Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Antarctica

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, Billy takes the reins and talks about a topic near and dear to his heart. You'll hear everything from the wildlife that resides in Antarctica to survival tactics for the people that do live their now (and yes of course, the conspiracies surrounding it as well). Also, hear updates on the Maxwell Trial and what the entire crew thinks of the situation. All of this and more on the show. Macrodosing is presented by DatChat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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whatever, whoever, you can tag me, you can talk shit. I'm going to pop right back at you. Go to Datchat, download it for iPhone, Android, and the app stores right now, or go to datchat.com slash bar store to get more info and download that chat. Hi, welcome to macrodosing. I'm here, Billy. PFT is out on a little bit of vacation. We're here with Big Tea in the studio, Mad Dog and Avery. You're joining us, as always.

You blew it. You blew it. You blew it. You had a chance to, you had a chance. You had a chance to start where is PFT. Like, he's just been going to be gone missing and we don't really know where he is. But you blew it. You said no vacation. You blew it, man. You know, with all the fake news and false conspiracy narrative out there, if we were to start another one, that would be a little disingenuous. as such an upstanding podcast ourselves joined remotely by arian and coli as always welcome to macrodosing billy tell us your thoughts on the direction of the show i'm just saying i would like to get more

facts in the show that's all i'm saying i wasn't so so pft is out pft is out and we were discussing a group what what the um topic was going to be today billy proposed antarctica we all have to Pazardly agreed. And we're going to let Billy take the reins of this one because he wants more facts in the show. He wants PFT dead. And so we're going to, we're going to, this is your baby today, Billy. You know what I'm saying?

But first, before we hop into that, this is to do a field check, like my man, PFT, possibly RIP, we don't know where he is. You know, just like a little check-in seeing how everybody's doing. Is everybody good today? Current events. What's going on in the world of y'all? I just went to my first pup punk concert over the weekend, and it was so awesome. Me and Avery went to PFT's concert at Toad's, and it was like one of the most fun nights I've had, like, since I graduated college.

It was awesome. What is it? It's called PUP punk, and it's PFT and a couple guys in our office. They have like a band together, and they perform live. And so me and Avery went to the show this weekend, and it was so awesome. and PFT is so good. And there were macrodotians there. It was awesome.

Well, that's fire, man. Okay. Yeah. So that was my weekend update. Sounds amazing, man. Yeah, I think they have more live shows than they have, like, songs recorded. Like, I want. Do they have, like, are they on, like, Spotify and shit?

No. They cover, well, yeah, they cover songs, like famous songs. They're what, three original songs or four? I think they're at four now. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite is my girlfriend is really hot. they're really good they sell out places all the time they're really really good yeah they do

they do like mainly covers of um mr bright side um what else do they do stacey's mom like all of those classic 90s a lot of 90s early 2000s like pop rock songs i see i see i see pierc always you know he plays guitar and and you know he does this stuff on on the gram on the internet but he surprised me during the live show when he was playing um whatever he played Rocky Top. Yeah. And then what was the Beatles song? Blackbird.

That was me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, he's surprised me because there's a lot of chord changes in there, you know, and it's not easy to do unless you know what you know. He knows what he's doing that. That's a surprise, man. That's pretty dope. Big T, what you was on, man, this weekend.

Saturday, watch football all day. And then Sunday, I did nothing. Watch football all day. Yeah. Well, then, so now that college football's over, I kind of had to Sunday. I went and did Christmas shit with my girlfriend. I kind of had to, I owed her that Sunday. What is, when it's Christmas shit in the ice of me.

We went to the winter village at Bryant Park. We went to the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center. All that New York tourist bullshit. You hate it every second of it? No, it's fine. I just hate crowds. Like, I love Christmas. Like, Christmas is my, I enjoy doing all that stuff.

It's just the crowds are out of control. And on a Sunday night, it was, everybody and their mother was there. So it's a little early still. Yeah, still December 6 for Rockefeller tree crowds. That's the whole, it was the whole city in New York was there. I went, I went, I tried to go to the lighting on Wednesday, on the first. I think that's what it would be like being in a corral of cows.

That was the worst thing ever. I didn't even get to see the tree. Like they didn't even let me see the tree. Like a feed lot? It was so bad. All of, from 40, six. to 54th around-ish were all corralled but the cars was they didn't cut the streets off so there were so cars going everywhere I didn't even lay eyes on the tree they just basically were saying

you know you got here too late people out here like 3 p.m. to see the tree so they're yeah fuck off so I didn't even get to I went all the way up there I didn't even get to see the trees and I have to go back yeah one time so when they do the ball drop down time square yeah that sounds like hell on earth yeah so I went there once like in middle school just me and my buddies were messing around and the whole thing is they put you in these little corral like corrals basically just fenced in squares the middle of the street the only way you're getting all the way down to where the ball drops if you camp out like two or three days before or if it's last year and it's de Blasio and it's just him and his wife get to be there by themselves no because they shut

it everyone else has to be inside they they actually it was actually interesting to go and just see how they did the crowd control in anti-terrorism stuff but did do you remember that Did you see that? I saw. Yeah. It's just like him and his wife in the middle of Times Square. That's shit.

Dictators do. Sparse move. Sparse shit, though. Yeah. I kind of respect it. It's like Kim Jong-un. This nigga was mad at people biting his style, so he'd been. Yeah.

Can't dress like him. No more trench coats like his, the leather jacket. Like, I don't hate it. I mean, it's hell of dictatorial. That's so sick, though. Imagine that. But if he's going to do that shit, he totally deserves when he gets harassed in Central Park, when he's walking around without a mask with his wife.

And everyone's going to yell at him. Rules for thee, not me. And then they started throwing trash. Hate to see that. I don't condone that. We don't condone throwing trash in football games or a bill to Wazio. They were throwing it onto his property. They canceled trash pickup.

I think it was at sometime during the pandemic. So everyone just started throwing trash in Gracie Mansion. Hate to see it. Jesus Christ. It was like, oh, who else did that? Was it Chris Christie that, like, had a private beach and everybody was supposed to be in lockdown or whatever? But the thing is, honestly, unfortunately, Chris Christie,

like doing that stuff in New Jersey, kind of, he got a little too much credit. Because it was New Jersey, everyone thought it was kind of, like, mobbed up type stuff. Like, he was just, like, making mafia boss moves. So it was, like, a little more, like, acceptable because everyone thought he was, like, Tony Soprano,

shutting down the bridges. Is it because he's Italian? I don't even think he's Italian. He's not Italian? I don't think Chris Christie's Italian. Christy's a... It's just fat. Wait.

Jesus Christ. Whoa, the anti-Italians. We were all thinking it. That was spicy. That was spicy, man. Oh, God, God. Well, I just love that the parallel in her mind was like, oh, like he's not Italian. He's just fat.

It's like a perfect. I'm not perfect. I'm just Italian. Chris Christie, ethnicity. I mean white Italian He's Sicilian He's Sicilian

Huh That could And then his father is German Scottish and he would tell you That's not Italian He would tell you it's very different Yeah No that's like

That's like de Blasio Pretending he's Italian When he's Wilhelm Wilhelm Do you know his real name's William Wilhelm? What? The third yeah Your real name

No That sounds like it's That does kind of sound like your name No No Billy's right It's not Bill. De Blasio's real name is...

Warren Wilhelm. He shouldn't be allowed to call yourself Bill de Blasio. Yeah, and he was born in Boston. Remember when that guy thought he could be president? What a clown. There's a lot of people who think they can and they sure can't. I think anybody can be president at this point. If you troll enough, you're good.

I think you can be present. He like trolls himself, though. Like he's such a clown. He doesn't even troll other people. He just like inadvertently trolls himself. he's six five yeah he's a big guy plazio six five yeah oh that's how you win an election right there no but like speaking of italian chris is chris quomo also got fired dunzo yeah like that that was a hate to see it we'll see you later chris what did what do he do

do you basically andrew quomo was going to try to run for president i think and then he just got hit with a bunch of cases I thought he was like snooping around and like going backlogging information Chris yeah he was he was trying to help Chris was trying to help Chris was right and using his platform at CNN right yeah how was he trying to help

what did he do um advising Andrew as an unpaid staffer he had more of a he just had more of a hand in the sexual uh relations that uh governor Cuomo had then people previously thought CNN said in a statement quote Chris Cuomo was suspended earlier this week

pending further evaluation of new information that came to light about his involvement with his brother's defense we retained a respected law firm to conduct the review and have terminated him effective immediately while in the process of that review additional information has come to light despite the termination we will investigate as appropriate

so he was helping his brother out with sexual assault allegations correct but it was It was somehow he, it somehow had something to do with his job at CNN. It was against journalistic integrity type stuff. Oh, are they talking about like he, he was showing bias towards his brother not reporting it, stuff like that? Yeah.

I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, how could you go against your brother? I mean, even if he's a piece of shit, it's tough, you know what I mean? If that were truly, I don't think that's why he got fired. I know that's what. Yeah, like it doesn't sound like it, but. But that was it truly.

the conflict of interest, like, that's on CNN for not pulling him off any of the story. It's obviously a conflict of interest. You just pull them off. But I saw something that was reported, I guess alleged, not reported, that he himself was about to be under investigation at CNN for not assault. What's the word I'm looking for? Harassment. Sexual misconduct.

Misconduct. Yeah. I just keep seeing, like, the verbiage of truth. just keep seeing it. Seen him fired anchor Chris Cuomo less than a week after a new information emerged about how he assisted his brother. The head of CNN. So Cuomo, Chris is coming out and saying that the head of CNN knew that he was helping

out his brother and everything. And this is just like now they're deciding to act on it. But anyway, one thing that I know that many of our listeners have been requesting that we do an Epstein episode, we're currently, you know, watching the Jolaine Maxwell trial intently. if you are looking for a great source of information on that, go to a tracker trial on Twitter. It's a Maxwell trial tracker Twitter account. And it has like some of this stuff,

it seems to be all verified and post a lot of the stuff that's going on in the trial. Okay. I'm just trust me, Avery can back. Like I said, it seems to be. Well, how does Avery know? Why? Why?

How is Avery in the court? I follow it too. I follow it too. And it's somebody who, whoever's behind it. I'm not saying it's not like they're not in the court rule. Or whatever. It seems like somebody who's definitely a little bias.

Yeah. They're not about like journalistic integrity. They want the people want the truth, that type of shit. Like I feel you. But let's take it for what it is. It's an anonymous account that seems to be involved in the case somehow. Yeah. But anyway, it's very interesting.

if some of this stuff is true and like the fact that it isn't widespread more widespread reported on sorry it isn't widely spread widely reported yes exactly I hear when I hear people say that like what are people do you think people aren't talking about like I feel like it's pretty reported on people you think it should be like the number one story like I don't it's tough because the the trial is not public right so it's all it's literally it would just be speculation a lot of like the written house case right there's media in a courtroom so it's easier to report on the daily goings on so I guess I don't like yeah I heard that too if you were nobody was talking about it but it's like what can you say other than it's going on well

yeah the fact that like for example Alex Alec Baldwin's been named in the case and Alec Baldwin's big you know story has been reported on widely and that sort of isn't being talked about at all is a little fishy people are how is it again it's not verifiable so how could it be reported on well people are basically saying is people like the whoever runs the tracker trial people like that are saying that the world elite are people who are running these CNN's foxes all of those news outlets and they are trying to silence the Maxwell trial because they are the people who are in the black book and are involved in it so CNN And then in Fox and, you know, NBC aren't reporting on it on like their daily news cycle

because there are people within those like elite organizations at the top, someone like a Murdoch or someone like that who have stocked. Murdoch is not invited to shit. Well, but like people. People as elite and rich as Murdoch are the ones are the ones silencing the news networks. because they don't want to be outed. In my mind, it's like that's why Epstein was killed. So why would they keep her around if that was why he was killed?

That's where their conspiracy like falls apart at the seams in my eyes. Like it can't be both. It can't be they killed one dude and they're letting this other chick go to trial. Like that's not how the world elites work. So you're saying unless she gets off to even if she gets off, like unless she's killed walking out of the courtroom, I don't, I don't see why she'd still be around. at this point like I don't get why he was killed immediately in jail but they're letting her go through all this unless they think because she's a woman and a foreigner I she's not from this country right she's British no she's because she's a foreigner and a woman people just won't believe her like I feel

all this is already extremely believable so that part's done and B I just can't see a world where they kill the main guy but they like those would be like letting Ava Braun run Germany after the fact like oh she's she's probably cool like no that's not how this works people are saying too that uh there are news outlets i forget i think it might be msnbc one of a you know top news outlet is trying to frame her as possibly a victim as well yeah Bloomberg Bloomberg that's what it was yeah was Bloomberg put out a article that said is jeline Maxwell really a victim herself so i think that's what they're trying to do and again we don't know what's being said in the court obviously but I think there's a portion of people again

Bloomberg new Epstein and so who knows what is going on behind closed doors but there could like Epstein knew everybody right everybody but I think more people had different like deeper relationships with him compared to others so I think there's a lot of people saying some news outlets are trying to protect Delane by saying things like oh is she a victim herself so who knows Had anyone heard of this guy before all this shit went down? Who? Who, Epstein? 2004, there was...

I certainly had never heard of him before. But it seems like he knew every famous person to ever live. I think that's a thing, though. Like, he was just in the mud with... What did he do? How did he have the money did he did? That's where it gets weird. It gets really freaking weird.

There's like... He's like a professor or some shit? So he was a high school teacher. Yeah. a brief moment. In his college records are sketchy. We don't know if he actually had a college degree, but he ended up from being a high school teacher in a high school in the Upper East Side in New York City, ended up working for one of his students' parents who was a very... The Wexner's, right? I'm not exactly sure, but very well-connected banker. And then he started making

connections with people like the CEO of Victoria's Secret. That's Wexner. That's Wexner. For example, that guy actually owned his giant townhouse on the Upper East Side. So, like, it's weird. He was a financier is basically the long story short of it. He would just manage people's finances. And then the billionaires would pay him millions to do that. For example, he brokered the sale of a private equity group to a larger firm and ended up with, like, $10 million. Just little deals like that, which I know $10 million is huge.

but in that world when it's a hundred million dollar deal like that's tiny compared to it's very interesting how this all sort of shakes out because my guy my guy had his own island didn't yeah like high school teachers ain't getting paid like that i was in a real professional from high school teacher to the banking industry and from there went to financing and if he it says he started in 76 so if he hit in new york city at the right time he was was running everyone's money. Like, he controlled the money. So if he controlled, if my,

the best way for me in any conspiracy theory is follow the money. And if you follow the money in every scenario and he's the guy at the end, he's the leprechaun with a pot of gold. Like, yeah, I can see him getting involved in a lot of different avenues.

