Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Behind The Scenes Of Nixon & The Watergate Scandal

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

On today’s episode the guys take a deep dive into the Watergate scandal, the interlocking political scandals of the administration of Richard M. Nixon that were revealed following the arrest of five... burglars at Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate office-apartment-hotel complex in Washington, D.C., on June 17, 1972. Plus the guys get into the Russian coup, Arian signing autographs, Lebron James reading, Journalism and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:02:48 Make the most of every single day. That's my message to myself for the summer. we didn't address this on nanodosing but we should have and just pulled this back up Big T was featured on Nashville Sports Radio 105 The Zone and they said and I quote Big T was a pretty quiet guy
Starting point is 00:03:09 now he's just funny Big T is very funny Big T is now certified stamped by sports radio 104.5 The Zone in Nashville just funny Big T that's a great description for you buddy That was a college classmate of mine. It's actually, Aaron, you played with Ramon Foster, right?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah. So it was, that show is two, a college classmate of Ariens and a college classmate of mine. And they were discussing something about Aryan. Or Ramon Foster said something like, oh, don't bring that up around Aryan on his podcast or whatever, talking about conspiracies or something. and then the other guy Will Bowling was talking about I forget exactly what he said I'd have to go back and listen to the clip
Starting point is 00:03:57 but and then Will Bowling a guy that I went to school with I was like you know I went to school with the other guy I don't think we've ever talked at all but he seemed like a fine enough guy yeah journalism is a small major so like you have pretty much all your classes
Starting point is 00:04:14 with most of the same people so you recognize him even if you don't like hang out with him when did you become When did you transform from a journalist into a journalist hater? I'm not a journalist hater. I'm a bad journalist hater. Okay. But when you were in journalism school, you love journalism, right? I still do when it's done well.
Starting point is 00:04:39 What are your first three stops when you're looking for good journalism? Fair, balanced, and interesting. Yeah, but where do you go? Oh, like publications? Yeah. I mean, I don't have any that I necessarily like read religiously. Let me throw a couple at you. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:02 New York Times. No chance. Daily Beast. Well, that's not journalism. Uh, well, some might say that they've got some good writers there. Uh, yeah, some might. Some might say that. what about what about the new york post um that's not really journalism either that's like
Starting point is 00:05:26 that's kind of more what we do i got you all right daily wire oh good people over there good folks man no that's good stuff no they that's good fair balanced reporting now do you like the daily wire because you think it's good news or because i honestly it makes you feel angry I don't I really don't consume very much Daily Wire stuff to be honest What about the Atlantic? Fake news I think the Atlantic's pretty there's like no journalists Who's a reputable journalist in your eyes?
Starting point is 00:06:04 I mean Tucker The goat He said he's not a journalist though Yeah I don't know I don't like I'll come up with a list by next that was a joke though right yeah i was dicking around okay okay i don't know i i'm there are plenty i don't know that i have a list of like my favorite journalists the new york post once you learn how to properly absorb the new york post for what it is it can be very interesting because they're basically just a headline farm they just they they engineer their headlines in a way
Starting point is 00:06:39 they're like oh yeah this is going to get a million quote tweets because it's such a ridiculous headline and then you dig you scratch like one inch into the article itself and you're like oh yeah this is all just kind of made up uh-huh yeah i thought i thought i thought i thought i didn't know if we if we still had the signal or not no i mean listen the new york post is not anywhere that you should get your news but it is a place that you should get your headlines you know i look at i look in New York Post like what's that what's that tabloid joint
Starting point is 00:07:17 on Men and Black where he goes to it and it's like on the service level it seems like bullshit but they tell a lot of you know what I'm saying they crack a lot of cases
Starting point is 00:07:24 and shit up there that's the New York Post the Inquirer is that what it was called the one that was all on the Bat Boy beat for a while oh yeah no that that's what the New York
Starting point is 00:07:37 that's what Man and Black was imitating but the Inquirer Sasquatch Love Child Yeah Yeah they were on Sasquatch Bat Boy Didn't they break
Starting point is 00:07:49 The Monica Lewinsky's story though That's what I'm saying Yeah Well that was Judge Rodge report Yeah But they've broken a few Like they've broken a few Also who's like that is
Starting point is 00:08:02 Which I have blocked On all social media outlets It's TMZ Like For all the bullshit That they do Every now and then They crack a story
Starting point is 00:08:11 that's really good. They broke the Toby's story. Yeah, unfortunately. Michael Jackson. Was it them? Yeah. The goat, rest of peace. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Did you go ahead, Bill? Did you guys see that Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are really going to start, are really going to fight, get into the cage, Dana White? Like, that's actually a better matchup than I thought it was going to be because it turns out Elon Musk actually trains in
Starting point is 00:08:42 Kung Fu like all sorts of martial arts yeah and he's a big boy too you can throw that weight around but I think I think Zuck he actually trains in like MMA type shit Kung Fu is not like a real
Starting point is 00:08:54 like grappling MMA type fight like no there's like they you know they don't see Kung Fu on the background of any MMA fighter because it's not like a viable MMA a mixed martial art Zuckerberg's been doing a lot of
Starting point is 00:09:10 jiu-jitsu tournaments. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like functional MMA type stuff. But it turns out like it's not like Elon Musk had zero background. Like he's more judo and Taekwondo.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Where are they? So it's going to be a better brawl than I think we think, you know, we thought. Because I thought that it would just be Zuckerberg submitting Elon Musk. They should vet their network. That would be, that would make it interesting. Like, a loser has zero dollars.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That would be sick. It's the most American shit in the world, though, bro. There's two billionaires fighting in a cage match. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, there was a really interesting article I read about that the other day. I forget which publication it was from that Big T. Hates, but it was pretty good. And they were talking about, like, the motives behind Zuckerberg and Elon Musk wanting to do this to each other. And it's interesting because they've both kind of made their living, creating things.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And I guess they own things right now. Like if you look at meta, Facebook or whatever, and then Twitter or X, whatever they're calling that. The two products that they're most known for now are just about making people like further apart mentally. And they are kind of pushing all that to the side and saying, we just want like the human body craves contact. act. We want to just like embrace our animalistic instincts and reject everything that we've done and there are products that we're creating because ultimately they know that their products are not good on a whole for the human brain. And they're pursuing these new martial arts is a way of like admitting that they just want to like, sometimes you just want to be a caveman, get away from technology, step into a ring and wrestle somebody. I thought that's pretty interesting. But I do think, I actually do think that they should do it for all their money. One person becomes by far the richest person in the world, and the other person is a beggar on the streets. Zero dollars to their name and see how quickly they can make it back. That would take it from like no chance in the world I'd watch it to I'd pay pretty good money to watch it.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah. Yeah, I would. That's a fight to the death. No one's going to let anybody win that. That's like someone's going to bite each other's jugular out if they really get in bad shape. Good. Yeah. I would watch that. I'm against gladiator competitions in theory unless it's American gladiators, which is a great show. But if it meant like the two richest people that control all of social media killing each other, one person dies, yes, I would watch that. That's tough though, because then one person is going to control more.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. I mean, who would you rather win? Would you rather Elon owns Facebook or Zuck owns Twitter? Zuck on Twitter. I don't think that's a close phrase. Yeah, it's, so the thing about Zuck, though, is he was like right place, right time, had a good idea, helped to build it out. Then he's kind of, like, lost control over everything. Zuck is about to get sunned by Apple. And Apple's new, like, augmented reality, virtual reality thing,
Starting point is 00:12:29 Apple's going to just eat Meta's lunch when it comes to that. Because Apple puts out a hardware product, everybody's going to buy it. It's probably going to be better. It's going to be more expensive, but it's probably going to be way better. I feel like Zuck is just trying to tread water. He's like happy being where he's at right now. I don't think Zuck is ever going to be included in the same breath as Elon when it comes to like the richest person in the world. Remember during our Facebook episode?
Starting point is 00:12:55 We talked about how basically Facebook became so valuable because the government used it to gather everybody's data. And basically that was the only reason it became so much more success. than other social media apps at the time. So basically, Zuck just was in such the right place at the right time. And Peter Thieland walked up and just made him crowned him the king of social media. Yeah, Peter Thielen. Peter Thiel.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah. Grab Peter Thiel. For the Vikings. Yeah. Wait, did I say Peter Thiel? Yeah, Peter Thiel. It's Peter Thiel. And he's, yeah, dude runs, like, he has everybody's data.
Starting point is 00:13:34 The company that he runs is crazy. Palantir. They are specialists in getting everyone's data from any cell phone technology service and then selling it to the highest bidder. They're very good at that, but they're a company that kind of flies in the radar a little bit. They also put Deadspin out of business. He's the dude that...
Starting point is 00:13:56 Because they leaked... No, he's the dude that funded Hulk Hogan's lawsuit. But that's because they leaked that he was gay. Yeah. which honestly that's a fair grudge to hold yeah they outed him against his wishes and so then he was like okay i'm going to remember that that's the all-time grudge guy oh there's one other thing i wanted to get to do today and that is uh i popped erian's cherry aryan had his first lucy today yeah sorry about that sorry about the way that a phrase that's a wild yeah that's a while
Starting point is 00:14:28 yeah that's a while the phrasing right listen arian i had a short conversation earlier today i borrowed a phrase from Silvio Berlusconi, R-I-P. Yeah, I told him I had something I want to tell him. He was like, are you coming out of the closet? Are you gay? And I said, well, yeah, we're all a little bit gay. It's just my gay side is a lesbian. So that's the ultimate line, man.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Sylvia Berlusconi was such a porn dog. But I did Pop Arients Cherry today, figuratively speaking, with his first Lucy. He had never used nicotine like a nicotine pouch before. So I gave him a Lucy out of the golf course today. And he was buzzing. He was swimming. It was great to see. He was just, like, bouncing around, big smile on his face.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It was fun, man. It's a cool alternative because usually when I'm feeling good with drinks, like I'll hit a black of my, like that would be usually my thing. But I hit a, I had to Lucy, it was what it was. And it just gets you that extra little, you know what I mean? It sure felt good, man. I had to throw that shit out for like 20 minutes, though, because it was too much.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Like, I didn't want to go full scale. faded, you know what I mean? I love introducing arian to white culture. It's fantastic. That's white there? I didn't know that's white. No, it's just, you know, bros. Like, Billy loves the nicotine
Starting point is 00:15:45 salts. Billy can't get enough of it. I do, you know what, though? If I'm going to smoke something and it's tobacco, black and milds are pretty fucking good. I used to smoke black and milds like every weekend. And the wood tip,
Starting point is 00:16:01 wood tips are great. That's the only way to go. Cherry vanilla. Hold on. Hold on. Let's just preface this. They're dog shit. They're horrible. And if I die, that'll have probably something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So don't, I'm not advertising to smoke any kind of tobacco. That's just ass. And that's why you should use Lucy. It's a bad, it's an old bad habit that I picked up in when I was a kid. But the wine black and mottes are pretty good. No, I like, yeah, like, I like, I like, I, enjoy it like so I'm not I don't I'm not gonna like smoke a pack a day or like I'll smoke like once every three four months I'll smoke a blacker just one night I get out hit one well
Starting point is 00:16:42 but I'm not like I'm not advocating for that shit don't don't don't get cancer bro yeah yeah Aaron Aaron having his first lucy today was a lot like big tea smoking his first cigar with a that's so my favorite sound effect yeah what a bangor I made off of that though I don't get to credit. I didn't get him of my flowers, man. That was a banged, though. We got to re-release that. It's a good video, too.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Can we add in the music that, that Arian made using Big T. Cracking the lighter and his cough afterwards. Can we put that music in right here? I'll send it to you right now. Fire. Such a banger. Such a bagger.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But yeah, besides that, anything else we want to get into today before Watergate? Big T, you teet off about anything? Not that I can think of off the top of my head. We're not going to see each other for a minute. Yeah, we're not. It's going to be set. What about you, Matt, Dog? Are you made off about anything?
Starting point is 00:17:59 Hmm, am I made off about anything? Um, right now I'm remembering how annoying it is to move and find an apartment. I'm trying to find a place right now in Chicago. And it's just a really frustrating process. It is. And I'm really made off about that because it's like kind of coming up and I'm trying not to get stressed about it, but it's like one of those things. I was in Chicago this weekend looking at apartments.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Didn't really like find the one. So then I feel like I kind of just like wasted two days. so if anybody has just like a beautiful huge sweeping apartment that they're looking to sub-lease out to me for about a year for maybe like $300, $400 a month I'd be like very willing to take over that space for you I would keep it very nice but yeah no It's much better than New York though
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's so much better than New York It's just a frustrating process like overall And like moving from here to Chicago like I'm trying to figure out what to do with all my shit and yeah that's like kind of all I'm made off I'm excited I have another Taylor Swift concert this weekend
Starting point is 00:19:03 so I'm excited about that Oh wow I'm double dipping You're one of those freaks Yeah I'm a freak about it Yes I'm very excited I'm gonna be in Cincinnati Ariens been muted he's been saying
Starting point is 00:19:17 Isn't it gonna be Ain't it going to be the same show Yeah exact same show No not exact same show because there's to be Different There are two songs that are different Yeah I'm so excited, though.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That's an avid fan right there, yo. But, yeah, and I'm going with two different, like, I'm going with different people that I went to the first show with. So it's, like, a fun experience to go with different people. I'd go every night if I'd go. You know how they say, like, they always ask guys, what's your dream for some for golf? Like, if you were to go out, play golf with three other people.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Matt Dogg, what's your dream for some for going to a Taylor Swift concert? Like, do I go with, like, to sit with? Yeah, anybody. anybody could be anybody in the world oh like famous people yeah famous people count okay gea mariano who works with us and his friend's little sister uh i went to new york with her she's like uh kelly keeks would also be there um okay
Starting point is 00:20:12 so those two you're really kind of blowing this assignment no because you can go with these people anyway you have it's true but but like but like those are the people it's your wildest dreams yeah it is my wildest dreams to go to like i love them and i would well like we like those are the people that I care about Taylor Swift with like those are the people I wouldn't want to go to four strangers you know what I mean that wouldn't be as fun I wouldn't know them um and then my other two people would probably be hmm um octopus lover eight from TikTok if you guys know who he is um okay um if you don't know who that is and then do you guys know who that is yes yeah you do it's kind of falling oh for sure world the t-shirts no not no no no no no I am so anti-world of T-shirts. And then...
