.
You had to also... That your woman-ness made it someone you can't...
Yeah, that's...
You can't sit across from, right? I guess what I'm getting at is at some...
But forget just feeling safe.
When is it... When is the right time to say, you know what, we're not speaking anymore.
You're someone I need to fight.
Well, this is why I think that model from the ancient ritual is so powerful
because the person, the ostracized person, is one step short of excommunicated.
Meaning the excommunicated are not welcome into that ritual. But anyone
who's short, just short, meaning someone who's gonna blow this the place up is
not welcome into the place because it would render it unsafe. And I think we
have to do the work of figuring out the difference between being unsafe and being uncomfortable.
And we should not put ourselves in environments where we're unsafe. But we have to put ourselves
in environments and conversations where we're uncomfortable. It doesn't feel good to do
that. But the only way that we change as people is when we encounter other human beings whose
ideas are different from ours
and we end up growing from those encounters.
So I think what you're asking is,
what's the value of that conversation
if it doesn't have the Hollywood ending
where there's like some Google alert
that this guy changes?
So the value of it is, I remain fully human
because I am still willing to sit with this guy even though
we totally disagree with each other, even though I think that his views are actually
endangering the state of Israel and the Jewish people and I know he feels that way about
me and even still I'm willing to see him as a human being who cares about his kids and
likes sweet cougar.
Right.
That is worth it for me because otherwise I become a caricature of myself when I make
him a caricature of himself and he is actually a human being. Well, as someone who's become a caricature of myself when I make him a caricature of himself and he is actually a human being.
Well, as someone who's become a character of himself, I know I'm like, actually, I'm
not, I'm not pushing back on it.
I'm not disagreeing with that, but I'm also what I saw you give a talk about this and
what I, my honest, what I was thinking when I was watching you speak is, you know, surgeons
see opportunities, perform surgery, rabb surgeons see opportunities to perform surgery.
Rabbis see opportunities to talk about the Talmud and find understanding.
That is of a tremendous value.
But part of what made the fact that you were sitting down with that rabbi, that ultra orthodox
pro settler rabbi interesting is because all around it are all the people fighting, right?
But the people fighting are creating like those people all the people fighting, right? But the people fighting are
creating, like those people need to be defeated, right? Like my view, right, would be that those
settlers need to be removed. And actually more important to me than understanding is the actual
tangible outcomes in the world, right? And some people you'll never persuade and they're not even
outcomes in the world, right? And some people you'll never persuade and they're not even
arguing with you in good faith, right? Like, at what point is it of more value to say, you know what, I'm sick of being curious and I may be a slightly harder version of myself,
but that being a harder version of myself is what it's going to take to get me to the other side
of a fight we have to win. So this is not a panacea. Seeing another person's humanity does not solve problems.
It does not take the place of just policy.
It doesn't mean that we accept the wrongs
that another person is committing in the world
or what they stand for or what they believe.
It doesn't take the place of it.
It actually is bringing humanity into the fight.
And so I think it's absolutely essential
that we do both actually.
I think we have to continue to fight
to see each other's humanity
all while we're fighting the just fight,
while we're fighting for a change in policy,
for a change in administration,
for all the things that we care about in our society,
we have to continue to fight for.
But when we dehumanize the people
who are on the other side of that battle,
we're not winning.
We're becoming a lot like they are.
And so I feel this is really essential for us.
I'm not suggesting also that this work is for everyone.
Not for everyone all the time, right?
So you do what you do.
I just wanna fight.
Right?
By the way, I'm fighting too.
I mean, we're just fighting in different ways.
And there are people who are,
really to insist that you can still see the humanity of another person,
even when what they who they vote for and what they stand for and how they live is actually like actually hurts you.
That's a spiritual that is spiritual work. That is very hard work to do.
And I think ultimately that is that's really essential for the kind of
social change that we know needs to happen. I called my dear friend Sarah
who you know before I came here and she said oh you should make sure you tell
Rabbi Brous that Sarah thinks I desperately need the counsel of a rabbi. I think that's clear to all of us now, John. Do you have a favorite joke? Jewish humor joke? I have one to close this out if you want.
Yeah, please.
Two old Jews sitting at a counter. One old Jew says to the other Jew, Mordy, are you getting any on the side? And Mordy replies, they moved it.
Hey, what happens when you die?
I'm asking everybody.
Minnie Driver was honestly pretty useless on the question,
but you're a rabbi.
I do believe that the soul survives, John,
I'll tell you that.
That's good.
Yeah.
