Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Aliens (Part 2) ft. Zah

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

On today's episode we continue the Alien discussion with our good friend from Barstool Sports, Zah, who actually had an encounter with aliens at the age of 5 in Zimbabwe. You don't want to miss this one.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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This is going to be slightly better than last week, but not that much better. We don't want to set the bar too high for ourselves. But we got into aliens last week. We had Harvey on. This week, we have our first in-studio guest, I believe. And he's an employee here at Barstall. You might know him already. He is producer Zah.

He is, I think you're actually probably the most, it's like you and Spider, I would say, are the two most universally well-liked people at Barcelona. You won't find anyone that, like, people talk shit about Big T all the time. Yeah. Everyone hates him. But like, Spider and Zah, those are the two guys where it's like, I think everybody here at this company would probably die for you. Oh, stop it. Stop it.

I'll put you up there. Coley, too. You just, see, that's why people like you, Zah, because you'll take a compliment, you'll turn it around. But Zah, he grew up in Zimbabwe, and we were talking about aliens last week. None of us, I don't think, have had a first person experience with aliens. We haven't, right? Madeline? No, no one here, but Zah has.

And so we wanted to get him on to tell a story about growing up in Zimbabwe, what he's seen and what he believes about aliens. So Zah, the floor is yours, my man. Oh, God. First of all, thank you. Thank you for having me. I guess, yeah, I guess we just get right into it. So at my primary school, my nursery, nursery school, I went there to primary school, aerial school, a tiny little school outside of Harare, Zimbabwe, in a town named Rua. Okay, I want you to teach Big T how to pronounce that real quick.

Harare. That one's easy. Harare? Yeah, that's easy. There you go. You got it. There we go. Small little town, Rua, outside of Harare.

It's probably, I'll say, 20 k's 20 kilometers outside. So that's like, what, 10 miles, 10, 12 miles outside of the main city? We got a little visit. We got a little visit from aliens during our break time. So it was during recess. You guys watch Harry Potter, right? Yeah. So you know what the prefect is?

I'm not sure. They're like the, like a JA, an RA kind of? Kind of, there we go. So it's an RA, it's an RA for whatever level of school that you're at. They usually pick them from, they pick them from the highest level, the highest grade and whatever level you're at. So in elementary school, they pick them from like the seventh graders. So it's the seventh grade, seventh grade kids that are showing potential, leadership potential and all that. They give them a little, you know, a little bit of extra responsibility.

They're nerds. Yeah. There you go. We had safety patrols is what we have. Did you guys, I'm curious because it's funny that this is something that like transcends cultures. Did you have, did they wear like the orange straps over their shoulders? So, no, so I always had little, they had stars that they'll put on you. So they had a star and a red mark.

So if you did something good, so like if they saw you pick up litter, you'd get a star, then, you know, red mark and all that. And depending on how many red marks and how many stars you get, you can either get in trouble, detention, you know, get rewarded and all that type of stuff. Okay. So those guys are in charge at break time, you know, they watch over the kids as we play a little cricket, you know, in the corner playing a little cricket. There's other kids playing football and that other corner enjoying ourselves and all. Teachers were having a staff meeting that particular break time. They usually have their staff meetings then while the kids watch over and stuff like that. So as they were having their staff meeting, all of a sudden, you know, we're messing around and all that in the grounds.

We just see something bright. So Ariel, I don't know if you look at the map, if you look at the map, if you go on Google Maps and and look at it. The aerial school. The aerial school. And it's A-R-I-E-L. Yes, sir. So if you look at Google Maps, it's surrounded by farmlands.

It was a farming area. So it's a middle of bumfuck nowhere, where it's a school. It was for the farming community, pretty much. And a little spoilers for what's coming ahead. But, yeah, so there you go. So open land, middle of, I think that might be. I can't really see that. But yeah, that might have been it.

Open land. You guys have a nice tennis court there. Clay courts. Yeah, I was going to say it's clay court. Clay courts. Yeah, because that's the cheapest way to go, cheapest way to go type of thing. So open land, middle of bumfuck nowhere in the farm.

So we're just, you know, we're messing around. And all of a sudden, a bright light just appears from the sky. So it's like, what the fuck is this? It's just middle of the day, bright light appears from the sky. we all run towards the fence towards the fence to go see what the hell is going on right so this thing fucking starts hovering hovering starts coming down

it comes down and it settles it settles little you know little people little aliens come out and they walk outside on the so they were probably I'd say I'd say probably 50 yards 50 so as you saw the farmlands it was 50 yards away from I was like 30 to 50 yards away from our actual fence type of

things. So they come out and they start walking around. It's like really, really bright type of shit. The kids, one of the kids runs into the staff room. One of the kids runs into the staff room and alerts the teachers they're like, hey, there's something going on out there.

