Lovett or Leave It - What a Weekday: Iowa and the Emmys

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Put your frostbitten hands together for another What a Weekday! Lovett sprinkles a layer of salt on the frigid Republican Iowa caucus, while the Emmys leave the Golden Globes out in the cold. For a c...losed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What was the second callback at the very end? Oh, MLK. And the greatest thing about MLK is that that speech was one of the greatest TV moments of all time. I will say that my vision of how the Emmys were orchestrated was they got the date and they were like, OK, so we now need to orchestrate backwards from this clip. Like that was the starting point. Also, get it done early. starting point. But also,
Starting point is 00:00:23 get it done early. Ending the show with a clip of I Had a Dream and the hook being the TV Academy decided this was one of the greatest moments in TV history.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And the fact that they showed it then twice because they showed it once during that montage and then at the end of the show, which diminishes. They referenced 9-11
Starting point is 00:00:36 and then showed the 9-11 clip. Did they say that 9-11 was one of the other great moments? Yes. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Which actually was my thesis's thesis, but. Oh, okay. We'll figure it out. And we're back. I'm here with Kendra. I'm here with Hallie.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'm here with Brian. It's true. Sarah's in the shadows and off mic today. Literally just a white face kind of just like shining through. Yeah, she's... Yeah. It's a really good lighting for you, actually. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 So Sarah's in all black. She's a Babadook. Sarah's doing what we call Babadooking. I'm seeing face, I'm seeing ankle. And it's working. Did you see that movie where Nicolas Cage is in your dreams?
Starting point is 00:01:32 No, but I want to. He does a kind of Lazarus-like appearance in the shadows. Let's get into it. What a weekday. The Emmys started off right on Monday evening with the appearance of a terrifying goblin. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 If you're hearing this as a podcast, okay. But the way that the goblin waves like a gay boy, it's just a gay wave. I love the gay wave. Do we know which queen that was? I was wondering when they were on stage. We do, I believe it was Princess Poppy everyone should be doing this at the Emmy
Starting point is 00:02:08 everyone should be in costumes like this, it's fun I like it that she has a handbag but her fingers are also a mile long so it's not like she could open it anyway, the appearance of the Emmy's goblin does mean there will be six more weeks of Ricky Gervais after winning for her performance in White Lotus, Jennifer Coolidge oddly decided to thank the infamous murderers Leopold and Loeb. I want to thank all the evil gays. You know, I just really, really. You're welcome, whispered Ezra Miller from deep within
Starting point is 00:02:41 their fortified compound. Throughout the evening, host Anthony Anderson had his mom play off any winners whose acceptance speeches ran too long. I know, I'm getting wrapped up. Okay, yes. Okay. Baby. Yes, and I just... I love you, baby, but time. Okay, guess what? Guess what? One more thing. I love you. I just want to say one thing.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Okay, one thing. One last thing. This... Kendra, thoughts? Okay, one last thing. This is literally how Scientology has tried to get me because I can't be rude to an old black woman. And so whenever they've tried to recruit me, it's been an old black lady because if I was in that position, I wouldn't have said any word after she said baby. I would have just said yes, ma'am and walked off stage. It was a long walk to make that about you. So where are you at in Scientology at this point?
Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm not there. They've tried, though. I'm going to get brunch at the place. Really? Yeah. Is this supposed to be good? Yeah, it's good, and it's apparently pretty cheap. At the green building or the blue building?
Starting point is 00:03:38 I don't know. I'll go to both. Let's go. Let's go. So, did the mom, as playoff music, music did it work it was a little awkward and it sounded it seemed like after this one there was a long break before they had her do it again and i wondered if they just realized it was not going to play super well throughout the whole thing they should have just done this it had to be one and then cut it yeah i was actually impressed by how it didn't work that
Starting point is 00:04:01 well but i was impressed that she felt like empowered to actually interrupt and like make herself a scene the thing about that is so i i forget what sponsorship anthony anderson has he has so many she is in commercials with him a bunch and it's i've always thought that she was an actress because i was like his mom is not in these commercials no she's just on she's in commercials with him she's on like whatever fox game show that he hosts with him too so this woman is working she's having like a him. She's on like whatever Fox game show that he hosts with him too. So this woman is working. She's having like a, I don't know, some sort of renaissance. What's a reverse Nepo baby when your child is more famous and you get to ride their coat
Starting point is 00:04:33 ropes? A Nepo mommy. A Nepo mommy. Yeah. Like Justin Bieber's dad. A Nepo daddy. Nice. Taking home a Best Supporting Actress Emmy for Dahmer, Niecy Nash gave the exact speech I would deliver if I ever won an award.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And you know who I want to thank? I want to thank me. For believing in me and doing what they said I could not do. And I want to say to myself in front of all you beautiful people, go on girl with your bad self you did that this is gonna become the most insufferable TikTok sound cue or whatever you call it
Starting point is 00:05:16 lip sync thing all these people are gonna take it and just you know after you get an A on your test. That's funny. I'll enjoy seeing them. Yeah, you're right. She also went on to say, I want to thank the big guy who made all this possible.
