Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - China ft. The Wonton Don

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the entire crew was live in studio to discuss China with Barstool's foreign correspondent, The Wonton Don. You'll hear everything from their handling of the Coronavirus to how they censor things there vs. in the United States. Also, Arian gets heated on a take about Michael Jordan and playing football. You don't want to miss it. All of this and PLENTY more on the show. Macrodosing is presented by DatChat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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why do you take the glasses on where we had a deal dude it's just that i can't look at the computer with the shade and then it's oh yeah i forgot you're the guy who looks shit up right i got to be active i guess we're just built different that's fine i've been doing this shit for years billy i got these baby blues before we get into the actual podcast uh want to give a big shout out to datchat dat chat is our presenting sponsor this show that chat is a very fun app we've actually been using DatChat a lot. Arian literally just said before we started recording, you say, you high-key fuck with that chat?

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Aaron, how was your trip here? It was fire, man. Well, the trip here wasn't fire. Let me take it back. It was shitty. I'm glad I'm here. So I took a train where I was in Seattle, right? I went from Portland to Seattle and then Seattle to Portland all on a train.

And I'm a train gun now. Yeah. Like 100% trains are way better than planes. Correct. Co-sign planes are overrated. And so it's so relaxed. you get this like I had a roommate and it's like there's two seats and you fold them down as it becomes a bed you have meals three-course meals it's just a beautiful experience

the the scenery is amazing and then I get on a plane I had a red off to New York and it's just they just treat you like cattle you know they're just hop on get on and everybody's chop chop chop chop and then the turbulence fuck on my anxiety so I might not do planes for a while man do trains are by far the superior way to travel it's not you even a question for me anymore and when you can get that train at room i know there's one particular train that goes from new york all the way down to florida so i try to take that when i go back to dc as much as i can it's called the silver meteor which is just a classy fucking sounding train and it's got these nice carts in it you've got a bed that you can lay down on it's amazing

you don't have to go through security you get on them way more comfortable you feel like i almost feel like people should should be more woke to the fact that train travel is massively superior in every way to airplane travel we should actually circle back to train talk because i think china has some of the nicest trains in the world it's true and it's troublesome like how far behind we are with like train technology in this country like we really like when amtrak was pitched i feel like that was early 2000s for some reason i feel like al gore was attached whether or not he was doesn't really matter to me. But I feel like it was sold as like high speed like these things are going to be fucking flying. And they really don't. And I'm a big train guy, but I feel like they

should be going much faster. Yeah, I went to Japan and I had a travel lady and she like set up like this whole like little travel. And like so we went from like Tokyo to like Kyoto and there was like two or three other cities that we went to. And we went on train. And it was fucking amazing. And now that I'm thinking about it just now. They're way. way better than they were here. Yeah, I just didn't think about it. And I still like the ones here a lot. I'm a big train.

Yeah, I would prefer it. But it's just like, yeah, you're a thousand percent. And then I typed up, I was like, you know, it has to be like luxury trains. Because you could tell it was a little, it wasn't as modern, a little out of date. And then I looked up luxury chains. And there was one, I don't know where over there in Asia was. But in Asia, it was like this luxury. Like it looked like the ones like, like, if the Titanic was a train, it was like that.

You know what's probably. That's, that's actually a horrible fucking thing. Yeah, you don't want to be that. I've changed my plan. It's a Titanic to the ship. It's just going to be a replica of the Titanic, but it's on a train track. That would be. So it can't, it can't sink.

I cross the Atlantic. Yeah. I should be painted on the side. It won't sing. Yeah. Guaranteed. There's definitely like big plane involved and why the trains didn't get much more entrenched than the United States.

Oh, talk to me. Talk to me. Like, there's got to be like, because there was, there was this proposed plan. Like, do you guys see that picture on the line? Yeah. It goes viral all the time. Yeah. And it would be so sick.

It turns me on. Whenever that picture of the United States that has a different train lines pops up on my timeline. It's about once every six months. I actually get aroused when I look at that because I'm like, fuck, I could get to Chicago on a train from New York in three hours. That's amazing. I do that all the time. It's like New York to Miami in like five hours. I just constantly go to Miami. Yeah, I know all the time. So the reason that China has a train system like that in the U.S. doesn't is because in the U.S. you got to worry about property rights. Like all the land is owned by someone. And to build a really fast train, it has to go like direct.

so they would have to buy up all the property like along that train line whereas in china they just say you know what we're building the train here and you have to move if you don't move to be fair you could ask certain demographics of this country how they feel about like eminent domain and whether they can just take your land definitely for sure has happened my grandpa had a ranch and the government came and said that we're going to need part of that and they just took it yeah talk to a big tea i mean they're supposed to pay you fair market value for your land. Wait, Big T, you should be the most anti-government taking your land guy here. I am. But they are, when they do that, they're supposed to pay you fair fair value for it. According to who is it fair. Well, that's where it comes in, right?

But no, yeah. It's pretty fair to have your house and keep it. That's what I think. No, agreed. I am anti the government taking any of my shit. That taxation is theft. Imminent domain is theft. But it's not like they just come in and steal it.

That's why they're out of it. Quick, quick fact. It's called the mile long club on a train. Oh, I looked it up. Really? I am a part of it. Yeah.

I knew someone would be wondering. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Run a train. Oh, that would be interesting. Actually, no. No.

No. You don't want to run a train on a train. That would be weird because it's way too tight of quarters for that. You're way too closer to do. Well, if you just went to like room to room. Yeah. Where did the phrase run a train come from? There's multiple.

I think there's a Multiple people in the caboose Oh yeah Makes sense Things I've never thought of before Probably should have Yeah Train's fucked though

I love a good train It's so much smoother Like Arian said You don't have the turbulence either Yeah You don't have to worry about buckling up You don't have to worry about Like everything is immediate on a train

You just get there You get on you don't have to wait For an hour and a half When the train arrives You just simply get off the train you don't have to walk through a massive airport you don't have to wait till the train taxis to its gate trains are just a million percent more efficient than airports something about the sound of the train it just like lulls me to sleep um i was on a 25 hour train in china and i slept for like 20 of those hours

there was like a chinese person in the room with me because each room had three beds and i slept for 20 hours and like they started worrying that i had died on the train and when i finally moved like they all just breathed the sigh relief don't Like we thought we were like in this room of a dead foreign. Yeah, I want to go to jail for killing this white guy. Dead American. Yeah. What's interesting, I took the train before I was back comfortable flying.

I took the train from here to Atlanta, which was like 18 hours. Beautiful. But it got pushed to 20 hours because they said we hit a tree, which I don't know if you guys know anything about trains and how they, like, there's not a lot of trees that like just pop up in front of it. So that, what I learned because it happened again on the way back, means they hit a hobo. They murdered a guy with the train, which happens quite frequently. Really? And they don't like to create a panic that you've been involved technically in a murder.

Oh, wow. So they tell you they hit something, which doesn't really make sense. Like, trees don't just pop up in the middle of tracks. I would have been so gullible. Like, yeah, we hit a tree. Yeah, it's not a good lie at all. What do you mean we hit a tree? Yo, you killed somebody.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You were an accessory to murder. So on the way back. On the way back, I wasn't on the train yet because it goes from here to like Louisiana. And then wraps back up. So that one, they killed them, like, immediately outside of New Orleans. So I wasn't even on there yet.