You know, so a little kid comes into the staff room, you know, teachers, tell teachers, hey, what's something going on? It gives five minutes type of shit. So shoot him off and continue what they were doing. Another kid came in and they were like hey there's something going on was the first kid that went in there was he he was one of the uh the young guy no no so that was the mistake should have sent in the patrol

that was the selling point though so that was i think that was the second or third kid that went in was was a prefect that came in so three kids is three too many to come in and say yo something fucking weird is coming out so one of the teachers came outside and uh and what's it called and caught a glimpse of the actual fucking thing as it was as it was leaving so they got to see it and because of that this is the whole they were the main they were the main confirmation so next week it's it's the middle of it's it's in the middle of nowhere uh ruah right it's you know it's mainly just zimbabwe and kids within like a week or however many days next thing we know we got your professors researchers from like harvard we got tv cameras that was the first time i'd ever seen a fucking tv

camera in my life, you know, and, you know, people flying in asking us questions and what you actually pull, what you had pulled up, PFT. So what they did to confirm the story, right, is they said that every single kid that was there, we were all held in isolation, all held in isolation, and if you go on the Google page, you'll see it. If we were held in isolation and we were told to draw what we saw on that particular day, all in isolation, the pictures were on. If you Google aerial school and check out the images, the pictures are on there of the kids that they draw. And guess what? It all, it all looked, they all looked exactly the same.

So those were those pictures at the, at the kids. Okay, were they, what were they wearing? Did they close? It was, so from what I remember, it was just bright. It was bright. It was so long ago. And I, I, that's actually one thing. It's, it just so happened that it landed where it was like 12 year olds.

I would have appreciated that more if it, if it happened to. today in 20, when I know what's going on with life, like 21 and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So they made us, held us, held us in isolation, made us draw that. And then, you know, we had researchers from like Harvard. We had the BBC. There's documentaries now, like the phenomenon and, and all sort of all, all kinds of nonsense around that whole one day.

Did you get interviewed? No. No one talked to you. So they talked to the younger, they talked to the older kids. Okay. They talked to mainly the old kids. And what was it like afterwards? Like, did you guys realize how crazy was?

Or were you young to the point where it was like, oh, I guess aliens just visits, that's cool. Yeah. So it's only now where, as I alluded to a little earlier, it's, I would have appreciated, it would have been more. I would have appreciated it more now with what I understand and what I know in life. And, you know, I was five years old, six years old running around, you know, you see something all, whatever. It's now more remembering. So I tell the story because each time, each time, it's such a big story that each time you meet people, I tell the story more than I actually remember of that actual day.

So it's more, I've told the story every single time I meet someone new. So you remember more of the story than actually what happened because it's just so long ago. 95, 94. But you remember like the media coming around. That was, yeah, that was that was, that was a lot of, I mean, it was white. Zimbab was a, Zimbab was a tiny country. You only, you only usually see those of your kinds. So you start seeing different races, different kind of people coming in.

I was like, oh, what the hell's going on here? So, so have you ever talked to anybody that went to your school that might have been a little bit older than you? Like, after the fact, do you ever reconnect? Is there like a Facebook? Is there a Facebook group about, hey, remember the time we all saw aliens? Yeah, I mean, a lot of like the people, the people that were in my grades and the people that I know and stuff, like my friends and stuff. Like, it's, yeah, I mean, we, it's, yeah, we, we still in contact. We know each other and all there, but we don't really do.

It's, I guess, here and there when we, because we've all gone to different parts of, like, I'm here in America, these people in England and all that. When we do reconnect it, that's not the main thing that we talk about. But yeah, we bring it up. It's like, yeah, this is cool, kind of weird. Erie, you got anything? I know, man. I never discount people's experiences, right?

This is what you experienced. I'm just a skeptic in general. And so, like, when you recount, I mean, recall, like, not necessarily the event, but you recall the hoop lie around it when researchers and all of them people were, asking you the things what what became of those inquiries like that investigation there's big there so there's if you google it there's documentaries i believe the bbc has like a documentary that they did i know there's one of the bbc there's a new uh there's a new on which i actually have to watch i haven't watched it on on air on on on Netflix a new thing

of netflix called the phenomenon it's based off it's based off that event and i guess there's there's academic literature i'm guessing around around that which i mean i'm not an academic so i wasn't really interested in that but there was a lot a lot of people came and and did what were uh where were like the recess games you guys would play uh cricket so a lot of cricket the equivalent i guess is baseball here yeah cricket we played cricket we played touch rugby touch rugby and uh soccer football the m3 now zah i totally you know i've known you for a while i don't think there's but a lot of there's a lot of criticism of this event and um i actually in reading it there's uh talking

about the i am kind of convinced because you had various people um you know if you i was reading something and said that a area was actually kind of diverse as a school there was like locals uh natives and bobbyans it's farmlands right so the farmers around there and then there was like um uh people with indian descent from india who were also there like like i i i'm I'm not sure the whole makeup, but it was sort of multicultural and they each interpreted it in their own way. They all thought, like, for example, you know, they thought they were spirits or beings from different, like, religion. So everyone interpreted it differently. So they were all calling it different things.

