Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Aliens (Part 1) ft. Harvey Levin

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

On today's episode you'll hear our take on Aliens, UFOs and all of the above. A two part series that includes TMZ's Harvey Levin on this episode and Barstool's own, Zah, on the next. Are aliens real...and if they are why is the footage always so bad? Why have they always been hush hush until now? Find out all of this and more on the show. 1:00 Scott Peterson 5:50 "The Excavator" 10:00 Dogs, again. 17:30 John McAfee 32:00 Aliens Talk Starts With The Pentagon 42:00 Arian on The NBA 53:00 Neil deGrasse Tyson Tweets 1:06:00 Reptilian Humanoids 1:11:00 Aliens or Russia? 1:20:00 Harvey Levin 1:51:00 Best Alien MoviesYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Welcome back to macrodosing. It's the only podcast available online on all forms of the internet. If you got the internet, you got podcasting, you got macrodosing. It's the only thing that you can listen to. So thank you for tuning in. We got the whole squad here today.

We got everyone, Big T's back in the office. Billy's here. We got Mad Dog 2020s here. Avery, Arian, and Coley, all in the same kind of room together. So it's good to see everybody today. We're going to be getting to aliens, some deep dive shit. We talk with Harvey, Harvey Levin from TMZ. And then we're also going to be talking with Zah,

a martial sports employee producer. And he has an actual first person encounter with aliens that we're going to get into. So this is going to be like a two-parter. We're going to release the first part because we don't trust you guys to hit Paul. in the middle and save some for the week of the 4th of July. We're going to drop it in two parts. First part is coming out today because you're listening to it. And then part two.

I think we'll probably, you want to do part two as ah? Yeah. All right, part two will be a bizarre. That'll come out next Tuesday at the regularly scheduled time. But we're not going to sit down and record another episode. We'll be too busy celebrating. As Homer Simpson put it, celebrating our great nation by blowing up a small piece of it with fireworks. So that is the plan moving.

forward here. But yeah, we got the whole squad. And right off the bat, I think that we should discuss, well, Big T just came back from Omaha and a new Scott Peterson news just dropped. Scottie P. is back. He is back. Scottie P. Is he actually getting, is he off death row now? Is that what the news is? Well, no. So the California Supreme Court had overturned his death sentence a few months ago, I think. But now there was a juror who, a woman who eagerly sought to be a juror in the murder trial of Scott Peterson and who voted to sentence him to death, committed a misconduct by not disclosing. She had been a victim of a crime. New details show juror seven failed to disclose her boyfriend beat her in 2001 while she was pregnant. It was previously revealed that she failed

to disclose while pregnant with another child. She obtained a restraining order against that boyfriend's ex-girlfriend, whom she feared would hurt her unborn child. So, Scott, Peterson's lawyers are angling for a new trial and apparently the judge is considering that right now okay so this woman could you charge this woman with murder if scott peterson had been put to death would it be like now she's a murder or two i just we y'all don't have to go but if scott peterson gets a new trial if i have to pay for it myself i'm there start to finish i think you should become the nancy grace i will be there from the day one until the day the day the bird Rick is red. I will be in Northern California.

It wasn't Nancy Grace. She was like calling, she made her bones off Casey Anthony, right? And she kept calling her like, Tot Mom. The Tot Mom. The Top Mom's on trial. We should have Big T. Do like, what would Scott Peterson be? The wife, the wife guy. Sure. Yeah. Wife guy. Scott Peterson. He's innocent. Yeah. I think that'd be, I would, that'd be fun. That would be fun. Just go there for the whole trial. Are you going to make merch? Are you going to make Scott Peterson merch? If Scott Peterson gets a new trial, we've got to come out with something. No, I'm not.

And he'll fucking weed my ass. I'll do. All right. It'll be under high umbrella. That's fine. It'll be under the Big T umbrella. New trial. T.

T. Coming out from Big T. If he gets a new trial. I'm actually, I'm going to guarantee that they find out that Scott Peterson also killed the other lady you washed up. Like both of them. The one that you said, yeah, there was another lady that died.

I bet that he did both. I hope we get to find out. Oh, my guy. We definitely need you. Yeah. The deuce Peterson versus the state of California. This time it's personal. The most anticipated sequel in quite some time.

Yeah. We'll get you out there for sure. What else is under your umbrella, Big T, you said that the Scott Peterson version would be under you. That would be the first Big T exclusive, not affiliated with Barstall Sports merch. That's such a bad hill to die on. Like, come on. And as a man who's always afraid of going to jail, like that. That's not a good thing to be known for, man.

You should also sell, like, only sell them in gigantic sizes. So it could be big T's big T. Scott Peterson's innocent. Love that. Like, the best case scenario is he is innocent and, like, good for you for, like, calling it. But, like, there's much worse case scenarios where you're just, like, propping up a murderer. Like what? He's already a convicted murderer, Billy.

So then you're just going to the mat. You're going to. You're going to be a bad thing. We recorded an episode where we said people that were. found to be guilty that we thought we're innocent that was the whole point yeah but like you you're going hard for because you are going hard for i'll stick to my guns all right so he might get a new trial uh but as it stands right now so he is officially off death row i believe i i'm pretty sure yeah i think that's been the case for a little bit he seems like a guy that might get might get killed in prison

yeah he just has one of those faces i mean he's been there for what 20 years yeah 15 no not let's see Yeah, so 15. Yeah, he's been there for a while. So I did watch a couple more videos about Scott Peterson recently and analyzing his his facial reactions to certain questions. He's just lying about everything. That's a bad. No, that's a you never know how someone will react when they're being accused of murder, whether they did it or not. Yeah, but you can compare answers that he gives where he's, where he's where he might not be or he would have reason to lie and compare those. He could get killed in prison. He could get killed in prison. I actually, I worked excavation with a guy who went to prison, and he said that, no, like, the first week, the first week you get on the side, like, on the yard, they make you go get your papers from yourself to show what you got convicted for. So like, like, and then they, because they want to know, they want to know if you're like, if you're petto. Yeah, petto, like, sex offender. What do you think the, the hierarchy goes? Like, obviously, petos at the bottom. Right.

Yeah. Crimes of passion, like just crimes of passion are at the top. You think crimes of passion at the top? Well, like of the moral, the moral hierarchy of prisoners. I would feel like they would respect somebody who, like, was a drug kingpin more than somebody that just, like, felt like flipping a brick one day. I think there is like a love. Well, everyone's innocent according to what this guy said.

Uh-huh. According to your buddy, the excavator. Well, you spend, I spend so much time with this guy out in the hot sun. We would just talk about shit. Uh-huh. It was fun. The excavator is a great nickname. It is.

Oh, yeah. The excavator. Yeah. So did he tell you about, like, how much tuna they would eat on the inside? Because it's the only way that you can get games. Well, I'm going to be honest. Like, we talked about how to get jacked in prison. That's like the first thing you would ask about.

Yeah, because he was like a pretty jack guy. And I was like, what happened? Like, I honestly think that Billy might enjoy prison. I, like, during quarantine, I was like, dude, like, this is like, you know, you can just focus on working out. But then I just got really fat. Hanging with the fellas. Yeah.

It didn't really work. Hanging out with the guys on the yard. Brotan. They just play softball. It's like a giant Buffalo wildlings. No. They called this guy, they call this guy smooth because he had such a smooth softball sweet. Wait, they give him baseball bats?

Softball bats. Softball bats? It still seems like... It was a bigger. Yeah. Exactly. He wasn't like, you know, what kind of prison was the excavation? He wasn't in a bad time.

I don't think he would be in the same type of prison as Scott Peterson, but it was like a very interesting conversation. We should have long. He was in a, honestly like a white-collar prison? It wasn't. Would be pretty sick. I'm not going to say what this guy did.

What did you do? What was he? We don't know his name. It was a very sad situation. Oh, all right. That's a shame. Not one of those happy prisons.

It usually is. They locked me up because my dick was too big. I'm just you goddamn handsome. They needed me out the street. It's a menace of society.

I did. I was he in there for him. I was a magician and my tricks fooled everyone. They thought I was a witch so they lied. I thought I saw that man in the house. He was a really great guy.

He just did something stupid when he was 21 and then he got put in for like seven years. Oh, okay. All right. Great guy. Shout out the excavator. I want to know what he does. did he served his time i'll tell you it's that yeah but no nobody knows his name like nobody's

gonna google the excavator and what was he in the jail for you billy billy does this a lot where he like has no reason to hide something and then by hiding it it makes it a much bigger deal than it is now if you were to tell us where it is i'm sure it's like a pretty depressing thing yeah and so it's you just should have it off the back yeah and now it's just the buildup and now i have to know it's like fan we have the biggest prison population in the world like nobody's gonna figure out who this nigger is. Oh, that's very sad. You're right.

But the buildup was not worth it, brother. What do you think? What do you think like Aryan would fall on that list if he killed his roommate's dog? I feel like that's, oh, dude, that's probably towards the bottom. Fuck that dog.

Yeah, you know how many pro dog tweets I've been getting to? Like, I don't know if it's pro dog as much as it's just ant, anti-murdering dog tweets that you make. Niggas eat lunch every day and don't care about the chickens and cows that they eat. I don't understand. They have no logic. There's no logic.

Chickens don't love you back. I'm going to be honest. Nonsense. With your thinking, if I... Hold on my, hold on. Hold that thought. All my mother. I was in Austin, this week.

I went to Austin, Texas. Yesterday, actually. And we was on a street and there was some random nigga had a fucking chicken. And he was just walking around with a chicken. And he was just. petting the chicken, dog. He was like, this is my dude. Like, I love, how can you tell that man his chicken don't love him?

That's a good point. His chicken might, but on the whole, dogs will love you way more than chickens will. You know why? It's because we have bred an environment to have those creatures love us like that. This is where he was like, but they were shooting with us in the gym. They weren't. But the reason why is because they are literally bred to be our companions. We don't breed chickens to be our companions.

We breed them in these slaughterhouses to kill them in order to have lunch. And that's my whole point. Maybe chickens are just really smart and they talk. Like word gets around and they know that we don't love them. Like they tell each other like, they're just going to eat you like this. They're the worst things. Humans are the worst things ever.

Yeah. They fight each other. And then in order to get more fuel to fight each other, they eat us. My, my rooster hates me. I like take really good care. I'm sure it does.

It's just like if I ever walk in like to change stuff, and just like pecks at my boots and stuff. Does it look at you like your competition? No, I just like, I'm in there feeding them and then he just like charges me. You fucking kidnapped him from his environment and placed him in an apartment in a apartment in New York. No, he's not an apartment.

He's in Billy's barn. He's in my barn. He's well taken care of all you got a barn? Yeah, I just moved. That's what I was long before. What did it happen with the chickens? They're taken care of. They're all good.

Are you going to eat them? No. they're just for the eggs right yeah the eggs they lay awesome eggs if you ever look up easter egg or chicken's they lay green eggs green or blue eggs that's crazy they're really cool i've always thought that turkeys we don't eat turkey eggs for some reason in this country i bet you turkey eggs would be delicious i read something about i think i think i had you look that up and it was because turkeys like they lay it's inefficient they don't lay as many eggs they're bigger eggs yeah but it doesn't make sense to keep a turkey for the purposes of egg laying

And by the way, Billy, when Madeline interviewed to be an intern on this show, she asked you to bring her a dozen farm fresh eggs from your chickens. Have you brought a single egg? No. I haven't been up there in a while. I've been moved. I'm in the city now. Why didn't you think to bring a couple eggs down for Madeline? Because it's like two hours of like that commute is great thing.