Starting point is 00:20:59 We don't support that. No, I feel bad for him. I think he's getting taken advantage of. And then my fourth one would probably be, ooh. Maybe like her... Maybe like Gigi Hadid, because that's like her best friend. And then I would know, like, secrets. Like, oh, she'd be like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Like, she, like, almost, like, didn't put this in the set list. But, like, so-and-so made her do it. And then I would, like, get, like, tea from her, like, on that. That, Mad Dogg really fucked that up. That was bad. Who would you... And you picked four and you're only... you only get to pick three.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Oh, that was three. You're the fourth. Oh, okay. Well, then take Gigi off that list. So it's just your friends that you could go with this. And then Octopus Lover 8. And then posy and then a guy off TikTok. But like, no, like the whole point of a Taylor Swift concert.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And again, I'm going to, I'm also, everyone knows I'm bad at drafts here, too. Like, I want to go to a Taylor Swift concert with people who also, like, like, I can be fully myself and, like, fully excited with. Like, if I went with, like, I don't know, Harry Styles to a Taylor's concert, like, me and him, going to have a great time, but, like, him and I, I wouldn't be able to, like, freak out with him. Or, like, when I'm with Gia, Gia and I know each other's, like, number one surprise songs. Like, I can freak out with her. Like, that's who I want to go with. Who would you pick PFT? I would go, uh, Yvgeny Peroskin, the head of Wagner. And I would, I would give him a lot of artillery, stage of coup. Uh, speaking that, Billy,
Starting point is 00:22:21 is there anything that you'd like to clean up from your previous Russia statements about the attempted coup So a lot of people are saying that the planes definitely got shot down that Wagner definitely shot down a bunch of planes but like we literally have seen zero
Starting point is 00:22:41 like there's no evidence of that besides them saying. Okay but okay but Bill you were also saying that this was a big sciop that Putin and Prozgev were staging together and there's been a lot of more information that's come out where it's like no Wagner was actually like trying to kidnap some generals and take over the entire military since then.
Starting point is 00:23:01 No, no, that I all mentioned, but they literally was just kidnapping the generals that were, that might have been part of the coup. Oh, so he was, he was defending, he was secretly defending the entire time. I mean, it's like, film me, film me, I know it's going to 1,000% over there in Russia. Yeah, for those that don't, let them know what's actually going on and the news. that came out. Oh, well, Billy is a Putin sim. So, so let's, so I'm not a fucking Putin sim, dude. Wait, so this is the equivalent. So Papa John Schnauter, uh, John Schnaudder, uh, John Schnauder, Papa John's. Let's say he got in charge of, uh, a private military group.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Mm-hmm. And was best friends with Donald Trump. And, and then Donald Trump, like, would say, sent Papa John Schnaudder to fight all his wars. And then one day Papa John Schnauder said, hey, Donald Trump, you're not supporting me enough. I'm going to march on Washington, D.C. And that's basically what happened, because Putin's favorite chef became the head
Starting point is 00:24:12 of a gigantic private army that's just been wreaking havoc all across the globe. Okay. But the way that they were phrasing it earlier was that Papa John was secretly in cahoots with Donald Trump the entire time and Hezzi gave a Hezzy hay invasion to Washington, D.C. Everybody freaked out and then meanwhile with Trump,
Starting point is 00:24:36 Papa John then went to Arizona and took over the voting machines. Yep. Okay. So that's what we're sticking with. No, we don't know the, because basically why is he still alive? Why did they let, so they went to Belarus to sort it out.
Starting point is 00:24:55 He might have worked that deal. He left Belarus alive. Like if that actually had happened, if he'd actually caused a coup, that guy would be dead within the week. Unless Putin isn't as powerful as he wants people to think that he is. But think about it. If you're Putin and you started this war in Ukraine
Starting point is 00:25:12 and it's lasted like a year and a half and you haven't done shit and everybody's getting killed and you're going to have to institute a draft to get conscripted soldiers instead of a volunteer army to fight, you probably, your backs against the wall. yeah but the only counter to that is that they did like Wagner was like we're not we you know we're not getting enough support that we should have and then during that exact time they took Bachmute and which was a major like reversal so we we you know it might be like one of those things where in the UFC where a fighter will pretend he's hurt to let another fighter try to come in and finish. him and then just catch him
Starting point is 00:25:56 on his way in while he thinks that he's going for the kill. Okay, so you think that this is a big, like, psych out, and then Ukraine's going to invade Russia, and then they're going to knock Ukraine out. Yeah, just overextend their forces. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And where are your sources on this one, Billy? Not great ones. I've been reached just like different types of Twitter threads, Reddit threads pieces but the thing is
Starting point is 00:26:25 at the same time if you wanted to get the Russian people to get farther behind the war you'd try to create a situation where Ukraine invades
Starting point is 00:26:34 over extends their forces gets greater you know a support from domestic groups and the average guy who doesn't want to go to Ukraine but will fight at home
Starting point is 00:26:47 against Ukrainians in Russia the old Ropado is what you're saying Yeah. Fact or fiction, most of your sources on this come from Twitter threads with blue check marks that are like crypto influencers that have a couple of million followers in the Bitcoin space. And they host these spaces on Twitter that people can listen to, but they don't really have any subject matter expertise of their own. No, I mean, I do read articles. You can read stuff in the Atlantic. There's different, like I do actually read articles.
Starting point is 00:27:19 like foreign affairs like I still have a subscription there but you also listen to the Bitcoin Twitter spaces not the Bitcoin Twitter spaces more geopolitical tweeters well no it's it's people that are tweeting about geopolitical events and outcomes that also
Starting point is 00:27:37 happen to be Bitcoin peddlers oh so you're saying that they want worst case scenario so Bitcoin goes up no I'm just saying that the people that are generally like Bitcoin influencers are not nearly as smart as I think they are. Right. I mean, this is just one theory because the main, like everyone knows about what has happened from what's been put out. Because if you look at a lot of the video and content coming
Starting point is 00:28:01 out of it, it's just like very, Donnie and I were talking about this on Monday. It's very like weird how, you know, there was a coup, but no, no fighting actually happened. Yeah, they're bloodless coups sometimes. I think Myanmar was an example of that, right? wait wasn't that wasn't that the wasn't there a massacre involved um are you talking about I don't know maybe I'm getting my country's mixed up
Starting point is 00:28:29 there was a bloodless kid a couple years ago where you remember there was a lady that was like stretching in front of the the parliament or whatever she was doing like a yoga video and then there's just tanks in the background rolling into the city yeah no I'm no expert but I'm just like like saying what I read and like hey that that's That's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, Billy's no expert, but he does read a lot of people who say that they're experts. I actually read from experts too. Okay. So. Checkmate. Listen. I can't, I can't name them, but they're in publications. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I also tend to be a skeptic about a lot of things, including Billy. So I'm not saying that the general story that you're hearing is 100% correct because chances are it's not, but I'm also saying that what Billy's saying is probably not. not 100% accurate. Well, it's just crazy that the whole thing lasted, like, a day and a half. They got 200 kilometers from Moscow, and they just said, okay, we're not, we're, we're turning, like, we're not going to actually do anything. Yeah, psych. Not, if I'm not.
Starting point is 00:29:40 What do you think is actually happening? No, no, I mean, it's either what they're trying to project as, why would the Russian state media push that they are weak right now? Like, that's never occurred on purpose from Russia. So I think the most logical explanation is that, and it's not the state media necessarily that's pushing that. That's like international experts that study this shit that are talking about how weak they are.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But in the event that Russian state media does show signs of weakness in terms of like saying everything that Putin is doing is going well, it's because in Russia, you have to go along to get along a little bit. And if power starts to shift to somebody else, you definitely want to be known as being a person that's on the side of the new powerful people that are coming into the regime. By the way, also, we really shouldn't be rooting. Like, if Putin goes down and this dude becomes the next Putin,
Starting point is 00:30:37 this guy is so much worse than Putin. Oh, no, I agree. This guy's a piece of shit. This guy is a fucking psycho warlord. Yeah. and there's a bunch of nukes that are out there in Russia just frifting around they had control of them at one point
Starting point is 00:30:55 so we're told yeah right so we're told but like if what if what was true was true and that the Wagner group had taken over the southern military state and were marching to Russia and had taken over that whole apparatus they had control of nuke so it was for the first time I don't think we want to like say this but like for the first time ever a non-nuclear power had nuclear powers yeah also it
Starting point is 00:31:24 kind of gives credence to my theory that these countries don't have as many nukes as they say they have true like during the cold war i think that there was a lot of you know puffing your chest out since it was all about like deterrence and mutually assured destruction saying that you had a shitload of nukes was almost better than just building the nukes because is you can just say, oh, yeah, we got 5,000 new nuclear warheads. And then the other country has to be like, oh, fuck, they've got so much more than we do. And then they can just lie and say they have more. I'm a truther.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm a nuclear weapons truther. How many nukes do you have in your backyard? Three. I got three of them back there, my driver, my three would, my five would. Nice. Yeah. Just a recap here, because I know I addressed this last week, I want to make sure that I'm presenting both sides of an argument
Starting point is 00:32:17 so that we're not fake news this hotel room does have body lotion in it so we're back we're back some hotels still carry it they keep that thing on them I don't think they ever left man I think that's like the most essential shit that they have I used to think
Starting point is 00:32:33 why do they even have that lotion that's the whiteest shit you can price yeah I'm sorry I'm showing my complexion your privilege That's my privilege. No, my complexion.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Arian, are you eight off about anything? I'm chilling, man. I'm in a really good place in my life. I'm happy, you know, people are good. I'm telling, bro. Aaron got autographed hawk today. That's true.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Somebody rolled up with, like, pictures of him, like a stack of pictures of him from the University of to see and they're like can you sign all these and he was so polite i thought about fucking them up and just like rolling down the window and saying man james you really make people think that you're erring foster a lot don't you so for people that don't know like there'll be people like this a lot of times we had security like outside hotels or like when you roll with teams there'll be people who be sitting there with pictures of you to sign and what they'll do is they'll get you to sign and they'll sell them and so it happens all the time
Starting point is 00:33:44 I haven't seen it for a while But a lot of times They'll get their kids to do it So they make you feel bad about not signing it But they're the same picture Same thing And they're like, come on man It's for my son
Starting point is 00:33:54 My son's right here And he's like, please And you're like, no, I'm good I haven't seen this in a while This lady rolled up with her daughter And I'm sure they were just massive University of Tennessee fans I hadn't seen it in a while
Starting point is 00:34:07 And so they showed up And I just signed it as I was chilling It's all good Was it one or like a bunch that was like four three or four it was actually kind of cool because I haven't seen those pictures
Starting point is 00:34:19 in a long time they were really good pictures so interesting that's usually what I do they usually have a bunch of them I should I just have you got an extra
Starting point is 00:34:29 yeah they're ready to go do you think your Tennessee autographed pictures sell more or your Texans autographed pictures I don't even know that they would honestly bro I don't know
Starting point is 00:34:42 anybody that would buy it. But apparently there is. I don't know. I don't know what the market for that shit is. I have no idea, man. I'm not like a... A 2014 limited auto, gold Aryan Foster, Houston Texans
Starting point is 00:34:58 patch autograph card goes for $60 on eBay right now. That feels kind of light, honestly. No, that did. That's kind of disrespectful. How's it disrespectful? My name on a piece of paper is worth money, that's pretty cool. That's pretty
Starting point is 00:35:13 cool. A 16 by 20 picture, you can get for 30. Wait, but are they actually signed? Yeah. Like, definitely signed? I mean, yeah, it looks like it. Have I ever asked you about your autograph? Like, if you practiced your autograph?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Oh, I got in trouble for that shit. Absolutely. It was part of me willing my success into existence. When I was a kid, there was a, there was a, running back by the name of Barry Foster. He used to pay for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And so it was dope seeing somebody with my last name. And so when I was in second grade, I used to sign all my papers, Barry Foster.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And my teacher was like, why are you putting this? I was like, I explained to her. And she was like, it's, you know, it's okay to drink. And I was like, I'm going to be in the NFL one day. So I want to, you know, he was like looking up to him. It was really tough. I got a chance to it. He was on the sideline one time of one of our games.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I don't even remember which one. He comes up to me, because I don't need you. I couldn't even tell him what it looks like today. He comes up to me. He was going on with Barry Foster. I was like, yeah. I was like, bro, I used to sign my fucking second grade papers after you, man. You gave me a lot of inspiration.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He was like, that's crazy. But so after I got over to Barry Foster Day, I would just all day, like, doodle and practice my signature. Doodle and practice my signature. And then when I went to Tennessee, I got in trouble all the time because I would write it on things. I don't know why I did this, but I wrote it on things. Like I wrote it on desks, elevators, whatever. I would just sign anything. I would just write my name everyone.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And so you get caught for that pretty easily. Huh? You get caught for that pretty easily. Who wrote Ari and Fosser all over this one? Literally my name. Yeah. But I mean, my signature ain't really like, if I have a pin here,
Starting point is 00:37:01 my signatures ain't really like, you can't really tell. It's just like a big A with squiggly and an F with a squiggly. Yeah. It's pretty savage, but it's nothing like, there's some beautiful signature. I think we did that before.