But there's this, you know, with that, everyone then described the same thing, but interpreted it differently. from what you remember and from what other people gathered and told you was there ever a point where you all sort of got together and agreed upon what you saw so what so that's the pictures so what you saw is the pictures how what what what happened why it happened is that that comes into you know what self interpretation what you believe why they came there you know it's it's all that but what we saw is the pictures that were told to draw and all that is that did i answer you yeah yeah i mean i i believe you but i'm just bringing up like the because there's another aspect where people have you ever heard of mass hysteria uh no what so there was several um epidemics in africa

yeah around the 90s where um there was for example at a school in south africa there was a laughing fit where the whole school laughed and couldn't stop laughing that's happened before yeah i want to say it was like like central europe where it happened a long long time ago that's hilarious i i i don't know what causes that shit but it's a real thing where everybody just like freaks out at the same time but yeah like a joke was told in a boarding school in tanzania and this joke triggered a small group of students start laughing it was in malawi uh sort of um so then your school was is under this um research paper yeah talking about in 1994 60 school children all reported seeing alien craft and it's under this whole umbrella of mass hysteria in africa in these schools and they try to think is it

related to malarial drugs is it related to so my question is was there any sort of event surrounding that time that you know of maybe implementation of a new... Did you get a vaccine? No, I'm not saying that, but like there's... Malarial drugs have been known to cause hallucinations. And that's one of the criticisms of it. Like, for example, in Zimbabwe, there was a mysterious madness in a Zambian school... In Zambia, where everyone got basically, like, everyone got super mad for no reason.

And there was these, like... And this is the only critical article, like I could say, is there anything that you remember that could have triggered a mass hysteria? I mean, I know that's very hard to ask, but I guess vaccine. When was polio? I forgot when polio was. I don't want to make this about vaccines because it's not about it. It's not about that. All right. So on another angle, African, Africans in general, African cultures in general are very, very, very superstitious. So there is always some sort of shit always some story that comes out of Africa every single week so you hear of people being you know being struck by lightning and still walking and and and all that crazy shit so it's i

what was that mass hysteria yeah like laughing fits um so it it's it's i mean it's it's it's it's it's a superstitious place it's it's very you know you hear of crazy shit coming out of there, which, which, uh, I do think we got to do, we got to do a full episode about mass hysteria events. Yeah. Because they are, they are fascinating. I'm reading up on a couple of them right now. Um, I mean, this is, I'm just bringing up critical parts because you have to address it when you looking at something like, just like, of course, but you know, I'm really curious is to your, uh, would you care of comment? Your, uh, your critiques of it. Like, because I mean, obviously the, the, like I said, I'll never discount anybody.

experience. If you think you saw something, it's what you saw, man. Um, but if, if you look at it, like from a critical, uh, from a critical standpoint, a critical view, like, I would not, I would not believe me. I wouldn't believe me at all. Okay. I mean, it's, it's crazy. You don't see, you don't see something like that. And so I don't, I don't blame you. And I'm not here to try convince you. I'm just here. I was asked to tell the story. I'm not here to try, try sell a facts. So I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't believe me at all. It's insane. It actually is that. So, so from your memory, like from your memory. Yeah. Because like you said you were five or six.

Yeah. Five or six. So it's like you, do you, when you, uh, recall it in your head like now, do you do you recall like vivid imagery of like of spacecraft or it's, it's the story. It's more the story now. It's, that was, that was a long time. I'm like 30. I'm 30 something.

Right, right, right, right. So like in your, in your head now that there's just no like. Yeah. It's more, it happened when now so, so young man where I, you know, I, I didn't even know what the fuck. That's what I was saying. If it happened, when we were older. Right.

So earlier on, when I was, when I was younger and stuff, I remembered it vividly. But the older, the old I got, you know, the images, it's more the story that now I, that I, that I remember and that I've told so many times. Did you guys, actual actual? Did, like, the local town? Did they ever try to cash in on it? Like, you know how Roswell here in America? It's like they have an entire industry set up to alien visitations. It's literally the poorest place on the planet.