But when you moved down here, you couldn't like just grab a couple on your way out the door. Chickens are illegal in New York City. Go get the eggs, nigger. Bill, I'm going to come back. from Ohio in two weeks and I'm going to bring you a dozen of fresh eggs and then I'm really going to have eggs off, egg off my eggs versus your eggs. My boyfriend,

my boyfriend has chickens. You can out of it. You should absolutely have an egg off. We're going to have to be it. We're getting weird, man. My boyfriend has chickens. That's a great that's a great. My chickens could beat the shit out of your boyfriend's chicken. No way. Those are Russ felt chickens.

So you don't have a fucking chance. Isn't that, that's illegal. Isn't like, chicken fighting a big time? This was the point I was going to make if I were to be a chicken I would rather be a fighting chicken than a chicken in a factory farm because they take care of those roosters so well if you ever seen like documentaries they like pamper them until they die yeah I would just but like you live a life of glory as a chicken it's sick coley has been known to watch documentaries on cockfighting from time to time no the

spot I used to get my hair cut back when I had hair to cut um they always had talk fights on TV there. I don't know what feed they were getting it from, but it was a Dominican spot and they were just like they were watching like soccer. They were having a grander. Like they had it on like it was nothing. It was great. Do you think they're like, uh, like famous commentators for cockfighting? Like we have Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels. You think there's like an owl of the cockfighting game like casually mentions the betting odds as one. I don't think the betting odds are buried in cockfighting. I think they lead with that. I'm going to be honest. You know how like soccer announcers go nuts yeah like glass oh it's that same energy have you been to a

cut fight no i just i've seen them on you like online on youtube they like on youtube the commentators go nuts i don't think it was telling yourself yeah i mean i think donnie donnie donnie does our foreign correspondent did a documentary on so you like what you like watching cockfights no i just am interested in like what's going on like do you watch horror movies no i don't either Where was that going on? Like, life is, you can, like, watch, like, it was, like, it was, yeah, it was more education. And I just don't like, like, having anxiety that I chose to walk into. Like, I already have it regularly.

So, fuck this. Yeah, but sometimes, like, if you see a video that you know that you don't want to watch, you also kind of have to watch it. I don't know if you ever do that. But if I, if, like, a video of, for example, like the Russian bridge climbing compilations where I just, I freak out whenever I watch teenagers, like, hang off those pulls from a couple thousand feet up in the sky or whatever i can't if i can't help myself i see it and i'm like i don't want to watch this that's what my brain's saying and meanwhile my finger is scrolling right over to it and clicking play on it i don't know why i do that i don't know that just made me think of if you guys are looking for a dope-ass like kind of

like documentary kind of thing there's this dude that free climbed of like a mountain um you saw Billy's nodding like you saw it You saw it? One of all the awards Yosemite Free solo, right? Yeah, free solo, that's what it is. Fucking, bro, that shit is

that had me on the edge of my seat, though. That shit was suspenseful. But that shit was cold and he was climbing this big-ass mountain with no ropes and shit. Like none of the harnesses. It just by himself. It sucked, but it was so good.

Like, my hands are honestly sweating just talking about it right now. We had him on part of my take, actually. That dude, Alex Honnold, the climber. And the funniest part was when his girlfriend was like looking for houses with them or looking for like different appliances for the house that they just bought and all that guy wanted to do was just like live inside of his van and eat out of the pot he's like this is we have a kitchen this is way too much house for me uh you guys

want to get into aliens we should uh well first of all some guy dm'd us and said he rented a boat on lake lanier after listening to our episode and uh he took it out and he loved it it was great okay What a dumbass. Thank you for your viewership, but what the fuck is wrong with that? We have the stupidest listeners. I saw TikTok yesterday. People just swimming in Lake Lanier, like on the beach area. And the whole TikTok was documenting that someone 500 feet from them slipped off a rock and died.

And everyone just still like they show like all like the divers come in looking for the body and stuff. Like, hey, I didn't know you could post that on TikTok. B, like, what's the fuck? Like, everyone just stayed and had a merry old day when someone just died in that same butt. Like, you just slipped on a rock and died. Come on. I mean, yeah, what point do you pack stuff up and head out?

It's like, there has to be sunscreen on and everything. There has to be some other body of water nearby. That doesn't kill everyone that you could swim. There's got to be. There's got to be. Also, going back to pseudocide, we could talk about a little bit about McAfee. John McAfee, yeah.

The whale, the whale, fucker yeah is he dead or is he alive dude honestly i think he i think this one was like no i think mac of he set it up so i think he's still alive but i don't think the government killed him or anything i think he literally just been like long long game setting it up he's gonna fake his own death to get out of his charges so you think it's just a good old fashion case of bribery where he bribed the spanish prison be like hey just report that i died yeah i'm gonna go the side door here's 50 million dollars exactly i mean yeah i could i could honestly see that happening i could also see him actually killing himself so that he would know that like everybody would be

talking about the fact that he's not really dead he i could see like the the ultimate troll move offing yourself in prison it's super smart i mean he laid all the groundwork about like oh i am not suicidal blah blah like he literally just framed the like you know whoever you think killed epstein or whoever like deep dark whatever like he's just framing them for his own it's actually smart as hell so was he allowed to have twitter in prison because he was getting a lot of tweets off he was in he was on a yacht yeah he wasn't in like anything like maximum security wasn't it just like tax evasion he was in for tax evasion on crypto i think he was just bouncing around on a yacht like he was just but he was in custody to some degree he's yeah you got arrested in spain they finally got

him i think he like was just went to the mediterranean and like the mediterranean is probably the worst place to hide because it's kind of like you're trapped you're only one there's two ways in and out it's probably like a bernie made off scenario he's probably in some nice like resort probably on a yacht yeah but every i agree with billy everything with like the tattoo he was just building it up like yeah he was playing the long game yeah i mean kudos to him like i'm gonna keep it a buck i have no idea what you're talking about so john mackfee's a dude that makes the antivirus software that pops up on your computer every like three minutes so he is uh a crazy guy he's very rich. He's eccentric. He's been on the on the run for years, right? Like the federal government

wants it. What is he wanted by the U.S. government for? Um, he is wanted for, you also might have seen that he tweets about fucking whales. He's a big proponent in the belief that it's impossible to have unconsensual sex between a human being and a whale. If the whale wants to get fucked or if the whale doesn't want to get fucked, it can just kill a human being that's trying to fuck it. And so he's apparently gone to these whale fucking excursions. That's really the extent that I know about his past. He was in jail for refusing to file tax returns. Refusing to file. So he was arrested. So basically he has tons of charges in Belize. He had a property in Belize that was raided by the gang suppression unit. And he was doing unlicensed drug manufacturing and he

He had unlicensed weapons. He was in Canada when this happened, and they seized his assets. He got arrested for DUI in 2015, 2019. He was arrested in a Dominican Republic because they thought he had weapons. Weapons were seized. He was released. And then in 2020, he lied, and he was arrested in Norway during the COVID-19 pandemic after refusing to replace a lace thong with a more effective face mask.

Are you a wait? What? Yeah, he later tweeted a picture of himself with a bruised eye claiming it occurred during the arrest. The photo, yeah, I didn't even know that. That's ridiculous. Basically, he was probably on the run, and the reason he got caught was because he was wearing a thong instead of a face mask. He refused to cover up his face while he was on. That's how he got caught.

That's like the story of the guys who were on the run from prison. They escaped prison. And the only reason they got found was because one of the guys wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Yeah, it's commitment to the bit. Jesus. Yeah, so he got, he was arrested in Spain in October of 2020 at the request of the U.S. Justice Department. Yeah, this dude was just bouncing around, just making sure no one could get to him. The gun stuff is all probably real because I remember the Hard Factor Boys did an interview with him and he was on his boat in the middle of some ocean somewhere.

And he just had just assault rifles after assault, like automatic weapons, like really illegal shit. It's like piled up behind and just threw it all about his boat. So my guy's just on the road. I mean, he was just on the run and he was just like hella tweeting and just living his life. Yeah, just posting. He was a full-time poster at that point. He had a ton of crypto. His pin tweet says, the U.S. believes I have hidden crypto.

I wish I did, but it has dissolved through the many hands of team McAfee. Your belief is not required. And my remaining assets are all seized. My friends evaporated through fear of association. I have nothing yet I regret nothing He also said he was going to drop names Like the Clintons and stuff Like Pizza Gate type shit

Yeah So I think he could have been killed because of like Someone wanted to keep their name out of it I think he was saying that on purpose To like frame someone Yeah I think so too People think it was the Clintons Well the whole thing about the Clinton stuff

Is anybody actually think that Hillary Clinton is out there Just like shooting people Like Do you think that she's got shooters Justin Dreestar Yeah. Big T definitely believes that. It's not worth responding. Is she simultaneously like...

It's so dumb. If she did, wouldn't she have, like, wouldn't she have killed someone, like, pretty obviously? Well, there were some suspicious deaths in Arkansas back in the day, but it's not important. Who knows? Yeah. I might have killed somebody. I don't know. I think McAfee is just, like, I think he's too crazy for anyone to ever give him a secret.

Like I said... So this is the good die? So is that what happened? He died in Spanish prison. He committed suicide. I have something crazy to say. So this guy, what? That's an excellent.

So this guy apparently tweeted all the time. He's like, I have no plans to kill myself, right? And then he kills himself. That sounds to me exactly like what someone who was planning on killing themselves would do. This weirdo, like just going to tweet over the course of several years, I have no plans to kill myself. Then he kills himself. And everybody's like, wow, this guy said he wasn't going to do that. Yeah, my, my, I'm not going to kill myself t-shirt is getting a lot of questions that are answered by the t-shirt.

I think this guy just wanted like when he eventually did do it when he got found out for all the shit he was doing. He just wanted people to be like, wow, that's so crazy. Yeah. Well, it's a, it's a good point because it seems like he was certainly spending a lot of time thinking about killing them. For years. For years. It's also like it points to, it might be disproving a little bit too because it points to some narcissism that he's tweeted that so many times, which. implies that he believes that everyone else thinks or he it implies that he thinks that he's a big

enough deal to get assassinated right to be the victim of some like nefarious plot and if you're that narcissistic where you think that somebody is going to someone important wants to kill you because you know too much you're probably not the type of person who would actually go through with killing yourself does that make sense and if you if you had that kind of information that kind of dirt that's the kind of person the government like brings in on their side not kills yeah but yeah i don't know i can't call it i don't know this is the first time i really never heard i look he'd wait yeah he'd way too much access to firearms before he went to prison in spain to like then you know committing suicide in a fucking spanish prison cell is probably way harder than if you have a

bunch of automatic weapons on your boat well you probably do what do you go to pick of a yacht they he was probably parked in like some you know yacht place that super rich people have and then like this the US finally got an extradition order in Spain on him

because also the whole thing was arian he the day he was found dead was the day he was supposed to get extradited back to the United States for his trial okay the plot context he's yeah I think he's, there's like a 50-50 shot, actually, that he's alive, I think.