Starting point is 00:37:12 we went over like really dope signatures some people have great pinmen like my mom my mom has the weirdest fucking talent I've ever seen in my life my mom can forge any signature if you write your signature down give her like
Starting point is 00:37:28 two three minutes she can forge that shit and it looks just like it's fucking weird on top of that she can write cursive backwards that's wild Whoa.
Starting point is 00:37:43 She can write cursive, backwards, and upside down. So when I was growing up, she used to write my dad letters in the mirror, cursive, so he would have to hold it up to a mirror and try to see what it was, which is a fucking test. It's just you curse of backwards cursive, and she'll do it upside down. Your mother's a secret agent. Your mother's undercover. She might be part of the, yeah, I don't know, but it's like the wildest talent I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I was, I'm like, well, how do you learn this? It just makes sense to me. And this is just how her brain is wired. And she has beautiful penmanship. Like she writes beautifully. But it's like backwards and she can write backwards upside down. It's wild. The whole shit is wild.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Backwards upside down. And cursive. Yeah. Backwards upside down cursive. Do kids learn cursive anymore? I don't think my kids do. I think some places have stopped doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Mad Dogg, did you learn cursive? Oh, yeah, for sure. I learned cursive. We had a whole, they were like, this is very important that you learn this. I could only write in cursive. Like, I wasn't allowed to write in print. It was like second or third grade maybe. Third to like sixth grade, I was only allowed to write in cursive.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I couldn't use print. That's crazy. Yeah. I had a teacher in high school that made us do every assignment in cursive, which is just insane. That's bullshit. For high school. So I dropped that class after two, after two days. I was like, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm out. Yeah. That's the most ridiculous thing ever. Cursive is probably extinct now, I would imagine That was like the most annoying part on the SAT Was like finishing it And then you had to write like the agreement all in cursive I was like the rest of this was fine
Starting point is 00:39:21 I just don't want to write cursive I forgot about that part It's letters but fancy Did you guys have to use Like we had to do cursive and then We were only allowed to use eraseable pens What? Oh yeah Those were sick
Starting point is 00:39:36 Those erascible pens Yeah like I couldn't use a normal normal like big like normal pen i had to use an eraseable pen up until high school that's just a power trip yeah but the erase so the eraseable pens had those like tribal tattoos on them i do remember what they're talking about yeah gonna hear some erie shit yeah so i was going through my who was at my grandma's house a long long i was like probably when i was in college who was at my grandma's house in Las Vegas, New Mexico
Starting point is 00:40:07 and going through like, oh shit. My mother had a brother named Joel who died in a car crash when he was 18 years old. R. Peter Joe, so it would have been my uncle. So I'm going through a, we're just going to do a whole bunch of of a day, oh shit. I'm looking through these notebooks.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And I'm like, what the fuck is this? It looks just like my handwriting. And I'm like, Mom, who is this? She's like, that's Joe. I was like, dog, this is my, it looks exactly like my handwriting. I'm like, she's like, no. And so I write, like something just about, she was freaked out. It was the crazy shit where the dude wrote just like him since he was first,
Starting point is 00:40:47 but it was a wildest shit I've ever seen. That is crazy. Yeah. Nature determines a lot. Genetics definitely, it definitely affects handwriting, for sure. Has it really? I mean, it's got to. I know that my writing and my brothers is very, very similar.
Starting point is 00:41:08 My writing and my cousins are very similarly bad. Yeah, my writing was shit. This is why I noticed it so fast. Big T, did you ever practice your signature? I think I remember at one point I was like, I want to have a cool signature and like tried some. and like not thinking I was going to be a professional athlete
Starting point is 00:41:33 or anything I just wanted to have a cool one and then I eventually settled on one that's pretty shitty your signature should just be the letter T so a couple people have asked like us to all sign stuff and so I've tried coming up with a signature for big T
Starting point is 00:41:51 and like at one point I was like I'll just do a big T but that looks dumb as fuck no that's cool so then at one point I did it like a huge t and i wrote like big and little letters next to it but that doesn't look very good either so i still haven't come up with a good one for big t i got a good one i i've figured out something cool because if i sign my real name people are me like who the fuck signed this uh put b next to a big t and g next to the t so then it's just like the i is sort of in the t
Starting point is 00:42:22 i see what you did there yeah i i actually yours though what you've come up with is is good yeah just a so i write billy with my y tailing off back to the b and then i put uh i put laces in the curve of the y so it looks like a football that's good i like that a lot uh did one of the pictures you signed happened to be um of you jumping over a pile against louisiana lafayette actually I remember him actually might have been I don't know I don't think this picture
Starting point is 00:43:06 can you see that oh no no no it was no it was I think it was playing I can almost remember the games we was playing Memphis in one and I believe Notre Dame and the other because that one's on eBay for 80 bucks so I was I was hoping that that person hadn't already sold that
Starting point is 00:43:28 Aaron, have you ever thought about just signing a bunch of old pictures of yourself and just making, like, $500 in a day for yourself? I wonder if any athlete does that, if they just, like, sit at home and do it, like, cut out the middleman. I'm just going to sign a bunch of pictures, put them up on eBay, just rake in the funds. What is this dude's name, bro? Where's my phone? Maybe y'all know, or maybe I got trolled. Hold on. okay
Starting point is 00:43:59 Jose Canseco yeah Pete Rose would do that probably it's a bad day at the track OJ Danna Danna Dunn Pump
Starting point is 00:44:13 Who's that I don't know I got my number and he's like Hey do you know who I am I'm Dana Pump I have no idea who you are He's just some rich dude
Starting point is 00:44:27 And he's like, well, check me out on IG. And, and then I'm going to call you back. That's okay. And he didn't, he didn't link his IG. He just text me, Dana Pump, IG. Mm-hmm. And this is like yesterday's go. So I look at his IG, and he's just a dude that just take a bunch of pictures
Starting point is 00:44:49 with a bunch of celebrities on boats and shit. I still don't know what he does. And then he takes me his number. he texted me his number from his number with his name it's like super boomer shit right but he was like hey
Starting point is 00:45:07 do you have jerseys game one jerseys and I was like yeah he's like yeah but the game one though you know I don't want to just have like stop like bro I wore swap with the cats that I play with and so he goes over all these people and he was like do you have any
Starting point is 00:45:21 quarterbacks elite quarterbacks from that era I was like, oh, not really. They was kind of telling you about that. So I got Andrew Luck. He said, I said, I said, Lee. First of all, who fuck is you? Second, he was elite.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Andrew Luck was Lee. He just couldn't stay healthy. But so randomly, he was just like, he's interested in buying some of these jerseys. And so he was like, all right. And I was like, well, how much do you have? I don't know. So I just sent him the video of that video that went viral.
Starting point is 00:45:52 He's like, all right, I'm going to get back to you. you with an offer. I said, okay. So we see, we won't see what he's talking about. There was a random shit in the world. For the whole collection or for a few of them? I don't know what he said what he's talking about. I'm sure he's not interested in my Shane Leckler jersey, so we'll see. Do Shane Lechler was,
Starting point is 00:46:10 he's the greatest partner of all time, but like how many people was trying to get punt in his jerseys? But how much would you sell it all for if you had to? If, like, what would make you be like, okay, I'll give them all away for this amount? probably over M That's a lot A lot of money
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah I don't expect him to be like two I probably got like 15 to 20 Hall of Fame jerseys that I played against Like that one game porn jerseys Like you have an LT? No I don't know I lost that I think I lost that in the flood I did have LT
Starting point is 00:46:51 But that was a Jets one anyway but still LT um i have ray lewis i've got uh shit i don't have to go back through that video i got like champ bailey charles woodson uh lehion mccoy jamaul charles rake rice agent peterson um i got uh duite freeney uh i got a whole bunch man i got i got a double check i can go through it real quick. I like that. Start at a million dollars. Make him come up to you. Yeah, but it's like, I'm not, I'm not thirsty for bread.
Starting point is 00:47:31 So if he's not coming up over there, there's just no, for what? I bet you could tell three. Denarius Thomas. R.I.P. A.J. Green, Cam Newton, Mike Evans, Glover Quinn, Shaw Jones, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Tony Gonzalez. Goat. Tony. Tony Gonzalez. Troy Palomalu. Marshaun Lynch, Chris Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, J.J. White, Frank Gore,
Starting point is 00:48:07 Jamal Charles, Brian Erlacker, Jason Whitten, Richard Sherman, Ray Lewis, Dwight Freeney, Charles Woodson, and then a random James Hardin one out there. I bet you could sell that for $3 million. Yes, that's a good collection. James Armstrong won Does that game worn Still have glitter on it? That would go for a pretty penny.
Starting point is 00:48:32 You could probably find some DNA on that too. Oh my God. Actually, like that game That game won jersey from James Hardin is, it was from the Christmas, one of his Christmas games. So he played on Christmas. No.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I bet you could get a good amount of money for those jerseys, especially if you said, like, not only are the jerseys that are game-worn from a Hall of Fame player, but also it's by way of being given to Arian Foster. That probably adds value to the jersey. Like Arian Foster once owned this jersey. Their sign. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 That's a good deal. Aaron, I don't want to bum me out, but I do think that we should ask for just like your reaction to the news that came out yesterday. about Ryan Mallet. Oh, yeah. So did you play with him? Yeah, play with him. It was a super cool dude, man.
Starting point is 00:49:34 It's sad. From what I heard, I think he drowned or something like that. I don't like to get into the details, but. Yeah, I heard it was in Destin, Florida. Might have been a riptide. I don't know. There's nothing that you can read more into it besides the bottom line, which is that he did drown, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But I thought about you yesterday. I was like, I bet I bet Arian knew the guy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, anytime you hear about it's never a good day, like, and as we age, those days come more and more. So you really just learn to like appreciate life. It's crazy to see, like, somebody that you bumped, you know, spent time with, had some laughs, some jokes with us, and everybody has dealt with death in a certain capacity. And it's no longer here. It just puts things in perspective to just really, it's why I live carefree, man, because when you deal with death in any capacity.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You can take it one or two ways. It can like, you could consume you or you could just really, you know, appreciate the journey of, you know, everybody's, everybody's on. And we're all a part of it. Nobody really knows what we're doing. We just wake up and they say, go make money. Basically life and adventure. And so I'm just really appreciative to have known him.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You know, he was a cool dude. I ain't never had no problems with him. It was a good dude, funny dude. Yeah, it's sad. have you know condolences to him and his family man um but this is always a sad situation yeah i i didn't mean i didn't mean a blind side i do with that i probably should ask you earlier if you want to talk about it but i just remembered right now i was like okay let's might might as well check in with the area on it but um yeah i mean and also just a hell
Starting point is 00:51:08 of an arm too like he that could throw a fucking football he he gun slinger gun slinger all right well yeah r p ryan mallet um not really much else to say about just a sad day sad day anytime you read about anybody like that Arkansas legend yep Arkansas legend um bill are you beat off about anything yeah I uh I got beat off I'm kind of uh what am I beat off about 6.2 billion dollars getting like uh unassigned in the Pentagon on. Okay. So, all right, let's dive into it because I have not read anything past the headline in that. Have you read anything past the headline? Yeah, I was beat off about it until I realized that basically they made a evaluation era.
Starting point is 00:52:04 It was more of like they didn't, they underestimated the cost of some of the stuff they sent. And in turn, they had to end up either paying more for it or the stuff got appraised for more money. so it is still wild that we can have some sort of an accounting error that ends up at 6.2 billion
Starting point is 00:52:28 yeah it's just kind of like what yeah but I'm glad that we dug a little bit past the headline on that one
Starting point is 00:52:36 that's progress thank you that's another that's another one that's easy to see like a tweet about and get furious
Starting point is 00:52:43 and then assume something and then you read a little bit into it you're like okay it's not
Starting point is 00:52:47 exactly what they say still bad, but not exactly what they led me to believe. A lot of great bear videos came out. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. For the people that don't know what you're talking about, you know, I feel like we should get some context behind the whole $6 billion thing.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So apparently the Pentagon made a $6.2 billion accounting era regarding sending funds to Ukraine, but I think it was because they sent a certain, amount of military hardware that they were meaning to send, but they realized that that hardware actually cost a different amount than they had put into the bill. Okay. Yeah, the Pentagon founded, it overestimated the amount of funding for ammunition missiles and other equipment that it sent to Ukraine by $6.2 billion
Starting point is 00:53:39 due to an accounting error. The value of the accounting error was revised up from $3 billion that was first reported. The result of the signing a higher than warranted value on U.S. weaponry shipped to the Ukraine. Additional funding was uncovered. The 6.2 was in the fiscal year 2022 budget. So that's a tough accounting error. Like you're not a very good account if you fuck up $6.2 billion worth of something. And it wasn't used to bribe Wagner to turn against Putin.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It wasn't liquid. It wasn't liquid. Okay. So as a result, the department now has additional money in its coffers to support Ukraine. So it actually was like, we got, we have more money than we thought. That's, that's what, that's what you're saying. So that's, that's going to freeze up funds to give them more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So it's a $6.2 billion accounting. To be clear, it is a $6.2 billion accounting error, which is egregious. But the net result of it is that we have more money than we thought that we did in our defense department. So if you are against the military industrial complex, or at least in favor of keeping closer eye on it, this definitely is something that should make you mad and be like, oh, shit, yeah, this might not have been an error. We just want more money being routed to our military. So it's not really that, I mean, they send it to Ukraine. So Ukraine has more money, not us. My understanding is that the Pentagon has more money.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I don't believe that's accurate. The detailed review of the accounting error found that the military services used replacement costs rather than the book value of equipment that was pulled from Pentagon stocks and sent to Ukraine. She said final calculations show that there was an error of $3.6 billion in the current fiscal year and $2.6 billion in 2022 fiscal year. As a result, the department now has additional money in its coffers to use. So basically, we ship them. Yes, and they're giving it to Ukraine. So we shipped them new equipment at the cost of used equipment. It's like if you sold a 2003 Chevy Silverado for the 2021 price.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So you sold somebody a car. If you run a car lot and you sell it to them at like, I don't know, let's say $40,000 as opposed to $54,000. So Ukraine got a good deal on brand new weapons. it sounds like, but we've already authorized a certain amount of the money that our defense department will still have to use in its budget somehow. So it sounds like Ukraine just got a great deal. But my understanding is they're sending Ukraine the extra money also. Oh, I don't know if that's true or not because in this article it says that it was going to remain in the coffers. But what if Ukraine, what if there was no war and Ukraine just got a bunch of this brand new gear and then they turn around, they flip.
