Lovett or Leave It - What a Weekday: Insurrection (at the Golden Globes)

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

New Year, New Weekday! Republicans celebrate their holiest of holidays, January 6, while Biden goes to Valley Forge to launch the 2024 campaign. Jo Koy brought his A-game to the Golden Globes and A-listers gave him an F, while Boeing offers an exciting new perk for their frequent flyers: the howling void.

My parents came out as hard anti-journaling as a practice this weekend, which I thought was very funny. What do you mean anti-journaling? They were like, what, when you're sad you write it down and later you look at it again? Oh my god. They were like, who gains from that? You're sad twice about the same thing? And I was like, how do they feel about therapy? Not anti, but not for them. Yeah, they're not going.

And we're back. I'm here with Brian, Kendra, Sarah, and Hallie. Hi. Hi. 2024, everybody. Woo! Just before we started, Brian caught me, I guess, what would you, psyching myself up?

Yeah, in a really self-contained way, lest you implode. Brian's crying a little bit. Yeah, it's intense already. I put all his energy into a single point in his body, and then I'm like... I'm a pro. I'm a pro. Yep. I'm a pro. Let's get into it. What a weekday.

In his first campaign speech of the year, President Biden used the anniversary of January 6th to lay out the stakes in 2024 and the ongoing threat Trump and his dumb movement poses to democracy. Laying out the stakes is actually how Trump used to describe making the girls line up from his universe. Let's hear from this old guy. Today we're here to answer the most important of questions.

Is democracy still America's sacred cause? Need it. This is not rhetorical, academic, or hypothetical. Whether democracy is still America's sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time. And it's what the 2024 election is all about. Well, it's one of the most urgent questions. Why are all the airplane doors falling off?

It's also up there. Actually, the airplane door thing is more urgent, but less important. You know, when you think about it. I also have a question about why they picked Joe Coy to host the Globes. They're urgent, nor important. Biden once again ran through the details of Trump's efforts to overturn the election and the cynical embrace of Trump by Republicans who know better. And now these MAGA voices who know the truth about Trump on January 6th have abandoned the truth and abandoned democracy. They made their choice. Now the rest of us, Democrats, independents, mainstream Republicans, we have to make our choice.

So will anyone help me try to hold this wriggling bag of crab's clothes for four more years, please? Because if not, Jill tells me Danny Kaye and the Andrews sisters are doing a review at the Grand Opera. That if only. I love Danny Kaye. I love you too. The Andrews sisters. We're young. What good is a gal without a guy?

There's a... I object to this. I object to the premise of that song. All right. I don't think we need to go into it. You're going to reminisce? I just love that old, like those old songs

with like kind of... He just loves those old songs. You know? There's one that's... There's a song called Civilization that I believe was used in the Fallout games. I'd say not the audience for it here,

but we believe you. I think so. You know who's talking to video games? Biden says this of his presumptive rival. Donald Trump's campaign is about him, not America, not you. Donald Trump's campaign is obsessed with the past, not the future. He's willing to sacrifice our democracy, put himself in power.

Then a crooked smile spread across Biden's lips as he stared directly into the camera and added, that's why we're going to call him Donald Duck. Biden delivered his speech near Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, where George Washington and his troops spent the winter of 1777 during the Revolutionary War. Yes, a poignant choice, said an undecided voter watching Netflix and YouTube at the same time. Biden explained the significance of the historical setting, as that was where Baron von Steuben once tried to fuck him. Do you like a Baron von Steuben reference? Yeah, I do.

Is he from Fallout? Baron Von Steuben reference? Yeah. I do. Is he from Fallout? Is he the imagined enemy that Snoopy thinks about when he's flying his little dog? Isn't that the Kylo Ren? The Red Baron. Oh, the Red Baron. So close. The Red Baron. The Red Baron crowd.

The Red Baron. Snoopy is from a time when dogs slept outside. Yeah. And weren't our children. I feel like they were our sons and daughters. They ate anything. Yeah. I saw a movie last night and the family dog was named Snoop.