That's, it's crazy, man. I'm, I'm definitely, I'm excited, dude. Is that, is that bad? But, uh, I'm excited to see how the shit unfolds because there's so much, Shit left in a dark, right? No, you should be excited because there's a bunch of pieces of shit in Hollywood that should get exposed for this.

Also, what is she charged with? Well, it just came out that she may have given oral sex to George Clooney at a private event. She's not getting charged criminally. That's not what I asked. Super illegal. I just wanted to get that in there. That's why you do you follow trial track. It has to be one of the more legal things brought up in the case.

why would that even get brought up I don't know but it's just crazy I think the craziest thing that is technically illegal in some states one of the crazy things I saw yeah it's on the book I think it's illegal in Tennessee

that's bullshit I should be locked up well shit I should be locked up they released a 58 page manual that Epstein and Maxwell gave to their house servants yeah that was crazy that was weird basically like

outlined what they have to say to guess as they come in what they have to to wear it was beyond crazy so i don't know this is all just i can't wait like aryan said i can't wait for more to come out about this because all these people should go down no matter who's on the list uh big t to answer your question she's getting charged basically with being an accomplice so she has four accusers that are charging her and it's enticement of a minor to travel transportation of a minor with intent to engage in illegal sex acts sex trafficking and conspiracy which are related

to the other accounts yeah yeah part part of why it's not as fun to joke about this is at like it it's kind of gotten buried that this is all a child sex trafficking charge like even with epstein like everyone wants to look at the elites and stuff like that and the conspiracies are for sure fun but at the end of the day if children were trafficked and illegal sex acts like that's as bad as it gets and these people suck absolutely by the way uh 18 states have laws banning oral sex, but they're unenforceable after a 2003 Supreme Court ruling. Yeah.

So it sounds like until 2003, though. Yeah, in 2003. But they found out it was unenforceable because of a... Yeah, I mean, they weren't enforcing them before that, but... Yeah. Yes. Shout out to Saddamie law. I think we should replace, since college football is old,

we should place the Tennessee Minute with the Epstein Minute. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were going to say, find one weird law from every state. We can do that anyway. Our Epstein episode is going to be no less than five hours. Yeah, I think. It's got to be broken down, yeah, because it's going to be interesting. I think we should do one on Epstein and one on Maxwell.

Well, yes. Like one on the Maxwell trial. Also, we should do something on Maxwell's father. Yeah. Who got killed on a yacht. So Jeline Maxwell's father was a huge media tycoon, was apparently, you know, fell off his yacht in the middle of some. somewhere and died like in very weird circumstances in the middle of somewhere in back but he got his like his cause of death was a heart attack and then it led to drowning but some people don't think that's

actually what happened it's weird no our Epstein episode is going to be quite intense that one that one we might genuinely stay on topic for yeah well okay I'm not go crazy there probably not probably not but that one's hard that one's just so interesting it's hard to it's everything thing is connected in one of those cases. And then like Bill Barr was recorded letting Epstein off saying that he was in intelligence back in 2004. Oh really? Yeah.

That was like the weirdest thing in the case. Like I found a 2004 article that said Bill Barr was just like now let me confirm this. We're doing due diligence. That's good. Good job due diligence. Even though you did already say it. saying that he

like they couldn't prosecute him back in 2004 because they were told by federal like he was in intelligence. That's all they said. But crazy stuff. Probably we might have to do a fucking Inez Canter episode, or Ines Freedom, excuse me,

episode at this point. You want to talk CIA ops. I think he actually just loves America. I mean, the State Department did prevent him from getting deported to Turkey and, you know. Yeah, what kind of deal was. made to get that done. He's doing way too much, though.

He's doing way to be yelling at Jeremy Lynn. Yeah, like California about what's wrong with China. Like, I don't know. He was going to be way too much dip on his shit. That shit, that shit threw me, bro. He's just like, he's reaching. He's just doing a lot of reaching, man. I got, he's a lot of, like, conservative gassing him, though.

Like, you want, I mean, you want to talk fake news of Big T. Your, your boy is over at Fox put NBA star on his, on his China. He's an NBA star. He's an NBA star. Definitely not. Has he made an all-star team? No. Oh, he sinks.

He's one, he's the one percentile for finishing at the rim. 99% of the league is better than him at finishing at the rim. He's a, he's a, he's probably an average, maybe slightly below average center. Correct. And it's not like, I mean, I do. I probably do think I can get him one on one. But like, this is no disrespect to his, you know, skill set. It's just comparative to like actual.

NBA stars. He's not, it's just, the monster. It's not, it's not true. He's a, he's a 14 point a game guy for most of his career. And he did that while shooting, shot 59% in 2018. Percentages for centers should not be a thing. But

you guys are now defending Edna's Cantor. And his freedom. As, as being an NBA star, I just want to let you know where you're doing that. Not a star. No. You said he was a star. I don't know backtrack.

He said, he's a star. Oh, well, because y'all said he's not a star. Sure, he's not. He's won't, he's a very recognizable name, 14 points a game for a lot of his friends. He won't stop talking. That's why he's recognized. He averaged a double double in New York. Yeah, that's my guy.

Fucking Pennywise is a recognizable name. Anything can be recognizable in America. All you got to do is go by. Jeremy Lynn's a recognizable name and he stinks. He was a good ball player for a little while, though. He was not for exactly 10 days. No, no, no, no. It was a great season with the Hawks.

He had a good season with the Hawks. People don't talk about that. People don't. actually and they shouldn't but uh you're trying to defend and his canter freedom freedom is it is it is anna's canter freedom now yes yeah so so yeah okay so yeah i'm gonna respect his you know i'm respect his name bro like when when when mohammed ali changed uh changed his name from cash is clay i you know he wanted people to respect it when when met a world peace when i respect people how they want to be caught and how they want to be addressed so i'm not going to disrespect him like

that but because it's not an all-star i want nothing but the best for in his freedom Yeah, me too. He's got to, he's got to pump the brakes on the, on the, on the, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, his, his argument is just illogical. His argument is, it's not that bad here, so stop complaining. And that's just, that's just, that's the dumbest shit you can say. I mean, we got to give him the benefit of the doubt on just, like, the psychological impact of having a regime openly trying to, like, that's got to be a little. I don't. I don't know. If your premise, but, but, bro, if your premise. is, if your premise is, he believes in freedom and he believes in humanity, right? He's

humanitarian. Then an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere. And so the degree in which the injustice is taking place, that's where he is asserting his authority. He's saying this isn't enough of an injustice comparatively to people getting gunned down on the street. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's not the arbiter of what is or is injustice, right? He He should try to recognize or empathize with people who feel like they're being. But I feel like he specifically, because he has such experience with authoritarian regimes, he sees this is closer to his heart than, you know, other injustices. He told the whole country to shut up and dribble.

Yeah, that's, I'm not, I'm not knocking his. I know. I actually haven't looked into a lot of, you know, what exactly. I know he's been basically like calling out Jeremy Lynn, like wearing shoes against LeBron. Yeah, like, which is, I'm not totally against criticism against LeBron and China, right? I'm, I'm not. Like, I don't disagree wholeheartedly, but there's a way to do it and not be divisive.

This is my problem with political pundits in general. It's like, you claim to want to have a better country, but yet you motherfucking everybody that disagrees with you rather than, rather than, like, having an open, honest dialogue. And you can, you can get a hold of him on a phone if you really wanted to, but calling them out publicly it's just it's just messy if you really want uh actual conversation go highlight him go talk to all I knows he had nine and 15 the other night four six shooting sounds like his girlfriend is uh a rockefeller like I don't know where yeah yeah like it's like hard to like take all of this information and then be like look who you're literally in bed with

all right what are you talking okay so remember we were just saying everything's connected well I just was on trial tracker a second go when we were talking about it and they connected like the rock fellers in epstein like served on some of the same boards together and we're actually very good friends so let's see which rock valley's dating and if it's this person's daughter we disavow i have a question for you guys how do you guys hold your phones do you hold your pinky under your under your phone yeah depends on the angle if i'm laying down i have my pinky under it i don't think i do if i'm So you guys need to stop because I actually, so Frankie Borelli here, who had elbow surgery, he had elbow surgery and his doctor said a majority of it is in relation to that to holding your pinky under your phone, putting the pressure on your pinky. Well, his was also regular, like he holds regular cameras a lot too.

Yes. Like it was more than just phone with Frankie. Like we all hold our phones like that. There's not like a mass outbreak of elbow surgery. True. I guess you do make a good point. But I also, I do, like, it did change my perception of, like, the pulling on your pinky can actually really affect your elbow. I, I would venture to, you know, I propose that it, I would rather risk elbow surgery than risk a crack screen.

So I'm going to go ahead and keep holding my pinky into that thing. I mean, you've had enough surgeries now to the point that, I mean, what's one more? It's another one. Well, I know, but that's what I'm saying. I got 14. I'm not, I'm cool. 15 unless it's unless it's like i take you know i take it back so wait and anesthesia is probably the best drug that you can have like right before you you you knock out anesthesia that

probably 30 to 45 seconds if you've asked shit as you fork if that's what it's like right before you die man yeah what the hell are you talking about you told us you got an elective surgery just because you wanted the you wanted the drugs you keep right right you talk a scarily amount about morphine. Just saying. Morphine is fucking amazing. I know exactly. I'm an advocate for safe drug use.

Like 100%. Like if you're, if you can do it responsibly, I think it's a good thing. There's a whole book written on this actually. There was a, there was a professor. I think where I don't know where he's from.

But he was talking about how, too, I'm talking about heroin, crack, all of that stuff. Oh, the Columbia professor? Yeah, yeah, there you go. Is if you, if you, if you moderate your drug usage, it can be healthy. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the overconsumption of it that, that actually,

um, uh, is, is the detrimental part to it, which is, is, is obvious, right? It's kind of self-evident, but, um, I'm not, I'm not again, that's why I'm, that's why the legalization of all drugs. I think if you regulate it, I think if you, if you educate people on it, you can have, because I know people, like, I know crack is like this taboo, you know what I'm saying, but I know people who have smoked crack like casually, but they didn't affect their lives. It didn't derail them. It can go that way for sure. But just like I know people who are social drinkers, right? Have a drink every now that it's okay, but I know people who are fucking alcoholics and

it ruin their life. And every drug, except for weed, I've never met a piehead who's like derailed their life. They just get really like, cool. Other than that, like every other drug, there's a spectrum, right? And I think the more you educate the public on it, the more people can have responsible drug use because I do think there is positive, um, there is positive, um, I, parts to having drug use, like self-awareness, self-care.

I just think it's a good thing rather than a bad one. We just had to regulate it. I mean, there's also positives in like, we're not clogging up the prisons by treating these people as prisoners. And instead, when it gets out of control, or if they can't handle it, they go into, like, therapy. Yeah, clinics. Instead of jail where it just devolves all, like the ripple.

effects on society are where I think it's most beneficial. Like the individuals being able to do whatever, definitely cool. It was like New York that just had the first safe injection site open up or two. Oh, really? Yeah. That's fire. And they'll provide you with doctors injecting it and clean needles and Narcan and everything. That's beautiful. This is, I'm in the right place. Well, wait, doctors will be doing the injections. Uh, or I don't, doctors, nurses. It's not going to be brain of what? So you bring your drugs to, them and they're like, oh, that's real? Yes.

It's so it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's, it's called. It's supposed to be. Definitely. It's Amsterdam, I know for sure. Are my taxes paying for this? Probably. Only yours. I'm about, I'm about to have a connipion. Time out, tell my, tell my, tell my, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you're against your taxes paying for safe and legal drug use. This is yes, this is libertary. Wow. Wow. right now it's already paying for those people you understand i'm not even anti like legalizing most drugs like i'd be fine with most of them but when you're taking tax dollars and paying for people to

go get injections of what heroin it's right yeah help me out yeah yes i will be i will go on the record as being inside the full theory big t is not like we're just going to pay for people to get high all day it's we're no longer it's going to end up being cheaper in the long run because right now your tax dollars are paying for mostly arresting and incarcerating these people, which is a far heavier bill to foot than just have making sure they're safe and not. Would you rather them jamming up your ERs because they're used pretty needle? Did you see they put this across the street from a daycare? Answer his question because that was a very valid point. Yeah. I would love to hear everybody. Um, I don't think that one problem

necessitates using taxpayer dollars to give people heroin. Big Tee. But they're actually, I don't think that's the solution. Actually, how I like to think of it, Big T, because there is that, you know, like, I don't want to pay for this. I don't think that's the solution. But Big T, you know what you are paying for? For them not to, this is actually a really fucked up way to justify it. But it's like, at least you're not walking to work and they're shooting up on the street right in front of you. Because that does happen around their office.

If that's the most base, like, that's the most baseline way to think about it. Yeah. And in the unhumanitarian way. Exactly. So, well, if I'm trying to convince Big Tea to like see some benefits. If you want to convince Big T, pull on his heart streams, right? Yeah. Big old heart of yours, Grinch.

I don't think it's humanitarian. You don't, you don't think Jesus Christ would want to help somebody that is addicted to a substance. Yes. Wean them off of it. I don't think the way to do that is giving them a place to go do it freely. Okay. What is what is a good solution of getting somebody? I don't know.

I'm not, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I'm telling the massive research that says it's that it's even, it's even considered um bad bad there's a better word for it's it's it's detrimental to a person who's who's addicted to a substance to just cut them off a cold turkey it can actually cause like really bad health problems so the best way to do it is to give people an outlet and wien off the dosages that's literally how all what the what the medical manager says like these sorry but these safe injection sites aren't like they're not like couches bean bag chairs like it's not like you're laying out having a, like they're not playing pink

Floyd. Oh, no, I looked at it. They put one across the street from a daycare in Harlem. That's where we shouldn't have this. But also then you don't have needles on the street. I don't know that there's like a lot of blocks in the city that aren't across from a school of some point. So I understand they do that to fearmonger. There's

there's gun stores, there's liquor stores. Like, you don't give me that argument. Come on. Right. It's a bad. It's supposed to. It's a much cheap. If you're a big point, which it was immediately, what is your tax dollars, this is a far cheaper way to use them that it's already being used at the end of like proven science still delivered aside from the fiscal uh advantages of this morally i don't see how you're opposed to this

because people do do drugs we will agree on that and if we agree that they do drugs we agree that they need some kind of guidance or aid in in in mitigating that drug usage would you not agree with that yeah i don't you will you i don't think you think that you don't think i i do think i do think they need guidance. Yes. Okay. Well, I thought you said you were for everyone just doing drugs in moderation. I am. But there are there are people who can curtail their alcohol usage and they understand their body and they understand how not to let it affect their daily lives. But there are people who cannot and they need help and they we have AA groups for that. We have stuff for that, you know what I'm saying? And so drug usage is is along that same line of that line of thought is if if you

can if you can smoke weed, you sit back and smoke weed and it doesn't affect your life. You sit back and hair and it doesn't affect your life because I know people that that have done. It's very anecdotal. But if that's the case, then you don't need help. But there are people who do need help. I don't see a problem with us helping people that need help. That's, I guess it's the biggest point of contention is I don't understand conservative thought is y'all are pro religion for the most part, right? And if you read Jesus's words, he would be the first person to help people. I think there are ways to try to help. people that are not this well big t you what okay so now i don't know what you're big t you what happens

let's take this to its logical conclusion though so so now we have a designated spot where drug users are congregating what is too oh let's let's this i don't i don't accept that premise why it's not it's not congregating yeah well it's a place we know they're go i think i think you're thinking of it as like a party right well no no no no no no just let me just i i understand your your your your contention with that verbiage, but a place we know that drug users are going. Yes. Uh-huh. Seven 11. What is any? No, no, no, yes. Yes. You're making my point. What is to prevent now like the drug dealers being like, oh, we now know exactly where the people who are doing drugs are going. We're just going to go there now. And there are, okay, there are authority figures there. Like, you can't just set up shot.