It's, it's, well, not really poor. They didn't even build a museum. They didn't build a museum. They didn't do anything. So it's the lands, I think, are still there owned by some, the farmer that, the farmer that owns that land kind of deal where it's, you know, in another place, they would have built like a museum. There were no signs up that say like Harare, or I guess it's outside Hararee, right?

Yeah, outside of Harare. Nothing, nothing at all. Home of the 1994 alien visitation. Like, if that was in America, you better believe they would have like. Building a museum. Yeah. In a hamburger stand set up right here. Yeah, Netflix is one that's making money

of it. They're commercializing. They're doing I should, I actually happen. They should send some of that money back to the school. That would be nice. Back to the area of school. That would be very, very nice. Netflix, I'm calling you out, bitch. Send some of that sweet cash back. That would be more colonizing. Last question. My last question,

how did having that experience so young and had that almost be normalized that, you know, growing up like, oh, aliens came here. How did that shape your worldview? You know, to be honest, I didn't really realize what was going on. It was just, it happened that that one day it was weird type of deal. And it's, it's only now where you guys, it's only now when I, when I moved here, where where people here are obsessed with alien culture is big because of the movies and all that nonsense here. Massive. So it's only now where I get a lot of inquisitive minds and all that. There are a lot of Zimbabweans there that, you know, that have heard about the story and, you know, then seen or whatever, but just don't even give a fuck about it. Never asked. Never done any. Majority kind of deal.

So what's your, what's your current, like, view about aliens or UFOs in general? I believe they're real because of that event. Because I do, I do remember, no, I do remember seeing, you know, back in the back, back when I was younger. I mean, the images are gone completely now, but I do remember there was a time when I was younger. So on the NIH website, National Institutes of Health, they have this list of mass hysteria event, documented episodes of mass hysteria in African schools, and it touches on a bunch of different countries. And then it does discuss the ones in Bobway. But it says in 1994, 62 schoolchildren all reported seeing an alien craft land and extraterrestrial creatures emerge. Virtually every single one of the 62 children iterated the exact same story with the same details and none of them had gone against his or her story. Many dismissed the 1994 incident

as mass hysteria affecting the children. But when the children were found to not have much prior knowledge to UFOs or popular UFO perceptions, many other people believe that what the children witnessed could have been real. The children were asked to draw what they have encountered the day prior and so it's that's that's the entire right of basically saying like this sounds fucking crazy but it kind of checks out that point that I made that

we we didn't give a fuck about the fact that it was kids actually makes me believe it more and that goes to your point UFO culture is so much bigger here it's people here are obsessed with it I've never told this story to like Zimbabwe's so yeah so I guess not as much as I've been

dude everyone I meet here I'm telling this fucking I mean, because it's a crazy story. It really is. So, all right. So according to the NIH website here, it's like, okay, it kind of checks out. But it's kind of wild that we haven't. I feel like maybe we're just only focused on the alien encounters that we get here in America. But I feel like this is such a well-known case that I should have heard about it at some point.

But I guess not. You said there's a BBC documentary. I believe the BBC has one, one of the lead. One of the lead guys was a guy from Harvard. One of the lead researchers that was there, I believe, was a guy from Harvard. Because that's actually intriguing the point that he made. The fact that y'all didn't have like prior, any kind of prior knowledge about what we perceive aliens to look like or to. Yeah, because that's movies like E.T. right?

That shit, that shit gets us, that shit gets to Zimbabwe on DVD five years later. You think that aliens, so we don't know nothing about it. You think aliens see, see, like, popular culture and they see how they're presented, like, E.T, things like that. And then they change their appearance to look more like the things that we've already seen so that we'll be like a little bit more comfortable seeing them for the first time. Camellian. Yeah. Camelian. There you go.

I think it's a possibility. Camelian in animal form. Big T. What do you got for him? I just, you kind of answered this with Billy's question. I'm like, you don't really remember it anymore. But I'd never heard you tell the full story. I didn't know, my understanding was that y'all saw some sort of.

of craft and like that was i didn't know that you saw people get out they walked there they came out so like now you don't remember that so yeah what avery's listening to the joe rogan show somebody was not me so you just don't like remember that very much now yeah vivid no it happened when i was when i was young i i guess that's all the actual the actual imagery no that was the part of the story that because i never heard you say that they were they actually got out oh yeah no they got out and all that and the thing is if i had as i said if i had been older and i now what I know I would have appreciated it and probably absorbed.

