Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - A Look Into The Wonders Of The World (ft. Donnie)
Episode Date: May 4, 2023On today’s episode Billy, Big T and Arian are joined by recurring co-host, The Wonton Don. Donnie gives us a recap on his Mt. Everest trip and introduces Billy to mad honey (which he eats live on th...e pod). Plus, we take a deep dive into the wonders of the world including Machu Picchu, The Great Wall of China, pyramids and many more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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Let's do some Mad Honey.
I didn't, like, really feel the effects for like an hour, an hour and a half.
Is this legal?
You'll be fine.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
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How are you living?
I'm living good, just got back from Nepal.
Happy to be here.
Thanks for having me on.
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Big T is that, of course.
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um good show light up today we're going to have we're going to talk about world
What's this shit called?
Wonders.
Wonders of the world.
That's shit.
My mind just went blank.
Holy shit.
Wonders of the world today.
But we're going to shoot the ship for a little bit.
And I got to start first and foremost, Jamie Fox in the hospital for some reason.
Don't know why.
I don't really care to speculate as to why I think he's been there for like three weeks or something like that with his family said.
And I just want to wish him well, man.
If y'all some praying people, I personally am not.
I'm not, but it can't hurt, right?
So go ahead and do your thing for Jamie, man.
That is the most talented human being to me that has ever walked to Earth.
What he has done in the entertainment industry is just unmatched.
And it's just, I'm a big super fan of Jamie Fox, man.
Got a chance to meet him, cool dude.
Yes, we wish him well.
I don't think anybody has any words for him.
I'll go ahead.
I think Dr. Dre was in a similar situation and thankfully pulled
out, so hoping for the best for Jamie Fox.
Well, we don't really even know what the situation
Jamie Fox is in, right?
From what I read, it was similar to what Dr. Dre would have
with Dr. Dre. What did you read, Billy?
I read he had a stroke of some sort.
Okay. Really? Yeah. I don't know.
His family has not really divulged it,
and so it's a lot of speculation. So who knows, that could be true,
can I be true, but just wishing well dogs.
the other big important news is that the lake is up oh one and so my lake shows doing well
like i said i ain't i really been on the on the basketball watching tip this year i've been
watching a lot of golf but i've always been a lake fan and love to see it man let us see the
warrior fans getting all upset brown brown doing this thing man this is this is a good week
this week has been a good week it just feels like
Everything's breaking that way.
If AD stay healthy, it's hard for them to lose because they play so well together.
Like, AD's playing really well.
Brown, I don't think, I hate to be that guy, but I don't think Brown is, like,
going to be the fact that he was in his previous championship runs.
You can see he's kind of like gas, but he plays kind of like old man boy, like, you know,
post you up type of shit by the whole.
but um i mean he's playing out of his mind for his age and shit but i think i think ad is the kid if he
stay healthy they have they have a nice squad man i like the squad young like if they win this
series they'll play the nuggets who are better than them but lebron in the western conference
finals then if you get past them you've got maybe the celtics i'm not convinced of anybody
in the east i think all the teams in the east are kind of bad
it's going to be interesting they got a shot i'm i'm excited man they got a shot i honestly don't
think this series is going to be as close as it was i just don't uh i think it's going to end up
being four two i think they carry lebron i could see the NBA carrying lebron back to a championship
oh i mean if it's if it's a game seven you know who's getting those calls yeah i i predicted
celtics lakers final at the beginning of the season just because i knew that was the best
rated final that they would
want. Did you place a future
on that? No. Okay. Because
I don't. I'm not as in tune
with the NBA to actually
make those decisions.
Aryan, have you ever met LeBron?
Yeah.
Well.
As a LeBron
Stan, how is like meeting
LeBron?
Out of the Brons stand.
You say you're a big brawn guy.
I'm a LeBron fan. He's one of the greatest best
of ever live. Of course, I'm a fan of what he has done. I'm not a
stand dogs. Like, it's a big difference. I was a Kobe stand. I was a, I was a, I was a
Kobe stand and meeting him was a moment for me. I always said there's three people. If I met
them in real life, I'd be like star struck. Um, well, not star struck on because like, yeah,
I've been around it. So it was kind of, it wouldn't be like crazy. But I would just be like,
yo, I'm a fan dog. Like, and Kobe was one of those cats. Absolutely. I met him. It was
amazing. Who were the other two? The other two is Jay Z and, uh, Jim Carrey.
that's a good list
not a bad list
that if I was like
you know like
star struck like
because I don't
for whatever reason too
I just love Jim Carrey
other than his old
anti-vax bullshit
like I just love his brain
like I love his brain
I always wondered if you just walked around
tried Becca
New York long enough
you would run into Jay Z
because apparently like
him and Beyonce
like go out to their
favorite pizza place there
all the time and stuff
oh do they
is it ruby rosa uh i don't know they definitely move with
like enough security plain clothes well i was just reading a story about donald glover he was he just
ran into j z at a pizza place and that was their first time meeting whoa yeah i see posts all the
time of like big time celebrities that are just right like right around the corner from my
apartment i never leave my apartment so i don't see them but i see posts of them
Yeah, I mean, New York's a very easy place to just sort of blend in with the crowd unless you're like Shaq or Zah.
Yeah, Big T, you're in like Celebrity Central where you live.
Yeah, like there's a bunch of restaurants that they all love and stuff right around where I live.
Did I tell y'all Donald Glover was filming something outside the office like a week ago?
Yeah, I did a spin cycle or spin class with Donald Glover over the summer.
Yeah, I walked out to go home and he was right outside.
I think someone took a video of him on seventh, like running.
Donald Glover, that's the Childish Gambino.
Okay, see, I get him confused with Danny Glover.
Yes.
Different.
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't Danny Glover, this is going to sound so stupid.
Isn't Danny Glover the guy from Angels in the Outfield?
Yes.
Okay.
Great movie.
Absolutely great movie.
I remember him being in it, though.
Wasn't he the manager in it?
Yeah, yeah.
You don't remember him in that movie?
and they go
I thought he would not
that he was a rookie at a year
is he still alive
he I don't think he's in rookie
of the year let's come on
no Danny Glover is definitely in
Angels in the outfield
I'm getting my baseball
Danny Glover is alive he is 76
years old
might not be for much longer
I mean
stop don't say that
oh damn you y'all and kill Danny Clever
hey
how's Jimmy Carter
Jimmy Carter's still doing great.
Is he was?
I don't think so.
We need a ticker.
That nigga kicked a bucket.
Danny Glover was in Rookie of the Year.
Who was he in Rookie?
Hang on, hang on.
Don't,
in Rookie of the Cubs movie.
Yeah.
I might have fucked up.
Hold on, hold on.
Yeah, I don't think that's right.
Which one?
Is that the one about the young.
kid.
Yeah, the kid breaks his arm
and then he throws hard.
Oh, did you ever see
the baseball movie
with Joey Tribiani and the
chimpanzee?
The chimp playing pro
baseball?
Yeah.
That's more believable
than Airbud.
Yeah.
Albert Hall is in
Rookie of the Year
who's an older
black gentleman who looks
fairly similar to Danny Glover.
Damn, that was racist on me,
though.
Danny Glover makes this
spectacular performance in angels on the outfield
though. Ed?
Ed, yeah. I remember that.
I had that on VHS, I remember.
Dude, I bet a chimp could fucking hit dingers.
I feel like it would be a good pinch runner.
No, chimps can't.
Can chimps not run like that?
But like that thing, a chimp could crank a home run.
No way.
Think about how strong chimps are.
They're strong, but they can't swing like that, I don't think.
I also feel like chimp's.
versus gorillas.
I feel like chimps wouldn't do as well as a
gorilla. I feel like gorillas...
Do they have hand-eye coordination?
I don't know, but I just bet if it connected
on one, it could really send it.
I mean, a gorilla would make an incredible
offensive lineman.
Yeah. If you could train it?
I actually don't think so.
Say here, chimpanzees can reach speeds
of 25 miles per hour while running.
Oh, shit. That's...
Yeah. Put some respect to my...
A human can go like four miles per hour.
No, like 12.
No, no.
Oh, 20.
No, they go, like, the top 20, I think, no, he's faster than 21.
He was, like, 26 or something like that.
Was Usain Ball 26?
Yeah.
Yeah, not for it.
I was running, I was running like 1920 when I was in the league.
Okay.
You were?
But a human could only run, oh, yeah, 20 miles per hour for like a short period of time.
Yeah, short bursts.
You're saying both 27.33 miles per hour.
Okay, but that's Yusain Bolt.
Yeah.
So you think so, like, fast guys, like, so, like, dudes that be walking off on people in the league that they'll
like 21 22 okay but I feel like baseball people aren't that or baseball players aren't as fast
nah like the chimp he's stealing he's going to get all these things yeah so pinch runner thank
you actually you're so right yeah I can't believe I was thinking the chimp running on two legs
after hitting it with them no they're running all fours yeah and yeah they'd be great at sliding
maybe like an outfielder like diving catch yeah yeah I mean like a dog would be a good outfield
there. I've never seen
a chimp or an ape
or a gorilla like
catch anything. Have you ever seen that?
Yeah, can't catch nothing. A dog can't catch nothing.
In their mouth. A dog can catch. In their mouth. Yeah, they can
catch. Drop that shit every time.
There actually is a dog in the office today. Yeah.
That shit coming from one plate. It's it knocking out
his teeth. He ain't catching shit.
And Snapchat's he's dog can catch too.
Chimps can catch. I mean, have you ever seen the videos of
chimps hunting monkeys.
No.
Yeah, right here.
Chimps use spears to hunt mammals.
Yeah, dude, chimps are wild.
Oh, chimps go to war.
Bro, there's, there's been like a, there was like a 15 year war in the 70s between two
chimp groups.
Yeah, you were telling me about that.
Yeah.
It's like insane.
Is that what that new Netflix thing is about?
A chimp empire or like ape empire?
I think so.
There was just a newly recorded instance of chimps in the wild attacking a group of
gorillas and killing their young, which is insane.
And you were the one who told me about the chimp dog war or the monkey dog war going on
in India.
Yeah.
And it started when like a dog.
Yeah, killed a baby monkey.
So the monkeys retaliated and killed like 50 baby dogs.
Yeah, they just picked up all the puppies, ran up trees and dropped them.
Yeah.
It was like 50 dogs in one day.
50 puppies
and yeah
the dogs were not too happy about that
I think that war might still be raging
I think it hasn't stopped
yeah humans were like
we tried to break them up but then the monkeys
just attacked us so we're so we're
like all right we're just going to
we're going to stay out of us
remain neutral
yeah the people
aren't Switzerland in the dog monkey war
that's something you don't want to get wrapped up
do we know what started
It was the
The monkeys
No no
The dogs killed a baby monkey
So they officially
Started it
But then
But then the monkeys took it to them
It's how most wars
It's how most wars
It killed one of ours
We gotta get one of yours
Yeah
But they was
But the dogs got one of theirs
And then the monkeys retaliated
By killing like 50 of
Of theirs
Levels
There's levels to this op shit
You know
Yeah
I just found
a video why chimps don't play
baseball. Humans are much better than
throwing at any other animals. Even our
closing living relatives, chimpanzees
can't match our pitching performs.
Oh my God, I'm watching a chimp throw a baseball
and it is hilarious.
Oh my God.
So they can't do it.
I need to send this to the macrodosing group.
Yeah, they can't pitch and they're
they can catch though.
From what I'm watching,
they don't have the biomechanics
to throw a pitch, but they can catch.
This is actually so interesting.
Yeah, why chimps don't play baseball.
There's just a YouTube video about it.
There's a random YouTube video.
Somebody has thought about this in depth.
The Christian Science Monitor wrote an entire article on why gorillas can't throw fastballs.
I'm so glad that science is like concentrating on these questions.
Yes.
Because I want the answers.
I feel like when we could teach.
him though. Because I'm looking at how they throw. He just like just he tosses it over his head
like on some goofy shit. But if you if you like letting know somehow train him to, that's the
one thing, you know, started to talk about golf again, really. But when you talk about, when
you talk about your golf swing, they always, they always say like if you throw something,
you got to lead with your elbow. So like even in these mechanics, if you look in like what,
what we naturally do is we lead with our elbow and the chimp just kind of throws it over his head.
So you want to get that elbow, like you're skipping a rock.
Don't create more leverage with the power.
She could be taught.
How throwing is human?
I don't think there's no, this is no benefits for chimps to learn sports.
Yeah.
There was back in like the 60s or something like that,
there was a woman who lived with a dolphin for like two years because she was trying to teach
it English.
It was actually NASA funded research.
They were like, we're just going to like have this dolphin live with a human for years.
And like maybe it will just learn how to speak English.
But.
How did it go?
Yeah, it did not work.
I think they may have.
I think they ended up just having sex.
Yeah.
Dude, so I also just Googled how much a gorilla could bench.
I think if anything, we should train a gorilla for strong man.
I think that would be the best use.
of like training an animal to do something because apparently like a silverback gorilla can like maybe bench 4,000 pounds but that's just like a buy an estimate on what they've been seen moving with a push what the fuck yeah so think about that's like that's like that's like Superman gorilla that's like king Kong shit bro 4,000 pounds with just like on your back I don't I don't think so like a bench prep.
Well, I'm thinking if they can bench press 4,000 pounds, think about how much they can deadlift.
But I don't think they, but where did you get this from?
I would like to explore that.
Wild Guerrillas safaris.com.
They may be biased.
No, I mean, yeah, it says they have the one fully grown silverback gorilla is stronger than 20 adult humans.
Yeah.
Fucking hell.
Like they like rip.
Can we do some like.
like gene splicing of the gorilla genome and humans and just create a super human.
Stalin had a whole like, yeah, no, Stalin during the Soviet Union tried to interbreed apes and humans.
Literally like there's a woman who they try to use orangutan sperm to get pregnant.
Like literally look it up. I'll find the study.
Stalin's because you want to create super soldiers.
Did they use the turkey baster method?
Or did they probably?
Yeah.
I would hope.
Yeah.
Scientific ethics in Stalin's ape man super warriors.
Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin wanted to rebuild the Red Army in the mid-1920s.
Yeah.
It's wild.
Like the reason why.
So like, all right.
So I see I see that this says 4,000 pounds.
But like when you get into the mechanics of it, like part of benching is learning how.
to like leverage your weight, right?
And gorillas have way longer arms than we do.
So they would have to push that shit for a way longer amount of time than we would have
to.
And so 4,000 pounds just seems like a stretch to me.
There's no concrete evidence because we've never put them on a bench.
And plus, like when you're on your back like that, you're not able to use all of your
strength, like all of their, you know, it would just be upper body.
And so like they're kind of just doing a rough guesstimation.
and I don't think this is true
I doubt this
Yeah
The long arm things we do
Underestimate
I mean
But how cool would it be if we train it
Like Haththor
The big strongman
The thing is all these bench records
Are all like
With all these straps and contraptions
Like the compression sleeves and stuff
See look
Benchpress.comnet
Says that
They arrive at around 1800
pounds.
They said, how do we arrive there?
They said, the main reason is that there are recorded experiments which compare to
the strength of gorillas to that of an average human.
And most data, gorillas are typically four to ten times stronger than humans.
When looking at upper body strength, they're typically six times stronger than humans.
Going back to our previous point to intro, if a human can bench press their own body weight,
a gorilla would be able to theoretically binge press six times their own body weight.
A gorilla weighs 300 pounds.
That takes the number up to 1,800.
and gorillas can like I think like the massive grill is like around five to six hundred pounds right
yeah yeah that makes that makes more sense like I don't know but that makes more sense
4,000 that's a lot of fucking weight though but that's if you get them on a strength program
you know what I'm saying like we've seen the only they're animals no but this is I don't think
that's the I don't think that would correlate the same though like guerrillas like we have to
the like we we have to we have to relearn our anatomy which is natural to us they're just
like that they they they poke up like that and so like me i think maybe you can increase it to a
certain amount percentage but like for the most part they just like that like babies come out
walking the shit they're just like baby dears maybe yeah baby deers come out walking fam
like if our babies just came out walking it would save us a lot of time and stress but they don't
We got to raise these motherfuckers from the seat up.
Do you actually think, though, like, if a baby human came out walking, that that would be less stressful?
I feel like they'd be more stressful because then they have the ability to go wherever they want.
I feel like, again, babies aren't really my thing.
But I feel like part of the thing about babies is that you can kind of put them down.
And they're just going to stay there for a little bit.
Like, until you move them physically?
well that's why that's why humans like one of the biggest difference between humans and monkeys is we have such wider hips to like carry babies on their hip like women do yeah well women also have wider hips to like have the baby right but that was also a thing yeah i mean i think because monkey babies just cling on like with their little arms yeah right but like if if you have like a three week old baby or something it's not gonna go anywhere
we were also better able to protect the helpless baby human yeah what do you mean why because we
had like tools and oh oh oh oh I thought you meant like physically with our bodies yeah
apparently when humans evolved to walk upright like that's what caused all the complications
with childbirth like back in the day didn't like like one and 10 woman die from giving
birth yeah or even like higher and it's just because like
naturally it's a lot easier to have a kid when you're like walking on all fours somehow
but when we when we started to walk upright like maybe the vagina opening got smaller I don't know
I don't know the science behind it but I do know that it became a lot harder to have kids
once humans started walking upright I always think about that too why are women having babies
laying down why am why aren't they not like standing up and gravity helps I actually read
I saw crazy viral video.
Y'all are getting soft.
That's why.
Apparently, it's like the totally wrong way to have a child.
Yeah.
Well, some people have their child
wouldn't just slip out.
Have their child underwater.
Yeah.
And the baby is born naturally knowing how to swim to the surface.
Yeah.
It kind of just floats.
There's a bunch of videos.
Yeah.
I've seen a bunch of videos.
Have you seen the videos of them like people just dropping their child in the water
and then they like clap at them to come back up?
Yeah.