But I mean, you know, we know in the general vicinity of where we have, we have, we have data on this, right? This is, this is it. In, in a lot of the east, um, the west coast, States, right? Marijuana usage is legal, right? They have dispensaries. There isn't an amalgamation of drug dealers waiting outside to sell weed to people who can go inside and get weed. It doesn't make any sense logically for that drug dealer. Does that make sense? That's basic economics. Supply of demand. Have these, have these been done elsewhere? Yeah, they're here. It's all, it's the first in the U.S. It's the first. But what I will say to that is the idea of needle exchange is not new in this country. My father specifically ran needle exchange vans

in Boston when I was a teenager and the science behind the amount of people who are like you, I think there's also this negative connotation with addicts in general that like they fucking love being addicts. Like all they want to do is drugs. A lot of these people don't want to keep doing it. These needle, like you're going to look at this less as, oh, this is a sick place for drug users to go shoot up whenever they fucking want as it is public health. Like this is a public health issue. More of these people will end up getting clean and sober and on the fast track to a, what we perceive is a better life through places like this. I hope that's something I homelessness, right? Homelessness. This, this will directly affect homelessness. This

would directly affect veteran homelessness, which conservatives should be beaten off to, right? That's another, that's another, that's another whole other conversation. But veterans with PTSD often turn to drug use because one, they don't have the medical, uh, the aid that they need. So that's what they do. And it provides people that safe. I think people think people are just drug addicts that are just, they're just born fucking bank robbers and thefts.

And that's not what happens. We are good people who deal with hardships and don't know how to deal with it mentally. And they turn to and they turn to. So having a place for them, I just don't see, I just don't see like, I don't know. It's just mind-boggling to me how people don't want to help people. Like, what the fuck are we here for?

I hope that all the things you just said happen. I'm not convinced they are going to. But they have. Like that's the needle exchange thing isn't new. Needle exchange isn't new. And that's basically the premise behind these safe injection sites, just on a larger scale. And there's plenty of data to back that up.

Like, this isn't new. It's just people like yourself immediately jumped at, well, I'm not paying for that, which is like you're already paying more to incur, like every time I see how long or when someone serves like a five-year jail sentence. It's like putting them through Yale twice. Like at what point are we just like, well, maybe this isn't the best avenue? And then they also say, and then they'll also say, I'm not paying for student debt relief.

But it's like, that would directly stimulate the economy. If we have all these people with all this extra dough, they want to go spend it on shit in the economy. I don't, I don't know. We can get into a long-ass tangent about that, man. If anybody has anything else to add about that, Big T, you want to have the last word on? I hope this helps so many people. it's not even funny. Big T,

it's also a little bit of a big. Big T. I hope every person who is going to this doing heroin stops doing heroin. That is not what I think is going to happen. We didn't say every person would stop. Yeah, but there is the little bait and switch element, which is another, if you want to be nihilistic.

Sometimes they get them to like go to these safe shootup spots. And then they try to switch them on to either NART or what's the replacement. The box. Yeah. And they'll start giving them the stuff so they stop wanting to use heroin. And then they just start going to the places to get, not the Narcan, but the... Suboxin. Yeah, Suboxin.

And then they end up getting off the stuff. So then you get to people not shooting up in the street. They're shooting up there. They actually end up getting help there because they're all going there. And it's safe amounts. So, and it's monitored. An episode we really should do is fentanyl. Right.

that shit. They'll be drug testing. Fetano scares the shit out of me. Hang on, they're going to have drug testing at this place. That seems a little counterintuitive. No, no, like testing the drugs if it's not a place.

Oh, okay. We're just making sure the heroin's safe. Got it. Yes. Well, would you rather have safe heroin or fentanylaced heroin? There are, if you go to the doctor and you go under for a procedure,

you're taking heroin. You know that, right? Did you get your wisdom teeth out? No. If you ever, anybody so not big t any conservative not name not big t uh if you go get a surgery and they put you under you're getting a low dosage of heroin if you if you have a if you have pain medication right afterwards you get a low doses of heroin like morphine is a low doses of hair that's what it is

a medical doctor giving you that is not the same as doing it on the street that's why we don't want them doing it on the street that's what this is that's what this safe injection site is literally but again there's a purpose to taking you safe to taking it on the street that's why they give you safe to taking drugs like that after a surgery, there is not a necessarily. Not necessarily. That's not true. You don't agree with the purpose, but the purpose is to feel good. That's a purpose. It's the same reason why you drink alcohol.

Well, it's a pain reliever. It makes you feel good. A hundred percent. It's an emotional pain an addictive one. You have... Intentionally addictive pain reliever. Well, it's, but it also works better than other pain relievers. Not necessarily. Heroin is some of the best pain reliever that there is. Correct. I'm a morphine fan.

But there is a reason you're taking it. Yes. But the reason, because you don't agree with the reason does not make it a reason, right? I want to get high. That's a reason. If I want to drink a whole bottle of wine, that's a reason. And I think we found. Do you disassociate like alcohol use with heroin use?

Do you think it's a different thing? Yeah. What's the different? What I was going to say is I think we should have an episode where someone makes like we pretend it's 1928 or whenever prohibition was still in effect. Right. Like make the case for. alcohol's legality because it would not if it were still if alcohol and and weed have been switched these last hundred years they'd be having a real tough time selling people on alcohol

real like it'd be real tough i would have no problem with alcohol being illegal but i also what you said about um you like you want to get high and that's your reason that's fine and i that's totally fine that just should like the government shouldn't be you know what you want to get high come here and do it i don't think that's that's the business the government What do you, what do you, when you think of a government, what do you think that their role should play in a society? Protecting its citizens. That's it. Is, is public health a part of that? And does that fall under that umbrella? Kind of. I'm listening. I don't believe that we should be handing out drugs to people. I just don't. Like you can, hold on. We do though, but we do though.

How? People get addicted to more. Hold on, hold on, man. Yeah, that's not the government. they're not involved they're not involved in medicine well sure but like when you go to the hospital and get a surgery and they give you morphine like that's not the government that city government saying hey come to 120 it's drugs regulated by the FDA it's it's those are all government institutions that this that goes down the pipeline this is not yeah again but you you recognize that that's different than saying come to 120 west 100th street and get fucking heroin It's okay. So do you, sorry, are you saying you don't think the government should be involved in any public health? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no, no. I'm saying we shouldn't be passing out heroin. To what capacity. I feel like I'm being very clear. No, you're not. Because what you're doing, what you're doing is your, you're not, you're not being clear on on, on what capacity the government should be involved in public health. Like, where do you draw the line? I mean, you'd have to give me another example of. like should we have like I don't get your question the government should not be giving heroin to people that's my stance now if you want to say we're just saying public health like what other instances of public health should we have like COVID testing center sure so so if or COVID vaccine center sure that's a drug though yeah again anoculate yourself against COVID, not the same as doing heroin. I don't understand. You don't understand? You know, you're, I think you're disassociating, like, you're drawing this arbitrary line

between public health and whatever you feel is like irresponsible drug use. But it's still a part of public health. But it's still a part of public health. You have to, you have to, you have to be specific into why you think that is. Or else you're just saying, this is just how I feel. And if that's the case, okay, we could just, I, I, I, I mean, I, I, I, I mean, I think I am. I'm saying I don't I personally do not believe the government should have sinners where you can go do heroin. Right. And that's just how you feel. There's no like

this is how you feel you know. I mean what what else would it be? Because what I'm making the argument that that public health that there's no there's no blurred line. If it's helping people, it's helping people. There's there should be no and then we should regulate and and and and and and and give people the help that they need it regardless of of of what that actually entails, right? If, if weaning somebody off of heroin is a, is a part of public health, I'm for it, right? If giving them, if inoculating them against a virus is public health, I'm for it. You're saying, no, we draw the line here at heroin usage. And I don't. Because it's a public health issue. I have an example that I know you're going to hate and reject. But let's

just, let's just take this to its logical conclusion. Let's say we have people who are going out and stabbing people all the time right and we give them a place to go stab people yeah or punch people in the face do something a little less bad but boxing james uh but well it's got to be something that's still illegal i stab i don't know to stab animals yes yes let's let's give them a place to it's it's not as bad it's objectively not as bad it's still bad is that okay I'm all for this. This sounds awesome. Are you saying it's a bad analogy?

No, it's a bad analogy because we have places where people stab animals are called butcher shops. Well, exactly. But, oh, yes. Slaughter houses. Slaughter houses. It's not. You did just make the NRA argument for guns, like, because people like to hunt.

That's exactly why. Well, my whole argument is that this is being run by the government, not. If you want to go do heroin in your house and like, you think you're not going to get caught go for it it's not the cod aspect though it's the the safety is again this is a public health issue not necessarily like you keep viewing it as like you you would agree you would agree that homelessness is an issue right yes okay you would agree that drug use in general is an issue right yes these are these are policy issues that can demonstrably be changed by aiding people in those

areas. Would you disagree with that? I don't think this is the way to do it. No. Okay. Give me a solution. My problem is you haven't offered. I don't know. I don't know what the solution is. I don't believe it's this. But we're telling you this is work. Like the proven track. And it's not, it's the first time it's been done in this country. In the U.S. If you look at the U.S. Right. If you look, if you look at data in, if you look at data in, if you look at data from the dispensaries that are being placed all over America, uh, It's very clear that it's a safer way to regulate drug usage. It's just, it's not even, you know what even argues it.

I really hope that happens. You know where there's been. I don't think it's going to. You know where there's a surprisingly large amount of crime per capita? Where, Billy? Antarctica. Is it really? Yeah, no, it's actually, per capita, no, there's a ton.

I actually, so the show's top. today is Antarctica. Welcome. I do want to put it on the record that the craziest thing that we, part of that whole argument was that Arian said that he'd rather the inconvenience of an elbow surgery than a crack screen.

That was stuck in my head the entire time. Well, the ulna nerve sucks. That's what started the whole thing. Yeah. Crazy how we go from elbow surgery to that. Have you ever really bumped your elbow like funny bone like hard? Yes. Yeah. Dude, it's the worst.

Yeah, it doesn't feel good. Like your whole hand goes numb? I woke up the other day, and I thought I lost uses of my arm because it was just numb, and I couldn't feel it. And I just felt, it was scary as shit. Yeah. There's surprisingly a lot of people in this country have dead arms that doctors won't amputate.

What? Yeah. There's like a theory on that of why they don't do it. Probably legal. My science teacher in high school had a dead arm. She just had it, and she would just hold it. One of my best friends, one of my best friends does. Inkey Johnson, if you ever heard, you know Enki, Big T.

Mm-hmm. I have a signed Mickey Johnson helmet on my desk. Yeah, so Inky Johnson, if y'all don't know who he is, he's a great motivational speaker now. I play with him. He was in my signing class at the University of Tennessee. And we were playing Air Force 2006 and he went for a tackle and he lowered the head and he hit the crown of his head. And I think it was like a brachial plexus, baby. I'm going to be fucking that term up.

Yeah, severed some of his nerves. I'm probably fucking that up. But yeah, so he lost usage of his whole right arm. And actually, he's one of the most amazing humans I've ever came across because he took that and motivated himself to, I mean, he's big right now. So he's a really inspirational human being. So that and my father as well, I think he had something wrong with. So he doesn't have full uses of his arm.

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checkout to receive 5% off your order any who uh billy this is this is your time to shine man let it go which you already you already fail and what you set out to do i know i know i should shut down the drug talk we're an hour and two minutes and fuck yeah that's about we're that's about on brand right Some macro shit right there. Correct. But Billy was trying to change the brands. I'm trying to get it. Yeah, we never exploited the area.

Before you were in the Zoom, Billy, like, like, Coley joined and we were just saying hello. And Billy goes, like, when it started going in on this two-minute diatribe about how, like, we don't do the show right and he's going to change it. That's not what that is not. I just wanted a little more. He laid out a decree. I did not lay out a decree. Don't make this sound like I said, you said, we don't do enough facts in this show. And you want to get through the whole.

fact sheet because I write these fact sheets and a lot of great facts fall by the wayside. Bro, Billy, Billy busted in a saloon and said, look here, look here since PFT's gone. There's a new cowboy in town. Literally. I mean, the second he sat down in that chair.

This is a fucking anthony. I'm gonna keep it a buck. I totally thought because, you know, PFT, when he's going, like, you know, I kind of take over the hosting responsibility. Billy just Billy cutting the line. Yeah.

He was like, I'm so forward, though, man. Last night, Billy said we should do Antarctica and Arian said that sounds dumb as shit. You got to convince me why we should do that. Bro, Antarctica's actually, I don't know, I just want to, you know, there's some cool facts. No, I fuck a Billy, man, the long way. You know what you should do real quick? This is nothing to what we just said, but that whiteboard in front of our desk. Billy draw a frog or some shit on that, bro.

We will. We're working on it. I'll find a good thing to put on there. Okay, bad. All right, Billy, this is you, man. Take us away, baby. Antarctica. I think Antarctica is going to be a hugely big factor in the next coming centuries, in my opinion.

With stuff like global warming happening, Antarctica now basically a giant ice desert, I think will one day be an oasis that could be the newest place to sort of move humanity. But anyway, it is the size of basically two Australia's. It's actually very convenient that on exactly the South Pole, there is a island that sort of surrounds it. Some interesting facts about Antarctica. When you're standing on Antarctica, every way you face is basically north. Wait, I think I did that wrong. Every way you face is, yeah, north.