Starting point is 00:56:43 it make a profit. How about that? That would be money in the bank for them. I think they were doing that for years. It's going to go back into the pot of money that we have allocated for the future Pentagon stock drawdowns. Okay. So I don't know what that pot of money looks like.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I'm going to be honest. But the net the net result of it is that we didn't, there's not like $6.2 billion that's floating around somewhere overseas that we don't know about. which is what the article or the headline look at the headline yeah the headline definitely looks like that yeah so this is this will be a recurring segment on the show we dig in just a tiny bit to a headline that makes us mad yeah when i said that when you asked me if i was beat off about something i didn't want to say no because that would mean i might have not brought an assignment to come play so i just pull stuff out of my hat yeah billy i bet in school was really good at that
Starting point is 00:57:43 oh yeah so you don't read a book and then they ask you for your thoughts about like the character exposition of the the male character of it like the protagonist and you're like um he's a very complicated man and through learning about the world he learns about himself i know he may seem like very basic at face value but i think there are much bigger underlying themes to what he actually means to do yeah and when he seems to be complex i think that's actually where he seems more basic. Yeah. Do you y'all see that Twitter thread?
Starting point is 00:58:18 You all see that Twitter thread that had like dropped the best battles of all time? And one of them was LeBron James versus the first page. Yeah. It's just about reading the first page of the book like, just read the book, dog. You've seen the, you've seen the clip of someone asks him because one of them was Malcolm X's autobiography that he walked into the arena with. That was the only book I've seen in his hand.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And it was like, for months. And someone asked him, you know, what, or it was the godfather. The godfather, someone asked him what his favorite part of the godfather was because he was reading it. No, no, no. It may have been both.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I don't know. They may have done both. Yeah, I definitely saw the answer to Malcolm X because that shit was fucking glad. Okay, so maybe he did both because I remember, I think both, but he, both times he just says like, oh, there's so many, like, with Malcolm X, like he was a brilliant man, a great man.
Starting point is 00:59:17 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you probably can't say it. But he goes, he goes, oh, I remember what he said. Malcolm X are just, you know, it's just a great man and just a very, very, very good teacher and just really got us to understand how powerful the Negro is. And I'm like, what are you talking about, man? This is not 1960, though. Obviously, it's not rich a book. I'm a LeBron James fan.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But that's just wild, dog. Like, just read the book. It's a great book. I've read the book. Great book. Could have brought up Detroit Red. His Radd's the Richardson story. You can brought a whole bunch of shit.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You landed on he made the Negro powerful. Well, it would have helped if he read it. He didn't read the book. Of course. But just say that, though. Like, bro, you want of the richest men in the world, more powerful men in the world. Just be honest. we'll be like, you know what, I'm only, I've only got past the first page, I'm busy.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I got a lot of shit going on, but I'm interested in reading it. Well, he's, like, kind of obsessed with lying for no reason. Is he bad like that? Oh, have you not see, you need to look up like LeBron James lying compilation? It's hilarious. It is very funny. Like, he says he claims he knew the night that Kobe scored 81. He was like, when he got to 25, I told my friends, like, he's going to score 70 tonight.
Starting point is 01:00:38 and like he talks about one time he said when uh forgive me which member of the Migos died take off when take off tragically passed away LeBron said that he was showing his teammates
Starting point is 01:00:56 like he was like oh I'm telling y'all these guys are next up like these guys are crazy and whatever year he said it was like they hadn't even come out with an album yet it was 2016 I think he said 2015 and Bricks But it was like But the song was Bricks
Starting point is 01:01:12 He was like yeah I was showing my my friend's bricks back in like 2012 Yeah he's just like He lies about a whole bunch of shit For no reason at all So I All right It's gonna it's gonna like pick me energy
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like that kind of about I I like LeBron James more than most Most people do I mean I still think he's hilarious Because of some of the stuff that he does He's very like Overdramatic about
Starting point is 01:01:37 He's a drama kid basically um but the the lying stuff i think he does that because he feels a sense of responsibility to have to comment about so many things because people ask him to comment on you know any news pop culture current event because he's such a big name and such a big presence that they want to get his thoughts on things because they know that if you're in the media you get lebron james to comment on takeoff or something like that and boom you've got an article right there it's already written for you he gets asked to comment on a lot of And he has a very hard time saying, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I feel like he feels a need to, like, to give his take on things and to be, like, a big spoken force in the media about just about anything that they ask. He needs to learn when to just say, like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm LeBron James. Or, like, like, Aaron said, like, I'm kind of busy. Or if you want to stay involved, because that might be it, too. And a lot of these entertainers, like, they've got to be in a mix, right?
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's like a social club, you know what I'm saying? Like, they like that shit. I don't know if that's his vibe, but that's, I feel I get from it. You can hire a research assistant to comment on any social issue and say, hey, listen, I need you to give me what key points. I need to say what this book is about. Yo, so-and-so, Dodd, I need to give me some pointers about this. Hey, there's something going on in China. I need to know what is going on.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And you could, you hire a research system, paying them 60 grand a year, 70 grand a year. That's what they do is just give you the shit that you want. Like, just like Tiger, stop driving cars. Pay somebody to drive your fucking car, bro. They got the longest bread of any athletes. I don't get it. I don't get it, though. My bread ain't that.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I'm very happy, very comfortable. But if I had their bread, I'm not slipping. I'm looking at some of LeBron's lies. And the thing, I was looking at that thread, I don't think, I don't think some of them are lies. Like, what would you categorize them as? He lied to a Liverpool player about watching soccer. Like, I don't watch soccer, but if a soccer player said, oh, do you watch soccer? I'll be like, yeah, I watched, you know, America in the World Cup.
Starting point is 01:03:57 You know, sometimes this Irish bar I'm at, there's soccer on. Like, technically I've watched soccer, but us, like, holding him face value to that is, pretty like well as a liar you feel the need to stand up for your fellow liar that's what i'm getting from no but the thing is some of these aren't like like are just more like trying to like make other people like feel better about themselves except when he brings the books out except when he brings the books up yeah um to arian's point though like getting a press secretary lebron james needs a press secretary that goes out it answers questions for lebron james but isn't LeBron James. And then if they fuck up, then LeBron James is like, you know, we thank this person
Starting point is 01:04:38 for their service. It's time for them to move on, find a different role in life. And then they hire another press secretary. That way it's not LeBron James doing it. You could do the whole like ready player one shit. You know, we're talking to Percival. I haven't seen it. Asshole. But he's talking to Percival. The owner of the company talking to personal in the air. And he has a team full of people telling them what to say. I just want to kick back, you know, open a soda, play some guitar, whatever fucking he said. Same shit. You can have that shit in your ear, bro. Have a little air pot or something, whatever, in your ear.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Like, yo, when they ask you about this, say this. You can be the most, you can get the most perfect answers of all time, bro. But I know he's riding him. He has been wildly clean in his stardom. For the amount of time he's been in the star in the limelight,
Starting point is 01:05:29 he's done an amazing job of keeping, you know, a clean slate because shit i had trouble with it it's hard but it's hard living in the fishbow and trying to do anything perfect it's just it's not easy so it's very commendable it's just just read the book if you know it's just read it it's not it's a good book actually you should read or just don't you could uh not read it and just not walk out with it in public if you're not going to read it like you could that's also true you could just not do anything with the book yeah i really just were like you know somebody's to ask him like did you really read like, did you read the book?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like, yo, like. I mean, that's what they're asking because they can't ask that. That'd be a great question to ask. Did you read the book? Mm-hmm. The watching the godfather
Starting point is 01:06:19 the six times and not knowing a single scene is also pretty wild. All of them. That would that what Trump did. What's your favorite part of the Bible? He's like, it was your favorite verse?
Starting point is 01:06:32 He's like all of them. He said, yeah, that's a personal question. They were like, well, he said there's so many. And they were like, well, just pick one. And he was like, I couldn't possibly. And then he was speaking it, it may have been liberty. It was some Christian college. And he said, two Corinthians.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Two Corinthians. Yeah. Come on, dude. Oh, well, my favorite, my favorite Donald Trump Bible moment was like, It, the Bible, it's one of the best books ever written. I think they say that it's the Bible and then Art of the Deal as the two most frequently sold books, two great ones. Like, come on, just ask somebody.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I think he called it an all-time great. I think he called the Bible, like an all-time great. I mean, not wrong. That's a bucklist one. But dude, just ask somebody like, hey, this two Corinthians, what's that about? Who, Corinthian? Do you all have a favorite Bible version? I know yours.
Starting point is 01:07:33 You know my? Yeah. What is it? I don't know the exact. I know some of the parts of it. What is it? I think I know the one that you think is the funniest. Please.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I think it's... Sorry. It's the one about yearning for donkeys. after being enlightened. No, it's not. And why would you think that? Because he once texted into the group chat. Oh, I mean, I'll be texting a lot of things in the group chat.
Starting point is 01:08:09 No, my favorite Bible verse is John 1034. Love that. Love that verse. It was Jesus, I think he was speaking to, who was he speaking to? I forget who he was speaking to. But he was, they were questioning, like, him because he was, claiming to be the son of God and God at the same time. That whole thing is very confusing.
Starting point is 01:08:33 But then he says, is it not written in your law that he are gods? Tell them your gods too. Fire. I love that. I like that. I don't have a favorite Bible verse because I've never read the Bible. But I like. You've read some of it.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I like in the beginning there was light. I fuck with light. How does the Bible end? You just, you just combined. two. Oh, did I? In the beginning. I like in the beginning. So there's, well, are you talking about Genesis 1? Like, let there be light, or in the beginning there was the word, the word was with God, the word was God. You combined
Starting point is 01:09:13 to them. In the beginning, like the very, the first line of the Bible. Okay. Yeah. That's, yeah. Ezekiel 2320 is, uh, is an amusing verse. enlighten us it's it's uh sorry to assume that you thought the funny one you sent in was your favorite because you can't have great verses but like like the art of war that we read a lot of the bible is just like common sense that we assume that everyone knows that but like back then it was sort of revolutionary stuff so the book of jesus one one in the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,
Starting point is 01:09:57 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while the wind from God swept over the face of the waters, then God said, let there be light, and there was light. What translation is that? That's Google. The first Google hit result. That sounds like a new lib translation.
Starting point is 01:10:15 The King LeBron James version. And what's the line? Let's spoil the Bible. How does it end? Big T, how's the Bible end? Who did it? It depends. The devil did it.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Which side you're on in the rapture. It ends fairly poorly for some people. The last sentence in the Bible is a beautiful spiritual blessing. And it says, let's see, wait, that's the end of Matthew Mark. Hang on, I clicked the wrong link here. The grace of the Lord, Jesus, be with all, amen. That's a good ending. That sums it up pretty well.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's a good ending to the Bible. Yeah. Should we read the Bible, guys? I was so down for that. There's some outstanding stories that y'all would love. Like how we did Art of War? Yeah, guys. The Bible is very entertaining.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I agree. From a secular perspective. I'm talking to an atheist. It's wild. Like, the First Testament, bro. It's fucking wild. Revelations is amazing. It's wild. A lot of raping, a lot of killing. This is a lot. It's crazy, though. A couple of, like five, six years ago when I first started here at Barstall,
Starting point is 01:11:37 and I had a little bit more free time to write on my hands, I was going to do a translation of the Bible. But that might be a little, is that sacrilegious to do a new translation? I don't think so. I mean, Bro Bible. It's been, yeah. It is, but now if you don't believe it, like, it doesn't matter for you, I guess. It's just, it's been translated so many times. Like, I feel like we're due for a new album. It was.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Whatever you read sounds like the newest translation. That sounds like some Hillsong church stuff. Well, what's Lib about saying, like, okay, in the beginning, there was nothing. No, it was just, it was just the wording sounded very, what did you Google to find that? Tell me what you Googles out. Prozac, opening line of the Bible. Because I want to find out what translation that is. I think that's the King James Version.
Starting point is 01:12:33 No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. In the beginning, God created a heaven, earth. And the earth was out for that. That's the King James Version. And the earth was out for him and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Was it really? And God said, let there be light. And there was light. Did big, big. teach us called the word of the lord liberal I think he did I just didn't expect that that was the KJV that sounded
Starting point is 01:13:02 very new age, new living translation this would always do me off about the bro like some of the word of the shit and God saw the light that it was good what's good light
Starting point is 01:13:18 what does that mean good like well there is like there's bad lighting like those new those new incandes that's not light. Darkness wouldn't be light. Like, what is, what's good about, I mean. God saw the light and that it was good.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I believe the next part is that he divided it from the darkness. Which also isn't true. You can't divide light from dark. How do you figure? How do you divide light from dark? It's just shit in the way of the light. Right now, it's light outside. Later, it's going to be dark.