And the baby just like floats.
back up. That's why I don't understand
when people don't know how to
swim. Like if you just trust your
instincts, you'll be able to swim. No, because
babies' heads are so big that they float
so it's easy for them to just float
like that because their whole body
composition is different. That's why
did I say this on this podcast that babies automatically
know how to swim? I think I did and everyone's like, no
but it's because their heads float. Nobody said no, bro. That is a very
well-known fact. I think that I said that
at like a different gathering
of the minds
and they don't know
what the fuck's
go what the fuck's
they don't know
how to swim
they know to hold
their breath
and float a certain way
to keep their face
up they go to the service
and then they know how to
they know how to put
their body on the back
to where they float
and they can breathe
they'll just like buoys
they kind of are born
like with like a
life ring around their necks
a little bit
well just kind of float
a floaty
yeah
I saw this TikTok
of this couple that had a pull-it bar
and they would just make their baby hang on it
while it was growing
and then it was like
the baby was like 12 a year old finally
and it just could hang
it was the craziest thing ever
that's gonna be your kids
I was gonna say why do I know you're gonna do that
I was like this is a great experiment
I'm gonna follow up on this
that's interesting do you want to have kids
Billy I mean
I don't know yeah
one day
no wrong answer man I'm just
I don't know
You're a breeder
Shave, you're killing the environment
I feel like Billy wants like a small army
Maybe
I feel like in this day and age
It's too tough to have
A lot of kids
Just like I don't know
Unless you live like in the middle of nowhere
Yeah or you're very rich
Yeah
Sure
Kids are gross
yeah like i just anti kids i always felt bad for kids for kids growing up who had like five brothers
and none of them like had enough clothes and things like that where it's like if you guys just
had two kids you would all have plenty of clothes yeah yeah but that plenty of money stop fucking
that might but like those kids might be better off by those experiences right become successful
later in life yeah maybe
If they, like, yeah, if they learn to outcompete the rest of their siblings.
Yeah.
For resources?
Yeah, they have that grind set.
Yes.
And they just, I mean, if you grow up with five brothers, you're beating the hell out of each other every day.
Mm-hmm.
So I think, yeah, if you grow up with five brothers, one or two of those brothers are going to come out really well.
And the rest, not so much.
I mean, the mid-brothers still doing okay.
Let's hope.
There's going to be one.
Who are you?
I have a group of
brothers of five that I'm thinking of
I have a group that I'm thinking of
Like the mid brothers are going to be okay
Like they're not doing crazy well
But they're still providing a living for themselves
Then there's a one brother who's going to have to go
Through some demons
And he's going to have to go to rehab
Yeah he'll end up good on the other end
Okay
But he has a couple more steps of growth
He was the neglected one or
Yeah or the one that never had any responsibility
the baby
true
I would hate to have
no siblings though
is anyone
an only child
is anyone here
an only child
no
I think there's
some of the most
I'm not gonna say
no but I'd be down with it
really
big too
I can see
me being down with it
I don't
I don't really care
one way or the other
like my sister's great
but you could do
about her
no
like if she didn't exist
I am I am more happy
that she does exist
but if if she didn't I would be just fine yeah okay I feel like you like as a child could
entertain yourself a lot yeah yeah like an only child does yeah I still entertain myself
all day I could I could go days without talking to anybody yeah that's nuts days of playing
only with yourself oh yeah I could just play video games watch I see what you were going for
yeah yeah um i could go yeah days weeks without talking to anybody that's that's crazy i'd go
nuts you should do one of those uh silent retreats actually like that because yeah i i do
have a friend who signed up for like a 10 day silent retreat with uh with 10 other people
there's some sort of spiritual thing where you just you go and you can't talk for 10 days but
you still like eat as a group and meditate as a group that's weird i would just rather
people want to be by myself yeah yeah i don't that'd be so awkward thrive in that environment
yeah that's weird i would not like that the dinner the dinner you're just sitting there eating
and everybody's kind of looking at so yeah yeah i could there's got to be it's got to be laughing
and shit it has to be like nobody's that mature is there anyone who like actually like is
fine with lack of stimulation
like I've never met
maybe we're in the wrong work environment
because everyone will work with what do you mean what do you mean what do you
mean lack of so what kind of stimulation like
I always feel like I have to be doing something stimulating
like even though big T's like I like being alone he's definitely
you know on his computer on his phone reading sports scores
talking about sports like doing his interests
right am I am I wrong big T
yeah like I said entertain myself like I'm doing something
yeah I'm not just sitting somewhere yeah is there
meditating who's like you know like they can just stare straight ahead like i i need constant simulation
yeah no i can't be alone with my thoughts like i need to be like doing something yeah i'm the same
way but i would like to learn how to meditate like even if it was just for 20 minutes a day yeah that's
really hard because i i do know people they're like yeah i always meditate for like 10 to 30 minutes a day
i would like to at least try doing that but no as of now the closest i've read like a lot of like
studies on that shit. And apparently it does. There's like real literature on the, it could,
it could lower anxiety, depression levels, like all kind of stuff mentally. People have even
meditated themselves into like hallucination to like a form of hallucination to like same same kind
of trip as like psychoactive drugs. But that shit boring, bro. I'm beyond. I'm trying. That shit
is just fucking boring. I just sitting there. And it's like, am I doing it right?
You know, like, am I doing, am I doing this right?
I just sit here and just think, and then I can't just stop thinking.
Breathing.
It's shit goes.
Yeah, because, like, when you meditate, you're supposed to not be thinking of anything.
So it's like, when an idea comes to your head, you're supposed to let it go.
Like passing cars.
Like, you're watching traffic.
Every thought's a car.
Let it pass through.
She's like, what the fuck?
I want to think about that.
Yeah.
Like, that was a cool thought.
You know what fucks me up about the breathing and see it just happened.
God damn it.
When I think, I was going to fuck everybody up that's listening to this now, too.
When I'm worried about breathing with, like, meditation, like, you have to think about breathing, right?
You have to slow it down.
But when I think about breathing, it's no longer automatic.
And so then it's like, oh, shit, I got to, I got to breathe.
Like, I have to, because if I don't breathe, I just stop breathing.
So, like, now I'm thinking, right now I'm thinking about breathing.
So I'm breathing.
It's not, it's, it's, I'm manually breathing right now, which is frustrating as fuck.
Every down and then that thought, it just reminds me.
I got to make myself breathe.
Are you making yourself breathing?
I forgot.
What you said I do exactly.
I was like,
into the nose out through the mouth.
The thing like that that happens to me is,
and now it's happening right now,
is seeing my nose.
Like when I out of the corner of my eye,
I see my nose and then I can't unsee it for hours.
I hate that.
I also can't breathe through my nose that well.
Yeah.
One time I broke my nose and then you could see it really well
because it was like pointed to the side.
So, yeah, I could just, I could tell it was broken.
So I was like, you had both of those things.
You had to, you had to see your nose and think about breathing.
That's, yeah.
That's too bad, but anybody ever any quirks like that?
Like when, like when you look in the sky and you see those squiggly lines that kind of just like move.
And if you look at them, they move away.
Yes.
I hate that shit.
I can't stand that shit.
I think those are white dots.
You got to follow them.
I don't know what?
I think those are the floaters are
Wait, wait, let me just
Okay. Floaters
In eye
Or it's when you look at the blue sky
You know how when you look at the blue sky
Kind of like
Looks a little weird
You know what I'm saying?
Like it looks like
Almost fuzzy in a way
Mm-hmm
Wait, floaters and I
What are they?
When you look at the blue sky, it's fuzzy?
Um
like when you look at the pure blue sky it makes you like can see your white blood cells or something it's something like that bits of cell debris that drift around in the fluid fills the back of your eyes so that's what eye flutters are clumps of clear jelly like substance so those are dead cells but they can get rid of that shit yeah i mean when you have like way too many um staring at sky fuzzy
What is that?
I saw a fact I need to figure out.
What are the moving dots I see when I look at a clear blue sky?
Okay, yeah.
So this is what I was talking about.
The moving dots you see when staring at the sky are created by your own white blood cells flowing through your eyes.
Blood flows to your eyes through blood vessels that pass over the retina, the part of your eye that acts as a receptor for all light.
Red blood cells make up more than 90% of your blood absorb blue light.
White blood cells let blue light through to your retina, which sends a signal of increased brightness to the brain.
So those moving dots
You see when you look at the blue sky
Are your white blood cells
The floaters are dead cells
I did not know that
That's like one of those crazy facts
That just like makes me stare at the blue sky
Be like oh shit look at all those white blood cells
So the squiggly lines are dead cells
Yeah
Okay
Well the more you know
That's like one of those awesome facts
Speaking of weird breathing
Um, when I was in Nepal and we got up to an altitude of like 15,000 feet, I would be breathing
normally, but there's not a lot of oxygen in the air. So when, so when I was trying to go to bed,
you'd just be like breathing. And then all of a sudden you'd have to catch your breath because
whoa. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, like as I was falling asleep, I would wake myself up just
gasping for air because like, like in a normal breath, you weren't getting the same.
same amount of oxygen so it's kind of like scared sleep apnea almost do uh do you think yes
i was to say i wanted to get it so because you um you you recently visited nepal and you
wanted to kind of like talk about your your extravaganza over there man uh go to beans what
how was it it was incredible we got um 10 videos coming out about my adventures there um
But, yeah, we hiked all the way up to Everest Base Camp, which is 17,500 feet.
And, yeah, the first few days on that hike, you're, like, struggling to breathe.
But then your body slowly adapts and generates more red blood cells.
Whoa.
So, like, as time went on, it got easier and easier.
But you also, like, you don't just hike directly up there because then your body couldn't adapt in time.
So some days we would hike somewhere and then like hike up a thousand feet and hike back down because that would help your body adapt.
And that's actually what you have to do when you're climbing Mount Everest too.
You don't just climb the mountain.
You first you climb like a quarter of the way up and then you climb back down and then you climb halfway up and then you climb back down.
And then like you'll climb three, three quarters of the way up and climb back down.
So even after you reach the base camp, it can take people like 40 days to reach the summit because you're just, you're constantly going up and down to get used to the altitude.
That's one of the most interesting things that I did not know about going up to Everest is that it's not just one straight march up.
It's up and down, up and down.
Yeah.
Which is wild.
What would happen if you just went straight up?
You pass out?
Yeah, most people would.
are people who have done it. I mean, it's crazy. There are people who've climbed Mount Everest
without using any oxygen. And after 8,000 meters, you're technically in the death zone where,
like, humans shouldn't be able to survive. But like some people can just push through it. I don't
know, and just survive on like little to no oxygen. It's wild. Like, I met this Taiwanese girl.
she was like a tiny girl
and she had already climbed K2
without using any oxygen
and now she was trying to climb Mount Everest
about using oxygen.
Well isn't that part of it
is that she needs less oxygen?
Isn't it harder for bigger people
at higher altitudes?
Yeah, come to think of it
the two people I met on the trip
who had climbed tall mountains
without using any supplemental oxygen
were both smaller girls.
Yeah.
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Let's look up that stat about bigger bodies and altitude.
Yes.
Yeah, because y'all saying fat people can't climb mountains
I don't think it's necessarily fat people
I think it's like tall people too
Body composition
Arian could climb a mountain for sure
Would you ever want to
I would not want to
I want to climb Mount Kilimanjaro
It seems not as tough
Because like climbing Mount Everest can take like
Two months Mount Kilmajaro
It only takes a week
Chris Lange's done that
I respect nature
so much, I don't fuck with it.
I don't expect nature too much, man.
Have you ever gone on a hike?
My ex-girl, she took me to this hike.
It was actually beautiful, actually.
But it's like, it's very, you know, modern.
It wasn't like, we didn't go off the trail.
I was like, listen, bro, do not take me off the trail.
I'm not adventurous.
And so we just went down this little pathway.
boom there's a little waterfall we sat there and now we had a couple bottles of wine it was nice
it was really beautiful but other than that now i kind of try to stay out of nature man i respect it
too much i love hiking so much yeah i like i would have thought growing up in new mexico like
you were exposed to a lot of nature uh no i'm from the inner city man we i kind of just i mean
albuquerque oh yeah okay there are some like desert stuff but like i was never into it like
yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of like like
snakes and shit like that.
And that's what I do not fuck with snakes, dog.
Like, you have, it's one of them things.
It's like a phobia where it's like I just get shivers thinking about the shit.
Like I saw a snake at my golf course the other day.
And I was just driving and I saw like a little wiggly thing in the middle of the thing.
And I stopped me in my tracks.
I froze, dog.
And I just, I don't fucking care.
Like a diamond bag?
I don't know, bro.
It was, I made the biggest circle around that motherfucker.
And I'm like, why are y'all?
talking to it and stuff like bro what are you doing here bro like get your ass out of here i hate i cannot
do snakes though oh my god i i used to love catching snakes uh in one time i ran to a diamond back
radler in a wood pile in maine in maine north maine and i was like like my whole life i was like
all the animals are boring in the northeast there's no like venomous snakes there's like
salamander's like there's enough but like you know down south has all the
wide variety of snakes lizards and i found a diamond rack radler in a wood pile and i was like
oh my god this is so cool but i was at my uh my older cousin's house who's like my mom's cousin
who's like kind of like a grandma and uh she always you know i went told her it was like there's a
diamond back in the wood pile and she's like no way there can't be and it was the coolest find
ever found because it was like no one would ever expect a diamond back to be that far north yeah
And I was like seven, and thank God I was obsessed with snakes, so I knew it was venomous and didn't try to catch it.
Yeah, the only snakes I started growing up were garter.
Yeah, garter snakes, which you can play with.
They're not going to bite you.
Well, they can, but they just have zero venom.
It's like, oh, it's fucking around with a little garter snake.
And, fuck, you know, hell no.
I mean, what do you hate more?
Snakes or spiders?
Snakes.
Spiders don't bother me.
Like, I don't like them, but it's just like, when I see one, I'm not like, ah, spider.
I'm a big fan of spiders.
I avoid them.
I don't really fuck with them.
But snakes, dog?
You want to my most useless fucking thing on the earth?
No, I mean.
Besides cockroaches.
Snakes.
I don't care.
I don't care what they do.
I don't care.
How good they are for the ego system?
Not me.
No, you know how they benefit you?
Spiders and snakes?
Spiders kill mosquitoes and bugs in your house, which I'm all for.
Just hang out, kill mosquitoes for me.
you totally can that's how you pay they ain't on my job at my they ain't on my job at my house
and a whole bunch of fucking bugs yeah especially in the summertime they need to hurry up
with the shit snakes kill rodents so i mean that's a win win yeah uh man snakes for the reason
we ain't walking around naked right now yeah i mean i know the northeast has black widow spiders
which are pretty damn poisonous.
Yeah.
I've seen a couple of those.
When I was in Botswana, Africa,
my friend walked over a black mamba.
Oh, shit.
And then like some people who were at the campsite we were at,
jumped out of the woodwork and just beat the thing to death.
But those are one of the most poisonous snakes in the world.
Oh, I mean, where were you?
You probably, I think after you get hit by a black mamba,
but you have like 15 minutes.
Yeah, he was very close to death.
He was just walking out of the bathroom and like walked right over one.
I used to watch.
Oh, it's seven to 15 hours.
Okay.
So you'd be good.
Cause collapse in 45 minutes.
I know, uh, Mike Posner.
Do you guys know him?
Yeah, he got bit by Rattler.
Yeah, when he was trying to walk across the United States.
Yeah.
And then he ended up like, he went to the hospital for maybe a week and then completed
the walk. I think he was a little fucked up by it after. I think he was in a remote area.
Yeah, he was, I think, just on a highway in Colorado. It was just on the side of the highway
and bit him. Was he doing a barefoot? Do I remember that correctly? I don't know. I mean,
he's been doing a lot of crazy stuff. He also climbed Mount Everest. Yeah. He took that pill
in Abiza and just went to living life. Yep. But seriously, Mike Posner.
Barefoot? Was he barefoot? Why do I think he was barefoot?
Nah, bro.
Because how did you get bit through boots?
I mean, their fangs are pretty long.
Yeah.
They don't really be, from my understanding about snakes,
they don't really be active like that. Like, don't be hunting.
They just, like, feel attacked and then they spring.
If you step on one is the big one.
Like, if you back onto the corner, that's when the rattle comes out.
And they won't strike unless you're, like,
like trying to eat it or you step on one or noted it yeah they're they're not like they're not
actively trying to go out and attack humans no i mean hiking i just love hiking from the
type of work we do if i'm on the weekends just like in the woods away from my phone like on
trail maps with my dog
like doing like a four mile hike
and then there's hopefully like a body of water
involved that you can jump in
like a like a mountain stream
or like a nice waterfall
that's just a one
that's a great day
I swam in a waterfall
in Nepal was fucking sick
dude that must be sick you know you I was gonna say
you was in the middle of telling us about
the rest of your Nepal trip
Oh, yeah. Well, seeing I'm on macro dosing, I think it's only right to talk about my experience with
Mad Honey. Have you guys ever heard of it? Just from you.
So Joe Rogan's talked about it a few times. One of his guests actually brought it on his show
and they tried it. And now he just has a jar of it in his podcast studio. So he'll like randomly
hand it out to people who are on the pod. Yeah, I had a chance to try that in Nepal. So it's
type of honey that's harvested from hives that are like 4,000 meters up and like up there there's
a type of rhododendrum flower that has some sort of psychoactive nectar that the bees then bring
into the hive and make honey out of. It's called like garana toxin or whatever. So I had heard
it called hallucinogenic honey. I heard it called psychedelic honey and I was like, this shit sounds
awesome I got to try it um so I found a dude in catmandu who had it uh this was like my first day
in the country and I tried some now he said to do just one teaspoon and uh mom I apologize
if you're listening to this I wasn't feeling anything off the one teaspoon so I took a couple
more and yeah that shit hit me hard I was um I think um this is all going to be
documented in a video I dropped
next week. But at first
it felt like I was just being
like bathed and icy hot. Like you
have this kind of like cold, hot sensation
just rushing through your body
and like this really
tingly sensation like when your
legs go to sleep.