So it's a weird place. It's got a couple of research facilities on the continent in a very small population. that kind of has a lot of weird problems because they're so isolated, they're inside all the time, and it comes with some interesting things to tackle. But basically, here's some statistics on the Antarctic ice sheet that is, you know, basically covers the entire continent. It's 5.4 million square miles is 7.2 million cubic miles. Its maximum depth is 15,000 feet. It's average. depth is 7,000 feet and it covers roughly 98% of Antarctica. It contains 90% of the ice on earth. It also contains 70% of the world's fresh water. And 2% of the Antarctic ice sheet

is penguin pee. So, all right, let's get spicy. You say penguin pee? Yeah. You want to expound on that? Because there's so many penguins on Antarctica, they pee and then the ice freezes. Oh, it's literally like a sheet of penguin urine. Wow. That's actually pretty interesting. I read it. It has nothing to do with this episode. I was a couple of days ago I was reading about penguins. They actually, they stink.

Like, I didn't know that. They're putrid. Yeah, they're fish. But it's like, there's a, I forget the reason. I'm going to look it up. But like, they are notoriously like stinky fucking, like, it's not like a fish smell. I mean, some people like fish smell, but like they actually like They actually stink. I'm going to look it up.

There's a, I mean, if you've ever been to an aquarium, I feel like that's the most odiferous region of the aquarium. I'll fuck with aquariums. No, because of the sea jail that they're in. That's what, yeah, it's sea jail. Especially SeaWorld, man. I ain't been to SeaWorld. Well, yeah, that's a little, I feel like that's a little different than your standard aquarium.

I mean, is it? They treat the sea turrets. at the New England Aquarium very well. They're not Tillik, they're not Tillikun, Tillikung, his ass at all. There are seven territorial claims on Antarctica, Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway, in the United Kingdom, all have places in Antarctica. Russia and the United States also are allowed to have claims on Antarctica, but they haven't made them yet. The USSR used to make a claim, but now that is transferred to current day.

Russia. So there was actually the first Cold War arms arms control deal was actually the Antarctic Treaty and that was due to restricting any armaments being put on Antarctica.

Interesting fact, there was almost a breakout of war between English scientists and Argentinians. Basically this is actually a crazy story. The English for setting up a little research cabin

and these Argentinian dudes just started lighting them up with machine guns in Antarctica that's it's pretty wild I mean yeah I've never heard of that but I'm going to take your word for it tensions were some of the precursors

the Falkland Wars so scientists was just was walking around with A case kind of yeah sounds wild man I'm gonna roll with it let's just let's just go crime in Antarctica here's the list of

of crimes. There actually has been tons of... I was going to say that treaty, that Antarctic treaty is a fucking cornerstone of the Flat Earth. I know. I know. So, you know, the Antarctic does play a huge role in the Flat Earth

episode. I think we talked a ton about it, how there's so many differing accounts of the ice wall and whatnot. But the truth is, you know, the Antarctic is mostly just an ice desert. It's just a block of ice. with tons of just, you know, barren wasteland. And you can visit.

It's just not wise to and it's regulated. Like, you can. It's not like there's security guards with cameras and shit. Like, it's just not smart because traversing that terrain is deadly. It's hard to get to and there's no resources. I think almost everyone who goes to Antarctica needs to get their appendix removed. And there was an instance, yeah, because they can't do an appendectomy on. in Antarctica.

So you can't have an appendix and go to Antarctica? Because it's a liability that you could die out there with an appendix. So I googled, do you need your appendix out to go to Antarctica? And the answer is no, unless you were a doctor and are staying there for the entire winter. No, yeah. So what I mean is you can visit the place that people usually go with the tourist place. You don't need to get it removed, but to stay in the research cabinet, like the actual places where people stay for a long time, you need your appendix removed.

Billy, can I ask you a question about America? Yeah. What is the tourist attractions that you are speaking of? So there's this one point where people claim is just like, for flat earthers is just like a southernmost island that you can just go to, sort of like how they say Australia isn't real and it's just South America where people get flown to. You know that Australia isn't real theory? Well, the place they go, like the tourist attraction is,

Basically, you can take a boat from Chile or one of the southernmost parts of South America, which takes you to that sort of place on the continent, which is sort of like it juts out. It's different. It's technically under New Zealand's control. Yeah. You know, this is wild A little sidebar fact In 1961, a Russian doctor

Stationed Uh Uh, uh, some, I'm not even going to attempt to say that word. Some station removed his own appendix. Yeah. With no outside help possible,

he's local anesthetic. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. You don't need it removed unless you're staying for a long time, I guess. But it's not really, you'll be straight. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like that's one of those rules where it's like it happened one. And so they had to make a rule about it. But like the, because you can visit Antarctica for like a day. That's usually what people when they go to Antarctica do. But there's tons of, a lot of people look at Antarctica through Google Earth and try to find different types of either, you know, secret UFO bases or like different types of the topography sometimes starts to look like stuff and people claim it stuff. But there is like conspiracies about. secret Nazi bunkers in Antarctica where Hitler went after the war and even though the Nazis did go to Antarctica in like the 1930s they do not have any claim on it currently like Germany in itself

but they called it a new swabia there was a part of Antarctica that Nazis colonized and called New Swabia is just drop stuff there you might bring this up later but isn't there micro countries on Antarctica? Yeah, there was someone try to claim parts of Antarctica as their own and create their own currency in small country, but they never actually went there. So a lot of crazy stuff. So basically, because everyone's indoors in long term in Antarctica, they kind of go a little cabin fever and stir crazy. I just wanted to read a couple crimes that happened in Antarctica. There are a couple crimes. There actually is a good amount of drug use. in Antarctica because, you know, there's literally nothing to do there.

So there was several instances of illicit drug use. Other crimes include torturing and killing wildlife, racing motorbikes through environmentally sensitive area, and assault with deadly weapons, attempted murder, and arson. So, but some specific, so the first instance of crime in Antarctica is in 1959, the Volstock station, then a Soviet research station in Prince Elizabeth Land, was the scene of a fight between two scientists over a game of chess. When one of them lost the game, he became so enraged that he attacked the other with an ice axe.

According to some sources, it was a murder, though other sources say the attack was not fatal. After a KGB investigation, chess games were banned at the Soviet Russian Antarctic stations by the Antarctic Soviet Commission. So, yeah, they're so bored out there, they just end up attacking each other with ice picks. the next one was an Argentinian research station located at the Contrae Peninsula by Paradise Harbor the station's original facilities were burned down

by the station's leader and doctor on the 12th of April 1984 after his orders stay for the winter the station personnel were rescued by the ship hero and taking to Palmer Station an American research station on Anvers Island yeah just a lot of people just go nuts

when they're out in these research facilities as they should there ain't nothing to do out there that cabin fever is a real thing yeah so one of the craziest parts of antarctica is that there is a lake underneath the ice sheet called lake vostok and russian uh there's been a russian camp there focused on drilling through you know several thousand feet of ice to get to this underwater freshwater lake so because the ice is under so much pressure it actually uh turns back to water so crazy thing water is different than other um molecules in that when water gets hotter

it actually uh expands in no when water gets colder it actually expands that's why if you freeze a bottle of beer something it explodes so when you pressurize ice so much at some point it actually goes back to liquid something that's very different than other uh makes makeups of like different substances so under antarctica there's this huge freshwater lake that they've been drilling towards and there might be literal tons of life down there and that could be representative of life on other planets so i found that really cool they haven't actually gotten down there yet because every time they drill the hole they have to use antifreeze and they don't want to contaminate the actual lake with the antifreeze that the Russians are using and the

technology for hot water drilling where they can just consistently heat the drill as it goes down hasn't really gotten up to speed yet so what happens is they're drilling through all this ice and every time they almost get to the bottom if any water makes it through since it's so pressurized it just floods up through and refreezes immediately so there could be some serious findings if they finally go down there there could be any sort of crazy life living down there because Antarctica at one point was a very tropical island like when we talk about Pangaea moving

there's actually there's a lot of fossils found in Antarctica dinosaur fossils it was like a totally like hustling bustling almost tropical paradise kind of sort of like Australia in a way so hypothetically when antarctica was freezing over there may have been you know any sort of life forms that were still under there that has survived under the ice sheet and they've discovered bacteria and eukaryotes that they think are either very relative to what life on plants like Pluto or some of the moons of Saturn are actually Europe. Europa. Exactly. So, I mean, it's pretty insane that there's a giant freshwater lake underneath

Antarctica, basically almost smack dab in the middle. It's pretty gigantic. What kind of, I mean, if you think about the, this is fun to postulate, what kind of life, because when you think about life and how it develops because of, you know, how we know evolution works, Billy. The environmental factors, like, what kind of life would you. predict if it is living down there would be down there. So basically small

bacterium or eukaryotes which are different than bacteria but it's like a weird sort of I got looked at up but basically some fungi in basically very micro micro forms as they say. So nothing major nothing big. I mean hypothetically there could be you know sturgeon type fish living down there because there are reports that there are like geothermal heat being emanated

that deep. So all sorts of stuff. But I actually think, you know, Antarctica, as someone, you know, we grew up in the 21st century and we've been hearing ever since 2011 Al Gore about global warming and everyone's just saying the world's totally screwed. I like to think that Antarctica might be the final frontier if it really does you know everything go to shit so I think Antarctica is going to play a much larger role than we think in the future what do you mean if everything goes to shit like well they're saying that the climate like let's say water levels rise

a vast majority of the worth a world becomes uninhabitable that used to be habitable climates become so uncomfortable and so unpredictable weather wise they say that Antarctica if we get those several tempest degrees of temperature increase will instead of being the ice desert it currently is will more look like places in temperate climates like northern Europe so or you said it's the size of two australias yep how many people live in australia well the thing is population density we could fit 20 million i know but we can fit the whole world with the population density of new york i think

into Texas. That would be mad while the subway rise would be shit. There's actually a 26 million people within Australia. Now granted, obviously a lot of that is uninhabited land. Okay, so if explain this to me, Billy, if the, if the climate continues to rise. Antarctica isn't a land, right? It's ice. So would it not just melt or would it continue to be ice and we find ways to survive on ice? No, it's pretty crazy is Antarctica is an actual, like most of the North Pole is ice in an ice cap. But much of Antarctica is an actual island. So it's a land. There's land mass. It's a huge landmass, which is insane about it.

So do they know how thick the ice sheet is? It accounts for, like, what? 70% of Earths, yeah. Yeah, so it's about 7,000 feet deep on average. 7,000 feet of ice? Yeah, that's fucking crazy. But there are, you know, land masses that jut out of the ice. So did you do anything about research on the pyramid that they found?

I know it's kind of like a little conspiratorial, but go ahead, shoot, shoot. Google Maps has a lot of land masses that sort of. sort of become very, when people are looking on Google Earth, they're seeing stuff. They have no way of explaining. And Antarctica, the images of Antarctica on Google Earth get updated a little more than other places because they don't have to, you know, get permission to take pictures of the places because no one's inhabiting them. So you'll see like tons of land masses, different mountains that people are sort of just

looking out on Google Earth and be like, this is a pyramid. yeah the um that we should we could actually do a whole episode on pyramids because that shit is interesting how they form and the the time periods in which they showed up in throughout our history um what else you got man this is this is your factoid this is your fact off right now man so hit us hit us with a dog there's also a gigantic hole in antarctica called the um when the weddle polynia which is just an ice hole the size of new zealand that's just in the middle of antarctica that melts due to geothermal heat and it's just a literal everyone thinks that it's some sort of like hole to another dimension if you're looking at it through google earth but

it's actually very interesting uh uh geoscientific like phenomena so it's uh it's pretty interesting i mean there are tons of conspiracies about antarctica about like the no-go zones which is really just places that that you can't go because there's nothing there and if you go you'll probably die so that's why there's a lot of mystery around antarctica it's breeding ground for conspiracies uh anytime there's rules what um have you have you ever have you ever think this is interesting to me i haven't done no research in this so i'm just asking have you like we i remember when i was growing up we used to hear a lot about the ozone layer we don't we hear about that shit anymore do you know why

because i think we banned the beef the the the bFCs that wasn't out of the clinton administration all the hair spray that went out of style aerosol it's starting people are going to let's check in let's check it's starting to heal itself yeah I think I think yeah the ozone layer there was a big place that was on Australia

how is the ozone doing who's the ozone doing? I just checking on the ozone I still couldn't even tell you what the ozone really is CFC damage ozone layer rescued from CFC damage

Antarctic ozone hole is 13th largest on record from National Ocean and atmospheric administration. So according to the BBC, the ozone layers healing process is back on track. Oh, so it was going well

and then... It wasn't. There was a legal CFC production that was occurring in eastern China and now they've curbed that and has sort of... It's back on track. But I didn't realize there were multiple holes in it.

I thought it was just one hole. But there... I mean, this one's... says the Antarctic ozone hole is the 13th largest or is it just how many holes are there that's what I'm saying or is it one hole and it heals itself and then another hole rips open I don't know how the ozone works there's only was a highly reactive gas composed of three oxygen atoms it is both a natural and a manmade product that occurs in the earth's upper atmosphere the stratosphere and lower atmosphere the troposphere depending on where it is in the

atmosphere, ozone affects life on Earth in either good or bad way. Stratxphere ozone is formed naturally through the interaction of solar ultraviolet radiation with molecular oxygen O2, the ozone layer, approximately six through 30 miles above the Earth's surface, reduces the amount of harmful UV radiation reaching the Earth surface. So I guess it protects us from UV rays. So I'm reading something and it says the ozone hole in Antarctica, it begins every September. So it opens up every September because chlorine and bromine derived from human-produced compounds are released from reactions on high-altitude polar clouds, and then the chemicals start to break down

the ozone layer, and then at the end of winter, it heals itself, or heals it to whatever extent that is. So it's weird because all the different settlements and research facilities all run on their home country's local time because there's six months of sun and six months of darkness every year. So is there? So there's no day or night.