Aw. I wouldn't even dog Snoop. What film? Anatomy of a Fall. Oh, I want to watch Anatomy of a Fall. It's really dark. Something bad happens to Snoop and I won't say anymore.

Well, you've said too much. But here's my question for you. What percentage of it is in English? More than I anticipated. I didn't fall asleep and I watched it after 9 p.m. 30%, 50%, 70%? I would say 70% is in English. Oh, really?

Wow, they got to put that on the poster. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, the Biden speech was great. I especially love the last line. In conclusion, abortion, abortion, abortion. God bless America. Then on Monday, President Biden reiterated his message at Charleston's Mother Emanuel AME Church, saying of Trump, losers are taught to concede when they lose. He's a loser. I don't care what you think of Biden or his presidency. It's cool to call someone a loser in church. Who would you call a loser from the pulpit?

I mean, where do we get? Wherever you want. I don't know about Bono. You start with the devil and you work your way. I don't know about Bono in that sphere. Get him. Get him. I want to see the sphere. It's pretty cool.

It seems cool, but I don't need to hear Bono music in front of it. Yeah, no, that's a problem. In front of it? I think inside of it. You know what I mean? You're going to sit outside. It's like, hey, it's like, the thing about the sphere is it's like, I'm interested in the sphere. I think it's cool.

It's sort of a, I love a big swing. You're an American. I think there's a nature documentary you can go see in there. Yeah, that's what I want to see. You know what it is? It's like, hey, a sphere is just two planetariums stuck together. I was denied a job at the LA Planetarium. Really?

Yeah. Why? My voice was too high. What? What? Space is a place where low-voiced men tell you what's happening.

Well, I went to the Planetarium at the Griffith Observatory, which I believe is the one you're referring to. Mm-hmm. Pays really well. What I loved about it was the person

who did the show, it's live every time, they put, they are, that is a performance of a lifetime. I like that that planetarium show is a place where the person doing the, there's Europa, there's

whatever you call it, Ganymedes or whatever, is waiting to be discovered. You know, like Chris Pratt at a California pizza kitchen in Hawaii. That's the job I wanted. I think you would have done great. I know. You would have done great. I know. You would have been great.

I think that's wrong. Do I for what? Yeah, honestly. I can't hear anything. They're lost in our game. The Milky Way. I think you would have been great at that. Yeah. The part of it is the woman who did the presentation

at the observatory, you hold a glowing orb. Is that what you were going to do? Yeah, I wanted to. It was the orb where I was like, I would hold that orb so good. You would have been great. Hey, if you work at the Griffith Observatory

and... On January 1st, 2025. Hey, come get this guy off our hands. All right. Well, that turned into a threat at the end there. Said Biden of Trump and his supporters who attempted to undermine the 2020 election. Challenge results, 60 losses in courts of America.

There's one thing they don't have. They don't have respect for the 81 million people who voted the other way. Voted for my candidacy. And voted to end the presidency. In their world, these Americans, including you, don't count. But that's not the real world. That's not democracy. That's not America. In America, we all count. Continued Biden, in fact, even this world, the one we all exist in, even this isn't the real world.

This is a simulation, which looks very similar to the real world, except that none of us have free will, okay? Only the feeling of free will. Some scientists at the Pentagon and the real world put this thing together, except the real world version is called an octagon, they tell me. Now, why is Jill waving her hands like that? Oh, yeah, okay. I wasn't supposed to say any of that. Forget I said that. Where was I? The church was the site of a mass shooting in 2015 in which nine parishioners were killed by white supremacists. So it was a little weird when Biden started his speech by insisting that he would have been a better Golden Globes host and then doing a bunch of jokes about salt burn. But you know what? He landed the plane. Meanwhile, Donald Trump marked the anniversary of the

insurrection he incited by glorifying the convicted rioters and calling for their release from prison. Oh, so he can remember an anniversary, said all of Trump's wives, including the dead one. Trump went on to say this during a campaign stop in Clinton, Iowa. You know what they ought to do? They ought to release the J6 hostages. They've suffered enough. They ought to release them. I call them hostages. Some people call them prisoners. I call them hostages. Release the J6 hostages, Joe. Release him, Joe. You can do it real easy, Joe.