And at first I was like, oh,
this feels cool. Like this is pretty sweet.
But then I started
to violently puke for like
three hours.
Wow.
and you do not hallucinate at all.
I was like, this is going to be like shrooms or whatever.
It was not like shrooms.
I don't know what I would compare it to.
Yeah, I was going to ask, like, is there any comparable?
It sounds like poison.
I mean, that's what it is.
But I guess like most drugs are like a form of poison.
Do you have any on you?
What's it called again?
It's called Nepali's Mad Honey.
Mad Honey.
And like, they do it there.
some people say it's an aphrodisiac
some people say
it's kind of like weed
like you can take it for aches and pains
I did bring some back to the U.S.
and I checked it is legal to transport back here
so
Vibs might do an episode of lowering the bar of it
if you guys want to try it
but definitely only do one teaspoon
I'm like I kind of want to try it right now
because the thing is
Do you want me to grab it?
Fuck.
You have some?
Yes.
Let's have Billy on Mad Honey the episode.
Yeah, yeah.
I think as long as you just do one T-score.
I'm going to do a little less.
I'm going to do half a teaspoon.
Maybe even a quarter of a teaspoon.
Do you want me to grab it?
No, you know what?
Yeah, I think half a teaspoon.
I would like see you one.
It's not like fatal or anything, right?
It would be straight.
I don't know.
No, I mean, half a teaspoon, you'd be fine.
It doesn't make you see shit.
No.
Like, I think it's bad for gains.
You ain't trying to gain.
You ain't trying to gain.
I've been on my, I'm going hard 28 for Memorial Day.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
It'll just be like a little bit of sugar.
Yeah.
Just some sugar.
Should I just put in some tea?
Yeah.
You put it in tea?
Yeah.
If you want to put it in some tea.
Okay.
All right.
Take that shit to the head, dog.
Do we have a teaspoon?
I can go get one.
Okay.
No, I'm down for it.
All right.
Small break.
We come back.
Billy will be on mad honey.
Let's do some mad honey.
Okay.
I didn't like really feel the effects for like an hour, an hour and a half.
Is this legal?
You'll be fine.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Because like just for YouTube purposes.
Yes.
Yeah.
We come back.
Billy will be on crack.
Okay.
All right, we're back
We're back and we got the goodies
We got the goodies, Donnie, you got the shit
All right, so this is Mad Honey
And Billy about to take
A whole teaspoon
No, I'm going to take a little bit
You're going nibble it, bro
You don't make a stop the pile
You're going to gas the whole shit up
Take the whole shit
Billy said he's trying to play
Basketball afterwards
Yeah, I have a basketball game
how long does it last um i mean for me it lasted a while but um i i took like three heaping
teaspoons you're taking like a half yeah of a teaspoon so does it take you'll be fine does it taste
like honey yeah except it like makes you cough kind of oh it's got it's got like a spice to it yes
you'll just have some like weird tingling sensations
what does it taste like
spicy honey
I don't know
the cool thing is if you watch the videos
of how they harvest this
like it's people
climbing up these gigantic cliffs
tied to a rope
because you can only harvest this from the hives
that are like way up on the top of cliffs
I think this was like
in the jungle book movie
wasn't there?
Oh yeah
when
because the bear
wanted to get high
so he was like
Mowgli I need your help
going up to get the
to get the mad stuff
huh
okay well
we're just going to forget
it happened
and try not to panic
if anything happens
yeah there was one person
who took
don't tell me this now
well no no
he took he took a ton
don't tell me it's fucking
no no no
there was one person sent me
a
And he was like, when we were in Nepal, my friend had like a bunch of that stuff.
And he couldn't like walk for five days.
What the fuck?
No, but he took like he took like a ton.
Oh shit.
No.
He killed Billy.
Oh, fuck.
You took a.
You'll be fine, man.
Yeah, yeah.
It'll be fine probably.
Like the, the, he took like a ton.
You, you took a very modest amount.
And you know, I think, well, you don't even know.
You know, something crazy.
Have you don't, yeah.
You don't need both hands.
You just need one.
Yeah.
You'll be fine.
But, um, you know, I don't even know.
Look up the photos of people harvesting it.
It's wild.
Yeah.
It's like they risk their lives to do that shit, huh?
Yeah.
Is it like similar to taking shrooms?
No, that's what I was, I was kind of pissed
because everyone's like hallucinogenic honey.
I thought it was going to be like shrooms.
It was not like shrooms at all.
Oh, shit.
Why do I already feel something?
You don't feel anything.
That's called placebo, my mother.
Yeah.
exactly that's called me tweaking out you'll be good you'll be good let's see how long the mad honey
if for me i didn't really start feeling it until after an hour and a half or something and then
it came on strong but for you it's it's not going to come on strong i was with one other person who
took two and he was fine he was feeling it but he was fine
it could kick in
from anywhere to a half an hour
to four hours
I don't forget you did
yeah you're just going to feel weird
later
you're going to be going up for a layup
in the basketball game and then your hand's just going to go limp
and you just never come down
no
you only
you only need one hand though
let's not fuck with me while I took
the Himalayan honey
Oh, you will be fucked with
Oh, you will be fucked with.
I mean, I'm the wrong person
to do drugs around.
Grayano toxin is what it's called.
What if I just start puking?
You won't.
You took a very small amount.
You're on Big Cat's chair,
so you make everybody happy.
Yeah, no, that would get me fucking...
Yeah.
One of the side effects is temporary paralysis.
No, dude.
I promise you you took a very small amount you'll be fine
yeah if Donnie wasn't paralyzed you won't be
he probably took like half a teaspoon or something like that
he'll be good I just don't know why they call it hallucinogenic
because it's it's not hallucinogenic
they say you have to take a lot Billy's mom if you're watching this
he took a very safe amount a very safe amount
let's let's get let's talk about let's talk did you see the Yeti up there
Um, no, I didn't, but I was walking by this one place that said they had a Yeti skull.
Yeah.
Preserved.
Now, do you know what one theory about the Yeti is?
Is that when you're at really high altitudes, you can start to hallucinate.
Yeah.
Like, you can just start to see shit.
You don't really know what is going on.
No, not what you're taking the honey.
Just from like being so high up.
So they think the myth of the Yeti came from just like Sherpa's up there dealing with,
the altitude who are like lost in the snow aren't getting enough oxygen and then just like
think they're seeing some giant abominable snowman yeah that's kind of lit i mean big t's looking
pretty yeah like if i saw our big tea at a very high altitude and i wasn't breathing well i might
you know i could i would maybe assume you were some sort of yetty if you just i don't appreciate that
If you just took Mad Honey and you, like, look to your left and be like, oh, shit, is that a Yeti?
Yeah.
That might work.
Big Yettee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, it's crazy, though, how, like, you've got the Yety myth in Nepal.
You've got the Bigfoot myth.
Yeah.
Like all over.
You've got Sasquatch.
You've got, like, all different.
The Yowie in Australia.
Then there's one in Siberia, too.
Yeah, almost all cultures have some myth of it.
Which you think maybe that comes from like, you know, 10,000 years ago when they were still remnants of the other...
Gigantopithecus.
Species of humans, too.
Yeah, yeah.
Gigantopithcus was like basically the Yeti that lived in China and in the Himalayan regions.
That's what they think the Yeti myth is based off of it.
Yeah, and it's just been passed down through generations and generations.
Yeah.
So what other kind of thing did you get into while you was over there, man?
Because I know, like, what kind of food was there?
That's always interesting to see the different kind of cuisines in different places,
aside from the mad honey.
Yeah.
So the most popular thing I ate out there were momos, which are just Nepalese dumplings.
And they're very good.
That's exactly.
When you said momos, I was thinking,
like a small ball like thing it's exactly it's a small ball boom it sounds like it sounds like a
mom i don't even i've never heard of that but it sounds like i want a momo dude they're so good um a lot
of times they're fried and then tossed in this chili sauce um i i might like them more than johnny's
dumplings um yeah we also ate some yak there's a lot of yaks up there yaks are chill um and they use
they use yaks, humans, and donkeys to, like, transport all of the stuff up the mountains.
And it is insane.
Like, you'll see people carrying maybe, like, 22 by fours stacked and then, like, wrapped in this bandage that they, like, tied to the sticks.
And then they tie around their head.
And they'll just walk it up at hill for six hours.
Like, the Sherpas there are some of the most.
athletic people I've seen in my life.
Like, we all had these huge bags, and then we had a day bag, and the Sherpas would carry
everyone's huge bag to where you needed to go.
They would just put these three gigantic duffel bags on their back, attach those to a rope
on their head, and walk up a steep mountain.
I'm looking at pictures of them right now.
I would like to see like the, because they got mad luggage on their back, yo.
Like, I would like to see the long effects of carrying that much shit on your back up the hill.
I know.
I almost feel like they've just evolved to be able to handle it.
Or maybe if they start doing it at such a young age, they can, like, can handle it.
But, like, if any of us tried doing that, we would be fucked.
Like, our backs would be broken after a few hours.
I mean, the yaks up there.
they can handle the high altitude yeah i would assume so um i'm gonna be honest i totally tapped
out i've been googling mad honey side effects all right no i i don't i don't want this to
ruin the whole podcast it's not it's not you took a super small amount like when i walk being a tweak
when i walked into the place he like before i even bought the honey he was like hey do you want a sample
of it and he like handed me some like uh and even
larger amount than you just took and
I was fine. I didn't know. Okay. Yeah.
DeBap. I didn't even feel anything. What's that thing where
what's the thing where like
I forget what it's called. There's a name for it, but it's where women
they think that they're pregnant and they start to
think, they start to feel like they're pregnant and the body
actually starts showing signs of them
being pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. What is it
called? I saw that on Glee. Yeah.
Phantom pregnancy.
I would be honest, most of my early,
pregnancy education came from the show glee
that's concerning
are you a glee
yeah it was a glee
it's called a it's called
pseudosaisis
uh pseudocasis is
it's a false pregnancy when a person believes
they're pregnant but they're not
and yeah it's also called phantom pregnancy
so but you start to like your body starts
showing like symptoms like your breasts start growing
you miss your period shit like that
that's fucking bananas so you
might have some honey saisis.
Yeah.
That seems, it seems about right.
Yeah, so along the hike, we walked by the highest Irish pub in the world.
That looks sick.
Had to go in.
No, you went in.
Yes, of course.
I had to go in, but when I was walking in, there was like 30 donkeys out front,
and each of the donkeys had two kegs strapped to their backs.
So that's, like, how the pub gets all its beer, just by.
by donkeys carrying up supplies.
Running a hooch.
Because they have no roads throughout this whole trek.
So like all the supplies, everything you see up at the base camp
where they just have these huge tents and coffee machines.
Like base camp felt like you're in a small town of sorts,
but you're just like in the middle of the mountains.
All the supplies for that are all carried up by either yaks, donkeys, or humans.
It's wild.
was the trek what was the topography like i mean the mountains are so beautiful um the trek itself
wasn't that hard you are walking for maybe six hours a day but it's not like a lot of the train
isn't directly up or anything there's a lot of flat stuff too it's just uh dealing with the altitude
so it's important to take it slow and not just rush up to camp because we did have a few people
in our group that um had to be had to be like medevaced back to catmandu whoa you do uh you're looking
amazing you dropped a lot of weight thank you yeah you're looking in shape um yeah we handled it pretty well
i i wanted to keep on going up the mountain if not climb mount everest i didn't have like another
month to spare but some people were climbing up uh uh mount lobuche which is 16 000 200 feet and i wanted to
to do that but it would have cost like another 6,000 per person well mountaineering is not cheap and um i had
already used up my entire budget so i couldn't swing it but i was very tempted to to try i we like
used up our budget so once we got to base camp we were there for four nights five days
we were like shit right now to get back to catmandu i guess we would have to
have to hike five, six days to the airport and then fly, or Stella Blue could pay for a helicopter
straight from base camp all the way back to Catmandu. So I called up Big Cat and I pitched him on the
idea saying, I'll like, like, I'm going to film a Stella Blue music video, take all these
promo shots for you. And all I need from you is two helicopter tickets back to Catmandu.
What's the hit for?
Yeah.
What's that price tag?
They were 950 each.
That's worth it to get you to come down.
What?
Oh, I thought $900?
Yeah.
$9.50.
I thought it was going to be way more than that, bro.
I was like, shit.
Same here.
I guess we found two other people to share it with.
So the price went down.
But yeah, so instead of having to do that six-day hike back down, we got.
So worth it.
Yeah.
Helicopters are sweet.
Have you ever been on a helicopter?
We're anti-helicopter on this podcast.
Oh, shit.
RIP.
Yeah.
Kobe.
Why are we anti-helms?
Didn't we have this conversation?
None of us want to take helicopters.
After what happened to.
RIP.
I thought we were talking about Kobe.
I don't know.
I didn't know we've discussed being anti-helicopter.
Yeah.
I never said I was anti-helicopter.
Though I don't want to go on one.
Yeah, I'm like, if I don't need.
fun man it's scary but it's fun like it i took i took a shorty a short that i had a while back
um we flew from houston to galveston the one it was like a little romantic type vibe jump and uh it
it was and then we like flew around the city and shit it was romantic as fuck man had a little glass
wine back that shit was dope man it's just i had to have the wine because i was a little like
every now and then the turbulence gets me and shit i want anything i'm flying in to be as large as possible
I don't want to be on a small plane
I don't want to be on a helicopter
Yeah something that's built
Yeah I mean I was flying
In a lot of small things on this trip
Yeah I want thick boys only
Didn't you uh didn't you land
At the most dangerous airport?
Yes
Yep
So I want to see if it's actually like
The world's most dangerous runway
Last crash was like
Honduras
Um
This one I think's per plane flight
Luke luck
So this runway, it's just like on the side of a mountain.
And if you, if you come in too short, you'll just slam into the mountain.
Yeah.
Like search Lucla Airport.
And yeah, it's nickname is the world's most dangerous airport.
Do you ever go on these trips and they, you know, extravagant things that you do?
And like halfway through you like, you know what, dog?
Fuck this shit.
I mean, I need to get the fuck up out of here.
Well, I mean, that's how I felt once I got up to base camp
and I was like, I'm not going to do that entire hike back.
I got to get the fuck out of here.
Call in the Stella Blue helicopter.
But, yeah, I honestly, I felt safe this whole trip.
Probably the most dangerous thing I did was the three teaspoons of Matt Honey.
Mom and dad, I apologize.
It was for scientific research.
But other than that, no, I felt safe.
When we were landing at the world's most dangerous runway,
I didn't have like a good view out the window.
So that made me feel more safe.
And I mean, I saw a lot of planes land and take off.
I don't think it's too dangerous.
I'm seeing it number eight, kind of mid, honestly.
Who's number one?
Okay.
Number one, this has the airport in St. Martin,
which now I question that list
because that's the one
that you can go up to the fence
and like the planes land right
at the edge of the beach.
I don't think that's like dangerous.
It says sometimes pilots have become known
to become disoriented
regarding their perceived altitude
when operating individual flight rules
because they approach to the runways over water.
So I guess maybe that one in Honduras is four.
I'd say the Kabul airport definitely is the most dangerous.
Yeah, isn't that where that?
Yeah.
Donnie, are you familiar with the Hechi Airport in China and Guangji?
No.
H-E-C-H-I, that's listed as the second most dangerous.
Okay.
2,200 feet above sea level on top of 65 mountains.
Engineers leveled off the mountaintops to create a 1.4 mile long and 150-foot wide runway
with a thousand-foot drop on one side.
The runway's so narrow it can only accommodate three flights an hour.
damn
did you guys know
there was actually a helicopter pilot
who landed on the top of Mount Everest
no
which I didn't think a helicopter
I thought it was too the air's too thin
yeah that's what I thought too
I think there's probably a YouTube video
about it but yeah
he just so he never even got out of the
helicopter he just landed on the peak
and then took off like five minutes later
just say he did it
um the first yeah let's say the first and only did didier del sal he's a frenchman and of course
he did it back in 2005 he was there for three minutes that's why yeah i thought the air would be
way too thin that's why i always heard about it yeah um
but uh yeah would anyone here ever want to actually climb everest not a chance
yeah i'm sure billy billy would absolutely yeah i actually uh and uh an american doctor died on
everest i think two days ago jesus yeah and it wasn't in some sort of climbing accident
or anything he just he went to bed and didn't wake up
which can just, like, happen with the altitude.
I see, I'm good.
Everything works perfectly fine in Houston, Texas.
I'm chilling right here.
No, I mean, it's not super high.
My bucket list, I was pumped to be able to spend some time at the base camp.
It was almost like living on the moon.
But, yeah, I didn't really feel the need to go all the way up.
the hardest part in where most people die is called the kumbu ice fall have you ever heard of that oh yeah
yeah that's that first part because you're pretty much hiking on a glacier and like it can just change
um like it can the it will move so actually hiking it at night is the safest time because that's
when it's cold where the ice isn't going to like break apart but if you're hiking it on a warm day
you know the the shelf of ice that you're on can just break and send you down into a crevasse
so yeah i mean it's all scary shit did you see any of those you know how on everest they say
that they can't get the bodies yeah so we didn't go high enough to start seeing the bodies
but apparently there's a lot of them um and it's so wild like nims the guy i was with he runs a company
where people sign up and pay him a lot of money in the understanding that he's going to get them up to the top.
But that's got to be such a stressful job.
Yeah.
You're like, all right.
And most of the people who sign up for these trips have a lot of mountaineering experience and things like that.
But I'm sure there are people who sign up just because they're like, oh, I've always wanted to climb Mount Everest.
It might not like be prepared for the hike.
but he still has to try to get him up there.