No, but the time zone that they're in. Or is it? There's no time zone because it's just, it's a year. Six months sun's up, six months, sun's down. But that, but there's still 24 hours in a day. Right, but there's no,

it's light for all 24 hours or dark for all 24 hours. but how do you know what time it is you can't that's why they run on their home it's digital time is digital right but they but because the sun doesn't behave the same as it does closer to the equator they can't tell you what they can't tell you right because they use their local time so if i'm a british expedition you're just saying it's 3 p.m because it's 3 p.m. in london yeah exactly why doesn't i feel like america should have more of a stake in antarctica that feels like an american thing to do we have researchers there, but because it was so, you know, testy during the Cold War, the USSR and the

US were just like, we're not going to state claims. It's not worth it. Yeah, they're like, we can state claims, or we're not going to, you know, waste resources on it because. Why not now? Well, now there is American researchers at, you know, different bases across the continent. And actually, there's a huge sort of group so the reddit antarctica group is sort of a good like if you want to see first hand accounts of people who work in antarctica just like different types of laborers there and a lot of chefs and you know there's a big group who want to end up actually working there and aspire to making it to antarctica i think you know uh buckminster fuller you know the guy who developed bucky balls i don't know what bucky balls are the the the magnetic oh the

like silver like yeah line of balls the guy who also developed the geodesic dome so like he wanted designed dome cities that could be put up in Antarctica and he had like in 1965 he discussed Antarctica as a place that he could put these um uh put these two kilometer uh the diameter like would be two kilometers and they could have 40,000 residents in these dome cities that'd be climate controlled i don't know i just i like to think of you know everyone's like space is the next frontier but if you know it does really all sort of get messy with um global warming antarctica could be a spot so i went to the reddit for there were the subreddit for antarctica yeah and also i don't do you pronounce the the seconds or the sea in it do you say

antarctica or antarctica because i i just yeah i just it's it's I think the sea is, I think it's there. Yeah, okay. Antarctica. And Arctic. Because you would say the Antarctic. Yeah, the Arctic. Yeah, the Arctic.

I'm just lazy. Well, remember we talked about this on another show. The Arctic means bears. Bears. Antarctic means no bears. So I, there's a. I love that. I'm right.

I should tick on the hell out of you. I appreciate that. There's a subretter, or there's a thread on the subreddit that says, would a large human civilization in Antarctica melt its ice? Hypothetically, if a large human civilization populated in Antarctica and only used renewable energy sources, which is like, I guess, the most important part of that,

would a large amount of Antarctica's ice melt due to say the people's body heat or them constantly walking or driving over the ice or snow? And this person says, no, it's similar to the question how much would the water level rise if everyone stood in the ocean. The amount of ice is too great for anything at a human scale to affect it. However, cities give off a lot of heat

enough to create their own climate zones and this might cause localized changes in ice thickness. That's interesting. So how much ice would need to be melted? Well, I'll take that back. If the ice was melted from the landmass, right, to reach the landmass, would that not just flood it

or would we actually see the landmass before that would happen? So the water would probably all drain into the ocean. Right. And then probably raise and then sea levels would rise Yeah

Which would reduce the continent size Which would then leave less room Like it would It's like a chain of action If all the ice in the Antarctic Melted it would be pretty messy For everybody That's what I'm saying

It would definitely flood a lot of places I'm saying I'm saying Would it flood the actual land mass On Antarctica No It would sort of all drain off into the ocean Basically that That's the safest place to be

Yeah that that subreddit thread is saying basically that human can affect it so if ever like seven billion people went to antarctic Antarctica and lived there we wouldn't if we were good about it we wouldn't change as much but if we started like making it a civilization and putting buildings and cities and making it right you know but there's like huge mountainous structures and volcanoes on Antarctica that they think will be the best places to inhabit because they're already jutting out above the ice so if everything started to melt those would be the places that farming could start and actually like get a get something going but how would farming like how would anything survive just greenhouses no you they could actually if the temper if the temperature does change those would be the spots that like they're saying in the 22nd century like being in the 22nd century we might have to start like actually looking at Antarctica is a place to land also this is just a me thing I don't

think Antarctica is that cold just from the looks of it I think I am to be fine I think if I were a good good jacket I it just doesn't seem that some places are from Ohio Antarctic no I have no but I'm saying like looking at pictures of it I can't maybe it's just because my brain can't comprehend how cold it would be oh in my head it would just be like a chilly day. I can't comprehend how cold. Yeah. What are you smoking? I just feel like

she's been to the heroin center. No. It's a it's a negative 20 right now. I know I looked up the weather already today and it said it was negative 17. I just in my head I can't. Are you thinking it's like

process how cold it is? It's like some of the windiest places. It's gone up to 65 degrees. Right. Sometimes like sometimes in Ohio people like to complain about how cold it is to be like it's colder in Ohio than it is in Antarctica today if I can handle Ohio can I handle Antarctica

probably not but but like that's 64 degrees on a super sunny day probably toward at the height of summer I could handle Antarctica in the summer but in the winter when it's been dark for like five six months like nothing's heating it yeah so it's literally negative 80 I never said what time of year I thought I could handle it like

Like, there's videos of people, you know, walking out in, like, their eyeballs freezing. That's not true, Billy. Like, no, seriously, their eyeballs freeze over. Like, when they die. I sound like a little bit of camp right there. Okay, let me back that up. I just in my head, looking at pictures. I mean, you started the example by saying walking in their eyeballs freezing.

So now it's, they're dead. You can't be walking in dead. Walking dead. Zombies in Antarctica? I do. Madeline, are you thinking like how Arizona's 110 isn't as hot as Florida's 110 because the lack of humidity? Is that why you think it's not humidity? No, no, not even that because that's a whole different thing.

And I just, I just in my brain, I think I could handle Antarctica. I think, I hope you can. You should go and see. I would like to go. But I just think it's one of those things where whenever I see people in Antichron, maybe because it's also I watch. Mr. Popper's Penguins and they went to Antarctica and they were just wearing like winter coats. But in my head, if I wore a good coat and I prepared well and I had hand warmers, I could do it. But I know that's not how that works.

When you mean you could do it, do you mean you could just like walk around for a little bit? Yeah, like that not that I could live there and inhabit there, but I could I could just go outside and take it. I'm currently watching a video from Antarctica where it's negative. negative 100 degrees and like the inside of the door not the outside the like in the building is just coated in ice and she opens it and then snow just like pours in instantaneously and like it's not thinking about that i mean it's not even like it is a it's a different planet i know but i think the only the only things i've seen from Antarctica are movies and so i don't send that send that Send that video to the chat, Big T.

Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I'm strong. It's one of those things where it's like, you think you're tougher than the sun, bro, the fucking sun. I think I'm tougher than Antarctica. So the summer in Antarctica is, it starts Wednesday, December 22nd and ends March 21st. Should I go? Yeah, this is your time to shine.

It's about to be prime Maddie season in Antarctica. I need to get a new passport and then I'm there. The South Pole. You need a passport to answer. Antarctica and Big, so. I'm leaving the country. To enter. Oh, not to enter, but to leave America.

I think if you can get into... Can I fly private there? Yeah, because... I think that's the only way to do it. There's no commercial flight. Well, no, but I don't even know how you'd get there. Or would I need like a government regulated flight? So I think the way that people usually go is you have to travel to any of those countries

that have a claim and then if you're wanting to go from there. Because there's tourists that go. Yeah. Also, Big T, this is very scary. This video you sent is very scary. I'll post it on our Twitter. And it kind of looks like the door in

Monsters Inc. Like a scary door in Monsters Inc. You know what I'm talking about? There's no way in hell. I would go to Antarctica. And she's just wearing like a hoodie. Like it's just a normal chilling like a regular hoodie. the beanie like it's fall she's gonna go let's go pick at the whole the whole it's not just the door

dog the whole wall inside yeah is iced hell under snow no I'm straight yeah so basically the best way to get to Antarctica is you fly to New Zealand oh no you go to Argentina nah I mean this is bad and then yeah so you fly into Buenos Aires then you fly to Buenos Aires then you fly to Ushuaya, Argentina, and then throughout the summer, the port of Ushoya embarks and disembarked expedition vessels bound for the southern wilderness as seamlessly as any harbor in the Virgin Islands, Mediterranean, or Alaska. So they cross by sea and they traverse the famous Drake Passage that separates South America from the Antarctic Peninsula.

I love how you say that, by the way. Which one? Peninsula. Peninsula. It's one of those ones I know. No, I said I love how you say. Am I saying it weird? I think you said peninsula.

Yeah, you're really holding on to that you. Peninsula. I don't really know the correct, but I like that one. I'm going to go with that one. Peninsula. So depending on conditions, this crossing often takes a day and a half at sea. And that's, and then you basically just go there. You can't stay there.

You spend a day there. Then you just go back. I mean, it's like a mass. waste of time. Yes. It's more for people who want to go to every continent. We have rich people. Yeah.

It's like we've been to all six continents and they want to go to the seventh. I mean, like it's cool to say that you've been on every landmass on the planet you are. That's pretty cool to say. I feel like you've got to go pretty deep in. The outskirts of Antarctica just breaking off into the sea so often. Like I don't even know if people can call it. blame that anymore.

That ain't real. Yeah, they didn't touch they didn't touch grass in Antarctica. I'm not now. I wonder I wonder how many

people who actually went to space haven't been to Antarctica. I bet those are just like two different circles. I was saying like all of them, probably. You think Jeff Bezos has been

to Antarctica? No. I don't think so. There's no money to be there's no prime there. We would have blogged it. You definitely would have talked about it. It's crazy to leave the plant before going to all the continents.

But. Not really. There's no ice there, bro. There's nothing there. I also feel like the people who are researching Antarctica and the people are researching space are two different groups of people. I feel like more people. Like, what do you think the crossover between like, do you think John Glenn's been to Africa?

Like, I don't. Like, I was, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I bet there's been like the amount of astronauts who have gone to space and also Africa is probably similar to Antarctica. Yeah, I just don't think they're in the same group of people. But it depends, right?

Because astronauts are just astronauts, right? They don't study. For sure. They're different scientists and they have different fields and, you know, depending on whatever. So it depends on what field of study they came from. So if I would like the geologists, maybe I would venture to say they probably have or something along those lines. There's just been so few people who have been to space. Astronauts is the best way to account for most of those people.

Let's see how many people, how many people have been. to space. I'm Americans because we don't give a fuck about anybody else. Yeah, no, the Russian numbers

are inflated for sure. Definitely the Chinese. I'm looking at this in some of these places in Antarctica like actually have like grass and stuff. That's grass, I could do it.

Yeah, but the places that they're going. If a blade of grass can survive, Mad Dog can take on Antarctica, no problem. Like there's kind of like jackets. 500. in this pamphlet here. These are not heavy.

Like, I don't see no Canada goose. Like, these people are... 556 people have reached the altitude of space according to the F-AI definition of the boundary of space. 24 people have traveled beyond low Earth orbit and either circled orbited or walked on the moon. So let's say 24 to be safe. Yeah.

These people aren't even wearing hats in this picture. This Antarctic Peninsula... This is... like I'm going to freaking Florida Yeah These people are beachfront This is they're going from them This Antarctic Peninsula like almost touches South America

That's fake Antarctica I don't care if it's not They're calling it West Antarctica I don't know how you can tell when you're that low on the poles But East Antarctica looks like where it's at In terms of chilliness That's where the clubs is popping That's where the movie

The Thing got filmed That's where the holes at. These people, this picture, these people are on a boat, whale watching, taking pictures and don't have gloves on in the, and they're on water. I could do it. Man, why are you so upset at people in Antarctica? Because I just feel like I could do it. I think you can. There's been people there, but like, you're talking about living in extended time?

I don't think so, but you could visit. I don't want to do that. East Antarctica. My summer in Antarctica. Yeah. They're paddleboarding. No. They're paddleboarding in the Antarctic Peninsula.

Are they kayaking? No, they're stand up paddleboarding. They're supping in the Antarctic Peninsula. Yeah, they're doing both. What the fuck? Yeah, the peninsula's fake. Antarctica is warm. That's what I'm saying.

These people haven't touched grass. They don't count. If you fall in the water. How cold is the water? I don't know. Good thing. I'm really good at. paddle boarding.

I'm a paddoboard in a lake. I think it's actually not that dangerous because the water is so salty. It's like there's a certain brine that everything just floats so naturally. Billy, do you have any facts on the type of

scary animals that would be in that water? Leopard seals, whales, you know, happy feet. Okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know Mr. Popper's thing? No. Do you remember that movie? Jim Carrey. They were in New York. They had penguins in his apartment in New York and they ate at Tavern on the Green. That's how I know what Tavern on the green is from that movie. Yeah, dude, there's definitely like some of these first expeditions like Ernest Henry Shackleton who are trying to find the. That's a fake person. Shackleton? Yeah, that has to be fake. No, he's super he's super like he's a super famous explorer. I think he died out there. I think he did. I think I wrote about him. I kind of remember. Yeah.

Ernest Shackleton he was an Anglo-Irish Antarctic explorer who led three British expeditions to the Antarctic. He was one of the principal figures of the period known as the heroic age of Antarctic exploration. Yeah, dude, that's pretty. So

this is actually fucking interesting though. Hell off. Not hell of it. It was just talking about the water. They were saying like, well, why don't the Antarctic fish freeze if it's in the sub-zero temperatures? And they found that the fish, There have antifreeze proteins that work better than any kind of antifreeze

and it keeps the fish from freezing. They don't really know how it works, but it's, they just have like special shit. Evolution. Environmental factors, Billy. Yeah, the only ones who survived were the ones who had those proteins. Agreed. Agreed, Billy. Yeah, Shackleton died of a heart attack.

and was buried in South Georgia, which is South Georgia Island is right by the Falklands. Yeah, actually, the Falkland Wars, do you remember? That was like your time, like, in late 90s. You're staring at my time. How old man? Regal us with a tale of the wars you saw. Do you get to say what?

No, I think like it's crazy that a gun fight. Your time. A gun fight. But you guys remember the Falkland Wars? I remember the Falkland War. What were they? It was a 10-week undeclared war between Argentina and the United Kingdom in 1982. Sorry, a little later.

Man, that wasn't my time. A little earlier. That's crazy. No, I wasn't alive during the Falkland Times. That's such a weird area of the world that I just don't think about. Like the Falkland Islands. I also don't know what those are. In the Antarctic Peninsula.

so the Antarctic Peninsula is low-key kind of basically like Patagonia like the far coldest parts of Patagonia is kind of like the Antarctic Peninsula Auckland also I just learned that if you guys watch accession the places the fancy places that they go to in Europe are than the Balkans just learned that the Balkans yeah well they go to Italy a bunch but they have they go on these crazy vacations and apparently they're in the Balkans. Hmm. So,

well, yeah, what's the big yacht Montenegro? Montenegro's a country. Yeah, is that where they go with their yachts?

Yeah, super rich people. Yeah. That's how I know. I know. I know McGregor. I know where Gregor goes yachting there.

I don't know. I want to go there after Donnie's video. We'll be right back to talk more about Antarctica and various other topics. But I want to tell you about our friends at BetterHelp.