Starting point is 00:05:37 You know who I'm talking about. Jeffrey Dahmer. Roy Wood Jr. mouthed the phrase, please hire a host over and over again during Trevor Noah's Daily Show exception speech. Hey, Jon Stewart, where are you, my friend? So funny. Thank you for asking me to come and join you on this crazy journey. Slow. He's enunciating. Thank you to these people. We did it, baby. We did it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Sadly, the one person who still works at Comedy Central was not watching the Emmys, but was instead loading up this week's office reruns. Kieran Culkin used his succession acceptance speech to ask his wife for more children. And of course, my beautiful wife, Jazz. Thank you for sharing your life with me and for giving me two amazing kids, Zisu and Wilderwolf. I love you so many and so much. And Jazz, I want more.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You said, you said maybe if I win. I love you so much. Thank you. First of all, we all know that Culkins reproduce asexually. But also, what does it mean to say I love you so many and so much? That's just a nice thing you say to your kids. It's like I love you 3,000 from... Did I really bring you up more than Azizu and Wilderwolf?
Starting point is 00:06:55 I was a liar. I don't clock Hollywood celebrity names. It's just, yes, white noise. What were the names? To want a third after Azizu and Wilderwolf, where do you go? names? To one to third after Azizu and Wilderwolf. Where do you go? Those are the names? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Azizu and Wilderwolf? Wilderwolf. That's awesome. Yeah, well, number three has to be Wildest. Eben Moss Backrack smooched Matty Matheson as soon as he started
Starting point is 00:07:20 his acceptance speech for The Bear. I just want to thank restaurants as a whole, hospitality as a whole. I love you, Evan. Despite the length, redeeming this kiss, straight. You know, everyone's favorite comedy, The Bear. I like The Bear.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I think The Bear is awesome because it's such a great comedy. And this was for season one of The Bear, which was even sadder than season two of The Bear. Right, because these are last year's Emmys. Yeah, this makes no sense. I don't think The Bear this makes no sense i don't think the bear deserved to sweep i don't think beef deserved to sweep i think succession deserved to sweep and that's my only hot take i you know what's funny because we did you do brian organizes the crooked emmy pool it's true less fewer and fewer people every year well that's a bummer
Starting point is 00:08:18 why do you think that is not for lack of trying all i watch is literally horror movies i don't watch tv i don't have time. I, if I had, I didn't realize, I thought this was for the second season of the bear. So the globes, which were before this were for the second season.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So that's why I did poorly because I thought that Barry was going to recognize. Yeah. I thought they were going to do more to recognize Barry's last season because, but is this for Barry's last season? It was. Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't realize it was the first time
Starting point is 00:08:46 they got a shot at the bear. I thought this was, I thought this was the bear in the middle. I think it's unfair because I think it's the bear riding off season two's coattails. Like it's bear season one getting credit for season two being still good.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Right. It's almost like these awards are all kind of made up and it's just like the PR people. Did we all know that Bill Hader and Ali Wong were dating? I don't like watching them kiss. I'll say that. Oh, they kiss. Yeah. I'd watch that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 But you can't. What the hell am I doing talking to you people? One of the night's biggest winners was Netflix's Beef, which dominated the limited series category with wins for both Steven Yeun and Ali Wong. Beef. It's what's for winner. Hell yeah. Hey, don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:30 There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Of course, Los Angeles wasn't the only place celebrating TV stars of yesteryear. In Iowa, Republicans braved record freezing temperatures to say with resounding certainty, yeah, we're terrible. Donald Trump won the caucuses with 51 percent, followed by Ron DeSantis at 21 percent and right behind him, Nikki Haley at 19 percent. Probably the best way to have Nikki Haley right behind you. The worst way being a week after you watch the ring video. Terrible day for America, sure. But on the bright side, it was a terrible day for Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:10:03 The results were so emphatic. The Associated Press called the caucus after the doors closed, but before the caucuses were finished, which meant Iowans could see on their phone that Trump won before getting a chance to vote. Other outlets followed quickly behind. Look, I actually, like the DeSantis people went nuts over this, and I am sympathetic. Like Like you shouldn't call elections while people are still voting. It's just obnoxious. And it's not it's not like it's actually news because it's still just a prediction. Right. Like it's not like it's not I you know, news outlets don't have to be there's no obligation to kind of not get ahead of a voter. There's no like if you know something, you know something.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And it's one thing to allow for results to start coming in, right? Like if, you know, if polling places are closed, like in Florida, there were in 2000, it was actually a deal that they called it when parts of the panhandle were still able to vote. I don't have a problem with the results coming in because those are actual facts. Those are actual objective bits of data coming in. But calling an election based on a prediction isn't a scoop. It's a weather report. You know, it's just it's getting ahead of it. The AP defended their decision, saying early analysis of their large voter survey and the turnout in eight key precincts showed Trump had an insurmountable lead. But that's sort of like beside the point. Like, yeah, like you can lean down and tell a kid that the Globetrotters are going to beat the Washington generals before
Starting point is 00:11:34 the tip off. You're right. But that doesn't make it journalism. You know what I mean? It's comedically hilarious, but you are morally correct. I think, you know, the Globetrotters, that does nothing for you. So imagine you starting a fire. And now you're talking about basketball and I don't even know you anymore. You knew basketball though. Slam dunk. What?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Slam dunk. Dribble. To compose this wonderful set of sentences, I couldn't remember what it was called when a basketball game begins and i knew it wasn't a kickoff no it's you said you said it's tip off because they they put it up high in the air and you tip it yeah i don't even want to name all that i think it was a get it back to your people yeah just a tip it back to your people. Right, Milo? Going back to Iowa, which we were talking about, it doesn't affect the outcome like Trump would have won no matter what. But it does affect the results. Because I'd be like, it is cold. I am tired. I do want to go home.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Ultimately, especially in a contest like this, it doesn't matter. But it does affect the actual statistics of the election. Yeah. Yeah. If something feels inevitable, then it kind of becomes inevitable in the voters' minds because then they will leave, like Brian is saying. First of all, Iowa caucus goers showing up in one of the coldest winters they've ever had to caucus for Donald Trump are people that I would say have a healthy skepticism of the media. And they're sitting there, they've made like they've made this track, they're participating in the process, it's what they should be doing. And they get an alert on their phones in the room, they're about to do this thing that's going to take an hour, it could take a long time,
Starting point is 00:13:20 that says it's over. It's like so insulting. And like, obviously, fuck these people. They can freeze their balls off. But if this was like the reverse situation and it was a competitive, it was a Democratic presidential primary. It wasn't competitive in this state, but there were real opponents, right? Whatever that equivalent would be.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like we would be so frustrated. If let's say it was, we were in a situation where Warren and Bernie were challenging Joe Biden right now and each were doing much worse than him. And they called it for Biden before people had a chance to actually caucus. We'd be fucking rib shit and we would be right to be because it's so obnoxious. It's just like so disrespectful to the people that are actually participating in the process. And like they can claim all they want, like, oh, they knew they know. Fine.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Sure. It's actually not. The results are the results, like even the way we digest actual results is silly. Like, you know, they do like trickling in from this county and this county and the needle moves back and forth and it looks like this person's going to win. It's going to look like that person's going to win. There is an answer. They will be counted.