I don't think that it's over when it's over.
I think that love is stronger than death
and I believe that the soul persists.
Well, that's a good note to leave it on.
I had no applause for that at all.
No, they're ready for it
all to be over. Rabbi Sharon Brous, thank you so much. The book is The Amen Effect.
Check it out. It's a really good read. We come back. We go down a wiki hole with Darcy
Carden. Don't go anywhere. This is Love It or Leave It, and there's more on the way.
And we're back! Now Dr. Jenny Yang, I understand that you have one more piece
of investigatory archaeology, one more artifact for us. It reads, shut up, John. I said, shut up to you.
Shut up, John.
This week investigation discovery
and quiet on set, the dark side of kids TV,
a four part documentary about former producer,
Dan Schneider and others allegedly creating
an inappropriate and even harmful environment
for the child actors on a set of Nickelodeon shows.
Now personally, I loved watching the documentary.
Unfortunately, I didn't love the actual video of the character Kat from the Dan Schneider
Nickelodeon show Sam and Kat, which I unearthed as part of my research.
Is it possible for a teenage girl to drink water upside down?
Mmm, I'm thirsty!
No more, no more, no more.
Are you fucking kidding me?
And I know what you're thinking John, wow the 90s were pretty bad but thank god they
are so long ago.
I've got some bad news, that actresses Ariana Grande and this clip is from
2014 so long ago that apparently predates comedy because what is the joke in this John?
I don't know. I don't know. I cannot believe that that was a Nickelodeon show in
2014 holy shit
What was going on?
Jesus Christ!
All the years prior to like 2017 are ancient history, John.
And probably all the years since then, thank you for having me.
Thank you! Thank you!
It's archaeologist Dr. Jenny Yang.
Thank you.
She's got a pit helmet on.
That's how you know it's legit.
You know her, you love her, you're mad she's not currently starring in a network sitcom, you can build your entire identity around. It's Darcy Carden!
Hi. Is this on? Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. How y'all doing?
How you doing? I'm doing great. Great. What is the most embarrassing thing you've looked up online?
What is the most embarrassing thing you've looked up online?
In the world? Yeah.
Probably like Darcy Carden feet?
Just got to see what's out there. I want to know what you know. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, that's right. You got to do your own research. You got to do your own oppo. Knowledge is power.
And now we've always said that.
You played a search engine basically on The Good Place.
Yeah, totally.
Oh, it almost, yeah.
That's right.
Have you noticed that Google doesn't work anymore?
It just straight up doesn't work anymore.
Because is it all ads or something?
It's all ads.
It's all sponsored.
You search for gym shorts.
You don't know what you're going to get.
You're not getting gym shorts, hon.
You're getting, but it's like shopping boxes
and it's not the best.
It's not the best and it feels very capitalism.
It feels very capitalism, say that.
Sorry, I'm trying here.
But it does feel like the first five things
are like ad sponsored and you gotta scroll past that.
You gotta scroll past it.
Even if it's the same website, you gotta scroll past it.
You gotta add the word Reddit. Is that right? You it's the same website, you gotta scroll past it.
You gotta add the word Reddit.
Is that right?
You just add the word Reddit and then all of a sudden
then you're in business.
You put whatever you wanna know, then Reddit.
That's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ding.
You just type Darcy Carden alive, Reddit.
Because that'll take you to Reddit?
Yeah, and then there'll be a discussion.
Reddit, I can't believe it's still confusing to me,
but it's so confusing to me.
I do not feel like it's a very user-friendly interface.
Yeah.
Is it?
No.
I need to go to Genius Bar for Reddit.
Yeah.
Or something.
For sure.
Shit.
I'm gonna read you a list of terms.
You let me know if you would encourage
our listeners to go ahead and search that bad war if you would advise them to
not look it up. Okay. Bob Fish. Search it. It's funny. It's such a cartoon. It's such
an it's such a like his voice is like her her. Yes yes yes. He's either like, oh, he's either like, wait, how'd you do that? Oh, brother.
Or maybe he's like, he's like, he's on Downton Abbey actually. Yeah. Yeah. He's on Downton
Abbey. He's on that. And he's in the new Downton Abbey third movie. The third movie, they're
like, Hey, should we go see dog day afternoon? That's what happens in the third Doughton Abbey movie.
You know?
Attica!
My Wootie said attica.
Attica.
Attica.
Attica.
Attica.
Sorry Minnie, sorry.
What a charming woman.
Jesus Christ.
Charming, Charisma of the Yang.