Yeah. I mean, honest, like, think about how much money he has and how much money it would take to, like, break, you know, someone's, like, law and order skills to, like, go to the, you know, what's it called? Not the funeral home, but where they keep the cadavers. The morgue, like, go to the morgue, get a suicide body that there's, like, there, just throw it in the thing and be like, oh, that's his body. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would make sense. He had the money to do it. Less than, you could do that for less than like 500,000. Well, you got to know a corrupt mortician. You know one of those?

Well, the thing is, like, think about how much crime there is in Spain already. You don't just go to the head honcho of whatever, you know, yacht, like, you know, like, hey, can you make this happen for me? And the guy's like, yeah. Do you think there's ever been like a group of friends that grew up together as children and, like, as kids plotted out the perfect murder? it's like okay you need to go to mortician school like played the long game on it like all right you need to enter the police academy you need to become a gun salesman yeah it's like and then we'll finally kill our teacher for assigning that fucking homework she gave me enough all right that's what I'm saying like it's a planet that long you'd have to have somebody of mine for that long and it had to be a petty ass reason you're killing them yeah so a reason that a nine year old would do like they gave out fucking toothbrushes on Halloween or or actually this man dope-ass movie I did like like like like a foster home that they was getting beaten in that would be a fire little movie plot actually they all grew up to have like a part in the yeah or a bunch of like

choir boys who are all getting and they played a long game that'd be a good one actual choir boys they end up doing something that's like we're no choir boys exactly yeah they kill like they're the priest okay all right that's those are two solid movie ideas that we've had this week i think we're no Do we have another couple good ones a few weeks ago? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe I just dreamt that. All right.

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by the Pentagon to release to Congress, which is the exact. So multiple, basically all the reports were given to the Pentagon, and they put together the larger. So all the reports that get summed up here, they're just military sightings of UAP, unexplained aerial phenomenon. That rebranding from UFO to UAP, that's, I mean, that reminds me of like SDDs or SDIs. Yep, it's the same thing. Burns the same. allegedly

but so we're going to get into some of these aliens but Coley has I know Coley's got some qualms with how I actually agree with him that our alien outreach program here on Earth has been lackluster we basically sit around waiting for the aliens to come to us and we really haven't done shit

to try to find them I know that there's like one there's like one satellite farm that's beaming some sort of like signal up into the sky 24 hours a day but besides that I feel like we got to do our part and we haven't really been doing it But, Kola, you were saying there's one specific issue that you have with our alien outreach program. Yeah, it was a few years ago.

I know Farrell was involved. I feel like there were a couple other, like, big names from across all music genres that were involved. And they got together and they, I don't know if they sent it in like multiple forms because we don't really know what aliens can listen. Like, they're not coming with Walkmans despite what their advertisements would lead us to believe. and it was all songs no one's ever heard before like original one of one like Farrell's song I think you two might have been involved

like who who decided like these artists don't decide what songs are good fans do the masses do these should have been the hits throughout the years like it should have been September by Earth When and Fire up first like it should have been the classic Aaron you want to send them garbage no I'm saying

And I don't think the message should decide. We collect the stupid shit all the time. Fair. More than fair. But September would be a great record. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like, like objective classics that no one could, could, I'm sure some dickhead out there

could argue, but reason mind. Like, Farrell has put out bad songs in his life. Like, he's not shooting a thousand from the field. Like, no one is. So for him to be, I've got this, I've got this one of one, literally no one else has heard. Let's make sure that. could be an act of war like if this album stinks our safety could be dependent on this album being good i trust his air more than the masses though i don't disagree i don't disagree but can you how how

much are people their own harshest critics sometimes i have just man for realism that he's the one dog he's a genius man he's a sure but he also really loves aliens so he might be trying to placate to them and it could come off as offensive it's true So this is different from the golden record, right? I believe so. The golden record, I think, was it had a wider variety on it. But I'm looking at- Pharrell wasn't on the golden record.

Ferrell was not on that one. They did have Johnny Be Good. That was controversial when they put that on there. You know one of the whack parts about the gold record, though, was that they originally included like a naked picture of a man and woman, which makes perfect sense because that's who were born. But like our society at the time was fucking prude. and they were, so they received backlash from it.

Like, don't send the aliens our unfiltered picks, basically. Did we send the aliens nudes? No, we did. We tried to send nudes. And they're like, no, what we'll do is we'll just, you can send silhouettes. But it wasn't even like a side profile silhouette. It was just like a front profile. So it was like the Da Vinci like.

Yeah, it's just, it's what you see on, on a bathroom where it's men or women. It's just like the circle and then the body. So they don't really get the picture. should have sent them nudes. We had an opportunity to get this, to send them, to send them. This was our first Snapchat. That was our first snapshot. Imagine explaining to an alien species, like, hey, this is a picture of us,

but we weren't allowed to draw our full bodies because there's three parts of our bodies that we think are bad. And so he, so he left those out. You understand. They only be like, fuck out of here. Put a parental advisory sticker on the, not for young aliens. 14 year old era alien i can't listen to yeah what what music would you guys choose to include obviously you said september i think smooth smooth yeah smooth would have to be on there

so this is this is pretty funny carl sagan wanted to put here comes the sun on the record but uh the record company objected they he would they wouldn't let outer space use the rights to here comes the sun by the beetles they're like no we don't want i refuse to let aliens listen to this song unless you're going to pay us for it and i actually that's like how much do you think you get paid per stream like in the future in perpetuity like you two say what you want about them this is the most you two thing ever for them to find themselves on like the music that that gets uh foisted upon other galaxies it wasn't enough that they had to take over our iPhones for it and install their shitty album onto it they have to make aliens

listen to it all the time so they can get that money on the back end of course you know that album was shitty or did you just not listen to it out of I spite. Yeah. It was a spite thing for me. Did you listen to it? Fuck no. Yeah, of course not. Like, all right, I can I can fuck around with some YouTube from the like late 80s, mid-90s maybe.

But they have not once had a jam in the last 17 years. Just a fact. That song where they randomly spoke Spanglish and it was like the first iTunes commercial. Uno Dostres Catoose. Yeah, that song, Vertigo. the song that was exclusively created to sell cell phones and cross transatlantic flights and commercials yeah i think i can pass on that one fucking paul david houston that's bono's real name by the way much worse name he made a smart choice that you'll forget that name by the time

this episode it's so forget it is actually sabermetrically the most forgettable name ever so he had to change it to bono and bono hasn't done shit recently used to be all about saving the world. Bono, well, I don't know if you, if you noticed recently, we've had a pretty fucked up year. Where have you been at? You've been hiding in your cave in Northern Ireland jacking off to your old records, you piece of shit. Yo, why are you so mad at Bono fans? Let's go. What does Bono have on Apple to make them so intertwined? He knows where Steve Jobs still is. I was just going to say. He's got some information. No one. No one would check Northern Ireland. No one. Probably right.

Steve Jobs, he just had an IRA bar. Yeah. Paul David Houston. Yeah, that's his name. I already kind of forgot it. Paul David Houston. No, it's Houston. It's even less memorable than Houston.

There's no, there's no hardly less memorable. There's no hard consonants except at the beginning where it's Paul. Paul David Houston. Anyways, fuck you. and your stupid albums. So aliens, back to aliens real quick. Hold on.

Have you explained why you have this disdain towards Bono? Did I miss this? I just, I think that his music sucks. I think that he sucks. He just sucks. We should all be allowed to just think that one person sucks for no real good reason. And like,

good for you, Bono, you've made a shitload of money. You've, I guess theoretically, given a lot of it away. I have not seen the receipts on it, but you were on the cover of Time magazine.

But I don't, I, I think that his music is like the most bland thing ever. It was, again, recent music because you two did have some jams back in the day. But I just think that they, they specifically write songs to be featured in car commercials. Okay. I'm thinking he must have slept with your lady or something, bro. No. No. No, I can almost guarantee that's never happened.

You can almost hear you. You never know. You never know. Did Bono cuck you? You never know. like who knows uh this is this is deep this is a deep root he was just gonna move on like anyway fuck that guy like hold on g i'm sure you guys have people that you feel that same way about people okay so i don't i don't really hate him i just he's just extremely annoying he's so he sucks yeah

i think he sucks i think he sucks that's his thing i got something like that i got something like that but it's not it's not like that like i don't have any i don't have any problems with this dude like i don't i don't think he sucks or whatever i just think that i can personally beat jeremy linton basketball that's just how i feel that's just how i feel okay this is how i feel are you good i don't know what it is i've seen him play and his game just bothers me a little bit i don't like i don't got nothing against buddy man i'm happy he is his chief just goal and whatever what about ben simmons i just feel like i could beat him that's i guess that's my thing he gave coby 38 you're going to stop him he didn't give colby 38 dog stop it my jealby was

calling out the switches. Stop it. Do you think you could beat Ben Simmons one-on-one? No, he's tall, so I'd have to shoot. It depends on if I was on and off that day. You know, I don't think I could back him down. Well, I probably could. Basketball players are soft.

You understand, fam, like, I made a living in the trenches. Basketball players are soft. They'll be flapping. I could probably back him down, but, like, I don't think I could get Ben-Simmis one-on-one. I do think I can get Jeremy then-one-on-one. Can you watch the NBA without getting mad about how soft it is? It's not that it's soft. It's like, I get it.

You're trying to get fouls. But it's just like, I don't know, like, I, because I grew up playing basketball, right? I was like, really my, really my favorite sport. I love playing basketball. So it's like, I know the game, not to the extent that they do, obviously. But it's just so whack, my nigga. Like, it's just so weak. Like, I don't know, like, you grow up playing on the park, you know, against the people in the neighborhood or whatever, even the AAU ball or whatever.

But like, it was just like, we used to like body people and like get up, like that type shit. And now it's just devolved into this like, you're always looking at the ref. Like he, who gives a fuck? Play on. Like, they used to be a thing. That used to be a thing. Listen, this is Houston's fault.

We can, we can look right at Houston. That's where this came from. Number 13 of the field. Yeah. So you said Ben Simmons. He didn't, he didn't help it. You said, he didn't help it. That's my dude, though.

Shout out to James Harder, man. You said Simmons. was too tall, so let's take four words out of it. What percentage of guards in the NBA right now do you think you could beat in a one-on-one game? Oh, not many, not many. No, no, no, no. But I was talking about backing down.

I could back him down. Like, that's what I was talking. I don't think I could. Right, but you said Jeremy Lynn, you could beat. So, like, are there other guards in the NBA now that you think you could beat? Nah, that's what they do for a living, man. Yeah, Ben Simmons is really the one that sticks out because he can't score. Right.

And so it'll be tough. Like, Arian probably couldn't score that much on him. Have you seen that video of him playing at, like, an L.A. fitness, though? He's just, he's just draining 35 footers. It's crazy. Yeah, at the L.A. Let me ask you this. Did your playing style change after you became, like, D1 NFL player?

Like, did you start playing like a football player, is what I'm asking? No, I never did. And I don't know what you're talking about because, like. Oh, yeah. So we transition, right? So, like, so in high school, like, basketball season was after football season, right? And so when the football players came in, there's like always a joke like,

oh, yeah, the football players are back in basketball now because, like, I would watch them and all the cats that I'd play football with, I'd be like, my nigga, you have no finesse to you? Like, everybody was just aggressive, like, just, man, yeah, hacking. And this is like, that wasn't my style of play. Like, I was smooth.