Do you know like how long the whole thing lasted? It was less than I don't even know time when I probably It wasn't that long because our breaks are like 15 minutes So it wasn't long at all Did they get back into the craft? Yeah and they left Back into the craft and they left

That's nuts Now is it so I believe 100% something happened But like my brain's trying to like figure out a rational explanation Which is very hard could did a helicopter land and then guys dressed as aliens get out no I know that's and then depart within 10 minutes Could it be possible? The thing is I mean it's the thing is it's too late for the cold war like involved like there was a lot of cold war stuff happening in Africa in that region of the world like earlier not Africa is also huge yeah yeah yeah so we So, maps have lied to us growing up.

I don't know if you guys have looked at a map recently. I spent about 15 minutes a day looking at maps because I'm a weirdo. But maps are fucking liars. Africa is gigantic compared to how it's shown on the Mercator, like the standard projection of maps, where it makes Greenland look like it's fucking dominating the world. Greenland, I don't know who Greenland's publicists are, but they've done a great job in making us all overvalue it. Greenland and Antarctica since they're so close to the polls. They look fucking huge, but in reality, Africa is like, Africa is so underrated on maps.

It's about time we give it some shine, I think. Fucking huge. That's right, PFT. Tell them again. Shout out Africa. Africa is intentional. Oh, shit. There we go.

There we go, Aaron. I mean, expand on that. They really talk about that. Like, they talk about that all the time about how Africa is portrayed. I mean, even if you talk about how it's marketed, right? like they all of Africa is just like this primitive one place with no resources and like everything's barren like not fam like there's actually prospering society they're like with richness and fullness but like how it's market is everybody's poor and everybody it's just

it's you it's Eurocentric it's what it's and most maps are Eurocentric mm-hmm that's that's way you got to come and see it yourself well they're they're kind of Eurocentric they're also more than anything I think uh Also, well, yeah, Eurocentric is a word I was looking for. I was thinking about, like, North America. A lot of times people think, like, they try to emphasize North America on maps. I actually think the British really designed the most popular projection because it's like, that's where the prime meridian goes down, like, straight through London.

London was just like, hey, can we have the most important vertical line on the map, go through my backyard, please? And they just decided to do that one day. And they're like, okay, this is what maps look like now. London is going to be right at the center of all. But yeah, if you look up like an actual projection of a map, map of the world according to the real size of other continents. And there's no such thing as drawing like a perfect map

because you can't make a perfect two-dimensional thing out of the globe. But this is pretty close. And it's just like Africa is about the size of the United States and all of South America combined. Gigantic. So listen, I choose to believe Zah. I say it sounds cool And I'm in favor believing cool shit

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that one up i'm just going to check that but i don't think they're mutual exclusive stances right so like my mother had like to this day like we call it right now like she had it uh she says she saw a UFO she's like she's from farmland in some like uh small town in new mexico and and And she said, like, to this day, she's like, I swear I saw what it's. Like, I don't not believe my mother, right? Like, it's like, I don't think it's a musician who stands. Like, you saw what you definitely saw what you saw. Like, but it's, it's hard for me to, like, rationalize how aliens are just, like,

just creeping around and not, not, not, not hollying at anybody. You know what I'm saying? It's just in the back. They're like, they're like catch and release. Fisherman. Right. Land and jet. just touchdown kind of how we did to the moon right like we didn't really we didn't

really explore the moon that much we haven't been back in a long time we just kind of showed up and we were like hey give me some of those rocks all right peace and stuck a flag in it like on some like yo we own this shit too like what the this belongs to me yeah you think aliens what if aliens came here and they planted one tree way back in the day and that was their flag and then they leave and then the tree just grows and takes over the entire world. I mean, this is one of the only UFO sightings, one of the only ones

where they actually connect aliens with the crafts. That's true. Which is crazy. Yeah, so you're not, there's tons of sightings of the crafts and there's, but there's not that many sightings of people coming, of beings coming out of the craft. Where did

they get the commercial, where do they get the commercial image from then? So like for like the movies and There's like Roswell. I feel like there was one. I think Roswell started that. Because I grew up in New Mexico, right? So Roswell was really big in that.

But they actually have, that's been debunk since since then. I forget the actual story. I was watching that Bob Lazar shit. And the reason why I low-key believed that cat, like there's parts of his story that check out a part of his story. I'm a little skeptical one. But like when he starts talking about like alien technology and he starts talking about like the science behind it.

He starts to talk about how like, if you look at like space time and how space time like warps, depending on the mass, they say that this technology, he was saying that this technology found a way to bend space. And so like the craft has something like that binned space

and it kind of falls forward and it can fall in any direction. And this is that imagery to me is fucking fascinating and that he connected to the technology that he says we already have from aliens. And so that's an interesting documentary, too, if you haven't seen it. There was also that War of the Worlds, which was read on the radio, when was that? What was the year that that?