But the train still had, like, the blood on it. Dude, that happens all the time in the subway. All the time. I've seen it, like, but what usually happens is people going between the carts and then falling in between. And that's how they get squished. People who do that confidently freak me out. They just move, like, real quickly between the train cars. It's like, that, no, you should not be moving this fast.

You should be very, you're talking about, like, getting to the other side. No, like, if you, if you're on a subway. there's a door at the back of each car and you can go into the next car down even while the train's moving. Oh, like in the movies. Like in the movies and sometimes people just like sprint through there. I don't know people actually did this.

It's like the most dangerous shit ever because the train's bumping and it's going side to side. You fall down, you're fucking dead. Oh, my God. Dude, more people when if they miss the train when the train's leaving and it's going slowly they jump on the back of the train. Yeah, that's cool.

And hold on. Yeah. That's pretty sketchy. No, that's cool. I had a friend who did that. he's still here he's still here but he's not for long yeah

he has other risky behaviors besides jumping over you don't say like he's just an idiot hanging out with billy being friends with william football raw dogging he raw dogs I was on the other side of the door making sure he got there okay

okay that's good yeah couldn't open it though there's like the conductors so you're just giving him like window loves saying hold on so wait he could have made the train but he just wanted to jump on we were we were running on the door for him We were running on the train.

I got in. There was a couple people behind me. And then he was late because he didn't have a metro card. And he just ended up jumping on the back of the train and holding on. So you didn't hold the door for your friend? No. He was trying to get a metro card. We thought he wasn't actually going to full send it and the train was going.

Got it. One thing I realized living here long enough, like you don't have to pay for a metro card. I'm the only person that pays for the subway in this whole city. I did for a long time. And then I just stopped and nothing happened. No, but it doesn't matter. Wait, but then you have to, you have to climb under, right? I can, I have luxury.

I can just step over. I realize not everyone can do that. Okay, yeah, I mean, I see plenty of people who just, like, hop over. Yeah, they just jump. Or there's the, the emergency door. People just hold the door open and people just flood in. Which I love, that's, that's beautiful. My man, so the first time I was in New York, my man, I was, I didn't know that you didn't have to pay.

And so I was, I asked this dude. I was like, yo, where do you, where do you buy the Metro card? He was like, come here. He just left to me. And he just hopped over. He's like, come on. I was like, where? I said, nobody cares.

I was like, bet. So I haven't paid since. Very funny TMZ article, like Ari and Foster arrested refuses to pay for train. Yeah. I mean, everybody's doing it, man. Correct. Not big tea. They make $127 a month and it is all off of me.

That's their entire. Can you pay $127 for that shit? Yeah. I see why people have it. I'm hopping. I always pay for it. If I got caught, that would just be so embarrassed. I usually pay for it, too.

They just do your ticket. Like, you don't get arrested. How many emergency doors? How much is the ticket? I think it, is it less than 127? Oh, yeah. How many emergency doors on average do you think actually make the noise when you hit it? Because I've seen so many false emergency doors.

Yeah, I think that's just placebo. Like, they'd be fucking with people. I'm talking about it. They're not even on the subway. This is in general. Yeah, in general. Schools, bars. I don't think any of them are actually connected to any alarms.

Whole shit is cap. The whole whole side. Yeah, the entire situation's cap. I agree. And then on elevators, you know what else is cap? On elevators. You're wrong. The closed door.

No. No, they work here. That's right. It works here. It works. I've worked in the door closed button. Some of them are. I've worked in too many buildings as a security guy where I've tested this theory on a lot of elevators.

Some of them, they do work. Some of them are just a button that you can push and nothing happens. Right. Okay. So I think a more accurate way to put it would be if for whatever reason that button gets disconnected or stops to not work on an elevator, it will never get fixed. Yeah, that's fair. So if it goes out of order, it's like, okay, we don't have to worry about that.

So they might connect it when they install the elevator on some of them. But I don't know. I feel like there are just so many. And granted, I've ridden a lot of very bad elevators the last like four years in my apartment complexes. So elevators are badly designed. The buttons should be on the floor. Explain. I don't hate it.

Elevators are badly as though. They should go sideways. I mean, some walk evaders, then, that'd be fired. That's a subway pretty much. Yeah, it's a train. But not in a building, though. Right. All right.

So how many times are you seeing people like pick their nose and eat the boogers or just be in their draws? And then they're pressing the same buttons you're pressing. Like that's disgusting. Just had a shit on the floor so you could tap floor 12 and you're good. I feel like you'd hit all of the buttons always. Make it space it out so where people with big feet or just don't be a doofist, bro. Just hit the fucking button. And if you fuck up, you're going to have an extra stop.

But you won't have germs. What happens to get crowded? You know, when you're all stuck in elevators? I think it needs to be like Against the wall What's a crowd What's a crowded elevator like 10? Sometimes people pack elevators

That's when you back out You gotta get at like this shit's You shouldn't be in the elevator with more than 10 people Yeah I kind of agree with that Nothing good happens in an elevator That's that packed Maybe have them on the ceiling

And then you could just limit the amount of people That could physically touch them They're short people can't get to where they need to go We got grubby hands anyways You don't want our short little pause on that. Or you just do the slide, take your shirt, and just use it to cover your hand when you press the button. I've never actually thought about that, though, Aaron.

You're right. There's some gross buttons. Buttons on the floor, that's fire. Yeah. But that's the case of like all buttons then. I guess like all buttons are pretty gross. Yeah. Yeah.

For sure. That's why you should limit touching stuff. I love pushing them, though. I love pushing a good button. Money, that's disgusting. Yeah, that's why now most cash is going. Digital. And I'm okay with it.

Also, also back to China. I was only using my phone to pay for things like five years before they came out with that here in the U.S. Oh, shit. Yeah, like they had Weechat pay way before Apple pay. Yeah, I'd be Apple paying everything.

Yeah. It's all that touching money. Speaking of elevators, Donnie and I had a wonderful weekend at the Margaritaville resort in Times Square, New York City. Yeah, we stayed the resort and spa. Oh, there is a resort. Yeah, it was a full-on resort. We're talking hundreds of rooms.

Outdoor pool. Outdoor pool. six restaurants and bars, the five o'clock somewhere bar, which opens up at five o'clock every day, the license at chill bar. You've got really everything that you need there except for working elevators, which was an issue for us the entire weekend. The elevator's just, I think they have four of them for probably like, I know, 500 rooms or something like that and all the staff that works there.

At one point, I was going down to the basement, going to the Finns Up Fitness Center, and I was going down on the elevator, and it was jam-packed. There were like probably 12, 13 people on this elevator, and we get to the sixth floor. And this poor guy that works in the kitchen at one of the restaurants there looks in and he goes, I'm so sorry. Can you guys get out and let me in? Because I've been waiting here for 30 minutes for this elevator.

And we're all like, you know, we're paying money to say there. And so we're like, I'm sorry. We were also waiting a long time for this elevator too. I just felt so bad for the guy. But I was like, you know what? Since I am paying for the room, I think I'll just continue on the elevator that I was on. It was a service elevator?

Yeah. No, it was a normal of it? Oh, yeah. Was that a dick move? Because I keep, I keep feeling bad about it. A little bit, yeah.

No. No. I think the way he asked you about it showed a lot of humility. Yeah. And I think you feel bad about being like, you know what I'm more important. Bad situation.