Oh my God, that laugh. Charisma of the yang. Oh my god that laugh. Charisma of the...
I can't, I can barely look at her. When she comes out here, I gotta close my eyes.
She's got it man. What about tryptophobia? Trypophobia? Okay for me I would say don't
google it if you have tryptophobia. My best friend Jen Statsky has it bad so I'm always like
don't look at this.
Yeah, this is pretty rough.
This is when like you have a fear of little holes.
Little holes.
Now, I think it's beautiful.
It's kind of like honeycombs can do that.
I don't like that.
But here's what, okay, actually I'm going to take it back.
Do not Google it because what happens when you Google tryptophobia is it isn't this beautiful
like plant.
It's like people's heels of their feet and the palms of their hands that are like
riddled with disease I've done it do you know I'm saying can you picture that
it's like skin holes and it's really bad no thank you just learn no thank you
definition and know what it is but don't look at the pictures then there's this
famous waterfall in the Antarctic which has a higher which has high iron oxide making it look like the Antarctica has its period Google it Google it's
great I think it's great yes say look at me in the eye it's great it's great it's
great to look at a period it's great to look at a period there's no reason not
there's no reason to not look at it every day every day my life until I die
until the day I fucking die. Thank you. Darcy.
Yeah.
What?
It's time to play one of our favorite Love It or Leave It games.
It's called Was I In This?
You and I will ask the audience, was Darcy in this show or film?
You, the audience, will volunteer to answer the question,
do we have any Darcy heads in the crowd?
Gay, mommy.
My mom's here.
Kendra's head.
Your mom's here?
No, but just one person said woo.
And my mom loves me.
Oh, that's nice.
Kendra's out there.
Can we bring up the lights, please?
Thank you.
Would anybody like to play Was I in This?
Raise your hand, you cowardly freaks.
I see one.
I see one hand.
Hey.
Yay, welcome.
Oh, that was nicer than what I did.
Oh yeah, you cowardly freaks.
Hi, what's your name?
Rose.
Hi Rose.
Great name.
Hi.
Beautiful name.
Beautiful name, as beautiful as a daffodil.
Spoon.
Rose, are you ready to play Was I In This with Darcy?
Definitely.
Okay, cool.
Hi, Rose.
Hi.
Darcy, kick us off.
Oh, I played, so is this like true or false basically?
Yeah.
Okay.
I played Janet on NBC's The Good Place.
True.
Darcy played the neighbor in A24's Dicks.
Yeah, let the ding happen or not.
You're right.
You're right.
I just, well, let's maybe the dings could happen
like sort of in a timely fashion.
That's on me.
That's on me.
There was a lifetime before I started speaking.
He jumped again.
OK.
Darcy played the neighbor in H24's Dix the musical.
False.
No, it's true.
Check it out.
Anyone seen Dix the musical?
I highly recommend it.
Highly recommend it.
It's on Max right now.
It's on Max.
It used to be called HBO,
but they were like, nah, too good of a brand.
They're like, get that off of there, yuck.
It's associated with premium and amazing shit.
Get it off of the fucking thing.
This is true.
Max used to be called HBO,
and Dix used to be called fucking identical twins.
They had to change the name.
Oh, they changed the name.
That changed the name. Yeah, because changed the name. That changed the name.
Yeah, because they afford, I think.
Yeah, and the implications.
Well, you gotta watch the movie to see if that's true or not.
I once performed a wedding for two gay guys.
And they were both Eagle Scouts.
And so I said, and they were very,
they had a lot in common.
No, no, they weren't, they weren't,
well, I think it's a code of like,
you're always an eagle scout.
Right, you are an eagle scout.
And I said, they have so much in common,
they're like brothers with benefits.
And I shouldn't have done it.
They hated that.
They absolutely hated that.
It was a miss, it was a miss.
They absolutely hated it.
Okay, my turn?
Yeah. Okay. my turn? Yeah.
Okay.
I appeared as Patricia in Why Did I Get Married 2.
I didn't see that, false.
False is correct.
That was the singer, dancer, and superstar Janet Jackson.
Darcey portrayed Natalie on HBO's Barry.
True. True.
Ding.
Yes, that's right.
Sorry.
I played Ms. Witt in Bad Girls from Valley High.
Statistically, I'm just gonna go false.
Nice, false.
That was Psycho star Janet Leigh.
Oh.
You see where this is going?
Oh.
Darcy appeared as Greta Gill in a league of their own.
True.
That is true. That is true.
Gone too soon.