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actually there was a ton of casualties. How many? What's the ton? I mean, there was, 255 English casualties and there was 649

Argentinian casualties What were they fighting over? Just some islands off the coast of Argentina that the English had claims on. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

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thus characterize its military action as reclamation of its own territory. The British government regarded the action as an invasion of a territory that had been a crown colony since 1841. Falkland Islanders, who have inhabited the island since the early 19th century, are predominantly descendants of British settlers and strongly favor British sovereignty. Neither state officially declared war, although both governments declared the islands a war zone the conflict has had a strong effect in both countries and has been the subject of various books articles films and songs patriotic sentiments ran high in

argentina but the unfavoral outcome prompted large approaches against ruling military governing government hastening its downfall in the democratization of the country hmm crazy no man um it's not that crazy people fucking killing each other for land. It's pretty poor for humans. That's why I'm over this place. World War 3 is going to be fought in Antarctica. I don't think so. I think World War 3 is going to

wipe out a lot of humans. It's going to be a nuke war. Yeah. Yeah. You don't think so? I think it's a be like. Yeah, that's going to be, that's going to suck when that happens. It's going to be like nuke or like bioterror, like

Like. Do you think Oh, you mean like a country potentially using a weapon of an illness to inflict upon the entire world either that or them the likes of which it travels through humans has never been seen before don't you think if COVID this has definitely been seen before what are you talking about bro don't you think of COVID transmits human to human

better than any virus we've ever seen no what you said the likes that we've never seen before no the thing is a litany of contagious virus what happens is the the bat like for example, the flu virus from 1918 was a lot stronger than the flu virus we have now. It's like it gets like less deadly. And that's what they think Omnicron is going to be. Omicron. Omicron.

That's not true. It doesn't get less like. Like it spreads easier but isn't as harmful. Don't you think that China would have done a better job? A better job than infecting how many tens or hundreds of millions of people. But don't you think it would have been like a plague? I agree. I give them a C plus at best for their for COVID. Don't you think it would have been like the

plague where it's like if you get it, it's pretty much you're done. How many tens of millions of people have died? They shut down multiple countries like, not even multiple countries like. But what did they what did they gain from? Let's follow. Let me take a page from Big T's book. Let's take

this to this logical conclusion. Our economy is screwed. Is, is no, it's not economy. The best has been in a long time. No, it is. No, it is not. No, not. Look at the gas prices. Are you kidding me? Our economy is not good right now? We have inflation that we've never seen before.

We've lost more jobs. What is your metric for a good economy? I need both of you guys. Not, not things. No, no, don't tell me what not is a good, what is not a good economy? Okay, I will tell you what the economy is doing well when we don't have record levels of inflation. I don't understand. What is your metric for a good economy?

When the dollar is worth a dollar? Which it's not What the fuck does that even How hasn't been at any point Other that sentence When the dollar is worth a dollar That doesn't And no point of your lifetime

Is that been true If that's your definition Okay but you Coley you agree that the inflation We have now is horrific Well inflation can only go up So I'm confused when you say Right like the inflation's always going to be record

Like I have a hard time What is your Well PPE What is your metric for a good economy Well the purchase it depends on who you... I'm not talking to you, Billy. I'm going to talk to you.

When your purchasing power is optimized. Expound on that. When the dollar is doing well relative to its counterparts around the world and you have the relatively same amount of purchasing power as you had, say, six months a year ago. Everything is twice as expensive as it was two years ago. Everything is not... That's not true.

What are you talking about? The mine is really untrue. It has to do with purchase power. Yes, but we still, I think we relatively have the same amount of purchase power as we did two years ago. And gas prices are up, food prices are up. Almost everything is up. The food price articles that everything is going up are just, like, blatantly not true. And I, well, as a-

But Kamala Harris even said it. Someone who buys more groceries and everyone in that room, save maybe Aryan, though I don't know his eating practices. They're not. Like the milk going up to $9 a gallon article that came out, that was bull. shit immediately. People keep taking prices of these gas signs that are like $9. That's not true. I agree, gas is more expensive. And I, every time I say this, I get this weird pushback that I do not understand. No one was buying gas for an entire year. Of course, the prices went up. This is not the most expensive I've seen gas in my gas buying lifetime, not by a long shot. We've seen it more

than this. So when I hear the purchasing power isn't what it used to be. It's just wrong. like I it's not even anecdotal proven to be wrong the I agree things have played it a little bit right now from where they were last year of course they have that's happened my entire life so when it when it's seen when it's blown out of this proportion is like oh we've never seen this before yeah of course we have what you're talking about this happens all the time they inflate shit on us like we are on the wrong side of this equation we always have and we always will be it is what it is like I don't the the rate like the terror and everyone's voice is like shocking to me really it genuinely shocks me because like

this has been my entire life gas has gone up gas has plummeted down like everyone just wants this fucking pat on the back like that's just how it's always worked so i think right now it's like six percent i think inflation and the the the goal is like less than two those three i don't know i'm uh nearly three quarters of the economists surveyed by the national association for business economics said they don't expect annual inflation to fall below the federal reserves two percent target until the second half of twenty twenty three or later The core consumer price index, which excludes food and energy costs, is now expected to rise 6% from the fourth quarter of 2020 to the fourth quarter of 2021 compared to the September forecast of a 5.1% increase over the same period. Do you understand or see my premise, though, that I think.

I do understand what you're saying. I think it's worse than you think it is. No, but my point is not even necessarily the tirade I went on at the end, but what I started with. Like, I would be shocked to find out many companies finished last year, 2020, in the black. I imagine the vast majority of companies finished in the red, like huge negatives that they've never seen. So the price swinging back up to make up for a year of lost revenue doesn't really shock me. Like, it's an immediate short fix that I believe most companies would have installed. Like, when I think of inflation, and this is not going to be something everyone understands, or cares about. When I was growing up, the price of a hoodie was not $60 to $65,

which has now become the standard that everyone just accepts. Jordans were not $220. When they got to $180, people were freaking out. When I see that long-term inflation, that's what infuriates me more than people, what I believe. And again, I don't, I'm not saying this is fact. This is just what I think is happening. The vast majority of companies lost money last year. They've tried to make it up quickly, and I do not blame them. Like, I understand why they would want to not constantly lose money. But also, NBA, the NFL, these kind of companies lost millions and billions of dollars. Of course things are going to be more expensive.

Well, more has to do with not inflation as a whole, but hyperinflation. You have to admit that there has been an exponential increase that is differing from that is higher than I've ever seen in my lifetime. Again, we're also, gas is not the highest it's ever been. That's just patently false. Right, right. Which is the big talking point. people like to bring up like it's not when the 2004 to 2006 I believe it was like

touching six dollars actually in California um this so like I just said yeah I does it does not surprise me that a one year turnaround where everyone lost money they made things more expensive to try and recoup some of those losses but the metric that's a permanent thing do I think that's anyone in charge's fault no that feels that's where I draw a line of like all right now you just mean silly the metric that we're all sort of stabbing at but we don't have a word for is purchasing power parity, is that the dollar today does not stretch as much as it did before. Right. But my argument when Big T was making that point is if the dollar, it has to be worth a dollar, then that hasn't been true. Well, it's not that it does as much as it did before. It's that it doesn't

relative to what it has. The dollar has been, there is inflation all the time. A dollar now is not worth what it was in 1920. Everyone obviously understands that. But we are now. accelerating inflation at a rate that is higher than much higher than what it usually is and has been over the course of the last 30 years. Sure. And my argument was I don't think it's permanent, which you seem to, which is where we seem to branch off. Okay. I get what you're saying. I don't know that I necessarily. Even what you just cited said by 20, 23, which I think is a little longer than even I anticipate, but they say by 2023 that what you just cited is going to bounce back the other way. So even the experts don't view this as a long term problem.

I would say 6% inflation for three years is very, very bad. That's not even three years. That's two, which sure isn't great either. But like, I don't, I don't know. I view it much more optimistically, which is a weird way to phrase it. But I guess I don't see this is when I hear stuff like this, when I hear about the fucking crime rate in San Francisco and then you dig a little into it, it's not as sinister as it's made out to be. It sounds like a lot of fear mongering on behalf of the media. more than anything.

I didn't like that milk. Do you remember the milk story that went viral? Well, two months ago, like the people who were buying like 20 gallons a week or some outlandish like that. Yeah. They were saying, I think like $1,000 a week on milk. Like the slightest bit of like looking through. Well, that's just stupid.

Not happening. No, I don't understand that. But that's who's like, that's the fearmongering. That's when I can't take a lot of it seriously. When I start seeing stuff that's so outrageous, it's like, all right, well, if you can't even just make like a point without going to some. crazy extreme that doesn't apply to anyone. I'm not saying you did that, but I'm saying that side that's been out there in people's faces is fear that it truly isn't all that logical

to me. I have a genuine question. How, I think this is for you too, how would the economy bounce back from COVID without inflation? Like, what do you do? I literally don't know, like what do you do to bounce back from something by without I mean just just people going out and doing what they did before would help the economy but that we're still not we wouldn't bring it back to where it was it would only go back to where it was like don't you need to don't like I'm thinking is like don't you need to make up for lost time kind of thing there is the impact of the labor supply being a lot smaller due to there are not as many people incentive to go work because of stimulus

bills, which I'm not against or anything, but you do see signs everywhere. But even that's not true. That's not true. I have pictures on my phone. No, I'm not denying the pictures. That might be a reasoning behind the pictures is flawed. So people aren't just sitting home taking loans.

People, you see it everywhere. There are workforce stoppages everywhere because people took a year and were like, hey, why is Tony the Tiger only giving me $3.35 an hour? Why I was talking to a restaurant, and this is anecdotal, as Arian always likes to point out, which I appreciate. I was talking to a bar manager the other day, and he was saying he doesn't pay people three dollars an hour, which most waitresses and waiters used to get because people will not work for that anymore. It's not because the government's giving the money is because people had a year to sit back and go, oh, yeah, I'm not working for like a crazy minimum wage anymore. It's a minor rolling into a major workforce revolution going on right now. It's a good thing.

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everyone's saying together is because of that um that phenomenon you're describing there aren't as many people who are willing to work the docks who are willing to work and meat processing plants because of all these work stoppages that have then impacted a lot of prices of goods i think the reasons behind it people may not agree on but that phenomenon you know all the all the cargo ships that are waiting to be unloaded at the ports that's crazy yeah i mean that's what you agree that's where that's where when i look at the people who aren't working i don't fault them right but that is then having impacts on the supply chain which is causing this pp purchase price parity to be impacted and then you see the reasoning behind why

everyone's upset about pricing and you know chicken fingers are going extinct i swear to god i swear to god i don't know what if i can i i don't think i can verbalize what i want to say if the tenders go Big T goes You won't hear from me again Wait, wait, if the chicken tendered If we truly run out of chicken tenders In this country, I'm out I'm Dunskees.

So your Dunskey's like, what are you threat? I don't know, I don't know if I can say Are you gonna I don't think I can't You're not gonna get banned I think you guys can discern From from my tone what I'm saying You're gonna take don't

As you say, say what you're saying I will go the way of the tenders If the tenders Are you are you? this is actually concerning big tea are you a threat to yourself or others myself not okay okay that's fine not other now what if you found out that much like diamonds they they were uh exaggerating how like they were hoarding the i will lead the revolution well no it's actually having lead the this is actually pretty fucked up they're actually culling they're killing some chickens because

they have all these chickens and none of them can be taken to slaughter because the meat processing plants uh aren't operating so the chicken chicken tenders are there the chicken are there, but it's just... Figure it out. They can't process them. It was bad enough when Chick-fil-A ran out of sauce. Well, I mean, well, for example, I think... And now we're talking just no...

They ran out of the sauce, but then, like, two weeks later, it was on shelves and Target and larger bottles that you could buy. So it was like, well, where did you run out? Like, I'm confused, Chick-fil-A. Yeah. Well, the thigh, I mean, wingstop becomes thigh-stop because of this problem. And then you have NBC telling the American people that they can't have a turkey. to Thanksgiving that it's better off to not have a turkey if the financial burden of

you remember that it is better to not have a turkey and then you know what that wasn't their reasoning no yeah it should be because turkey sucks okay i have i have a serious question would you rather go if if this happens and chicken tenders go would you rather go by the wayside of the tenders or would you rather go to a um meat alternative option no no no you'll never hear for me again if the What if what if what if the only place that served chicken tenders were like Saudi Arabia would we see in Saudi Arabia this it'd be tough. It'd be a tough choice to make. I'm talking about I'm talking about the price is real low too like I'm talking about cheap chicken

tenders. It would be a tough choice to make. LeBron. You're buttering him up right now. He's thinking about it. Jeremy. I hope I don't have to answer that question. He's like, to sell me on Saudi Arabia.

What's the real? Anus can't there's going to be tweeting at you. instead of corrupt communist CCP money. I hope it doesn't come to that. The Saudis are keeping big teeth happy with the tendies. I hope it does not come. Buying his silence. But, you know, every man has his price.

So you wouldn't buy the, like I just bought them yesterday in my grocery thing, the nugs? Absolutely not, no. I think they're good. Guys, I think they're good. No. What about strips? Could you handle strips?

Could you? Yes. No, she's saying, I'm saying meat alternative. She's saying made out of like hummus. I'm saying just a different cut Yeah You'll deal with strips Yeah that that's what that's the same thing

What about a thigh? Yeah What about just fried Fried chicken without a bone What about what your most word? Would you go Would you go dark meat? Maybe I don't know

If the fried chicken If the fried chicken is exterminated So is Big T That's what we're getting at Our excuse and you got to stand on something So getting back to the original question, what is China gained out of COVID, out of COVID, they have a large population

of the United States that might go the way of Big Tee if chicken tendees go down. This was their plan the whole time. They were coming for the tenders. Well, yeah, COVID was a look over here. You know, it's actually very interesting. Our exports to China, like everyone talks about how there's so many imported goods from China to the United States. We export a lot. of goods to China that are mainly like largely just agricultural like for example chick one of our biggest exports is chicken feet to China yeah and pork U.S. agriculture hugely benefits chicken feed is fucking trash from trans-Pacific partnership my god I went to dim sum when my girl

dog um shit I had never even heard of dim sum which is fire if y'all ain't ever had it like a little Chinese cuisine where they come and in carts and they bring you. whatever tried chicken feet it's shit it is horrible it is one of the worst things I've ever ate it's very bad it's a delicacy let me look at some so's my stomach me that mess shit was the worst Aaron I did want to also mention that like I didn't really get to say much on that but I did want to say that like good I think good supply and demand is important when it comes to economy and I think we lost a lot of that when we went into lockdown got people couldn't get cars. We lost about a third of small businesses. So that's kind of why I jumped on the question

is like they did do a really good job. But I did see Coley's point in certain ways. But it did really hurt our economy in terms of like. Sure. I should have thought more about small businesses and that was a great point. Right. I did get fucking demolished. I was more of referencing the like the inflation and get the small businesses out of here. Absolutely. But that's that's more of a critique of like government subsidies being given out, right? They'll always help bigger corporations rather than aiding small businesses, which I think that's a bipartisan thing. Honestly, I don't think that's that debatable. Yeah, but the shutdown in general didn't allow people to support small businesses in the way they did originally. So I did think that China did a good job in

that aspect of hurting our economy in that way. Hold on. China didn't. make this virus forward to shut down the economy, bro. No, I know, I know. But that's what the question was. Yeah. It could be argued that if China was going to use it strategically, it would be to maintain and up authoritarian powers on their own people, which is, you know, we talked about this in China episode about how there may have been

much larger social unrest in China than we know about. We just saw what was going on in Hong Kong. And the virus allowed them much more power to, you know keep a hold of their people yeah the original thing was if it was possible if it was possible for them to use a substance like coronavirus as warfare they definitely could because it showed in the country that it did hurt us i mean the thing is with the way our government works but it hurt them too though right yeah absolutely and and the whole point of warfare is to attack your enemies not yourself but it hurt their people

which is different than the CCP. And even the people they were back long before anywhere else was. Yeah, right. Because it started there. They got a jump on it. And they listen more than we do. We think it's some government conspiracy

to take away your freedoms. And they actually listen to government. Well, they were forced to. They don't have much of a choice. They were kind of locked up. It's not like they're attentively. But still,

I mean, it is more socially acceptable over there to wear masks pre- that part's true. That is just, and they view it as a common courtesy because if I have a cold, it actually does help, masks help. Well, they wear masks because the air is horrible.