I was still a dig more. Yeah. The customer is always right. Yeah, but the people that say that are the most wrong people. They're that. They're not. Those are the biggest dickhead.

Anyone who's ever said the words, the customer is always right is either a dickhead customer that you don't want or a dickhead boss that you don't want to work for because i don't know how no i don't know how much you guys know about customers but a lot of them are fucking idiots i would say the majority the majority customers are fucking dumb yeah really dumb they just piss people off that's how karen's were born customers always right yeah just end up with that you're right that's what gave karen's license unevolved version of karen yeah yeah but there's a difference between what y'all are talking about most of the time and somebody asking you like hey i know you paid all this money for this but can you

just like not do what you need to do that's not the same yeah as like somebody going into a fucking macdonalds and raising a for sure for sure you're like hey can i get that burger instead like the girl right did you see that lady who was the comedian um fucking oh he he does impressions all the time i don't know he just did this frank kelly endo no black dude um harry spares oh no not j farrow oh not j fair oh the next one oh the fact the fact the fat guy? Definitely not fat. So anyway, he was doing he was doing a show

and some white lady gets on gets on this stage. Oh, I did see this. And tells him I'm offended of what you said. And he's like, what the fuck? And like the whole crowd booing and shit. She's like, I just think that there are the people in the crowd that are off the stand. He was like, get the fuck

off the stage. That shit is crazy. Damn. That's some customers always right bullshit. It is, though. I've never seen that at a comedy show. No. I haven't. there. That's wild. I would actually, I would venture to say that 90% of the time the customer is wrong. A hundred percent at hecklers at comedy shows. Those customers are never correct. Those customers are always idiots. And just being a, like having a job is mostly about dealing with people and educating them in the nicest way possible, how they're actually wrong about what they think,

but still making them happy about it, which is a very tough skill to have. I would say, though, overall, we had a good time at Margaritaville. Without an out. Yeah. It was, it was a wonderful stay. I'm just saying that one specific elevator instance. The elevators were rough. That was the only bad part, but the Margaritaville in Times Square is an amazing, romantic, enchanting place. We ate lunch inside of the Statue of Liberty. There's one table that they set aside, and we just, we hawked that table. We saw a family that was eating there, and we just stood next to them, and we said...

I think first you need to explain to people that there is a Statue of Liberty that's holding a margarita glass. I thought they would just assume that. Okay. But, yeah, naturally, at the Margaritaville Resort in Times Square, in their cheeseburger and paradise restaurant, they have a giant two and a half, three-story statue of Liberty. And she's holding a book that says no passport required. You did have to show your vaccine passport to get in there. You did. You feel like that bear.

That's a hot conservative take right now, Bucci. No, I mean, it was true. And then she was holding, instead of her torch, it was a giant margarita glass. And the margarita glass had sharks that swam around in it. And it was light up and sometimes it's a stroke light. And so she was looking good. And we decided, you know what? We want to be the people that eat lunch inside of the Statue of Liberty.

So we waited on it, waited on it. Finally, we pressured this young family into getting up and leaving their lunch early so that I could sit inside. I can't pressure that man, Adele. Yeah. We just got to be running out of these dicks for being in a place you live. You don't know these two people. They both wearing sunglasses. They just are like hovering over your family.

It's like, hey, let's get the fuck out of you. No, it was, it was fun. It was a, it was a good lunch. The drinks were flowing. I think I tried all the different novelty cocktails that they had there. It was a good time. I got my, I got a latitude adjustment is what I got. Now, the only thing I must say is that I was almost killed by a bouquet of flowers.

20 minutes after arriving, I'm hanging by the pool and I hear a loud thud. I turn around and there's a bouquet of flowers. I'm like, where did this come from? I realized that someone had thrown it off the roof. And like the roof, how tall is that building? I think it's 36 stories, so it's pretty tall. Yeah. And so, you know, I think at that height, if that had landed on my head, it could have done some damage.

What was the vibe of the other people staying at the Margaritaville Resort? It was a little mix. So it was Dave Matthews Band weekend at Penn Station. I love that. So there were a lot of people that were staying at the Margaritaville restaurant and bar and saloon and resort that were also going to the Dave Matthews Band concert. So what a weekend. Yeah, great, great weekend for white people. I was going to say it's the whitest weekend of all time.

I saw some black people. Yeah, yeah. No, it was actually, ethnically, it was very mixed. It was a very diverse group of people that were there in his band. Yeah, in fact, it was funny. We decided that we would bring some cards with us when we were going to the bars because, you know, like, it's...

That's actually fire. It's fun to have playing cards whenever you go out to a bar with your friends. What do you play? So we were playing a couple different games. I think we played golf a couple times, up the river down the river, some drinking games, yeah. What is golf? It's a game where you get four.

cards you try to get the lowest score possible we just mixed it up a little bit but that's a white person it's a white person yeah you don't play spades you don't play spades so we looked across um across the bar and there was a table of four young black ladies that also brought playing cards and so it was a moment where we like looked at each

uh oh all right we're not so different you and I we're not so different you and I little cross cultural you know like listen at the end of the day we all like to have a good time at a bar we all like numbers and they're playing boo-ray you guys are playing goldfish you're like same thing I liked this well so somebody that we were with was like

hey what game do you think they were playing and I was like it's probably stereotypical me to say this but probably spades right that makes sense because four people spays are bit whiz um yeah it's probably spades though mm-hmm spade seems like a fun game spades is so fun it just nothing that that I was ever told you know how to play no no you're learning how we'll learn how to play this weekend okay this week oh fuck it I don't you I don't even count day you're a perpetual weekend yeah you are your whole life is a weekend yeah I don't they all just do it there's the same it's five o'clock somewhere that's a jimmy buffett saying you and him not so it's friday somewhere yeah but it was a great time it was you know i was thinking back to the elevator

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I feel like I'm living in the 60s. Yep. You wouldn't know about what you're paying taxes either. The subway though, it was the first to like the world. Or maybe the one in Boston was first. But the New York subway was first built. like 100 years ago so it's hard for them just to revamp the whole thing whereas in china they're just building all these subways now so they get the newest like state of the art subway it's a lot

it's a lot easier to start from scratch than try to i think we have i think we just have to sacrifice as a as a community and be like yo we're shut down for about three months we're not good at that probably have to be like three years we had a pretty good opportunity to do that yeah fairly recently yeah could you could you imagine the conspiracy theories out there if during COVID they're like hey everybody stay inside we're going to be digging giant holes in the ground would have been way better than what they were actually doing for the next three months and nobody come outside and ask us questions about it just trust us it's what would they actually doing big devising a plan to keep the population controlled and subdued for the foreseeable future

holy shit just keep it started it started with 15 days to slow the spread now look at where you are if if that were like what was true i would almost respect it no i mean because i don't think they're competent enough to pull that off they're not they're not that's my biggest flaw with that line of thinking like there's no way is they could they could they good question the dems china yeah actually china no no hardly they're in code on this point absolutely china and the dims the one thing i'll give merit to in this in this conspiracy theory of like covid having a reason is in the fall of 2019 what was going on in hong kong there were protests massive protests But Wuhan is pretty far from Hong Kong, though.

Right, but if you, but wasn't there also... Well, you can't make the virus in the middle of the riot. Yeah. That would be too obvious. Yeah, you'd like to do it away. Like, yeah, someone can knock it over. Six people in the lab coats in the middle of a fucking million people. Tiananmen square tank rolling a guy.