Gone too soon.
Gone too soon.
Gone too soon.
Quiet, quiet. They're screaming. They're editing out the screaming.
When you listen to this back, just know the crowd.
The chance of going too soon deafening.
Quiet, quiet.
Too loud.
My ears.
Okay.
My turn?
Yes.
Okay.
I played skunk in the gutter.
I'm going to go false.
True.
Now this is a trick question because it's not out yet, but it did just play.
I'm going to go false.
I'm going to go false.
I'm going to go false.
I'm going to go false.
I'm going to go false.
I'm going to go false. I'm going to go false. I'm going to go false. I'm going to go falseutter. I'm gonna go false.
True.
Now this is a trick question because it's not out yet,
but it did just premiere at South by Southwest
to rave reviews.
You played Skunk in The Gutter.
I played a character named Skunk
in a movie called The Gutter.
Sounds fun.
Yeah, it is fun.
Okay, your turn.
No, me, oh God, I have to say this one.
I played Linda in the short film,
I Know You Think I Farted.
False.
True.
But hey, what do you think it's about?
It's a short film.
Sounds funny.
They go right down to it.
It was funny.
It sounds funny.
Written by Emily Straughan, just so you know.
For Funny or Die, remember that?
Remember that place?
Did you fart or did someone else fart?
You know, I didn't fart, and also,
I have to actually say something, guys.
You know how, wait, let's just make sure
I'm not giving away, whatever, I don't care.
You know how I play Bad Janet on The Good Place?
And Bad Janet's whole thing is farting?
I don't like that.
I'm actually not a huge fart joke fan.
And I'm also going to tell you one more thing.
The first time bad Janet farts, I made the sound with my mouth,
kind of like a pfft, like she's just being like sassy.
But then they put a fart sound over it,
and I do stick my butt out so it does look like I fart,
and the audiences seemed to like it,
so they just kept putting farts in.
So then I became the actress that farts all the time.
Wow, that's sort of like how you need like a nudity writer.
You need a writer that says,
you cannot make it look like I farted
without my express consent.
Yes, that's what I was bickering about.
It is 2024.
That's what the strike was all about. People don't realize that, but that's one of the many things the strike was about.
Yeah. They can't just make you fart. No, Mike. Sure.
Think about then, by the way, then they can go back and make other people fart.
That, say that. Yeah. And now they're farting. Now all kinds of people are farting.
Everybody's farting. I am, I am Spartacus. Fart, fart, fart.
Attica. Fart, fart, fart. Attica, fart fart fart.
Hey, this whole town is corrupt.
I'm that other movie.
Yeah.
Scarface, nope, the other one.
Serpico, fart.
Serpico, fart.
Terrible.
They're gonna ruin cinema.
They.
I got to, they.
They are.
They are gonna ruin cinema with these farts.
Although I have to tell you,
Serpico could use some jokes, that thing is fucking heavy.
And honestly, we can say it now, boring, okay.
I didn't say it.
All right, your turn.
Oh, Darcy appeared as Justice
in the John Singleton film Poetic Justice.
Sure.
No!
Think about it for a second!
Just think about it for one fucking second.
Rose, Rose, Got this. Rose.
Come on Rose. Come on. She didn't exactly rose to the occasion. I'm sorry Rose.
Okay that's false.
That was false. It was Janet Jackson again.
Yeah. And also check that movie out. It's great. Tupac.
Getting a lot of good.
What?
Getting a lot of good ideas for you to watch.
You are. You are. Rose, I appeared in the Glenn Close,
okay, this word's hard for me, biopic, biopic.
Biopic.
Biopic.
Yeah.
It's a biopic.
Biographical picture.
Right, but don't people say biopic?
Yeah, but people say a lot of stuff these days.
Yeah, they do.
They do.
I appeared in the Glenn Close biopic Albert Knobbs.
I think no, because he didn't know how to say biopic.
Oh. Oh, wow. Roasted.
Rose fighting back from downtown.
Look at Rose.
Rose doesn't take any shit.
I got roasted.
Rose has some thorns.
Yours was good.
No, yours was really good.
But they didn't hear mine.
Oh, OK.
Do it again.
Rose has some thorns.
Gone too soon.
Gone too soon.
Shut up, Chris. All too soon. Gone too soon.
Shut up Chris.
Your turn.
Oh, Darcy voice the Turkish ambassador
in History of the World part 2.
True. That is true.
I'm Turkish.
Yeah I am.
He went aww.
I'm a little bit Turkish
and a little bit Greek.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Rare.
