Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Billy's Lightning Round (featuring Shawne Merriman)

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

On today's episode Billy answers you questions and we dig deep into the mind of Billy Football (1:00:34). Plus, the guys talk to former NFL linebacker, Shawne "Lights Out" Merriman (00:25:20). His show 'Shawne Merriman’s Lights Out Xtreme Fighting' returns LIVE to Fubo Sports on August 26.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Any former NFL players, maybe? Bussing, guys. Bussing. I think I get Compton. Remember last time you said that?

Yeah, right? Yeah, but I'm still going to come out is I don't care. Welcome back to macrodosing. And this is a very, very special macro dosing because the Barstool Awards are happening in Boston. So we are a couple hands short. But more than ever, we have McKenzie Mad Dog in Chicago and me in New York.

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Absolutely. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen. My favorite part is when Ken like discovered patriarchy and like they showed him him discovering the male world and him just like that was like I was like almost pissing my pants with laughter when he was like going to the school library and finding out about patriarchy. And he was like in horses. That was so funny. And he's like I'll take a high paying high influence job. Yeah. Yeah. You actually now that now that we're talking about it with you, You are so, Ken. What? A podcast, Ken? You are, your job is talking. Like, your job is podcast. My job is podcast.

Yeah. You, I mean, I think, I think there, the similarities are strong and plenty with, with, with, between you and Ken. The funniest thing was like, Ken didn't have a job. He was just beached. He's just beached Ken. Beach Ken. Yeah. And the whole, like, I get the whole like, flip side, like, how they're saying like Barbie world.

I mean, when Barbie first comes to the real world and she's like going to a construction site and like expecting to see like serious female energy like that was just hilarious. And Will Ferrell like made the movie for me. That was one of the reasons I went to see the movie. I was like Will Ferrell's in it? Okay, it'll be legit.

Interesting that that was your like number one. What, Will Ferrell? Yeah. Because I feel like he just didn't, he wasn't that big of a part in the movie. But he actually wasn't. He wasn't, but he like got. me to go see the movie because I was like oh if Will Ferrell's in it it's going to be pretty funny

yeah yeah I just I want to see the third time in the theaters I just love that movie I'm gonna buy it when it comes to like streaming services or you know I can just buy it on like prime video or something because I I just I love that movie I just want to watch it again and again also I really the one part I sorry to interrupt that's that's such a non Barbie world thing That's a real world Male interjection, sorry See, it's a Fem-pilled me

But one of the coolest parts Was like the history of Barbie They interjected Because it's like really funny That they had a discontinued Pregnant Barbie They had a discontinued I didn't know there was a boobs growing Barbie

Yeah, so I went for the second time with my mom And obviously she grew up in the time where all of those Barbies were coming out. I wasn't a big, like, playing with Barbie's person growing up. And she, like, every time a new Barbie came on screen, she'd like, I had that Barbie, I had that playhouse. And she was like, Skipper, the one that grows boobs, was my favorite Barbie. And I was like, what do you mean?

That was your favorite Barbie. She said, I loved Skipper because she was like the teenager, like, cool girl. And she was like, yeah, that's just what it was. Like, I don't know. Wasn't it soft? Like, isn't it sick? That's so, but yeah. And she's like, I had, like, I had mid.

Oh, yeah, my mom ate it up in terms of just Barbie lore. And also the... You learn a lot. The first scene being a rip-off of 2001 Space Odyssey was also hilarious. I was just like, oh, shit. But, and also the Ken battle scene was a mixture of Troy and, Band of Brothers D-Day scenes. Okay, I'm going to be so relaxed.

Not Band of Brothers. Saving Private Ryan D-Day. Oh, yeah. Weird. Like, there's certain shots that they just recreated with the Ken characters that were, like, almost shot to shot, just like Space Odyssey, but with Troy and Band of Brothers. So that was pretty cool. I don't know if there's any other movie references that they put in there that copied scenes. I read a whole thing about it of like the different movies that Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach

kind of took inspiration from and, you know, recreated like 2001 Space Odyssey and stuff like that. And there was, I think like singing in the rain there was a reference or something. There was a ton. Yeah, I did love the, and like the Kennergy song. Like, I'm just kidding. Oh, that sounds so good. Like, yeah.

It's all over my thing. Oh, and then there's, there's that one part in that song when, like, one of the dances that he does is the same dance that Ryan Gosling did when he was on like the Mickey Mouse or La La La Land? No, not La Land It was like the Mickey Mouse Kids or whatever

the fuck it was called. Someone's going to come at me but like whatever he got his start in the Mickey Mouse Kids group but yeah I'm glad you that is the mark of a good guy Billy liked the Barbie movie and enjoyed the Barbie movie and I enjoy I mean I get the whole

I get the whole like the double entangra like Barbary set a like a crazy standard and that stuff. Totally understand that. But the funniest thing was that like the Ken empowerment scene. It was like Rocky Balboa in a fur coat. Like the stuff that stuck with him, I thought was so funny. And when they came back to Barbie land, it was like brusky, brusky. Like, yo, get me a brusky. I love when they're watching The Godfather and Issa Rae comes in and she's like, oh, are you watching The Godfather?

And then he explains like the lore of the Godfather to her because it's like what it's just like every guy ever is like the Godfather is the best movie ever. And I like saw it. There was a TikTok of every like every letterbox review of Barbie that had like a one star review. And then the girl would go to their letterbox. And all of these guys, it was like Barbie so annoying. And all of their in their four favorites was. Um, godfather or godfather or goodfellas. It's just funny because a lot of it's so true.

Yeah. Yeah. The Mojo Dojo. You are, Billy, the part of my take studio is in fact a Mojo Dojo Casa house. It's the Kendom. Yeah, it is. You wrote Billy's office on the door. I mean, like, you have truly unironically voted Mojo Dojo House.

I admit, like, you know, it is unapologetically. But if you can't, like, if you see that and can't laugh at that, but, like, still love the godfather, still love all, like, the, the canned interests, then you got a real problem. Or when he's like, I kind of got disinterested when I learned patriarchy isn't about horses. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's kind of a lot of things that you would say, like, oh, I kind of got disinterested once I learned what it was actually about or something like that. It's not about dinosaurs? What the fuck?

Right. Yeah. You should get the, um, LCB put out a shirt that says patriarchy and Barbie font, and it's just a picture of a horse. I might, I might just do, I might get that Ken enough t-shirt. Oh, I am Ken enough. Yeah. Um, is this the movie that I saw your tweet last night that you put a whole entire Chick-fil-A,

deluxe meal in your cargo show? Yes. Okay. Where do you, can I ask a breakdown of what pockets hold what and how you, like, kind of fix a drink in there too. I was going to say, yeah, because you had a drink, you said, right? The drink's the hardest part.

Yeah. And you need to get, I would assume. Here's the, here's the cheat code. You need to get the Chick-Fleigh for pickup so they put the Uber Eats stuff on the drink. Oh, like Sran wrap and stuff. Smart. So you go, you got a good set of cargo pants or cargo shorts I was going. So the two side pockets, that's where you hit fries and the sandwich.

and then you put sauces in the fork you know uh i actually also got some mac and cheese which actually adds it up but that's that mac cheese is sealed remember pick up so they put the tape on it right right mac and cheese goes back right pocket drink goes back left pocket longer t-shirt put it over and then uh yeah sauces and utensils in front pockets and no and not One late, not one leak? Well, you kind of, you got to just like, it's not that bad unless you're doing something crazy. Like the studio, when you're going to the theater, like once you get past the person in the front, right? Then it's like, who cares?

Definitely doesn't care. No. Then you go straight at it. I just don't know if it's even that big of a deal anymore. Like, I don't, I feel like, I feel like you don't even need to have that level of secrecy or cargo anymore. You know what I mean? It was more fun in like middle school and high school. And I didn't really go to move.

movies in college. Right. Yeah. So now I'm just trying to like catch that same high. I know. I know. I going now that I've seen Barbie twice and I haven't really seen a ton of movies since COVID obviously. But like you do forget how fun of an experience going to the movie theaters is until you're there and you're like, this is like a nice little couple hour. Just break. Yeah. I like going to the movies. Yeah. I'm not on my phone. You know, I'm just kind of, I'm just kind of hanging and I'm just watching a good movie, getting some good popcorn. Like I kind of forget the nostalgia and like just good vibes that a movie theater has our friend um bob who does the dozen and LCB goes to like four movies a week he has one of those like the oh the

rewards because obviously he has to see a lot of movies for work and he i mean there is no one who has like curated a vibe quite like him for a movie theater i and he'll go on like a sunday at 1030 like hungover he'll roll up and like that's how he gets rid of the hangover just like watching whatever A-24 movie just got put out. Yeah, that is kind of nice. Yeah, I know. I just, I don't know. I just got to figure things out here.

I got to figure out where anything is here. Me and McKenna just talk about that. How is moving to Chicago for you guys? It's good. I finally, I was telling McKenzie, I've been through a bit of a process for just like setting everything up and just being alone and being like, I have to do this all in my own.

But finally kind of like settled. I just don't know where anything is. is, which I don't like. I don't like feeling not seldom and I don't feel like a stranger, feeling like a stranger my own home. And like New York's so easy because it's grid. So I'm like, okay, you know, it's like the John Mullaney joke. Like if I need to get to like 15th and first and I'm on 26th and second,

like I know where to go. Like you can do math. Yeah. Yeah. Here I'm like still learning all the street names and like, okay, this is on this street. But where, like, you know, it's just all of that kind of stuff. And I just don't know where anything is yet. It's kind of just frustrating.

There's a lot less people, like, out. Yeah. It's more, like, spread out. So that's been, like... It's creepy. Yeah, it's a little different. Because at least in New York, if there's a crazy person on the street, there's, like, 12 other people. Yeah, so it's, like, it doesn't matter.

But here, it's like... If it's you and a crazy guy, like... A little bit desolate, yeah. Just for, like, random parts of wherever. Right. And I... Yeah. Especially as a girl, I kind of...

I'm way more, I'm way more nervous here than I was. was in New York because of the, the, just less amount of foot traffic that's going on here. And it'll just take, like, getting used to. Right. Yeah. Because, like, New York is just completely different. Yeah. People always say, like, New York and Chicago are basically the same.