What was the Joe thing? It's really menacing and strange. He's rocking a wild look right now, too tan he hasn't been this tan in a while looks great oh good but what joe it it was like he was trying to come up with one of his like patented nicknames that he knows and it wasn't for him but it wasn't coming sometimes he seems to get stuck on a sound that just like feels good to say and he's doing a bunch of times just getting a little groove. House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik on Sunday echoed Trump's creative reframing of January 6th during an appearance on Meet the Press.

I have concerns about the treatment of January 6th hostages. I have concerns. We have a role in Congress of oversight over our treatments of prisoners. And I believe that we're seeing the weaponization of the federal government against not just President Trump believe that we're seeing the weaponization of the federal government against not just President Trump, but we're seeing it against conservatives.

We're seeing it against Catholics. Hi, I'm Elise Stefanik. I'm 5'4". I hate the feeling of leaving a table and being alone in a bathroom with just my thoughts. And today I'm auditioning for the role of vice president. She has concerns about prisoners. Like, could we expand that? Oh, I don't think she'd like to oh no no speaking is maybe like the only person here who has family within the the jail system like that's insane you there were they just found a bunch of graves yes outside like a bunch of unmarked graves behind a prison in Jackson, Mississippi, where they have been burying prisoners without telling their family members that they died

in prison. And she's concerned about the January 6th people. Well, I think that's, I mean, fundamentally the problem with everything on their side is like, they don't actually care about anything. So it's like, even this, it's all, and it's not even convincing. Like if you're a Trump supporter, do you even believe they care about January 6th anymore? Like there's nothing behind it. So you're right. It's all so hollow and it applies to nobody else. I was watching, I was just one, I was watching something the other night where a woman like very clearly explained that if you're pregnant, we know the horrors of what happens when you're pregnant within the jail system. She explained that if you're pregnant, we know the horrors of what happens when you're pregnant within the jail system. She explained that if you are pregnant and you give birth in the jail system,

I did not know this, your baby leaves the jail system with a jail inmate number. Sorry, that just like really actually upset me. I just, it reminds me of when we had Josie Reisman on and talking about how wrestling is metaphor for all this, and this is just kayfabe. Like, no, she doesn't care about the January 6 prisoners. Nobody cares about the January 6 prisoners. It's a way of signaling your belonging to the group of people who are pretending that there's been some kind of an injustice committed against these people, because that's how you show your loyalty to Trump. Like she's never cared about prison reform and she never will. Yeah. And I think that's sort of like speaks to your point where it's just sort of like we're on the left then put in this position where like we have to have the arguments amongst ourselves about what to do and like how to fix these things, whereas like they are this void in this vacuum because they don't care. Like we can't even begin the conversation with

them because it would imply that they care about something getting better. Yeah. They're not going to have the debate with you. Yeah. But there is like there is we. It's a double edged sword because. They care about the noise. They care about the.

The kind of theater of politics and the performance of politics. And that does two things. Obviously, that makes politics a misery in ways. Like, it's not like our problems are easy to solve when there isn't a group of people just playing a bugle in our ear all the time. Like, doing hard math problems is hard without the bugle. Doing hard math problems is hard when without the bugle. But. One, it did mean that when this group of people had power, when Trump won, they couldn't do the things they promised to do. Right. They didn't shrink the government. They didn't repeal Obamacare. They did cut taxes and increase the deficit because cutting taxes is the fun and easy part. because cutting taxes is the fun and easy part. But they couldn't actually do the hard part of making policy. Even now, in the interest of theater, they remove a speaker of the House they don't like, replace Kevin McCarthy with Mike Johnson. And then Mike Johnson,