Ah.
Rare gem.
Acropolis.
Istanbul.
Love that place.
Two places.
I played Gemma on Broad City.
Yes, this is one I've been waiting for.
Oh, well great.
Great, great, great.
Yes, check out Broad City on,
I don't know where you can find it these days.
Hulu.
Okay, great, Peacock, Hulu, great.
Those are different.
Yeah.
Just two confident things said out loud
by people that do not know.
That's what's going on, that's the internet.
Darcy played Nell McAdoo in Cricket's very own
Edith podcast about First Lady Edith Wilson.
True.
That is true.
Travis Howick.
Travis Howick. Travis Howick.
Ba ba ba.
I played the character Denise
in Nutty Professor 2, The Clumps.
Come on, you got this.
Rose.
False.
False, false, rose.
Once again, that was Janet Jackson.
It was Janet Jackson.
Miss Janet if you're nasty, obviously.
Miss Janet if you're nasty.
Oh wait, too soon. Oh, wait.
Too soon.
OK.
Wait, that's actually your line, so I will do this.
Everybody check out Wiki Hole with Darcy Carden.
Wherever you get your podcasts.
They go down to Wiki Hole.
Yeah, you're going to come on my show.
I am?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
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And now for a segment we're calling Here Comes the Sun.
Nice.
That's the most we're allowed to play of it.
Please welcome Minnie and Jenny back to the stage.
Please welcome Minnie and Jenny back to the stage. Yay!
Sorry, sorry.
Hello, ladies.
Hi!
This is my real voice.
I know, I was very convinced.
Jenny, no longer a doctor.
It was actually really cute to watch you do the British accent backstage, because Minnie
would be like, yes.
Aww!
Yes!
How'd you do?
Minnie Driver? She did great. You're the, yes. Oh, yes. How'd you do? Minnie driver. Great. Yeah.
You're the most supportive.
You did great.
There was some coaching beforehand.
I got it.
I got it.
Call it out.
It was.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Love.
Man.
Do you think that it is harder for British people to do an American accent or for
Americans to do a British accent?
Oh, Americans to do a British accent.
Right.
And why, why it was just... I will tell you.
Well, that's what I was told at school anyway, at drama school.
You, because it's much, it's easier to relax, because you have a very, like, you have a very kind of tight tongue.
Hard R.
Hard R.
Yeah.
It's, it's just harder to do in England. It's harder to sound like you've
got a stick up your ass.
I thought it was someone told me once that when you want to do an American accent, you
make your mouth real wide. But when you want to do a British accent, you kind of make it
to key home. It's a lot more key. Can I offer another theory?
Yeah.
My theory is that because of the popularity and of Hollywood cultural supremacy, there's
more of an exposure to American accents worldwide.
No?
Yeah.
And so therefore, you know, it's more of a wallpaper of your life.
And so maybe it's easier.
Although for a long time, the map was pink.
What?
What does that mean?
It means that the British Empire as was, was like literally everywhere.
Like there were no other, there were no other countries.
That's how they got all those cool vases.
You're right. That's true.
It's true. That's true.
Yeah. And if you go, the Ashmolean has that one last dodo.
Yikes. And you know go, the, the, the Ashmolean has that one last dodo. Yeah. You know, that, that was a, that was a miss.
Don't even talk about the British museum and the, well, oh dear, does somebody just
go, ugh, all the shit we haven't returned.
Mini driver, why won't you personally give this stuff back?
Mini driver, give it back.
Literally. Also, thanks for having a go at me for, for not knowing what happens
when we die.
Like you know.
Minnie was in the back like, I can't believe I said lights out.
I can't believe I said lights out. I don't think that. Listen, I think it depends what
you did in this life. And after treating me so cruelly, I know what's happening to you.
Lights out.
It's going to be lights out for him. Lights out for him.
Lights out. World food. Lights out. It's gonna be lights out for him. Lights out for him. Lights out.
World food.
Lights out, can't wait.
All right.
Lights.
You're so tired.
I'm sorry, I'm frankly, I'm exhausted.
I'm sick of looking at my phone.
Do you think there are phones in heaven?
No. Good.
Oh God, no.
All right, well that's a relief.
What, is there a wheel for this?
I can't remember.
Yeah, hell yeah.
How cute. Aww.
What is this for again?
It's what you would do with an extra hour every night.
God, that is such a good picture of you.
Oh, you look so handsome.
Wow, that is a good picture of me.
It's a strong jaw. It's a good teeth.