I do not think so at all. But it's just, it's just, and we're, McKenzie and I live in the same neighborhood. And where we live is just not as big of a walking around area, it doesn't seem. There's, like, certain parts. but then like you walk one street and there'll be like a bunch of stores and restaurants or whatever but then like down the street there's nothing so it's like that's that'll take some getting used to right yeah it's just it's just kind of scary being alone for the first time but that's just like that would be anywhere well you guys got each other like maybe for the first couple like right yeah

right big tea texted at us last night like it will it will be nice when everyone's here and the office is open yeah I think it'll be yeah because that'll be like great because all of us are kind of you know all in the same area and then we'll all you know it'll just be like normal like in new york where we were all kind of together all the time right now it's just it's just a different it's just a different vibe i'm not used to it quite yet but we'll get there yeah yeah how's new york new york's cool a lot of cool stuff happening at the office i made my uh sketch comedy debut last i saw you're an out of order yeah it was just a small part but uh yeah how'd you how'd you feel about that how was that well it's the whole vibe's fun we have like writers meetings i you know i

always i used to love watching s&l growing up and i'm just like everyone's kind of going for those vibes which is fun because you know everyone's collaborating collaborating like making ideas like you know i might write a song so you guys heard richmond north of richmond like the song that went viral that we listen to. So I was thinking like what if I like wrote a song that was like parody but just like hit all the right wing talking points and then like put to a tune and then just see if it could go viral. And that's just a sketch. And like I don't know my France is roasting my first writing thing on the yak because you had nothing else to bring to the table. Like I just like I just started writing like come on. Right. It's a process. You get on you get on

the yak one day. Anyway, I'm not going to talk shit, but, uh, but it has to discourage me from just keep me going. Um, because it's fun. I don't have a desk. I have an office. It's my, it's my, it's my kendom. What do you get to, what are you going to do when that's, when that turns into Barbie land? Uh, I'm going to, damn, I'm going to ask if I can chill. No, that won't happen. I'll probably get a desk. Honestly, you'll join Plambri. Right. Yeah, I'll just join Plambri. just be in the corner just like with a desk and they'll just be like hey we need a male perspective and it'll be like I just won't talk any other time yeah yeah if they really need me hopefully only one called upon right you and Zach Ryan are the male figures on plan

brie uncut now that's how has you been talking on it uh they talk about him on there he's been he's I think had a slight cameo he'll he'll be in the background background is like a zoom yeah he's just singing revival in the back and a low tone seeing that first hand was nuts also what we were talking about before how are you feeling from this morning oh yeah um

so I put out I kind of finally tested positive for alpha gal syndrome which was kind of nice because before like if you hadn't noticed like on a couple episodes of you know part of my take macrodosing my face just looked fucking terrible

like I had like swollen lip fucked up red marks and shit and I like didn't really want to talk about it until I really knew what was going on but I got bit by the lone star tick and I made some content out of it at the time I was like holy shit I might not be able to eat red meat or exercise or drink alcohol and I probably jinx myself because it ended up happening so you know it took a lot of different allergists and I was lucky but also I was lucky that I didn't go into anaphylactic shock any of the times it happened like my throat didn't close up I just got hives my face like would blow up look like I went 12 rounds with Muhammad Ali and my like um but I mean there's so many people with way

worse medical problems than not being able to eat red meat um but like so are you just not I was just going to eat it anymore? Basically, basically I can eat it, but I have to take a shit ton of Benadryl and then my face won't blow up, but I'll just break out the hives, which is kind of worth it,

but that's not really sustainable. This is like your worst nightmare. Yeah. Benadry like puts you to sleep too. Yeah. Also, yeah, don't take that much Benadry all the time. I know, I know. It's citrusy.

Just to have like your steak and eggs. I know. I'm just eating steak and eggs with Benadryl on top. side of Benadryl Yeah Snorts Benadryl That's

Give me that stick So are you going to become like a Hadid sister and become a Lyme's disease survivor No I just got So we were talking about this before I just got blood drawn this morning Because I got you know bit by tick Doctors just want to make sure I don't have limes

Even though I'm not showing symptoms It's just You don't want to you know If I do have it they can hit it early And it doesn't develop something down the line, but even though I feel strong as an ox. But oxes can get Lyme disease and get weaker and it just hits them later in life. But no, it sucks, but like there's so much worse shit.

But I just wanted to talk about it. So people who like might get bit by like just be more aware of ticks. They suck. Fucking ticks are the worst thing ever. They cause Lyme's disease, which is way worse than what I have. But it was funny seeing people with Lyme disease be like, yo, do. Dude, I much rather have limes than what you have because I don't know what I would do if I couldn't eat red meat exercise and drink without breaking out to hives. Yeah, like grass is always greener.

Yeah, but there's so much worse shit. But it was just funny. So I made a TikTok about it, you know, just because, like, I didn't really know what else to do. Like I had, so I just like, fuck, I just got this thing. Like, I'll just make it into content. That's the best part about being the content creation space. just like if you got a problem just like making into content and it kind of like makes it better I don't know is that like bad no no I think that's like our whole jobs yeah yeah and like maybe

people have solutions or like maybe people can relate to you and they're like oh I'm not crazy you can't eat me either maybe you can form a safe space for people like with tick-borne illnesses red meat anonymous yeah that's really like you whenever you see billy at at the barsooff is eating, there's like an 87% chance that he's eating steak and eggs. So that's a big blow just to your, just to your diet. And I, I've known you long enough to know your steak and eggs addiction is real. Now, but what's cool is there is, like, they say there's no cure. And like a bunch of, I think it's sort of just gone mainstream because people like finding out

this rare thing has been happening to way more people than they think. Like it was in the New York Times like last week. um but with that there is like an acupuncture thing which i thought acupuncture was total bullshit but i'm gonna make some i'm gonna like like let's i'm gonna go to this acupuncturist i'm gonna film it and be like fucking put those needles in my ears and let me eat red meat again and let's see if this works because then if i get it on paper that it works then i like people with the same thing as me can like eat red meat again by the way i'd like there's people with way worse medical problems than this but like it's just what you're doing just sharing your experience

yeah no I my I want to get acupuncture just I just want to try it but my dad did actually acupuncture for a really long time for stomach problems and it worked and he would put magnets they would tape magnets to his hands for some something with like a blood flow but he would have little magnets taped on his hands and he would do acupuncture all the time and it really helps and it I think it like depending on what you do it for and how you know often you do it I think it can really also release a lot of like tension in your body I think it would be like again I don't really know the science behind acupuncture but I think it would I think it has a lot of benefits for a lot of different things like I don't think it's I don't think it's bullshit at

all George Kill has acupuncturist on staff which is like yeah my neighbor's growing up one time got acupuncture for their dog which is like the funniest thing ever um that's a very i'm so glad arian's on here that's such a white people no oh yes it was like so funny but it helped whatever i forget why but the the dog they like recommended acupuncture and they got it and it's so funny i i do want to do it i that and cupping i want to try cupping um not that i have any crazy medical issues or i do anything super athletic at this point in my life just i just feel like maybe i'm living with something I don't even know. Like maybe cupping will make it like maybe I'm at 90 and the and that I don't even know what my

100 is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's crazy how especially with soft tissue issues that the science has changed on healing. Like it used to be like reduced blood flow to the area to make sure swelling goes down. But that now they're figuring out that actually hurts the healing process and you want to increase blood flow but just compress it for the swelling so that's the whole like idea behind cupping is just like getting all that blood to one place so that if it's you know needs healing the blood's there to you know give it the nutrients it needs to heal which is it's like been a switch in the past like five 10 years probably that they're like reduced blood flow to the area of an injury to get that blood flow there but

compress it and so the swelling stops really interesting stuff it is I do like learning about all that stuff I do want to go see an acupuncturist just to see I don't want to do cupping though because it's basically a like a penis pump on your skin

what they look exactly it's kind of weird wait I didn't hear it would you say a penis pump yeah yeah that that's we can just move on on from there. It's weird. Yeah, it's weird.

Okay. But moving on. Before we get into the lightning round, we have our awesome interview with Sean Merriman. I really enjoyed talking to him. PFT enjoyed talking to him, talking about some really awesome stuff. So let's get into it.

All right. Welcome on. A special guest. It's Sean Merriman. Lights out. You know him. Lights out Extreme Fighting is coming to Fubu Sports on October 26th. You can find it on Fubu Sports coverage beginning at 7 p.m. Pacific, 10 p.m. Eastern. It's free.

Fubu's a free live, free to consumer TV network, leading sports first TV streaming platform. Very excited to see that. That's August 26. Sean, thank you for joining macrodosing. Big fan of your work as a terror-inducing linebacker on the field. Now you're branching out to other businesses. So thanks for joining us. Give us something to look forward to in this fight. Yeah, man, it's going to be big because this is our first time in San Diego. You know, obviously my stumping rounds took me like a year and a half to get this deal done.

But, yeah, as you said, we'll be live on football TV, football sports. So if you don't have that, get it, it's going to be a big one. If you're going to be there in San Diego and you want to come to the fight, which you should, lights out.x.com is a website to get your tickets. But this is cool for me, man, because this is my, you know, since leaving San Diego to get a chance to go back and throw a big ass fight, man. been cool. Have you thought about get into the fighting game yourself? I mean, yeah, I still I'm sparring later on the day. I still sparred two three days a week. But you know, so I do that man to stay in shape, right? Now I do I do spar pro pro-MMA fighters. I'm not going to pat

myself in the back and say I'm the greatest things in slight spread. I'll let them talk about my skill level, some of these guys I've been in there with. But I've been around this for 17 years. You know, I've been in there with some of the best in the business. My first day in the gym, It was back in 2005, 2006, with Randy Couture. That was my first day doing MMA ever. And so, you know, I've been around some of the best. So it's cool to run and operate light side extreme fighting and live sports, man, in general, is just like a beast.

Yeah, Billy actually, Billy stepped in the ring against Jose Canseco, won an O lifetime. He knocked out Jose Canseco. Pretty impressive. Oh, that ain't, they ain't, too. I mean, I mean, look. Hey, wait, you know, you know, have you ever fought professionally? Do you have a wreck, like?

No, no, I haven't, man. Like, and you know, like, fighting is one of these, like one of these things you don't try out, right? You don't, oh, I'm going to go play a pickup game, LA Fitness. Like, I'm going to go shoot some hoops today. No, you either fight or you don't. And the athletes who kind of got into it and they wasn't prepared, they got their ass knocked out. And I'll tell anybody that said, if you're not mentally, and physically and ready to go forward

and put this thing in the cage to the ring, man, don't do it. It ain't for you. Well, check out Rough and Rowdy. It's a three one-minute rounds. I just saw it. I just, I watched the redneck fight. Yeah, yeah.

What did you think about Rough and Rowdy? It's crazy shit, isn't it? Yeah, it's, you know, it's entertainment, man. Like, you know, I get so upset when people, like, get mad at the Jake Pauls of the world and these YouTubers or social media stars it's like you got to separate it to separate it to right do you want to see

high level boxing or do you want to see entertainment like I don't take Paul's fight with Nate Diaz if anybody's looking for that to be a high caliber boxing match is out of their damn mind they don't know combat sports but was it entertaining and worth buying yes I mean I thought it was hell man Nate and try to go

for the damn gear team like that's that's craziness right but it was entertaining and we all got our money's worth yeah I think that if the fight had gone 20 if he had gone 25 rounds Nate Diaz would win he would beat anybody if there was a 25 round fight because he's the craziest thing he's going to keep coming forward I've never seen anybody even I know he got knocked

down I forgot which round that was whatever Jay called him with a great shot and I don't think we've ever seen Nate knocked down like that but at the end of the day man when you got somebody that's just going to walk forward no matter what you're not scary that shit is man to be honest to fight somebody or even go against somebody that's just going no matter what you can do to them, they're going to keep walking forward. That pressure is ridiculous.

