Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Arian’s Ayahuasca Experience | Macrodosing - Oct 6, 2026

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

On today’s episode Arian is back with PFT and Big T to tell us all about his trip to Argentina and his Ayahuasca Experience. Plus, they get into the MLB Playoffs, a pneumonic plague discovered in Russia and much more. Enjoy! (00:01:56) NFL (00:11:24) Milwaukee Brewers (00:27:31) Pneumonic Plague (00:44:07) Banana Ball (00:55:06) Colorado’s Stolen Playbook (01:01:47) Arian’s Ayahuasca Experience BetterHelp Start therapy with BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off at https://BetterHelp.com/dose Pardon My Cheesesteak Order Pardon My Cheesesteak on https://pardonmycheesesteak.com and use code AWL for free deliveryYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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It's Tuesday, October 6th, 2026. We got Arian Foster back on the show from his whirlwind visit to Argentina. We got Big Tea. We got Mad Dog McKenzie. And today's episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've thought about trying therapy with our long-term partner BetterHelp, insurance options may now be available nationwide.

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with insurance. Don't have insurance or live outside the U.S. where you can still get 10% off your first month. Visit betterhelp.com slash dose. Explore your payment options. That's betterhelp.com slash dose. All right, we're back. It is macrodosing. It is Tuesday. It is October 6th. And I don't know if you watched any of the NFL games yesterday. But in my my prep for part of my take last night, I came across a stat that I wanted to share with you. Kenneth Walker, we talked about him a little bit last week, maybe the week before. He's now got his own shot at being the bell cow back in Kansas City, and he's lighting the world on fire. He's playing really, really well. He's got 537 rushing yards through the first four games of a season.

That 537 rushing yards is first in the last decade. So over the last 10 years, nobody has had more than 537 rushing yards in the first four games of a season. The second place guy is Derek Henry in 2021 with 510 yards in the first four games of a season. Do you know who the last player to have more than 537 rushing yards was in the first four games of an NFL season? I do not. It was you. It was Aryan Foster in 2010, 539 Russian yards.

So just in case people out there forget how good Aryan was. was. As good as Kenneth Walker is right now playing for the Chiefs, Aaron was better playing for the Texans back in 2010. Whoa. That's a pretty cool stat, man. Yep. Just want to give you some flowers sometimes. I appreciate that.

My oldest daughter, she was like too young to care about football when she was, when I was doing it. The day we pulled, she's like, I want to watch you. So we pulled up like a old, like a game, a couple games on YouTube. It was dope to, I ain't been a minute, but it was dope to see her, see me in that light. It was fun. Yeah. Were you at the game yesterday? I was.

They had this like, it's the 25th season of the Texans, and they, the Hannah McNair reached out to me and said, you know, come out. We haven't, we having a bunch of the guys out for like the 25th, like, celebration. So I pulled up to the game. It was dope. I see Kubiak. Kubiak was there. It was cool. all the guys, all the fellas.

Yeah, I saw Andre Johnson was there, right? Yeah, Drey Hopkins was there, yeah, Cush. It's a pretty good squad right there. We had a squad, though. I actually think that if you look at, you said, 25 years of Texans football, the amount of, like, all-time great players that the Texans have had is, like,

they've had a lot in such a concentrated amount of time. Like, you look at some other franchises. that don't have that resume and they've been around for way longer. That's a good point, actually. I would agree. I would agree with that. Yeah.

I think it's a testament to how Rick Smith, when he was a gym, for whatever people feel about him, I thought he had a great eye for talent. I really did. Like a lot of the dudes that, and we didn't keep a lot of our guys, too, like, thinking about like Jacoby Jones,

he left with Baltimore, went to Super Bowl, Connor Barwin, Glover Quinn, Brooks Reed, like these cats went on and had great careers with other teams, but the Texans drafted them. Yeah. Yeah, they've had some all-time greats.

That's a tough game yesterday, too. The defense, the defense doesn't seem like they're, they're not dominant like they were over the last couple years. Yeah, something's missing. I haven't sat down and broke down the film and watched them and seen why, but like you could tell there's what the difference is,

but you could tell something's off. I was sitting by Hannah McNair. And so it's me, Hop, Dre, Hannah, and Kyle McNair. And they have a great, beautiful suite. And I reach over the dress and I'm conflicting, man. I got C.D. Lamb on my fantasy team. And he goes, shit, I do too. It's like, I hope he has a horrible game.

I mean, he did not have a horrible game. He did not have a horrible guy. 17 catches, 180 yards. Yeah, that was, and it's not like, you know, the Cowboys are going to be a great team offensively. They've got so many weapons. But they're going to get their yards no matter who they're playing against, I think. But the thing that concerned me was that if you're the Texans and you're like a dominant defense,

like a top three defense in the league. And, you know, that's the strength of your team. That's what the team is built around. you should be good enough to take away some of that from an opponent's best threat, right? Like, I don't think that you'll find many top-tier defenses that will allow 17 catches to one wide receiver. Yeah, it was not a good show.

But there's still an outside chance. They go on a run. Yeah, 4 and 3, and then it came back in the had a real good team. Nobody's made it from 0 and 4, right? I don't know. I can't imagine. I don't think so. But O and three, they've done it twice.

Those are the only two. I think so, yeah. But I don't know about O and four. That seems like it's a pretty big hole to dig yourself out of. We've got something that I'm really looking forward to talking to Arian about more. He went down to Argentina and he had a little journey, a little vision quest down there. A vision quest. And that's a tease.

We're going to tease that. So that's going to come a little bit later. But, yeah. The other thing was, before we get into it, so I saw there was a post, was it the Barstool Stats account? I don't know who runs that. But the YouTube numbers for macrodosing,

we need to get those up. So people listen to the show on iTunes and on Spotify at a much higher clip than they watch it. And I'm not saying it's because. I know what you're talking about. I'm not beautiful. But I think what we should do, maybe is there a way that we can put,

you guys can tell me as the production part, can we put the YouTube up before the audio? Because I don't think, and it's just like through the course of doing the show, we haven't really shot in the face. Oh, really? Well, we haven't really pushed the YouTube on this show that much.

So we need to do a better job doing that. Yeah. What if we would, We do a bonus 10, a little 10 minutes that's only on YouTube. Yeah, like a little like almost Patreon-esque. I like that, bonus 10 on YouTube. I like that. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll put the bonus 10 on there. Maybe voicemails are only on YouTube. Yeah, that sounds good. That sounds good to me. We'll do a little bonus 10 on YouTube. So if you want the end of the show, you got to go to YouTube. Yeah. So who's going to come get you if we put it up on YouTube first?

No, I think, were you talking about people that listen? Yeah. they'll be like, where is it on the audio? We get a lot of... If it's 1201 and it's not up, like, we get a lot of push the button. Be hearing from them. That's funny.

I don't want you guys to get shot in the face. Well, if we're saying it, if we spell it out here. Well, I'm not saying that we necessarily even push it back that much on audio because people that have made it part of their pattern, I don't want to mess with them. Right. But could it come out earlier on YouTube?

Sure. For sure. So if you want to, could you schedule it for like 11 p.m.? We do 11 p.m. Central. But we could do like 10 p.m. Central. Yeah. So an hour early. An hour earlier than the audio?

We'll just see if that makes any difference whatsoever. Let's do it. Hour early. Because we don't want to piss on the, the people that listen on Spotify, iTunes, whatever the case may be. The Bobby Bones of the world. The Bobby Bones of the world, because that's how I listen to podcast as well. It's not part of my habit to listen to that.

that much stuff on YouTube. But for a lot of people it is. So we'll give them the option. You can get it first if you don't care which one you listen to it on. And then for everybody that listens to the audio version, that won't change. And it'll come out at the exact same time that it always has. You know, now that I think about it, I have shows that I exclusively will either watch on YouTube or listen to audio.