Starting point is 01:13:49 They're divided. That we're saying. There's no divit. Okay, you guys, division of our planets. I think night and day is the implication there. Yeah. I mean, you can say that
Starting point is 01:14:01 you made light and it's good light, like a circle light. Like the ones that Instagram influencers use. You can always see it like in their eyes. It's like, oh yeah, this lighting is good. No shadows on my face. The sun is good light. It's not a bad light. You have to admit
Starting point is 01:14:19 the sun is good light. But I think in order for something to be good, there has to be a contrast. right, which what is bad light? Well, darkness. Darkness is bad. Why is darkness bad? He never says
Starting point is 01:14:34 darkness is bad. Kind of. He just says light is good. He didn't say anything. He doesn't say darkness is bad. He said light was good. God divided the light from the darkness and called the light day
Starting point is 01:14:47 and the darkness he called night. We're going to read the Bible. Bible studies. Can we? Can we read like Mesopotamian myths? Yeah, Billy can read Mesopotamian myths. We'll read the Bible. Okay, I'll read the Bible.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And here's the first contradiction of the Bible. And God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. You'd have been impressive if he'd have said, God made one light, and one is a reflection. that would have been impressive you know wait
Starting point is 01:15:28 he was saying that there's there's a different light for the darkness no he didn't say there's a different light he said god made two different lights yeah
Starting point is 01:15:37 which is not true it's the same light it's just reflected off of the moon if they would say that that would be more accurate and lead me to believe that this is true
Starting point is 01:15:46 if because you understand how celestial shit works if you say it right right the moon is not it doesn't produce light it reflects light from the sun yeah the moon rocks it honestly does like the moon it is a rock yeah it is rock if you look at all the scars on the moon all the craters that that dude has thrown himself in front of some bullets for us that's like
Starting point is 01:16:12 our secret service agent that's our fullback we got the moon it's almost like the moon knows when the comments coming in and it just intercepts it real quick takes it out yeah shout out the moon where was he where was he when the dinosaurs yeah that's what i was about to say billy's about to say that area i beat him to it no no i like like the moon wasn't the moon didn't fuck with the dinosaurs miss his assignment moon was it man may miss the sam yeah can't trust pass protection yeah in the film room back to special teams listen they remember the ones that you miss
Starting point is 01:16:52 they don't remember all the ones that you connect on, right? These are facts, man. Dinosaurs, we had to sign a whole new species. Ended their career. Ended their career. Yeah, all time would have been players, the dinosaurs. Joe Thaisman. Joe Thaisman.
Starting point is 01:17:11 I mean, when you think about dinosaurs, they ran shit for way longer than we've run shit. So I looked it up. Every single molecule of water on the planet has passed through a dinosaur at some point. It's sick. So we're drinking dinosaur piss. Yeah, love it.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Every single molecule of water. I would like some, I would like to see how that's calculated. Look it up. That sounds like a Daily Beast article, Big T. Yes. They also say all the air that you're breathing is the same air that was back. so you're breathing the same air that they broothed.
Starting point is 01:17:54 That makes way more sense than every molecule of water going through dinosaurs. I don't know. I can't vouch for that one, but I don't know. Can you send me some literature on that, Billy? Google is the first thing that pops up. No, but there was a, there's a C.S. Lewis book that I read certain parts of
Starting point is 01:18:17 that makes pretty convincing artists. convincing arguments about like the farther you deep into like delve into science like the more you find evidence of something greater
Starting point is 01:18:35 not necessarily like the Old Testament New Testament Quran or anything else but that there is something mm-hmm what you say that also C.S. Lewis wrote, so wait, I might need to get, I did not plan on arguing for the evidence of a higher power at this point after all we've been through.
Starting point is 01:19:05 But there's a C.S. Lewis book that has some pretty convincing arguments for why they're not just Christianity, but like a higher power may exist, the more you look into. of science. But moving on. I would like to hear that argument. I'll find and send you the book. It's interesting stuff. I have, I, like, read it a couple years ago, and I kind of want to do it again. C.S. Lewis.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Sounds familiar. Here's a big Bible guy. Narnia. He wrote Narnia. He wrote Narnia. Brilliant, brilliant man. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:47 You guys want to dive into. Watergate a little bit? I'm going to dive into the water closet first, but I'll be right back. That was good. Wait, Bill, you're just going to take a piss next to me. If you don't mind. Billy's in my hotel room. He's in the other room right now, and the toilet is about six feet from where I'm sitting
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Starting point is 01:21:57 They've got great flavors, too. So shout out Lucy, go pick some up. Let's get into Watergate, guys. Watergate. The original gate, every other gate has been based off of Watergate. What are your favorite gates? deflate gate deflate gate
Starting point is 01:22:18 I think they've all been all mid since you know I'm saying since watergate they've been like parodies of actual like conspiracies yeah yeah they've been like serious or has there been like a serious like gate or they're all just like
Starting point is 01:22:36 everything's called a gate there was Russia gate um I'm looking it up right now the the gates there was um bill gates there was cunt gate kunk gate was a good one uh the outrage on social media that followed when samantha b called it evanka trump a feckless cunt on her comedy news show i remember that real shame that got canceled cut kut kate cut kate is uh is fantastic what about donut gate do you guys know donut gate
Starting point is 01:23:10 I'm not familiar Donut gate was when Ariana Grande was caught on video licking unpurchased donuts and stating I hate Americans I hate America
Starting point is 01:23:23 that's disgusting What? Yeah Hold on that that was Ariana Grande Ariana Grande 2015 video surfaced
Starting point is 01:23:33 that were doing that and then She kicked that all because I know that That was like a little challenge that was going on Yeah ice cream
Starting point is 01:23:39 Yeah and then And then police and health department investigated and Grande canceled her headline performance at the 2015 All-Star game concert, citing recent oral surgery, which that's a great spend zone. But yeah, that was because of donut gate. I've never heard of this. So where was she licking donuts? Like donut shops? Unpurchased donuts. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You know what? I'm going to click on the donut gate link and we're going to find out about. Please do. Donut gate. Let's see here. I think it was just like one time accidentally caught on camera. I mean, Ronde licks a donut in viral security camera video.
Starting point is 01:24:22 What's talking about what constitutes a gate? Like what makes it a gate? You know what I mean? Just any sort of scandal. So was this was this submarine thing? Was that an ocean gate? That was actually called Ocean Gate. The name of that company was called Ocean Gate, but.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Was it really? Yeah. But that wasn't a scandal. That was just a tragedy. MacroGate. Like, I think when your incident with RICO happened, I think people called it like High Noon Gate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I don't recall that terminology, but it could have been. Like, but that would be something. There was Nipplegate. Nipplegate was when Janet Jackson had a boom show. Yep, yep. There was Gamergate. You guys know about Gamergate, right? Gamergate, I remember gaming
Starting point is 01:25:11 That was when all like the gamers were upset That the women The depiction of women in video games Were getting like less sexy I guess Well it was it stemmed from like There was this one video game reviewer That was in a relationship with a game developer
Starting point is 01:25:30 And she was giving like positive reviews on some of their games And then gamers were like This is fucked up like This is about ethics and video video game journalism, we're not getting it. Women should be questioned more when they're the ones that are doing reviews of these games, and we can't trust them because they're all in bed together. And then it just became like a, it became a massive, massive thing where there were like
Starting point is 01:25:52 brand boycotts, all sorts of stuff. But that was like the start of it. And then it got into like, then it got into like, I'm remembering it wrong. Like it got into like women, women's depicting the video game. And it was mad because I think Laura Croft, Tomb Raider. they redid her character to have like less less boobs yeah and they were like this is ridiculous
Starting point is 01:26:15 basically a green eminemder yeah they lola bunnies her they nerfed her yeah people forget that Laura Croft used to be way way hotter back in the day the graphics were shudder so they were everything was square
Starting point is 01:26:31 yeah there was let's see there's Billy Gate do you guys remember Billy Gate which one I don't remember Billy Carter people don't talk enough about Billy Carter by the way Jimmy Carter his brother Billy Carter
Starting point is 01:26:47 was known Yeah he was known for being just like a drunk kind of fuck up guy good time having guy And so he's the brother of the president But he was just like kind of I don't like the John, if John Daley If his brother was president Then it's like oh that's that's the equivalent here
Starting point is 01:27:04 They made beer for him called Billy Beer because he was just known as being a drunk. He represented the Libyan government as a foreign agent in the United States. And so they called that Billy Gate. That might have been the first post-watergate gate because that was 1980. So it was pretty close afterwards. Well, it's a good thing we put a stop to immediate family members of presidents having dealings with foreign governments. That would be bad to have that still going on.
Starting point is 01:27:32 It is good. We learned and we moved on. you're right there was uh coal gate which is co a l gate which is uh the indian government fucked up a bunch of coal field auctions there was elbow gate do you guys remember elbow gate justin trudeau he accidentally elbowed a female member of parliament in the boobs and then the opposition was like he he sexually assaulted this woman that sounds like a comedian email Gate. That was Hillary. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yep. Let's see. There's, I mean, there's just so many gates to go through. Pizza gate. Yeah. The Pizza Gate scandal. Where do we settle on that, Billy? What's new with pizza gate? I feel like that's kind of gone radio silent on us recently. Well, because basically they figured out that the real scandal was that they were just paying these catering companies, insane amount of
Starting point is 01:28:28 monies to give kickbacks to like family and friends. Yeah, that's probably what actually happened. There was Monica Gate. I remember that. People always, they called it Monica Gate, and it was like, come on, come on, like, come up with a better name for this. Because it's about Bill Clinton jacking off onto Monica Lewis. It should have been called Mastergate. That would have been much more appropriate name for it.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I thought it was oral six. Well, yeah, she blew him, too, but then he also jacked off. I never heard that one. I thought she just, I thought she just went down on him in the overall office. I thought he was jacking up. There was a cigar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:08 When he was using the cigar, maybe I'm wrong about that. I mean, you could be right, but I don't remember. Well, the dress is how they found out about it. So it seems to me that at some point he would have had to.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Yeah. Now, was that from spillage or was that like he pulled out? A direct admission. I was not there. I can't attest. What would you imagine, when you close your eyes,
Starting point is 01:29:31 you think about Bill's when you're, getting head. I'll leave that up to anyone else that wants to. We should have Bill Clinton on the show. Sign me up. Yeah. No way that guy knows how to work your computer. There was Sharpie Gate.
Starting point is 01:29:53 That was a shithole one. Oh, also a shithole gate was on there. There's too many gates. There's too many gates. everything is a gate nowadays and it doesn't make much sense that we just decide to use gate as the suffix because
Starting point is 01:30:08 there were different scandals before Watergate happened. There was like the Teapot Dome scandal which would have been another good name for what Bill Clinton did there's been just a bunch of other scandals that happened before Watergate but ever since Watergate occurred it's like oh everything's got to be a gate now
Starting point is 01:30:24 but we can talk we can talk Watergate 1972 gatekeeping there is there's definitely gatekeeping gatekeeping scandals yeah
Starting point is 01:30:36 am I gatekeeping gates right now you might be you're the only we're the only one who's spoken about gates gate you guys want to talk
Starting point is 01:30:46 about water gate itself I thought that was the goal yeah let's do it 1972 June 1972 too. There was a breaking going on at the Democratic National Committee headquarters that was at the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C. There's a bunch of embassies around there, too. It's just like federal buildings, embassies, Watergate Hotel. And there were a bunch of flashlights that they could see across the way. And it's like, oh, somebody's, there's somebody, it looks like a burglary or something like that. So Forrest Gump called it in.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yeah. If you remember the movie. But what happened was There was a security guard That was walking through the building Making his night rounds I saw a clip Sorry, man
Starting point is 01:31:36 I saw a clip the end of another funny-ass Forest Cup line Yeah That we forgot to imagine Lieutenant Dan come to their wedding Yeah And he walks up And he said
Starting point is 01:31:47 Lieutenant Dan you got new legs And then he goes Titanium alloy Nassie used it on spaces He looks down He looks up and looks up he goes, magic legs. I rewind it back like six times.
Starting point is 01:32:05 It's hilarious. Okay, so through the eyes of Forrest Gump, this is how Watergate happened. Yeah, sir, you might want to send a maintenance man over to that office because you might want to send a maintenance man over that office cross the way. The lots are off and they must be looking for the fuse box or something because them flashlights, they're keeping me away. Okay, sir, I'll check it out.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Thank you. So that's how Watergate happened. And the rest is history. But, no, there's a security guard that was making the rounds. And he saw that there was a door that had been taped. So they taped it along the lock and the doorknob of the door. So that when you close the door, the doorknob wouldn't close all the way. So that room was being kept open because there was a piece of tape that somebody had obviously put in front of it to make sure the door wouldn't lock them out or locked them in.
Starting point is 01:33:02 And so he saw that. He's like, somebody's breaking into here. And they called the police. And there was a vice squad of police officers that was nearby. And I don't want to say uncle because he's not my uncle, but my aunt's boyfriend that she had for like 25 years. really long time. I knew him very well growing up. He was one of those guys. If you look up on the Wikipedia article, his name's John Barrett. John Barrett is the guy's name. And he was the first one through the door at the Watergate Hotel Break. He told me some very funny stories, by the way,
Starting point is 01:33:38 about working on the Vice Squad during like the 70s and the 60s. So his job, him and his buddies, they were like in charge of trying to find, you know, if it was drugs, if it was hookers or whatever, they would try to arrest them. And so sometimes they would pose as hookers and try to like catch people that were trying to pick them up. And then some nights they, they were like, I guess there's no crime time, but it was just like these two cops that were very clearly male cops dressed up trying to look like hookers, not getting hit on by anybody and not getting picked up cars. So I guess there, I guess no horny guys out here tonight. What were you going to do about it? Because I'm looking good. Yeah, I'm looking real good tonight.