just this week, announces a deal with Schumer that's basically identical to the one McCarthy got because reality continues to be reality. And he gives them a sop of saying, I'll go along with impeaching Biden. I'll go along with impeaching the secretary of Homeland Security, even though that will come to literally nothing because the Senate will never remove him. And then you have these two split screen images. One is House Republicans threatening to impeach the secretary of Homeland Security for crimes TBD. And then on the other side, you have that same Homeland Security secretary negotiating with Senate Republicans on a deal to actually change border policy. Like they're not their lack of interest in actually doing

governing. It sometimes means we can't make America a better place, but it means they're not very good at making it a worse place sometimes, too. You know, right. You can't be effective truly without having a belief in the outcome. And they don't they don't believe in it. Like they don't believe in anything. So it does. They don't have the ability to like drive people towards an end. Fundamentally, they'll just drop it and then pick up something else. You have to go this horrible, endless cycle where it's like whatever seems like something they could use, like they'll just pick that up and then drop that and like move on to the next group. and like move on to the next group. Yeah, it's like, you know, oh, they're going to try to touch a rider about wokeness in the military. It's like, okay, it's like the adults are trying to figure out how to have a society.

Stefanik also refused to commit to certifying the 2024 election, no matter who wins, saying this. We will see if this is a legal and valid election. What we're seeing so far is that Democrats are so desperate, they're trying to remove President Trump from the ballot. Will I promise not to shoot up the bank again? Well, Kristen, we'll have to see if they hand over the big sacks of money. They're trying to turn this effort to remove Trump from the ballot in Maine and Colorado

into this version of Democrats being against democracy. And, well, I just think that's awful of them to turn our efforts to remove Trump for the ballot for specious reasons into some sort of attack on democracy. We should remove him from the ballot because we... Because we play to win? Yeah. Because people don't want to win anymore? Because he did an insurrection?

Because that thing he did, we all saw on TV? Well, it's also like, she's like, the Democrats are playing a win. And I'm like, that's not my experience of being a Democrat. Oh, yeah, I was like, us? You think we have a plan? You think Maine and Colorado were on the horn together? Yeah, the way Republicans talk about Democrats, like, God, that sounds amazing. I wish we were doing that.

It sounds like M6. Yeah, they really do make, like, you know, these Democrats, they're bloodthirsty. Half of us are on the Zoom, half of us on the Google Meet. Where are you? I hadn't seen, I'd only heard,

I'd only read the clips. I hadn't actually seen Elise Stefanik on Meet the Press. And I like, as terms of a look put together for the purposes. I hadn't actually seen Elise Stefanik on Meet the Press. And I like the, I like, in terms of a look put together for the purposes. She looks great because she's going to be the vice president. She knows what she's doing. But even that look,

like the pearls. It's sort of a black swan look. It's for, it's for, it feels like it's you know, it's for an audience of one. Well, you gotta, you can't be like Jim Jordan like coming out like, like you gotta at least look like a human. Well, you're like, I Jim Jordan coming out like, you gotta at least look like a human. Well, you're like, I want Natalie Portman to play me in the TV movie, and so I have to look relatively good.

Katie Mixon. Natalie Portman, really? Katie Mixon from Eastbound Down. I think this is going to be Natalie Portman's Julianne Moore as Sarah Palin. Oh, see, I'm seeing a Cecily Strong. I think in an SNL context. I'm in an HBO context. Okay. I think she could do both. I think she has the range. Okay.

I agree. Wow, this is interesting. Who's right for Elise Stefanik? Monica Lewinsky. Oh, also Mary Louise Parker. Yes. That's it. You got it.

Oh, God, I love her. Oh, my God. I could see Elise Stefanik just like drinking an iced coffee, biting the straw. Sitting on top of Josh's counter in his kitchen. Oh, man. That's a good scene. Yes. Meanwhile, speaking of places Trump supporters smear and shit,

in Congress, the deadline to pass a 2024 funding bill and avoid a government shutdown is fast approaching, as always. Last year, Mike Johnson managed to get House Republicans to join him in kicking the can down the road. And now we're here at the can again. This fucking can. Basically, there are two deadlines, one next week for one chunk of the government and one in February for the other chunk of the government.