Yeah, pretty much like a zombie coming at you. You can't kill him. He's unkillable. Sean, can we go back and talk a little bit about your childhood growing up? You're a D.C. guy. I'm from the D.C. area as well. Grew up rooting for the Redskins. Still now a commander's fan that's in my blood.

It'll never go away. Very excited about this upcoming season, new ownership, all that stuff. So you grew up in the D.C. area, right? And I remember when you were in high school, and the story later took on kind of a life of its own. So maybe you can tell us what's real and what's fiction. I remember when you were playing in high school, the parents in the area got together and they said,

that guy can't play against our sons. That guy's too dangerous. We're not going to allow him to play football because he's too good. Am I getting that right? Or was that something that's kind of evolved, like the myth of Sean Merriman lights out? No, that happened. You know, after I knocked out, my sophomore,

year, Frederick Douglass High School in up in Auburn, Maryland. I knocked out four kids in one game. And the next game that we had was at home, we had some parents. We used to walk through the basketball courts, and there was an offense that we all walked through to get on the football field. And we had a couple parents that kind of stood in and tried to block me from getting on the field and said that the coaches were trying to keep me back. That was two or three years older than I actually was, not knowing that I was the youngest

guy out there, and that they didn't want me on the field with their sons. You know, they try to block me from playing. So, yeah, those things happen, man. Because they thought it was a Danny Almonte situation, like in the Little League World Series, were you had a fake birth certificate or something? Yeah, and they were, they were petitions and going to the school, going to the coaches to make them send them my birth certificates because they thought that that was two or three years older, at least than with the coaches were leading on

to believe. And I was the youngest on the team. So, you know. That's, it's so tricky because like you're doing, you're playing as well as you can. You're injuring people. But at what point, like, if you start to play at a slower speed or slower pace, then you're more likely to get injured yourself. And if you're not going 100 percent, did you ever feel bad?

Like when you knocked the fourth kid out of the game, where you like maybe I shouldn't be playing. Maybe I'm too good at football. No, I was happy about it. It was, look, it was a different time, right? like those things were applauded, right? Like, it was just a plot. So when I grew up in PG County, and you know back in the 80s and 90s, man, that that wasn't a place that you wanted to be, right? Like outside of DC area,

like that was a, I mean, it was rough. I think we were like top five or top 10 murder capital in the country at that time. It was insane. And so I just grew up in a rough environment where playing like that was the only thing I knew. And so I never like diverted into going in. My intention was the cause harm to somebody for those four quarters I was playing football. And that was just it. Yeah. Billy, you got a question? So did you knock him clean out like they were unconscious all four? No. So a couple of the guys, like one of the four backs, I broke his collarbone. He laid up on me on the power play. I came and I broke his collarbone. He left again. He did go out for a minute, but he got up and walked on the field and never

return. So it was a, it was a, um, like a combination of guys, one of the guys on special teams I had knocked this, knocked this, uh, two thousand, like, you know, fractured his jaw. You know, he left, he left the game. So yeah, it was like a couple of guys did get knocked out, you know, concussion wise and left. So it was a combination, man, of, of them leaving a game. I'm not, I can't sit it back here and say out, everybody was put to sleep and it was out, but it was a combination of, of guys leaving the game and not coming back in. I mean, that's a way to earn an amazing nickname. Now, moving on. it's your NFL career who's we've had a lot of debate on the show uh with

arian um who his uh his favorite quarterback to uh see play but who's your favorite quarterback to sack when you were in the league who's the guy that you're just like this guy's a doe boy i'm gonna hit him he's my favorite guy to hit and like compared to the others it was always tom yeah because you know the thing is with tom outside him being a great quarterback man, like he was such a competitor. And so like when you hit him, Tom would look at at this time like he's not supposed to be hit, right? Like it was one of those things where like, dude, you're serious? And so I remember when I was in my freshman, my sophomore year in college at Maryland, I ended up convincing Ray Lewis's younger brother, Keon Lattimore. He came to play

running back at the University of Maryland, so I got close to Ray. And I remember Ray telling me that if you wanted to be remembered, you had to play great against the great quarterbacks, right? That was the Peyton Man, he's Ben Robertsberger, Tom Brady, those guys. Like, if you want to be mentioned up there with the great, you had to have great games against them. And so if you look back in my career against Peyton, you know, I probably have five or six sacks or seven sacks. Tom Brady got him at least four, you know, three or four times, if not more, a bunch

of hits on him. So it's Ben Robertsburg. I got them all. And so I had this mentality like, yo, if you want to be mentioned up there with the best, you got to go and get the best. And that's what I did. Yeah. We've talked to Vaughn Miller before, and he always says that his favorite quarterback to sack

was actually your teammate, Philip Rivers, because he would make these hilarious noises when he'd get sacked. And then he'd get up and start talking shit to you, but he would never cuss, right? You ever hear him cuss? Not once. Not once. It was one day, it was one day in practice where he had a bunch of turnovers. Because we would go at each other in practice so bad.

It was worse than the games. and we were just kicking off his ass so bad, and I thought Philip was going to curse for the first time. I thought we had him, and he didn't. And I was like, man, if he didn't curse, then this dude really don't curse. But, you know, he would say everything. Did you see the clip with Yonik when he threw the long touchdown? And he was like, 90-yard touchdown, not in his ear.

And so when I see, me knowing Philip and playing with him, when he lowered his voice and changed his voice, like, I am going to be a year. I am going to be a year. When he said that, I knew right there that Philip was trying to get under his skin because that's what he would do. You know, Philip would do things.

And he wasn't like that just on the field. It wasn't like, oh, okay, just don't practice. This dude was like this. It's doing in a weight room. And the cafeteria lunch while you're eating. In the film room, it never stopped. He was always going to challenge and compete with you and talk trash. It just never stopped throughout the day.

Do you remember some of the words that he used to use instead of cuss words? I think Danny Woodhead was telling us some of them. It's like gracious, gracious to Petrus would be something he would say a lot. Dagnabit. Dagnappet. Dagnappet was his go-to.

When he said Dagnavitt, I knew he was really pissed off, but that was the most you're going to get out of him. Yeah, all-time competitor. Now, follow-up, who do you think was the best quarterback you ever played against? I know people are not people want to say this or say something about it or complain but Peyton oh yeah if I'm if I'm a GM and I'm starting the team I'm starting with Peyton and yeah I know the people want to say oh you know Tom the rings and how great he has

he has the greatest quarterback but I'm talking about as far as individual talent if you're starting a team you're GM I'm going with Peyton Maddie because of its intangelo's pay dude Peyton was like unreal like some damn machine that knew what you were doing call the stone plays, redirecting out there, and be able to analyze one side of the field to the other side of the field and the blink of a knot and start telling you what you're going to be doing. You know, Peyton would, like, he's the ultimate, stronger arm, more mobile, better and tangible.

So if I'm a GM, I'm starting it with Peyton Mani. Better than Rogers in both in their primes? Yeah. I think so. He wasn't, look, he wasn't as flashy or had the capabilities as AirRour. Aaron Rogers, like, he, you know, it just worked magic, rolling out the pocket. Like, Peyton can never do that. But when it came down to it, Peyton and the intangibles, man,

was just on another level and all these guys. What are you thinking about that, big tea? Love that. Yeah. That's the right call. That's a spicy tank. He's the goat. I appreciate it.

You were also a part of maybe the best commercial of all time. You know the one I'm talking about? I still think it's real every time I watch it. The one where it's you and Stephen Jackson, it's like leave, nothing on the field. I remember watching that and I was like, I think all this stuff actually happened in games. How exhausting was it to film that commercial?

Were you actually like going all out and making real hits? Or was that the magic of television where they're editing you into stuff? No. So Michael Mann, you know, the great Michael Mann, the director, he was the next level, right? So he showed up like an hour or less right before we about to start shooting in his helicopter, But drop that shit right on the field. And I was just like, in awe. I was like, hold on.

You know, we're sitting here. We're dressed up. We're ready to go. Michael Man, still not here. We just hear a chopper just going to come dropping down on the field. He drops. And then we start shooting a commercial 45 minutes later. I'm like, what just happened?

And so when he got here, when he landed, and I've already met him through L.T.' L.T. had a commercial. Dania had a commercial, a Nike commercial that he shot. That's how we formed a relationship. And Michael looks at me and said, okay, we got a, we got a stunt devil, a stunt guy. That stunt guy was Tony Gonzalez's brother, Chris Gonzalez. And so I'm looking, he got my tacks and everything else. I'm looking at him and I'm saying, what do you all?

I asked Michael, man, I said, what is he here for it? Right? Like, I'm looking like, oh, what is he? We guys got a stunt for him. He said, oh, you know, so you can do somebody to say, no, I'm here. I'm doing my own damn things. So everything was in there I did except for one shot

So there was a shot in there You know what I'm talking about When the Raiders guy We hit him in the helicoptered So We had These are all actors They were out there

I went and hit that guy 10 times Right He ended up getting like a concussion Or something like that And he couldn't land properly on the on the pads And so they came to me

It was like Sean One more this is he going to quit Right So we got bring somebody else in there to at least get the this scene right so that that was the only scene that they swapped out after i did it 10 times of the guy he just he couldn't take he couldn't take enough to hit he was like i'm it that's it that poor guy that poor actor he he showed up for work that day and if you have watched the commercial go watch it's on youtube it's amazing uh he showed up to

work and he was like so i'm not actually going to get hit by sean merriman right they're like no don't worry about it's going to be a stunt double you're going to be fine then he goes out there and gets lit up 10 times. If you watch the helicopter, I'm like, it's a violent collision. I was watching that. I was like, there's no way that they actually had Sean Merriman out there making tackles. But holy shit, that's a bad day of work for that guy.

Oh, I felt terrible, right? The first couple of times, and I'm sitting there, I'm like, I can do it 20 more times, but I'm realizing this guy is going through it. And he's not right. So like after the six or seven time, I said they might have to bring somebody else in there. I think he actually did end up getting a concussion at some point. And so Chris Gonzalez came in it and did that one scene for us. It's a great commercial.

Big T, you got anything? Yeah. So Billy mentioned briefly, Arian Foster, who's on this show with us. He couldn't be here today, unfortunately. But I was just curious, did you play against Arian ever? And if so, what were the conversations in the defensive meetings like that week? Like, how mid was he? Like, we're not concerned about this guy.