Like, I could handle the rock. It's because I grew up, like, loving, like, and one, like, skip to Maloo is a fucking legend in my eyes, right? And so, like, I grew up, like, loving that shit. And so I used to just spend hours dribbling the ball in front of the mirror. Like, I was that kid. But no, I have a finesse, but I don't know just talking about football players are a little extra with the...

It's all, like, I used to love playing with them because it made my life easier. It's like, all right, I'm going to swirl the points. You guys do whatever you want defensively. I'll stand under the rep. Aliens. Aliens. So the report's coming out. We read the report.

We'll get into it. I totally got this on. A good segue would be a space jam, you know, that the aliens. came and there you go and john being in lebrons movies coming out and okay let's talk about aliens by the way space has nothing to do with space it's computer based so it's it's got a wrong name tech tech that's actually bullshit really tech jam yeah he gets sucked into a computer and is going up against um space bar jam the the cloud jam the cloud jam the cloud jam big tech jam i totally lied earlier. I got this totally wrong. The Department of Defense

and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released the data. So it's technically. Department of Defense, that's the Pentagon. Technically the Pentagon, yeah. Yeah. No, you guys. Okay. Thank you for apologize. Are you fucking fact-checking yourself live? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people do it for me later. It's a massive improvement.

Like, we leaps and bounds from where we started here. And so, yeah, there have been all those sightings that we're going to get into a little bit with Harvey. They're going to show evidence of it are some of the videos and stuff. But like, Let's talk, let's open it up a little bit on aliens. Let's open it up like if they do exist or don't.

And the paradox that Aryans brought up a couple times, the Fermi paradox, which is that aliens haven't contacted us either because the technology of intergalactic travel is impossible to invent or because advanced societies will always destroy themselves before they invent that technology. Those are like the two options that we've been told are a thing. And I'm curious to know, like, right off the bat, do you guys think that that's bullshit and that we have already been contacted by aliens?

Or do you think, do you fall on the side of, like, aliens do not exist in the galaxy? Or excuse me, in the universe. I don't think that, well, I can't make a definitive statement. have not been contacted by anything. It's just, I see no evidence to convince me of such thing. I think that given our current technological state, we don't have the tools to detect if there's anything else out there. I would like to think that there are much more advanced civilizations and we're just not

worth contacting right now. okay i like that theory they're just ignoring us the aliens are really smart like if they're smart enough to develop the technology to to come visit earth then they're definitely smart enough to be like these guys are bad news well yeah i just think i mean like the most rational of us right like if you look at the greatest human beings that ever walked right like they call us dumb all the time like and we are we're stupid as hell and so if you think like an a whole advanced civilization is a bunch of smart motherfuckers like they're looking at us like no they're still fighting over fucking ground resources it's wild like this they're not they're not ready why what about the um there's

another theory that kind of plays into that which is that uh there are aliens out there but they're dormant they're just like they're chilling until the time's right so they're i don't know like cicadas or whatever they're they're hanging out almost hibernating and waiting uh for us to clean our shit up on on earth and then they'll visit it's like they're trusting the process essentially it's like okay that's actually one of the premises of uh Star Trek, you are Star Trek, but they have that their main thing is they don't contact a civilization unless they can reach warp nine speed, which is like faster than like travel. Okay. Yeah. So you have to meet a certain threshold to even be considered worthy of because otherwise

you end up speaking two different languages to each other. Well, no, they, they, they, they say that that is like the intergalactic community, right? Like everybody can achieve that like that travel, right? And they say that if their prime directive is to not get in the way of that so you you you can't talk to another civilization because that might impede their their process and they're they're like that's the innocence of life in general in the universe is them get in there by themselves oh shit i maybe i got to start watching star trek oh it's fucking brilliant bro yeah but i was i like having sex so i don't think you can do both it does sound fascinating like i didn't know that was a premise though and i just thought it was like a bunch of guys in

sweaters sitting in a room and that's that's pretty much it there's a bunch of shirts and chairs that guy's got the red one he's got the yellow pretty good yeah the one guy does the hand thing turns out there's actually storylines to it okay the the colors of the shirts are actually mean something too like blue means medical that's enough that's enough star trek I'm a treky dog I love that shit um billy's like please clip that for me just for me avery i need that clip top billy billy you look like you got something on your brain some heavy shit to unload here i think that aliens the craft that we see and you know i think they're all earthbound i don't think any outside beings or civilization or aliens have ever

came to our planet, yes, I believe they exist, and they're probably somewhere out there, but very far away statistically, life definitely exists on other planet, intelligent life. But like, there might be, like, bacteria on different planets that are habitable, because there are conditions on Earth that are similar to conditions on other places in the solar system that support life. There's, like, archaic bacteria that live in, like, 1,000-degree thermal vents. So, like, definitely could survive on, like, some hotter planets. Yeah.

I agree. I do think that, like, we, we tend to think of aliens as being little green men or whatever with eyes that, you know, fly in spaceships that we can identify as being spaceships or, like, some sort of aerial aviation. What's the word I'm looking for? Like, aerial craft, right? Something that's similar to our airplanes that we have here on Earth. And we assume that they will look something like us, that they'll have eyes, that they'll walk upright, that they'll back. that they'll balance, that they'll, you know, by and large, they look more like human beings than anything else that we have on planet Earth right now, which I think is stupid for us

to just assume that they're going to look like that. If aliens have visited the planet, they probably have visited the planet as like maybe microscopic things, maybe like germs, maybe things that have been like elements from a comet that have crashed into the planet a long time ago ended up giving us the building blocks for life, we're aliens. You know, like, I feel like, I don't know, just because we don't, it's kind of arrogant on our part to assume that if an alien species were to be so smart that they could travel across the solar system of the galaxy or whatever that they would get here and they would look and act and think a lot like we do. It's more likely that if we, that these beings are from planet Earth. I mean, I mean, Neil deGrasse Tyson just went on a whole tirade.

You want to get into that? Yeah, because it addresses a lot of these questions. NDGT just fired up Twitter, logged on to Twitter.com. He's got some fire takes. Avery, go back up to the one with that one. That's my favorite one that he has because that summarizes my thoughts in a lot of ways. Okay, so what's that? That's our Twitter header.

Yep, that picture of that UFO there. All right. So Neil DeGrasse Tyson, he's been tweeting, I guess, in last hour or so. You just had some stuff he had to get out. Sometimes when you're... I think he said it was all of his tweets about aliens since, like, 2009. He just reposted them. Oh, did he re-typed them or did he retweet them?

I think he re-typed them out. He was like, these are all the tweets I've had in the last 10 years about aliens. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's not as fun. Retweet yourself. Come on, Neil. I mean, he subscribes the ideology that aliens have not came here.

Okay, well, let's read some of the tweets that we're talking about him. I haven't read them personally. So, Avery, you want to, you want to read them out loud? All right. So the one that Big T. was alluding to, it says the search for aliens on Earth has been crowdsourced to three billion internet connected smartphones around the world. If our best evidence for visitors from another planet is monochromatic, low resolution, fuzzy video taken by the U.S. Navy, then there's more work to be done here. So that brings up a lot of what Arian and Big T have been talking about in terms of. video footage this one says space aliens seeing humans killed over land politics religion and

resources would surely ask what the and we could say fuck but he decided not to on twitter with a what is that an asterisk and a percentage sign is wrong with you after in quotes and then he said after which they'd return to their home planet declaring there is no sign of intelligent life on earth so they're just roasting us yep absolutely roasting us after they flex on us with the you know what if a UFO beams you up steals a gizmo from i think you meant from here it's he's he there's a spelling error in there is that fom uh from the aliens you're gonna have to correct them yeah you should yeah i'm on it live tweeting right now uh if a UFO beams you up steals a gizmo from the alien shelf when it is not looking bring that to the lab you'll

need it to supplement your eyewitness testimony this this one i've got a problem with like if you're abducted and you're on one of these ships a they definitely have eyes on you everywhere you can't just steal a gizma and assume they're going to return you in one piece i would agree are you assuming they're going to return you in one piece anyway i mean maybe just go for it i mean i guess if you have like a weapon i don't know again we're assuming they're violent in nature so i don't they may not be violent until you're muted, Aaron, until you go out and steal something from. I always say that's my main complaint about our depiction of aliens is like they just want to come take over.

It's like, it's like you buying a first class ticket to like some Amazon place, something somewhere into Amazon and you fly all the way just go like step on an ant hill for like no reason. Like it's highly inconvenient, though, like space is big as fuck. You know how hard it is to get from one place to another, all just to go fucking take it? want to talk about that though because if aliens are real in the intelligence sense that we're talking about them and they've traveled from whatever galaxy it is necessary that they have technology so far beyond anything we can comprehend that they could overtake the planet if they wanted to right like they could just do whatever they want it so that's that seems like a realistic

fear to me if if they're here no why like you're thinking in your human form and your colonize a brain that everybody just wants to consume no i'm not i'm not even saying they want to i'm saying the technology that they would have to have to even get here means that the military technology they could have would be so far beyond anything they even had a military you know you know what this is this is the classic like when people argue about like the second amendment and shit it's like like if the government like because the Second Amendment says you should have

you're allowed to have whatever arms the government has, right? But like you're not allowed to have a tank, man, because there's shit you can do with the U.S. military rolls in here with tanks, your rifle ain't going to do it. So it's like the same concept. Like, if the aliens do have that technology,

they ain't shit you can do about it. So there's no reason to even being afraid of it. If they want to vaporize you with their vaporizing guns, you're vaporized. It is what it is. It's an irrational fear. Well, I don't, I don't, I don't get what you're, I don't think we disagree, really.

Like, we agree that they would have things that could just wipe you out if they wanted to. Mm-hmm. So it's like, so it's like why, but why would they take the trouble to wipe us all out? I don't know. I'm not saying they want to. I'm just saying that if somebody had that fear, I think that would be. Aaron, was that Lola that was just barking? The dog, mine.

Oh, shit. All right. So no proof of life still. Yeah. I was about to be able to exhale for the first time in a week knowing that the dog was safe. I think a lot of it has like north sent to Nalise Island off the coast of India, which is home to one of the last stone age uncontacted tribes. And we don't go there. And if we do, it's a boat off the shore because we don't want to disturb them, give them diseases.

and because they have very, they haven't exposed all the pathogens we have. So I think that's sort of what the aliens are doing. And plus every time we go to that island, all the people on that island try to kill anyone who's there. So, and I'm going to be honest, the aliens probably see us the same way, just a very primal, like, to them primal way of contacting,

like interacting with outsiders. Yeah. So. This one's interesting. It says, I wonder, if you can't teach algebra to a chimp, then what math might intelligent aliens be unable to teach to humans? Wait, he just said that aliens don't exist, though, a second ago.

I know. But that's probably one of the ones. No, he didn't say they don't exist, right? Well, he said that, yeah, I guess he said that the things that we've seen, the flying area of a lot, visited. All he said was, we need to do more work. Also, look at the part where he says Hollywood, if aliens were out of this world, they would a totally different DNA

and not look anything close to anything on Earth. I think that's why I just said, right? So Neil's plagiarizing me. That's fine. What else is? He just shitting on daylight savings, too. He said, I wonder what space aliens would say if told that Earthling

shift clocks by an hour in the summertime to fool themselves into thinking there's more sunlight in the day. That's a great take. That's really what aliens would freak out about. Yeah. It's what I freak out about. So I'm with the aliens on this way. I bet you Neil would say like the exact same thing if he's like any minor inconvenience that he has over the course of a day.