That's not the only reason why, man. They also wear masks because that is a part of it. But another reason is it's socially acceptable because if I, if I'm feeling ill, it's common courtesy to not try to spread those aerosols around. And masks help prevent that. That's a part of it. It's a big part of that. That's a culture over there.

Here, they think we, a lot of people think you're restricting freedom and like all this of the bullshit. It has nothing to do with that. Like, I'm gonna, I'll continue to wear masks and in crowded areas for the rest of my life. I don't, it has nothing to do with COVID anymore because I was just uneducated on how, like, I haven't, I haven't gotten sick in a long time, though, like, or the periods of which I've been sick have just been during this, during the start of the pandemic to now. I just don't get sick that much. It makes sense. I'm walking around with a mask. Flew season was down. All of it makes sense. The data is very clear but for some reason in america like we're restricting freedoms and then we watch the homie's

facebook post and think that that's the truth there is a there is a factor that our government was not would never be able to take any of the actions that china did with their people and they they could see that that was an advantage in itself what you know what i'm saying so like china China knew that if there was such a pandemic that they would have a much easier way of responding because they have so much more control over their people. Y'all really pedaling this bullshit, huh? I'm not peddling it.

This is pedaling. He's saying what you're saying. I'm saying what you're saying. No, he's not saying what I'm saying. He's saying if China was to do something, they could regulate it better. Yeah. I'm saying they didn't do anything.

This is stupid. okay but in terms of them being able to control their population better than you can't hear just because of the constitution y'all agree they used our freedom against us no we use we use our freedom against ourselves you're thinking about the wrong way like this that's the dumb it's stupid we're stupid here this is dumb this is a dumb place we're not smart people here

it's very dumb we literally have have conversations about, like, vaccinations. Like, this is a fucking, this is a stupid place to be. It's dumb. And under the guise of freedom. Like, we argue with scientists all the time. We argue with people who give their lives to this shit. Like, this is dumb.

But there's people who don't think climate change is a real thing. It's just dumb. It's a dumb place to be. Do you think this is the only country where that happens? I don't care. I'm talking about this place. This is a dumb place to be. It's where I live.

I'm very aware of where I live. Hmm. There were roughly speaking on Aryan's mass point, roughly 2,000 cases of the flu last year compared to 38 million. Yeah, do you all believe that? This is from the CDC. I did look up multiple sources. What?

What the... No, but I'm being serious. I'm being sick. I'm being saying, hang on, hang on, hang on. Do you actually, do you believe that? I would be more inclined to believe the two about, like 38 million seems like a lot. I don't know how they're getting that much information. I'm more inclined to believe the 2000 than the 38 million.

My question there is, if the mass stopped the flu, why didn't they stop COVID? It's not because it's not a cure. Okay, dog, listen, when people put out, when the CDC puts out data points, it is not an absolute number. It's a roundabout guess. It's just like poll numbers. It's not just like it's similar to poll number, right? Where it's like we have a roundabout understanding of what is going on.

And it gives you a guideline to go off of, right? That's the same thing with the CDC data and all the data because we can't go around and survey everybody who's ever. had the flu in the United States of America. It's impossible. But they give you a rough estimation. Right. And that's how they calculate those numbers. But that's not what I was saying. I'm saying the rationale there is that nobody got the flu because everybody was wearing a mask and yet COVID still spread rapid. No, that is, I mean,

yes, yes. No, the rationale is the rationale is a significantly lower percentage of people got the flu because of mask wearing. And if everybody wore masks, a significantly lower amount of people would get COVID. If some, and if people got, um, uh, vaccinated, a more significantly amount of people would get COVID. COVID is, is way more, uh, contagious than the flu. We know that. And so, and so, and that's why, that's why it takes vaccinations. It takes masks. It takes social distancing. They, they put out all of these ramifications so that people are more, are more aware and, and, and, and, in an attempt to spread it less. It's the probability of spreading it. Nobody, no scientist ever says vaccinations are cures, masks are cures, social distances cures. What you do is you lower the

probability of spread implementing all of these things. Yeah, and there were, I believe, I need to double check it, but I do believe last year had records for flu vaccination. So it's not just the mask. It was the combination of the two social distancing, of course. And to your point, we have seen the coronavirus, I don't want to say cured, but we have seen people exterminate it in the sense of the NBA bubble. There was no coronavirus in the NBA bubble. There just wasn't. Like, we have seen, I don't know why people ignore it.

Like, we have seen a way to get it out of a, not a group, but like an area. We have found a way to exterminate it. And it was only social distance and mask. Like, that was all the NBA did. Right. That would be a fire case study just, or just like a think piece, right? To really understand the NBA's impact on the coronavirus on a global scale. If it wasn't for the NBA and Rudy,

go bear the mass man i mean the shutdowns would not probably have happened in the in the swift way it did in america like the the the bubble is a case study about how to be proactive about like you make a very good point actually because the NBA is very um i think they're very forward with social issues but like they i think they did a really good job on on on the entire uh pandemic they also donated because i remember i wrote about it they donated i believe if it wasn't a hundred million, like hundreds of millions of dollars to Harvard to come up with a lot that led to was a Moderna? One of them.

Like they put a lot of money into coming up with one of the vaccines. So yeah, the NBA was on their shit with this. And dollars. People just ignore the bubble. Like I don't understand. Like the bubble worked. Like there was no outbreak. There was no one person got it spread.

Like there was just no. And that was hundreds of people. Like I know it's not a country. but we did see it just get eliminated for how long were they in there, five months, four months? I was insane and it just gets completely glossed over. Sidebar, do you think, do you think LeBron's last title has an asterisk by it? Of course I do.

I don't think so. They play an eight, well, they can hang it right next to those Minnesota YMCA banners that they claim too. Because the Lakers have always been okay claiming fraudulent banners. So this is. Watching, watching the playoffs in every sport this year with fans it every title that was won without fans does not count how do you feel about the MLB one the Dodgers one it counts a little bit more but still no because I'm glad we

didn't win that one now what about boxing matches with no fans I don't care about boxing I don't know I think boxing is equally as stupid with them without fans um no what I was trying to say is there's this study it's a martial art yeah it just doesn't do anything for me yeah I don't think that's I don't think he cares about martial arts. Yeah, no. So you don't care about the history of hand-to-hand cop human-hand-hand-honey? I need, I need somebody doing something with a ball or a puck. That's what I need.

You've got to be trying to put it into some sort of net or like get to some sort of in-zone. You've got to be trying to get somewhere. I got you. Over the wall. Yeah. Just to wrap up what we're talking about before, the point I was trying to make is that there is this story where they talk about, you know, how freedom can be used. against a society and for example there was they create I'm probably going to butcher the story but

there was a town in Vermont that was set up and they basically were totally founded on libertarianism you know everyone can do what they want you know the idea of pure libertarianism but then there was a bear problem and a bunch of bears were run through everywhere some people were feeding the bears some people were trying to shoot the bears and what they realized that without any Instructed, you know, one face and one policy to deal with the bears, they were unable to have any impact on the bear problem unless they came together and not just everyone doing what they wanted to do. So that's what I'm saying is an advantage or disadvantage when you have to deal with a national problem like coronavirus. Is that if you have a policy where everyone wants to do what they want to do, it can actually end up being, you know, the bears are going to the trash. Some people are shooting them. Some people are feeding them and cause discourse where nothing actually ever gets done.

I agree a thousand percent. To me, it's the fallacy in libertarian ideology is I think that collectivist thought or collective policies are the tax you pay for living in a society. And so our, you know, I know libertarians hate hearing about roads, but it's the same concept. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and we're never going to get it right because we don't agree on anything, but it's just geared towards diplomacy. Like, I agree I live in the society. I'm very aware, and a lot of people don't agree with me, but I give that in order to live here. I give so not everything is exactly how I want in order to live in this society in a diplomatic way. You know is actually one of the most collectivist continents in the world?

Tell me, Billy. Antarctica. Say word. There's no. Think about it. No, this was actually one of the funniest fun facts. I was going to try to bring up. There's nowhere to buy anything.

There's no stores. There's no anything. Whenever you go to Antarctica, you're staying. It's a very collectivist atmosphere because everything's paid for by, the government and the whole sort of thing. So just that would be a nice little cherry on top of the anti- little little communist regime in Antarctica over there. Because they can't, money is useless there.

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the goal of antarctica via treaty right is to just we have a pure scientific explorative experience there and it's collectivized from like different countries and so nobody's trying to conquer Antarctica everybody's just trying to understand it which is how we should live our lives really but they haven't figured that one out yet there's is there legal ramifications if someone tried to create a government for Antarctica yeah it's a violation of the Antarctic Treaty what's what's all in the Antarctic Treaty was something was the first armistice signed during the Cold War between the Russians in the United States that's crazy that that was like their first priority well it was just like something they

could both agree on yeah trying to find common ground Trying to start out nice. Yeah. Well, I think, I think everybody realized it was like, you know, neutral ground because you can't inhabit it. So it's like, let's just. Then let's not have one person own it. Yeah, let's agree that this is like neutral ground.

Like, which is a beautiful, one of the more beautiful, uh, uh, conglomerative efforts that humans have ever done in my opinion. Right. Because I feel like at some point, that's why I asked, like, unless there was something barring against it, someone would have just taken it over. It was the first arms control agreement established during the Cold War, settling aside the continent as a scientific preserve,

establishing freedom of scientific investigation and banning military activity. For the purpose of the treaty system, Antarctica is defined as all the land and ice shelves south of the 60 degree parallel. Right, because there's no indigenous people that you're stealing that land from, if you were to. Penguins. right but there's no penguins are penguins are people too

there's no there's no Antarctic people or whatever they would be called so people eat penguin meat someone's definitely eating penguin I mean someone I think some of the crimes they talked about where they abused wildlife where people just eating like if you're out there and you're bored you're like let's

cook up a penguin what you think tastes better penguin or turkey I penguin you'd gamble on the penguin no I think turkey sucks dog I'm not good so you know

duck's greasy yeah it like kind of duck is good duck is good duck is better than duck is better than duck is better than

do you think about that blubbery penguin but I don't know blubber and fat it's grease fat is good

yeah so penguin actually could taste really good let's see if anyone has any answers on this what does penguin

taste do you think they're well I guess they also eat a lot of whale they ate a lot of whale I'm not for that I think whales are smart or shit

I don't think you should kill animals that are smart Like dogs fuck them cats fuck them Oh dude Dogs are smart Fuck you Dogs are not smart Dogs are dumb shit

Dogs are really smart My dogs are not smart You think a dog is smart You think a dog is smart than you're dumb I can shake hands with the dog Dumb dogs That wasn't the best argument You can

Dogs do what they're told to do If you feed them That's just survival. This is smart. I can still like him. What do penguins taste like? Are you on the Grub Street article? PolarChristian.com.

So basically Captain Cook ate penguins and basically he said they tasted like a piece of beef odiferous codfish and canvas bag duck roasted together in a pot with blood and cod liver oil

for sauce. Huh. That's a lot of different flavors So modern So people They ran out of food once At a certain research facility And they had to eat some penguins

And they said they tasted like oily chicken And with it Penguin That sounds like a penguin would be good It's a bird, right? It's like a bird Are penguins birds? Oh, not birds Are they birds?

Yeah, they're birds They have wings. They just can't fly. Aquatic birds So they're very I mean that's a murder thing I bet penguins taste freaking good. Well, I guess if they have a good, like, if they're eating, like, fish and all.

I would much rather have a, they have much out of a penguin in a turkey. I don't even know a penguin, too. Turkey's trash. I would like to see both deep fried and see what the results are. I have a feeling that, oh, gee turkey. Like turkey, you see the side of the road, not like this, not these, not genetically modified, but selectively bred turkeys for more meat and more breast meat. I like what you did there. I like what you did there.

Yeah. But I feel like they might taste, like the old, like wild turkeys, I think probably tasted better than. So, so interesting enough. So my stepdad is a, like I say, he's a PhD geneticist and he actually bred one of the, did I tell you all this already. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, so he bred one of the first lines of Tyson chickens.

Oh, wow. And so like he's like, he's like responsible for the way chickens are bred in America right now. He's a fucking. That's awesome. Yeah, he's dope. Well, I think he probably have a huge sort of take on why turkeys might not taste as good. He would be actually the guy to figure out, you know, how do we make turkey taste better? Like, it needs a little more grease to it, like, not just, like, dry meat.

He would know how he, like, he always talks about how, like, he selective, how you selectively breed the chickens, like, and how you wean out the whatever. like is that was his bag i mean yeah because rotissory rotissory chicken tastes amazing like chicken like is a little greasier than turkey i'd say tastes a lot better like i bet a tyson chicken tastes like really good i wouldn't even say greasy because i don't consider chicken greasy i would think it's just i think the way that we cook chicken versus the way we cook turkey it's like moisture i don't i don't think i mean fried chicken yeah but i don't think rotissory chicken is i would is there's something it's a rotissory turkey i feel like there has to be I have no idea

Let's check that out Yeah, rotisserie turkey I think that's the best way to do it No, I think we just Stop killing Stop killing turkeys They're not good To start killing

I'd rather than Ping that anything Yeah, let's substitute Or just brisket in general Like I say, if you substitute Briscuit for turkey for Thanksgiving Like I'm a happy dude Briscuit is

a huge effort to make. Oh, yeah. That's why it tastes better. So much involved. That's like turkey is not even like the easiest to make. Even like a bad turkey still took time and effort. Right. That's why it's, I mean, throwing in the oven, three, four hours, five hours, whatever.