I would, uh, there's a different. I like Eric a lot, man. He's a different cat, though. He, you know, he was very in tune with his body, and I followed his career and how he has approached his, I think his intellect, man, it was just a lot different any football player that I probably ever came across to. I can't remember if he was on that 2007 team or not when it came to us. We had these big wildfires in San Diego that happened in 2007, so we had to go and actually

practice in Arizona at the Cardinals practice facility before the game. So if I did play against Arian, it was run at 2007, 2008. But we won that game, so I'm not, you know, I don't know if he did a whole lot if he did play. So you were not afraid of Arian Foster and his past blocking ability. Is that what you're telling me? What pass blockability? Is there anybody that you were afraid of besides Maurice Jones Drew? You know, look, I wasn't afraid of him then.

And, you know, I found out that little sucker pack of punch. No, I wasn't, I wasn't afraid of anybody, but I think that in 2007, when Agent Peterson broke that Russian record on us, I don't think I've seen anything like that. My job, I practice with L.T. every day with Danny, man. Like, I watched him, you know, for years. But that day, I've seen somebody do something I've never had on a football field ever, especially against other pros. AP went nuts that day. You know, in fact, man, it's crazy. Because I didn't know what the hell got. into him. He rushed almost 300 yards, right? So I'm like, what in the hell is going on? This dude is like on another level. We go to

we go to Timbo's charity golf thing and he has every years down in Jacksonville. And so I'm sitting on a bus in my first time after I think around 2011 or 12, maybe 13, somewhere around there. First time I talked to AVP about this. So he's sitting

behind me. I turn around. I said, now dude, I need you to be honest, right? Who says something about your mother before the game? I was like because that's how he that's how we played he played like someone said something or did something to his family and I said dude what in the hell got into she I said what the hell got into you that day what were you thinking and his response was that LT was on the other side he wanted to show up Ladinian like that that was his that was his whole thing and so I called that I called LT I texted LT out there I said thanks dude appreciate it

thanks a lot because this this guy just went just went crazy on a $2.97 or something like that. Yeah, that was an insane game. Adrian Peterson's prime was just, he was completely different. I like going back and watching his high school mixtapes too because that dude in high school was just unfair. He was just a man amongst children out there. Going back to the MJD clip, it's a famous, it's a famous shot.

I think it's talked about a lot because he was a smaller guy, right? So he got under your chin a little bit. Is that the hardest? Is that the most you've ever gotten got? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Because if you look back at that clip, and one thing that when people talk about that, no doubt, Maurice got me. No question about it. If you look at that clip, they cut out the part where Greg Jones, the fullback, he was hauling ass down the field right at me, like right dead at me. And anybody that don't know anything about Greg Jones out of Florida State. I played in Maryland. So I played against me in Florida State. This dude looks unreal. Like 255 pounds. and like 6% body fat. I mean, just ridiculously big. So Greg Jones was running straight at me.

So I'm gearing up to load up against Greg Jones. I'm thinking he's going to try to take my head off. Yeah. And right when I stopped to kind of take on the contact, he goes by me and veers off to the right. And right when he veers off to the right, Maurice Jones drew is right behind him, you know, standing at 5, 6, 245, 50 pounds, whatever he was.

And when I tell you, it felt like a dynamite went off like under my face, mass like I didn't I didn't see him and you know the crazy thing was I didn't I heard the crowd ooh they did that or whatever but I got up you know I try to get up as fast as fast I could I want nobody to see that shit right I got up and I'm like try to hurry and play it off like nobody's seen it crowds owing non I didn't know how bad it was then so I got a I got we got on the plane we got home by the time that we landed back in San Diego there were like three commercials made out of that hit for the NFL. And I would, that now I was pissed, right?

Yeah. You know, I'm like, in football, do you play long enough? You will, somebody's going to put you on your ass. Somebody, somebody will, it's a part of the get, somebody you will get guys. Somebody's going to get you. But at that point, I've never been hit before. I got home, landed.

You know, I would go home and put some ice on my knees and I'm icing up or whatever, and I turn on the sports channel. And they got three commercials already made. And I said, who and what editing house got a, got a, got a turnover of like because the flight's five hours right and by the time we landed they got commercials full on commercials already done yeah i'm like this some bullshit you know i was like man this is crazy yeah i mean you you also got a lot of people too over your career so i think it was more of a shock to everybody it's like this guy can also get got when like you're saying if you

play football long enough it happens to you from your perspective as defensive player i know you liked playing it you always stepped your game up against the uh the superstar quarterbacks like you mentioned earlier, was there another defensive player, like how you're saying, AP stepped it up against Ladanian Tomlinson? Was there a defensive player that you saw and you're like, I need to go out there and show out today because this dude over there is watching me. I want to let him know him in the same level. It was, you know, always, it was Ray Lewis. Like when we played the Ravens because, you know, that was like my older brother. Like that was, um, Levar Arrington, too. When he was playing over there, Ben Redskins, he was like.

an older brother to me. So whenever I played those two, I wanted to outplay them. I wanted to outplay those guys every single time. And we had the Ravens, I think, in San Diego, 2007 or whatever it is. And I got a sack or two in that game, got one on Jonathan Ogden. I'm happy as happy as hell about. And then Ray had ended the game by hitting Darrys in the backfield, like TFL game over, game done. And he got me. So I was like, damn, you know, I hate that. I hate being outplayed by, you know other guys and he was one of them yeah i mean you were a great player and you you made some good money in the NFL uh do you ever though go back and think to yourself like man if i played in the late 20 teens or early 2020 is the way that they're playing guys that can get

after the quarterback right now you ever think about how much money you would have gotten on those contracts all the time all the time not as much now because i'm i'm really far out the game but when i retired um like around 2000 i retired 13 2013 but i went by 2017-18 is where the money started to really turn. Even for guys that was coming off the bench, you know, making $5 to $7 million a year off the bench, like these guys got six, seven sacks a year, making $5 or $6 million.

I'm like, hell, man, I'd probably have been, you know, getting paid $20 million a year at that point. Yeah, it would have been nice. Billy, you got some else? Yeah, besides MJD, was there any other players that not you had any highlight collisions with, but were just the hardest hitting on the offensive side of the ball?

any fullbacks or one guy's that you ran into and like, holy, he packed a bigger punch than I thought. Lorenzo O'Neill, my teammate. We do, like, low-neal was something different, man. Like, you're talking about a pit bull or somebody walking around 5, 10, 5, 11, 255, and just yoked. And so we used to go out of so much in practice. We used to have to come up with his brother-in-law system, right? Because somebody wasn't going to make it to the game.

We were just going to keep trying to take each other's heads off and, like, We came to a conclusion when I do, like, we need to be healthy because drop the pride, drop the ego, we're teammates, with family, and we need to stop. So we would get to the point where we would get about a foot away from each other and just pull up. The coaches didn't say anything. They didn't say, hey, you guys need to finish the play. You know, everybody understood, like, this needs to stop because somebody isn't making

it to the game if we keep doing this. I know, I missed this. You was a great player. Awesome fullback. We had him in the studio one time. This was like three years ago, and we had him and Mike Allstadt together. So we did a special fullback day. And we got a bench press that's set up behind Billy right there.

You might be able to see some of it. But we put 135 pounds on it. And then we put it on incline press. Guess how many reps Lorenzo Neal did before he kind of got bored and quit? At 135? Yeah, this was like three years ago, four years ago. I'm guessing 35 to 40 I think it was 70

I think he did it 70 times and then he was like all right well I can just keep going on because he's got like he's got short forearms but he's strong as hell so he was just like super just going rapid fire on those things just a fucking beast

my rookie year when I came in and I came to camp late so I didn't show up you know the whole all season because of the contract situation. So I started working out with Lorenzo Neal. And Loneil, like, it's 12 or 13 years. I would try to keep up with him in a weight room because he was such an animal.

He was like just a different breed. Yeah, he's a monster. I think he's the greatest blocking fullback of all time. If you looked at the running backs that he blocked for how they, he had, I think, 10 consecutive seasons blocking for a thousand yard running back. And there were different running back. too. It wasn't just L.T. every time. He's got one of the best resumes.

I think he should be in the Hall of Fame, but that's... No, no, you know, I was just by to say that people are not, like, he's the last of the dying breed. Low-nails should 100% be in a Hall of Fame. Look who he's blocked for, as you just said. You know, the longevity of fullback playing that long in the NFL and that effective for that many runnersbacks and that many teams, I had to deal with him every day in practice. But how he's not in the Hall of Fame, I would never understand that because there would never be another Lamar's O'Neill. That position, they don't even make important anymore.

Yeah. They're changing into like an H-back if they use a fullback at all. It's a product of the rule changes, though. So every single rule change that has been put into place in the last 15, 20 years favors the offense. They want higher scoring games. They want more passing. They want more points in general. And so they're always taken away from the defense. It would be nice if they gave, you know, if they gave like some benefit to the defense every now and again and and made a rule change that impacted you guys as opposed to just making it harder for you to do your jobs. Because I feel like it's never

been harder to play defense in the NFL than it is right now. I made a joke the other day on Twitter. I said I had a poll going on how many fines that I would get. What was the cornerback that had to hit the other day? They got a $43,000 fine in the preseason name. And

I'm looking at that hit and it couldn't be even more cleaner than it was. It was a perfect, if I'm going to talk to high school kids or boys and girls club kids. And I'm saying, guys, this is the way to, that, that's the way to do it. It was a perfect clean hit. If I played today, man, I would just take all my paychecks and I was just right before the season and take it up the stairs to the GM or front of office and say, here you go. Because I know I'm good for 15 fines this year. No problem. Yeah. Juan Alexander.

Yes. He was. Yeah. That was, that was a clean hit, man. That was, that was literally a beautiful hit. It couldn't be, it couldn't have been any better. And they get that FedEx, that $43,000 fine, that following week. I would have just passed out of my locker. How does that work when you get the fine from the NFL? Randy Moss famously said straight cash, homie, and so he was going to pay his fine. Would you write a check?

Would you mail it? Did you have to go to a post office and put a stamp on it and then mail a check to Roger Goodell? What's that like? Look, I still, to this day, don't use FedEx because that's what those fines came in. Like, whenever I see a FedEx envelope, I just get like PTSD, dude.

I can't even like look at them. so they just take it out of your check you know so when you get fine they just take it out of your check you can appeal it reduce it um if they go back and look at alexander's hit i if they don't dismiss it completely they should reduce it you know by 80 or you know it's just it was such a clean hit man i couldn't imagine being in that position yeah i think arian would just get fine for like wearing his socks too high right that was his thing yeah he said socks a lot he would just like accept the fact that he's going to pay there are twenty thousand dollars socks per game that he he was going to wear.