Like right now I've been seeing a lot of articles saying that
tons of people are signed up to climb the mountain this year
and there might only be like a two week window where the weather is like
where the weather is optimal to reach the summit.
So it's just going to get really crowded up there.
And you can have like traffic jams like up at the peak of people
just waiting to get to the top
and that's where some people have died in the past.
Hmm.
Not for me, man.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Was there anything else in Nepal that you did noteworthy?
Um, yes.
But if we want to move on to the wonders of the world,
we could.
And then I'm sure, like, later,
when the videos are
actually dropping
if there's a solid
story I want to share
I can hop back on
yeah I don't want
I don't want you to spoil the content now
man for sure
yeah
I appreciate you sharing all that shit man
that's just interesting
you're a traveled man
and way more adventurous than I am
and I can appreciate that
yeah
you're way braver than I am
I am not
I'm a home back big dogs
one of the guys I was with
actually, I would like to get him on the pod because he's this Scottish dude has to be the most
most interesting man I have ever met. He's rode across the Atlantic Ocean. Like he left
from Portugal, arrived in Venezuela or something like that. Whoa. Yeah, he's rode across that.
He also canoed across the Okavanga Delta in Africa, which is,
filled with crocs and hippos.
Probably, yeah, some of those dangerous shit.
Yeah, he used to be a British Marine.
He now does that show of Will Smith.
You know that like our planet or whatever,
that nature show that Will Smith does?
He works on that now.
How long has it been since I taken the honey?
Oh, my God.
Like 15 minutes, belly.
You're fine.
Yes search
Are you
No I just started feeling
Oh it's called
Welcome to Earth
Really out of it
It's it's been 15 minutes
You're okay
Yeah
Okay
You're fine
Yeah
This guy's name is
Aldo Kane
He would come on the podcast
I think for sure
He's done some crazy shit
And also a very nice guy
bet we'll do the we'll do the exchange that'd be it'll be dope to meet him is uh big tee i want to get
you uh hopping in man is there anything you got on your mind anything you pissed off about
yeah you teed off you were talking to us early we're about something you may be teed off
about in like the near future um no i'm not teed off about that well i'll i'll have a better
report next week i'm going to a taylor swift comment
this weekend and it's supposed to rain. So that's the only, uh, it's not the only drawback. I
wouldn't be going to this of my own volition. But, uh, I, I guess I'll have more to report on Monday.
We'll see how that goes. I'm so jealous of you. Okay. Wait, is the concert outside? Why is, why is
the radio factor? Yeah, it's at Nissan Stadium. How much, how much for the tickets? Am I allowed to ask?
So I got them that we bought them like when they came out.
We just got them.
So they were like 175.
Okay.
And the the cheapest ones in our section are reselling for like 1,200, which I have contemplated.
My girlfriend was like, she said let's sell them and like go on a vacation.
I'm like, no, I can't.
I would, because she's looked forward to it too much.
So even I, I know she would like.
Even if she says that, I don't believe it.
And you said she had all kind of fits planned out for this year.
Oh, yeah.
She has purchased three outfits for one concert.
And now it's going to rain.
But get some raincoats and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that might suck.
We'll see.
I'll have a better idea when we reconvene.
Do you mind texting us as soon as the two surprise songs.
Come on and tell me what they are.
Sure.
I will, I'll be sure to provide us.
updates. Thank you. Gia and I and Kelly Keegs keep a list of what's been played. Okay. And you have,
we have a firsthand. I'm hoping that, like, Nashville gets a little better show than everywhere else.
I feel like that should be the case for artists from Nashville. You, well, she's from,
even though she's not, yeah, and she pretended to be, like, Southern for a while. But I, I feel
like you'll get a good show. I also feel like you might get a good guest. You might get Tim McGraw.
So I have hypothesized that as well.
And then she sings Tim McGraw with Tim McRaw.
She's done that before.
I said that very thing.
I would love that.
Tim McGraw concerts for anybody that hasn't gone fantastic.
He gets up at the beginning.
He says, I don't know if y'all have been to any concerts in mine before,
but I don't like talk, do anything.
We start doing the show and we sing until we're done.
And that's what he does.
And he just plays all the hits.
But yeah, so that'll be.
that'll be this weekend but yeah no right now i'm uh we're good
love to hear it you're wellmed i'm wellmed yep love to love to see big tea
wound man um yeah so if anybody what's up what's up oh i was just gonna ask if you
wanted to talk about the Taj Mahal things of that nature yeah and i was about to say
way man you definitely cut me off it's all good um so if anybody don't have nothing else we'll get back
into the topic of today, which was the wonders of the world.
And I'll be honest, man, this was a lot less, because we each picked one, right?
We each picked one and we're all going to talk about our specific one.
Like, I wish I had more information, I guess.
I guess I could have went into the details, but it was just, I feel like the details were
boring, actually, when I, when I did mine.
So I guess we'll save mine or should I come out with mine.
if it's boring you should go first specifically there's which wonders of the world we're doing
there's like a ton of different wonders of the world yeah there's there's the ancient wonders
yeah the seven wonders of the ancient world the new seven wonders of the world as of 2007 and then
the seven wonders of the world as of 2011 and then that's natural wonders and then there's the
yeah then there's wonders from different countries but the Himalayas I guess are one of the
natural ones of the world so we've already crossed that one off the list actually no what
yeah Mount Everest is listed is one wait finalists this list was 2011 the new seven
I couldn't I couldn't find like a hundred percent solid list like there's lists all over the
place of different kinds of world wonder. So I was just like, fuck it. We all just going to like
make up our own list. And what we're going to do at the end is like we're all going to
give our thoughts about what a current wonder is. Yeah. So I saw one list that had the Empire
State Building listed and that's trash. No, Empire State Building cannot play in this era.
The first, the first time I even heard about the wonders of the world was King Kong. And the allegory
was that Kong is now the new eighth wonder of the world.
world when it was the Empire State Building. That's why he was climbing the Empire State
Building. See, like the Taj Mahal still looks cool. The pyramids, like still nobody knows
like how those are there. Those are still awesome. The Empire State Building, not even a top
10 building in New York anymore. Okay. Well, it, I mean, in its day, it can't play with freedom tower.
But to be a wonder of the world, it needs to transcend time. If you, if you saw, it was a flash in the
pan. It had a good season.
It's, you know what?
The Empire State Building is Jeremy Lynn.
I'm just going to say it.
Jeremy Lynn.
I'm just going to say it.
I'm just going to say.
No, no, this is going to be controversial,
but the Empire State Building got hit by a plane and didn't go down.
Just saying.
Are you blaming?
That was a three person.
That was like a four person.
Hang on, hang on.
29 bomber in World War II.
And I think 1949.
I have never once.
You have blame knowledge.
I'm just saying.
I've never heard someone victim blame the world trade.
center for 9-11 that is quite a take of just saying it's built to test the time i that was about
i'm from new york i can make that so you i mean yeah i guess it's nostalgic because you live in
this era right and you from that era and you from that region too but i don't look at i i don't need
new york city's top five skyline that top five in the world number one
No, no, no, I'm talking about an America.
Oh, an America.
I think an American, it's a tough-five skyline.
I mean, what even, what even comes close?
Chicago.
Seattle, Seattle, Chicago's got a great skyline.
The New York's the OG.
L.A. is like eight different cities.
There isn't a skyline.
Chicago has more tall buildings than New York, I think.
Yeah, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say L.A. is better than New York.
I think it's, I think it's up there.
I have to, you talking about the one that actually takes pictures from the planes, big.
I do that when I'm fine.
That's fair enough.
Chicago does have some,
a couple good buildings.
The Adels is fire.
So with Dallas needle.
Dallas is dope with the ball with the ball.
San Francisco is kind of cool.
Yeah.
With the bridge.
With the bridge and the pyramid building that they have.
Yeah.
Vegas?
Uh,
yeah.
Well,
let's say Vegas for later because I have some takes.
We say Vegas.
Is it a one?
wonder? We'll talk about that later. Oh, you got. Yeah. Okay. Now, the OG wonders are the seven wonders of the
ancient world. Yeah. Those. And the pyramids are the only ones left standing of those seven. So if we want to
start there, I chose the great pyramids of Giza. Uh, because they are, I mean, yeah, they're the,
the last standing of the ancient world. And it is insane. Do you know,
know that Cleopatra is closer to us now than the old actually wait that might have changed recently
no no no yeah closer to us now than the actual pyramids being built yeah yeah so like even back in
julius caesar's day they had like no idea who built the pyramids they were just like these things
are i think they had been built like 3 000 years before them so they they had no idea where
they came from really with radio carbon dating they
They've only been able to put it between 2,600 BC and 2400 BC.
There's a 200-year gap.
It could be older.
Yeah.
I mean, there are takes out there.
It's made up of 2 million stone blocks.
And the craziest part about it is like a lot of the blocks came from around there.
But a shit ton of granite came from a granite, like, 500,
And they still don't like they say they floated it down the Nile, but how the hell do you float city building size blocks on the boats that they had back then? It's actually wild.
So they were originally covered in white casing made of glimmering limestone. And but like over the years, that's slowly disintegrated through earthquakes and the sun's raised. Vandalism probably. Yeah. And there's no hieroglyphics in the
those pyramids.
Really?
So it may have predated stone car.
Like it's so insane.
They don't know how exactly they built it.
The main chamber is made of a granite coffer, which like seems fine until you realize that you
couldn't get that coffer into the pyramid through how it was built.
They must have built the pyramid around the grave.
Um, like no one knows how exactly they built it.
Yeah, they say that it was made, you know, you know, stone men and just having tons of labor, like just they were throwing like hundreds of thousands of men at it to like move these giant blocks and like, but it like no one can actually estimate how they like really did it without machinery without, uh, you know, a steam engine without like any of the technology today.
And it's made a lot of people think that some ancient civilization had technology that we don't know about and we haven't discovered that just.
disappeared with the time yeah like that sound vibration
technology where they could like move blocks with sounds like basically just
singing at stone could move it yeah i mean that's all that uh roger what's his name
we talked about oh um yeah ancient alien ancient apocalypse graham hancock yeah and it used to have a
a golden capstone too at the top like that definitely got stolen mm-hmm um what's funny about
is how every different cultures
interpreted and how many people
have stood in front of it.
So like Alexander the Great,
Caesar,
you know, I think...
Napoleon?
Napoleon.
I think Hannibal?
I might be wrong on that.
I think Hannibal.
H-man.
I think at one point.
H-man?
Why does he get the name?
Just call him Hitler, bro.
Yeah.
I don't want him to be like I don't want to say he's amongst the greats because he's terrible person like amongst the great conquerors because he's a terrible person well he never conquered Egypt so didn't he wasn't he wasn't in front I'm like he may have he may have visited the pyramids as like as just like a tourist but the Nazis never conquered Egypt.
Egypt remained neutral.
But it was kind of controlled by the British Empire back then.
So they probably kept the Nazis out.
So the desert fox and all that was North Africa, but never Egypt.
Yeah.
But now who can name me?
Is there really is there any pictures of Hitler in front of the pyramid?
I couldn't find one.
Wait.
Hitler in front.
I don't think, I don't think there is, bro.
why am I crazy is that just in Raiders the lost arc
yeah you might be thinking to Indiana Jones is that where that was coming from
I found no I found an article that says
I just feel like a picture with Hitler in front of the pyramids would have been pretty
prevalent I have never seen it I haven't seen it I could be wrong I don't have
conquered I did find an article that said it says Egypt didn't chill for the Nazis
in World War II.
Who conquered Egypt?
You don't have to keep Googling.
We got to the bottom of it.
Yeah.
The Nazis did not.
I know.
I know.
I think I'm forgetting other people.
Like Saladin.
Yeah.
The Arab caliphates that expanded through there.
Yep.
The Mongols did not.
They got...
Mongols did not.
They got beat by the Mom Luke's
who came out of Egypt.
Yeah.
Yeah
Now who can name
These six other ancient wonders
Big T, go
I saw a list earlier
And now I don't remember
Many of them
Or any of them I think
Think of
A lighthouse
A lighthouse
Yeah
There's some
I remember seeing a lighthouse
Don't remember
Where is that though
that was the lighthouse of Alexandria
which was tall as fuck
it was like 330 feet tall
that's pretty damn big
it was built
I'm trying to go off of memory
some kind of garden or something like that
yep
what is what does it call up
the hanging gardens of Babylon
there you go yeah
that's the only one that
people aren't sure
if it ever existed or not
because they can't find like
all of the other ones they have
proof that it was there at one point
the hanging gardens of Babylon
they can't like prove that they existed
but it would be pretty damn cool if they did
that was where the Iranian
1986 2000
year party was right
um
no
wait wait where was
Babylon's in Iraq
oh yeah
what was that party that was thrown yeah that was that was thrown like at the at the ancient capital
of the persian empire oh yeah yeah which was the most expensive party in the world yeah yeah
it's nuts um i've been to babylon no big deal i did not see any hanging gardens
but interesting that was what saddam overlooked right
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm going to mix up with.
What are the other ones just so we listen to the old world?
Oh, the Colossus of Rhodes, which I thought that was cool.
It's kind of like the Statue of Liberty.
I think it's what the Statue of Liberty was based on.
But this one was built in, shit, was it built in 280 BC?
I think it was around the same size as the Statue of Liberty.
and a lot of people said it was right at the entrance of the harbor at Rhodes
and it had like one foot on one side of the entrance and the other foot on the other side
and so ships would kind of just like enter the harbor right underneath its legs which
is pretty cool pretty sure that's like a scene in Lord of the Rings as well I was going to say
Game of Thrones I think has a one like that also yes I think so yeah and both of those were
based on the Colossus of Roads,
which was real.
108 feet tall.
That sounds about like what the Statue of Liberty is.
Yeah.
I'm gonna keep it a buck, man.
The only one that's even like,
the detested time was the pyramids.
The rest of these are kind of mid, man.
Yeah.
Well, there were a lot of earthquakes.
The pyramids, I mean, the thing about the pyramids is that
all the pyramids across,
the earth have stood the test of time.
Also, because you can't really knock one down.
Yeah.
Like, how would you push a pyramid over?
You can't.
Yeah, I think...
But, like, I don't want to speak for Aryan,
but I think I echo your sentiment,
so I think we think the same thing.
Even if these still existed,
they're not that cool.
The Colossus of Roe looked pretty cool.
The Coloss of Roads, like,
you're passing through a giant dude.
That one, fine.
The other ones like this.
I just think it's me like when you look at the pyramids and the lower behind it and the possibilities and the things we're still uncovering and the shit that you know what I'm saying like the ducks that you know have all this quirky shit that's probably regular but you know still fun to talk about type shit about it fire it's it's absolutely a world wonder how do we get but we're still like on the fence we kind of know we kind of don't know a lot of speculated the rest of these shit is like this statue of Zeus 40 feet tall
I'm not kind of
I'm saying like it's like it's bad man
I feel like
the bar was low initially
and like they wanted to do something
to commemorate the entire world
to be like there's a whole bunch
interesting shit about our world
look at the great pyramids
and after that it was like
and then there's a really cool
40 foot statue
you know what I'm saying
a bunch of men
yeah
a bunch of men
all the Christians
used to think that
The pyramids were Joseph's granary.
You know that story about Joseph and the granary?
I don't actually.
Joseph made like these giant 12 miles stretch between Memphis and Babylon.
Their pyramids, which Joseph made in order to store corn.
Oh.
Yeah.
I didn't hear that.
That's how they justified the pyramids to Christians.
And then there's like other stories that it was like Noah's, like, they were really Noah's ark.
It wasn't an actual boat.
That's like where they survived.
the flood. What's really cool about the pyramids of
Giza is that they like
you could lock yourself in there
and like not
no one would be able to get in
from the way they designed the doors
and there's also on their
cornerstones there was a ball and socket
joint to make them
resistible to earthquakes
that's wild
yeah shocks
yeah kind of like I don't really
understand it
But they just were doing super advanced shit in case of earthquakes or heat expansion.
I mean, that ancient.
I mean, back then it would be so hard to actually chisel out all those blocks too because
they didn't have like power tools.
They're claiming that they did it with, you know, iron tools, iron and bronze and that there
was just a ton of people doing it.
Yeah, because someone said if you like went to that Corey today and tried to just like
break out a block using an iron tool
it would take you like
yeah 100,000 men in a day
to do 250 stones a day
like yeah the
because like one one person
can only chisel out like a cubic
centimeter of stone or something
in like a day it's insane
also were they able to create that much food
to support that many people
like the like in then if they had like
they had like a graveyard
on site for like all those workers didn't they find like a whole graveyards of people they're saying
historians are now saying that they weren't all slaves because they found like paid craftsmen
with coins in certain camps but i think maybe it's probably a mixture like but i'm not sure but like it
doesn't make sense how do you not only if there's all that manpower devoted to building the pyramids
how much of like where else is the manpower that needs to feed those men like who are farming
creating food and working on other parts of society and then if you add all those people up does
that encapsulate the population of egypt at that time because if you have you know over like
several hundred thousand people working round the clock like shifting tons and tons of like
gigantic pieces of granite down the nile like this these pyramids seems like is taking up
the whole economic resources of egypt which i guess if you're the pharaoh like
that's what you want your whole kingdom working on but then like what if someone attacks
so during the time during the time of the pyramid's construction the total population of the
late old kingdom was 1.5 million to 1.6 million people and hence the labor force this is what
they said and hence such a labor force would not have been an extraordinary imposition on the
country's economy it's like directly answering your I don't know that's what the running
if there was ever a conspiracy I wanted to be true
it's this one I want I want this one to be the one
I would love for the the construction of the pyramids
to have been made by aliens and I don't know how they
whatever you know what I'm saying like or it's like a vortex
to another dimension or whatever if there was ever one to be true
this the shit I so I saw one that Atlantis was like a worldwide empire
and wherever they found pyramids
were just Atlantis colonies
and like all the ones they find
in the forest
but then again I think that's like
Graham Hancock
yeah but I think that's like a confirmation
like a I don't know what the exact word is
but since pyramids can't get destroyed
is that easily because you can't push them over
the only things that survived were pyramids
whereas every other structure crumbled
so that's why we only find ancient pyramids
that makes sense
Yeah. Like when they used to study armor on bombers, they're like looking at all the planes that got back to see where they got shot the most. And they're like, oh, that's where we should put the armor. Then they realize, oh, wait, no, we need to put the armor where they didn't get shot because all the planes that got shot down didn't come back for us to test. So they're like, oh, where these planes didn't get shot need more armor because that's their actual weak points.
yeah that makes sense
is there you got any
you got anything else on the pyramids
it's just crazy
it's just nuts
it's just nuts it's just wow
like maybe they were
yeah cook really fuck it cook
dude dude I mean
how I guess like when you don't have birth control
when you don't have that much going on
when every other people around
you don't really have to worry about
defending your kingdom because there's no other advanced civilization to like go after you
that you can concentrate on this stuff and that's hell of judgy though you see when you don't have
that much going on like you just shit on everybody's live during that period like they just
like them niggas weren't happy them niggas been doing shit they weren't writing they didn't have
hyaligraph hieroglyphics i mean they had culture bro they had things to do they didn't just get up and
be like man i can't wait till future civilization is right about us
but I'm saying they had no real competition
as a giant civilization. I feel like every other
like
city state around
them probably had zero
like they weren't concerned about someone attacking them
while they're just building a giant pyramid.