Oh, that was like nine, that was during the Great Depression. Yeah. So it was, if you don't know War of the Worlds, it basically was an H.G. Wells novel, right? And so they read it on the air and they didn't tell people that it was a story and people listening at their homes thought that it was a radio announcer documenting the invasion of Earth by aliens. and they all freaked out. Which sounds, I mean, all-time classic prank. I fucking love it. It was Orse 1938 radio play about Martians invading New Jersey,

and they literally said on, they started by, we interrupt this broadcast to bring you a special bulletin. Martians have invaded New Jersey, and everyone in New Jersey went nuts. I love all. All the Italians just like going out into the street with their white t-shirts. I'm a punch of fucking alien. Holding like a loaf of semolina

Yeah Ready to go Get the go You said sick prank Jokingly That is a sick prank It's a great prank That's a fire prank

The aliens are here And the disrespecting Christopher Columbus I mean the thing is I want to say that like You have Think of like big time Tommy Coming out of his house

He's like Nobody's fucking with my mozzarella Buggin No But the thing is You want to say that Oh we created The idea of

flying saucers like someone drew that up but like there's like flying saucers in renaissance paintings in like Egyptian like they have like flying saucers and Renaissance paintings that are painted and they look like flying saucers in the sky Billy right now before a very eyes is turned into the alien is cooking into the aliens man meme ancient aliens yeah hell yeah bill we should have that guy on the show it's hard not to think like that after you have someone right in front of you just said like I saw aliens yeah kind of a saucer it's like where do you get

that commercial image from that you're selling in movies that you know you get it from something someone must have seen it somewhere I always like seeing the the images that directors of like old school movies like you go watch a movie in the 50s or 60s and they're

kind of diagraming what they think the future is going to look like or what aliens look like they all kind of have the same idea I don't know when they got together and decided that's like okay you're going to wear it they do Everyone's dressed in platinum all the time. And you shave your heads.

No one has hair anymore. Which I actually kind of, that might make sense from the evolution standpoint, right? Are we all losing her hair? True. Is that a fact? Is that like, because we have less hair than the apes do. So one day will we just all be smooth? I'm developing a bold spot.

That's not good. I think, I think socially it behooves us to have. have hair. Like, it's part of our culture. So it's like, it helps with confidence. It helps with like a lot of different things. So like, I don't see that why it isn't, it is, it is a benefit us to lose hair. Huh. Evolutionarily. That's probably true at this point. It doesn't. Because you procreate better probably with more hair, right? I've, I've heard that it like, it cushions. If you're into, I'm at like, you have a better chance of catching a mate. If you have hair, if you have a full beard.

A hair and ja. Women are more attracted to the guys with hair. No offense to the cats is bald and it happens to everybody. Thank you. You're more attractive to women like with a full head of hair. And we, I mean, we prefer women with more hair as well. Well, that's a personal decision. I just looked at it.

Baldness may have evolved in males through sexual selection as an indicator of aging and social maturity when males become less aggressive and more nurturing. See what I'm saying? It used to be like a good thing. Yeah. It's like how back if you were fat, it just meant that you had money you were able to eat more.

Fat bald dudes like ruled the world. Still as an African. Still as an African. You fat, you got money. Oh, geez. All right. Well, there was another, like, recent example of aliens where you saw, there was like a connection with the saucer and people. I'm trying to remember what it was.

But I'm spacing out on it. But it's a good point that you hear about saucers a lot. And then you see pictures of the aliens sometimes, like actually seeing them walking out. Were they fast? Do you? Oh, no. I mean, did they talk about how fast they were? From what I recall, it wasn't, they didn't go way too, too far or anything.

They were literally just in that tiny little area. And boom, came out for a little bit. Maybe they were lost. There's so many implications. In and out. There's some of the implications, like, right? Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't their house, so they definitely were lost. Yeah. Get that live. No, I mean, there's just so many implications, right? So, like, if they leave their spacecraft, right, that means they can breathe oxygen, right? So wherever they're from, it's an oxygen-based species.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, there's so many different implications. Like I don't know man like did they have clothes on do you remember like they didn't die Ah that much I don't know they could that was just bright bright light what about right light It's that actually that actually makes that's like yes they is they fucking is they oxygen can we go live that they that's that's what I'm saying like our shit about to die I mean maybe them niggins need to figure it out right I said this on me yeah I said this on another episode I don't think and this is I mean if you're listening in last week this is why I asked the question to Harvey I don't think aliens, the saucers we see, the space people, the people that Zami have saw. I don't think they're from another planet.