He's like, this street sign makes no sense logically. What do you think aliens would say about the loading zone that you're only permitted to park in between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m. Meanwhile, you're like, sir, your car is in the already in the impound lot. What's your, what's your Nildegrauss Tyson take? I feel like you have one, man. I think he's goofy. I think he's like a corny dude. He just loves stars.

Like, find anything and love it half as much as Neil deGrasse Tyson loves stars. That dude used to wrestle. Yeah, he's a good wrestler. Yeah. He's fun. This one's a good one, and I think we can all ask each other this question. He said, if I were ever abducted by space aliens, the first thing I'd ask is whether they came from a planet where fellow aliens also

deny science. So if you guys got abducted by aliens, what would you? Would be the first thing you ask? I don't know, but it wouldn't be that. Yeah. That's like the worst thing you get asked. Real sarcastic. Yeah. They're like, they're like, wow, this guy's real negative. Put up they're like loser. Yeah, let's find someone cooler to talk. Let's find one of these guys that denies science. It sounds like that dude knows how to party. I would love seeing NGT on a spaceship and being like that button shouldn't be there. It should be over there. because of this and they're just like get this got a fuck out of here dude yeah what if like the first thing aliens asked us were like is john madden still alive yeah you know they know the answer to

that already yeah what would you guys ask i mean yeah i'd probably be like uh i don't know um i'd ask about like big big bang stuff probably that's probably something they know yeah probably say are you god or is god real are you god came to mind for me they probably don't know that though you know y'all would waste your question on that why am i only getting one you think they picked me up so i could get one because a every every like a genie situation

that's a long talker i think the aliens know that i'd be like explain to me the plot of inception please no i feel like the aliens say like if you ask them about stuff that we have in common with them they would know more like the big bang in the universe but like if you ask them like about like who killed you

they'd be like what like Billy would be like Billy would be like can you do a bowel roll in this thing yeah I would ask him what dark matter is yeah all right that's a good one that's a very construct I would be yeah I was going to say I'd be like Imjara Lebron you guys hate you do I'm going to show you these YouTube video highlights you tell me which one you think puts the orange thing in the hoop bag I mean that my my question was going to be if if aliens not even if their humanoid, but if they could almost mimic what we look like, if they had that built into their DNA,

where they could walk amongst those disguised. Who would be your, who do you think is an alien out of all of humanity? I'd want to know if there's like a multiverse. That would be my, that would be the biggest one. If there's a planet exactly like ours. Oh, wait, Cole, are you saying that you think that they're,

are you asking us what we would say? I would be, I would think LeBron is an alien, for example. He could be an alien. Dwight Howard's probably more likely, though. I could debunk the LeBron alien thing. Okay. How? If you were an alien,

like, why would you want to have to alter the avatar that you have inhabited? So like, my guy is, my guy is balding and like

he doesn't want to let it go. And so he always has to like, you know, he put the Beijing on it. And so it's like, if you were an alien, you would have like let me get the best my counter is it almost how like lebron is so bad at doing normal human things like memorizing song lyrics or like telling a joke people find funny like he's so bad at those kind of things and then he's so superhuman and all these other things it's almost like the perfect storm like he's he's so close to acting like a normal human on so many different

occasions to be just a little off kawai too kawai would be like Yeah, Kauai Maybe that explains like LeBron's thing With the first page of all the books He just I've seen humans do this So I don't get it Apparently you just look at it

For a prolonged period of time And then you know a new story Yeah LeBron's not a bad one I don't think Honestly like any any politician I think I was about to say They're all fucking weird Aren't they like every politician

There's always something like slightly wrong with them you never see a politician that's just a completely like regular person they all have either like a a fucked up tooth or like a weird like shaped body that nobody else in the history of humanity's ever had they have like a piece of skin that's like hanging down too far over their jaw they're all weirdos they all they all look weird they all just act totally bizarre like think about it do do you know anyone who ever like grew up and was like you know what I want to be a senator because that person is probably fucking insane

you'd have to be nuts to like grow up to be like I want to control other people's lives there's just like you know how there's like the list of different types aliens on earth in those conspiracies like the grays part of the grays the little green men

the Nordic aliens which is one for some reason the berserkers no no like there was basically like people get abducted did say that you know some of the people look super super super scandinavian so like we're being we're being like racially prejudiced against aliens yeah i have no idea uh that was like something that like post malone was going off about how there's different types of aliens these aliens are real hard workers clock in clock out put a hard hat on these guys uh there's like i'm just

looking at the Wikipedia page right now, and then, like, you know, the reptilians and reptileoids who are like, date back to ancient Egypt. That is a fun rabbit hole to go down. The reptilian? David. David, Ike. Is Ike or Ike? David, Ike.

That fucking guy is, that is a, that there's a whole reptilian race and they are, I can't even remember Hillary Clinton, right? Isn't she reptilian humanoids, the ideas was popularized by David Ick, a conspiracy theory. who claim shape-sifting reptilian aliens control Earth by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate human societies. It can state on multiple occasions

that the world leaders are or are possessed by so-called reptilians. This was a huge YouTube conspiracy. They were one of the first ones, actually. Yeah. The reptilians, I remember seeing they take, like, all this footage of people, like, giving speeches. Unlike the cable news feed that they didn't show actually on television,

but like in the seconds before they would be on the air. And they'd be like, look at this person. he's like Alex Jones go like these guys look at his eyes look at his band's eyes or snake almost reptilian nom eyes

George Bush just like licking his own eyes yeah yeah there is there's some weird shit like I think George Bush was just coked up I honestly

didn't uh didn't Alex Jones go down to reptilian rabbit hole yeah he was his what was his I think he dabbled but he's never been

really into like extraterrestrial shit as much as he's been like Barack Obama smells like sulfur. I talked to a lot of people that have been around. Hillary Clinton says that she smells like hell, like actual, like there's strange smoke coming out of him. George W. Bush himself planted thermite in the towers. Dude, this stuff's crazy. And like the alien induction narratives

alleged contact with reptilian creatures. Like reptiles are super earthly. Like we're thinking about. Like they've been around like dinosaurs like. So yeah, that would go back to remember our dinosaur podcast. And we were talking. about that one species that was super intelligent that sort of looked like it could have evolved into an alien type thing yeah so they're living on the bottom of the ocean and those are what the crafts are so gotcha okay solved it aliens at the bottom figured it if there were aliens from other galaxies they they probably would have rolled over like when we had dinosaurs on our planet just to check them out yeah right but wait um think about it yeah we're also

like on the outskirts of our galaxy too that's another factor like we're like in the burbs like we ain't even in the city we're in the flyover how are the schools what's crime like like is it safe for aliens I feel like if you're in if you're way out at the end you'd probably go there right

if you're an alien yeah but it's not where things happen like we're like in the outskirts before you enter like another town like that like in the middle of nowhere that's where we're like a trailer font yeah yeah that's probably good good analogy so my sort of wrap up theory on why this UFO report came out and all that stuff is that this is the main kicker some of these steps are resource

intensive and would require additional investment I think that the Pentagon is pimping out their UFO photos to get more funding from the government and that's like to like fund other stuff And you know what? Maybe they need the money for something. I mean, like, no one's given money to do any more wars. So they need to find a new way to get funding. Yeah. I don't hate that theory, too, because if you look at what's in the report,

the reports, basically nothing. So I'm going to summarize the report. It's got an executive summary, which is, I always love reading executive summaries because it makes you feel important. But I'm going to do an executive summary of the executive summary. Ready for that? It's, they looked at a bunch of sites. Just explained the plot of inception.

Oh, for real? Let's go. All right. Thank you. Thank you, aliens. I am going to summarize this. It's pretty much we've seen. We've had reports of 140-something unexplained aerial phenomenon.

And we can't explain them at all. There are confirmed sightings, but we can't explain what they are. We don't know what they are. But they could be aliens. You better give us some money. and if they're not aliens, probably the Russians or the Chinese spying on us, so you better give us some money for that so we can develop higher technology and get better technology than they have spying us, so we can spy on them.

That's pretty much the executive summary of the executive summer. If the siting of the craft that supposedly dropped 50,000 feet in elevation in a second or whatever, would you rather that be aliens or Russia? aliens Russia What Because if it's aliens I don't think there's a good answer

No because if it's aliens They Haven't fucked with us Even though they could I do think that's That would be the If it's Russia On the same

We better have our own ship That's ready to go That can drop 81,000 feet Hyperis This is why I hope it's Russia Because if it's aliens It ruins my Hypoth

No, I'm not in my hypothesis. It ruins my perception of how smart I think they are, right? And how you would engage in a foreign civilization. If it's Russia, it's exactly your logic, right? They got it and they haven't done anything yet. This might be the scout, though, from the aliens. This might be the first one. We've been having these sightings for fucking decades.

Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not really that long. It's like, yeah. It's like a whole human's life. Yeah, but in like long-term big picture, it's not that big of a, they could be one of the first scouts. So, so Russia's like holding this lifelong secret, like one day we're going to fucking have global dominance, but not yet. I don't think it's Russia or China. They like, they both have like their, you know, like their aircraft carriers are like trash compared to ours. Yeah.

Like literally like I was reading about that shit, Billy. Yeah, they're trash. Like, they're pretty good, like, compared to the rest of the world. But, like, they have trash, like, military technology. Like, if you just look at it from a big picture, they have boats that you can land planes on. That's pretty cool. But if you compare them to actual real aircraft carriers. Like, what the United States has, yeah.

And then, like, also they're, um, they don't even have stealth bombers. What a bunch of pussy. Yeah. They don't even have blackbird stealth bombers. Like, couldn't be me. Like, yeah, they can beat up on like. I got extras. shit like we we crash one of those a year like it's cost of doing business over here i mean we

literally pump so much money into our military like we bet it's so funny we'll send one like we'll send two to saudi arabia if they just asked politely russia can't even build their own with a bunch of broke business like there's so much connections between uf ufo hysteria and the cold war and all that so i could see this just being another one of those like roswell was in 46 right right after I thought it was 51. I could be wrong. Or something was found in 46, but like it was just drumming it up for the Cold War.

All right. Here's the thing about this report is it clearly acknowledges for one of the first times. It's only recently that the government has acknowledged that there are UFOs that we cannot explain that move in ways that we don't understand. It acknowledges that. It said it like officially says from the mouth of the government, yes, these are real. We have seen these.

We've observed them. that's kind of a big deal but it doesn't really go beyond that in investigating it or offering really any serious explanation for what they were so yeah it does seem to me like

I don't know why the government would release this report or commission this report unless it was to just get more money pumping for future studies right yeah there's just no um for them to just

come out of it's basically out of nowhere right because like this isn't a new phenomenon so it's kind of like out of nowhere they just yo we don't know what this shit is it just seems very almost like it's a money almost like it was some congress people that wanted some headlines to be like hey we're the ones that commissioned this report we got the truth out that's also an angle yeah i haven't thought about that yeah i mean it could be like something i mean you They looked through all the phenomena and they listed it talking about it could be airborne clutter, birds, balloons, drones, airborne, debris, natural atmospheric phenomena, including ice crystals, moisture, thermal fluctuations that may register on infrared radar systems. U.S. developed technology, technology developed by foreign adversaries, or something that you couldn't say. So, like, they don't know.