Yeah. Like, Pate to me is a YouTube show. I can't fathom listening to that as a podcast. Yeah. But then like. Clat. I've watched him on YouTube. YouTube is more like college football stuff.

I do a lot on YouTube and then pretty much everything else I listen to audio. Yeah. And there's some shows here at Barstall that are like way bigger on YouTube than they are on audio. There's some that I think don't even publish on. Those would just be like YouTube shows. Yeah, just the YouTube shows. But this, I think this was always audio first in terms of, I guess at least how we talked about it.

We used to not put the YouTube up for days after. Yeah, for days afterwards. So let's, yeah, we'll do a bonus 10. How does that sound? I like that. Bonus topic. I don't like doing the, I think voicemails should stay. For the people?

For the people. Yeah. I think we'll save one topic, bonus 10. Mm-hmm. And that will be YouTube exclusive. Fair enough? Okay. We can do that.

Sounds good. So, Aaron, before we get to your experience in Argentina, this is probably the second most important news of the day behind what happened on NFL Sunday. But there is a suspected outbreak of the pneumonic plague in Russia. I bet you were going to say Jackson, Jackson Cheerles, walk off. You're right. Okay, let's push back the pneumonic plague discussion. The Milwaukee Brewers are the luckiest team in baseball. They're also very good.

They're a very, very good team. Whoa, what? I mean, they've had some great breaks. You need luck to win a World Series. But listen, I know it sounds like we won 103 games, brother. I know. It sounds like I'm taking something away from them. I'm not trying to.

I'm saying they're a very good team. It's a compliment. You've got to make your own luck. Yeah, you make your own luck. Those wins would not have happened if they didn't put themselves in a position to win those games. But the ball off the roof. on Saturday night. Do we think that ball was going out?

I did a deep dive. Every ball this season that was hit at 105 miles an hour with a 49 degree launch angle was not a home run. But I saw that ball and it was a home run. I'm sure of it. So the one piece, I don't know if you can look this up, but I was talking to Hank about this yesterday. And you use the golf simulator here.

Every so often. The big number that you look at, You can have ball speed, you can have launch angle. But you have to know what the backspin rate is. The higher the backspin rate, that takes off, you know, 50 yards from a drive sometimes if you have a really nasty backspin rate on it. So unless we know what the backspin rate was on the ball that was hit, I don't think you can actually do a calculation. Because if it was a low backspin, as hard as he hit that ball, it doesn't matter the launch angle. Like, that could have gone out.

It also might have gone foul. Right. It was right down the line. But he hit the shit out of that ball. Yeah. That was like the highest, well, it's definitely the highest ball that we've ever seen in that ballpark. Why was the roof closed? The Great Prophet Kanye West.

No. He's cut out. You cut out. Yeah, that could have been anything. Kanye didn't say anything. That could have been anything that you said. We edited that out because we don't know. You got to support those views.

Yeah. Anytime you say, as the great Kanye West said, and then you get bleeped out. You have to assume the worst. It was, I said, I said, I guess we'll never know. Yeah, I guess we won't. Why was the roof closed on a 65 degree fall evening? I had that same question.

We looked it up. Apparently, the roof closes if at any point during the game or within like three hours of the first pitch, if the temperature would dip below like 65. That's nuts. There's like a dead set temperature. Yeah, it was a great night for open roof. baseball. We got to get rid of the roofs

to begin with. Why are we playing baseball inside? Baseball is better outdoors. I agree. Crazy. Football played inside. I don't care. Baseball no. Disagree with that too. Football is also. Yeah, I disagree with that take as well. Football's outside sport. Football's outside sport.

So it was a crazy ending to that game, Ty Francis shot. Can you find the backspin numbers? Do those exist? I'm sure it does somewhere. And then the ending of the game on Sunday night was just as crazy. Jackson Turyo is a monster. My guy, man. He's the only, as an adult, the only jersey I bought.

Yeah. Where did you guys get him from? I don't know that at that. I don't know how that works. International free agent. Okay, just an international free agent? I think so. I don't know how that works.

Okay. I didn't know either. Is that a, were you going somewhere with that? It seemed like, no, I was curious. I believe he's Venezuelan. Venezuela, yeah. I was curious, like, how that worked, like, which scout found them? That, because to me, that's still a pretty big mystery in baseball.

I don't know enough about that. Like, how you find the international players, how that works, how they signed to different teams. Yeah, there's like a, there's a pool of money you have to sign international guys. and I'm not exactly sure how all of it works either. I mean, he's a pretty big part of who becomes good. It's kind of crazy. Like I saw the top like 15 year old right now is expected to sign with the Braves. I don't know how all that works, but they're saying he's unbelievable.

The top 15 year old? I believe he's 15. I saw it this morning. Yeah, I mean, if I ran a major league baseball team, I would put all my money in international scouting. Alfredo Sanya. viewed by many as the top 2027 international prospect and if there's no draft

and the new CBA is expected to sign with the Braves for over $5 million. Oh yeah, that's the other thing. I guess they're talking about doing an international draft now as well. That probably would be the fairest way to do it. How are you feeling about the Braves, man? Good, yeah, we took a pretty big risk

and didn't pitch Chris Sailing game too and it kind of worked. I am a little upset at the look what a genius Walt Weiss is. is because they didn't pitch sale and they won. The whole point was that we needed sale to pitch twice in this series, and he's still only going to pitch once. Yeah.

Now, they won. You have it lined up. You got Sale and Malley at home tied one to one, so that that's great. I still would have loved to see Chris Sale last night, but we'll see what happens. It's a good series. You would take 1-1 as a result.

A thousand percent. Yeah. Thousand percent. Where do you come down on the three-game series, the Wildcard series? I hate it. I hate that there are two. I think it should be, if it's going to exist,

the three division winners should advance to the divisional series. Yeah. Makes enough sense to me. And then if you want to have two wild cards, they can play in the wild card series. Yep. And then the fourth one gets to the NLDS. I would agree with that.

I think the Braves, who won the NL East by seven or eight games, whatever it was, having to play the team that finished second over 162 games in a three-game series is nuts. I agree with that. And I don't really care for the three-game series, just in general, because it doesn't feel like a series. There's no rhythm to it whatsoever. It's different than, I mean, five games doesn't really do the same thing for me as a seven-game series,

but at least it feels like there's a rhythm to it and there's a series. But three games is just, it's not. And whoever wins game one almost always wins the series overall. PFT back in my day. I wouldn't mind that idea, though. I would like have two wild cards. They play each other. Maybe even one game.

Or I guess baseball wants to make some money. No, do the three. Because the one game sucked also. Yeah, let's make it. If you're going to do it, three game series in one place, the two top wild cards, that's more than enough. Yeah. We don't need all these 86 win teams in the playoffs. Yeah.

Enough. Yeah. And then the first place team, or the team, the division winner with the best record, they would play the winner of the wild card series. Correct. Yeah. Then the other two division ones. Back in my day, PFT, you may recall.

call this. It just went straight to the NLDS. There was no wild card team. And if you weren't that, sorry. You were S-O-L. Now, what would happen if you made it so that the team that finished, the division winner that finished with the best record, they could pick. I think that's great too. Who they would want to play. Because there is a case where maybe the winner of the wildcard series is a better team. Yeah. So like, that's realistic. So this year the the brewers could have picked either the winner of it would have been Padres and Cubs, right? The Phillies wouldn't have made it.