Starting point is 00:14:29 100% of the results will be counted, and then we will have the answer. And that is the only important actual bit of news, like who actually won this contest. And your ability to use data science to predict the outcome is like it's a magic trick, but it's not actual journalism. And I don't begrudge them for doing it. I'm glad that right after, you know, the polls close, they can give us a sense of what's going to happen, which is all they're doing, giving us a sense of something wrong with any of that, unless they do it before the actual gathering of the facts is done. Like the experiment is still running. You know, you can't, you can't get, you can say you think the vaccine is going to work, but you don't get to put it out into the world until you've actually done the test. Do you know, was it Arizona that Fox called
Starting point is 00:15:17 that Trump got really upset about in the last election? Yes. I remember when that happened, there was a bunch of reporting about how logistically that decision got made. Like who actually are the decision makers that call things early? Do you have a sense of like, is it like one guy at the AP that does this? Or did they know in advance, if this was going to be a landslide that they were going to call it as soon as humanly possible? Or was that a game
Starting point is 00:15:37 time decision? Do you have any idea? I don't know how they decided. I don't understand. I don't know how they decided that they were not going to wait for the caucuses to be done. Like caucuses are a strange and unique form of voting. Normally, you know, they wait. It is their policy now. It wasn't always right. It was, you know, there are the kind of like generational arguing over Bush v. Gore and what actually happened continues, right? Like there are Bush people who claim to this day that when Florida was called, when most of the state had closed, but the panhandle, which was very pro-Bush, was still voting, that when they had called it for Gore, it caused people to stay home, which more than it made up for the 500 votes. There's the, oh, the Supreme Court shut it down argument around Bush v. Gore. But then there's the kind of under argument, which is like, well, the Pat Buchanan votes from the butterfly ballots mean that Gore really should have won. And then the Bush people say,
Starting point is 00:16:37 but the panhandle people would have shown up for Bush, but the media called it for Gore, so Bush would have won. Anyway, I am sure what the AP had was a model that would predict what the overall vote total would be based on what happened in a few key precincts. Those precincts came in. Those tracked with what their models expected. That meant that it was a certainty that Donald Trump was going to win by double digits at the very least. And so they felt like they were in a position to call it when when when Fox News called Arizona, the Trump people were completely correct to be pissed. That was a very daring call. And it is by the skin of their teeth that their prediction bore out.
Starting point is 00:17:27 But the logic of their prediction does not hold up. They kind of they didn't walk it back. They stood by it. But I think it's clear like that was like a incredibly aggressive call. But yeah, I mean, like, I think they have groups of people watching to see. They say like, all right, these are bellwether places, right? They can probably, you can look at a map and say, all right, in the past few elections, the margin in this county has mirrored the state. The margin in this county has been what the state ultimately did, minus seven, plus five, whatever. And if you get enough of those data points where the map on the whole is shaping up to have a distribution that looks like what
Starting point is 00:18:12 they expected, and then in those key counties, they're getting results that mirror a certain margin of victory. As more of those places come in, the more and more it is all but impossible that the state as a whole is doing differently than what they expected. Does that make sense? But, uh, Hey, I'm laughing either way. Yeah. I mean, we were saying that like, it's also like the, the trick that Trump has pulled is convincing people that winning Iowa with 51 percent is a strong showing for an incumbent president. We talked about this last night on the Posse America show. As Dan pointed out, virtually everyone that voted last night in the Iowa caucuses are people who voted for Trump once or twice before, maybe in primaries
Starting point is 00:19:07 as well. But basically, a bunch of people that have voted for Trump for president showed up, and about half of them decided to go in another direction. If this was Joe Biden in that situation, we would call him extraordinarily weak. Donald Trump is getting the benefits of incumbency and also the benefits of being a challenger. He's getting all the political benefits of the inevitability of having been the incumbent and the name ID and the institutional support. But he's also getting the expectations of a challenger in terms of his vote totals. of a challenger in terms of his vote totals. So when he wins by 50, everyone says that's amazing. When in reality, if this was, uh, if he had just, if he, if, if he wasn't just the president,
Starting point is 00:19:57 when in reality, if he was the current sitting president getting those, getting those results, you'd say, oh, wow, like this is the weakest, uh, incumbent president we've, we've ever seen since, you know, since Kennedy challenged Carter. In his victory speech, Trump issued this statement of unity. It would be so nice if we could come together and straighten out the world and straighten out the problems and straighten out all of the death and destruction that we're witnessing. That's practically never been like this. It's just so important. It's practically never been like this just seems like something you'd scream in a panic after clogging a friend's toilet during a party.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's practically never been like this. It's just words. It's just nonsense words. Trump also acknowledges rivals DeSantis and Haley. I want to congratulate Ron and Nikki for having a good time together. We're all having a good time together. And