Starting point is 01:34:19 nobody's trying to get in these thighs. So it must be, it must be them. I guess we've done our job. But yeah, there were some people that were breaking in there, including people that had ties to Richard Nixon, had ties to the CIA, had ties to the FBI, but they're breaking into the Democratic National Committee trying to get intel on the elections that were going on. So back then it wasn't as easy as just hacking into somebody else's computer to find out what they were up to.
Starting point is 01:34:49 or paying some other group to hack into their computer and give you the information. To do something like that, you had to actually go like boots on the ground, break in someplace, and see what they're working with. So Nixon was, he was afraid and paranoid about not getting reelected president. And he had this, he had this committee called Creep, the committee to reelect the president, which is just a terrible, terrible acronym to have, like, creep, especially for Nixon who's like, like,
Starting point is 01:35:19 of a creepy dude. I think we can all agree to that. He pretty much lost the election because he had to go on television and debate against John F. Kennedy. And he looked like way, way creepier than John F. Kennedy. So John F. Kennedy won. And then so Nixon gets elected president later. Very creepy guy names his committee to reelect the president, the creep. So he was trying to get intel on the opposition to figure out where they were going to be campaigning, what they're spending their money on donors all that stuff and uh yeah so that so they got caught up that night trying to break in um big t do you want do you want to take over for anything here am i missing anything so far no i don't think so okay so at into the show um at first at first it was
Starting point is 01:36:12 basically a break in it was like okay well there's some people that are breaking in not really news story that much and it was covered just like a normal a normal thing they were they were also trying to like not only steal stuff but they were trying to drop like microphones so that people could listen in from across the way as to what the democrats were saying trying to beat richard Nixon and then uh woodward and bernstein from the washington post started looking into a little bit and the identities of some of the burglars made people suspicious it was people that had done business with the White House before. G. Gordon Liddy, who was like a massively influential, like news radio guy for a long time.
Starting point is 01:36:57 He was like the Tucker Carlson of his day, you could say. It was like him and Rush Lumball. He was one of the guys because he was working with Nixon. And there were a couple other guys that were involved in the break-in that were tied to the Nixon administration. And so people were like, okay, well, what's going on here? And then Woodward and Bernstein decided to look into And they started following the money a little bit So yeah
Starting point is 01:37:22 And you should mention Bob Woodward was like very young Like maybe my age or so When he And they sent him to that first hearing Of the guys getting I guess it was their arraignment after they were arrested Because it was just covered like a
Starting point is 01:37:38 Oh hey these guys were arrested like breaking into this hotel It was a very local like not big story at all so they sent a pretty junior reporter to go be there. And I forget, I wish I had it written down. He wrote something down on his notebook when he was in the courtroom that was said, and I forget the exact terminology of what it was. But he was like, when I heard that said in the courtroom, I knew that this was more than like a, you know, breaking into a hotel for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:38:10 And so that's the only reason he ended up being on it was because, they didn't think it was a big story at all. Yeah, so when they started covering it, they wrote it up kind of as a basic news story, but the five people that they got were for
Starting point is 01:38:27 for Helio Gonzalez, Bernard Baker, James McCord, Eugenio Martinez, and Frank Sturgis. And they said that police found lock picks and door jimmies, nearly $2,300 in cash, most of it in $100 bills with serial numbers and
Starting point is 01:38:43 sequence that's suspicious right there i don't even know where you get like sequence sequential hundred dollar bills you're you're definitely going to commit a crime or you've just gotten done committing a crime if you have sequential a hundred dollar bills like fresh off the presses ain't it yeah you're basically saying like i work at the united states men where would you get sequenced hundred dollar bills oh and in a uh a hostage situations when they're trying to pay off the hostage and know where the money is going to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah, it's touched, it's touched like federal hands at some point if you're looking at sequential. So one of the funniest things when reading about this case was it turns out the informant that sort of ratted on the whole group was called Deep Throat. Yeah. Now, looking at my notes on this, the secret informant who provided information in 1972 to Bob Woodward, who shared it with Carl Bernstein and then shared it with the Washington Post
Starting point is 01:39:45 provide key details about the involvement of Richard Nixon administration what became known as the Watergate scandal. So the guy who tattled on Nixon, his nickname was Deep Throat. I had a feeling Billy would be attracted to that part of the story. It's a pretty cool part of the story. Do you know who he was, Billy?
Starting point is 01:40:03 It's a funny part. Yeah, Bob Woodward. Wait, yeah. No. No. Who was it? uh his name was mark felt he was the associate director of the fbi yeah and bob woodward promised that he would never reveal that as long as he was alive but then the guy's daughter like got him
Starting point is 01:40:25 to admit that it was him when he was in his like 90s huh when he had a dementia nice i don't know if that's true or not now when did the movie come out all the president's men like in still like two or three years after this happened like in the 70s so was deep throat named after who came first Mark felt or the the first like porno it was a porn porn came first for sure okay so he was named after him that's hilarious
Starting point is 01:41:02 yeah I actually don't know why he was referred to that way he no he called himself deep throat because it was like a popular movie and he was like yeah that's this is kind of funny and so he called himself deep deep throat probably not knowing that for years and years actually it's probably a great reason why he never said that he was deep throat because then he'd have to be like yeah I gave myself the nickname deep throat imagine that like if you guys were ever like a source somewhere and then you you're like call me like giant gaping asshole you're never going to admit that that was you. Right? I mean, kind of like maybe the most important source in like
Starting point is 01:41:50 journalism history. Yeah. And his name was Deep Throat. Yeah, for sure. It's, it's wild. So there was also a GOP security aid that was one of the Watergate burglars. And that's, that might be, what Woodward saw and he was like, well, this is going, this is going deep because this guy is connected to the White House. Also, they also, they had a $25,000 cashier's check that was, that was earmarked for the Nixon campaign. And it was in the bank account of one of the Watergate burglars. That's what they found on August 1st, 1972. So it's about falling the money where deep throw couldn't tell Woodward. word and bernsey and everything but he could confirm things for them and say yeah you're on the
Starting point is 01:42:45 right track keep looking down this path so the cashier's check was one of those things where they're like hey this came from a nixon source and why is it in the bank account of one of these guys and so then they started digging and digging and digging a little bit more you know what's also pretty crazy like this whole shady shit occurring and like guys getting paid on the side like various you know guys working a day job but making extra money like working for the campaign type thing is like just totally makes me think that these were the same types of uh dealings that killed kennedy you know what i'm saying well these guys so i don't yeah they they probably shouldn't have been breaking into place and trying to plant like bugs and wires and shit but
Starting point is 01:43:34 they're also more of like a bunch of pranksters before this happened so they were kind of just designed to fuck with the Democrats and the Democratic campaigns. So they would go into like DC hotels when they knew that the Democratic operatives would be staying there. And you know how like I don't think I've necessarily seen this except maybe in movies, but people would leave their shoes outside their hotel door to be clean so that the next morning they would have clean shoes on when they got up and they left their room. They used to send the creep guys, the committee to reelect the president, into hotel.
Starting point is 01:44:10 hotels and just steal people's shoes in the middle of the night. Just fuck with them. They also wrote like fake letters, which like that, that's something that could happen today is somebody could write a fake letter and do like a fake signature and then tweet out a picture and be like, yo, look what Big T sent to us last week. Isn't this wildly inappropriate? And then people would believe that it's true before Big T had a chance to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not my handwriting.
Starting point is 01:44:37 So they used to write fake letters and try to get people hemmed up on that. They were just, like, agents of chaos. Like the meme warriors? Yeah, yeah, they were the original meme warriors, for sure. That's what I mean, FBI, CIA, they was, like, known for that earlier, especially in, you know, black communities to cause mischief between, you know, Black Panthers and other organizations and dissension within the ranks. Divide and Conqueror has been their game from day one.
Starting point is 01:45:03 CIA is known for doing that. And this wasn't, like, new, like Watergate was just there when they got caught. they had done so much shit that they uncovered and shit that they didn't uncover that they was just doing dirty shit like this is just part and parcel for like American governmental politics
Starting point is 01:45:21 yeah they don't have to be true but there's there will be like 25% of people that think that it might be true maybe 30% people that think that it might be true and if you just get that like tiny seed of doubt then that's enough to affect your little loyalty and your entire like operation
Starting point is 01:45:37 I want to cleaned something up so it would the the special counsel to the creep was g gordon litty that's the dude so um g g g g g g g g g lyddy was going to get paid uh 250 000 from the creep and then lyddy with his partner howard hunt planned the burglary so they planned it and then um after they got caught and arrested and enough questions started to circuit late about, wait, one of these guys is a security assistant at the White House and there's money floating around what's going on. Nixon finally had to comment about it and said that we don't have any involvement
Starting point is 01:46:23 at all on the break-in. And once they started tracing more and more of the cash, they indicted the burglars along with Liddy and Hunt, charged them with conspiracy, burglary, and violation of federal wiretapping laws. and then all the men except for Liddy and McCord, they pleaded guilty. So the morning after these guys got caught, Liddy had to let people know, like, hey, some shit went down last night, my bad, dinko was planned. So you had to tell his bosses that everybody got arrested and the bosses freaked out. And Mitchell, who is the head of the creep, issued a statement to the press saying, we didn't have anything to do with it.
Starting point is 01:47:03 he said that the men involved were not operating on either our behalf or with our consent there is no place in our campaign for this type of activity and we will not permit or condone it so there's a bunch of a bunch of denials and what do you expect them to do that point yeah they're going to deny it they're going to deny everything but this is where like the cover up is is worse than the crime i don't know i i just have to assume that this type of like spying and shit has been going on for like as long as politics have existed right yeah as long as they've had the capabilities yeah absolutely they've always had shit even in folklore the like game of thones type shit people have always had low spies running around gathering information for them
Starting point is 01:47:50 snitching all that shit and this was even Nixon was trying to get the CIA to um uh dabble into the FBI's investigation, and the CIA declined. Yeah, there was a big cover-up after the fact. So most people pleaded guilty, but Liddy McCourt didn't. When they went on trial, they were found guilty. And then the FBI director, Gray, he testified that there were people from the Nixon campaign that had sat in when water. Gate witnesses were being interviewed, and then he turned over the FBI's Watergate files
Starting point is 01:48:35 to the Nixon campaign. And then Nixon pretty much said there was a meeting on March 22nd, 1973, which is about a year after the break-in, and that was in the Oval Office, and Ehrlichman, he's one of Nixon's guys, was like, we're going to say that nobody in the White House was involved, and Nixon chimed in, that's right. That's right. And then they discussed using executive privilege to limit questioning. Nixon made it clear that he wanted to cover up to continue.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Here's the quote from Nixon. I don't give a fuck what happens. I watch it all stonewallet. Let them plead the Fifth Amendment cover up or anything else. If it'll save it, if it'll save the client. You guys like my Nixon impression? I've never ever done one before, but I think that's not bad. I actually really liked it.
Starting point is 01:49:22 I don't give a fuck what happens. I watch your Stonewallet. Stonewallet. Just let them plead the Fifth Amendment. I kind of miss Nixon, man I wish Nixon had lived a little bit longer because he was such a character that I would The Nixon impressions are always so fun to watch
Starting point is 01:49:36 Dude, this guy used to get hammering Try to bomb China Yeah, yeah, people don't talk about that Speak on a bill Yeah, like this dude You just get hammered to be like Let's bomb China in his age And be like, don't give him the nuclear football
Starting point is 01:49:49 He's hammered And it raises an interesting constitutional question Like if you know that the president is just fucking shit-housed and this is what he likes to do and he won't remember it the next morning. If he gives a lawful order and he's like, bomb those sons of bitches.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Like, should you actually like, buy the letter of the law and the Constitution, you have to bomb him, right? Big T? I don't think that would be the case, no. Well, who gets to decide? Somebody gets to just usurp the presidency of the United States and be like,
Starting point is 01:50:22 uh, he's had six scotches tonight. I think a court would determined that a person of reasonable and sound mind has the authority to make a decision in that instance. Have a safe room. Have a safe room
Starting point is 01:50:38 for the president when he gets drunk to everything he thinks it's going to happen is happening. You know, like have a nuclear desk, have a nuclear station. Give him a creed thoughts. Yeah. First millennial president. That must be such a rush though to like order
Starting point is 01:50:54 nuclear bombing. Yo. Wow. Only one guy's gotten to do it. Yeah. Has gotten to do that. I mean, listen, a lot of people, a lot of people spend a lot of money to do like once in a lifetime experiences and stuff. There is one person on earth who has done that ever.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Yeah. You want to take out? No, no. What are you talking about? I'm just saying. You say he got to do it twice. I'm saying there's only one person out of everyone who's ever lived. Only one person has done that.
Starting point is 01:51:32 That's pretty crazy. Has done that is fine. Has gotten to. It means like there's a dollar for other people to want to participate. Sure. No, but it is, I'm just saying that's like, you know, there aren't many things that only one person has done. It sounds like Big T is saying that there's a, there's a market for like a fantasy camp for war crimes. Like you probably be pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:51:56 $5,000 get to go pretend to be president for a week and deal with like a China invasion of Taiwan and it's like well they took out two carrier groups in the South Pacific what are we going to do Sir Big T sir Big T we only have one option Beyond Big T if if it was like a Saturday in the fall Tennessee was about to kick off against Alabama
Starting point is 01:52:23 in like an hour and a half and somebody came into your Oval Office and was like, sir, we have to nuke China. This is probably going to take up the rest of your day. Do you wait a couple hours? In this scenario, I'm the real president. Yeah, it's real president. What have they done to warrant this?