In 1.6 million, that's the population
of, isn't that like the population in New York City?
About
20% of New York City.
New York City is like 10, it's like 8 or 10
or I would mention like 8.
Yeah, a way of New York City.
Yeah, you got that totally wrong.
1.6 is like Nashville.
Yeah.
Which is a lot.
I mean, it's a lot of people back then, you know what I'm saying?
Because you got to think the world population now is around seven and a half,
eight billion.
So back then the world population was probably way lower.
So, you know, you look at that mathematical, matter of fact, we can just look that up.
What I guess?
Nashville couldn't build a pyramid.
Actually...
Could or could not?
No.
Memphis could.
Yeah.
But that one's made out of glass.
Yeah.
Should we get into the new wonders of the world?
Yeah, I want to see what the world population was real quick.
I think it's like, I feel like I read a new article every week where they're like,
we found this new chamber inside the pyramid like why we need to start sending some people inside
to check out those chambers what if there's actually gigantic underground structure underneath
the pyramids well yeah like some people think it was built around an even more more ancient
structure like it could have been underneath yeah like it could have been built around something
that was originally built 10,000 years ago which then like points to like a much more ancient
civilization than we know of. What, like, the most ancient civilization all went underground because
the surface of the earth was too tumultuous with like meteorites and shit. And they're really
that's, um, uh, in, in Cappadocia, Turkey, they have these underground cities that could,
that could hold like, I think up to 20,000 people could live underground. I got to, I got to go in one.
and they go down like 10 stories.
Jesus.
And so some people think like maybe those were used when there was all of these like
when there was the comet impact and then just crazy floods and fires.
I mean the common impact,
that's what they're saying may have wiped out the mammoths plus humans hunting them to extinction.
Because I mean like what if under the pyramids there's just.
entrance to the center of the earth where there's like heat from the core that combines with
some sort of like what if there's literally mole people living in the center of the earth
and actually what if they're the aliens we see driving the UFOs um yeah i don't know about that
but like think about it think about this is my this is my imagine you see a mouse in your house
you see a mouse in your house
right with your spouse
with your spouse
um
so you see a mouse in your house
and you're like
did that mouse is that
Jack McClouse
is that more likely
to be a mouse
that lives in my house
just somewhere I can't see
or is that mouse
from another person's house
and just ran into my house
I think the
what are we doing here?
What are we talking about?
Because like that's
UFOs like we see UFOs in our sky do you think that UFOs from our planet or from another planet like
what's more likely one of the pilots reported seeing the UFO like coming coming out of the ocean right yeah
so what if they're in the center of the earth and just like they have like their most of their gates are like
in the ocean where it's deep i mean that would be sweet that'd be cool i don't really know that's my like
what else to say like we're not alone yeah but yes
I did confirm the largest underground city in Cappadocia could house 20,000 people, which is insane.
Think about the scurvy and vitamin D deficiency those people probably had?
Yeah.
I mean, they would have some like port holes to let the sun in, but scurvy, if you're eating vitamin C, but living in the dark, will you get scurvy?
You know, I mix that up with vitamin D deficiency and vitamin C deficiency.
Isn't scurvy the vitamin C deficiency?
That's oranges and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They used to have no idea what caused that.
So everyone who was on a ship for three months just eating like salted pork and crackers
would just start to get scurvy and die.
And they're like, shit, what are we going to do?
Limes.
It was Captain James Cook.
He's like, you just kind of feed him some oranges and everyone's fine.
Just put a lime in their corona.
Yes.
It prevents scurvy.
Lime in the grove.
Navy grind
So
No more
Egypt stuff
Are you still want to
I'm letting you cook this episode
Billy
I'm cooked
He's cooked
I feel kind of giddy
I don't know why
I wonder why that is
That's good
No
Sam Talent
He was just on the Joe Rogan show
And Joe gave him a
Spoonful of honey
And he actually
This was the same time
That I had taken three teaspoons
I was losing my shit and he was like, oh, no, I had one spoon and I was just having a great time on the pod.
I was kind of giggly.
So, yeah, you took a solid dose.
Sweet.
You don't have to worry about anything.
Sweet.
What are some Machu Picchu?
Mad dog.
Yeah, so we were.
Okay, go ahead.
Wait, no, Aaron, what were you going to say?
You have.
I was going to go around and see what else, because we all pick different ones.
And so I don't know, yeah, he was excited about Machu Picchu.
Go ahead.
Go ahead and kick it off.
Yeah, so I picked Machu Pichu, and I knew it existed.
Like, I knew what it was.
And, like, I studied in eighth grade, Philly's looking on me all weird.
And I studied it in, like, eighth grade Spanish.
But I did some research on it.
So I was, I, Aaron, I kind of know what you're saying.
It was like, it was kind of boring because I kept looking up, like, crazy shit about
Machu Picchu, weird things about Machu Picchu, conspiracy theories about Machu Picchu.
Not what, Billy?
I don't know.
Okay
And not a ton of like weird things were coming up
It was like all just like notable things about Machu Picchu
And so this is going to be just more educational
But still a fun time Machu Picchu is very interesting
But
Oh I mean like are you okay Billy
Anyways I'm doing fine
He's literally fine anyways
So I didn't realize
So Machu Picchu's in Peru
I did not realize that it connects to mountain peaks like it's in between two mountains and so one end is on one mountain peak and another end is on the other which I thought was interesting and it's like so you get to the city that it resides in in Peru which I'm blanking on the name of it and it's below it so the city that it presides in in Peru is extremely high like I think it's like 2,500 meters above sea level and then you have to go down a thousand.
meters to even get to it which in my brain I'm thinking it's the opposite where it's like you got to
climb up to Machu Picchu yeah I always assumed that too right I did too yeah um that's what that's what
it was explained to me as if I'm wrong let me know but um it's also made a granite which again in my
brain I don't know a ton about rocks granite seems like a crazy thing to make that out of just
because I'm thinking like granite countertops, but like that's heavy shit that you're, I can't like
that you're forming this huge, yeah, transporting and doing all this with. So, um, the Incas made this
in the early to late, uh, it would be, I think 15th century, if I'm doing my math correctly.
Dude, they stripped. 1400s. Yeah. Yeah. And they disappeared. So hold on. I'll get there.
Yeah. So, um,
If you know how the Machu Picchu looks,
it's in the middle it has the Intiwutana,
which is that sundial and then twice a year.
They aligned the sundial with the rotation of the sun.
So in the summer and winter equinox, it casts zero shadow,
which gives me alien vibes.
Because it's nuts that they nailed that.
well I think they had not much to do so they're staring at the sky I guess white blood cells in
yeah yeah it's like if you have nothing else to do but yeah so two times a year there's exactly
zero shadow and that lines up with the equinoxes of summer and winter which I thought was interesting
that's pretty cool I know um and they align everything with like the sun like the incas do because
their um it's believed that their rulers came from like a solar deity so
they believe that basically their god came from the sun and came from the sky so they took the sun
very seriously which then makes sense as to why they looked at the sun so closely because they
took it as like signs from god of like your shadow and everything and then again this isn't
this is just me like coming to a conclusion but like on the summer and winter equinox where there's
like no shadow it's like god is preparing a new season for us or their god i don't know um
And then I was like doing more research on the Incas and they, I was watching a video of people looking at Inca skeletons and they would have these elongated skulls because if you had a short king as a kid, they would wrap tight cloths around their head to lengthen their skull to make it look taller.
Or what if they were aliens?
Or what if they were aliens?
because their skulls would be like slanted and look like the cone heads.
What if they're trying to look like the gods that came down?
Right.
But they wanted them to look taller.
So they would wrap their cloth around their kid's heads when they were still soft.
And then it would basically make your skull higher and then make you have the appearance of looking taller, which I thought is crazy town.
Imagine doing that to your own kid.
Yeah, you're like, come here.
Oh, you know what?
No, the ink has disappeared.
the Mayans disappeared.
No, the Inca's disappeared.
Well, but we kind of know why they disappeared.
They think it's a smallpox epidemic, but they don't know the realties that I learned.
Well, and like they're...
I think the Europeans had contact with the Inksos.
They still like, like...
By the time the Incastadors came, they were gone now.
Oh.
No, the conquistadors had to fight them.
There was like a big war.
Tizarro versus the Inkins.
It was like a big war.
What I was reading is that the Conquistadors were already there when they were gone.
The Aztecs and the Aztecs in the...
Oh, that was the case with Matri Picchu.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Machu Picchu disappeared.
Inca's were there.
Mayans disappeared.
That's where 2012 comes from.
Yeah, exactly.
The craziest thing I know about the Inkins is they never had the wheel.
So when they were like building Matru Picchu, they had no help of like a wheel to
drag it to transport it.
Yeah.
Apparently they just said that blocks were just dragged it.
dragged. Or maybe they put
some blocks in like a llama, because
they did domesticate. Yeah, llamas are huge
there. They try to ride llamas
when the conquistores came because
the horses, but the llamas just weren't about
it. No. They weren't ride or die.
Yeah, their backs weren't bred over
like, they spit, too. Hundreds of thousands
of years to accommodate humans.
Lama still spit. You can also,
I was reading it, if you go today to Machu Picchu,
you can like take selfies with llamas and apparently
they like smile and pose.
They won't ask you to suck their tongue though.
True.
Also because they can't speak English or any language.
But yeah, so the llamas are huge there.
But I also, so speaking of like the wheels,
the Inkins when they were building Machu Picchu built each stone so exactly that you couldn't
even, they were so bound together.
You couldn't fit a razor blade through them.
And they didn't use any molding device.
They just pushed them so, so.
exactly together that they have stood the tests of time and they made them basically like earthquake
proof. Oh. Yeah, that's insane because like this all gives me alien. I mean, again, maybe I'm so
fucking dumb and like I could never even think about doing something as crazy as this. But like that,
like, how? Some of the blocks that the Inkins used were even larger than the blocks used to
build the pyramids. Yeah. I mean, they're not small. Like they're, they're, they're like.
my wingspan and you would and they would carve them exactly correctly so that they basically
laid on top of each other and didn't need any binding fire place to live though peru
like well just i'm looking at like the ruins right when you look at the ruins just think about it's
like all brand new and the grass is still green and you got people and you got markets and walking
around like that's a cool little town to be in though you don't mind as superficial shit hmm
Okay.
That's probably how they did it.
Coca leaves.
Boom.
Apparently chewing those leaves helps you deal with the altitude.
I heard that if you land in a airport in Peru, they just have like, if like they just
have back, like not bags, but baskets of them.
Yeah.
To grab and chew.
Yeah.
That's what all of the hikers there do.
They just chew the leaves.
But yeah.
So, um, lots of it.
I didn't see anything about cocaine use with the inkins, but.
They definitely chewed coca leaf.
I mean, it was there.
But does that give you that same, I've never done cocaine, but like, does that give you the same high?
I don't think it's as intense, but.
Right, because it's not going into like your bloodstream.
But yeah, but you, you feel something.
They're sacred, religious, yeah, the sacred coca leaf of the Incas.
The coca leaf was sacred to the Incas.
It had properties to help withstand hunger, fatigue, and S-O-C-H-E, which I cannot pronounce.
Sounds a lot like cocaine
Yeah
But then
What is Saroche?
But going back to the heads
If like you're
So they think that
Machu Picchu and like the Incan culture
Was like kind of like America
In terms of like a melting pot
Of different types of people
So the whole cloth with the head tied around it
It would mark you as like a certain culture
So like if you came from a different place Billy than I did
Then you and I would have different shaped heads
Whoa
I know right
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
Which, how many shapes can your head be?
I actually know someone who recently had a kid and I guess the kid was lying on its back too much and it had a really flat head.
So now it has to wear a helmet to kind of reshape its head.
I've seen the helmet thing on kids.
Yeah.
Got to have tummy time.
Yeah.
But she really doesn't want the kid to wear the helmet because she was like, it looks so weird.
But I'm like, well, just have him wear the helmet now and then it'll look normal when he's old.
in school. If he doesn't wear the helmet now, he's going to get made fun of in school.
But, yeah. For having a flat head.
Doctor recommendations. I like, it's too weird.
Yeah. I mean, bro. Take care of you.
It's like, dude, your kid's going to be getting bullied in eighth grade if he doesn't wear the helmet now.
Or freshman year of college, we had all shave our heads when we won a championship game.
And just so funny because so many dudes had weird shaped heads, we just had no idea who had no idea
that their own heads were shaped bad
until they shaved their head
for the first time
Yeah
But I mean the helmet thing is like really common
Now I mean now I guess
Because the baby's got the soft heads
Did like like Aaron did your kids ever have to wear a helmet
Like I think it's more common than you think
No I never
I've seen kids but I've never
I've never experienced it
Yeah because if you have like a vaginal birth
And it's basically like
And your head gets
What?
Coned
Like if your baby
Like if your baby comes out of you
and it's just like it was a little squeezed in there.
That's how your head gets up misshaping like that.
Yeah, no.
But then there's, their tissue's still soft enough to form.
It's like Plato.
That's what happened to Rocky Sylvester Salone.
What?
Like he had a weird birth and that's what, how he made like his,
let me look up exactly what I'm talking about.
It's not me to, it's not even four sets.
And that's why he sounds weird today.
Sylvester.
Grove building
I don't think he sounds weird
Yeah
Sylvester Salon he's got
I mean I just feel like he has like a distinctive voice
I don't know
complication during labor forces
mothers obstetricians to use two pairs
of forceps during his birth
misuse of the forceps accidentally severed a nerve
and caused paralysis in parts of Stallone's face
Oh so he'd be like
Oh because he kind of does like that I guess
Yeah
I got the nigga out with like some pliers
Damn
That's crazy
All right man
So that was Machu Picchu
You got anything else to add to Machu Picchu
To kind of put in the perspective
The same time that
Machu Picchu was getting built
Leonardo da Vinci was painting the Mona Lisa
Whoa
Wow
I did not know that
The Inkins were also the world's first communists
I think
Hunter Gatherers were the first communists
Yeah I don't know about that one
Well, they were like a developed, organized society that they like stockpiled all their food together, like they kind of just shared everything.
I read this really awesome book, The History of Debt. And it talked about how on the surface like all groups were communist because they would bring everything they hunted gathered together into one place and then would just share. But the thing tying them together was.
debt like was societal debt and debt to each other like feeling like you had to give something
be it to your the guy you went hunting with or your guy like your wife your so community yeah but the
thing is their argument with that is it all has to do with a certain type of debt to each other
which is capitalist and that's how they justify it but but read it read it read it i know it's horrible
I know it's horrible.
Read it.
Oh, it's a horrible analogy saying your debt to society is capitalism.
Yeah.
But you're debt to each other.
Like, I feel like I owe you this because and.
Therefore, we are for corporate profits at all costs.
Yeah.
I'm not a big.
It does, it makes you think a lot.
That makes me think zero.
But I'm sure you're, there's a deeper argument.
Yeah.
One last thing about the Inkins.
They didn't have a writing.
system but they had these things called
Chupoos which were
like these strings
with knots in them and they could
literally use those strings
and knots to pass on
certain information
so that was their one way
of storing knowledge
like a string
decimal
like yeah search Q UIPU
Q-U's and you can see a photo of them
like that's
what they used instead of writing just these like crazy knot string contraptions oh wow and so they
had like an alphabet like a system yeah like oh if this rope had two knots it meant something if
this rope had three it meant something almost like a morse code but on a string yeah collecting data
keeping records monitoring tax obligations collecting census records calendar information and
military organization course stored numeric and other values encoded as not often based 10
positional systems that's wild a few thousand chords that's pretty dope man yeah you probably
had a whole bunch of like jewelry and necklaces like with names on them and shit yeah
Friendship, that's in far.
That's dope, man.
Dope.
All right, man.
Machu Picchu.
I think the next one.
I'm going to do mine because I think it's going to quit.
And, Donnie, honest, you probably can know more about this shit to me.
But when I was reading up, I just got very disinterested in it.
I don't know, sue me.
But I did the Great Wall of China.
All right.
And the Great Wall.
So, I mean, I thought it was going to have all kind of interesting shit about it.
And it was just like, want, want.
It mentions it to me.
you can tell me more interesting things about it.
But, I mean, the basic of the nutshell is it was built by like multiple states in the initial,
I don't want to fuck this name up, but I want you, Schwinn-Cho, period.
And it was to protect against nomadic raiders, like the Mongols and the Turkish.
And there was another one that I couldn't pronounce as well.