Starting point is 00:20:51 I think they both actually did very well. I really do. I think they both did very well. We don't even know what the outcome of second place is. Whenever Trump is gracious like this, he has the energy of a kid on a diving board saying mom mom, watch, you know, like you just can't look. Look what I'm doing. I'm being so nice. I'm being so nice to them.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Once the votes were tallied, Ron DeSantis came in a distant second to Trump, lagging by 30 points with Nikki Haley bringing in third. To be fair to Ron, it's hard to catch up when you're running in heels. be fair to Ron, it's hard to catch up when you're running in heels. DeSantis told his supporters at his Iowa campaign. DeSantis told his supporters at his Iowa campaign event. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at us. They spent almost 50 million dollars attacking us. No one's faced that much all the way just through Iowa. They the media was against us. They were writing our obituary months ago. They even called the election before people even got a chance to vote. But they were just so excited about the fact that they were predicting that we wouldn't be able to get our ticket punched here out of Iowa. But I can tell you, because of your support, in spite of all of that that they threw at us, everyone against us, we've got our ticket punched out of Iowa.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Classic Ron DeSantis. He has his one moment to be on the national stage. He speaks for four minutes, spends most of it attacking the media, does not mention Trump, does not include any campaign message whatsoever, does some dumb we-got-our-ticket-punch bullshit that means nothing, delivers the whole thing in a nasally monotone, and fucks off. Just an absolute world-class loser. What a fucking loser. Ticket punch sounds like a sex thing.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's so straight. I'm trying to get my ticket punched, you know? Hey, let's go out later, see if we can get our ticket punched. Got a riddled ticket. It's also like the media said, like, it's such a it's such a politician's. Like. Way of dealing with a loss like this, because the media said we wouldn't get our ticket punched out of Iowa. Well, they were wrong. We did get our ticket punched.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And it's like, no, the media said that you and your campaign are an abject failure. They did write your obituary. They were correct. You were dead. You're dead now. You are sick sensing this thing. You've been dead the whole fucking time. And then it's like, oh, we got we got our ticket punched.
Starting point is 00:23:41 What do you mean? Like, it doesn't mean anything like you're going to keep going. That's what you're saying. You're saying I don't have to drop out. But that's a decision you make. You're deciding you can handle more of this indignity. No one's stopping you from continuing to run. You have to make that choice yourself. You have to decide how much more of this you can take. It just so it speaks to how hollow everything he's ever done is is that like within your own state you spent the last however many years like railing about i got like the woke mind virus and like interfering with like ap african-american history and then you have a platform and he's
Starting point is 00:24:18 like you know they're just out here hating iran it's like oh right you don't actually give a fuck about any of that stuff you're doing. And now that you are in this place, we realize, like, actually nobody, like, on the world, on the national stage, it's not compelling. You have nothing. Because that's all you had.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah, it's, um, let's, it's good to compare it, actually, to Nikki Haley's speech. Because Nikki Haley actually, I think, had a message. She has a real message. Let's watch it. I can safely say, tonight, Iowa made this Republican primary a two-person race. No, no, no, shouted Ron DeSantis, rising up out of a pudding bath like a Harkonnen.
Starting point is 00:25:02 DeSantis rising up out of a pudding bath like a Harkonnen. Trump must have been absolutely rip shit that he listened to his goon advisors and showed grace towards Haley because she did not return the favor. And the question before Americans is now very clear. Do you want more of the same? Or do you want more of the same? Or do you want a new generation of conservative leadership?
Starting point is 00:25:38 The question is clear. Do you want this old bucket of pig slop or this brand new bucket of pig slop? But then Haley went on to say this. But when I say more of the same, you know what I'm talking about. It's both Donald Trump and Joe Biden. They have more in common than you think. 70% of Americans don't want another Trump-Biden rematch. A majority disprove of both of them.
Starting point is 00:26:25 They both have referred to the whole pronoun situation. They both have elaborate hair rituals they will die before being able to even joke about. They both say, now that was an actress about women who have been dead for 50 years. Republicans have lost the popular vote in seven of the last eight presidential elections. That's nothing to be proud of. We should want to earn the support of a majority of Americans. I think it's cool that Nikki Haley waited until she lost Iowa by 30 points to start talking this way. Every week she gets bolder as her candidacy becomes even less plausible.