I think so. They finished third. So it would have been Padres and Cubs. Yeah. So Padres, so they could have picked Braves or the Padres. Or if you don't want to pick, I understand why you don't want to let a team pick. That does seem like outside the norm for professional sports. You just had them play like whoever had the worst regular season record.

Yeah, that's fine I think that's probably the best way to do it But yeah, brewers Brewers look awesome They're so much fun I actually think the Brewers and the Padres are the two most fun teams In baseball to root for

You were in my top five Yeah What are we doing if it's Braves Brewers I don't want to get ahead of myself What you want to do You don't ever want to do no push-up bet So I don't know what you do I don't want to

Your bets or not I was talking like, are we going to go? Oh, yeah, I'm down. I'm, whatever the next game is, I'm going to one of those games. Like, whoever we play, over the next series of me, I'm going. All right. I'll pull up. That's the braids all be in there.

Pull up on you. Somebody run the numbers and figure out what the Brewer's record has been since Arian and I threw out the first pitch. Because they were scuffling at that point. Yeah. Yeah. They were like 500 or around 500. And ever since then,

might be the best in baseball since that day. I think it is. Would have to be. Yeah. Yeah. Good work, Aaron. I'm doing my point. Yeah.

So, yeah, I like those teams. I also like the White Sox. They're fun to root for, too. This crappy team. What's up? Since June 8th, 2025, which is, I believe, the day you guys threw that first pitch, 170 and 100.

Wow. That's really good. So you're 6.30. That's a pretty good record. I mean, you're welcome, Milwaukee. This is what pays to have a guy like me on your fandom. And if you're just counting regular season, you're 165.94. That'll work. Yeah.

Hey. Nice work, Aaron. That's what I do, baby. Yeah, I also like the, I like the white socks. They're fun. yesterday hungover. Yesterday hungover, yeah. Today drunk?

No, he said, I'm drunk. Yesterday hungover. And she said, no, tomorrow you'll be hungover. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, tomorrow hungover. I don't speak English. I'm Japanese. I am Japanese. He's the man.

He's drunk pointing to his translator. He's drunk. Yeah, he is the man. I love the White Sox, even though, like, you know, obviously some issues with the ownership. But this year, you can't deny what's going on. just magic. I was actually, I was talking to a guy from Japan the other day

and we were talking about Murakami and Otani. And he was like, everyone in Japan is obsessed with Otani. Like everyone loves him. But he's like, we called Murakami God. He was like, his nickname is God.

Jeez. I was like, wow. Okay. Yeah, that's strong. That's pretty good. Yeah. How good do you have to be to get that nickname?

Yeah. We haven't given that out yet in the U.S. Like, we've had a lot of goats. the original goat, I believe Muhammad Ali, right? He was the first person that somebody referred to as the goat. Is that true? I think so.

I would have guessed goat came around like 10 years ago. No, no, no. I think either autobiography or biography authorized of Muhammad Ali was the goat. Okay. That makes sense. I don't think that's true. What? We've been saying goat since I've been a child.

I don't know. Let's find out. Right, but Muhammad Ali. But that could make sense. Yeah, Muhammad Ali was before you were a child. But when did that come out? It was when I was a kid, because I remember my dad bought that book. I don't know, I think this is one of those two Americas thing.

Maybe. The term is generally traced to boxing where Muhammad Ali was famously called the greatest, but the acronym goat became popular much later. A commonly cited early use of goat for an athlete as Earl Manichael. The legendary street basketball player in the 1990s, but the term was popularized in sports culture, especially by Muhammad Ali and later Michael Jordan. So, yeah, Earl Mannygo was a goat forever. Earl the goat, like, there was a really good, a really good HBO show about him. I don't know.

I forget if it was a movie or if it was a TV show back in the 90s about that guy. Yeah, he was the one like, there was like that, that fable that he took a, uh, uh, A quarter off the top of the backboard. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that happens. That's insane, buddy. How tall was he?

I have no idea. I'm looking forward to basketball season starting again. We'll have to do Big T's college basketball preview at some point. Exhibition start up next week. I think actually this week, some teams are playing. It feels like hockey and basketball are starting up earlier than normal. Hockey starting in September is ludicrous. That's...

That one I think is true because they expanded. They've got, what, 84 games? Yeah, they're playing two more games, which also flew under the radar. The first I heard of that was on the opening night. But... Yeah. There are only two months in the year that they don't play hockey. That's crazy.

That is nuts, yes. When you put it that way, it's like school. Yeah. They have an eight-week summer and that's it. Well, yeah, if you win the Stanley Cup or if you play in the Stanley Cup finals. Right, but the NHL is playing in 10 of the 12 months. That is crazy. That's too much.

They should not be playing in September. Even late October maybe. Yeah. I actually heard someone say one time the NHL season should start in the summer and end in February or March when the Stanley Cup would be the main thing going on instead of competing with the NBA finals. It's not a terrible light, except in most of the regular season, just it gets swallowed up by football.

But it's the first half when, you know, I mean, you have to be a diehard hockey fan to be locked in on it anyway. As opposed to, and then the part that's taking place while it's hot outside is the part most people aren't watching. And then when it's cold outside is when you have the big stuff going on. I do like the springtime, though,

when you have the NBA and the NHL on at the same time. Yeah. To me, that's, it's late nights, but that's kind of the magic. of the playoffs happening that time of year. We just got some news today that Alex Ovechkin is going to be retiring at the end of this season. He addressed the team and then the Capitol has put out the statement.

So it's going to be his last year. And shout out to the Caps because they've sneaky put together a pretty good roster around OVie in his last couple seasons because I thought three years ago, I thought that OV was just going to be going out there and trying to get the goal record and the capitals would be kind of like middling around and not really. Like postponing the rebuild until after Ovi got the record, they've done a really good job for the last two years of rebuilding. I don't want to say team of destiny.

It's very early. But I feel like this is a sneaky Stanley Cup team. That would be an awesome story. That'd be really cool. How old is he? He is 41. 41. 41, yeah.

September 17th, 1985. Yep. Still doing it. still doing it and he's been grave for like 10 years. Speaking of Russia, you guys want to talk about pneumonic plague? Yeah, I do. So I'd only heard of bubonic plague before,

which is like black death. Yeah. So when you got bit by a flea that was on a rat, you get boobonic plague or if you get exposed to like rodent poop or something like that. And you hear about bubonic plague like a couple times a year, Usually in, was that like the Southwest? Oh, is that, you're still hearing about it?

Yeah, occasionally. Oh, I haven't heard about it. There'll be like bubonic plague found, but not even necessarily like on a human or in a human. I haven't heard about it in a while. Yeah, they like to put that out to scare everybody because they know if they say like bubonic plague. People are like, oh, here we go. It's an attention grabber. It's an intention grabber for sure.

Probably for good reason. But yeah, they like to trot that one out there a couple times. I'd not heard of the pneumonic plague, but there is apparently at least one case of pneumonic plague that occurred in Russia at their anti-plague research institute. How many of these institutes are there? The anti-plague research institutes? Well, there was the coronavirus lab. The Wuhan lab, yeah. Famously gave us the coronavirus.