Starting point is 01:52:45 Pay pay NIA deals to Alabama. Yeah. I mean, if this is a real deal like we got to deal with this, Listen, I'm sure Like What, I hit the button And then what? Okay, now we're going to monitor the situation
Starting point is 01:53:03 Put the game on in the corner This is You're telling me the White House Doesn't have a couple TVs That's great You're like you wildly just like Hit the button for the MOOC And then like
Starting point is 01:53:17 As you gather the casualty numbers in There is There's no excuse in 2023 Yeah you can you can multitask if you're not capable of doing that you shouldn't be president that's wow big t's got his his iPhone out like as he's got a video feed of like a b2 bomber coming overseas but he's also got in the corner like ESPN plus pulled up Obama was definitely watching bulls games when he was doing shit yeah yeah i don't know um was killed he also had
Starting point is 01:53:54 I guarantee you, I guarantee you, they were watching, wait, wait, wait, when was that May? May 2nd, it was on my birthday. Okay. You probably watched Russell Mania or whatever. What year was that? 2010 or 11? What games were on that night? Yeah, yeah, it was May 2nd. I do remember it was about my birthday.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Yeah, it was my birthday. Now that it's been all said done. It was like May 1st to May 2nd. It was in between. It was like that night. So the playoffs would have been, oh, Bowls had a playoff game against the Hawks that night. I guarantee. I guarantee you it was on.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I guarantee it. That's how to think about those dogs. You're just randomly murdering people and then just on the side watching the game. Catching a game. Catching a game. I don't remember that series. Hawks won game one, by the way,
Starting point is 01:54:42 103.95 that night. Joe Johnson, 34. Wasn't that Derek Rose's only like playoff appearance? No, if you. With Joaquin. No, they went to the Eastern Conference final. against lebron in 2014 i think but that was was that one of his first runs i thought you know you're great though it went to the finals against lebron like not the calves or what the fuck it was
Starting point is 01:55:09 it was in miami he was mostly lebron that was there that's great great i'm trying to look up on on the sports ecyclopedia what frank the tank has said happened this day in sports may second 2011. I'm not finding much, but if it was a Hawks Bowl's playoff game,
Starting point is 01:55:27 yeah, I can say that Obama definitely was at least checking the scores. He was like pulling down on the refresh.
Starting point is 01:55:33 For sure. I mean, I think like once he found out Osama was dead and the extraction of the seals went well,
Starting point is 01:55:41 that he may have been like, hey, what happened? At least. I mean, I mean, honestly, how much,
Starting point is 01:55:50 How much more involved are you other than, yeah, go do it? They were watching a live feed. There's that picture of them, like, everyone watching, like Hillary Clinton and him and Joe Biden. Oh, so there's a live feed going on. Yeah, they were watching it. I think they had on like, yeah, I don't know if he had it on.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Yeah, I don't know if he had it on. He was checking. Yeah. I don't know if they had a live, like, there's cameras, there's cameras in the room while it's going on. Yeah. It's not a good luck that had a bulls came on in the background. Why you're pulling out of it?
Starting point is 01:56:20 At a bare minimum, somebody came in at some point and it was like, hey, it's 92.87. Knock on the door. Is the president? It's 92 to 95. Is the president allowed to gamble? Is there any laws against us? For sure, not. I don't know if there's expressly a law against it, but you definitely, like, he can't
Starting point is 01:56:39 sign up for the Barstall sports book with Barack Obama. I don't know. I think Biden could. I think D.C. you're allowed to gamble, right? In the city? No, D.C. is really weird, actually. it's illegal except for within something like a thousand feet of Nationals Park
Starting point is 01:56:57 so that's the only place you can do it it's something about you have to be within a certain amount of feet of a physical sports book and the only one is at Nat's Park yeah we could go with the bridge real quick go up to Andrew's Air Force Base but also like he does a lot of your bets in come back yeah President does a lot of public appearances in a lot of different states like what if he came to Ohio and went to the Roxino and wanted to...
Starting point is 01:57:21 I just can't imagine the president is allowed to do that. Is he allowed to invest in companies? No. No, the emulement clause, yeah. So I couldn't find anything that says presidents can or can't gamble. But it's just like article talking about people. In the 2016 election,
Starting point is 01:57:44 they estimated there was over a billion that was wagered on the election the people betting on the elections Oh, yeah Biden definitely just uses Hunter for that Like Hunter, you in Delaware Logging a couple of bats for me Yeah
Starting point is 01:58:00 Big T, you'll find this to be interesting though So there is in fact A link between the University of Alabama And The Communist Party of China I believe it So the U.S. Department of Education Investigated a link between Alabama and the lab that the U.S. government says
Starting point is 01:58:24 is closely linked to the origins and spread of the COVID-19 pandemic. How about that? Late on me. How about that? Nick Saban caused COVID. Nick Saban might have caused COVID. Did he get a good recruiting class after that? I mean, they're in the top three every year.
Starting point is 01:58:41 He probably found out that Kirby was like going after one of his quarterbacks and was like, I got, we got to, we got to stop. international travel we got to stop airplanes in the United States just think about it something to consider so Watergate back to water down back to Watergate President Nixon got implicated as well after the grand jury's convened and there were special prosecutors that were assigned all of Nixon's top aides in the White House were implicated in perjury and obstructing justice as the news started to get tightened. Hang on, somebody's not, no thank you, I'm good. Oh, so nice.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Actually, I need more lotion. I was a psych. I got some of my. All right, sweet, sweet. Where was I? Oh, yeah. So then it came out that Nixon in. just an all-time dumb-ass move had secretly taped all of his conversation in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 01:59:53 So Nixon was a big, he was a big blackmail guy. So he would, he would always like to have information on people. So he would record everything. So that's why when you look at like the Nixon tapes, there's just a bunch of stuff with most of the, most of the swear words are like blacked out on him. But he implicated himself in basically everything bad that he ever did, which is just, he was the John Morant of presidents. He left like a paper trail behind of all of his crimes. Just turn off the tapes.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Yeah, just... Always on IG live, huh? Yeah, he was always going live. Nixon, you'd probably have hose over to the White House and be like, you got chucked us out. Listen to what I make. Listen to what Kissinger told me earlier tonight. And then Kissinger was like,
Starting point is 02:00:46 Mr. President, we have to stop recording things live. He's like, how are the hoes going to know, Henry? How are they going to know I got the, I got this A-Bob? I got B-52s out your asshole, Harry. Anyways, there was a battle for the tapes once they found out that he had all the tapes. And Nixon appointed this dude named Archibald Cox. Bad name. People had fucked up names back.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Archibald Cox aren't. Aren't you bald cox? It was the guy's name. He was a special prosecutor that was hired to investigate Watergate. And the special prosecutor requested that the president turn over nine specific tapes. And the Senate Watergate Committee joined his request. You know who was on that Senate Watergate Committee as an assistant? Big T.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Senate Committee in the 70s, Biden? No, not on the actual committee, but like as a lawyer. the Watergate committee. Oh, Hillary. Hillary, yep. This goes way back. Yep. Stinks to high heaven.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yep. Also, all right, bonk me, if you will. Hillary back in the day. Yes. Billy, you know what I'm talking about, right? Fellas. Yep. They were big.
Starting point is 02:02:07 What do you mean? They were big. What was big? Her brain? Certainly not that. Both him as first. fears of her brain, Big T? Possibly, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Yeah. Tell me more about what you think about Hillary. Jesus. I mean, as a politician, not much. But as a Fox. It was the 70s, you know? She had to have a hook somehow. Big T, everything about going back in time,
Starting point is 02:02:40 like some people wish that they had a time machine go back, kill baby Hitler. If you had a time machine, go back to the 70s and just show Hillary the night of her life. I don't know, man. I'm looking at some of these 70s. Some of these pictures of her in 70.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Very average, man. I don't see what y'all seeing. I didn't say she was hot. No, you're looking at the wrong things. Man, show me some because this looks horrible. I dropped your hottest picture of Hillary Clinton in the chat.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Billy did that once and catfish me They put the photoship on her And she was Dick And it just wasn't the case I saw the regular picture And I got catfish yo
Starting point is 02:03:24 Guys are so horny man Like they'll go back And they'll pull up a picture Of Hillary Clinton From 1973 And be like You know what I got
Starting point is 02:03:34 I got like 45 minutes What if I just made her ass Nice and big Did I get Did I get misinformation by Hillary Clinton's thickness. Yeah, you got ass like that. Yeah, you got catfish up.
Starting point is 02:03:51 You got ass-fished. As-fished. Hillary Clinton, yeah. I'd be y'all are bugging. No. Look at this jump. Drop it, Billy. Drop it in the chat.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Look at that jump. Come on, come on, br. What about Pelosi back in the day, Big T? No, no. I haven't seen her back in the day, but it's an automatic, no. I think she was a beauty queen. Nancy Pelosi? Yeah, Nancy Pelosi, old pictures.
Starting point is 02:04:31 There's definitely a bunch of horny old dudes that definitely looked at this. I guess maybe I am a horny old dude. Ew. There is. I'm not Yeah, I'm not I'm not old No
Starting point is 02:04:48 Nah She wasn't No I typed in Nancy Pelosi Young pictures And she'd look old still Because she was born like 40 or something
Starting point is 02:05:01 Yeah I feel like Yeah If you're If you were born in that age You're like were born looking old For sure There was a
Starting point is 02:05:10 There's a great, great Twitter account out there. I think it's called like 80s footballers aging badly or something like that. I'm getting it a little bit wrong, but it's along those lines where it's a bunch of soccer players from England that played in the 1980s, and you have to guess their age. And there are these dudes that are like 23 years old that look like they're 50. No joke. Like people in the 80s were old as fuck. True. We're looking good.
Starting point is 02:05:39 That's the British, too, though. It's because they were smoking cigarettes. Rory McElroy. That man is like 32 years old. He looked like 50, dog. No, he looks like a young dude. Oh, I think he's quite strapping. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:57 Quite strapped. Very doesn't look old. Google Rory McElroy, bro. I don't have to. Mad Dogg, I'd like to know the difference between handsome and strapping. He's from Europe. that's trapping yeah
Starting point is 02:06:12 even though he's not like English I feel like that's more of an English word but I love this looks like a young man big T he does
Starting point is 02:06:21 he does not look 50 no this man's 32 years old if you told me he was 27 I'd believe it what yeah I don't think
Starting point is 02:06:30 Rory looks old at all this dude looks 45 right here uh oh well also you have to remember they're in the sun a lot dogs the English are never in the sun You ever seen hair like that on a 50 year old
Starting point is 02:06:44 He's Irish one What the hair, look at the skin, bro I think dudes lose hair in high school He's got some sunburns He plays golf a lot Exactly That's great Okay
Starting point is 02:06:56 Well, bottom line is Hillary Clinton Had some good years in her I think we did you see the picture I sent to the group That one wasn't that good The dress I see what you're getting out with the dress, Billy she's she's shown some shoulders
Starting point is 02:07:11 she was a comely last oh 27 yeah what is that word comely you've never heard cumly I don't know I think you should look at more 27 year olds
Starting point is 02:07:23 bro I'm 27 but I look very young Matt McKenzie did you take where you're back right oh 100% exactly he met his oh I'm not saying that cute or now
Starting point is 02:07:37 what about if it was poor yeah that's the question well yeah that's i think he's cute he's cute but he has appeal because he's a professional athlete yeah it's kind of like a chipmunk he's also irish so that helps too northern northern irish yeah he has an i see on this show man yeah all right back to watergate back to watergate uh so archibald cox he was the special prosecutor and he was hired to investigate the entire Watergate affair. And then Archibald
Starting point is 02:08:15 Cox was like, yo, you got to turn over all these tapes that you got. If you have, if you have tapes, we have to investigate them. And Nixon said, no, I'm not doing it. And the Watergate committee issued a subpoena and took the president to court. And the judge said the president must turn over the tapes. And Nixon still refused. He claimed executive privilege, which I still don't really know what executive privilege means, just like, oh, I don't have to because I'm president, basically. And then on October 20th, Nixon ordered the attorney general to fire Cox. So Cox was an independent special prosecutor. Was not hired by Nixon didn't like hire him with the power to fire him. Once you hire a special prosecutor, they no longer report to you. And then
Starting point is 02:09:03 he told the attorney general, you have to fire him. And the, uh, the attorney general, you have to fire him. And, uh, the Attorney General refused. He resigned. Then the deputy refused and resigned. And then Robert Bork, who was the Solicitor General, that was the next person in line, followed Nixon's orders to fire Cox and he abolished the special prosecutor's office, effectively ending the investigation. That was the Saturday Day massacre that you hear people talk about, where Nixon was telling his two attorney generals, attorneys general, excuse me, that's always a weird thing to say, attorneys general to fire. the guy that was investigating him, two people rather quit than follow through. And then Nixon kind of worked his way down the line until he found somebody that was going to agree with him and fire the special prosecutor. And so then everybody was like, yo, he got to impeach this guy. He's out of pocket. And then there were 22 bills that were introduced calling for Nixon's impeachment in the House of Representatives. So then Nixon appointed a new special prosecutor, Leon Chowarsky and told people, guess what? I'm going to comply with the subpoena. I'm turning things over.
Starting point is 02:10:14 So he turned over the tapes and it turns out that two of the nine tapes were missing. So he only turned out over seven of the nine tapes. And then on one of the ones that he did turn over, there was an 18 minute gap in the other tape, which he just had erased. So then Nixon's secretary said that she accidentally caused the gaps in it. But then, the judge recommended that the grand jury investigate her for unlawful destruction of evidence. So the House started to investigate if there were grounds for impeachment. And on March 1st, 1974, the grand jury indicted seven of Nixon's top aides and named President Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator.