I think that's, I think, like, like, Biscuit, you got to care about what you're doing. You got to prepare it. You got to smoke it. You got it. You know what I'm saying? There's so much more. It's more of a process. Definitely more.

saying like a turkey is not like steak you can just season a little bit toss it on and out like there's more to making a turkey and it's still not it's not yeah no i'm with you maybe but the thing is maybe if brisket becomes the main food choice then we just get a lot more bad brisket and then people think brisket is trash you know what i'm saying no because the only people who attempt to make brisket are people who know how to do brisket like i would never attempt to cook a brisket i have no idea how exactly do it right i know how i just don't think i could execute like i've watched I watched, remember we was talking about, like, everybody's little quirks that they just went down on the rabbit hole. Yeah.

I got obsessed with watching brisket cooking videos. Like, so I know what to do. I just don't think I can execute. Like, it's not easy, though. Because it's more about understanding how to stoke and maintain a fire. Like, it's more about that than it is actually cooking a brisket. And, like, that's a science in itself, which is, and depending on, like, what kind of would you use, like, all that shit matters. So it's like, it's a science, actually.

That's why. Yeah. Speaking of which, there's this, there's an interesting little factoid that. Um, the wood, I'm a butcher, but like the wood that, that is used actually molecularly interacts with the meat and, oh, yeah, it's, it's wild. Um, the way that they explained it. I'm, like I said, I'm not doing it any justice, but so back in the early days when it was first starting like cook meat, like there's no way they would have known that, but the fact that that actually changes the, the, I don't know if it changes the composition, but,

but it definitely enhances the flavor in a very, like, they explain it in a very good way. I'll come back to that, but it's really, it's looking to that. That's a really dope thing. Quick update on the, which is Lane Maxwell trial.

Federal agents and NYPD officers raided the home in July of 2019 on the sex trafficking arrest of Epstein, and they said they found hundreds of images of nude underage girls stashed inside a safe. Oh, so it's legit. Yep. it's here it's here that place that they actually um raided the townhouse is a regular townhouse but had 40 rooms bedrooms 40 bedrooms like like bunkers type like hotel type stuff which is very weird like the townhouse in new york yeah holy shit and it had a big place with this is in a

vanity fair article i think and uh in he had one control room with a camera in all those rooms like they do it like a casino yeah crazy yeah oh that's this is gonna be wide open though i you know what i am excited about this doctor let's get these things all about the streets i'm with this facts i think it's i i guess i'm talking myself out of my own point but i think it's crazy that there can be reporters in reporting on it live in real time but they can have cameras but i guess we talked about this last week and it's because the camera is fuck with everything. But it's not like we don't know

what's going on at all. Yeah. I think it just influences the, it just influences too many people inside of the courtroom. Right, right. Yeah. It's probably, I think this is the best way to do a trial. If you're a juror, I mean, no juror would want to be on it if there was was, right. I mean, it's not like a, because

of the nature of the trial thing. It's just a federal court thing. Right. Also, how do they pick a jury in a trial like this when it's like everyone has heard of it? It's hard. sourcing that's the case in a lot of high profile trials interview biases there's I mean there's no way to like I feel like they genuinely have to have people like Billy me big teeth age for a lot of it because we weren't alive for the 90s for when Epstein was

everywhere yeah or whatever nah like the thing is they also would be like have you heard about the case right and then I've been my age is like yeah yeah I've been internet like I don't think that I don't think that would be a I would highly doubt that have you heard about the case would be a prerequisite for you being on this this kind of case like I think you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who hasn't heard about the Epstein case right Billy would be Billy if Billy was picked to be a juror he'd be like sorry I'm an anthropologist I can't be on any case that's Billy's like cop out for jury duty for the night oh by the way I'm actually on another point it is huge that the kid in Michigan was tried with terrorism because then they can investigate all his online presence and see if there's because I literally think there's like What kid Michigan?

What are you talking about? The shooter from the Oxford. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not hip. I was kind of out of dilute. Yeah, basically there was a school shooting in Michigan last week. And they can investigate him for terrorism

and which means all the online chat rooms that he may have been participating in that may have radicalized him. Okay, take a guess. about what he's visiting. Why can't they investigate that anyway? Because you need like a terrorist charge. How do you take, because then it falls under the Patriot and they can like go after all

of his stuff. How did they charge him with that though? Because it, I mean, terrorists like just because he shot up. What terrorism is defined from my understanding, terrorism is defined as like a politically driven motive, right? Yeah. Okay.

This guy has generally like for the textbook definition of it, but I think if we're charging somebody with it, you don't have to, that's not like a prerequisite thing. for it. Yeah, I don't know about the charge, but I, I knew, in order to be labeled a terrorist. Yes. The textbook definition of terrorism is like violence for a political motive. Yeah.

And his parents are being charged. Yeah. The whole situation is sketchy. I'm all, I'm crazy. I'm weird. The parents being charged. Were they implicit? Like, did they know?

Well, it was the dad. The dad bought the gun for the son and the son's 15. And so he couldn't have access to a firearm. The mom texted him, don't do it or something? So they, the way I understand it. I didn't know about that. Yeah, so they got called down to the school. I think that morning.

Yeah, that morning for, for behavioral issues. Yeah, he was acting bad and they called them down. And then like the parents left the school and the mom texted him, don't do it or something. And then he killed four people. Jesus Christ. They, well, they didn't think he had a gun on him at the time. so they sent him back to class because the school officials

were like we shouldn't send this kid home because if he goes home he might come back with like weapons so it's better just to put him in class and have him home alone it's a whole situation parents were already at the school they should have just had them take them like I don't

I don't know more's coming out but well for sure he couldn't I mean he can't drive he's 15 yeah I don't know It's, that's insane. I'm glad they're trying him as an adult, though. Yeah. Crazy.

Gee, living a crazy world. Fuck that dude. You're talking about how the Epstein's got all their money, too. There was also something that said that the, um, they had a JP Morgan executive, Patrick McHugh on the, uh, trial. And there was a transaction on her account on October 19, 1999 that showed 18.3 million wired into her account. into her Bear Stearns account. From where? I think it came from Jeffrey.

So he was like wiring money back and forth. There were multiple counts of it. I see there's also an additional $5 million that was funneled to Maxwell in 2002 from Epstein. So it seemed like maybe he was funneling her money as well. I don't know if it was for what she was doing or there's so much involved. We have to do a full episode on this. Did we find out what her actual charge was? yeah it was all connected so i said it earlier there was four abusers or four victims of

the abuse that out uh are charging her and the they're like um basically dealing with minors and intent for sexual acts of a minor and traveling with a minor all minor stuff yeah it's basically being an accomplice to geoffrey fc when you when you boil it down but it's six it's six charges related to child sex acts that's crazy that shit just blows my mind

how you just want to can you you can't get emasculate children you can't get a death penalty because you didn't kill anyone nah I don't believe in death penalty anyway that shit don't

neither do I but I was just wondering also is the death penalty a thing in New York do you do capital punishment not New York oh that's why I was wondering oh because you're getting charged Anywhere, definitely.

You see what? Anywhere, definitely. New York, I don't think so. Right, that's what I was asking. Well, because her trial's here. That's so sad. Oh, she got formally charged in New York. Her, her, um, she's good, I mean, her, she's right down the street.

Not that's not right down the street, but her courtroom is here or her trial's here. I don't know what that means. Yeah, but it's a federal trial. Right. Ah, okay. Federal crime. I also think that's crazy. that one of the like that's just happening in the same place we are yeah

what i think i'm trying to do like but then there was also like the coroner uh resigned the first day of the trial the new york state the new york city corner who was supposed to look at obscene body apparently i did see that i did see that resigned the first day of the did you also see that jack dorsey also resigned the same day that it started there were several big CEOs who resigned the day it started really yeah like there was I think four or eight major CEO or CFOs of large corporations that stepped

down the first day of her trial. Yeah, it's getting weird. That's shit. Crazy, though. It's a tough day to do it. That way to day. Like, do it a day early. Like, I don't do it the same day.

They probably all got notified if they were involved in evidence, right? Oh, they know. Also, Alec Baldwin just delete to this Twitter account. No, shit. Yeah. I thought he did that earlier.

Alec Baldwin, nope. Today? He just did it, yeah, today. I thought he deleted it like two days. Nope, they just said that he did it today. This shit's going to be like one of the trials of the century. Well, the thing is, who knows how much will be stifled? Because she's also wanting to release the name of all the witnesses who are coming forward.

She wants to? Jelaine, yeah. To get people off her back and be like, well, I got the one. Right? She wants to release the name of the witnesses of... We're speaking against her. Yeah. Like the world...

How should do that? Oh. So that they... So that people know who's... That they can also... They can also be charged for it. I was saying, I know she... Oh, yeah.

Well, fuck it. I'm with it. That's fucked up, man. We got to do this episode. Yeah. This is tough because, like, it's a lot of speculation right now. But we can do... We can do the Epstein stuff.

Yeah. And then I'm sure we'll know so much more by next week, too. All right. We'll kick it around. We'll kick it around in the group, man. Anybody got anything else on Antarctica? Let's check this out. Oh, there's a subglacial blood red lake that's caused by oxidation.

It's pretty cool. That is cool, Billy. That people saw in like the 70s and were like, it's a river of blood in Antarctica Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah, it's called Blood Falls is an outflow of iron oxide tainted plume of salt water flowing from the tongue of Taylor Glacier

into the ice-covered surface of West Lake Boney and the Taylor Valley of the McMurdu Dry valleys in Victoria land. Crazy. What else is there? Nazis? Do you guys want to hear more?

Yeah, people think that the Nazis went to Antarctica. They did explore it, but there's no Nazi bunker there that Hitler went to after the war. Here's some more crime. Some dude got poisoned to Antarctica in May of 2000, and they don't know if he'd been poisoned by someone there or just was secondhand poisoned. So he died of menthanol poisoning. the poisoning occurred remains a mystery then there was a bunch of fights all these Russian dudes are getting into fights

at these research facilities that's like the biggest crime in Antarctica is Russian researchers beating each other up for various small skirmishes but yeah yeah that's all I got Billy we appreciate your fact riddled episode man

I do I do appreciate the spreadsheets you do and you're right that we do need to implement facts a little bit more. So I appreciate that, man. It remains to be seen if POT is alive or not. So we hope to have more information on that. Billy, do you have any thing to say about his whereabouts? He may be a juror on a high.

He may be gone for the next couple weeks. A high profile trial. can you imagine it's crazy that they have just random New Yorkers on this jury right they could have the Bing Bang guy on the jury for this case I mean technically it's like in the same jurisdiction

wouldn't it be? Yeah crazy I think that should this is a hot take I think I think jurors should be a government position like a profession you go to school and you study evidence and you study body language you can ask for a bench trial

and then you're getting just a judge you you wave your right to a jury and the judge decides yeah no I'm cool off of that I was talking about I was talking about a jury I know I know but I'm saying you get you can get something

similar to that because the sentencing has been biased right I don't I don't trust just a like my But I wouldn't trust my life in a judge's hands. See, I think if it was a crime that I didn't do, I would want a bench trial.

If it was a crime that I did do, I would want a jury trial. That's interesting. What I'm saying is, yeah, you, for sure. What I'm saying is a jury trial, right, with somebody who, like, let's say, let's live in my utopia for a second. There's, there's juries that go to a, you got to go through like a real certification class. And there's, there's time. And it's a paid position, right? So you go, you go to work every day for jury trials.

And you, you understand court terminology. You understand evidence. You understand, you know what I say? So you see cases, I think over time, you would have a more accurate sentencing structure than, not sentencing rate, then, not acquittal, what am I thinking? Sentencing? I think it would be sentencing. You have, it would be more accurate.

guilty versus non-guilty than you have now of people who are just regular average citizens hearing the shit out when you have an expertise in the field, right, which you would basically be becoming. I think over time it would be more accurate, um, rather than having Randos. I can't wait to get called on a jury duty. Me too. I've been waiting for years. Don't tell them that because they will send you straight home. Holl at me. Hey, government. Howl at me. I'm trying to, I want to be on a jury cake, dog. Preferably a high profile. That's exactly the people they don't want doing it.

Fuck them. I'm one of the best. I am non-biased when it comes to jury shit. Not even. Not even. Yeah. I just want to see what it's like not even to, I don't want to like ruin someone's life or, you know, sentence someone to life in prison.

I just want to see. I've never been in a courtroom. I kind of want to just see what it's like. I actually have a crazy story. Oh. So the first time I, selected for jury duty you've been selected more than once yeah but i pushed it off but then i finally actually had to go down it was on spring break of 2019 because you go back they time it so

it's on your break nowadays for college kids it was the first day of the harvey winstein trial when they're selecting juries for him i don't know i don't know if that's when they were selecting the juries i got to check if it was that day but i'll show you guys my jury slip like if i own and it was at the same court because it was why i still had a new york city so you thought you guys you think you got screen for that yeah i think i could have gotten i don't know exactly we can look up the specifics but it's pretty it's pretty wild i have snapchats to prove it of course you'd put it on snapchat you fucking it's like my snapchat would they call you a zoomer are you a zoomer yeah or who knows what was here let me find out the specifics

But it was kind of wild, and I was like, but also I was told, like, try not to get on the jury because I then wouldn't be able to go to school if it was that super long trial, but weird. Who cares you miss a month of school to be on the jury for Harvey Weinstein? Yeah, but then, like, I wouldn't graduate on time. Oh, God. That would have a story to your kids. That would have been crazy.

If Philly football showed up, the Harvey Weinstein jury. It was actually, I may have gotten the date wrong. I think it was actually winter break, not spring break. Motherfucker, Billy. The fall of 2019. Let me find the exact date. I just remember, I pushed it off. I believe it.

Not that pivotal in the story. Did anybody have anything else, man? Should we, um, since we don't have an agreed upon structure for snacker dosing, push, uh, voicemails to Wednesday? Yes. Yeah, we can do that. We're already at 248. Yeah, that sounds like a viable. And then PFT should be there, right, Billy?

Yeah. We don't know. We don't know. We don't. Yeah. Hopefully, we're not found. Yeah. Yeah, y'all, if everybody listen out there, man.

Y'all, you send your prayers. Send your prayers to whatever God you're praying to that PFT's okay because Billy's, Billy came ready today. So, all right, man. If everybody has anything else, man. wrap it up. Bet, well, thank you for our ability. You want to take us out, man?

Since you took PFT out. Thanks for everybody listening to macro dosing. Do not worry about PFT's whereabouts. You might have wanted to deny that. He's fine. Trust me. Thanks for listening. And love you guys.

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