You know, another reason why I don't think we've been visited or the government doesn't have any knowledge either. this is probably the biggest reason is because there's no way in hell dog Donald Trump don't blow that whistle when he leaves office there's no way he don't blow it Well isn't he the one who said that they had to come up with this report right?

Is he? Yeah he he he commanded it was in the COVID relief bill right that was like snuck in there's like hey we're going to give all this money for COVID but you have to tell us about that. Was that a Trump edition? Because we're going to talk to Harvey in a second and he specifically shouted out Marco Rubio and somebody else, which leads me to believe that maybe he was one of the

ones that put this in here. It's possible. I just remember, dude, I just remember there was one time, like, right after Trump had gotten elected that he was, like, doing a press briefing after, like, his, like, first day in office. And he just looked stressed. He was just like, like, and people were saying, like, oh, they just told, it was like on Twitter. It was like, oh, they just told them about everything. Yeah. As I was like, normal Donald Trump where he's, like, just smooth. Yeah, he's just like, yeah. He did have his usual spunk.

Yeah. He looked a little worried. Yeah, I do want to, I would love to get that briefing that you get first day in office. That's, just find out everything. Do you think that they like, you know, they're like, all right, here's to do with aliens and JFK. No, it's like, it's like you ask all the questions and then you get to JFK. You're like, so what happened to JFK? And they just say, ask too many questions.

You think the book of secrets is real? No, I don't think. I do enjoy that. program great film great film but I don't know I don't think that like somebody writes down all the bad shit that we've done in like one singular location I can't wait for national now's a now's a great time to bring them national treasurer oh I cannot wait for three I haven't seen two yet I love what I know I love bro let's have a watch party next time in New York yes be down I only saw one a couple months ago for the first time are you serious yeah two is probably better two is I agree two is two is fire to his fire okay god i love i'm gonna watch that tonight billy was a matter of fact i'm watching that shit tonight too billy was telling me earlier that he was thinking that uh that a lot of pilots don't report yeah seeing aliens so one of my first questions when this all came out like the 60 minutes things like oh there's all these navy reports like where the um commercial pilots who fly

way more frequently well maybe not but like there's tons of planes in the air every day And they fly at the same altitude, same everything. And why am they reported these things? And I actually got hit up. I tweeted that and they got hit up in my Twitter DMs from some guy on a burner. And he goes, yo, I work as an air traffic control person. And basically any time someone sees a UFO, they don't mention it. And they just ask, is there any air traffic supposed to be in the area right now?

And they give coordinates. And the person is like, no, like that's not a commercial flight. we have on record, and they just stop talking about it because the commercial pilots get mental health screenings every year and they, you know, have to pass so they don't want

anything to show up on their professional record that they're saying they're seeing unidentified shit in the air. Which goes, which... Bro, it's just, no, like, it's just sad, bro, that like, the investigation of UFOs has to be halted because people are afraid of losing

their jobs, that shit is crazy. seat yeah yeah so they're just like they just it's sort of like code almost between the air traffic controllers and the pilots that could it because it all gets recorded you know like the call logs between the radio it all gets recorded so they're just like starting traffic supposed to be in the area no flight 219 or you're free to go and then the pilot's just like fuck I got another one I hope this isn't the one that kills me it needs to be an anonymous suggestion box so we need to get a retired pilot on the show then if somebody is a retired pilot

Sully Sully. The reason The reason they all know this is that most commercial pilots are former Air Force pilots and they all sort of get the jargon like flight school like of large planes is sort of a pretty insular community because they all went to the same

training places out in Colorado and whatever. So they kind of know like yo dude like if you see a UFO don't say anything or they're going to fuck you on your mental health screening. I like Billy's dramatic reading of conversations between pilots. Yeah. White school.

Hey. Hey. So if you fucking, like, see some shit, like, don't say it because then you'll be fucked. Just ask is any traffic? Some guy comes, after you graduate from flight school, some guy comes in a trench coast thing. Let me hot at you real quick. All right. Let's get to our interview with Harvey Levin from TMZ.

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You've got a special coming out. TMZ investigates UFOs, the Pentagon Proof. It's coming out Tuesday, June 29th on Fox. That's today. It drops today because this episode's coming out tomorrow. So you're going to be analyzing the U.S. government's official response to UFO conversations from an investigative standpoint. So you've got interviews and you're showing.

entirely new footage. Can you just give us a, let's do a headline grab real quick. What is the new footage? What can we be expecting to see when we tune in? Well, it is aerial footage, well, excuse me, it's cell phone video that was shot by a member of the military. And it is the first video you see in connection to a certain incident. But it is a building block of what is just undeniable at this point. I mean, when you look at this report, the government said, threw its hands up and said, we don't know. We don't know. And that's scary, right, that the Pentagon is saying, we don't know. 143 out of 144 incidents they looked at. They don't have a clue. So what we did in this, in the special, is we looked at the five possibilities of what the government

said it could be. U.S. technology, foreign adversaries, natural phenomenon. Airborne debris and other. Other is the fifth. And we go through them one by one with a Harvard scientist and former Pentagon officials, Navy pilots, U.S. senators. You know, we really cover this well. And I think what you're going to see is all but one of those things gets knocked off the table. All right. And I'm just curious to know your personal, like going into this,

was your point of view on aliens? Like, were you a believer? Were you agnostic? Were you like on the fence about things? Or what was your mindset before you started to look at all the footage? I didn't really know enough to form a specific opinion. And I really don't have one now. I mean, I always thought it was so arrogant of people to say, oh, there can't be intelligent life other than ours in the entire universe. It just seemed dumb to me to say that. And so what really made me think, while we were working on this over the last month or so, you know, I'm old enough to remember when I was a kid, there was no, we never went to space. There was no such thing as rockets that went into space this way. And then all of a sudden, it's like, all of a

sudden, in 60 years, just 60 years, we have landed a man, we have gone into space, landed a man in the men on the moon, we have gone to Jupiter and Pluto and now we're going into interstellar space. So if you believe that there is intelligent life somewhere else and we can go that way, why can't they go in the opposite direction? Because we did this in 60 years. And suppose they have a 200 year jump on us. Think of what you could do with technology in 200 years, how everything changes. So I am absolutely open to the possibility that this is coming from another star system because it's not American technology. It's not foreign technology. I am convinced to that. No country on earth can do the things some of these objects can do, period. They can't go from

80,000 feet to sea level in a second and a half. They can't break the sound barrier without a sonic boom. They can't fly without wings and a tail and a propulsion system and exhaust. They can't do any of those things. So this is not human made. And there's certainly, I think, not natural phenomenon because the video we're going to show tomorrow night as well as videos that are already out there, these things fly in formations. And all the pilots say it. They are intentional movements with a number of these at once. So what you're left with, I think, is the bucket other. And that could be paradigm changing.

All right. I want to toss it to Aaron real quick because I know, actually, Aaron, you and you and Harvey have a bit of a pass, don't you? Not really. A little bit, man. Do you want to get into that? Let's say that. Let's ask UFO stuff and then we can get into the other stuff. Yeah, okay. So I'm a skeptic, my G. I'm a skeptic, man. I 100% believe that there is life outside of our planet. I 100% believe that like the Drake equation, stuff like that is just, there's just too much out there for them not to have life developed. But I'm a huge skeptic when it comes to shit like this because it just doesn't make any sense.

as to why they wouldn't try to communicate with us in a more non-settled way. It's very ambiguous, right? And it's just like all of this sounds like it could be explained away. And so, like, I'm curious as to why you're so convinced that it's not human technology or it's not like a collective bias or something like that. Well, first of all, I agree with you. I was really, I'm puzzled by what you just said, too, that why is it so subtle? Why, you know, I asked some of these people that, why doesn't it come down and make itself known if it's just dancing around?

And, you know, the response I got back was you're imposing human qualities on something that we have no idea what it is. But I understand what you're saying, and I frankly agree with you. But I'm saying to you technologically, when you really look at the data, when you listen to the scientists, you listen to the pilots and people at the Pentagon, the government can't physically, I mean, Think about this. If there was a vehicle that could traverse the air and the ocean without propellers, without any propulsion system, without exhaust, without wings, and it could be stealth without breaking the sound barrier and making a sonic boom, if it could do all of these things, wouldn't they employ that both for military and commercial purposes? I mean, think about it. If you could go to Paris today in five minutes from Los Angeles, I mean, you would own the travel industry, yet nobody's tried to develop any of that. If you were a government that had this information, you could own the world with technology because nobody could fight you. And yet none of it has ever surfaced. And there is absolutely no evidence we can do anything like that.

If you go from 80,000 feet to sea level in a second and a half, you know, we talk to people in the Pentagon, a human body can't sustain the force of that, nor could a machine, yet it does. And that's why I keep going back to that conclusion. So we're 100% sold on the fact that this video footage that you have is, that's what that's what it shows. It shows a machine or a craft going those. speeds with that much force. And you're 100% convinced, like, that's what it is and it's not anything else. I'm not 100% at all. What I am is, I don't believe it is human built. I mean, some of them. I mean, again, we're lumping a lot into one category. UFOs simply mean, we don't know what it is. And probably there are some that are this and some that are that, but I'm saying

that when you get to the ones that are truly, there's something called a TikTok video, you know, And when you look at the ones that are truly mystifying, that defy physics, at that point you've got to say, I'm not saying everything in the air is that at all. I'm saying there are some that you just can't get explanations for where it would make sense that a human being could create it and maneuver it. And I'm certainly not buying, you know, clutter. It's not a plastic bag. it's not a balloon. You know, there are something that say, that are stationary, excuse me,

that are stationary where their wind is 120 knots. Balloons don't do that. So when you just look at the science of it, you can keep eliminating all these things. Now, what is other? I can't give you an answer to other, but I do think some of those fall in the other bucket. All right. So we've talked on this show before about how there have been, been so many videos that have come out in the last several years, but we haven't seen anything like real clear. They're always like the shittiest quality video. They looked like they're filmed with like a Motorola razor, like technology from, you know, the early 2000s. Nothing that's crystal clear. And Harvey, I think that you as as the head of what we can probably call

the most trustworthy, uh, largest news gathering organization in America, you can have a direct impact on that. Like if you, if you incentivize your people to instead of like, taking pictures of celebrities, if you're like, I'll pay double a celebrity picture if you can go out to the desert and, you know, point your camera at the sky instead of like at Lindsay Lowen's nipple and you can find a UFO for me, boom, that's cash for you. I feel like you could actually turn this whole thing on its head. I get the joke. I mean, I really do get the joke and point taken. But look, I mean, I agree with you that, you know, it is weird that we haven't gotten images that are clearer than what we've seen.

I agree with you. I can't answer it. I don't have the answers to that stuff. And I'm not going into this thing saying, it's definitely this. We're more looking at what it isn't. And then what are you left with? And then what are the possibilities?

So look, I can't answer that question. I think it's a really good question. And I'm puzzled by it too. And I ask people that in the documentary. the same question you just asked. And I'm not satisfied yet that I understand that. In fact, I know I don't understand it. I can't tell you why there aren't clearer pictures. I mean, one of the things they say is, you know, these objects are 25,000 feet in the air, some of them, a lot of them, and our jets go 300 miles an hour and getting any image is really something.