But like, you could comment on this, Donnie. The thing is we may have only known about the Hong Kong riots. There was like, wasn't there that people thought there was other riots in China that we just didn't know about? because we couldn't know about them? I don't know about those. But, yeah, I mean, I do know that it was pretty much COVID that stopped the Hong Kong riots. Yeah. Secret riots.

I like that conspiracy theory. Well, because the thing about China is that we don't know, we don't have their social media and their social media is so heavily censored. Like, there could have been tons of riots. So is ours, though, bro. Yeah, but like, we still know that January 6 happened. And, like, you know. We don't know that it happened. That was in Tifa.

That was a false flag. We still got the visuals. Allegedly. Wuhan is about a four-hour flight from Hong Kong. Jesus. I know, but, you know, like, if you had to. So you're saying, so you're saying COVID was made to stop the Hong Kong protest. Well, basically, I'm not saying this has happened, but there is like something, you know, a little sketchy that the CCP was having all this revolt and all this revival.

There was like a bunch of stuff coming out of China then about like various turmoils. and then it's all went away now that COVID hit and they could keep everyone inside. Okay, so it's like the domino meme, the first domino is various turmoils. And then the second domino is global pandemic. Well, to be fair to your point, your point about Wuhan being a four-hour plane ride, like it's probably like a 30-hour plane ride from here. We still got COVID. The distance didn't really seem to get in the way of COVID spreading.

And didn't they shut down everything much fast? than anybody else? Yeah, they did in Wuhan, but they also were like the first country to reopen after COVID. So then when the rest of the world was shut down, they were reopening and then they kind of got a head start on the rest of the world.

So maybe they released it just to slow down the rest of the world so they could take the lead. Yeah, also I think that if China was intentionally weaponizing the virus to target a specific population, they probably just would have gone straight for Taiwan. Like it's an island. If you infected Taiwan right off the bat,

their biggest enemy, the Republic of China, the nationalists, who technically still claim ownership of mainland China, that would have been probably the first one they would have gone after and just taken out most of that population, most of the older people that are still alive from back when they used to live in mainland China. And is China really afraid of just like pulling up and shooting people? Like do they need to do it like those backhanded way?

Yeah, I think they are afraid now because they saw all the bad press they get. That's why when shit was going down, in Hong Kong. They didn't want to roll tanks into Hong Kong because they knew the rest of the world would make a big fuss about it. So I'm not super up on my foreign politics. You know, I'm vaguely aware.

So could somebody, unless you want to hit it after or do you want to do like the history of China? We can talk about it right now. Okay. So I'm aware like people in Hong Kong's want democracy. That's how I saw it under some like loose article I read. And they're protesting for that. Is that what the protests were about?

Well, I guess Hong Kong. Hong Kong had democracy and they were trying to take a while and then they had a plan in place that like by 2047 Hong Kong was going to become fully part of China again because in 1990, the UK gave Hong Kong back to China. But they couldn't just make it part of the country overnight because it's very different. Okay, hold on. It dates back to colonialism. Yeah, it does. It does. Yeah.

Okay, so real quick, because this is really not my bag. So I'm just really asking questions here. So Great Britain owned Hong Kong at one point in time? Yeah. Okay. And then they gave it back to China. Yes. And when was that?

I think 1990. 19. Or maybe 1997. Was it 99? I think it was late 90s. And so what are they protesting now, though? Well, like China was just slowly passing laws making Hong Kong more like China. So they tried passing one law that said, okay, you can still be a democracy.

but like China is going to choose who you can vote for like we're going to choose like five people that you can vote for I mean shit that's what we do here I was going to say yeah that seems democratic yeah it's perfect actually so yeah so yeah so Hong Kong options than we get we only get two I think England was technically were they leasing Hong Kong from China they like a hundred year lease yeah yeah and then their hundred year lease ran out mm-hmm at the end of the century I think and they're like okay They want to re-up sign it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, price went up too high. Supermax.

Yeah, the neighborhood, you know what? This neighborhood's changed a lot in the last hundred years. I think we're going to have to pack up the U-Haul and jet. And they just gave it back to China. And then there's like that transition period. Also, Donnie and I, when we went to Hong Kong, that was right before the start of the riots, right? That was like a month or two. Yep.

Interesting time. Yeah, interesting before. A month before. So we had either just right there. Was there someone inspiring the youth there? Most places I travel to after. I leave the place completely goes to shit. I was like, I remember

I went to Columbia and I'm just telling everybody it's so safe, it's so peaceful. And like a week after I left, just riots all over the place. I love it. You're the O'Dell Beckham. Caravans. China, like, COVID broke out as soon as I left China. Damn. Oh, fuck.

You might have brought it to the U.S. What we should talk about, though, is how the UK got possession of Hong Kong in the first place. That's a good start point. Because it was related to the opium wars. Do you guys know about those are all? I'm vaguely aware of that it was where they wanted to trade with China and China said fuck off and Japan said yeah let's do it and so um or Iraq could be wrong that's kind of close like yeah like the UK and France and like the US everybody wanted to

trade with China because China had a bunch of stuff that they wanted but China didn't have a lot of things that they wanted from the UK and stuff so it they're kind of it was hard to trade And then they realized, well, if we get all of China hooked on opium, then they're going to want a lot of opium. We can just give them some opium for all the stuff that we want. So that's what they did. The UK would like pick up all the opium from India and then sell it to China and get like all of the things that China had in exchange for it. Like I don't know if it was if it was tea or whatever. And so they did that.

And then for a while, like China started to develop a serious. serious opium problem just like everybody was hooked on it and finally the emperor was like okay no more selling opium to us like stop and UK was like no we're not going to stop and just invaded China and like went to war with China the opium wars where they pretty much the UK won because at that point China was like they hadn't they didn't have like a modern military at all world history is interesting because it's a lot of a lot of conflicts are basically based on the exact same thing, which is one country has something that gives you a shitload of serotonin and endorphins. And then if you can just continue to provide that to somebody, then you're

good. But when you stop, then you're in trouble. It's a very, very simple explanation for most wars that occur out there. Like now the big global conflicts are with like trade tariffs. Because guess what? China's producing a shitload of cell phones that give us that opium like sensation gives of serotonin same type of thing just i'm just saying the more history changes the more repeats itself so yeah the UK won and they were like all right you have to allow us to start selling your people your people opium again and like part of the treaty was they got possession of Hong Kong which at the time was just like a crappy island off the coast of Guangzhou china so they were like who cares if we give them like this small island not a lot of people lived on it

It was just like a fishing village, and then the UK turned it into this gigantic city. So their 99-year lease started in 1898, and once that lease ended and they gave it back to China, there was so much financial apparatus there that really helped China open up into this sort of producing everyone's goods in the world. So like when Bill Clinton made the Trans-Pacific Partnership back in the day, it was because of Hong Kong becoming going back to China. and becoming the sort of outlet for all of their goods into the rest of the world. It's like the financial center of Asia. Yeah, or one of the financial centers of Asia, yeah. So with all the shipment and stuff.