Now there's the anti-plague lab giving us a new plague. maybe we should look into these places a little more that just happen to also reside in our biggest global adversaries. Like maybe we look into that. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, just calling something the anti-plague Institute raises a lot of questions. Yeah, certainly. Like how big of an issue was the plague for you guys that you developed an entire institute? I would just like to see the security measures at these places stepped up. It's like if we had, if there was a bar here in Chicago,

and it was called Not a Strip Club. Right. What would you expect to find inside not a strip club? I would guess that that's a diversion and it actually is a strip club. Definitely not a strip club, though. You might have missed the title. No, I heard it. And if it's not a strip club, people are going to go there and start taking their clothes off.

And they'll turn it into one. So, yeah, the Anti-Plaug Institute in Russia, it's in Siberia, which I guess is good because it's kind of relatively isolated. So it was a 28-year-old lab technician died about four days ago, and they were hospitalized on September 29th. And they tested negative for plague bacteria, reported no lab accident, and then Russia put 200 of that person's contacts under quarantine and medical observation. So I don't know about you guys, but I do trust Russia to handle a catastrophe like this. I mean, I'm thinking back to name one time in history where they've ever downplayed some sort of deadly lab accident. Racking my brain. Yeah.

3.6, Ronkin, not great, not terrible. Chernobyl. Apparently, they don't even teach Chernobyl in Russian schools. They're just like, that's a scary force, never go there. We won't tell you what. Don't ask why. But it's bad. Have you seen that show?

Yeah, it's a great show. It was really dope. Yeah, it was really dope. I'm seeing that the, the pneumonic plague has a 100 times death rate of COVID. Yeah, so that's, yeah, we should probably talk about what the pneumonic plague is. Because bubonic plague, we hear about, and yeah, we think it could be bad, but it also doesn't have a super high mortality rate. compared to some of the other stuff that we've heard about. Pneumonic Plague, not only is it super deadly,

but it's also way more contagious person to person. Whereas like Bubonic Plague, yeah, you got to get bit by something. And then you get it. Pneumonic Plague sounds like pneumonia because it's like a respiratory thing. And so I believe it's airborne. Do you know what happened the same day that the technician at the Rkutsk Antipag Research Institute contracted this disease.

Do you know what happened on that same day? No. You don't. I don't. You haven't been following the messages? Taylor Swift released patient zero. Are you serious?

Pun intended, I'm dead serious. What's your response, Mad Dog McKenzie? I have none. Do disavow Taylor Swift if she started a plague? I think so. Yeah, probably. I think that's my line. Okay.

is if she starts a plague. But nothing before that. I need to see hard evidence that she is the one that's starting this plague. I don't think she started it, to be clear, just some interesting parallels. An Easter egg, as she would say. Yeah. And she does love those. She does.

And Lord does she. I'm looking at the location of this research institute. It is kind of in the middle of nowhere. So it's like just north of, and I don't want to say just north, but it's north of Mongolia right in the dead dick center of Russia. So there's not a whole lot going on there. But there is a railroad that goes through there. And they do have airports and shit.

So if this one person exposed somebody else, it could be bad. I'm seeing some early reports that tomorrow things in St. Petersburg and Moscow might start shutting down. where did you see that report? People on Twitter. Okay. But they're saying, they're saying tomorrow could be the day. I mean,

that's what's so weird about, about Russia handling this is we don't know what truly to believe from them because they're probably going to downplay if it's serious. Yeah. So the incubation, this is just what I looked up right now.

The incubation plague for, or excuse me, the incubation period for mnemonic plague, is typically one to three days. It could be as long as six days. So symptoms after inhalation can begin as soon as one day, usually seen one to three days. A person who remains healthy more than seven days is considered very unlikely to develop the infection. So the good news is it's a shorter incubation period than the bubonic plague.

So if you get it, it's easier to stop you from giving it. to other people. Like the worst case scenario would be if it was some disease that you didn't start showing symptoms until like 10 days after you got it because then you're going around infecting everybody. I will say you made a prediction probably several years ago at this point that does seem prescient at this moment, which was at some point there may be another pandemic, you know, whatever you want to call it. And people will be far more hesitant to, you know, stay in their houses, whatever. And it seems like, and that that could be true, depending on, you know, to what extent that's mandated now. But this one seems like it actually is like you better

not get it or you will die. Yeah. So that, I remember having that conversation with you and how fucked I thought we would be if there was like when COVID first came out, I think a lot of people downplayed it at first. And then afterwards, if anything they, I mean, millions of people did die, but it was made to seem like it was going to be like a very deadly thing when we didn't know about which, which demographics were going to be most affected by it. And so it was super deadly if you were an older person or if you had comorbidities or compromised immune system. But if you were young and relatively healthy, it wouldn't necessarily have a high percent chance of killing you. But you would then spread it. So we kind of, it became,

the thing where we thought it was going to be super deadly people wore masks for a little bit and then they got fed up with the government pressuring them to do stuff shutting down work churches businesses sports you name it and then our reaction to that i always thought was going to be the next time if a new disease comes around and it is more deadly than even they'd warned us about with covid at the start people are going to be like yeah right we're not going to believe you We're not going to wear the masks. I'm reading right now that this could be, if this was like a widespread pandemic, it would be way more deadly. But with that short incubation period, I feel like we wouldn't have to shut places down for even two weeks.

It would be maybe just like a week or so. Well, I've also been seeing it kills so quickly and effectively that it doesn't spread as bad. Right. So it could kill within a couple of times. days. Whereas like COVID, that spread because you could have people without symptoms that had it. Yeah. And you could have like a longer incubation period. And the people that had it would, if they were going to die, they were even going to be able to walk around for a little bit before they started showing symptoms and spread that around. I'm reading that masks reduce the risk of

pneumonic plague transmission. I'm sure that won't be a fight that we have as a society. You think the Western Massachusetts bar is going to go back to a full-time mask? I bet that I bet that Facebook page jumped off when this news came out. Credit to them incredible timing. Yeah. Like, are you happy now? You've gone and done it Western Massachusetts lesbian bar. That was the one place.

That was America's apocalypse bunker that we were counting on going to. And this has all been a test to see if you would even sacrifice your morals. Uh, just going around the room real quick. Just, just gauging the room, 100% accident. What? This. I have no idea. I mean, people still, like, if you asked me that about what happened with COVID, I would tell you, I don't know.

I can say there's a good chance that it was leaked from the lab. I just, just preponderance of the evidence. Accident. In this, I literally just found out about this like yesterday. Okay. So I, I don't know. My 100% truthful answer is I don't know. You had to guess.

If I had to guess, I would say probably not intentional. If it's as deadly as they're saying that it is, I don't understand what the benefit would be for Russia to, like, infect their own population with this. Well, unless they got somebody over here with it first. Okay. Or you're saying like if there was somebody like an inside person. Yeah. Biological. Like Ukraine had something.

somebody spread it or something. Yeah, maybe. I still don't understand that because there's enough that would end up wiping out Ukraine too. Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm just saying it seems suspect. If all the stats that I'm reading are accurate, I don't understand why it would be intentionally leaked because the chances of it taking you out would be so high. Yeah.

But I don't know. We just found out about it. So I'm hoping that this is just fear porn and that nothing comes of it. But I don't know. Do you think that? Yeah, that'll be bad. We're not going to handle that well as a people if it does happen. No, I don't think so. Because Big T, I remember when we had that conversation, you were saying the other way that we've been conditioned where everybody will behave.

But I don't necessarily think that. I don't know that I think that. I think at a certain juncture, there's only so much you can do. Like, if everything is shut down, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah. I actually saw someone had an interesting thread saying that like, all right, there's another lockdown. Everybody plays GTA6, everybody, you know, whatever, another six months. And that's when we bring the robots in.