And I get that, but you're right. Over time, you know, when these things are being seen everywhere, why not a clearer picture? I just can't answer it. Cool, you got anything? Yeah, I got two things. One, like, how hard is it for you to sit on a video for something like a Fox special when your business is like paid views

and being the first of something? How hard is it to be like, I've got this, but I want to actually save it for something else? No, this wasn't hard at all. And, you know, one of the people who gave us the video, you know, we worked with on the show. We made a consultant on the show. So, yeah, I mean, it's just a different rhythm for what, you know, what we do elsewhere, but not at all. I mean, we really, really wanted to look at this where, you know, where this is really like a serious, serious subject.

And we just literally finished it today. So, you know, because the report came out on Friday. And, you know, we had to address things in the report. So we really brought this right. up to the finish line and it wasn't hard at all. I mean, because, you know, again, I can't tell you what the video we have. I can't tell you what it represents. I mean, it's, it's, you know, you're going to see intentional movements, which seem to knock out rocks and whatnot or natural phenomena, clutter or anything like that. And, you know, you've just got to watch the whole thing put together. You know, and the other thing is, why is the government covered this up for 74 years? Well, my next question was going to be, what is your estimation for why are they, like you just say, they drop something on Friday?

Why do you think you've worked in media and news for a long time? Why now? Why are they releasing so much specifically now? When the government passed the law ordering that the task force produce a report, the report had to come in by June 25th. That was last Friday. And so they had six months to do it. and they had a guy who was leading the task force who was mysteriously reassigned at the beginning and really only had a couple of people who didn't have top security clearance working on this.

And it wasn't their full-time job in the Pentagon. It was what they were supposed to do on the side. So in a way, it's a miracle with that kind of underfunding, understaffing, and lack of adequate security. It's pretty amazing they came out with anything, but they waited. I mean, have you, did you ever, do you guys ever do a term paper in college where you waited until the last minute? I, I mean, I think in a way, it's not dissimilar. Huh.

Billy, yeah, I think. So what, oh, real quick, real quick, what did you think of the report? Did you see the report? What did you think of it? Well, what did I think of it? I mean, I could read that in the bathroom. It was nine pages and one of them was a cover sheet. The report answers nothing in terms of what this is.

what these things are. It's inconclusive, inconclusive, and so on. The two things I think that are really, really relevant here are one, they agree this is a national security threat, which I think is maybe the fundamental point, that when we don't know what's flying around in our skies, things that almost hit military jets, things that could hit a commercial airliner, we got to know this now, and we got to figure it out. So the fact that they called that kind of threat as long as don't know, which inspires people to keep this investigation going is a good thing. And the second thing that I think is really important in this is we interviewed a bunch of, we interviewed people who are former Pentagon people and others who were really attacked for doing their jobs and

coming out and saying, you know, in the department, look, we've got to look at something that people didn't want to look at. And they told them to shut up or else. And if they didn't shut up, they went after him. And we interviewed this one guy. I mean, they ruined his life. And the irony is, is that the Pentagon is now saying, yeah, we shouldn't engage in retribution. We should embrace these people so they come forward. Well, if they're serious about that, that's a really good thing. Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned like the cover sheet on the report because reading through it, it's a nine-page report. The first page is a cover sheet. Second page is essentially just a definition of the paper that you're about to read. And then the last two pages,

are appendixes. It's actually like it's really a goal for any college student to be able to like thicken out of paper as well as the United States government has done here. It's really just like 50% if that actual content. When I was in law school, my roommate and I, I went to law school at University of Chicago, which is in Hyde Park. And we used to take the train into downtown Chicago and we'd go to a gym there. And we had a contest because that's just when people magazine came out. Which one could read People magazine the fastest on the train before it arrived at the gym? And it reminded me of that when I looked at this nine-page report. It was like, boom, I know UFOs now. Yeah. I actually think that the person that was in charge of writing it probably

did wait until the last minute. They're like, okay, I got five pages. I need to figure out how I can make this thing nine quick. Okay, two cover letters, two cover sheets. Got it. I'll double space. They leave like a couple pages that are, they have a big gap at the bottom of it too. they really did a great job getting this sucker up to nine pages yeah it was well i felt the same way because first thing i thought is oh my god do i have enough paper to print this thing and then and then i looked and i thought oh my god yeah bill you anything uh just a quick question i was looking at all the surface level documents that were you know given out by government the one on friday that we just talked about and some stuff on wiki leaks i was just wondering did you ever

encounter any of these sightings or phenomenons above, you know, 300,000 feet or in space in places where we could, you know, actually above certain levels where regular aircraft can't fly. Were there any examples of something from the space station or on rocket launches? Because that's, most of these sightings are in, you know, surface level to where airplanes fly. Was there anything that would indicate that these were actually flying in outer space or above the atmosphere? I think that's a great question. And the answer is no. We never encountered that. And I get your point, too, that you would think that you might see something like that, you know, from a different vantage point like the International Space Station. But then again, that's one

space station in space. So, and we haven't been there all that long. So the other thing we don't know is what does the government know that we don't? Because they said a lot of this stuff is classified. So I don't know. Maybe they did see something up there. We're never going to find out. And you know, that may well be the case. So no, the answer is, I never saw

I never heard that and I never saw it. But I also understand your point on how important that would be. Have you personally ever seen an alien? No. Never seen a UFO? I'm not I'm not one of those guys that believes, you know, I believe in the grassy knoll theory, but I don't believe in aliens, that I didn't believe in aliens that it had to be. I think it's a possibility.

And the more I look at this, the more I think we're just eliminating all this stuff. And so, you know, we've been like indoctrinated to believe anybody who embraces that is crazy. And, you know, and then you see movies. that make it absurd. So I'm not willing to say it's absurd. And I'm completely open to it. But I don't know what it is. I just feel like I've got,

I'm confident of what it isn't. Yeah. We've been conditioned to be afraid of aliens, I think, through movies, through TV, through literature. It's always, you know, the start of a giant war between Earth and whatever alien life force is coming down to, you know, try to take over the plan or whatever it is. that European colonization shit.

Exactly. It's like it's a little bit of projection, right? It's like this is what we would do if we were aliens. And so do you think that I guess like we've been taught to almost like live in fear of meeting aliens for the first time. And now that there are all these doubts out there, all these different reports, all the footage that's come out. It seems like we're closer than ever to basically acknowledging that aliens, it's a very real possibility that they're here and that they're, you know, they're flying through the sky. And they have been here for quite some time. But I don't get the feeling from anybody like, no one's freaking out about it.

Is that surprising to you? Or would you think that there would be more fear that's like outwardly demonstrated from the people that are coming forward to these experiences? You know, I've talked to people who are looking at this who say it's more, they'd be more scared if it was a foreign government than if it was a life form outside the country, you know, our solar system. So I look, I don't know. I kind of have the same sense you do.

I don't feel people are afraid of this anymore. And maybe it's just all the crap we've been through over the last 10 years. But, you know, maybe that's what it is, is that, you know, people, you know, we've endured things and overcome things. And, you know, maybe it's just people are not scared of something they were scared of before because it was just a concept. And now there's a construct. There's information. There's data. Credible people are talking.

And I think curiosity has become more. powerful than fear. Big T. I think y'all about covered it. I just, I'm curious to watch because I'm much like Aryan and very skeptical. I fall under, I think, Carl Sagan said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And that's kind of where I said. So if we're claiming, I, I am content to say that I don't know, that like, if they're unidentified, they're unidentified, that's fine with me. But if we're claiming that it's aliens, I want some pretty hard proof there. So I'm very curious to see what's in there. Yeah, no, I mean,

again, we are not going to tell you these are aliens, but we are going to show you what the possibilities are and the things you could think, oh, I can dismiss it with that. You're going to have much more trouble doing it at the end of the hour. This isn't going to be like when they do Shark Week and Michael Phelps is like allegedly going to swim against the shark and then they put him in the ocean. It's a fake shark swing. You're not here to swindle us, are you? You went that to us, Harvey. No, it's really plenty. No, we are not, we are not battling aliens on the show, no. You got the goods, though. We're going to see some shit that we haven't seen before. I hope so. I mean, I'm really proud of this and my team did a great job. And, you know, I,

it's, I think this, you're going to hear a lot of really credible people. A lot of really credible people. And I think the cumulative effect of it is pretty powerful. Okay. Anything else? Bill Yussam. I have a last question. Peppered throughout a lot of these documents, you see stuff like, for example, in the nine page one, this was at the end of the executive summary. Some of these steps are resource intensive and will require additional investment. Much of this looks like, you know, these various programs are looking for more funding and, you know, the Pentagon is looking for more funding for these objects. Do you think there's an element of with how things are scaling back in the Middle East? and how the geopolitical stuff is rolling out, that this might be sort of trying to gain funding and sort of resources for the Pentagon and the defense? I think that's a really smart question. I disagree that it is.

And I'll tell you why. I get your point and it's a good one. However, I mean, this was a shoestring budget. I mean, they had a couple of people doing this. It was, in a way, ridiculous. I mean, this needs to be like Jeremy, Corbell said on the show, he's one of the driving forces. It's got to be more like the Manhattan Project, you know, back in the 40s when they developed the atomic bomb. This is a serious subject.

We've got to tackle. And so they said we need more funding is that's one of the most important things that came out of the report because they're saying, let's not just close the book on this now. This should be the beginning and not the end. And I think Congress has the appetite, you know, with people like Marco Rubio, Senator Martin Heinrich, and others, I think they, leading this, I think they have the appetite now to push and fund this thing so that it becomes a much more serious study. But no, I mean, they had pennies to deal with compared to what the job was. And they do need funding and they do need resources.

And we do need a permanent commission to get to the bottom of this. So are you suggesting like, like skywide surveillance, that kind of thing? Because you're going to get like anti-government people up in arms. If this is like that kind of stuff that you're proposing? I don't know. The report talks about the fact that, I mean, there's no civilian. They never looked at any civilian sightings because they just didn't have the resources.

They looked at 144 things. Everybody thinks that goes back to 2007. It doesn't. That's like, they, there are. are 144 things in a couple of weeks, you know, in the air that they can't explain. So this was a very small sample they looked at. And, you know, I think that they're encouraging both military and civilians to come forward with this stuff. And yeah, it's going to open the floodgates and there are going to be all sorts of conspiracy theories. And honestly, I think it's going to go off the rails

because of all of that for a while. The question is, can they harness it and bring it back on? because there's going to be such a flood once this thing opens up. And some of the stuff's going to be ridiculous that it may compromise the effort. But I think if they can harness that and keep it on track, because I think it's going to go off track before it comes back on, then I think it's the long game we're talking about. And I really think that's what's important. So it says in the report here 144 reports since 2004.

But you're saying that most of those are just, That's very recent stuff. Yeah. They did not look at a fraction of the, I mean, look, we talked to one Navy pilot who was on one of the battleships in 2014 and 15. He saw these every single day and watch this guy in the show and tell me he is anything but a serious guy. He's a serious guy. I will watch. I'll be tuned in.

I think we all will. Keep watching the skies, Harvey. It's 8 o'clock, Tuesday night. on Fox Network, 7 Central, and I hope you can watch. And I'm serious, Harvey, put a bounty out, just say like TMZ will pay top dollar for any alien spacecraft footage that you might have. My fear is we would be overrun with things. That sounds good to me.