Starting point is 02:10:58 And then there was a trial that was set for September. And then the special prosecutor served a subpoena for 64 more tapes. And then Nixon said, I'm not giving you 64 more tapes. And then it went back to the court where they tried to argue executive privilege, confidential communications, and that Nixon doesn't have to turn over all this stuff. And the court said, yeah, tough shit, you have to turn them over. And then after that, Nixon turned over those tapes, but his fate was sealed. There was one of the tapes that showed that Nixon had lied to the public and obstructed justice. On the tape, Nixon and Holderman discussed the hush money, and Nixon told Holderman to ask the CIA to call the FBI and say that we wish for the country don't go any further into this case, period.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Hang on. He said, say, don't we wish for the country that we don't go into this further in any case, period. And then Nixon's allies in Congress turned against him, and it was very obvious that he had lost all support and that he was going to get impeached. and then he was going to get convicted. And then he announced that he was going to resign. And Gerald Ford said, I'll do it. And Gerald Ford stepped up and he became president. So that is kind of how it all ended.
Starting point is 02:12:21 Basically, Nixon just kept lying and lying and lying until he reached a point where he couldn't lie anymore about anything. And then he was like, fuck it, I'm out. Peace. I'm really surprised he resigned, actually. Because it seems like he would have just kept fighting it until he got impeach like dare them to impeach him
Starting point is 02:12:40 I guess he didn't want to be I what's the difference in being impeached or having resigned I mean I guess that's true like I think our politicians used to have a little bit more shame where they didn't want to disgrace the office
Starting point is 02:12:57 so it's like I'd rather quit than lose I don't know that's a good question because a guy that fought that hard you would think that he would keep fighting until the end I also would love to have been able to have been alive during this because I'm very curious how a story like this was consumed in the media in the 70s when there were five TV channels.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Yeah, yeah, it is kind of interesting to think about. Like the fact that they broke into their opponent's hotel room and tried to plant bugs and shit, that doesn't seem like the type of action that would bring down an entire presidency, but he kind of made it worse for himself by just continuing to lie about stuff. And don't get me wrong, it's like a weird thing for him to be like, have his fingerprints all over like a break in. It shows like just the kind of guy that he was. But it's not like a massive, massively threatened.
Starting point is 02:14:03 crime, is it? I don't know, maybe it is. It was bad. I mean, probably if he doesn't have shit recording everything in the Oval Office, he never resigns for sure. Yeah. Yeah, never videotape
Starting point is 02:14:19 or tape recorder crimes. That's a good thing to remember. And then a few years later in 1977, I guess that would be probably, what, how many years, a bunch of years later, five years later um nixon sat down with was it david frost yeah it's david frost and did the the frost nixon interview they made a movie about it a couple years ago and in the interview uh basically richard nixon said like i didn't commit any crimes because when the president does it it's not
Starting point is 02:14:53 illegal which is a baller thing to say it is it is he said that he so nixon said that the president could act illegally in certain situations if it's in the best interest of the nation or something. But basically that's Nixon saying, like, if I personally don't like it, I can break the law because I'm president. So there was like the anti-war groups that were going on at the time, a bunch of protests. Nixon hated hippies. And so in his mind, he was like, you know, if I can, if I can fuck these grass smoking do-gooders over, and that's in the busts and personal ordination. So in his own mind, he thought to himself, yeah, I can break the law.
Starting point is 02:15:34 So he goes, well, when the president does it, that means that it's not illegal, by definition. I mean, he's not wrong in a lot of cases. Yeah, you can find justification for anything. That's why I have a big group of lawyers around you whenever you make a decision. It's like, can we justify this, find a way. And if you can argue it that you are justified, then it's almost like, okay, well, we have an argument prepared. good luck spending the money and the resources to prove that what I did was illegal. So then Nixon died, and that's the end of that chapter.
Starting point is 02:16:08 Can I be dumb for a second? How did Nixon die? If I were to guess, I don't know. I did not look this up. Off the top of my head, I'm going to say stroke. It was a stroke. Let's go. April 22nd, 1994. R-IP, but also I nailed that one. I do. I feel like if you have... Do you think he felt guilt over that, or do you think he was kind of like,
Starting point is 02:16:38 yeah, no, I could have done whatever I wanted. No, he felt, no. He probably felt pissed off that people investigated him. Yeah. Right. He kind of seems like the guy that doesn't love taking blame. Yeah, if I was Nixon, honestly, what I would have done, I would have just, I would have set those tapes on fire.
Starting point is 02:16:57 and be like, I don't have them. I don't know where they went. Created the EPA. Did he? That's what I'm reading, yeah. All right, shout out Nixon. What else? Let's tell both sides of Richard Millhouse Nixon,
Starting point is 02:17:16 which is a great middle name. Kind of some, what were? Kind of some lib accomplishments. What did he accomplish? Succeeded in persuading Congress to exempt 9 million low-income Americans from paying income taxes while raising levies on the rich,
Starting point is 02:17:30 increasing social security benefits, and creating the Environmental Protection Agency. All right. Shout out Nixon. A skilled actor in foreign affairs also says Politico. Yeah. He did go to China. He was like the first president to go to China in a long time, right?
Starting point is 02:17:52 Yeah. Yeah, shook hands with Chinese president. All right. Shout old tricky dick. Anything else we want to add to the Watergate scandal? The tapes with him and the conversations between him and Reagan shows that both of the motherfuckers was racist. Not surprised.
Starting point is 02:18:17 What was that? Hmm? What they said? It was like calling black people monkeys and shit like that, sex and shit, a whole bunch of shit. It's all the shit. is on YouTube, you can take it out. I'm going to have to listen to that. There are still a bunch of Nixon tapes
Starting point is 02:18:34 that exist of him saying. I've heard of him saying pretty bad stuff. I didn't know that specifically. I'm just going to look up. Nixon tapes, worst parts, and then we'll see if there are any good quotes that we can in, oh, wow. I'm reading the quotes. Those are
Starting point is 02:18:51 something. I actually that does not surprise me. from Nixon. That does surprise me from Ronald Reagan. Nick. All that shows, Big T, is he've ever actually looked into Reagan. He was a
Starting point is 02:19:08 piece of shit. They tout him as the best Republican president, but he was a racist just like the rest of the mother. He was racist. Yeah, he was an old guy in the 80s, but that does those are some bad quotes. They most of them like that. So this day, they still like. We, you know,
Starting point is 02:19:26 We call us woke because we say motherfuckers is racist, but we tell you they fucking racist. They're racist. Most of the motherfuckers are bad racist, though. Let, wait, can we read one? Because I haven't, I can't look at it right now. I mean, I'm not going to read it. I think Nixon was, like, talking about Indian women, too.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Like, he was saying, like, that's the most unattractive women on planet Earth. Like, that time, just random-man racist shit, bro. He was, like, random-man's racist. He was going to revive the House Committee on Un-American Activities. when the Pentagon papers leaked and he was going to investigate government whistleblowers or in his works, going after all these Jews, just find one that is a Jew, will you? So he could then blame it all on Jewish people.
Starting point is 02:20:14 You also said I would have made a good Pope. I cannot confirm or deny that if Nixon would have been a good Pope. But you remember one other fun fact that, We learned about Richard Nixon a couple, like six months ago. Richard Nixon wanted to be a rapper. Yeah, he said, I often thought that if there had been a good rap group around in those days, I might have chosen a career in music instead of politics. What year was this?
Starting point is 02:20:50 I don't know, I'm just picturing Richard Nixon on stage and like an Adidas jumpsuit and a coot. Cougar hat. Dick Gold chain. Nope. Yeah. Fricky Dick. That would be a fire rap name. Well, honestly, the presidency in, you know, being a huge rap superstar, probably had some
Starting point is 02:21:12 similar perks that he wanted to seek. Like what? You know, fame, drug use. No, he was not. Richard Nixon probably did like old school amphetamines Yeah Old little amphetamines
Starting point is 02:21:31 Probably pop pills And probably was like In pursuit of a lot of women The presidents were definitely Clinton was just the first to get caught In the mainstream Yeah or I mean if you're If you're Ronald
Starting point is 02:21:44 Why go out When you got the best thing going at home You know Well I think about this Like Nixon was probably like He probably saw like the you know sir mix a lot baby got back and was like shit like i was the president of the united states and i didn't get anything close to that music video i was in the 90s wasn't it yeah
Starting point is 02:22:07 sir mix lot was in the 90s but when he died i don't know but what if there were some tapes out there like the tapes that went missing it was just his is like mixtape and he was embarrassed that that congress was going to listen to it it's not ready yet it's not ready yet the hook's not We got to get a mixed and master first. It's just a rough draft. Yeah. All right. Well, that was Watergate.
Starting point is 02:22:35 I hope you guys enjoyed the recap. Hopefully we didn't fuck up too much stuff on that. Do we want to do voicemails? What is a macrodosing crew? This is Jimbo calling in from San Diego. First off, I just want to say, love the show. PFT, Aryan, Big T T
Starting point is 02:22:54 Oh shit I got a text Um And then Of course How could you forget Billy and Mad Dog Um
Starting point is 02:23:04 Mad Dog is a shit Um Anyway so my question for y'all Is Have you ever Saved anyone's life Or been in a situation
Starting point is 02:23:17 Where The person you were with Or a person that you saw Was in danger and you saved them. Shot off in the comments. Okay, good question. There was one time, so I saved a kid's life,
Starting point is 02:23:35 and he was trying to get on the bench press, and he had like 245 pounds on there. And God bless him, this kid was trying so hard, and he couldn't get it up, and he was about to fall and crush him on his windpipe. And I was standing behind him. I was like, I have to save this boy. And I reached down.
Starting point is 02:23:56 I mustered up all the strength that I could find. And I basically curled 245 pounds, just like the adrenaline goes through. You know? Like I'm normally not careful of doing that. Mom and bear. It's like mom, grandma, lifting up a car to save a baby from underneath. I lifted this thing up and by the grace of God. I rewracked the weight on my own.
Starting point is 02:24:16 And the kid never thanked me for it. But it's not, you don't do something like that for, people to be like thank you for saving my life you do it because it's the right thing to but yeah that was that was one time amen yeah what's that boy up to now oh god knows I don't I don't know I hope he's making something of his life shout out to you Eric thank you thank you I can't say that I've ever saved anybody's life other than like helping them like in a very real way
Starting point is 02:24:53 like physically actually saving the left I don't think about it than that yeah my answer is really boring I don't uh I can't recall a time where that's happened well uh
Starting point is 02:25:08 that was a lifeguard once it sounds like bullshit already it's not bullshit well I didn't really save anyone's life I had Wendy Prefricorn somebody thought No no I One time an old lady fell asleep Floating
Starting point is 02:25:26 And uh Jumped in and woke her up And she wasn't dead She just was asleep Great story Thank you for your service Billy Yeah All right anybody has anybody saved anybody
Starting point is 02:25:41 My dad saved three lives That doesn't surprise me What did he do? He's pulled someone out of a burning car He gave CPR to someone who had a hard sack at a Christmas party I believe it And I forget the last one He's the man
Starting point is 02:26:00 Yeah And something about there was like a fire Like a house fire Oh yeah He was a landlord in college For an apartment building And one of the apartments caught on fire And he pulled the whole family out
Starting point is 02:26:13 Wow Your dad? he saved two people three three people is this true because you know you know parents
Starting point is 02:26:25 stories over the years get more and more exaggerated like my dad survived the shark attack and now that I'm in the adult I don't believe that shit is right no and trust me like my dad loves to
Starting point is 02:26:36 make stories more entertaining but my mom was there for all three and she got you vouches for him yeah there's a story about my dad that I wouldn't believe
Starting point is 02:26:46 unless my mom vouched for it. We was at, I wasn't born yet. It was my mom, my dad, and I think it was just my sister at the time. My brother may have been an infant, but she tells this story great, but she says he was at, they was at the fair, like the fairgrounds, and she was, and it was like, these three dudes, like, circled them, and they were, like, hitting on my mom, like, on some creep shit. And then my dad was like, listen, man, we don't want no trouble.
Starting point is 02:27:14 Like, she was trying to, he was trying to, like, defuse this. situation that we don't want to problems and one of the dudes pushed my dad and my dad's six four though all right so shout to arian sad for saving loves we lost him oh no one time i pulled a dude who fell between two boats and tie up i was going to remind you of this because you've told this story i forgot about this story and he almost got crushed and i like pulled him out of the water and it was like a deadlift it was that was pretty sick that was actually saved him because he have gotten crushed. All right.
Starting point is 02:27:50 I think we're good for today. We can save that voicemail for next time. Yeah. That's fine. All right. All right, because I think Aaron dropped out. I think his Wi-Fi got shot on. All right.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Well, thank you guys for listening to macro dosing. We're going to see y'all next week. Next Tuesday? No, we'll have been two weeks. Good point. Good point. Two weeks. My bad.
Starting point is 02:28:13 I forgot about celebrating the, the birth of our great nation next week. We're going to see you guys in two weeks. We're going to miss you guys. We love you guys. Well, actually... I might put something out. I might put out a little extra dose next week.
Starting point is 02:28:29 It's going to be a limited drop. Well, Fourth of July, we will also have something dropping. We'll have an interview. Yes, we will. We'll have an interview coming out next week. But we will be back for a full episode, the Tuesday after next week. and get ready it's going to be it's going to be some awesome episodes with a lot of prep a lot of great stuff coming okay all right sounds good billy all right i guarantee it's a billy guarantee
Starting point is 02:29:14 Thank you.

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