So originally it was to keep out, so they were the original Trumps build that wall.
So it was to keep out people from the northern tribes from raiding.
And as predicted, it didn't never really go that well.
So they decided to expand it.
And they kept expanding it.
And as the new regime came, Emperor Ting Shuang, I'm fucking it up.
Apologies.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
So he unified the whole state.
And so in 2021, he decided to connect them all.
And all I think it was, I pulled it out, 13th.
thousand miles and it was just never really that sufficient and they did end up using it for
various different reasons like I think the most modern use was I think a World War II believe
Japanese invaders they used it as some kind of defense system to kind of like you know
fight around it but for the most part it's pretty useless but it's it's a very historical
a lot of history ridden
a lot of traveling on it stuff like that
I think a lot of tourists come to see it
and it's I guess it's like
just like any other ancient
monument it was built
by a head
estate used
forced labor some
volunteer some indentured
servitude a mixture and combination
of all three
yeah and it's it's
I guess it's a staple but
again
there are some things in it like
Like they had these one parts where there were like towers and they used like smoke signals
to communicate to each other from one to another, little trap things on the top to where you
can shoot arrows from the top and then open holes in the middle so you can cannonball folks
from the bottom.
I love how we are so inventive ways to kill each other.
Super dope.
Yeah, man.
So I mean, all together, it was from my.
little research it's it's a great accomplishment i don't think that it accomplished that much especially
originally what they thought it was going to but ended up just kind of being a staple and um
a lot of the lore that i remembered it for it turned out not to be true like whereas like so you can see
it from the moon yeah that's true they said it's the only man-made monument as you can see from the moon
um that i don't think that part was true but there's a certain height you can see it at but at that
same height you can see a whole bunch of other shit as well and so it it was it's just not as um
nostalgic as i remember it um but that was i mean short and sweet man but if there's there's anything
i miss him things we were talking about shoot but i just found it very horses horses is the big one
it stopped like the mongolians were so like good at conquering everybody's because they were
the best horsemen and probably one of the first people to use horses in battle and
the wall stopped the horses.
It didn't stop the people from climbing over
and then opening the small gates to let the horses in,
but it stopped the big horde
that used to just literally run up on people with, like, no,
like the way, the reason the Mongols almost literally conquered all of Europe
and, like, literally almost conquered all of Asia and everything,
it's just because they were the first people to, like, roll up on cavalry.
And then everyone sort of was like, oh, we need some horses
and everyone caught up a little.
but they were the OGs
and the only way they could stop them at the time
was just build a gigantic wall
because people can climb walls
horses is harder.
Horses cannot.
Yeah, I don't have that much to add.
I will say though seeing it in person
it lives up to the hype.
It's one of those tourist attractions
that's worth the hype.
It looks really fucking cool.
We actually camped out on it for a night
and my friend took a dump off the side
into a plastic bag
and then had to toss the plastic bag.
Is there a lot of light pollution where you were?
Could you see the star, or was it kind of too close?
Um, I don't know.
I don't remember seeing the stars a lot in China.
There's a lot of smog, but.
I figured.
What do you feel about this?
Because I'm like on the, I don't think I'm on the fence of it.
So they have launched like a lot of these ancient monuments.
they launched like, you know, restorative projects and preservation projects to, like, keep it up.
But I'm not sure we should do that.
What do you all feel?
For the Great Wall of China?
I'm just talking about it in general.
Like, I think the one that we should, maybe be Egypt.
But I think we should just explore it.
I don't think we should preserve it necessarily.
Like, you don't want to, like, you don't want to add on to it with modern materials?
Yeah, it takes away from what we're actually, you know, what we actually revere about it.
I could be wrong, though.
Yeah, I mean, if you just rebuild something on top of it, then it's no longer super ancient.
So I can see where you're coming from.
It's that old philosophy question.
So like if you build a boat, right, let's say me and you build a boat.
And on the boat, we have all the materials on the boat to fix the boat.
with every part right so we're traveling on the boat and we go on the boat and a piece of a piece of
wood falls off but we have a piece of wood you know underneath to pass that up and by the end of our
journey every single piece of the boat has fallen off but we have replaced it with an entirely
different boat is it still the same boat how yeah are we the same people every seven years
because our cells totally replicate and replace us?
Even your brain cells?
Yeah.
Wow.
I don't think that's,
I don't think it's the brain cells.
I think every seven years our body has totally replaced dead cells with new cells.
And we're entirely new.
Let me look that up.
How long?
No, I've heard that about our cells, like every other stuff.
But I thought brain cells like neurons and stuff.
Like, is that, is that the case?
neurons replenish
7 to 10 years
On average the cells in your bodies
Are replaced every 7 to 10 years
Yeah
Is that every cell?
The cells in the middle of your eye lenses
Will last your entire life
Okay so that isn't entirely true
Yeah
But that's just like
Yeah
Nerve cells do not renew themselves either
So your nerves don't either
But don't listen to that
Your life can change exponentially
Like this place you are at now
Is not where you will be forever
Okay
Uh oh do we walk into inspirational billy
Onward upward
You can do it
Okay
Even if you don't believe in yourself now
You'll be a totally new person then
Yeah
Well odds are you probably can't do it
No you can be realistic
You can be realistic
You can go still
Okay
Run through that brick wall
back to your point area and like when I went to Babylon the first like only the first six feet of the walls are the actual ancient walls and then the rest were all just rebuilt by Saddam Hussein so like and you can clearly tell you can like see where the old bricks stop and the new bricks start and so it looks a lot cooler now but yeah like most of what you see there was just like rebuilt by Saddam
yeah I feel like that a lot of the older monuments and stuff is like we can remake way cooler
shit now like we just get caught in nostalgia like a lot we can make weight I mean like shit
my house is fire you know what I'm saying we can we can make a whole bunch of way cooler shit
we just get caught in there and it just but it just make no sense to put old as or new ass brick
on some old ass brick but we I don't see the point we never build shit to last anymore like I read a
whole like we boys man cost efficiency we'll also the inflationary system that we use when it comes
to debt uh like anyway but like we're not putting what yeah that's why there's more cheaper construction
so that like you know you can tear it down build something new like keep renovating it and refying and
yeah because keep the money train rolling yeah keep getting you know more loans to like re
upping stuff yeah because if you have a building yeah yeah like someone said if like if humans
were wiped out tomorrow the pyramids of geiza would still be along would still be there a lot
longer than a lot of our modern buildings yeah empire state might still stand i don't know about
that what's the thing with empire state you like the song or it took a north american b20s
Mitchell Bomber
Which
I don't know shit about planes, man
It's a big one
I remember seeing a photo of that plane
It did not look that big
That was the other plane that hit it
Oh
It's been hit by multiple planes
You think that's the best building in
Okay
No
No
It's a mid building
It's a mid building
No I'm just like a fan
That it's like
It was built to let
I don't know
It's just like an American, I mean, a New Yorker's sort of pride, like the Empire State building.
Yeah.
Like, I got you, bro.
Yeah, I'm not from there.
So it doesn't hit me like that.
Yeah.
All right, man.
That wraps up the Great Wall of China.
Somebody else has something else to add.
There's a really cool slide that you can take from the top of it all the way down the hill.
That's probably the most fun part of visiting the Great Wall of China.
How long is that?
I'm down to go.
it lasts like five to ten minutes or something like that really five minutes i feel like i was on
that for five minutes and i almost hit a goat there was like a goat walking across the slide when
i was cooking down that thing could have got pretty hurt if i just slammed into a goat at full
speed five minute slide would rock i i feel like it's a five minute slide um all right but yeah that's
that's all i have we can move
on.
Pivot.
Big T.
What did you,
what did you choose?
I have the Taj Mahal.
Does anyone here not know what the Taj Mahal is why it was built?
Or does everybody know?
I mean,
I feel like I know,
but it's kind of become like an internet meme.
But the guy who built the Taj Mahal was the original simp.
He was Shah Jahan.
he ruled in the 1600s and his favorite wife of his mini passed away and he built the Taj Mahal.
It's basically just her grave. It's a mausoleum.
And it cost about a billion dollars in today's dollars, which seems like a pretty good deal
to me. Stadiums cost more than that now and they don't look as cool as the Taj Mahal.
So I feel like he got a pretty good deal on it.
It took about 20 years to build.
What I didn't know, his other wives that he didn't like as much have tiny little, many, many, many Taj Mahals on the property elsewhere.
So they get, yeah.
So his favorite wife gets that and they get a little marker somewhere on there also.
Yeah, I was fucking with y'all too.
I like it.
Yeah, but he was, he was really just a simp, and he built that as a monument to his favorite wife.
What's really...
Or a romantic. Damn.
What's really cool.
Those aren't mutually exclusive.
It didn't even get him laid because she's already done.
Yeah, gone.
You know what's ridiculous?
There was actually, the Taj Mahal never got finished.
There was supposed to be across the river from the Taj Mahal.
He wanted one of his own.
Yeah, he wanted a black Taj Mahal.
so all white and then all black one but it never got finished because his sons were like warring
because he had so many wives and you know they all had a bunch of sons and then it was like who's
going to be the next you know emperor like dude uh who is him so they were all fighting his his stuff
never got completed but now they're like thinking of actually completing it and there was
supposed to be like a connecting tomb so that they could like be together forever yeah also i think
there's that thing that like when all these super powerful emperors kings uh rages got to the point
where like i want my legacy to last i'm going to build something so cool that even if you invade my
country you don't want to rip it down i think that was like their thought process behind all that
shit yeah because like even today like uh i think even in world war two they they purposely
didn't try to bomb uh heritage sites yeah people
worship there?
I don't think so.
I think it's just a, like, it's not really a religious thing.
It's just his, uh, his thing for his wife.
The Agia Sophia in Turkey was a Greek Orthodox church that was converted to a mosque.
Yes.
Did that happen to the Taj Mahal?
No, I don't know.
The Hagia Sophia is huge.
when you see that thing
and it was built a long
time ago. Yeah, I think
it's technically
it was built by
Muslims. No, no, no.
The Taj Mahal? It was built by
Constantinople. We're talking about
two different things, sorry. It was
built by the Byzantine
so the Eastern Roman Empire.
Yeah. I'm talking about
the Taj Mahal. Any mausoleum
which is built should be accompanied by a mosque
according to Muslim law
so the Taj Mahal was built with a mosque
okay you can worship at the Taj Mahal
okay
cool
it also flanks a
garbage strewn river
it says here
which which one
the Taj Mahal
no but which which river
is it the Ganges
I don't know
I wanted to do it
what's so crazy
is that there's so many rivers
that stem from the Himalayas
that are religious.
Yes.
I saw one of them
and they were cremating bodies in it.
Yeah.
Everyone just throws dead people in it.
So they weren't throwing just dead bodies in the river
but I actually got to see dead bodies being burnt
on the banks of the river.
Yeah.
And but it was, yeah,
it's like a very sacred river
but you would think they would keep the sacred rivers
a little cleaner because it was like
they go there to kind of like burn their love.
ones in it, but it's also a field of trash. It's kind of sad to see. Have you seen those TikToks
that are like historical places zoomed out? Yeah. It'll show you like a picture of the Taj Mahal
and then a picture of Taj Mahal with that with the river and then there's the pyramids and all these
things and how they look now. It's pretty interesting. Yeah. So the Ganges, the Indus River,
the Yamuna River, all these rivers that are like sacred to Buddhists, Hindus and like the Indus
rivers, like the foundation of civilization, all from the Himalayas.
Yeah.
No, that was very cool to see.
And, hey, I wouldn't mind, like, when I die, I wouldn't mind my body being burnt
on the banks of a river.
And then, like, the ashes drifting down it.
I'd be cool with that.
Blow me up in a rocket ship in space.
You're trying to go to space?
Yeah.
Study me.
If you have 125K, I can get you to space.
Well, don't.
Right now?
Yeah.
Well, in like a year.
You probably have that line around somewhere.
I do have 125K.
Talk to me.
What are we talking about?
Check out the space perspective.
It's like this balloon that goes like right up to the edge of space.
And then you get to hang out there for like four hours and have a cocktail party.
And tickets are only 100, 125K.
You can get faded?
You can get faded on the edge of space.
Yep.
you should get a finder's fee for that
I can put you in touch with the right people
I need to be
I mean
Portnoy could afford that so easily
but I don't think he's the type of guy
that would want to go to space
I mean I'm sure you could probably afford that
Aaron I don't know
I could yeah but
Would it be worth the investment?
No absolutely
I mean there'll be a handful of niggas
in the world who have ever seen space bro
I would love to see space
And you would be up there
sipping cocktails.
Yeah, drinking, having a good recording this shit.
Yeah.
What?
Yo.
Okay.
This is fire.
I'm looking at the...
I think you should do it.
With a camera looking out of window
with the stars behind it.
This is fire.
I'm surprised you would do that, actually.
Space different.
You know what I have the...
Okay, you know how you feel about Jesus, bro?
That's how I feel about space.
You know what I feel about space?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm okay that's that's how I feel about space like like like I feel like that is and this is this is this is like I have no proof of this right that this is how you feel about Jesus how I feel about space it's like I feel like I feel like we are so connected to the universe but we have fucked this up this experiment down here so much that I'm like over it right and so I feel like I feel this um soul pulling don't even believe in souls but soul pulling awe
about space that just grad it led me to like study physics and got into Einstein because of it
because they studied the shit right astrophysics so i i you know independently just research it on
my own for no other reason that i'm just in awe of space and in awe of uh the wonders that it
holds and the things that we haven't discovered yet and the things that we have discovered and the
and the and the beauty of it.
And it's just on every level, I'm fascinated by it.
And if aside from praying to it, like, I feel the awe that you feel about Jesus.
That's how I feel about the universe and space.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Sounds like he's going to space.
I'm definitely going to look into it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm definitely going to look into it.
My, um, my financial planner has this thing.
with his company for all of his clients.
I've never done one.
I'm sure he's going to give me one for this.
But for all of his clients, if they feel like you're about to purchase something stupid,
they make you sign, they have a stupid purchase contract.
And so it's like, they word it really funny.
They're like, this is something that we disagree with.
We don't think that you should buy this, but it is your money.
And so we just want you to sign this so that later on we have proof that we told you this is a stupid purchase.
I'm almost positive
they're going to give me one of these
if I say I want to do this
I wish I had a financial planner like that
that's a good financial planner
that's great
they're the best they're amazing yeah
I think he might be like no man
that sounds sick
you should go do it
yeah but I don't know if
I think the only way
it's worth it is if
I record it
and find out a way to monetize it
in a way that is really dope
right like
yes you could also
logging up there some shit
and we can go on like views
and stuff so we can yeah that would make sense actually yeah and you can maybe find a
sponsor to like chip in for part of it you could raise money for charity somehow i don't know
there's a lot of ways to go about it i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna put this one i'm gonna cook on this one
what's the what's the best stupid purchase contract you've heard of it'd be it'd be mostly
like materials like cars or chains or you know what i'm saying like like
We're a boat.
Shit.
I haven't seen anybody.
This would be the best one.
I think this might be the best.
I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be so good they won't even charge you.
They won't even make you sign the document.
No, it's my money.
I know, I know.
I mean, sorry, not charge you.
I meant like they won't make you sign the document.
I think they might, man.
I think they're going to.
Oh, you can go to space.
That is an experience that's worthwhile.
So also it takes you to the edge of the stratosphere.
So you might not technically be in orbit or in space.
Is this that space?
Is that space that Bezos went to?
No, no.
He actually was up in space.
Bezos was lower than the highest airplane, which I don't count.
Really?
Yeah, I think he was only either 100 feet higher than the highest plane flight.
That doesn't count.
So this you go up 100,000 feet.
highest how how far 100,000 feet okay so the highest plane flight was 76000 so the but I think
the layers go the layers go troposphere which is zero to 10 kilometers stratosphere which is
12 to 50 kilometers mesosphere 50 to 80 kilometers thermosphere 80 to 700 kilometers and exosphere
is the last one and then you out of there so you you will be high enough to confirm that
the world is not flat that's what they should do that's what they should do you know what i will
chipping on this i will chip in on this flatterers that should all get together at their little flat earth
conference they should pick the guy i think eric a dude's name eric holder who makes all those
flat earth videos right man pick the most the most trustworthy anti-government the
Globe is flat
nigga that y'all think
is the real one
pick the one
the chosen one
we all chip in
and send that
motherfucker to
the stratosphere
and have him
report back though
that would be
amazing
no but you know
what they do
it's the same
thing they did
to what's his face
who went across
the Antarctic
Colonel Grady
yeah Collion Gray
he's like
he's like
one of the only
people that
traveled past
the ice wall
that could be
like the earth
surround
I went from
one side of the
earth to the other
by walking
like they just say oh they they compromise them that that that's what it would be
course it would of course yeah they'd be like to see him i would like to see him squirm like
like like i saw i was up there i saw the curve
i think that they justify the curve that since your eyeballs are curved that's why it looks
like it's curved like that's what they said like yeah you think you can see the curvature
of the earth when you look at the ocean but just because your eyeballs are
are round they have a whole bunch of silly shit that they say it's fucking hilarious uh kenzie did you uh did
you do one are you you you're chilling um i had the coliseum um to us man let's do it but yeah it was
built in like as a gift from the emperors at the time to the people because was it i think
it was something had like burned down in that area um
And it's also called, it was like the Flavian emperes.
I don't know if anyone knows how to pronounce that.
But they built it as a gift to the Roman people.
And then they obviously had like the gladiator fights there.
It was free admission if you were like Roman.