Yeah, because it's where they could have banks that the government didn't control at all because it was still like a completely different financial system. But yeah, I mean, because when I used to travel from China to Hong Kong, like you still have to get your passport stamped and stuff, they use a different currency. So it does feel like a completely different. country. But then there were all the riots because they were like, all right, you guys are

starting to change things up and starting to take more control over Hong Kong. But then the riots, I feel like just sped the process up. And now just over the past like two years, Hong Kong has become like a lot more like China. It was because it was supposed to be not until 2047 that like Hong Kong was finally part of China. But I think over the past years, they've really sped things up a bit. Yeah, that's crazy to think that anywhere in the world could have like an open parent plan of how you're going to be transitioning anything for 50 years and actually stick to it yeah like so much shit would get changed because especially if you live in a society that has elections people are just going to get mad because something's not happening

that they want to have happen and next thing you know you're voted out and they vote in the guy that's trying to like fuck up the entire plan on purpose yeah you know so tie the tie the NBA to all this shit like how did how did lebron james get motherfucked well all right well i think we need to make a distinction here at least my opinion because the government of China they suck like they're they do some really bad stuff the people of China

are good people right just like anywhere else that you would go in the world so it's not like we're saying like all Chinese people are doing anything well I don't think anybody thought but the government has their hands are not clean Big T do you want to get a start on LeBron James I know that well we said we're going to the

China episode he was like okay I'll take you know I'll take it bro well I'll stick a LeBron put me on a floor slap in the car it all it all started with uh the rockets gm darrell are you fucking stealing big t's thunder right now don't yeah no you know that he wanted to talk about lebron wow oh he could talk about lebron james well he could talk about lebron but like we got to talk about the start oh you just want to set this he's given a seat he assists okay you're opening for big t it's good podcast yeah yeah you're right pulling it up open it for him yeah darrell moire

does not match your jacket, by the way. Thank you. Carmel can go with any flannel. Thank you, sir. I'll defend him. Camo can go with any flannel. That's not true. Bro, I'm not about style.

That's not even camo. That's just green. No, it's got some camo. It's got some camel. It's on it. It's not camel. Trust me. Billy's wearing camels.

Wait, wait, wait, what is the difference? A camo is like, it's entirely camouflage. That has a lining of camel. That's like, I like the fact that people think I hunt, but I don't really hunt. Dude, it's old, bro, it's old Navy. That's what I'm saying. Nobody buys hunting gear for Old Navy, my jeep. I literally, I don't think I've bought clothes since high school.

I don't think you even bought them that. I mean, I know, yeah. I mean, this is the first, I bought this jacket when I was in Seattle. This is the first jacket I might have bought in a good two years. I don't buy clothes. I don't buy clothes. I'm with you, but that doesn't match. Anyway, Darryl Morris basically said he stood with the Hong Kong.

protesters. Well, he liked to tweet. Yes. I thought, no, he tweeted something out. He made a, he made like a statement

attached to his name. Is it still here? Is it? Can we pull it up? Yeah, I'm looking at a tweet. But then he had to apologize because basically

the CCP went nuts. They were going to not air any Rockets games on their streaming, their NBA streaming service in China. And they're, they're really connected. I remember going to,

because I went to a lot of, this is the one thing I'm boogey about, travel. and basketball games. Like, I got to sit at Corside. And so, like, I always sat Corside in the Rockers games. And these, like, I think it's like four to six seats in the, and center court, there was always Chinese people sitting there.

Like, and I didn't know what it was. But there's some kind of connection there. I don't know what it is. It could be. They love it. I'm going to know, yeah, I was there. Yeah. But there's some kind of connection that I think, like, with ownership or something.

It has to be. So you could argue that the, there's a larger majority of China that loves the NBA more than the U.S. I agree. with that. Like when Kobe went over there? Kobe's huge. I don't think it's the NBA. I think it's specifically Kobe. Yeah, Kobe was their God. I don't even know how

this is a stat I've known for a long time. I have no idea how one would verify it. So everyone just be cool. More knock off Kobe jerseys get sold and bought in China than any NBA jersey in America on a year basis. Just knock off Kobe. I mean, just by the sheer number of people that live over there.

Right. It makes sense. It tracks. But they love Kobe like. Yeah, Kobe. I mean, they like Kobe like I love Kobe, I think. yeah that's tough yeah that's my no one in china really watches the chinese basketball league i would be the only one going to games and i'd be like oh are you going to the shangai shacks game tonight and they're like fuck we don't watch the cb a dude we watch the NBA what time the day does it what time does it is it like in the morning uh yeah i think it i think they play all the games live like while they're going on in the u.s so yeah most games would be in the morning yeah

they're they love the NBA over there and darry uh i mean so much money from China is now going into the NBA because of all the streaming rights, all that stuff. So Darry, he made a statement saying that he stood with the protesters for democracy in Hong Kong. China, the CCP flipped out about that. He got leaned on by mysterious forces, such as probably Adam Silver. To be like, hey, you know, like all the money that all the players make, probably two-thirds of that is coming from China. I actually don't know how much it is. It's a lot. It's a significant revenue stream for the NBA. And plus Nike has all their production overseas, like.

And then LeBron, so short, so long story short, people in Hong Kong are protesting to keep democracy. And the government of China doesn't like it. China has a big stake in the NBA economically. And the players, and Big T, I think your quarrel is you speak, up for justice in America, but not overseas because money's tied to it. And not even don't speak up about it. Speak against it. Like speak in favor of the Chinese government. LeBron spoke in favor of the Chinese government. Talk to me, man. Actually, this is interesting. I'm looking at his, he called Mori, quote, misinformed and not educated about the

situation. Correct. So one thing to add, this was right around the time that LeBron James was out in China to play a game like usually the NBA will play a couple games in China preseason the rockets were too aren't they yeah wait I thought the rockets were over there too they were in China that's that's why when it first happened I was like I I kind of forgive LeBron for not speaking out against it while he's physically in China get home for get home then say what you need to say but then he just put his foot in his mouth like four times and that's the other thing the NBA as a whole who will move an all-star game out of Charlotte North Carolina because of a transgender bathroom bill

I'm with that. Play games in China where they're rounding up Uighur Muslims into concentration. I'm not with that. I think I'm with this is a big deal.

Handshake moment. This, this, I think a lot of like, I think pretty much everyone was like LeBron, you're a fucking moron after this. I think that was a pretty understood. I think, and I think that politically I think we can get here, right? I think there are people who are actually morons.

I don't think LeBron's a moron. I don't think you think LeBron's a moron. I think you can say he's logically inconsistent and some of these. might be tied to his pocketbook. Very stupid. Well, I don't think it was stupid. It was hypocritical but for money.

And I think he was doing it for a reason. I think if we change the discourse to like, you're fucking stupid to like, I could see why you did that for money, but you see why it's inconsistent. Then we could have like a real dialogue. Sure. Yeah. I don't think those are mutually exclusive, though. I think it was a very dumb thing to say.

So you think he's actually a moron? Well, no. But dumb in what regard? Because the NBA would argue it was a very smart thing for their front free. In terms of making the NBA and himself more money, it was... Which you should be in favor for? I'm in favor of everyone making as much money as they can. He could have not said anything, though.

Yeah, he didn't have to... I don't agree, actually. If the NBA wanted to salvage... Because, like, the salary cap did take a hit even after LeBron said. But the NBA could have said something. Yeah, but LeBron is the NBA for all intents and groups. It's like what Adam Silver is saying something doesn't mean as much as LeBron James said or something. It just doesn't.