What they'll do is they'll, you know, you'll find you 15, 20,000. If it's a sock infraction, you know, reduces down pay, you know, you pay $5,000. You kind of negotiate with NFL, but you're going to get fine. They're going to get their money. That's, that's for sure. It's very funny to me that there's a guy that goes back and watches NFL tape every single week looking at where people's socks are on the field. Like going over the plays with a fine-tooth comb.

No, every week. Every week, and you're going around in the warm-ups, and they'll come and tap you a couple times and give you a warning, but sometimes they don't. You know, they just watch you on the field or watch you on the sideline. They won't say anything next to you know that following week.

You got a FedEx. Ain't really too much you can do about it. I think I remember seeing something with Mike Dup, and it was Merton Hanks, maybe. The old 49ers player who's now pretty high up in the NFL, and he was on the sideline, just like patrolling, looking at people's legs, going out to people, hey, you need to get those socks down, buddy,

have the pants cover those knees. it's just crazy that the NFL is like so structured that somebody's job is to go go over those and do that. Big T, you got another question? Yeah, you may have, I guess, kind of already answered this. You said you were training with Randy Couture like 15 years ago, however long. But I was going to ask, did, were you always interested in MMA or is that kind of a natural progression once you're done with football and you're like, I need somebody to hit? No, you know, I was actually, I actually just started it to work on my hand eye coordination being an act of using my hands as outside linebacker like that was everything um and i just saw dude i had randy could tour about 50 pounds and i got in there

and then randy was like ragged all in the shit out you know he was like and i couldn't i couldn't figure out like what was going on bigger than him i'm stronger than him and somehow some way we're pumbling and he would just throw me around and i and i could not figure it out and i was i walked out of that day feeling defeated dude i'm like this just can't be real. And so I started to train with these guys more and more and more like when Tyrone Woodley and all these guys are just coming on the scene in the mid-2000s, like I was in a gym with all of them and training. And so I, and I try to tell anybody, like right now, the reason why I'm in MMA is because I'm trying to transition some of these guys into combat sports.

Like there's football players right now that is not, they're not going to play 10 years. They're not going to have the long career. They're not going to make all the money they want. They might get cut, traded, waved, and might be done. And these guys are still ready to go. And that's why, you know, I'm working on transitioning some, a lot of these guys into lights off extreme fight. All right. Well, we'll check it out. It's, it's August 26. I got one last question for you about fighting. Maybe just like a tip, if you're putting on fights, I know you've had some words back and forth with him in the past, but anytime you can get Greg Hardy to fight on TV and just get his ass kicked, America will watch that. There's nothing

that we love more than watching Greg Hardy get his ass beat by somebody who's much better than you know um i feel bad for dude man because you know as a as a as a former football player right you want these guys to excel and i and i know that people hate gregg hardy and in some parts he's got good reason too he's done he's been a you know asshole jerk some time back in the day but i wanted to see that i wanted to see him succeed you know and i actually thought that he had he had a short stint in the ufc where he well he actually looked he looked pretty good he was going against championship caliber guys and then he started getting knocked out and he started all getting knocked out.

He's been knocked out of his last four fights. And I think he got one more boxing fight coming up. If he gets knocked out again, man, you know, he got to hang it up. You know, you can't go from where you were to getting knocked out, knocked out. And this sport, man, it ain't for everybody. Like, you got to be in it because that's just going to keep happening. You're going to keep getting knocked out. He had a good fight against Rockman Jr., though, right?

Yeah, but he had about 60 pounds, right? You know, like, come on. You know, you're fighting a guy. You're bigger than him. You should win. Rockman is really good. He's a really good fight. He almost had that fight with Jake Paul.

That didn't happen. He got done dirty in that. I was reading about some of the, the rehydration clause that they're trying to put on him. You know, in the fight game, these Jake Paul fights, I kind of want to see some of the contracts. I want to kind of see what exactly is going on in there because I'm not too sure about it's entertainment yeah it's it's entertainment but you know you got to when you're fighting on a jac well because it's a jac paul card right it's his promotion you're going to play you're going to have to play by his rules and if you you're not going to play by his rules and that's just what it's

going to be and people can dislike that or not um but if he got a clause and say you you know a weight or rehydration or whatever that whatever that may be you got to do it you know and he didn't he didn't he failed to do that um but yeah break break hardy you know like he's He got him by 60 pounds, man. I wasn't really too surprised about that fight. Well, Jose Canseco had Billy by like 80 pounds, and Billy beat his ass. Billy knocked him out in the first round.

Good job, Billy. 60, 60 pounds. 60 pounds. 60 pounds difference, yeah. 60, 80. You whipped his ass, man. You probably did a lot of people out here in favor. Yep.

All right. Well, Sean, thank you for joining us, man. Again, you can check it out in Fubo. It's August 26. Starts at 7 p.m. Pacific, 10 p.m. Eastern. Sean Merriman's lights out Extreme Fighting It returns live to Fubo Sports

And San Diego And San Diego first time in San Diego So you guys get your tickets AtlightsoutXF.com We'll be at Casino Palmer There we go You should get Boltman out there Did you know who he is?

Yeah, of course Yeah, that was great When he went to like the town hall meeting dressed up as Boltman To try to get the Chargers to stay in town Yeah, that didn't work No, it didn't And I think he tried to sell the Boltman costume

for like $50,000. That also didn't work. The price didn't get that high for it. All right, Sean, thank you for joining us, man. Appreciate it. You got it, man. Thanks, I'm happy.

That was our interview with Sean Merriman. Hope you guys enjoy it. And now for the lightning round. So did we get any questions? We got some questions. You want to answer some questions, Bill? We could hit some questions. Yeah, we got, thank you for everyone for sending them in.

We got like, I think close to like 100 or something. Like we got people want, people want the lightning round. Philly's representing lightning dead. Thunder. There's one more thing I want to talk about. Putin killed the Wagner boss. So, like, remember when Russia was in the middle of a civil war? And there was that one guy marching towards Moscow?

Yeah. He got killed. He got shot down in a plane. So Putin smoked, smoking on that Wagner pack. Pretty nuts. Jesus. So the one hope to take Putin out of power has been snuffed. Damn.

I don't really. But that sucks. Just, just reporting on. on the news. Oh, thank you. Okay, you want to do some questions? Sure. Okay.

This is the lightning round with Billy football. And he has read none of these. He does not have access to our email. Nope. Some of these I don't have a huge opinion on, but I figure you will. So if these aren't, if, you know,

I'd also like to hear your guys' opinion too. You guys have to answer the questions too. Some of these I don't. Some of these I don't. Okay. Well, the ones you do, the ones you do please chime in we'll play it by ear okay so okay so like this first one i have no i have no opinion on um okay here's a topic for billy explain why the nineteen ninety eight minnesota vikings team that made it to the nfc championship game where they suffered a heartbreaking

upset to the atlanta falcons should have made it to super bowl 33 and ultimately beat the denver broncos vikings fans consider this to be the most devastating loss in the history of the organization and is probably the reason why Vikings fans feel our kickers are cursed. The only thing I know about this game is that they missed the kick and didn't make it. What was it? 98. I wasn't even born. Yeah.

So that you probably would not know. Yeah. But why should they have made it to the Super Bowl? I mean. Should have made the kick? You shouldn't make the kick. They want, okay. So am I allowed to like look up refreshers?

Sure. Who says no? Is this is this just is this like trivia or like right that's a weird that's a weird question do you like I mean yeah so passionate about it the bike I mean I remember the only thing I remember about this team is that they went like 15 and one and they lost in the playoffs and they like were supposed to be like the best team ever but I mean I guess Falcons won the coin toss that's that's why the Falcons won the coin toss there you next question okay Oh, this guy sent

10 questions and he sent me Okay Do you do top sheet on a bed? Yes, yes, I do. Why did you have to hesitate on that one? I was trying to figure out which one was the top sheet, which one was the bottom sheet. Top sheet's the one that's not on the mattress.

The loose fitting. Well, it depends on the season. Hmm. Okay. Well, sometimes I just go bottom sheet when it's like really hot. Like with the comforter though? No, no, because it's summer.

Right. That makes the, okay, this isn't going to be popular because this is Bachelor Male bed makeup. I have a bed stand though. You have a bedstain? Bed stand. Oh, like a nightstand? Like a nightstand?

Oh, you need a bed frame. Bed frame, yeah. Got it. So, yeah. Do you have a backboard? No. But we don't have to wear it. about that.

All right, next question. Okay. Who in the office would beat you at an arm wrestling challenge? In the New York City office? Let's just do the whole company. No one. No one would beat you. Aryan, any former NFL players maybe.

Busseing guys. Bussing. I think I'm going to get Compton. Remember last time you said that? Yeah, right? Yeah, what I'm still going to come at is us. I don't care. Anyone in Chicago?

No. Do you think you're the strongest person in this office? What about KB? I feel like KB's really strong. Oh, yeah. No, no, but like the mass isn't there. Okay. Rudy?

Rudy might give me a run for my money. Okay. Okay. Is there a lie that you have told on macrodosing or pardon my take that you haven't gotten caught in? people got to remember that a lot of people a lot of this is just like to defend personal stuff like can't reveal everything on a podcast okay oh yeah but like a lie that doesn't doesn't reveal personal information or like an embellished story i can think of one that you have told me is a lie

oh yeah yeah but most like the thing is like everyone's like oh he's a pathological Do you want to reveal? It's Theo Vaughn type shit. It's Theo Vaughn type shit where you're like trying to be a good podcaster. Like if you think every stand-up comedians jokes are true or anybody like you're trying to entertain people. And you know, like embellishment, truth, these are all wordsmithing. Yeah. That, uh, is there anything you want to, do you want to reveal any of anything that you may have embellished?

Uh, the poison ivy story. Yeah. Yeah, Poison Ivy story. Not a lie, just an embellishment. It was an embellishment. Yeah. Yeah. Which is sad because that story made me laugh so funny.

It's funny either way. Exactly, but the original story isn't as funny as the story I made it out to be. It's true. You're right. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so this one, this guy wants to just hear your thoughts on these following topics. Okay, cool.

industrial herbicide industrial herbicide yeah I mean that's the stuff that's turning the frogs messing with their genders like roundup so it's herbicide

he's talking about like weed killer so it's supposed to have a serious impact on the endocrinological systems of amphibians but also maybe mammals so we don't know what's in the water

we don't know what's been leaking into the water into our water supply that might be messing with humans just like we got to check it out the Dewey Decimal System Ooh doy decimal system worked in a library once as a student worked in the library and learned how to do it

and it was useful kind of I forget how to use it now but we have the internet so it's kind of extinct the Dewey decimal system is a dinosaur long term implications of stripping Pluto of its planet status

I think it's going to really have an impact on galactic mining in the future like let's say let's say a thousand years we're mining other planets for resources Pluto not being a planet is going to have a lot of the same effect of some of the Caspian Sea, the country's bordering the Caspian Sea, none of them agree on whether the Caspian Sea is a lake, a sea, or an ocean.