But other people like traveling in had to and other like religions had to pay to get in.
there was one thing that I thought was crazy oh so there was 80 entrances and 76 of them were for the general public
and then there was one that was called the gate of life and then there was one that was called the gate of death
and it was basically like the ones who died went through the one gate the gladiators and then the ones that lived went through the other gate
they were on like eastern and western like parts of the um coliseum wild yeah um but yeah and then the
other facts that i found was that the movie gladiator was like offered they gave them permission
to actually film the movie there but the director was like oh it's not i don't think it's like good
enough for the movie to film it at the actual coliseum so they filmed it somewhere else he didn't
like the he didn't like it there i i get what he's saying because have you if you've been to the
coliseum it's it would be hard to set up a movie set there and you probably couldn't get the shots
you wanted because they've excavated most of the bottom like where all the uh trap doors and
stuff were yeah it makes sense it's just funny that they had the permission i'm kind of surprised
they got permission to film it there also they they don't want it to look old they want to
to look like it was.
Right. Like sick, yeah.
And people forget only about 50,000, kind of a small, kind of, kind of mid.
No, dude, that's had to be sick big.
How big is the Boston Garden?
I meant the TD Garden.
Like 20, but that's an indoor.
And you got to understand they were definitely pack in the place.
I mean, how many stadiums do we have in this country that are bigger than 50,000?
We have a hundred.
40, like 30, 40.
Oh, there's 100?
Oh, wait.
mean all big time college football teams are way bigger than 50 all the NFL yep what's the
smallest NFL stadium the bills I don't know how big it is but it's bigger than 50 okay
but yeah Coliseum couldn't compete in this era but the Coliseum could do
naval battles yeah that's yeah that is that is right it yeah we can't do that I would
love to watch that. If you go to like
a football stadium, they have a mock naval
battle there.
You should do that.
Dude, that'd be so cool.
What if, uh,
Coltseam was also sick because that was like the birthplace of
all like sports,
basically, in spectator sports.
It's soldier field.
Soldier field is the smallest stadium. It holds
61,000. That's right.
That one is small because the whole one
side doesn't have like an upper deck.
really oh because it's glass yeah it's like that yeah yeah yeah but i remember i played there
i remember thinking it was i felt like it was bigger than that damn would you have any moral
qualms against like watching a man fight a lion i feel like billy wouldn't just gonna be honest
i it felt like going i would love i said this multiple times i would love to take a time machine
just to go be part of the crowd there and watch mostly because i wanted to see
they definitely did some great animal
matchups. Like, you know how we debate who would win a
gorilla or a bear? They definitely
had a gorilla fight a bear. Actually, I don't know
how you transport a gorilla.
Bear versus tiger, I'm sure they have.
Yeah, bear versus tiger. Like, all
the like matchups you'd want to see. They were definitely
doing them. Like, we just talk about them.
They were about it. They're like, let's go, let's go
get a tiger from one end of the empire
and a bear from the other end of the empire. Let's make them
fight. Like that, that's sick.
Yeah. I don't have any moral
qualms about that. We should do that now, honestly.
That's the fire.
Yeah, I only have moral qualms about
like how they used to
gather around and watch someone be
burnt at the stake.
That was one of the events.
Well, that's just what they used to do.
Well, no, but even in
Europe too, like public
executions were like one of the biggest
spectator events. And it's like,
yeah, I don't want to just show up and watch
someone get killed. I'd rather show up
and watch people fight. Yeah. And
then, yeah, probably someone gets killed.
At least then there's, at least then someone can put up a fight.
Huh.
Yeah, like I would like to see a gorilla and a bear go at it.
Like, I think we should do that.
Just for scientific purposes, I think the bear will whoop his ass, but just to put the
debate to rest, you know what I'm saying?
I don't even think it would be close, to be honest.
I don't think it would be close.
I don't think it depends on how the, like, if the gorilla gets weapons, I think it's a whole
different thing.
But can't a gorilla use weapons?
I say gorilla with a sword or a spear wins every time.
I mean, this isn't Disney.
Does the gorilla know how to use a sword?
Well, they can kill monkeys with spears.
Chimpanzees can.
But I think a better matchup would be polar bear, Siberian tiger.
That would be.
That would be insane.
I think a polar bear would win.
Yeah, I mean, the polar bear, I think the polar bear is bigger.
But the Siberian tiger is still, like, one of the, is like, the large.
just wait wait polar bear
versus siberian tiger
that's the one thing probably there's a lot of propaganda um out there with animals
the one thing that we kind of feel for is that uh lions
can fight with tigers they can't tigers be oh tigers be getting in that ass
but apparently we're so wrong polar bears easily beat tigers
it's it's like not it's not even comparable polar bear
so can get to nine feet tall on their hind legs.
Siberian tigers can only get to 6-6.
Tigers are faster,
but bears have a bigger bite force,
more teeth,
claws are same size.
But weight statistics,
they're like 1,500 pounds.
Siberian tigers only get to 700.
So that's like a polar bear is double the size of Siberian tiger.
I think we just really doubt,
how big polar bears are how about a polar bear and a hippo that's that that's another great
that's a great match up that is a great that's that's what i wish they would do now i'm thinking
about it i'll take a hippo over any mammal on this planet except for like you know blue whale
or shit like that i ain't talking about them a blue whale versus hippo polar bear versus hippo swallow
that a hippo would win a fight against polar bear that's what they're saying on a to z animals
there's a
can hippos
can hippos like
I know they can move
but are they quit
like are they fast?
Yeah they're fast really
there's like
sneaky fast
they really have no flaws
man they're they're big
they're aggressive
they're charitorial
they have fat on them
to protect them from
cuts
I just know Fiona
the hippo
they can get to
Cincinnati Zoo
they can get to 10,000 pounds
and their skin
10,000
yeah their skin is so thick
they have
like almost zero impenetrable parts of their body the only place is that so even scavengers when
the hippo's dead for a while the only place they can get to before the skin starts to split uh from
rotting and bloat is like they have to go through the back uh that's the only way they can get to the
innards okay yeah through the uh other end of the digestive system i'm looking at a baby right now
it's so cute i don't think i've ever seen a baby hippo it says here the coliseum would have
really yeah they would sometimes have a hippo fight a rhino oh my god i still got the hippo i think
i got the hippo yeah i think i think i still got the hippo too hippo verse rhino but i don't know if the rhino
gets a good shot with the horn the thing is i don't know if the rhino horde could pierce
whereas like a hippo could like crunch your face oh wait there's i'm looking at a video right now
Hippo learns lessons from Rhino
Let's I'm going to send to the group
I'm narrating it. Rhino hippo opens his mouth
Rhino backs it down
Oh, rhino sticks horn
into hippo's mouth
Oh, that's actually
That's something we didn't take into account because the hippo just
Opened his mouth real big
And the rhino just stuck the horn
Actually I'm this is
Okay then the hippo ran away
Yeah
The rhino just would hit the hippo
in it's the middle of its mouth
and the hippos like screw this
oh the hippo just took a bite out of the rhinos
butt and the rhino turned around
and once again
got the hippo in the mouth with its horn
I think we're not taking account the fighting style
of the hippo which is literally just open mouth
and try to chomp like hungry hungry hippo style
yeah if it tries to chomp on the horn it's fucked
hippo's closest relatives are pigs
I don't probably take good at hell
I didn't know that
Hippo meat's actually popular
In Africa
Didn't really know that either
Yeah
There's a I saw a deep web video
Of like there was a like a guerrilla
Like a militant group
In
Like a Coney 2012 group with RPGs
And the RPG to hippo
I mean that wouldn't preserve a lot of the meat
I know, but I think they're just doing it for shits and gigs.
Yeah, I mean, in Cambodia, you can pay to RPG a cow.
Yeah.
Which is super fucked up.
So I think if you're, you know, if the merchant of death drops off a bunch of RPGs at your door,
you're going to, you know, pop them off to test them out.
Why not on the hippos who are running up on your camp?
I would try a hippo.
Hippo meat's probably.
It seems like you can say it's the pig's cousin.
It's probably, it's probably right.
apparently whale meat is gross
I wrote a blog
we almost used the
the swamps of the south
as a hippo ranch
we almost yeah this was like
Teddy Roosevelt was totally in on it
let me look up this blog I wrote a long time ago
the USA
was going to they had to feed
all the new immigrants coming in
in the northeast and they need a new food source
because they didn't think cattle
we're going to be able to do it.
And they're like, how can we develop these swamp lands in the south in order to feed people
because you can't have any livestock there?
And they're like, let's get hippos.
And the only reason it didn't happen was because of the meat processing plants in Kansas City
because it was harder to transport hippos.
And those like unions and low-key mafia in Kansas City.
And from all the meatpacking district, like Chicago, all like those big meat cities were like,
you can't put a processing plant down south to process the hippo meat.
They were about to just start shipping them in.
They were in front of Congress.
Like there was a bill signed.
And they're like basically they like lobbied Congress to not allow another meat packaging plant down south
because they said that it was too hot and would cause disease,
which is probably true.
But like we were that close to having hippo ranches.
If the hippos got out, which they would eventually.
we'd be kind of fucked
I mean it's happening
in Columbia right now
Teddy Roosevelt
almost put hippos
in the bayou
it was a blog I wrote
like two years ago
and only got eight comments
no one really cared
like it's just so fascinating
but like only eight people
yeah
didn't get enough views
but you should go look at it
well I thought that was a great
interesting topic really
thank you
can I shout out
one last wonder.
Yeah.
Tenoctit Lahn.
Oh, yeah.
The capital of the Aztecs.
I just love it because it's the only city I know of that was kind of just built on an island in the middle of a lake.
And then it had three bridges that connected the city to the banks of the lake.
And when the Spanish conquistadors found it, like it was larger than most cities in Europe.
Like it was larger than London and Paris at that time.
So they must have been like, Jesus Christ.
Because at first when they arrived in the Caribbean, they were just like, all right,
it's all these pretty primitive people.
And then they keep on exploring and eventually find a city bigger than all of the cities back in Spain.
Like that has to be insane.
City of gold.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, yeah, it was all destroyed.
And then they filled in the lake.
And that's where Mexico City is now today.
Yeah.
there was
outside at the Aztec temples
I think around there in Mexico
a woman recently ran up the steps
which you weren't allowed to do anymore
and went to the top and took an Instagram
and then everyone around her just started
booing the hell out of her
let me find the video
and like when she got down
everyone just beat the shit out of her
there was a tourist who
climbed up the pyramids too
and like posted it on YouTube
people are furious you can get arrested for that shit can't you like in throwing in jail like a long
time yeah he just like ran up to the top i wonder if he did get put in jail um have you guys ever
seen videos of the ball game they used to play like the aztecs and the mines used to play with
the head oh yeah with the heads uh not no this was with like a rubber ball but i i think the
losing team sometimes killed yeah at the end but
It looks like the hardest game to play ever.
Like you have to get it through a hoop,
but instead of a basketball hoop, which is flat,
this was like a basketball hoop on its side.
And you can't use your hands or feet.
So you're trying to hit it through the small hole,
I guess just using your knees or hips or maybe your elbows.
But I would love to see people play that in like modern day.
Whoa.
Looks fucking hard.
I haven't seen that video
Send me that video
Yeah because I think they did like a modern
Modern
Reenactment of the game
I'll sign it to you
When like
They was trying to get buckets
Yeah you are trying to get a bucket
But it just feels so unnatural
Not being able to use your feet or hands
You got to be wildly coordinated
yeah i think sometimes the loser of that game would be sacrificed
that would suck you know that's wild bear
yeah we've came a long way man still do some silly shit but we have came a long way
you got to put something on the line
i mean when there's no league or whatever
play for keeps
got to play for keeps baby
i bet i bet some folks got real good at that game
i mean
boom a bust
that's to get it in
alright man
um
does anybody got any
got anything else man
uh we got voicemails if you want to do
we got to we got to choose the new modern
wonders of the world right right right
pft
yeah pft quickly put in the group chat
the bass pro shop pyramid is his
new modern wonder of the world
all right
Billy do you have one
Mine's Vegas. I think Vegas.
Just as a city?
It's a connection of multiple casinos that has underground places and stuff.
But the only reason I'm saying it's a wonder of the world is that let's say every important city and let's say there's a huge nuclear attack, Vegas is very unlikely to be bombed.
Because of that, it has so many.
And this is going to sound stupid.
But it has so many cultural, architectural,
artistic and
parts of it from so many different cultures
that I think is a perfect
encapsulation of like preserving
history. It has like
Roman influence
like the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, but like think about it.
It's such a microcosm of so many cultures
from across the world. But it's caricatures of all those things.
Right. But if like the thing is people thought the same thing about
Renaissance paintings. They're like, oh, it's just
copies of the OG classical's
like this is like cheap compared to that
like because it's
it's like fast like think about it
but now that's all we have yeah like
when Florence was making all this new
art they were like oh
this is just ripoffs
of the like the Greek stuff
and the Roman stuff from
1400 years ago like you
but like if you think about it we're closer
to the Renaissance than
the Renaissance was to the Greeks and Romans
so like that art like that art like that
artwork like because if you go into caesar's palace or like into like all these different like they
have implements of the architecture like there's there's every example of venetian yeah like there's
different types of columns like there's doric ionic like it's a in not only just western
architecture or there's like all sorts of uh i forget the exact ones but uh like all these
different casinos have all these different pieces of architecture
i like in paris there's like
like Paris, Paris.
But why would it be a world, world wonder, though?
Because it's all connected and it's got, you know, the mini empire state, many, uh, they
actually do have a mini empire state building and they have a Eiffel Tower.
I don't know.
It sounds stupid, but like literally, if everything else gets destroyed, it'll be the only
artifact that, like, remained.
They're currently making, they're currently making a huge ball, right?
Yeah.
So your theory is if everything gets destroyed, Vegas.
except for Vegas
Vegas would be the world wonder
yeah basically
it just has everything
it will have the only things
yeah
I love it man
that's what it is
Big T what you got bro
the yard house in Times Square
much like the Taj Mahal
it is a glimmering
shiny
what's the word
I'm looking for
an oasis in a desert if you will
Ah like Vegas
Amongst amongst a place you really don't want to find yourself
There's one beam of hope
What about the Margaritaville there
I've never been to a Margaritaville so I can't attest
But it is right across the street
So we'll just say that block
I believe it's 40th and 7th
Yeah
Arrian what's yours
Mine is
Iowasco
And like DMT in general, just the, the chemical composition.
I think that should be a world wonder.
It should be studied more than it already is.
I think it is a gateway, well, I'm going to enter in the philosophy zone.
I think it's a gateway to our connectivity, to the oneness of the universe.
And, yeah, I just think it's something that it's naturally growing that needs to be more looked at.
and preserved.
Have you done it?
No, I have not done it.
I haven't been in the right, what I would say, physical state.
I want to be in, like, top physical shape in order to do it.
Like, I'm all built and cut.
I just want to have, because, like, a lot of times when I take any kind of substances
that get me absent or, you know, any kind of psychoactive substances, I have an analytical
mind.
And so if something fills off, it'll, like, be a cycle of, like, something's wrong.
You know what I'm saying?
And so, like, I'm not in the right state to do it, do it, but I'm going to, for sure.
I like that.
Mackenzie, do you know what?
I, well, like, I did mine, like, completely as a joke.
Like, it wasn't actually, like.
They did Vegas, man.
Yeah, I know.
I was, I was, like, trying to think of.
Yeah, well, yeah.
So I was, like, trying to think of, does anyone watch the show Vanderpump rules?
Yes.
so there's like all this drama going on with it but there's this like one like thing that keeps coming up so this
remind me of there's like this alleyway that's behind the restaurant that all the waiters and waitresses would like go back there and all the drama would like happen there and so I was going to say like the back alleyway behind the restaurant sir because it's like just very iconic I I recently figured out what that show was about their waiters
No, but it was a, it's about a restaurant that was owned by another reality star.
Yeah, Lisa Vanderpump, yeah.
Which is like two degrees of separation from reality, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's a, yeah, it's a reality show about a reality star that has a restaurant.
Yeah, it's a reality show, but the show isn't really about the reality star.
She's not, no, yeah, she's not the main, like person.
It's about the waiters that she's hired.
I know, but it would be like...
She's a minor character.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
That is nuts.
Yeah, it is funny.
The Andy Cohen pipeline.
What you got, Mandy?
I mean, much to no one's surprise, I've chosen.
Just the string of Ohio rest stops along Route I-Aiding.
Just, I don't know what else I could possibly say that would encapsulate that better.
Yeah, probably those.
Like, but like how the Great Wall of China is like a whole like sweeping, you know, miles long thing.
Just how that like how that is like not one restop, but just like the whole set up.
Love it.
Yeah.
Love it.
Donnie, did you do, did you go already?
No, I didn't go just thinking out of the top of my head.
I'd probably say the line in Saudi Arabia if they ever build it.
Yeah.
That was that like nine mile building that we talked about.
that's just going to be one long line.
They are building it, right?
Yeah, they made the foundations.
Who knows if they'll complete it?
But, I mean, that will be insane if it gets built.
That's crazy, the upkeep alone.
I have another.
The AC costs.
What's the opposite of a wonder, like a horror?
Yeah, horrors of the modern world are travesties.
Yeah, well.
Would that be the opposite of wonder, though?
I don't know.
Because wonder is like a mystery, so wouldn't it be something very well known?
Or Vegas?
What do you think is a horror?
It's that freaking thing in Hudson Yards that everyone kept jumping off?
Oh, the vessel.
That actually, Philly, you're kind of, yeah.
Yeah, that one's, yeah.
Like, what the fuck?
They literally had to close it because.
I was going to say you can't go up it anymore.
Yeah.
People who used to go up it, like, jump.
Totally fine, just jump, just randomly.
Yeah.
fathers with pushing strollers just say fuck it and jump like father pushing a
stroller jumped are you sure really wait so now you think it's like possessed i don't know i don't
know from but from the sounds of it what i've heard like just people go up there they're totally
fine and then yeah being the architect of that must suck yeah you're like i got such a sweet
commission to build this in new york it's going to be great everyone's going to be admiring my work
and people just used to kill themselves.
That is tough.
Put a trampoline at the bottom.
Honestly.
I went to school in Ithaca and Cornell.