Really good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you want?
Okay, so what do you yeah. What do you want?
Okay, so what do you do?
What do you say?
We turn the tables on you.
What would you do with this extra hour?
This extra hour of daylight?
Okay.
You know what I would like to do?
I would like to be outside for one hour a day.
Oh, come on.
You know what I mean?
Because here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I walk the dog in the morning and then I walk the dog at night.
That's not enough.
I mean that's good.
Is that the only time you go outside?
That's dreadful.
Sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes.
Really?
Well, I don't really like putting on sunscreen so then I don't want to go out really between 10 and 2.
You've got a hat right there.
Where could you be a hat?
Could you be a, there you go.
You have great windows in your house.
Yeah.
Getting some D, vitamin.
Still.
I said either one.
Hey, getting some D, vitamin.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Either one.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I could see.
Nice almost catch.
D, I could see you in a gorgeous sun hat.
Oh, yes.
I really could.
You know when I'll know that my life is really
firing in all cylinders?
When I finally no longer have an over 200 day streak
on the New York Times crossword.
Oh, yeah.
Because the day I forget to do it is the day I'm happy.
Oh my God.
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
Totally.
Because I have not missed that in 250 days.
Right, right, right.
And here's the thing, Monday through Wednesday,
that's five to 10 minutes.
Thursday through Sunday, that's 30 to 45 to an hour
of my life every day for 250 days in a row.
Have you been depressed?
Really?
Yeah, it's true.
I didn't think I was.
Let's spin it again.
Oh dear.
It's landed on Jenny.
What are you going to do with an extra hour a day?
Okay.
I did think about this on my drive here and it's a little like big picture small picture.
Okay.
So I don't know about you and your pandemic experience.
I was very sad sack.
Do you know what I mean?
Oh no, I was one of the people that loved it.
And you know, it was very internal.
I got off social media.
The world is angsty, right?
And then only I feel like this past year,
especially with Daylight Savings with this extra hour,
I decided the fire within is burning and it is coming out.
I am, I now have enemies.
Do you know what I mean?
I used to not have enemies.
Like now I have enemies.
I want to thrive in order to passive aggressively show them. Do
you know what I'm saying? Like this is what I decided. Like I flipped a frame of mind and I
think I want that hour to do that. You know what I mean? To just thrive. An hour of vengeance.
An hour of vengeance. Yes. Yes. Cause I don't, I'm not naturally like this. I don't think like this,
but there's something in me that just turned after the pandemic
that was just like, I will now designate enemies
and I will have that secretly drive me
in order to succeed and thrive and be happy.
Holy shit, I don't want to be your enemy.
I know.
I think you need to talk to the Rabbi.
Oh, maybe.
Maybe I need to go through that practice of being like,
what's wrong with you?
So many things.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm being honest.
I think that was good.
I think that's a really good thing to do.
I'm being vulnerable.
Make a list.
Check it twice.
It's vengeance in a passive aggressive way.
Do you know what I mean?
It's more like, OK, if they've rejected me,
I'm going to thrive out of spite.
OK, that's good. And then that's just going to- It's not like you're going to do something to them. No, no, no, okay, if they've rejected me, I'm going to like thrive out of spite. Okay, that's good.
It's not like you're going to, you're not going to like do something to them.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no drink yourself to kill someone else? That's right, and expect the other person to die.
I thought that was jealousy.
I don't know!
Anyway, I'm trying to think of it in a positive way.
I'm just giving enough oomph to just motivate me to be creative and do things.
I love that.
Whatever puts wind in your sails.
Let's spin it again.
Thank you.
Min.
Yes.
It is literally a min.
Min.
Min. Min. Min. Min. Min. Thank you.
Min.
Yes. It has landed on Minnie.
You'll sort of groan and be annoyed, but like I drink an extra cup of coffee and I'd go surfing.
Wow, that's such a good answer.
Really, are you clapping?
God, everybody's thrilled by that.
But what, getting vengeful, like vengeful?
For an hour?
Doesn't get applause?
Nobody claps.
You know what that did?
You know what that did?
What?
You, in one sentence, drink a cup of coffee
and go surfing, painted a beautiful life.
I know.
It's a painting.
Everybody gasped.
It took our breath away.
And I clapped.
Yes, that was amazing.
I drink an extra cup of...
Do you surf?
Yes.
Yes.
Wow.
I mean, not well.
Like you can't possibly surf well unless you started when you were tiny.
But I do.
I surf a lot.
Really?
Yeah.