I think they're from this planet. Because think about it, like statistically, if you like, you know, let's say you're on a desert island in the middle of the ocean. And, you know, you live there with your friends and you know that humans exist on that. or I've been trying to think of the best way to frame this, but let's say you have rats in your house. And the rats are shitting on the floor. And then you've only seen the rats like crawling around in the basement. But all of a sudden you start to hear like noises coming from the roof.

Yeah. Like do you think those noises coming from the roof are from rats who traveled across the sea and came to your house? Or are they just more rats like the ones in the basement just in different places? On the roof. It could be squirrels. Squirrels, yeah. But you don't even know squirrels exist. So it's like more statistically possible that what we're seeing is from this earth because

there's life on this earth. So statistically it's more likely that there's life that we don't know about than like life from somewhere far away coming to our planet. I feel like we know. Bob Lazar kind of alluded to that. And he claimed the biggest claim is that element 115 is like the main driver for these crafts being able to do like these crazy things. Not necessarily that the crafts are from other places.

It's more of just this crazy element that can potentially be weaponized, that they're using inside these crafts to make them do this, like, crazy phenomena that we're not used to seeing. Yeah. What's element in 115? It's supposed to manipulate gravity, and that's how it, like, moves. Oh, sick. Yeah. He said that he's seen it before and that it's something that, like, could be weaponized.

It's called a nun, a non-pentium. Yeah. yes and and as of right now it's theoretical correct because no one's actually ever seen it or created a lab the thing is that's not i mean that's like back when we were creating nuclear bombs there's elements that we knew could exist but we didn't know how to synthesize them like yeah like different types of uranium or whatever like those those did any of you guys have to memorize the periodic table i was supposed to i never got around to it yeah that that was the stupidest shit.

Why are they making high schoolers take chemistry class? Like, really? Is there, if you want to become a chemist or have something to do with science, you'll probably eventually find yourself in a chemistry class on your own.

Like, what am I? What the fuck? There's a significant part of my brain that knows shit about like, you know, neon gases and stuff. It's like,

why did I ever? I get mad at the shit that I learned that I didn't need to learn sometimes. Sorry. Yeah, no, we had a memory the first 21 they should like teach people like how to do taxes like actual applicable stuff yeah or get away with not paying taxes yeah either way maybe john mackafee'd still be a lot

this day he's a failure it's a u.s education system he's john mackafee so back to your rat shit um your rats and squirrel it was a it was a bad metaphor yeah it's pretty bad but i understand what you're saying so so if If the beings are on this earth, right, they would have to be ocean dwellers. Yeah. Because we have pretty much, I don't want to say we've discovered all life, but if there was a prosperous species that we're sharing this habitat with, there's no way we wouldn't have ran into them by now. Unless they have like cloaking devices, now we're opening a whole other bargain. But like in your analogy, are the ocean dwellers or land dwellers?

I think that they're definitely living places So I was like thinking about this because I'm in waiting for this episode Like think about all the major extinction events on earth And think about the animals that survived them So like cockroaches But all crocodiles Turtles aquatic reptiles aquatic reptiles like everything that survived from the dinosaur peers It was all aquatic or they were little rats that knew how to burrow

And they turned into mammals and us one day but like think about all the extinction events that happened since humans evolved and like you know there was like a younger dryest event that like reduced the population of humans down to like 17,000 in the whole world and like hypothetically there could have been a population of people who figured out how to avoid that and adapted and are probably maybe more highly evolved than us to bowl people yeah underground who know how to manipulate space time yeah uh Zah, I got a question for you about the area that you grew up in. Is there any, like any natural resource that's abundant there that might be attractive to an outside presence? No, Harare city-wise, not no. I think the closest is probably diamonds in the eastern. Actually, yeah, diamonds in the eastern highlands. They're diamonds.

They just discovered. They discovered diamonds from that, from the school, Rua, to the Chiadzwa, diamonds. I'll say probably like 100, 200 kilometers away. Okay, so that's what, like, 100 miles. 100, 115 miles. I think there's like 1.5. Wait, no, it'd be less. If it's kilometers to it.

So you said it's about 100 kilometers? So it'll be like 80. So yeah, like 80 miles away. Okay. Yeah, something like that. Interesting. What if aliens just like wanted diamonds? Why would?

I mean, I want a diamond too. Yeah, I did too. The aliens were just trying to get a fit off. Maybe. try to get uh that would that would i would lose all faith in fucking the universe that was the case if they came here just to get some jewelry just find out the rest of the universe is consumers yeah at that point it's like all right there's no hope what's yeah i'm trying to get out of the aliens just come here to flex on us yeah they kept they hopped out of their spaceship to flex on you

They're just out there flash and bling. It was just bright lights, yeah, diamonds. They're just reflecting. They're just flexing. Oh, these little kids just flexing the light off onto the blinded you. Yeah, yeah. Let's fuck with these humans who don't get this type of bling. The only ever UFO sighting was at Icebox.