There was like such a high suicide rate
because I guess the students were like so stressed.
They had to put nets under bridges
to like catch people
because they were like jumping off so often.
Same with the iPhone.
factories in China.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
I think so.
Jeez.
Well.
I have some voice emails if we want to do those to end on a little bit of a lighter
note.
Yeah, let's do that.
Also, all of the voicemails today are like Big T's fan club came to play today.
Oh, love that.
Shout out.
All of them really.
So excited.
Okay.
Yet T.
That's when I'm going to start calling them.
Hey, this is Lee from Texas.
Hope you're all doing great, all looking handsome, Maddie, gorgeous.
My question is for Big T.
I don't know how the fuck you didn't make it to the NFL,
or not even the NFL, you didn't even make, like, play college football with your frame.
Like, if I was a scout and I saw you just, like, walking down the street,
I'd be like, like, the blinds.
Okay, wait, you can turn it off.
Mad dog, this is not a fan club.
This is just a guy asking why I sucked at football.
No, wait.
I thought he was like, but you looked like you could be good.
No, that's the worst.
That's worse.
That's what people who also weren't good at football say, but they're like, oh, if I was your
size, I would have been so good.
No, that could, no.
Oh, sorry.
That was bad.
Is that like asking a tall person, like, oh, I didn't play basketball?
Yes.
Okay, sorry, I didn't read it like that.
I didn't mean it.
A fair critique though
You see a motherfucker walking around
How did you not become a professional football player?
Yeah
But I'm saying
You see a motherfucker walking around at 6-8 in the airport
You're like, come on, fan
You should a hoop though
Like that's a lay-up
That's a little
No point attendant
Yeah one of my best guy friends
From college is 6-7
And does not have much of an athletic
bone in his body
6-7 yeah
Because there's super athletic 6-7 people
He's like 6-7-180
like yeah there's like a string bean yeah but if you're like I think over six nine six 10
that's when it's like you have to learn yeah you're tall enough yeah you're tall enough
where your athleticism can easily be made up for it with height uh to answer the question
how did I not become a professional football player I don't know it's hard that's how did you play
in high school yeah yeah I wasn't very good yeah but some people don't want to play in college
because it takes up your whole life.
So if you know you're like...
Oh, it was not...
That choice was made for me.
Okay.
But yeah, I mean, it's hard.
That's the answer.
You're a turn-style.
But I think it would be rough to be like,
okay, I'm good enough to play in college,
but I'm definitely not good enough to go pro.
So do you want to dedicate your entire college experience
to playing ball when you know there's no chance
you're going to go pro at the end?
Billy?
Yeah, that's called D3 football.
Well, no, but like, there's a lot of like D1 kids
that don't go pro.
Yeah.
I mean, scholarships.
Yeah, then you just say, okay, I'm taking advantage of the academic part of this.
Yeah.
There's a bunch of dudes I went to college with like that.
I mean, one of the homies actually, Adam Myers-White, shout out to the homie.
He was a lineback.
He's like a four or five-star.
And knew pretty early.
He was like, I don't really want to do ball.
And he's actually a medical doctor now.
He's a doctor.
So he used his shit to get his master's.
And I think he might have a PhD.
I don't know.
But he's definitely a doctor now, MD.
Nice.
Okay.
well, sorry, Big T, I didn't mean it as an insult.
That's fine.
Okay, hold on.
Yeah, she set him up, though, buttering him up nice and good.
Yeah, what the hell?
No, all of them mentioned you today.
And then there was more that I didn't put in.
All of them today were like, oh, like Big T, this, big T, that.
And then I was like, what's going on?
Yeah, apparently they were all just talking shit.
And she was like, oh.
No, Mad Dog doesn't understand that quite.
Like, I could see how she thought that was a compliment.
Yeah, like, in my brain, I was like, oh, Big T has like an athletic football player
build.
I don't know.
I didn't mean it.
I didn't mean it with harm.
Anyways.
All right.
Next one.
What's up?
Macro dosing podcast?
I'm Gabe from Little Rock, Arkansas.
First off, I'd like to defend PFT on the bath condondrum that happened on last week's episodes.
Even though showers are required due to time constraints, bath and beat are superior.
The health benefits from a cold or hot bath alone outweigh showers tremendously.
I stand with you, King.
Second, I'm curious to know.
if each one of you have a toxic trait that you can think of anything you good i didn't what i couldn't
he asked if uh if you have a toxic trait that you can identify in yourself oh absolutely
yeah i have one yeah i'll go first i um i'm extremely judgmental i um i'm extremely judgmental
and for the most part
I'm lack of days of cool on this podcast
so like when I'm bantering with y'all
the shit it comes out you know what I'm saying
like I just shoot you know what I'm saying
but that's when I love you
when I'm comfortable to do that
it means I love you
but there are times
when I meet strangers
I don't have a capacity to give a fuck
and so like I just say what I feel
like and it's extremely toxic
and in my latter years I've gotten way better
but early on I was very combative
I just didn't care like I said I would tell you
how I felt and I would judge the shit out of you and it was bad.
The end.
I feel like, though, like so many people are judgmental.
Yeah, but I let you know.
Yeah, that's true.
I feel like you do it, but like you do, yeah.
I'm a kind human.
Like, I've done a lot of self-work.
Yeah, you're nice though.
Yeah, I'm really nice.
Like, I really am.
But there was a time in my life where the world wasn't so kind to me and I let it be known.
Like, I would, like, I'm really good at talking.
shit. Like, I'm good. I'm good off the hip. I'm witty. And so that is a absolute weapon either
way. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could use it to diffuse a situation or ignite a situation.
And a lot of times when I was growing up, I would ignite a situation all the time because I could
say shit that could just cut. Like, damn, bro. Like, why would you say that? Like, you know
how to find, like, people's buttons to push. Yeah, I put, yeah, I push buttons so. And I know
how I know what gets on the people's skin. I'm really good at compartmentalizing personalities.
And so I was really good at, like, just talking shit.
Like, I could, I could, I could figure out what you uncomfortable with and make you hurt.
It was not, like I said, it's toxic.
I understand.
But I'm way better now.
I'm a kind human now.
Anyone?
I think, um, I, I asked my girlfriend and she said, you think you're right all the time, but you usually are.
I think that, that, that's just a double entendre of your toxic.
I think I do know that's what she said I do know something if I if there's an argument whether with her or with somebody else and I know like like it both people have come to the realization that I am right I will milk it and like act very upset and like prolong the the win you take a victory let yes
Yeah. And, like, even if it's something that doesn't really bother me, I'll pretend that it really did and be like, yeah, that, that, like, really upset me, whatever.
That's something I do sometimes. I guess that's relatively toxic.
Bill?
I got a lot of toxic traits. I mean, people have seen them.
Do you want to name one?
But, like, you not backtracking a source isn't toxic.
Yeah. I would like to know what you're real tough.
Yeah. Like in your day-to-day.
I get stubborn, of course. I will just like go like I'll just keep on budding heads with people just because I don't know come up. Like I don't know why I do. I just probably believe I'm right. And maybe and this is I don't always believe that I am right even if I am. Some people just think they're always right.
but also I'm self-destructive in ways
that's probably
I'm coming down from magic
Mad honey right now
Magic honey that's the way better name
Yeah no I actually speaking of
I think I had a little bit of a giggle fit
Yeah I know now I'm back
I got really spacey for a good five minutes
I like didn't even I couldn't even like
I think you were very paranoid at first
Yeah I was I wish I got a lot
to it a little better, I would have had a little more fun.
Yes.
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Donnie, do you have a toxic trait?
Oh, I was going to say I still suffer from FOMO, which I feel like at age 35 I shouldn't
still be dealing with.
And that, I feel like that's a toxic thing to still care about at my age.
I was also going to say, Arrian, your toxic trait would probably make you a,
very good freestyle battler or like a battle rapper have you ever considered getting into that
could be we used to have um cyphers at lunch i was nice because it was that's what you do you cut
talk about their jeans talking about their girls talking about that yeah so that's kind of
using your toxic trait for good or i don't know if for good but that's uh a positive outlet
yeah yeah it was cool well i think i think actually
uh writing in general does that because it allows you to kind of put your thoughts on paper
and i'll be it judgmental or not it allows you to see and and uh kind of gauge how you view
the world mm-hmm yeah actually probably i'm hyper competitive too to a fault yeah
where it's kind of like what the fuck dude i'm like shit sorry do you get really really
competitive at your basketball games?
Yes.
Big T.
Pal.
I mean, we told the story on the show of him, like, throwing a guy to the ground.
Okay, that was, he was hooking me.
So if you don't want to get thrown to the ground, don't hold on to the thing that's
throwing you to the ground.
Yes, Billy is the most competitive person in that league by a substantial margin.
Everyone gets competitive.
I just won't let you get a rebound because I know I can out rebounds.
Almost everybody.
So yes.
almost everybody no dude i i i got it down to a science it's just one of those things where i like
i i wasn't you know i couldn't jump the highest i could like i don't know like parts of my game
you know i was an effort guy so but i knew i could fucking set a good box out and get a rebound
so then i just like try to get every rebound let's see it a little dennis robin yeah
we got another i'm actually going to play after this and thank god the
Mad Honey didn't fuck me up because my boys would have been pissed.
I have a group chat with random dudes who I meet playing pickup and they text me to come play because of my rebounding skills.
Not to brag.
I'm happy for you, man.
My toxic trait is that I am a really, really chronic dilly dallyer.
Oh.
Like really, really bad.
Is that like a procrastinator?
But that's not toxic.
It is for me and the people around me.
Like I, in college and high school, I was a huge procrastinator.
And now that I don't know, like, homework, it has, well, I've always been a dilly dallyer,
but, like, it's translated just, like, my personal life in terms, like,
for example, like, in high school, I would have gymnastics practice from, like, 6 to 9.30.
And then I would come home at, like, 10 p.m.
And I would, like, I would go to shower, but I would just end up.
up like sitting on the bathroom floor for like 45 minutes before I would get in the shower
and just like sit there and just take a beat I think that's self-care man dudes do that a lot
is that a thing uh I don't know if we sit on the bathroom floor yeah like I would just sit there
in my towel and just and I just could not bring myself to get in the shower or like if I like even now
like in my professional life,
I have to work up so early in the morning
because I can't do,
I have to give myself a two hours in the morning
just to show up here.
Yeah.
Not like I'm getting ready,
but I'll come over my workout.
I'll sit for 35 minutes.
And then I'll shower.
Then I sit for 20 minutes.
That's meant just say it's meditation.
Yeah.
That's good.
No, I mean, located.
I do that in the shower.
So I won't do it outside of that.
In the shower, I would literally just sit in the shower and let the water run on me and not do shit for about 30 minutes.
See, I have a gross, like, my New York City apartment doesn't.
Water and just kind of like, you know, I do that too.
Water's kind of stairs in Texas.
Don't you have one of those musical showers?
Not my problem.
Don't you have two stouts?
Aaron, you're richer shower is probably way better than mine.
Mine's about the size of my chair.
I should give you a video tour.
My shower is fucking fire.
Not even going to lie.
It's stunning with almost that shit is.
fly I got two of the sprouts and then I have two things where you can like turn it on
and it becomes like a little jet thing and every now and then you can just you know do you have a sauna
no no do you have a cold plunge I have a hot tub okay it's crazy how popular cold plunges have
become yeah I want to do one I want to see what it would do for me oh cold plunges are amazing
What do they do for you?
I mean, it literally, anti-inflammatory.
I mean, that makes sense.
Like, it's nerve, it like helps your brain so much.
Is that the same as, like, would a cold shower give me the same results or no?
Yeah.
Anabolicly.
Or is it because I'm plunging?
It raises your tea.
I don't want to raise my tea, Billy.
Well, you.
I mean, that's for this tea, bro.
No, I mean, 900.
Triple the amount of.
Will Comptons.
We found that out.
No.
Maybe it will raise her eating.
Pippa.
I didn't violate HIPAA.
I got it checked by a lawyer.
No, it's, but like, I don't know, it's good for your metabolism.
Like, it's insane how good it is for you.
Yeah.
Some people are like, I was really anxious and depressed, and then I started cold plunging now.
Like, I feel perfectly fine.
They act like it's a cure all.
Like, I think a lot of people realize they get to the point in their life where they're like,
oh, shit, I have to do shit to make sure my mental health.
It's okay.
Self care.
Yeah.
Like I kind of hit that, I kind of hit that realization in college and wasn't taking care of that sort of stuff.
And came out of college being like, I need to, you know, work out and do this.
Or I'm either going to be totally spaced out or just feel shitty.
I mean, if I don't work out, like I work out every morning before work, if I don't work out before work, I can feel a mental difference in the way I perform at work.
Yeah.
If I don't work out versus when I do.
do work out. If I, yeah, on Mondays, after we record part of my take away late, if I don't get up, like, run, do a bunch of shit, like, get a, like, basically two hour workout in, I won't be able to operate the rest of the week. I'll be like, until I get that two hours of just, like, getting my shit ready. Which is never how I was, like, in college or whatever, but I think now just being having a job, I'm like, I need to jumpstart my days. Because especially here, you don't have to be here at a certain time. So, like, there's, there's not, like, a
deadline being like I have me at work at 9 a.m.
So it's like I need
a time to tell me to get up
so I get up and go do something.
So it's like if I book a workout class for 7 a.m.,
I got to go at 7 a.m.
Yeah.
And then they kind of scheduled that
the rest of my day.
Big Cat said that squatting is like a drug.
Oh yeah, 100%.
It's the most anabolic movement.
Did you say that recently?
Yeah.
He just started working out again.
Because like I will work out sometimes
but I've never squatted
and then right before I was
I was going to be doing the track up to base camp
I was like shit I'm going to be using my legs
I should try to squat I'm fucking horrible at it
but it did feel good to squat a few times
I squatted this morning
and the only reason I tried the wild honey
is that I knew that I'm in the right headspace
to try the honey
because like
that's like when I love you
like microdosing is squat days
okay I'm going to have to start squatting more
or boxing I don't have a squat rack though
can I use this one yeah okay nice
I'm gonna start coming in early and hitting some squats in here
yeah it's sick
but if you like really get into squatting like I remember in college
I was really into squatting like when we were like putting up
crazy numbers in the off season like I put 475 pounds on my back
and after completing that squat it was like the most insane rush ever
when I did a squat
I realized that there are muscles in my legs
I haven't used in years
yeah
dude I got my dad into kettlebell squats
because he's a little older
and he says that he feels 20 years younger
really okay
yeah
because it gets all your muscles going
it's anabolic it makes your hormones
kick into gear your metabolism
I'm going to try to
squat signs
I think I'm going to try to start
I'm on this whole health kick now
aka I said I want to do something
off. But I think
I want to start lifting.
I think a new
apartment I might be getting soon
would have a gym at it.
And then I could like lift
because I don't have anywhere to lift right now.
Yeah. A lot of girls
don't lift because I'm going to get big.
No, but it... No, the anabolic
like for your brain is sick.
Why did you just randomly take a shot
at all female? I didn't. I didn't. But like
it's a classic misconception. Like
a lot of girls do say like I don't want to get beefy.
if I lift.
Like, no, you should lift.
It actually burns more fat than all the crazy amounts of cardio that some girls.
I'm just, I'm generalizing.
Like, your spin class might not burn as much fat as doing an hour of lifting weights.
See, but I like my spin class more just in terms of enjoyment.
It depends on what kind of weights, though, too.
It depends on what kind of, like, what you're doing.
And also depends on what they're trying to do.
Are they trying to gain?
Are they trying to get thick?
Are they trying to lose weight in general
And all that shit depends
Yeah
That's like
Yeah
Also why a lot of people don't work out
It's because
It's just too much shit
Everybody has different opinions
And everybody has different
And so it's overwhelming
The information could be overwhelming
It is
You just be like
Oh you know what fuck it
I'm not doing it
Because it's like
Am I doing this right
Am I not doing the right
I would just say
As a baseline
If you don't know what you're doing
find out what burns and just do 30 minutes of burn you know what I mean if it's a bench press
if it's a squat if it's its abs find out something that burns just if it burns generally a good
thing yeah it just feels overwhelming to start like I don't know where to start yeah that's the
heart especially and like lifting like boys are so scary the gym and like then they're
looking at you I think that could be your toxic
too you think a lot of boys are trying to kill you yeah yeah actually i feel like every time i talk
about yeah well actually i probably think that's probably saved my life but that's a good one that's a
that's a best of that's a response i feel like every time donnie's on here i talk about how i i think i'm
to die no no i mean yeah i think that's no i think that's something i take for for granted like
the toxic trade is that men are killing women that's the toxic trade yeah being a
yeah like if a girl starts like
like following me on the way home i'm not like oh shit she's about to kill me odds are she's not
yeah i'm i'm paranoid i'm pretty paranoid too i get it yeah no i'm i'm i think everyone's gonna
kill me there was an uber eats driver behind me the other day and he was just trying to get
past me but he was running and i thought i i had to grip onto scaffolding because i thought he was
going to come get me.
I don't hate that.
I don't hate that.
Well, uh, I think that does it for voicemails, huh?
Yeah.
Sweet.
Awesome.
Glad to be back from my, from the Himalayas.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me on.
Thanks for coming.
Always, always.
One time, Don is always welcome, dogs.
Um, yeah, so PFT will be back next episode.
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are we doing a science fair I'm going to ask you all that
we are coming up
actually I guess we can say that
we don't have an exact day yet but this
summer we're doing another science fair
I love to see it yeah I can't wait for that shit
yeah because that one did well
and Billy's already nailed down what experiment he's going to do
I'm going to put water in a condom
I have a couple I have a couple
I'm going to do an exhibit
on Mad Honey.
Did you join you some more?
I will do more on Friday.
Look at him.
He was scared to take a half a teaspoon.
Didn't hit like he wanted it to.
Now he wants it more.
I'm with you, though.
All right, man.
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