It's like the federal government has ADHD and their therapist is teaching them to divide their big tasks into smaller, more manageable tasks. A shutdown seemed imminent. And then on Sunday, Senate Majority Leader and guy whose wife is in a long line for the women's room at a Broadway theater, Chuck Schumer, and House Speaker and guy whose wife believes theater is a sin and acting as a form of prostitution, Mike Johnson, announced that they had reached a spending deal. Just look at that. They look good. Yeah, they look good together. Just imagine the state of that room after they hash us out. Payday wrappers everywhere, egg salad crust, whatever weird underwear Mike Johnson has to wear so the devil doesn't control his balls or something a room where history was made in an act of camaraderie schumer allegedly bought bagels and locks which mike johnson held up with two fingers like indiana jones

in the temple of doom you know like what is this you eat this is it rude to you have to eat it or it's rude i don't think think Mike Johnson worries about that. He definitely has said the words your people though. Yeah. Yeah. That Schumer, he's a crafty one. He said to someone in private. God.

Because he's Jewish. Because Chuck Schumer is Jewish. Jewish. I feel like Mike Johnson says it in a way that would make us uncomfortable. You're doing the Trump. You're doing the Trump draw out. Jewish. Jewish. I feel like Mike Johnson says it in a way that would make us uncomfortable. You're doing the Trump. You're doing the Trump draw. Jewish. He would say a Jewish. Chuck Schumer is a Jewish. A Jewish.

It's better than the. You never like to hear the. The Jews. The blacks. Someone told me I was the first Jewish they ever met. Really? Yeah. I like that. I'm sorry, you were. The deal that Schumer and Johnson announced looks a lot like the deal struck in 2023 between President Biden and former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, which conservatives staunchly opposed at the time. Man, McCarthy must be so mad. Hope he doesn't take it out on the other clowns at clown college. Schumer called it a good deal for Democrats in the country, which is why Marjorie Taylor Greene exploded through the wall of the

Capitol like the Kool-Aid man the second she checked her work email. Meanwhile, in his letter to fellow House Republicans, Johnson pointed out IRS cuts, saying the result is a real savings to American taxpayers, but admitted that these final spending levels will not satisfy everyone. And boy, was he right. While campaigning with Ron DeSantis in Iowa, Congressman Chip Roy told the crowd, I got some text messages from, I won't say who, one of the Republican leaders today saying how much my tactics are not helpful, how they're ticking off some of my colleagues. I said, well, it's not going to be the first time and it's not going to be the last. I too like to announce it into a microphone when people at work are mad at me. I got some text messages from, and I won't say who, our office manager, Ben, saying how all the dishes I leave in the sink aren't helpful,

and that it's clear I'm actually bringing in dirty dishes from home. I said, well, while you were texting me, my dog peed in the kitchen. And the question is, how long can you live with that sitting there? Because I can go all fucking day. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. to host this year's Golden Globe Awards and said no, including Chris Rock, Ali Wong, and Smartless hosts Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, and Sean Hayes, before the award show landed on their pick, comedian Joe Coy. Just think, if you guys out there had put a little more effort into these Apple podcast reviews,

last month, Love It or Leave It could have been turning down the Golden Globes. Would you have turned it down? For the record... Is that even a question? For the record, I also said no. A lot of people don't realize this, but you don't have to wait until they ask you. You can just say it in your car or wherever.

So Joe Coy got the gig and the reviews are in. What? That's hilarious. Things took a turn almost as soon as the show began after Coy made a joke comparing Barbie and Oppenheimer in his monologue. Oppenheimer is based on a 721-page Pulitzer Prize-winning book about the Manhattan Project. And Barbie is on a plastic doll with big boobies. What a disgusting reduction.