They were just picking up their chains. Just step out, show them, get back inside, all right. Later assholes. There was this Instagram alien that used to make me, like, kiss my pants laughing. What was his name? Oh, I know what you're talking about. Oh, man. It's so funny.

And it used to, like, they used to, like, sink him with rap songs. Yeah. He was in, like, the anecdote video with Travis Scott. Yeah. It actually makes sense. Like, think about it from an evolutionary standpoint, right? Like, if, if we keep going the direction that we're going in our society, which is, like, we are consumers. And we live to just like, you know, it's becoming more and more narcissistic.

Eventually, if we do ever gain the power to space travel, we're probably just going to want to show up, get a fit off, take a picture, put it uploated to your social media profile, be like, they're like travel influencers, essentially. They just get out and they've got all the sickest shit on, take a page, show off real quick, and then leave. And then that makes them evolutionary speaking more likely to procreate. because they're the like best business people from their society we're just going to get so dumb that that's what we use intergalactic travel for off to jupita piece yeah shout out post picks on the gram yeah exactly just just fucking landed on earth band crazy they don't have any diamonds little little mayo the aliens called little mayo he has hilarious videos oh that is a real one yeah he's i think we've solved we've solved the alien issue they just come here and flex on us

can't get the diamonds you'll never get this so Zah I believe you I just want to let you know I believe you thank you I believe that it happened yeah I believe you I do not believe that it happened I'm just I'm just here to tell the story I know yeah something definitely did that

was weird what was the reaction from the teachers so what's the one the one that one of them got to see it that's well that's who confirmed it. I mean, if kids are coming up to you, you don't really think when one of them got to see it. They were like, I think one or I don't know how many, one or two or whoever ran out got to see it. Have they been interviewed? Yeah, in the documentary. So in that documentary, there's personal accounts. There's, there's school. So they interview everyone. They, they interview,

I believe, the headmaster. They interview him. They interview, uh, they interview a couple of the teachers. They interview like a lot of the kids, a lot of the older kids. I'm sorry, I'm going to watch that shit. So BBC, if you Google it, it's easily Googledable. I haven't seen the phenomenon yet on Netflix, but I hear that that also is pretty good on that. And that's about that as well. Yeah, I can't speak personally to that one.

But the BBC one that I saw on YouTube, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if it's BPA. Here I'm saying BBC, but there's one on YouTube, I believe. It's one of the BBC or something that did it. All right. And Netflix, send some of that money to the aerial school. Don't be free on these, bitches. That'll be nice.

And some T-shirts. I'm writing an open letter with my mouth to Netflix. I'm open lettering you. And if you don't send it, I'm going to watch, I'm going to watch 5% less Netflix next month. So that'll put a dent in your pocket. I just found, I was looking for the documentaries I mentioned and there's a clip of Joe Rogan talking about it. And the top comment on YouTube says, imagine you miss school that day and come back and hear that a whole ass alien spaceship landed at recess. I'll tell you

this for free them motherfuckers down there would not have given the shit it's these guys these Americans that are

they would be like oh good without superstitious because you're forgetting our culture is very superstitious and superstition is used it's weaponized

pretty much so anything anything that's fucking extra weird less of that none of that geez yeah I can see

how alien invasion would throw a big wrench into that there you go so what's the what's the what's the religious influence down there

Majority Christian, I believe it's about, it's about 90. So the former ones, about Christian is about 90% I believe. Gotcha. Christianity, the small, small Muslim, and then the other ones are really, really small. Gosh. All right, well, let Zah know what you think. Support Zah in his quest to. This should be something that's taught, maybe not in schools,

but there should be more TV shows about this. When I get like we were, when I say if we were not told about it, this growing up all I'm really saying is like this should have been on my television more often so I'm pissed off at I'm pissed off at my people after being here a trend uh transferring to this to this society I'm pissed off of my people this if we had built like a museum I mean we could have that that could have powered the whole economy of rule with how with how interested cats I mean would you would you fly down to Zimbabwe to go see an alien site I got to get to Africa I would yeah if they had like somebody who was really into marketing

that knew what they were doing that had that mindset of like I'm going to just turn this event into a cash cow it would be a prosperous city yeah for sure but didn't work out that way all right well thank you Zah thank you thank you folks at the midget Zimbo everywhere and make sure to listen to back again yes sir with troops on YouTube is is he back again we're back again is it coming home he's coming it's not coming home unfortunately it's not but is he coming home he is coming home Okay. Has Dana been on back again? Uh, no. But he probably should. So he's not back again. So he's not back again.

Interesting.