And they take over the economy to such an extent that when, it's time for everybody everybody's like all right it's over we're going back to work no more work it's all robots and it turns out gta six is just like a massive second life video game that you can play and that's your life now yeah just everyone just exists inside the video game maybe yeah i i don't think that we wouldn't shut down in the united states unless there were like confirmed cases here because if you had it if it was like only overseas we like close the border were shut down. There's still going to be cases overseas that would somehow figure out their way to get here. Well, this was what, 10 days ago? How many flights have come and gone between the

U.S. and Russia in the last couple weeks? I don't think any. Well, you can get from Russia. You can get, yeah. Yeah, it would take a few legs of that flight. There's no direct flight from here to Russia? I think they closed those down. I think as part of the sanctions. I could be wrong. I could be wrong about that. Are there flights from United? Have you ever been to Russia?

No, I have not. Have you? No. I've been. The only place in Europe I've been is England, and I guess they don't consider themselves part of Europe anymore, so. There are no direct commercial flights

between the U.S. and Russia, but you can find indirect routes. So, yeah, there's probably some people that have been to Russia that have come back to the United States and last week. Definitely, a lot of them. All right, well, hey, look forward to

how this unfolds. I hope it's nothing. I hope so. Fingers crossed. Because as a society, I don't think that we're ready to run through this again. They couldn't have given us 10 years, you know? I mean, we're right off. Yeah, it's been about five since things got

relatively back to normal. Oh, I think fewer than that. I don't think things were like really back normal until like 23-ish. 23? At least where we were living. Let's see. Vaccine came out in, what, February of 21?

For most people? Yeah, yeah, March maybe. Yeah. And then that summer, that summer was relatively normal, I think. Of 21? Yeah. No. There were a lot of places.

That's when, uh, because fall of 21 is when they introduced, uh, that was Omicron, right? Then we went back to Omicron and then it was all all over again. They did. Yeah, there were places that you'd have to like show your, your vaccine card to get into. I'd say summer 2020. Summer, that's when it felt normal again. Yeah. I'm thinking back on summer 2020. I don't remember doing anything ridiculously pandemic-esque.

Yeah. I don't want to go back. I don't want to go back to Zoom meetings. No offense here and you're on Zoom right now. but doing everything remote at work that's bad times let's not do that no sports no sports oh god

we can't do that we can't do that no more fake championships there's too much go oh here's what happens here's what happens unreal they run the they run the bubble back this might all be a play by LeBron wow

get one more chip before he goes out. Does this have something to do with his polymarket affiliation? Maybe did he? Possibly. Yes. Possibly. We're going to probably do the bubble and the Sixers are going to win and LeBron's going to get one last ring before retirement and then throw a big parade for himself.

And then he's going to start a rival basketball league. That's how it all ends. Like real basketball or banana ball? Yeah, banana ball. I mean, the future of the world is just banana. Yeah. We'll be the worst sport to banana-nize. Baseball? They've already done it.

They started with the worst one. America's pastime for the last 150 years. Yeah, that one. They started at the worst one, and then they, that way it's easier if they do it with other sports. I mean, college football. If they tried to do banana college football, that would really upset me. Banana college football, banana hockey would stink. Banana hockey could be.

cool. No. Now this is coming from someone who's not a, you know, a hockey purist. I enjoy the game, but I'm not, you know, tied to like I am with baseball. Banana ball hockey, you could, you could get me to the United Center for Banana ball hockey. Banana puck. Banana puck. Banana golf. No. Well, live, the problem with live is they didn't go full banana. That's great. Right. They went half banana. Yeah, they went half. You can't go. You can't go half banana. Everyone's going to, you're not going to know what to make of it when you're there. It's like it's a little bit louder, but it's not.

It could be way louder than this. They're wearing shorts, but. Yeah, but they're not wearing tank tops. Right. We need if the ball goes, there's no neon colors. They don't have eye black on at the golf course. Yeah. The fans come with clubs.

And if the ball goes into the gallery, the fan that's closest gets to hit the next shot. Yeah. Yeah. Or you can like assign somebody, be like, you have to hit my opponent's next shot. Nice. Yeah. That's kind of fire, actually. Yeah, yeah.

One hole is you, you each pick one guy that you've never met before in the stands, and you have to go alt shot with that person. Stamble. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I might be reversing. Banana golf might be good.

Yeah, banana golf might be okay. You put everyone who buys a ticket, you get a raffle into a big hat, and then they pull it out, and then you can get selected to putt for one player. That's actually fire. Yeah. They should do that on the pro. anyway, that would be fun. That would be fun to watch.

And then there's a windmill hole. But it's a giant windmill. The T-shot has to go through it. Yeah, the T-shots got to go through the windmill. That's insane. Banana golf. The bananaization of America is, it's upon us. Politics.

We're going to have banana elections. We are becoming a banana republic. Yeah. One of my favorite. I'm voting team fire. Firefighters. Well, so one of my favorite guys on social media right now is this crew, they're, I mean, they're playing a character, but they are, they're diehard banana ball fans.

And they have like each team. And they like post clips of them streaming the games. And I saw one the other day. And he's like, the bananas had a walk off or whatever. He's like, the bananas are going to the banana bowl. And the other guy who was a fan of the clowns or whoever it was pissed off. God damn. It's a great bit.

That's a very good bit. Yeah. Who else is there? There's the tailgators. Yeah, the tailgators. Yeah, Texas tailgators. I'm a diehard tailgator fan. Party animals.

Firefighters, tailgators, clowns, party animals. The bananas are five. I think there's six. We're missing one. I could see them. I could see. Oh, the loco beach coconuts, obviously. Oh, obviously.

I could see the people that run that league branching out and just like, Yeah, we're going to franchise the banana model. I think that's sports. I think they might be. That might happen. Yeah. On the way to that. They're making money hand over fist.

There's a few sports that might be banana proof. Don't say that. That's what they said about baseball. No one will ever bastardize this game, they said. I think swimming might be banana proof. No. You can't do anything under the water. People in the stands can't see it.

There's not a lot of. I'm thinking obstacles. Yeah, but that's boring to watch somebody like swim around an obstacle. That doesn't, like kids aren't going to. How often do you watch swimming? Yeah, I don't ever. Like in the Olympics. Yeah.

Yeah, like once every four years. Maybe you'll catch a 500 meter, whatever. Yeah. 50 meter. I don't even know. If we have like a generationally great swimmer for the United States, then I'll, I'll get into swimming for like minutes at a time. How many events are there total at the Olympics?

Oh, this is a good, this is a good guess. Let's all guess. You want to go summer? Yeah, summer, winters. How many total events? Yeah. Yeah, so this is like there's, we're not counting swimming as one. We're counting all the 70 different swimming things, right?

Okay. Yeah, right. I think there might be like 230. Oh, no. This is metal events. So this is in events you can win a medal. Yeah. 524.

Wow. Okay. That's high. I'm going to be the median. I'm going to go 300, even. In Paris, specifically, 329. Good job, Aaron. That's a lot of fucking is.

But obviously it's different every year based on what sports are in versus out. Yeah, what was the break dancing one? That will not be back in L.A. But L.A. will have. Flag football. Skateboarding and flag football. And lacrosse. Oh, I can't believe.

my mind went away from that until we're not it's not a uniform number of medals that they oh man ray gun reagan isn't there did that documentary come out it's out it's coming out it's out i've seen i've not watched it but i i know i've heard that it's a little too sympathetic to raygon it's very yeah i didn't watch it but i heard some a podcast that i listened to talked about it and yeah she was like you might be on her side after watching it i mean she did get a visceral She did. Yeah, I don't think the punishment necessarily fit the crime. Yeah, it should have been funny and it became like, really mean. Yeah, very mean-spirited. That's the internet, though. That's what we do best.