This didn't make the movie, but the historical J. Robert Oppenheimer also had huge cans. He then became defensive and blamed his monologue writers. Yo, I got the gig 10 days ago. You want a perfect monologue? Yo, shut up. You're kidding me, right? Slow down. I wrote some of these and they're the ones you're laughing at. Look. I didn't realize you're allowed to do that. That's cool. We should start thinking about next year's ceremony, Golden Globes. If you're listening, I only need two days to put together a monologue and you can get these same results for less money. We wrote this show this morning

and you're welcome. Blaming your writers like that is pathetic and unprofessional. You need to call them each out by name, making it really sing or they'll never learn. Isn't that right, Sarah Lazarus? Now repeat the mantra we talked about. I'm worse than Chad GPT. Here's another gem. By the way, the color purple is also what happens to your butt when you take Ozempic.

The room, half the room is cringing and the other half is like, I gotta get home and grab my selfie stick. It's going to be home after the globes. Man, he was lying. It's more of a magenta. I don't even understand that one. And it's like too disgusting to like try to like peel apart and dive into. It's also like you could just like see your butt without having to like put yourself on like.

All right. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. Anyway, you think you could beat that joke in 10 days? I can become a whole new person in 10 days. We do two vlogs a week. I could, I could change my entire life. I just, I don't even.

I, I get it was like the color purple or blank, but, but why would your butt be purple? There's no way this guy didn't have a bunch of other options for the color purple. Yeah but but why would your butt be purple there's no way this guy didn't have a bunch of other options for the color purple yeah it's a color it's a part i'm sure there's a dozen other jokes i thought he was talking maybe about diarrhea but then like the joke was not clear enough also my diarrhea isn't purple well that's that's what i well that's the thing that's what i jumped to i was like well then there's something more wrong than just the Ozempic. Yokoi loves grapes. I think it's vaguely referencing the fact that on Ozempic or Manjaro, there's like gastrointestinal, there's gastrointestinal things. Right? Is that what vaguely it's referencing?

Then we're still missing several steps. Right. But it wouldn't turn your butt purple. It was the wrong word choice of butt. Well, what would turn purple again i'm assuming he's talking about like i don't think yeah i don't think that i wasn't challenging your belief we're trying to figure out this man's bad joke it's like it's like play with the idea of like being too thin like there's like use the references of people when

you say ozempic you then have to be like, oh, it turns your butt purple. It's like, well, it doesn't. And also, what are we talking about? And then he doesn't act out with a selfie stick. Yeah, we look to the side of the butt. Why is the selfie stick here? In front of Meryl Streep. Also, in his act out, he's not using a selfie stick. He's just holding the phone. He's just holding the phone, yeah.

Right, yeah, you don't need the selfie stick to see your butt. Oh, that's the point you were making. Bathroom. And then former Golden Globes host Ricky Gervais won the show's first ever Best Stand-Up Comedy Award for his Netflix special Armageddon, but didn't bother to attend the ceremony. In the clip the Golden Globes chose to show to highlight Ricky Gervais' special, he says that he received backlash for saying things you can't say, but said them anyway. And then he received a Golden Globe for saying he will keep saying the things you cannot say. It really was a tough night for stand he will keep saying the things you cannot say it really was a tough night for stand-up on the whole i like the i know it's like kind of goes without saying at

this point but i watched like the first five minutes of the ricky gervais special like i watched like i am just interested in the like the netflix anti-cancel culture comedy vertical that they seem to have going. And like you watch the Chappelle special and obviously there's like parts about it that are gross, but also parts that are just like excellent. Like he's just an incredible performer, an incredible storyteller. It's now self-aggrandizing. Clearly like when you build part of your identity around the fact that your critics are going too far. You don't you train yourself, I guess, not to listen. So there's a lot of stuff where it's like, oh, I don't think there's a lot of feedback here.