It doesn't resonate the same. As it shouldn't, though. That's where, like, the NBA would argue, like, no, this is actually very smart from a financial standpoint. From a hypocritical standpoint, very dumb. It looks bad for sure. What I didn't like in real time when it was happening was people trying to equate it to undermine everything he had said about things that had happened in this country because that

did feel mutually exclusive. Like, they don't have anything to do with one another in my mind. When he's speaking out for things that were affecting his people and his communities in this country doesn't feel the same as when he's talking about something in another country that most people didn't even care about or know what's happening. But then you can see where someone would say if you are speaking out against something that you feel is perpetuated by the government and is affecting people, then why would you speak out in favor of a government that is actively like killing people? I think he was silenced more than he didn't care. No, I think I agree with you to an extent, right? I agree with you, Big T, this is a big moment for me and you. I think we should just take a pause and just.

Yeah, I agree. We're clapping and we're still in the air. Everybody breathe this. This is a good moment. I can feel the love right now. I do agree with you. I think that when you talk about, because that was like an MLK stance, right? And it bothers the fuck at me when Republicans bring up MLK because all they do, they have not,

they probably haven't even read the entire. I have a dream speech. What about Aaron Rogers? That was the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Aaron Rogers is my dude, but to quote MLK and some shit like that is ridiculous. But an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere. I agree with that, right? And so what you're saying is being logically consistent.

I, I 1,000% agree with that. I think in LeBron's case, he has so much, he's representative of so much. It's hard for him to be accurate. It's hard because I'm, the first one would say, I don't know a whole bunch about China politics and what's going on to Hong Kong. But just from the service level, people want democracy.

They kind of want a little bit more range from their government. I'm for that. And if you're going to actively call somebody else uneducated when you're clearly not educated about that subject, that's not I right. And that's where me and you, you know what I'm saying, we are aligned.

He was educated on the one specific thing where he was like, Darry, shut the fuck up. you're ruining all of our money. That's where he was very educated. And that's the part I don't like, though, right? Because it's, it's, it's, the shit that bothers me about the NBA and the NFL and their pro-Black Lives Matter stance is that it's, it's just there's no substance. Like if you really want to have, they painted the back of the end zone.

Yeah. Have you not seen their helmets? It says end racism. Yeah. Underneath the upright. Where have you been? Actually, they took that out because it's salute to service month. So now it says.

Oh, yeah. Thank you, vets. But the issue I have is, like, they'll do shit like that, right? It's performative. Where if you really want to help black communities, like, go really put money into those communities, go start STEM programs and, like, do it on a very consistent basis. They just kind of, they give turkeys in the hood and be like, we're helping, we're giving back.

Right. That's what's bothersome about the performative politics of the NBA in the NFL. And if you're going to be, like, for you're going to be like, for social justice and for the freedom and in caring about human beings, didn't do that across the board, not just when it's protecting your dollar. Because when we first knelt for the flag, it was like six of us. The NFL, the president was calling their sons of bitches. The NFL was on our heads.

The owners was on our heads. And we was like, fuck y'all. And then now that it's cool and we understand that the public majority agrees with it. Now they got all this belief in it. Now they're back. They was backing us now. But it's too late then. Now they're sponsoring, like, kneeling time.

Yeah. Kneeling time brought to you by Northrop Grumman. Old Navy khakis, they don't crease. I was actually disappointed even like, you know, I'm skeptical about a lot of stuff, but I was even disappointed how quickly the discussion turned from actually having a conversation about what needed to be talked about with race into just getting mad about the stuff that was related to that conversation, you know, like where it's just like, oh, this guy put this on the back of his jersey.

Oh, Myers-Linnard isn't standing. during this part now we're mad at each other and it's probably a bad example You know when I heard Yeah Things went What did he put on about

No no it's just like he was one of the ones That didn't take a knee And then it became a discussion Oh this person need this person Didn't take a need The big race is on Twitch The big thing isn't Whether or not you're on your knee

There's a giant discussion That that's just supposed to be drawing attention to Well and now all the attention Is on this person took a knee this person didn't. Yo, you know what I was out. Steve A. Smith debate and Ray Lewis being like, I took two knees. That was the wackish.

Jerry Jones. Ray Lewis is my dude. That was the wacky shit I've ever seen in my life. He's crying. I'm going to take two knees for Jesus. Like, spread out. When I was officially out of the like sports and like performative art shit was when I heard Chris Weber and he went on like this monologue and I couldn't.

Please tell me you've seen this call me. I probably have. keep on like some monologue of like how it was somebody has to pull this clip up but I can't even I can't even replicate what it was because he was trying to say something very impactful but it was just fucking he just wouldn't he wasn't like saying anything he didn't land his plane he just kept saying like phrases that he had heard yeah Chris Weber often talks like someone has like a gun to his family and like they'll pull the trigger it's like speed the movie but it's Chris Weber talking instead of a bus keep going there's nothing we can agree on big T when when the

Democratic caucus put on the Kintay cloth and they all took a knee for a photo trash that was crazy ridiculous I don't remember that oh yes you do Pelosi it was Nancy Pelosi took a knee okay she's a traditional African guy yeah I vaguely do yeah horrible dog it's just horrible it looks Photoshop yeah it's like it's like it's like her Schumer a couple other people it just it was gross the conversation very quickly shifted to all the stuff that was just not important the related to that conversation during because that all happened in the bubble during that stretch

I've never heard the anthem more in my life than during the time when they were protesting the anthem like they were airing it on TV like more like and to the NBA like I agree with you the NBA isn't a terrible job with all of this there have been certain individuals who have done good but as a whole as a league been terrible the WMBA was with the shits

they were like we're off the court we might not even fucking play and I'm like you're not airing that shit like they were making real stances and where I do side with Big T with the LeBron shit, Bill Russell wouldn't have carried water for the NBA like that

over a check. Like there are players in the history. Kareem wouldn't have done that. Yeah, and Kareem's been very critical of LeBron and he'll be very critical of anyone as long as he's alive

to still pen letters. Okay, so I thought it was only two people that I would get like starstruck if I saw. I thought it was going to be Jim Carrey and Hove. If I ever seen him in real life,

like them, them two were the only, I've never seen him in real life, but if I do, I might be like, yo, that's that's Jim Carrey. I saw Karin with Doja Bar in real life. I was like, okay, yeah, that's, that's Corrine. Yeah, he is, it kind of stopped me in my track.

He's an imposing figure. Yeah, and he's tall of shit, too. Super tall. We interviewed him one time, and he was, he put his feet out underneath the desk. The whole length of the table. And it was like an entire long, like, family dinner table size thing. No, I'm saying. It was his legs.

His legs went like all the way to the end of it. Not much. Yeah. Very, very intimidating guy. wouldn't do that for bill rossel uh there's no telling i didn't think i was gonna do it for koreen but i saw him at a dodger game this summer actually i saw him in a dodge game and i didn't even say i couldn't yeah i usually leave celebrities alone when i see him uh and i was like that's yeah that did it from yeah so when are you going to bring your podcast co-hosts court side do a game uh

good question who that'll be that'd be a good 1520 racks my d what's the cheap Marks of the checks ain't like that. What's the cheapest courtside seat that you can get? Oklahoma City. Yeah. We have a hookup there. I mean, the Rockets now, right? So I used to pay a good like $1,500, $2,000 for a seat.