Have you not figured out that Mini Driver is one of the coolest chicks in the world?
Yeah, no, that's evident.
So have you ever done the thing where there's a wave above you?
You know, like when they're like going down what looks like they're like inside of a wave,
like a tunnel of wave?
When you're in a tube.
No, I've never been in a tube.
Oh, that's called a tube?
Yes.
Tube.
Tube.
We call it the subway.
Jenny had it first. Jenny had it first. Jenny had it first.
Jenny had it first but you were waiting for, you were giving it a breath.
I know.
It's tough when there's funny people on stage.
Oh my god.
Oh my god it's no accident.
No, no me first.
I said it.
No, no me first.
Are you laughing at mine?
You're the host.
You have all the power.
It's fine. Oh that's so good. That's so good. That's so good. You ever hang 10?
Oh, have you? Uh, uh, uh, no, no, no, no, no, because that's, that's both feet on the end.
No, absolutely not. I'm literally just figuring out cross-stepping. It's really hard.
How long have you been surfing? Like I should be way better than I am, like 20 years.
And have you ever seen a big scary shark or whale or dolphin?
I have, yeah, in Fiji.
Not this Christmas, but the Christmas before.
It was a big tiger shark in the face of the wave.
Oh my God!
The cool thing about seeing a shark, right, is first of all, we
were in his backyard, but second of all, if you're seeing him, like he's not biting you.
Right, right, right. So that's good. If you're feeling him, that's how I spot it anyway.
I was like, yeah, if I'm seeing him in the face of the wave, the dude's cruising. He's
not biting me. So be grateful. But I was very cool. I was, yeah, I'm always curious about in the moment.
I always feel like if I was out in the ocean and I saw a shark, I would have a heart attack.
I think I'd have a heart attack.
We had to get back to the boat so there was no...
I did do something.
I made up a technology.
I was with my two girlfriends and I was like, I wonder if we make ourselves look big like
you're supposed to do when you like see a bear.
So we all got together and our friend, our friend was in the middle and then me and my
friend Cameron were the only ones who were going to lose an arm on each side.
So we tried to be, yeah, anyway.
Did you invent something or did you just do what zebras do?
Is that what they do?
Is that what they do?
Well, they just, is it, is it, you know,
that's why they got the stripes.
When do zebras see sharks?
Well, I'm just saying it's like, is it one zebra?
It's like when they're running together,
it's like, where's one zebra end and another zebra begin?
Is it one giant zebra?
Oh, I see.
You notice what I'm saying?
Honestly, I believe that's nature fact from you
cause you're wearing that hat.
It's very convincing.
Glad a shark didn't eat you.
What about jellyfish?
You ever get stung by a jellyfish while surfing?
No. Oh, that's great. I have get stung by a jellyfish while surfing? No.
Oh, that's great.
I have been stung by one, but not surfing.
We've got a wetsuit on as well, so it's hard.
Was it hard to say zebra and not zebra?
Did I just say zebra?
You said zebra.
I have lived in America for 27 years.
Oh no.
I know.
It's astonishing I still sound like this.
I give a very short shrift.
Do you know what that means?
Okay, well, you'll get it.
I give a very short shrift to people who've lived here for a short amount of time who are English, who sound American.
What does Madonna sound like to you?
Haven't heard her talk in a long time.
It's kind of gone.
It's not...
Is it back? Is it back? It's settled down?
It's back to Detroit or whatever. Yeah. But there are certain people that I... And
I'm not here to throw names around, but it really does make me annoyed. It gives you
a very short shrift. Yes. I give a very short shrift to people. So it's British people who
sound more American very quickly. Yeah. People who've been here for like, you know, three
years and they're like, how are you? It's so great to see you oh my god I don't miss
London at all. First of all, first of all, name names. The performance we just got.
Incredible. One thing when I've noticed that when I've had friends that have
lived in the UK,
they may not pick up the accent, but they pick up the cadence specifically on questions.
And all of a sudden you'll have a friend who'll say, should we go to the store?
And they're like, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Should we go to the store?
Or not?
Should we go to the store?
Should we go to the store?
What are we doing here?
Shops.
Yeah.
Should we go to the store?
I like it.
Should we go to the shops?
I like it.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, that's good.
Let's spin it again. Who could it be, I wonder? This I like it. I like it. That's, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Let's spin it again.
Who could it be?
I wonder.
This is so random.
Oh dear.
Is it the poodle?
No, kind of.
Okay.
Darcy.
Ask me a question.