There's a lot of like patting yourself on the back. Same thing with Ricky Gervais. But I watched the first like few minutes of the Ricky Gervais special, and it is insufferable. Like it is literally someone saying like they there was a lot of backlash to my last special. But here I am saying this anyway. And the first time you did it, it was on a multi-million dollar Netflix special. Now you're responding to it in a multi-million dollar Netflix special. In between those two specials, you were working on this very special. And, and there's no, there's just no

awareness. There's no awareness of the fact that like, Hey, like it, you did receive some criticism. Like I'm sure there was like a vulture article and like several angry tweets and posts about some of your standup, which is stupid and reductive and anti-trans and, you know, embarrassing and hacky and whatever, But there's no consequences for that negative criticism. So really, you just don't like being criticized. And like, of course, a group of very powerful and wealthy and successful celebrities would choose to recognize that position because nobody likes being criticized. I think it's like basically in order to do stand up, you have to come from an aggrieved place like you kind of like having

done stand up. It's like you have to have a chip on your shoulder. The problem is once you get to their level, who is the like what is the chip? And I think that they don't know. They don't have anything other than being criticized. Nothing bad does happen to them. They could actually like challenge politicians or do something like they could really try to do something with their platform. But if but once you reach a certain level, there's nothing there's no pushback. So you have to fabricate pushback or like you have to be like, oh, again, like somebody it was like a move on dot org petition about him making fun of terminally ill children.

And it'd be like, could you believe they said that? It's like, yeah, but you'll just talk about your next special. Like those whoever the 12 people who signed that like this isn't gonna they aren't like a real threat to you but there's no friction in your life yeah so there's no comedy like there isn't anywhere to go with it well it's kind of like i always say and i won't name the people i say this about but there are certain writers in television name them no i'm not going to i'm absolutely not going to but there are certain writers in television where you can tell there comes a point where they have become so successful that they have to stop interacting with like real people and doing real tasks every day the stuff that like gets you material to write about and that's when they're writing like takes a precipitous

drop in quality because they're not having experiences anymore yeah wild but also like to be a great insult comic like you need specificity like like call people out ricky gervais like trump has like his name and names like and and we think that's funny like the they all stick like the the like vague like abstract like i'm aggrieved because people came after me like can't be funny because like you're not actually saying anything like catullus named his critics in like his insult poems well that's what i mean it's like it's like everyone's a critic is the oldest kind of stand-up like it's literally thousands of years old like yeah like oh everybody's a critic like yeah that's yeah it's

annoying i do think that like there are two parts of it beyond what you're saying which i all think which i think is right like one is i do think that like it's clearly gotten worse to be very famous like i do think it used to be more fun like you could be on drugs and drunk and drive your car through a storefront at beverly hills and then put 200 dollars in the pocket of somebody and it was gone you're saying 1976 that was the peak year but and so that that like celebrity came with so many perks right like just like being famous was so valuable like restaurants money access people telling you how great you were all the time and there just weren't as many downsides

there and smartphones obviously like there's the part of it where it's just like there's just more coverage of these people like jerry seinfeld can't pick up a high school student in a park today because when he right well i feel so sad for him and we do right but like he could do that because there were stories about it but that's it there's no what are you gonna do microfiche like it's over there's no there was no other place for these things to live forever it was just in the newspaper on television then it was gone that was it now it would live forever. But also it's like these people go into a store or like they go somewhere and basically like they have to be on their best behavior all the time.

Right. And so like they're all reacting to that. And so when Ricky Gervais gets criticism for making fun of Make-A-Wish or whatever. And he gets bad tweets about it online. Like, all these people really relate. Like, there's a reason they pick him. Make-A-Wish was mad at me last week. Also, by the way, your dog is snoring and it's very cute. But I would also say, like, the whole best behavior thing. I think it's like, yes, you do have to be on your best behavior.