Yeah, I was thinking of some other, you know what? The Globetrotters should be pissed off at the bananas. Oh, yeah. Like, they kind of stole their whole thing. Their Skype. Yeah. Globetrotters had this first. And they got lapped. And they got lapped by, because they didn't think to put like neon colored hats on while they did their shit. It's sad. But was there a time that the Globetrotters had the cultural impact of the bananas? Yes. I believe there was.

Yes. Yeah, that's true. Like the, I'd say the 1970s, 1980s. I think the fact that they've been around long enough to get lapped is proof of their concept. They just didn't evolve. It's kind of their whole thing. Was it like the same opinion, like Big T's opinion of Banana Ball? did people have that of the Globetrotters or was it like we like them it's really fun to watch?

I think they had a very high approval rating. I think that most people liked the Globetrotters. But also if the internet had been around. Yeah, that's true. Maybe it would not be the case because maybe, because there was an illusion that the Globetrotters were the best, the actual, like, best basketball players on earth that could do these crazy trick shots and athletic feats that nobody else could.

which I guess is still kind of true to this this day but yeah I think I think that they did have the impact they had more of an impact I would say than the bananas

you have bananas have lasting power 75 years yeah I I had no idea that Ray Gunn had a documentary yeah this is news to me is it HBO?

Mm-hmm. I know, it's on Netflix, I think. Oh, okay. I think it might be one of the untold. I'm going to have to get this to watch. How did the Ted Cruz interview go, man? I'm so mad I missed that. Yeah, I wish that you'd been there for that.

It would have been great. He did say that he would come back on. Did we give him any pushback on that stupid fucking bill? Uh, yes. Eric did, yeah. Yeah, we talked about it a little bit. We said basically the whole, the most important part of that, that bill is the 10-year salary cap, which does not have meaningful increases to it.

Like if you saw that in any other sport, the salary cap would increase quite a bit over 10 years. And that's just not the case in this one, which kind of gives it away, like, who help put these numbers in place. And then he was saying that the House settlement would enable the plaintiffs in that case to go back and raise the rate of pay, which that doesn't really. make too much sense either. So the House settlement that was like the bill that,

or not the bill, it was a court case that established NIL. So yeah, I think it went okay. I think it was fine. It wasn't like, it wasn't confrontational or contentious or anything like that.

But I think that there's a very clear, there's a very clear fingerprints on who the bill benefits the most and who it doesn't. And I would also be curious to know who's getting paid money to lobby for this bill. I think that's something that you should have to disclose, by the way. If you're a lobbyist for a bill,

I think if you make public statements about the bill, I think you should have to disclose that you're being paid to do it. And I could be wrong. It could just be guys like Nick Saban Dionne Sanders might just really passionately believe in this legislation is what I'm saying. It's a possibility. Is he begging for it too?

It's a good possibility that Dion Sanders has a deep, passionate reason for getting this bill passed through Congress. But there's also a possibility that he's being paid. And they're telling him what, you know, hey, This is good for coaches. And it is. It would be good for a guy like Dionne Sanders, I think, to have this bill go through. And so there might be somebody telling him that and saying, we'd like you to help us get this bill pass. I don't know.

I'm completely speculating on that. But it also wouldn't be the craziest thing. Yeah. Do you see what happened with him this weekend? I don't think so. Their playbook? Oh, yeah. I did see that.

Yep. So their playbook was left in a hotel room. at the hotel bar. A Texas tech fan was at the Colorado team hotel at the bar, and I guess some of their coaches were down there. And the Texas tech fan went on one of their message boards and was like, I'm pretty sure I just found Colorado's playbook. He's like, it looks, it has our tendencies in it.

It has red zone. It's got every, it looks legit. Does anyone know how I can get this to our coaching staff? And like, nobody responded. I don't think he posted a picture of it. and then he posted a video the next day of their script and the first 10 plays they ran and it was 100%

it was their real playbook. And he had it. And they had just left it down at the hotel bar. That's careless. When I was in the league, like if you look, it was a $10,000 fine in training camp. I remember that.

Yeah, can't do that. It's not great. Are they not all on iPads now? I guess some guys just like getting ink under the nails. Some people like paper still. Like it's easy. I went to, like so it was got, uh,

gotsy. He's the OC for Georgia Tech. I went to go to that game and I went to his office and he still has all his playbooks for everything that he's, every team that he's coach for. And there's a lot of them still paper. Yeah, I guess older guys might just like it like that.

But why did you have it down? at the bar. Don't know. We fell out of the backpack maybe. Yeah. You never have to charge a piece of paper. Like maybe some guys just don't like the obligation of plugging. How many things do you guys charge every day?

Three? Three? My laptop, my phone, my Apple Watch. I've got five probably. Phone, iPad, computer, AirPods, PlayStation charger. controller

watch I don't have a Apple watch the Apple watch that the Apple watch to me doesn't I don't get it it's the same as the phone it just it doesn't do anything for me I agree like I had one for like a month

and I'm like I'm just same shit no I'm not still charging the Apple Vision Pro no I'm just sitting that thing still sitting under my

the nightstand I I use the Applevision Pro the other day I matter of fact I did I there's a

new flight sim that you can hook it up to that's on the computer yeah and I I heard that they might

be coming out with a flight sim that's just straight up using the headset I've always said this like it's super dope I just don't

have anything to use it for like they don't there wasn't a lot a interface for it. There's no cool things to do like just regular apps or watch movies. Like there's just not a lot of dope shit to do on it. I used it the other day and I had, um, it was college football and I had like multiple windows pulled up on it and I was watching like six games at once on various apps and stuff. And it felt like I had just big screen TVs that were right in front of my face. It was awesome. It was a good experience. And it worked well? It worked really well. Yeah.

When it worked, like when there's something to use it for, I'll give them this. it works and it looks awesome. There's just not a lot that you can do it with, but then also keeping it on your face for that long. It starts to like hurt and your neck starts to hurt. Your eyes starts to hurt. So like you can't sit with it on for longer than like 45 minutes an hour. But when it works, like it is when there's something to use it on,

it works really well. And it's awesome. But I would not recommend buying it. The technology outpaced its utility. Yeah. And they were, I think they were counting on having a lot of people develop apps for that thing. So like, you know, the Apple store has a lot of, every major

company in America has their own app that's on the Apple store. And a lot of them have apps that are like specifically designed for iPads even. But very, very few companies have apps that are specifically designed for the Apple Vision Pro. The NBA has one. It's kind of unusable. MLB is actually decent. They just don't have enough games on there.

But when you do get a game that's like that you can watch on the Apple Vision Pro it's pretty sweet. They're still selling. I haven't done that one. Yeah.

I mean, are they doing the playoff game? I'll try to watch a playoff game. I don't know if they're doing any playoff games that you can watch live on there. I'm trying to remember what else. Oh, golf.

The PGA has like a pretty decent app where you can just like pull up a 3D model. of the golf courses. But again, it's not something that you would ever use casually inside your own house. I think that might be

what they're going for with new glasses that they're putting out. Yeah, I saw something about that. They're trying to like, there's like regular glasses but it's still immersive. Yeah.

Looking forward to that. But like this, did you see the Apple Fold that came out? Yeah, I'm gonna try to get that. Next version. But it looks pretty dope. You're going to get the second version of that?

That's probably smart. Because I'm sure they're going to find out. Because, I mean, how we capture memories as humans now is on our phones. That camera sucks on the Apple Fold. So I'm going to wait for them to say, okay, we can put a better camera in there. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like the folding part is going to get in the way.