I think it's the Caspian Sea. And because of that under international law, they, yeah, oh, they signed a deal. the Caspian Sea five countries signed deal to end dispute yeah so Russia Iran Azerbaijan Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan all boarding the Caspian Sea have okay wait no maybe it's not the Caspian Sea I think it's like the Black Sea or there is a body of water where all the countries don't actually agree on its designation and because of that they all can fuck around in there and get away with what they want to get away with and not have to adhere to international law that's going to happen with Pluto in some regards.

If we don't designate Pluto as a planet, it might be like, oh, because Pluto is in a planet, it can be mined by private corporations or not like national NASA type subsidies. Like, we don't know what we're going to be doing there, but like international waters, right? Because it's not designated to one country. Like, there's a lot of rules you can get away with.

But couldn't you say that about all of the, like none of the planets are designated to anyone right but let's say there's like a law put in place when we're colonizing different planets like all planets within these rings are this designation or let's say aliens come and they're like because Pluto wasn't designated a planet in your treaty said all the plants in the solar system are humans but they're like but Pluto you said wasn't a planet. They put a station there, a base, and then they're like right in shooting distance of us. Got it. Speaking of that, I just learned about Gibraltar this morning. Yeah. I didn't. England is that. It's England and Spain. It's England and Spain. It's like

the tip of Spain and it's the closest point of Europe to Africa and you have to boat past it to get to east to west, but England's, when Spain became like independent, England kept it for like boating, for like what, for like port access? I think it had a huge implication in World War 2 because they needed to monitor U-boats coming in and out of the Mediterranean. That makes sense. Yeah. And I remember there's this crazy story about these, they had a plan to lock seven dudes underground with a radio British dudes with a radio in like a small seeing out viewing area so that they could report back to England if Gibraltar got taken over all the movements of access ships in and out of the Mediterranean.

Huge strategic spot. Let me look up the exact history of when it got taken. But they said like there's like on a huge. Napoleonic Wars. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they seized. Yeah, the Anglo-Dutch fleet took it over in 1704.

Sweet. I love stuff like that. Yeah, I figured that was up your alley. And then last thing from this guy, is it easier to learn how to pilot a helicopter or become fluent in Latin and be able to read a Latin book in cursive? Fly a helicopter, 100%. Okay. becoming fluent in Latin,

it's a dead language, but like, Latin is like, Latin's kind of easy, but if you were to become fluent, fluent in Latin, it's like, actually,

no, flying a helicopter, because like, any Joe Schmo can pick up flying a helicopter on a, uh, simulator,

like PFT. Like, he knows how to fly a, a helicopter kind of technically because he's been doing simulations or an F-15 right like I think it would take less time

like you could probably learn in two months whereas Latin takes like several years to become fluent but any language does okay good answer okay next one

like a basic helicopter not like an Apache okay duh right okay next topic should OJ do commercials in 2023 and for what problem? he should just do commercials for law offices

look I looked into these guys these guys will get you off and if he like did some you know like testosterone boosting ad that would be hilarious he should just start doing Viagra that would be hilarious or he should advertise for Cutco What's Cutco? It's a knife company.

Oh, isn't that the, oh, isn't that the knife company that, like, guys get in, like, is an MLM? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's a pyramid scheme. Or, like, gloves. Yeah. Yeah. Or gloves.

Yeah. Oh, my God. That good, Billy. What are some athletes that resemble their mascot or logo? Athletes that resemble their mascot. There was a defensive end on the Vikings that, oh, sure. shit we're 69 Allen 69 Allen Vikings

what was his first name Jared Allen Jared Allen in my brain watching Jared Allen play I was like that's a Viking Kyle Long Bear Kyle Long

yeah looks like a bear We need to get Kyle along on the show now that we're in Chicago Yeah we had Chris We had Chris on We need to get Kyle on Hmm I'm trying to think

Um Oh, you know who is like a giant in my head growing up? He played for the Giants. He has Michael Strayhan was a giant. Yeah, good one. That is a good one. Yeah. Michael Strayhan looked like huge.

And once I'm in person, I was like, that's a giant. Yeah. Who else we got? Does anyone look like blooper? There's definitely some cowboys that look like cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. Clay Aiken, not Clay Aiken, Troy Akeman, Troy Akeman.

Okay. Troy Akeman kind of looks like he could have been a cowboy in a Western. Okay, I kind of see that. Cole Beasley, when he was on the Cowboys, looked like a ranch hand. Okay. Did anyone look like any birds? Don't think so. I'm trying to think of anyone in the Browns looks like a dog.

like a Oh yeah Like a bulldog Buffalo Yeah Buffball What's crazy is the Buffalo Maybe like Vaughn Miller

Actually Cole Beasley Well no it's the Buffalo Bills It's about Buffalo Bill It's not actually a bill Yeah you're right You're right Isn't yeah So Cole Beasley

Look like Buffalo Bill Yeah Yeah Buffalo Bill Actually Cole Beasley Looks exactly like Buffalo Bill From the old timey Westerns, not the serial killer from

Hannibal Lecter, but. Yeah. Yeah, he does. He does, actually. Anyone else who I'm going to move on? Yeah, let's move on. This one's called Man Rocket. One guy you're admitting, you're comfortable admitting it is too nice with it. What is it about them?

Too nice with it? Yeah. Like, what, what, what, what, what man rocket is like I get it oh like he's hot yeah yeah and and why I mean you saw Barbie last night hot dudes there's like so many hot dudes they're just they're all

they're all just hot like most famous dudes who are hot are hot like that's why they got the job do you have one like do you have one like man crash where you're like I get it like if I had to what Who's Henry Cavill? Good one, Billy.

Well, just because, like, oh, that's, that's Superman. That's Superman. Like, that's Superman. He is, yeah. Yeah, like, you were born to play Superman, Superman. Oh, Jason Mamoa. Like, yeah. That's a good one.

Yeah, like, there's just some dudes who just like, oh, you're a superhero. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. How do you think the pyramids were built? that's a good question. I don't think so there was there

so those Cleopatra's needle right they found those there's like one not the not the Pentagon what the hell is this

the needle the national monument right that's the national national monument when I was little I used to think the national monument

was the Pentagon the Washington Monument I mean I used to think that was the Pentagon for some reason because I got my shapes mixed up. I was like five. But the Washington Monument, they found one of the original ones in Egypt that hadn't been fully excavated. So how they made those is they would chisel them out of the ground. And what was so interesting about this one is that it was almost finished, but it cracked down the middle.

And they could definitely see that they just basically had thousands of dudes chiseling this thing out at the same time. So I think when we don't, you know, did aliens build the pyramids? Do we really know how these things worked? I think there are aspects of it that we don't know how they did and they may have used methods that we just don't understand, be it some crazy Tesla like technology that was lost that we don't know. But at the end of the day, they had so many people who had nothing to do besides build

shit and like the the agricultural revolution caused a population boom unlike anything we've ever seen so there was just and look they had no birth control so they just had a lot of manpower they had a lot of manpower and when you had all these people who needed jobs you just had thousands of people chisling away at the stone every day trying to make it like try to make these awesome structures like i don't think we understand that they They did nothing else besides build shit. So you're saying it was a numbers game and they were bored? Yeah, it was a numbers game and they were bored.

But, like, don't know if there's some crazy shit. Like, how did they get huge blocks down the river when they couldn't even build boats that big? Don't know. But they had manpower. Got it. All right. Next one. Who was the most dominant military leader in history and who's the most underrated?

Most dominant military This is a good one Gangus Khan of course Has the numbers Has the stats Went so far Did so much But he was kind of conquering a lot of like

Tribes And no he hit a lot of cities Alexander the great Was his schedule easy? His schedule was kind of easy Who did they play? who were their division rivals gangis con i mean a lot of of chinese empires they didn't hit like the thing is they didn't hit many serious empires to the east i mean to the west i meant eastern europe

like eastern europe didn't have that many big players um overrated i'd say the Soviet expansion, the Russian Empire when they expanded west into Siberia, like Russia is pretty overrated from that time period. Got it. But I'm trying to think who else played nobody. Napoleon played. I'd say Napoleon's overrated. Really?

Because he made some pretty, like he fought two front. war got beat took over a lot of peasants yeah he didn't play much of anybody got it um how much protein should i be eating to get ripped uh i think a gram per pound of body weight you have a day a day it's a lot it's not that i mean like how much how much protein is in a chicken breast 43 grams okay so I used to eat well when you want to get bigger

you got to eat more so the best bulking meal is about a liter of chocolate milk and a whole rotissory chicken if you eat one of those a day and you can mix it up maybe a couple a week

you will get bigger that's just a no-brainer and if you lift that's why I used to eat like every training day during summer before football season it was so fun now I can't if I ate like that now like I haven't I wish I could eat like I was bulking still but you know people lose the purpose yeah okay next one name three women that inspire you uh three women that inspire you uh three women that inspire me.

Barbie. Real women. Okay. Let me think. Jane Goodall. Okay. I got some more. Okay.

Condoleezza Rice. Okay. Mm-hmm. And. Also, we're just going to assume your mom is on this list, so I added a third person. That's not your mom. Yeah, yeah. No, we're talking about like celebrities, right?

That's why I assume. Yeah. Who inspire me. Inspire me to do what. What does Jane Goodall inspire you to do? Go out into nature. Yeah. Condoleezza, what's she up to with you?

I don't know. I just like that she almost got picked as a head coach for the Browns. also she like caused the iraq war i don't know i just like see her as like what the hell was she like what what was going on there she she inspires me to cause chaos okay third and uh we're gonna find that in my brain soon we'll get there anyone that's inspirational any No, I want to choose a good one. Like, I could just say like a random one. Yeah.

I would prefer you say a real one. Nancy Pelosi to make a lot of money. Okay. Well, okay. Got it. Um, okay. Moving on from that one. How do you feel about all of the eels coming from the Sargasso Sea in the Bermuda triangle?

Oh, so we don't know where eels mate. And don't we not know how they reproduce? or something like we kind of know but from what i'm like what i'm thinking is that they they reproduce there yeah so like the eels go from you're like a bunch of eels from europe go down rivers like from freshwater rivers they go into the ocean and they all go straight to this place in the sargasso sea in the north atlantic which is around um the media triangle this one like the you know most interesting things ever. And like even they even come from Maine. It's like it's almost like there's gigantic eels living in the center of the earth that like all eels are just babies and they like

turn into leviathons in the center of the earth and they all just go back there to to breed. I mean, I don't know if they're all. Yeah. They also go back there to die. Yeah. Or they're not even dying. They're just turning into gigantic eels and like. going to the center of the earth. Are you putting out the take that eels may be immortal? No, that like eels may be baby Leviathans, which are gigantic eels that people used to write about in ancient times. Got it. But like, we don't know what the fuck they're doing down there.