That's not bad. It's not bad for a Rockets game. But like when they was like really busting, it got a little higher. L.A., you go, good luck. Yeah, fine one. I mean, yeah. Well, they kind of suck right now. They're probably going to.

No, they're still going to be trashed. All they take is always going to bust. I just want to. I think it just depends on. It depends on a team. So I'll say anywhere from 1,500 to 5 grand. I'm going to look up Oklahoma City if they play the Pistons this year. I feel like that would be.

That's your idea of the two worst teams in a way. We fly out. We fly out. Pissons are bad. I just think it's very funny. Yeah, we have a hookup now with them. With who? The Oklahoma City Thunder.

Aubrey McClendon. No. Alex Bennett. Alex Bennett. Her father-in-law is the owner. Her father-in-law is Mr. Bennett. I think we could play for the Thunder if we were. Yeah, I would like to play.

Hey. They're having me I got a mean 18 footer man I'm putting in a good word I'm telling you I'm dead serious about it About shooting a long no my 18 footers Long twos in the modern NBA You're not playing seeing my court

I give 24 hour fitness nightmare Cannot stick me in it You really do think you're Kobe shooting long shoes I'm telling you that's my shot Disgusting I have modeled my game after Kobe And he modeled it is after Jordan I will pay homage but That's my game my game is COVID

18 footer little turn around So it's like a reverse Pokemon evolution Like Jordan's Charzard and your Charmander I'll take that As long as I'm in the lineage I'm not going to play I think none of them could tackle me soon Okay I'm looking at Jordan could tackle you

For sure Jordan is huge Of course he could Basketball players are so goofy on the football field Have you ever seen a move? It's different No I guess I get that I'm just thinking more to his both of them

Would be able to tackle you I will shake the dog shit out of any one of them They're far too competitive He would hunt you down I will put you in, you're insane. I'm not a chance. That's what I did. I understand that.

He woke up every single day and figured out a way to put the ball through a hoop. Very well. To be fair, no, he didn't. He woke up every day and he was like, when can I play golf? Like, he very much treated basketball like a day job. The other half of his day was spent to learn how to put a ball in hoop. I woke up every day figuring out how to not get on the ground. Michael Jordan woke up every day.

He said, how much can I drink and still play these 36 holes of golf? Michael Jordan can't attack on me, dog. It's disrespecting me right now. This is worse than PFT saying you can't catch? I don't know what, and I still need a 30. Now that we in person, what's the matter of fact? We're going to do that live show. Live show.

Live 30 seconds. To be a PFT. Yeah. Crazy. I've found some tickets here, lower sideline. Row A looks to be about mid-court. Detroit Pistons at Oklahoma City Thunder on April Fool's Day. I like this.

405 each. Okay. Hey. A little road trip. I'm so. I'll take a train. Does a train run through? I'm sure there's a train that goes there.

Yeah, I think you can go to Chicago and then cut it. I'm not even drinking. I'm so down for this right now. Let's do it. That's be very funny. You're down? Yeah.

I'm down. $400? $400 per ticket. That's the best point. Now is Ro A just the front row of the seats and not courtside, though? I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, we got to know someone in the know.

Ask you a hook up here. Yeah. Set it up. Oh, no. It'll be an event. My mistake, 450 for floor seats. The other ones were row A. That was before the floor seats.

So, good question. $45 and more. Yeah. I'm okay with that. I'll spring for it. Billy, do you have any, any fun facts or what's on the statute today about China? So I, you know, I knew Donnie would bring a lot of background knowledge on China. I just had a couple current events that just shows how China is just doing a lot of CCP type stuff.

Okay. So. Their government's being all government. I mean, recently. Yeah. Recently. Finally, so if you guys remember this, back in 2019, there was a Chinese businesswoman who was found at Mar-a-Lago trying to sneak in and meet Donald Trump. She was recently just deported back to China.

In her hotel room, they found signal detector, tons of hidden cameras, nine USB drives, SIM cards and cell phone, 8K and cash, several credit cards and debit cards. recently a tennis player just disappeared which after accusing her coaches of assault I'm not sure the sexual yeah sexual and basically Xi Jinping's been going after a celebrity culture in the country basically he's banned so if you guys are familiar with like K-pop like Zijing is banned

like any sort of K-pop effeminate looking men from their TV their television and he you know he even like jack maw disappeared who's the head of Ali Baba for a while who's in charge of determining like how feminine is too feminine of a man to be on television oh this is a good conversation half yeah he also one man's one man committee for sure it's there's a there's definitely a board of masculinity I feel like you'd be good at that job billy I think that would be hilarious yeah I'd be like that's man's man no he would just he would just acquiesce to all the insales he would just say whatever they say so they don't come after him

there was another there was an in cell attack recently talk to me talk to me man he'll just got a Google about about like where are they get away yeah five years ago China banned the mention of time travel so if you

if you were writing a TV show or a movie you couldn't talk about time travel that sounds more like they're frustrated that they don't have time travel so they just don't want to hear it's either that or they fucking have it because they're worried like a show about time travel it might like rehash some things that happened in their past that they don't even want

people to know oh that's what conservatives are doing right now right big yeah that's what they call you say I just look that's fucked up that you can't talk about time travel I know it's like one of the most fascinating subjects I'm kind of with them like either it's kind of like flying cards either do it or stop talking about it I mean just do it do it been the physics laws figure it out or to stop talking about it yeah nah let us imagine You kind of believe in time travel, though. Huh? You kind of believe in time travel.

No, not as we think of it, but yeah, I think in order for, not to get too science again, but in order to travel through time, you have to have as much, you have to have an infinite amount of energy, right, to go the speed of light. And there's no way to get an infinite amount of energy right now. We have a finite way to get energy. So there's no way you can actually go light speed right now. How do you have to have an infinite amount of energy to go speed of light? How do you know that? Uh, there's a whole bunch of math behind it, like, and I will not pretend to know that I do, but from all of my study and research of it, uh, in, in order to, like, to increase speed takes energy, right? And the fastest known thing in our universe is light. Light is the fast. Light is the speed limit in our universe. There's, there's nothing that can go faster than that, um, technically. Um, and so in order to reach that, right, because when you reach light speed, time stops. A photon does not experience time, which is wild, right?

So when a light, when the light is born, it dies. And it experiences no time in between. It's, it's wild concept to think about. But, but, but, but, and that's the, that's the, now I, I understand what they've been talking about. I'm all in. This is one of their better ideas. Yeah.

Credit where credits do. I think go check. We've done a lot of shit on them, but fair is fair. That's funny. That's funny. They probably just don't want people to like think, oh, what happened 50 years ago, cultural revolution. Yeah, yeah.

That type of. But then do you ban clocks? Like, what do you mean? Like, how stupid is it? I think they... It's not like they're banning nerds. They're just getting nerds out of here. They're like, no effeminate men and no nerds.

No, because I think they banned tattoos on TV, too. And kids are only allowed to play video games three hours a day. Oh, my God. I mean, that's probably... That's far more than I thought it would be, to be honest with it. I don't know if that's a China-specific problem, but when I feel like I read about kids overdosing from playing video games, I feel like it's from that corner of the world. It happens in China.

Yeah, there was a guy in China. and he sat down for like two full days playing video games when he finally got up from the couch, he died on the spot. Yeah. That kills you? That kills you to just play?