But I'm still going to try. Yeah, I feel. I feel like we've kind of buried the lead not having done Argentina at this point Okay, let's do it We're going to talk about your adventures in Argentina They're brought to you by part of my cheese steak though Part of my cheese steak.com

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All right, Aaron, talk to me about Argentina. When did you decide to go there? And what were you up to? I got a friend that lives out there. Move there and just been there for 15 years. And just randomly hit me. It was like,

pull up and I was like alright fuck it I'll do it it was months and months ago I planned it and so went out there it was really dope I want to disrespect the country but

the food was kind of it was okay it was okay I was like I want some like Argentina food and I went there I went to a lot of different places there was a really good sandwich I had though that had like this hot dog meat type sausage whatever they I forget what the names are

called but food is okay it wasn't bad but it wasn't like great usually I'm I like to be blown away by local cuisine but uh the highlight of the trip was um the only was doing iawaska trip and so ayahuasca I've always wanted to do it I've always wanted to do like DMT in some capacity. And I was nervous and shit. So I decided to just fucking do it. So we drove like an hour from the city

and we were at some guy's house. At first, in order for me to do it, I had to do a call with the shaman. So the shaman is the guy that kind of conducts the ceremony. And I had to have a call with him. And he has to

because it's his ceremony. Like he has to have a good vibe from everybody. there or else it throws his shit off. So he felt like I had a good vibe. I was accepted. And so that day, see, the three days before they say don't eat any meat, refrain from sex, and try not to, oh, no, no alcohol either. So I did that. I respected it. Because I wanted to have a good experience. So I was like, let me buy in. So we went out there, we drove like an hour and some changed outside the city and it was just like this random little little house and i go inside and people started slowly start showing it was like like eight people in the ceremony um

and we and you go in and there's like just like eight beds all in in this room and in the in the middle that i'm thinking i'm like what the fuck am i doing here duff this was random house in Buenos Aires outside of Buenos Aires. Some people I have no idea. They don't speak English. I don't speak Spanish. I was like, what am I doing here, though? But so I taught, and I ended up talking to the shaman before.

I'm, I ain't allowed me. I'm kind of nervous, man. Like, I'm nervous, though. Because, like, I'm adjusting something that I have been never put in my body before. So, you know, naturally, I had a little anxiety. Yeah, so we start the ceremony. he explains what's going to take place how long we're going to be there. It was like, I think we started like at 11 and it was like six, seven hours in a room.

And so you take your first little dose. He gives everybody a cup. He explains everything that's going on. You take your first little cup and you just lay down and he starts playing like this music. And I forget what the name of it's called. But the music is very like. native. It's it's you know like chanting tribal kind of stuff and apparently it was made for your ayahuasca trip and so about 34 to five minutes then I didn't feel anything I was like well

fuck this is a dud I thought I didn't think it nothing happened would it taste like it like I kind of liked it it was like very dry bitter like if you used to like ground up dirt with a root. Okay. It tasted similar similar to that. Like I didn't, I didn't hate the taste. It was, it was like to me. So it's a drink?

Yeah. Okay. And how many other people were in the room? It was like eight, eight other people that went through the ceremony. It was like a special ceremony for him because he's moving from Buenos Aires to Brazil. Okay. And he, and so his, his girlfriend was there and his brother was there. So he's the first time.

And his brother, I talked to him later, really, really cool dude. loved him. I talked to him afterwards and he he's done ayahuasca like I don't know like 10 times but he had never done it with his brother before. So it was like a cool moment for for them. Yeah, it's a little it's a little drink. So you drink the little drink and like I said I lay down in like 30, 45 minutes in I started to feel that shit. And it was like you start to see why they I mean, he literally played for six hours. He played music. He sang.

And he was like curating the experience. And it's like when it hits, it's hard to expect, but when it hits, it's like you go to another place. It is, it's kind of insane. And the music that he plays kind of guides the experience. So like different sounds evoke different emotions and different feelings and like it's it's like this best way I was like this like this like dissolution of self and there was at one point in time I couldn't differentiate myself

from the music that was playing and that doesn't make a lot of sense to yeah yeah but like it was like I was hearing the music and I was like I can't tell the difference between me and music and it's a very surreal feeling that if you're just listening to me right oh you're just high like no It's like this immersion into your environment and into this place that we live in at a very high level. I would describe it as. But you're like you're still there. Like you're not like tweaking.

You're there. Like I would say like two hours in, three hours in. I'm like having thoughts and feelings and shit like these geometric patterns like, you know, like I'm. Mandelbrot set, you know, you zoom into like infinite patterns. It felt like that in various different ways and it was folding and it was really dope. And then like, so like two, three hours in, he had like an assistant that would like pass out the drink. He was like, it's time for the second. Time for the second dose.

So the dude comes up to me and he just puts it by your bed. I looked and I said, okay. And I, in my head, I'm like, I ain't taking that shit. I am out of here. But as it goes on, it feels like they always say, like, the plant talks to you. Like, the plant will say what you need to get from it. And so he comes up to me. I hadn't drank it.

I don't know how long it had been, but I hadn't drank the second shot. And he goes, the assistant goes, I recommend a second drink, very good. And I was like, I, like, I'm still not taking that shit. But later on, like, I'm looking out of the window and you just felt very, um, uh, the environment feels very nostalgic like the trees like the wind you just feel a part of it it's hard to explain um but i ended up just staring out the window and it's just you get this resounding like i there's more to to gain for this experience so i just took the next shot and that's when i the second shot was when i had like the revel i guess like the revelations they would say where you like

really digging to yourself who you are what kind of person you want to be things you're going through things you've gone through um it got it got really uh really deep from from that perspective um and i was there was a there's a point in time where like relationships with my my family members people that i love all that this stuff comes up like all of this stuff comes up and you just sit there like there was a person next to me was crying person next to me was throwing person next to me you throwing up and it's like a weird like like this sense of control that we feel like we have over our lives that I felt like a resounding like uh because in that moment I'm sitting here in a house high as hell off this plant and there's two people that are like struggling by me my natural

response is like to check on them but in that moment I'm like yo I don't I don't have any control over this they'll be all right I mean I went I went through ups and downs emotionally but at the at like towards the end, it was probably the best I've ever felt in my life emotionally. Like, I remember thinking, like, I was, I'm in a sea of safeness. It was very, like, very happy, just extremely happy and content with where I was and who I was. But it was an amazing experience, though. The people that were next to, like the person crying, do they speak English or were they speaking primarily Spanish?

The person next to me spoke English. Okay. And did everyone, like the person that was crying, would that be classified as having like a bad trip? Or is that part of the process for some people to like go through these big swings emotionally? Yeah, no, that particular moment we talked afterwards and they were saying how they felt like a very strong emotional tie to,

the past people in their lives. Yeah. And they were having an experience about with that. So like people that they've lost, uh, she was just saying how like, uh, people,

yeah, the people in her life were, she was reconnecting with them. Yeah. So it was, it was a good cry from what she said. Was there a hangover? No, not,

not in the sense of like alcohol. No. Um, it was the sense of like, a day or two afterwards you you kind of riding the high is not the best way

to put it because you're not high it's like the experience that you had lingers with you yeah like it's it's still there so I had this resounding joy

I had this resounding and reverberating like lust and in enjoyment for life. Yeah. And I had a religious experience in there too. Yeah. Yeah.

You hit the group chat. You hit the group chat. I did. Didn't that? What I said? There might be a God. Can't wait to talk on the pot. Yeah.