But also it's like, I don't know. I feel like I operate on just like a baseline level of like normal goodness that you can just like. You're not out in the middle of the night causing mayhem and hoping that he takes a picture. You should just be able to operate on that like baseline good. If you're a good person, it shouldn't be about being on your best behavior. I know the reason I was like I'm like dwelling on it around the Ricky Gervais thing is like I do think even beyond him, Hollywood is a group of people desperately trying to seem in touch. And that can mean like kind of basically two things. One is seeming young and the other is seeming kind of like middle class. And like both of those

things, you can't, they, both of those things, you, one, you lose automatically and the other, you lose by getting into that room in the first place. So because of that, they're all just sort of obsessed with cancel culture. Well, it's like it's fundamentally it's like it is the only way that they could desperately grasp for relevance. Like you said, if you're not young, you're not middle class, how do you stay relevant? And the answer is for me, it's like I'm never going to give Ricky Gervais a dime. That's loser behavior. Like whenever he talks about you're a huge loser and you don't seem aware of it. So it's like, I'm not saying that's everybody. I'm sure there's an audience for that.

But like, I just think eventually over time, it's like people want new stuff. It cannot be just this. Because to me, it's like how many how many trans jokes that are the same joke can you put in multiple? It's incredible. Like, can you be a giraffe if you want to be a giraffe? Like many times are we gonna do this we gotta move on but what's strange to me i know god well i'll move on too we gotta move on in this thing but like what's strange is how much applause these things get like there is a big audience of people that want like that want to

live vicariously through the experience of feeling like you can't say anything anymore. And like, I just like thinking about it because I think we have to figure out a way to capture the like sense of like, I don't know, the libertine sense that they seem to be kind of like speaking to, but like with our own ethics, you know, like to what you were saying earlier, it's like, they don't believe in anything. So they can say whatever they want. Fine. Like we have certain values that that makes it that limits the meaning of words, limits the ways we can use these words. Fine. Like we have to find a way to like capture the sense of like rebelliousness and counterculture and like freedom to say whatever you want. Spirit that they seem to be speaking to that's really valuable to people while doing it in a way that like honors our politics.

And like it's very hard i think to think through that but like i think it's what we have to do because yeah yeah actually i had a conversation with a friend yesterday who loves dave chappelle and has watched all the specials and then saw the most recent one he's like yeah i guess why does he keep talking about trans people i think it's like even people who are fans are like why is this like what are we doing and i was like yeah that i just don't i just think they're reaching a point where it's like what's the next thing what is something else well he gave you the next thing unfortunately and it was him doing weird hand things yeah talk about disabled people so we have that next thing we can't go all

the way back around and attack terribly ill kids and disabled people my god yeah and i do think loser behavior and just to put a, just to like close this loop. Chappelle at the end of 2023 is being avant-garde and edgy in his special by doing the disabled person hand gesture that Trump did back in what, 2017? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Barbie became the first movie to win in the Golden Globebes' new category, Cinematic and Box Office Achievement, which was created to recognize films for their financial success. A spokesperson for the Golden Globes explained, until we develop the technology to count how much money a movie makes,

this award will have to suffice. And speaking of rooms with the oxygen sucked out of them, an Alaska Airlines flight made an emergency landing in Portland on Friday after the plane lost a chunk of its fuselage, a door plug filling in an unneeded emergency exit at 16,000 feet. Next time I use this airline, I'll ask for an aisle seat. Huh? Uh-huh.

Yes. That was good. Alaska Airlines explained the emergency exit is unneeded because it's easier to just use the plane as one big coffin. Thank God a distraction, said a flight attendant getting bitten by a pack of unruly passengers. A person on board filmed the footage and posted it to TikTok. The most disturbing part, no TVs in the headrests. Fortunately, no one was seated in the window seat directly next to the gaping maw, but for an extra $300, one lucky passenger on the next flight will get to experience

floor-to-ceiling views in the coveted window plus seat. Investigators at the NTSB said Monday that they found the door plug that blew off mid-flight. As predicted, it had fallen to the ground. Two phones that fell out of the plane have also been recovered. At least one, an iPhone, was found fully intact, still on, and showing an email

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