What would you do with an extra of daylight,
extra hour of daylight?
Okay.
What will you do with it?
What will I?
I think it would have to do with keeping
in better touch with family, not through text. Okay. What will you do? What will I? I think it would have to do with keeping
in better touch with family, not through text. Okay. So like, I think what I've realized as
throughout COVID and throughout aging, beautifully, is how much, how quickly so much time can pass
where you haven't talked to people
that you love so very much.
You talk to the people in your life every day
that you are in proximity to, close proximity.
But like my best friend who lives in the Bay Area,
we can all of a sudden go for a year
or go for six months or whatever it is.
And that starts making me feel really bad about life. and go for a year or go for six months or whatever it is.
And that starts making me feel really bad about life
and my life.
And I don't just mean sort of like checking off the list
of like, oh, who haven't I talked to?
But the people that like bring you love and joy
and people that you want in your life,
just maybe, I guess it's fucking phone calls. I don't
know. That's so hard. I think you should. Why a phone calls back? I don't know. I don't
think they are. And here's my thing. I, I am like, I call, you just call. I call, I
call everybody. I call. Nobody answers me. They don't answer, but then you call again.
Is everything okay? Just check it in. Just check.
So smart.
Oh I thought something was wrong.
Yes.
Nope nothing's wrong except something about the way I am.
Yeah yeah.
But other than that.
You just want to talk about me for a second.
How's everything going?
That's great.
This is a check-in.
Yeah that's right.
I'm driving somewhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I got time in the car.
I have time in the car.
I have 30 minutes before I get to my appointment.
So how are you?
Totally.
The best is also when you have a deep and good catch up
with someone until you hear the sounds of a car ride ending.
Yes, yes, yes.
You hear like the sounds of like click, click, click.
They're blinking, they're turning in, they're parking.
There's a ding, there's a traffic tick,
there's a parking slip.
Yes. And they're like,
it's been so good catching up.
So I'm sorry, if this ride was 10 minutes shorter
or 10 minutes longer, our relationship is exactly
as long as this car ride, not a second longer.
You would sit in the car to hear the end of a murder podcast,
but you wanna get off the phone because you're home now?
What the fuck is this?
What is any of it?
Things have gotten bad.
I would like to say that here is what I want to do with an hour of daylight.
Okay, well you already said it, but...
I want to put my phone in the house and I want to go outside and I want to be unreachable in the world,
nothing in my ears, nothing on my eyeballs,
except the universe for one hour.
One hour a day.
I could do that.
I could do that.
Have you ever?
No.
Come surfing with me.
Come surfing with me.
Every week my therapist says,
did you do your 10 minutes of stillness a day?
And I say, obviously I didn't. Look at me, look at how I am. No, I didn't your 10 minutes of stillness today? And I say, obviously I didn't.
Look at me, look at how I am.
No, I didn't do 10 minutes of stillness a day.
John, what if you did a 30 minute phone free walk
and you did it tomorrow?
That feels doable.
I'd go really uncomfortable.
Okay, I'll do it.
Yay!
And that's this segment. Here comes the sun.
You'll get an ADR.
And when we come back, we'll end on a high note.
And we're back.
Here it is, the high note.
Ding!
Hi, love it or leave it, this is Liz in Canada.
And my high note is that six months ago,
I moved from a very liberal
province to Alberta, which is Canada's most conservative province.
And I've never been politically active other than voting, but now that I'm in Alberta and
seeing the absolutely wild policies that our Premier is enacting, including some transphobic
ones, I decided that I need to get involved.
So this week, I officially became a member of the New Democratic Party, the NDP, Alberta's left party,
and I'm gonna volunteer and donate
and do everything that I can
to bring that back to power in our province.
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Thanks so much.
Hi, I love it.
This is Tracy in New York City.
I saw you live at Radio City Music Hall and I also saw you live in Amsterdam in the Netherlands
when I lived there.
My high note relates to the high note of Megan, who called in from San Diego on the January
27th show.
Her friend had COVID and then later had an unexplained paralysis. My son actually had
something very similar and it took a lot of research to get him to the right healthcare
providers. But I'm very happy to say that he slowly but surely was able to walk again
and was even skiing and he's doing much better.
If you Google functional neurological disorder,
which is what he was diagnosed with,
you'll end up on a website called FND Hope,
which is really useful.
And anybody who's interested can reach out to me.
I have a very weird half Dutch hyphenated last name,
so I'm easy to find on social media.
It's KDenton, K-E-I-J-denton, like Denton, Texas.
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