We don't know what's living down there. We don't know if there's like some deep sea caverns that we just don't know. Like, what the fuck's going on in the center of the earth? The eels know more than we do. I bet you the eels do know a lot. Yeah. Okay. Next question.

Is Bill Gates buying up U.S. farmland seed vault ownership and investing in lab grown meat to profit from owning the U.S. food supply chain? First off, I think what's really happening is he is trying to make sure that his wealth increases in that, like, he doesn't lose his money. And he's trying to build wealth with like revolutionary technologies, be it if he's trying to try to. trying to get stuff off the ground, but, you know, there could be an argument that he is trying to, you know, basically the future of, because his ideology compared to Elon Musk is that we need to reduce, we need to reduce consumption, reduce this, reduce this, whereas Musk is like, let's go to Mars, let's build shit, let's make more, let's so we can provide for more. So if he's trying to control the U.S. food supply, I mean, it's only out of a capitalist interest and hopefully not because he just wants to stop feeding people. But we don't know that. We really don't know. Like the rational explanation is that he's just trying to make money. He's just trying to fund revolutionary technologies. And the pessimistic view is that he is trying for world domination and to make sure that,

the human population gets reduced to prevent the world from collapsing. Got it. Do you think Aaron Rogers is going to coach in the NFL after his career? The thing is a lot of those guys, NFL coaching jobs are stressful. It's not a retirement gig. A lot of guys who didn't accomplish a lot in the NFL and still sort of had that itch, maybe you don't have like, didn't get paid that much, but like have a knack for coaching.

they'll become great coaches like but he might just coach high school like coaching high school football is the most fun out of all coaching positions or do you think he'll go into media I don't know the guy kind of seems like a leave me the fuck alone type you know yeah he does his like darkness I can kind of just see him becoming like a stoner he's been out and about though recently yeah in New York he was at the Taylor Swift concert he was out to dinner with the Jonas Brothers I saw. Yeah. Seems like he actually really likes New York.

Yeah. Also though, like... Which I thought was so random. I feel like if you go from such a small market like Green Bay to the biggest market, it's just such a culture change. Yeah. Like where is, I mean, where is he going to go in Green Bay to do those same things? Like I feel like he's almost just living out those experiences he didn't get to have

when he was young. Yeah, for sure. Because of the market he was in. No offense to Green Bay, Wisconsin. It sounds awesome. I love Wisconsin. Okay, next question. I don't know if this is, okay, I don't know how this.

Who sacrificed more to defeat the Nazis in World War II? The Soviets are the Western allies. This is a, honestly, the Soviets. I think like 20, am I crazy or was it like 20 million people died? If you look at the casualties of the Soviets, versus all the West, they literally threw, yeah, 27 million casualties were the World War II losses of the Soviet Union.

We don't understand. I think if you combined all the other casualties in World War II, none of them would combine to make up how many casualties of Soviet Union destroyed. But also, it was American Steel, British intelligence, and Soviet blood. I think we all can agree that U.S. steel was something that we were willing to give up. And British intelligence also willing to give up.

But, you know, like cannon fodder and sons is not something that I think anyone, like, would be willing to give up, like, to, like, have your son die. That's terrible. But do you I speak the Japanese? Given Zach Wilson's recent mentorship from Aaron Rogers, what is his ceiling this season? Last year was Patrick Mahomes. Could we see some Tom Brady or Joe Montana this year? I think his ceiling is still Patrick Mahomes. I think it's great that he's getting some time to sit so that he got thrown into the fire and he got cooked. He hopefully gets that all past him.

He gets some good stuff on tape. And he gets like, Sam Darnold just beat out Trey Lance for the 14. an Irish QB2 job, I think. Like, there's guys who got beat up who can bounce back. This is a dumb question. Who's QB1 for San Francisco? I was just looking at that up.

It's still Brock Purdy, I think. Who's the handsome guy? Jimmy G. Is he still on the... Yeah, Brock Purdy is still the starter. Isn't Jimmy G on the Raiders now? Yeah, he's on the Raiders. Yeah.

Because Derek Carr... Because Derek Carr... Because Derek Carr's on the States now. Yeah. Well, I think they like, because Brock... Proc Purdy was QB1 last season. It's like he's QB1 now. It's his job to lose kind of in the regular season. Got it. Okay. I like this question. Biohacking. Ask Billy to prescribe supplements to each member of the show based on what he perceives to be their biggest weakness. Huh. I would kind of tell everyone to take the same thing. No, you got to go one by one. Okay. Big T. This is going to just get offense. Like you're going to be offensive. This is going to get a fence. going to get offensive. Big Tee needs

Big T's grumpy. He needs some like 5HTP just like to get a little a little more lively getting some better moods feel talkative maybe like everyone should be taking Elthianine and Lyons main mushrooms

that is what everyone should be taking uh probably describe this can get offensive to everybody yeah

I think PFT needs some biotin because his hair kind of sucks this is just getting wildly offensive Aryan probably needs

Aryan probably needs like a lot of lines made to stay focused anything else maybe some berberine for big tea what's that

something burbering next question no and you didn't do me and McKenzie well what do you guys struggle with like mood wise

like why did you go straight to mood I feel like energy for me like I'm always tired oh so if you're tired B12 B12 B12

B12 I take B12 I take B12 I need tons of B3 I also can't I don't fall asleep very easily like it takes me like

Oh, you need magnesium. You need magnesium and al-thianine. Okay, that's good. But tons of stuff. Do you have anything for me, Billy? Yeah, B-12. I mean, if you're struggling with energy. Yeah, I already take B-12.

I think everyone should be taking glutamine. Yeah, glutamine because we all have leaky gut. Probiotics. Everyone needs probiotics. There's some serious. Yeah, Lactobacillus, Routieri is my favorite, just because it's, like, been shown to raise testosterone tons. But what else? Yeah, I think that hits, hits everybody.

Okay, this one, this one I've never heard of, but this seems like something you'd be interested in. I'd like to hear Young William Football Lightning Riff on Utilitarianism versus Deontology. My gut says Billy adheres to Kant's views that the intent of an action. supersedes the consequences of the action. Case in point, his COVID hesitancy. Under deontology, deontology, I don't know how you're saying, people have a duty to act in the right manner, even if it risks harming themselves. I imagine in Billy's paradigm, the duty to respect self-autonomy would have trumped the risk

of further spread via no masks. See also guns. The duty of self-protection would trump the risk of mass shootings that may result from the consequences of no gun control. Contrast this viewpoint with utilitarianism, which I imagine is more up PFT's alley. Once subscribing to the J.S. Mill School would likely support building a time machine going back to 1889 Austria and slaughtering as many babies as he could get his grubby hands on in order to kill Hitler once in for all, assuming commenter is anti-Hitler. He is. Embrace debate, Billy, utilitarianism or deontology?

Do you know what I remember? Yeah, utilitarianism. I know utilitarianism. I don't know deontology. It's like deontology is like the commercial where the kid in the high school basketball game touches the ball, knocks it out of bounds, and they awards the other team.

And he says, I touched it, coach. Like, you know that commercial? No, but, okay, so what, so, so which one do you, are you a utilitarianist or a deontologist? I'm a utelotelianist. is because deontology, like, I'd have to read up more about dentology, just because deontology or dentology? D-E-O-N.

Yeah, I mean, I think with anything, you need to have elements of both, whatever you think, uh, is good or not. You know, like total libertarianism isn't effective because of the bear and the bears and the village problem. Like, there's stuff that everyone having free will in a society, it doesn't make sense to be totally libertarian. Like, you should just pick and choose beliefs from each system and a combination of them will be checks and balances required. I would have to read up more about deontological theory. But at this point, I'm leaning utilitarian. Got it.

I'm pretty sure this is a big thing in nursing school Yeah would you hurt yourself to save other people Yeah utilitarianism is the ends justify the means It's like cost benefit analysis I'm more I'm more Familiar with utilitarianism Okay next

This guy has a couple questions for you Sweet How many starting college quarterbacks does Billy think he could outperform right now three months from now and a year of berserker training from now. Also, just to light a fire under your ass, he said he's not better than any, but I need to hear Billy make fun of all the Ivy School quarterback's arm strength. I think I definitely could start an FCS school after a year of training. Yeah, FCS.

I know, but that's still D1. Yeah, I had D1 offers. I just But you didn't play D1 No but I had D1 offers Like I could have played D1 I just decided to go to the best Academic school I could

So right now in this exact moment In the Billy's office Part of my Take Studio How many quarterbacks do you think you're better than Like in the whole country? Yeah How many quarterbacks in the whole country I'd probably be like

Let's just say just 20 D1 through D3 Oh D1 through D3 That's Yeah he never specified what division I'd put I'd say 50% of them. You're better, right now, right in this exact moment.

Actually, no. Okay. In a year, 50% I think I could win the starting job at, yeah, including D3. Are there more D1? Because there's a lot of bad schools with, like, we don't even have quarterbacks. Do you think you could go win the starting job at UMass Amherst? In a year maybe. I think it would be a 50-50 toss.

Okay. Speaking of Barbie, what are your top five movies? I really love Goodfellows. I don't actually like The Godfather. I'm not like a poser, like, Blood Diamond. I love Blood Diamond. Troy, I love Troy. 300 was good, but it was a little hard-o.

I saw a lot of good movies, which ones? I'm not that big of a movie guy. King Kong versus Godzilla Cocaine Bear And one more Oh Apocalypse now Okay

Please please please ask Billy How he would stop 9-11 If he was on the plane But only found out what was about to happen Right after takeoff And then asterix You guys can decide what he has on himself walking and onto the plane what did he buy at the airport i think you have like nothing that you

well i guess there wasn't like tsa protocol as much before well if i found out right after we took off yeah this is like such a bad question why well like let's say i have a phone i mean the thing is of course right you're like oh there's hijackers well are you told like those are the hijackers what do you mean yeah like well I'd turn into the woman on the plane like those guys aren't like the

I try to get to land the plane as fast as possible and then like go crazy yeah just be like the crazy person would you try to kill them on the plane remember they probably have weapons right they had box cutters yeah

I mean I guess I don't know if they were sitting together, well, I'd go to the one who's the farthest in the back, and I'd probably have my phone charger, and I'd try to strangle it with my phone charger. Why the one that's in the back first? Because then the other ones couldn't see him. Oh, okay. But then take his box cutter.