It was interesting. So in, when you're in it and you're having these, it's not a lot of, it's not audible. Like nothing talks to you, well, nothing talk to me. But it was like you get like understanding through whatever experiences you have. Like there's like under these patterns have and you'll understand what it is. It's like a it's like, I don't know, it's like a feeling. So in one of these like visions that I had, there was like this rotating carousel of religious symbols. Right.

And it was like rotating like this. And out of that came like this huge, the best way I can try it was like a cosmic night. It didn't have any features. It was like, you know, I couldn't tell it was a dude or a girl. But it was like this big figure. And it was like, it had this like moving universe, universal background drop of like cloth draped. That was, it was insane. I wish I could draw that shit.

And like the resounding, like, I guess, interpretation that I had and feeling that it was, like, the religious figures that were rotating around, it was like, those are small. Like, those are human beings' best interpretation of what's actually happening, what's actually going on. But there's something else going on. And humans can only describe it. They're doing their best to describe it. And I was like, it was a very powerful moment. Another really powerful moment was I was in the middle of like trying to like reconnecting

with some of my family members, like thinking about my family members and who I need to like be better for. And then there was the dude that was the brother of the shaman, he gets up and he hugs his brother and they just had like a super dope moment. And the same time I was thinking about that shit, that was another really powerful moment that I shared with him. He was like, that was really dope. But all the other man, it was like a really, really eye-opening experience.

Again, I'm a pragmatic person. I don't really not too much into the woo-woo shit. But I mean, this life is full of shit that we don't know. And that experience was interesting, man. I would recommend it to anybody who's open-minded. It was dope. I think the mindset that you have going into is probably pretty important. Yeah.

So that was another thing. I told myself, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it all the way and I'm going to let go. Like, you have to let go. That was another thing. Like, you can get super panic attacks if you don't let go. And part of letting go was, like, again, like, the reality that we have, that we think we have here, it goes away. And as it starts to slip away, you try to hang on to it. So you're literally like, I'm hanging on and I tense up and stuff.

And the message received was like, yo, you got to let go, let go, let go. And as soon as you let go, it opens up this whole other world. And it's fantastic. And so do you feel like just more at peace overall? That was initially. Absolutely. Absolutely. But talking with everybody who has done it a lot,

they were like the the work doesn't stop they were saying they're like some of the most beautiful humans i've met were at this ceremony though these people are just great people though um and they were like it it were they said they say the plant reveals to you what it need what you need to see but the work is is on you to continue to be the person that you want to be and so uh yeah i mean i i had like real revelations in there where like things I've wanted to work on myself and this kind of just showed me that it was fascinating fascinating stuff yeah it's very cool it's very cool do you know how many people like how many different shamans there are in in I guess that part of Argentina is that a common thing I couldn't say that I also wonder like to people from

Argentina do they do they go to the shaman's as well or is it mostly people that come from outside the country. I don't know that everybody, that ceremony was from there. I don't know the stats and I know I've seen one video this is like, there's this lady from somewhere in South America. She's like, I'm tired of people coming, tell me about their spiritual experience with ayahuasca. You're just crackhead. You're just doing drugs in the middle of force and you're crack.

But I mean, I'm sure people, some people feel like that. But I remember taking mushrooms when I was a kid. it. And I took it because I was trying to get high, you know, when people get high. Like, when you smoke a weed, I just want to get high. But I remember taking them as a kid. I was like, this ain't like a drug like that. This ain't a party drug. This is, it was an experience. And I think there's a lot of science behind psychedelics having, connecting neurons in a way that they're not connected when you're not on it. and the treatment of PTSD and depression, they're starting to get there with psychedelics.

So I think there is something with psychedelics that have a profound effect on our brains. What that is, I couldn't tell you, but what it felt like is there's just more to this place than we think there is. And I think psychedelics are like a glimpse into it. It's what it feels like. I don't know if that's true, but that's what it feels like.

Very cool. It's dope, man. How long was all this going on? You're in that room for like six, seven hours. Oh, that's right. You said that. That's crazy. I think I would do it.

Yeah. Yeah. So I have, so I'm trying to get him back or try to get him here. He said he'd be open to it. He's like if you get people that are interested in experience, he said he's open to do that. And like I said, I think it would be amazing having a whole bunch of people that wouldn't normally have access or wouldn't do it. Because I would have never done it unless my friend didn't reach out. I was like, just do it.

And I was like, all right, time. And I think, I think you would, I think you would like this year. So can you bring it into the United States? does it travel? Nah, it's a drug. Well, I didn't know if it traveled. Like, if you could... He's going to get it here.

Okay. Yeah. Figure out of way. He's going to get it here. Yeah, he'll get it here. Did you have any Yerba Mata while you were down there? A well? Yerba Mata?

Is that that, like, it's like tea, but they leave it there? Yeah. Yeah, no. Everybody's trying to get me to drink that, but I don't like tea. It's just like, I like it's, I like it. I think it's pretty good. It gives you the caffeine buzz that you get from it is less of a buzz and more just like it's a long lasting like burst of energy. Yeah, that's what everybody was saying.

Everybody was walking around with those little, it kind of looks like a pipe. Yeah. Everybody's walking around with that shit. I should have tried it. They're bumbeas. Yeah. They do look like crackheads. Just everyone's like I got my tea.

I got my tea right here. They get a big bag of it and they got the thermos with the hot water. Yeah. Everybody walking around a little thermos. Yep. Well, cool. That sounds like an awesome experience. It does. It was really dope, man.

What were you doing for three days if you weren't eating meat and drinking? That's the only thing to do. Well, I mean, if you weren't eating meat, what were you eating? And you've been known to enjoy a cocktail or two on vacation? Yeah, I had an Airbnb. My friend that's from there stocked the fridge with a whole bunch of organic food for the market. So it was like kale, vegetable, it was like all kinds of this. So I just ate that for like three days.

All right. Do you do anything fun? That was pretty fun. Anything else? Yeah. I walked the city. I went to this, it was this cool ass, Tonga, tango show, tango.

We're like this, it was like a, It was not it. I don't think it was improv, but it was like a dance with a chord in a piano and a singer and these two people were dancing. It was like telling the story. No clue what the fuck anybody was saying, but it was really dope. This was after the experience by drinking some wine, relaxing. It was dope. Nice. Yeah. Good time, man. Love it. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. No doubt, man. I recommend.

I'm interested to see how much that sticks with you, how much that sticks with you, how much. much like you would say, like a year from now, if there's like any, any changes in the way that you think and the way that you perceive things. Yeah, curious to see, like, what the effects are. I'll keep you updated, man. Cool. Well, thank you, Aaron. Appreciate you, buddy. And, yeah, congratulations on also being a better running back through four games than Kenneth Walker. Multi-faceted human, I am, I guess. There you go. I looked it up. That season, Arrian finished with 16 hundred, 16 yards and 16 touchdowns actually. Does Walker go over or under that? I mean, that's a lot of touchdowns. How many does he have?

I don't know touchdowns. Let's see. But just, just yards. Does he finish with 1600? I don't think so. I don't think so. And the reason why is like, yes, he's been great, but Andy Reid also has, there's enough body of evidence with Andy Reid that he is not going to stay committed to a running game, like a traditional running game over the course of a long season. If he's toting it like that, he might. He might catch a ton of passes out of the backfield. And I'm not saying he's not going to have a great season.

I would put him, I would say over 1,200 yards probably. That's a lot of yards, though, 1600. It's a ton. All right. Well, we will see you guys on Thursday. Until then. Love you guys. Goodbye.