I would actually watch an entire TMZ show that was just dedicated to people that say that they've seen aliens and they just send in whatever footage they have. Just a business idea. That show has been done. Yeah, that's true. A few times. Anyway, guys, I really, really appreciate you letting me on and talk about this. I really do.

Thank you. Absolutely. All right. Well, good luck with everything. And we will be watching tomorrow or tonight on Fox. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it. Really nice talking to you.

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Next week, we are going to have a shorter episode, but a new episode nonetheless, featuring Zah. We're going to be interviewing Zah. You might know him here from Barceles's producer, and he's going to be talking to us about the time that he and his class. classmates saw aliens. There was a visitation at his school, the aerial school in Zimbabwe growing up for him. So we're going to ask him about that. We'll get into it. Interesting conversation. Before we get going for the day, we got to do some housekeeping here. And, Aaron, you need to tell me what color underwear big T's wearing.

I'm getting discouraged, bro. I haven't been correct since I think the first two times, I guess. You've gotten some waistbands. Yeah, I got some waistbands, some in the ballpark shades. Shit, let's go with, um, I'm going to green, like any kind of green, like a dark green. You're going green? I don't think it's green on us. I don't remember. Let's see. Let's see. Wait, hold it up.

Oh, it's navy blue. No, it's navy blue. You know, it's usually just navy blue. Yeah. Or black. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Well, that does it for this week's episode. How is Omaha, by the way? it was great a ton of people came up and said that they they love this show which i appreciate a bunch so y'all've got y'all've got a lot of fans out there all right did you do too did you murder anybody did not uh somebody did actually come up to me we were out one night and they were like dude if you were ever going to like kill somebody like this would probably be a good time to do it like like you're leaving and i was like i'm not planning on it but i appreciate i like how that's the brand that you've cultivated yourself the future murderer yes he's cultivated it

totally by himself i'm literally looking up the omaha murder report from this past weekend man feely shot north omaha and say six homicide of the weekend i don't like big tea with you six homicide of the weekend or six homicide of 2021 oh that's actually great not great for you that there's one of their very few homicides happened to a while you were in town yeah actually yeah we weren't in north omaha where were you so you said i totally i totally i I honestly don't know at all. Oh, my, North. We're like downtown.

That's got to be different from North. Holy shit. It's a small, it's a small trek, though. It's Omaha. Well, we were staying the opposite direction, so I don't. No, that's- Covered a lot of grounds. Yeah.

Not me. I don't know, I don't know a big T.A. Just if there's any investigators looking for possible suspects. About 6.4. 6.4. Are you crazy? I told you. six six six six six six six six and a half you're gonna add a half an inch yeah i mean you either

got to add or subtract what big t when we're as tall as we are you don't have to fudge the numbers it's not i'm not going to say six five and a half though so if you've got to pick one you go up well shoes six six you didn't earn that six six six i feel like i feel like if you could jump you can't you can't jump i think you just say six define being able to to jump. We can't jump. Can you can you dunk? I can lay the ball in and grab the rim. No, can't dunk. God, if I was, if I was six, six, I would be able to jam so hard. That's what everybody says and it's just not true. It is true. It is very, it means you can't jump. Mathematically. No, I agree. Mathematically, it's true. If you took my vertical and put it, if you put my legs,

if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike. Okay. That's good. I like that. And that's, our We're all in our pelagics bikes now, is that what you're out of control? Did your grandmother actually have wheels? No. Because that'd be, no point in your life, could you dunk? No, I can, I can grab the rim pretty ferociously. I mean, no ball.

I mean, I'm grabbing the shit out of that room. I dunked in high school. I, like, kind of lost it. How many times did you dunk? I could, like, dunk. I could, like, dunk, like, you know, when you're messing around after practice, like, but never in a game. I couldn't dunk with authority.

I got you. This is some breaking news real quick. Ray J is dating Wendy Williams. Whoa. Are you? It's like 55? Yeah, I'm dead serious. Ray J has to be an alien.

He is. There will be no Ray J. Slander on this podcast. That man is a legend. He's not. He's not. He's not a legend. It's odd that he's dating Wendy Williams, but who am I to judge? Love who you love, man.

The reading glasses clip of him is an all-time clip when he drops the glasses. No question. Wendy Williams' 57th birthday coming up in July. Are we going to? Good for her, I guess. I don't know who to say good for in that situation. She might get super famous after this. Wendy Williams is actually super-famous.

Maybe she'll get her on TV show. Very famous. I know, William. I, you remember that clip where she fainted? Yeah, that was, all-time clip. That was crazy. Like, in the office, people, like, we stopped working. We were like, is Wendy Williams dead?

Yeah, we thought that she died on television. And she was wearing a Statue of Liberty outfit. Yeah. You know what we should do before we wrap the aliens episode? Get everybody's all-time best alien movie. Oh, yeah. I like that. I'll kick it off.

I think the best movie of all-time aliens is a rival. Yeah. Okay. I've never seen it, actually. Oh, you're in for a treat. All right. So I got to check it out. Mm-hmm.

That's the one with, I'm looking it up right now. I don't know. It's got Jeremy Renner. Oh, yeah. It's the thing of Hawkeye from Avengers. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

It's the guy from the Jeremy Renner app. Oh, I mean, I can't choose. What? What the fuck? It sounded like you just had one. Dude, I was about to be, like, Independence Day. Oh, great movie. But then I was like District 9.

Mm. I like that one. I like that one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just like so, like, there's so many metaphors. Yeah. I'm going to tell you all something.

I'm scrolling through the supposed 35 best alien movies of all time. I think the only one I've seen is Lilo and Stitch. Mars attacks is my favorite. That's a good one. Great. Yeah. The Mars attack scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. I came out when I was like seven and this was too, too much for me.

How am I big? Do you never seen Alien movies? No. I tried to watch Men in Black one time. I think I fell asleep. I don't think I've ever seen alien movies. What's your movie genre of choice? I don't know, comedy, rom-coms.

Oh, okay. I'm a big rom-com. What are your top three? Oh, that's tough, dog. Um, he's just not that into you is probably up there. Ten things I hate about you is dope. It's a good movie. You've seen fever pitch?

Uh-uh. All time. Oh, that's like one of my favorite movies ever. All time. Okay. My favorite one, it just came out. Uh, it's about they get stuck in a time loop and, and he falls in love. Time travel was wife.

No, no, no. Oh, it was on Netflix. Fifty first dates. That's a dope one That's a rom-com, right? That's also another all-time movie Was that the crazy sad one that people were just watching? Uh-uh.

Okay. I would say, I mean, there are a lot of Adamson, like the wedding singer is a rom-com, right? Yeah, Adamson doesn't... He pretty much all he does is rom-com. I would go as far to say Big Daddy's a rom-com. Ooh. Yeah, you can make that.

It's a hot take, but I like it. What about... His new one with Jennifer Aniston, the Murder Mystery, don't? Yeah. I guess, you know what? That's a, it's a really good one,

I fuck with her. What about? My answer for the non-rom-com questions, attack the block. Okay. Attack the what? Attack the block. I haven't seen it.

How am I blanking on his name? Who's the, um, fuck. The super famous black British actor who's still crazy young. Idriselba? No. Young.

From Star Wars? Yes. John Boyega. John Boyega, it was his first movie. It was made by the dudes who who did like Sean of the Dead and stuff like that. It's a really, really

fucking good movie because they're aliens, but they're not like humanoid at all. They're almost more like apish. And they're literally just hunting one female that it crashes on a planet first and that's, they all come and mate with her.

And that's how they spread their population over each planet and these are just some like inner city british like their gang and they're the ones who get they catch the female one by accident and so all of the other males are just chasing them throughout like inner city england like black england and they are just like what do like they have to hide in a grow house like it's just a really good movie it's like really what is it called what does it call attack the block attack the bomb check that out brock attack the block oh and i found the rom-con the junk called um palm springs oh was that on amazon prime oh that's new i believe so

is that good it's fairly new that shit is fire bro hilarious too that was that andy sandberg who was that yeah i don't know i don't know no niggas name bro yeah i'm the where i'm the worst with that shit one of those white guys on the television it's Andy sandberg isn't it like Aubrey plaza there's like a bunch of good people on it I think so I'm gonna for my alien pick I'm going to say either Independence Day, because it's an all-time classic, or Starship Troopers. Ooh. Okay. Nice.

But that's more about us. I guess I could have said Avengers. That was technically on the table. Yeah. I still haven't seen any of those movies. End gang, yeah. I didn't get around to that. You had a whole quarantine to get around to that.

Exactly. Well, I spent my time watching Game of Thrones for the first time. Terrible choice. Yeah. You don't fucking game. of Thrones? No, I watched it. I can't. Listen, we didn't give the Falcons a Super Bowl ring because they had a lead through three quarters. You can't. Game of Thrones fumbled that ending as bad as any show has ever fumbled. But you can still enjoy. I mean, the first six seasons are unbelievable. Unreal. Like, just the script, the writing, the setting. That's why it's even more upset. Like, the writing was so good. It's almost inexplicable how poorly they ended it. Well, see, that's the thing. It's like, since I didn't have to wait, you know, weeks between episodes. and sometimes years between seasons. I watched it all in one sitting.

The last season actually wasn't as disappointing to me as I as other people made it seem. It was bad. Don't get me wrong. It wasn't good. By no means wasn't even average, but I wasn't like, I wasn't ready to throw my TV.

But there were two years of buildup to that. Yeah, exactly. Right. So I've never been watched it too. So I didn't get the same like, what are they doing? I just like, okay. I see my business.

Business probably had a big. big deals. Didn't like they were like arguing about the rights of who was writing it or whatever like there was a whole like this. Like they were signing on to do like Star Wars and shit while they were supposed to be writing this. Like they were already selling there. And then they got kicked off of that. Fired for that. Orly Game of Thrones. And then there was like the Starbucks cups in the background scenes. Remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They mailed it in for all the budget, all the resources they had. And I mean, it was kind of brilliant on George R. Martin's part because he could just be like, I, I would have never done it that way.

Wait for my book. That's clearly never coming. Never, never. You could, you could probably just pretend the show ends at the end of season six. Like, I won't say all this, all the shit that happens. But I'm saying like the way the last episode of six, all the stuff that happens, you could just pretend the show ends there. Like, I've never seen a second of lost.

And I know that's another show that starts off similarly hot and then just fucking tail spins at the end. So I'm interested to see if like, if I watch it. I don't think it's as bad as ever like sopranos like I've never seen the last season of soprano so like am I going to hate that ending I think a lot of these shows right they like the good ones that make people addicted to them and watch all just have a bunch of questions that no one ever actually has an answer to and it's like a Ponzi scheme of just like more questions more wrinkles and then it's like gets the supposed to end and they just don't know they can't deliver there was nothing breaking bad's ending wasn't bad so like i know it can be done yeah the wire didn't end

poorly the wire ended like perfectly so like i know it can be done that's why i can't like we're talking huh i've actually never seen the wire the wire is super interesting i i heard you i like season two is where people uh opinions differ of whether or not it's quality or not i think it's really good tyler for instance fucking hates it he hates the wire or the second season. Gotcha. And he watched it recently for the first time. I liked the second season.

It's noticeably different in like pace from the other seasons, but it's still good. They're all good. Every season that show is just awesome. I think you would like it, Aaron, from like the way it portrays all levels of society, all doing different types of similar dirt. That's a good analysis. Yeah, I'll definitely check it up for show. All right.

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