Starting point is 00:27:01 All the evidence says that if it's a Trump Biden rematch, it's going to be another toss up election. It could go either way. We could have more disputes over election interference and Joe Biden could win again. With Kamala Harris waiting in the wings. Lord help us if that happens. The joke's on Haley. Kamala wasn't even watching. Too close to breaking her high score on that skee-ball machine. And now it's on to New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:27:36 There's a debate scheduled, but with Haley's whole message being about Ron DeSantis being a dead fucking nerd ghost. She is refusing to debate anyone but Trump, saying we've had five great debates in this campaign. Unfortunately, Trump has ducked all of them. He has nowhere left to hide. The next debate I do will either be with Donald Trump or with Joe Biden. DeSantis replied in the most DeSantis way possible, saying I won't snub New Hampshire voters like both Nikki Haley and Donald Trump. I plan to honor my commitments. I look forward to debating two empty podiums in the Granite State this week.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Even his threats are the most pathetic thing you've ever heard. I look forward to debating two empty podiums. It'll be like I'm back at Harvard and the debate club van left me behind because no one would stand a chance, I assume. I never thought Ron DeSantis would pull me into his corner, but I'm a single-issue voter and my issue is getting to watch ronda santos lose to two empty podiums said the two podiums oh no wish we could super busy let's definitely hang soon though did you um did you yesterday i think it was eric trump that said uh during trump's presidency there was world peace yes there were no or there were no wars and there was world peace that was the one i heard i really liked that that. That's funny. It's cool. Yeah. It ended with an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:28:48 There were people dying at the Capitol. We were actively at war his entire presidency. Yeah, yeah. He killed an Iranian general in the middle of the day. We got stuck in our houses for a year and a half. Yeah. Yeah. It was violence in the streets.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Literally. Yeah. They used tear gas in Lafayette Square, remember? Yeah. God, yeah. World peace. I do think it's like, to Hallie's point, that like, oh, you know, Rhonda Sanders did this woke stuff for a long time. Like, Rhonda Sanders did well among abortion voters, right?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Like clearly there's some group of like kind of social issue voters that Rhonda Sanders is making his case against. But the majority of people who voted in the Iowa caucus believe Donald Trump won the election. The majority of them want an abortion ban. You know, they're just like, it's a right wing group of people. But even among Iowa caucus goers, a big chunk, it was like 32 percent, said that if Donald Trump is convicted, he will be unfit to be president. Now, they probably also believe Joe Biden is unfit and faced with two unfit options. I assume that they would show up for Donald Trump. But like the fact that he's getting 51 percent as the incumbent, the fact that there are these convictions potentially hanging over him, my main we talked about this a bit on Posse America yesterday, but like my main takeaway from the Iowa caucus is obviously
Starting point is 00:30:26 as nervous and engaged Democrats, we are very well, we are, we are as, obviously as nervous and engaged Democrats, we are well aware of the weaknesses Joe Biden brings into the 2024 election. Uh, the ways in which he is not as strong going into this race as he was going into 2020. He is older. There are a lot of people dissatisfied with the results of his administration. There's a lot of people that don't know what he achieved. There's a lot of people that are just in general frustrated by the direction of the country, by the economy, frustrated by the direction of the country, by the economy, what have you. But at the same time, I think last night was ultimately about Donald Trump's potential weaknesses that are less explored and less clear to voters, that there are polls that have now shown that less engaged
Starting point is 00:31:23 independent voters do not yet even truly accept that Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee. There is a huge percentage of the American people that have told posters, not just independents and Democrats, but Republicans, that a president that a presidential candidate being convicted of a crime makes that makes them unacceptable. And so the open question now is how much weaker will Donald Trump be? And, you know, I would say, I hope, I hope, I hope weak, you know, I'm rooting for weak. Do you think the turnout was a weather thing? Because if it is Trump versus Biden, it will be Trump versus Biden. And Democrats are enthusiastic. And this was any like indicator of like Republican enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Is there just going to be like four people in Wisconsin? I think they were making a big deal out of the weather. But then also it was that this is kind of not normal, but this is a little bit status quo for this area. Right. It wasn't. They've come out and they've come out in weather like this before. So turnout was down more than 50 percent or turnout was down, what, roughly, let's say, 50 percent from what it was in 2016. But that was a more competitive caucus. I think that reading into the turnout is probably a little rosy because it was incredibly cold. All the reporting made it very clear that Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:32:45 was going to win and win by a lot. All that reporting was accurate. But it does mean that it doesn't necessarily show weakness, but it does mean like there wasn't a surprising amount of strength, right? Like there wasn't a sudden surge. There wasn't a great turnout despite the fact that it seemed like a foregone conclusion and it was very cold. So like, is it a reason to be optimistic? No, but is it a reason to not be pessimistic? Sure. How about that?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Okay. And that's it for this episode of What a Weekday Kendra Hallie, Brian the Babadook in the shadows Sarah, thank you for being here and we'll see you sluts on Saturday
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Starting point is 00:35:08 each week so you can. Whispered Ezra Miller from deep within his fortified compound. You're welcome. Their fortified compound. I didn't write the joke. That's my bad, I'm sorry joke let's do it again
Starting point is 00:35:27 we played it perfectly just use that fuck

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