But don't you think someone would notice if you, but wouldn't you think someone would notice? Also, also, this is 2001, you don't have an, like, iPhone charger. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah Fuck, you're right Headphones? Then I just cause a scene

No, or maybe headphones I just cause a scene Be like, we gotta get off this plane Four guys They definitely land the plane And then just like Don't let anyone near the cockpit Probably die

How are you gonna prevent that though? What do you mean Don't let anyone near the cockpit How you can stop them? They have box cutters And they could also cut your headphones That you have to wrap around their neck With the box cutters

Right no but I don't think I would have the headphones what's the technology like this is a stupid question it's a very sad it's a very sad event but it is I think I could convince some guys to help me if I was like those guys why do they have box cutters right now

and then they're like oh shit and then we just try to because a lot of it was no one knew it was going on like no one was interfering but if like you like yell loud enough anyway this is a sad story it is a sad story

let's go to the next one who would you rather box Rico or Billy McFarland I mean, that's like two amazing choices. I'd kick both their asses. I mean, like, I'd probably take Billy because it would be more of a challenge. Did he really come out with another fire fest? Yeah, I was invited to go.

Yeah. Are you, did Frant, did a, uh, Gia. Gia. Gia. Did she put you in her list? Yes. So basically what happened was Billy McFarland put out a tweet that was like, Who wants to come on FireFest 2 with me?

And Gia replied to the tweet as a joke with me and a couple of our friends. And he was like, okay, you're in. And then DM'd Gia. And it was like, he DM'd her and was like, hey, are you guys in? And I think it's supposed to be this weekend. What are the details? Like, where is this one? Oh, it's on.

It's on Long Island. Is it? Yeah. It's like, it's either like near the Hamptons or something. It's in New York, I think. But he was like, you guys ready to go. I guess you got to pay to find out. Well, also, I mean, based on how Firefest won, I don't know if there are a ton of details.

Right. So we were like, should we kind of go as a bit? And then I live here. I don't live in New York anymore. And we were kind of like, is that the best idea and way to spend our weekend? Right. Apparently it's sold out. That's insane.

I mean, who's paying to go, but do you do you. Fire Fest me wants. Shame on me. One of the guys, one of the guys that's in the documentary that went to the thing is like a friend of my friend. It's like they had to get like a private jet or whatever to get them off the plane or something. Like it's crazy. So I'm actually signing up right now. How do you want to be involved?

I want to report on it. Oh, do you want to get like a media pass on it? I am Investigated journalism I am a barstool representative I'm a barstool sports reporter I don't think this is

going to happen but yeah Firefest me once shame on you Firefest me twice shame on me Yeah that is true That is true

Firefats me three times Fuck the peace sign exactly really okay ready for the next one yep what are your thoughts on this there are hundreds if not thousands of different religions that are being practiced so who's to say which beliefs are correct growing up in a catholic household it was always reiterated in mass for i am god and there is no other but if that were the case how come so many other religions exist and why are their beliefs wrong. I think that they're all, even though they're different religions, I think they're all attempts to describe the same thing. Like, I think they're all describing some sort of same

energy, even though they might be different monotheistic, polytheistic. They're all attempts at describing the world around us. Like, there's definitely that unknown we don't know about and there definitely is like some sort of creation of this whole reality we're experiencing and whoever that creator or whatever created this we're just all trying to describe that one thing no one's wrong it's kind of like they'll believe it for a reason and if you kind of like you know if you it's almost like understanding why people believe things for why they do is like a huge that will really help you grow your worldview because like if you're not willing to open your mind to things like everyone's just trying to describe the same thing

and it's just like everyone developed a different way to do it it's kind of like language like everyone uses has different languages no one language is right but they all have the same sort of right idea which is to try to communicate with each other that's what i think's like different religions okay i like that answer billy yeah um taking a sharp left turn Mary Fuck Kill Big Cat, Dave, and PFT Oh man, I like my job I'm playing the fifth on this one

This is the first one I'm pleading a fifth on Okay Okay If you played Prime MJ one on one to 100 Could you score one point Loser is executed and it makes it Wait Loser is executed

Losers executed and it's make it take it and MJ starts with the ball. Huh. Oh, it's a fight to the death? Well, it's, if you don't score a point, you're killed. And it's make it take it. Well, then I just try to kill MJ. No, that'd be hard. You just have to score one point on MJ.

Okay, I just foul the shit out of him every time. Can you do that? But then you're not getting the ball. Yeah. Right, but MJ would have to miss once and you would have to capitalize on that and score once. Right. Well, what I would do is. Do you think you could do that?

So is it by one? Is it by one? Yeah. It's by one. So he's a hundred attempts. I'd foul him every time. So he'd keep getting attempts and just like try to foul the shit out of him so he doesn't score to then increase the times where he may miss. Yeah.

Just set the tone, then get it, then just shoot it from three. try to get space, and then hopefully one of those go in and I don't get killed. That would be my strategy. I don't know if it would work, but I think I would get one point doing that. Because I think if you could get the ball, like, yeah, at the top of the key or somewhere, you could just keep shooting. Like, at least one would go in. People have hit half court shots.

Right. Like, I hit three threes in my pickup game last night. Nice. Okay. Same thing. Yeah. Um, quick one. Best alcohol to buy for alcohol to volume to price ratio.

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Um, are current depictions of aliens actually demons or ancient depictions or ancient depictions of demons actually alien? Well, there are, more people say angels. Like, if you look up the biblical description of angels, they look a lot like some of the UFO objects they see today. I think this guy's a little inaccurate on what there's been parallels made. So, like, ancient demons are aliens. Oh, the Satan conspiracy that, hmm.

Oh, the Greek mythological. Theory This one's hard Research original Angels depiction verse Today's aliens There's a lot of the stuff

that Bob Lazar described sounds exactly like what the Bible described about So in this I think the angels are descriptions of aliens If you fought Floyd Mayweather at his fight weight 147 for eight three-minute rounds in a must-win by knockout scenario, who would win? Please also describe how you would approach the fight. I do exactly what Logan Paul did.

Logan Paul had the best fight strategy for Floyd Mayweather. I wrote a blog on it if you want to see more in-depth answer. But, you know, Floyd weigh whether, he's 147 pounds. probably fight at 1.95. That would probably be my fight weight. Do I have to be 1.47? Did he say? I mean, if you fought Floyd May, whether it his fight weight, I don't know. Okay, so he's, okay, yeah, I do it. Logan Paul did it. He did the, like, he wrestled him, so he couldn't get hurt, and they just threw big bombs from the outside, and then whenever he got close, he wrestled him. It was the perfect way to, you know, try to not get hit and try to knock him out. I don't think I would. I really don't think I would,

but that would be the strategy. If you and four friends from work went into the NCAA women's division one basketball tournament has a four seed, how far in the tournament could you make it and who would be your teammates? You're the fourth seed? I think we could make it to the final four.

If I had Pat... Who was on your team? Dana, Pat, Dana. Well, I'd choose a lot of the guys from Nick Mulcahy. Well, like, could you choose Mark Titus? Or could you choose Pat Bev? Oh, yeah. Yeah, choose.

Titus? Yeah, Titus, Pat, Pat, no, we'd win the whole thing. I don't think they're counting. Yeah, with them, you would. With them, yeah. That's not fair. Besides them, let's say. I mean, yeah.

Then I'd take Nick Mulcahy, Pat, Dana, and Jetsky. But we'd be practicing, right? Yeah, I think we go to the final four. Could you beat Prime Rhonda Rousey in boxing? In boxing. In boxing, yeah. Not in M&A.

Not in Jiu-Jitsu. She'd submit me in a second. But like Ronda Rousey wasn't a great striker. That's why she lost to Holly Holmes. she's like got she doesn't have much reach ronda rousey inspires me that's a good one billy yeah all right next one

all right this one is intense so what is the best humane and economical way to deal with individuals in the criminal justice system who will never make it out life in prison or death penalty this is fucked up so like they're either going to be in prison for life or the death penalty which do you think is the more humane and economical way to deal with individuals like this?

Keep them life in prison with the option for assisted suicide. So. Do you think a lot of them would take that? Yeah. I think that's the only humane way because one, if they don't want to do life in prison, they can do that. Two, if they don't want to die, they can do life in prison. I think that's fair. That's a good one, Bill.

Like instead of, instead of like, we're going to choose whether you get the death penalty of your life in prison. But do you think it's unfair that they get to choose their punishment for such a terrible crime that they've committed? Yeah, but the costs of the death penalty are so much higher than keeping on the taxpayer than keeping someone in prison for lifetime that just give them that option, which is a lot less expensive. Good. I like, I mean, I think that's a pretty good answer. I don't think there's a right answer. a wrong answer. I think it's just hard. Okay. Last question, I think is a good one to end off on. How do you think the universe was created? It was definitely created out of another universe. Expand on that.

Like, the Big Bang had to come from somewhere. The Big Bang could have been like a creation of a wormhole in another universe that just sent that whole universe into this universe. that may not be physically possible. How do you guys think of the universe created? I have not a clue. Again, these were Billy Lightning rounds. I didn't come prepared to defend my universe creation theory. Let's do one more. You want to do one more?

Sure. Okay. Okay. Billy, what are your thoughts on Obama gay rumors that have been going on in the last month? They're probably bullshit. I have a feeling like a lot of those people back then, and they're like taking their writings from like the 70s like Bernie Sanders had a bunch of weird shit

I think they're all just like in college academics like considering different theories that were being tossed around. So Obama not gay. I mean fortunately suck build one boat I don't know that's a that's a

what build one boat you're not a boat builder It depends on what your definition is. Was he maybe by curious at one point? I don't know. Who knows? Okay. And that was a Billy Lightning round.

It was a bit slower than a lightning round, I think, was intended for. Yeah. But that's us. I think that's just the name of this game at Macrodosing. But I think that's all we've got for today. I hope everyone watched the Barstow Awards last night And they enjoyed their time And they haven't happened yet

But hopefully Big T and PFT Survived the fire Of whatever happened Because something's gonna happen We don't know what But yeah And I get to watch from the comfort of my home And not be scared

I have a bad feeling for Big T For Big T Yeah No I don't think so I don't think that I don't think Big T is the people I think his will be like a funny one. I think his award that he's up for will be something RICO-centered, possibly also high noon centered.

I don't think also I don't think Big T is like a someone you pick on. I don't think that's who their attention is going to be focused on tonight. He doesn't take jokes well enough to pick on. No, yeah. Like I don't think he's the person. I don't think he's done anything too bad where they're like, Let's pick on Big Tea today. Yeah.

You know, I feel like there are, I think there are better people to throw fire at than Big Tea. Yeah, many. But again, this is recorded before them. So if you, if this age is like milk, let me know. But we'll be watching tonight and I hope you guys watched and had a blast. And yeah, I think that's all we've got. Bill, you got anything else? No. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

See you guys back on Monday. Full squad back on Tuesday. Full squad. Arian will be back. Mm-hmm. Yes. Perfect. Yeah. All right.

See you guys next week. Love you guys. Love you guys.