Yeah, I think he had like a blood clot or something like that. He was just like in the same position for like two days playing video games. Got him. Stood up and died. I thought he legitimately overdosed from like dopamine because of how much he was getting from the game.

You can't overdose from dopamine. No, you can't. He overdosed because he was having so much fun playing video games. That's basically how people died from cocaine. He just had a way too much fun. I appreciate you like go psychotic Like people who do meth I don't think you go overdose on dope

It's a chemical I think you can Debrate your brain's dopamine Sources and so then you just go Into like a really bad depression Your brain's not working Okay yeah Balances that makes sense

Billy did you hear about that China has like mocked up U.S. aircraft carriers That they're using for bombing Yeah bombing exercises God I hope I die before this next World War pops off

So there was Going back to the LeBron thing real quick in the NBA interaction with China, one of the craziest things that happened. I remember this was right after, like, you know, the whole controversy where LeBron would issue a statement and then issue another statement apologizing for his brief. It was a very urban Meyer-like situation that was going on in LeBron James for a little bit. Then they showed like a graphic of China on ESPN and they put a seven dash line on the southeastern part of China, which makes no sense because they're just, They just showed an outline of the country, right? Because it's like, oh, this is above our sportscasters shoulder when we're talking about China. That makes sense.

Like you see on the news all the time. But they added that extra line in at the bottom. And I didn't know what it was. And I looked up. Apparently, it's like the most controversial thing ever that you can put on a map because the 7-dash line implies that China has all the rights to Taiwan and the entire South China Sea. And that's all their territory right there, which is not internationally recognized. And it literally shows that ESPN and Disney just awarded China fishing rights exclusively to the South China Sea and ownership of Taiwan, while Taiwan still thinks and maintains that they have ownership of mainland China. It's just very funny to see all the small little political give and take that goes into because you don't think about it that much.

I think as Americans, we don't really think about China. Don't think about anybody but... Donnie, you talked about this in your dragon skin documentary how a lot of this posturing by China is in order to like this hypernationalism is in order to be conducive

to keeping control because it's the only thing keeping the country together. Like this idea that Hong Kong is China. Remember you had players on your team who they basically had to have a talking about like you couldn't start talking shit to the Hong Kong players about China. Right

before we play, but you're saying, like, guys, like, like the coach of our team, he gave a speech. He was like,

all right, we're playing the Hong Kong team tomorrow. I want like no political talk. And then like one of the Chinese players just like screams right away. He's like Hong Kong's China. And like everyone just starts cheering. It's literally like,

Aaron, you might not know this. But Donnie won a Super Bowl in China. Yeah. And I scored the only touchdown of my career in Hong Kong. Did you ever win a Super Bowl? I didn't. He's actually a better football.

He's your only Super Bowl winner in this room right now. So he's a good football player, but Michael Jordan isn't. All right. Yeah. Now if you. Why do you think this thing can tap? I don't understand. I do think there were no worse athletes than Michael Jordan that had tackled you in your life?

There are two entirely different skill sets, my G. If you, if like to be, like you don't have explosion like this in the way that we do. Like you just don't. I certainly don't. No, no, I'm not talking about. Michael Jordan probably does. He could have to be. probably have trained for it.

Yes. But then a 6-6 defender would not be hard to shake. Like, I played 6-6-6-defenders. None of them were Michael Jordan. Exactly. That's what we're both there.

Michael Jordan was 6-6-what? 190? Tackling is a completely different skill, though. Give me his, give me his, give me his, I got, I got it. I think he's like 205. Yes, it's, it's probably 205. It's probably 2-30.

I'm playing, I'm playing 230. So it's, for sure. You're not tackling me. In an open field? He was about 1.95, 200. Yeah, you're not playing D-Line. I'm not saying, stonewall you three yards by the line of swimming. What are you saying?

I'm saying he's going to dive at your legs. Good luck. Okay. It's not me. It's Michael Jordan. Well, tell him good luck. I've got faith in Michael George. He definitely can't do it now.

He definitely can't do it now. Yes, your apologies. Fuck that. Right now he might be able to. I'm hot. He's put on a lot of. Yeah, you are. You're furious.

Yeah, he's like a defensive time. I think, listen, I think you have a really good game. I'm on your son. You have a really good game. you have over 100 yards but he gets he tackles you once no i'm saying no who is the worst tackler you ever played against michael jordan i think is there anybody uh actually i'm curious who would have a better shot tackling you jordan or coby coby why because i like him better yeah that's what i figured who is the worst guy who was the guy that you saw before game and you're

like oh this guy no chance um or who did tackle you and you were disgusted it yourself when you got up there was never like any like i like i'll be honest at that level it's you know it was it's the art of war never underestimate your entering and so that's kind of how i approached it i never really looked like oh he's trash i would think he's trash in my head but i would never treat him like he's trash you know what i mean um there was one dude who i could like i bothered me that i couldn't get off on him like i wanted to he was the he was the best db tackler that i ever that was paused to he's the best db tackler i've ever won against um Von Tate Davis.

Okay. Von Tate Davis just knew my moves. Like, and it was annoying. I played him all the time. He played for Miami and he played for the cult. So we played him twice a year. He's the guy that quit at halftime. No.

He's a guy that retired when his body told him it was time to retire. It just so happened it was at halftime. That was opening week, right? I retired mid-season two. It was in middle of the game. But it was week one, wasn't it? I have no break. No, I don't think it was like, it was like week.

Because it was after me. So, so I was, I think we, I set off a chain of event. So I retired like game five or six. Andre Johnson retired like two weeks after that. And I think then Vante retired. I thought his was September 16th, 2018. So that made in like week two. Yeah.

I remember people being like, why the fuck did you do training camp if you knew you were just going to retire? Didn't he have an incentive in his contract that he had to reach and then he got a certain amount? I can't tell you, but all I could tell you was like, when my body was like, I'm not with it anymore. Like, I just knew. And I didn't give a fuck about the money at that point. So I was like, I don't want to waste your time.

That's what I told Adam Gates was my coach. I said, I don't want to waste your time. I don't want to waste my time. He was wasting your time. No, hold on. Hold on. Adam Gates, when I left Miami, I don't know what happened. But when I was there, he was a really good coach, though.

Really? One of my favorite coaches I've ever played for. Players coached, everybody loved him, really knew his shit. Like, if you, Miami went to the, uh, Playoffs that first year I was there. They lost to the Steelers that year. I mean, when I left, I got calls from my guys, but, yo, he's tripping now.

I don't think coaches just get power hungry. And I don't know, because I still got a good rapport with him. I don't got no problem with him. He treated me really good when I was there. You right, Billy? Oh, they're tripping, though. He can't believe you're defending Adam. He's beside himself.

No, I just fell off. Did you play with Jay Cutler? I didn't, but he would always talk about j cutler yeah that was his because that was that one yeah that's why you knew who he had that meal ticket like jettler had that great year with him and so adam gays was just like reminding people he was like hey look what i did with jay he was he was he loved j cutler he was always telling me about how impressive he was and stuff yeah yeah i mean i was like i brought him in then he finally brought him in then he did bring him into miami i think what is

like playing in miami i feel like it would just be like we overused the word distraction a lot i feel like in sports like oh that player is a distraction when in reality if you have you know locker room with professional athletes they can probably figure out how to get the shit done on their own but i feel like playing in miami is absolutely a massive distraction well i so the facilities are actually in fort lauderdale so it's like what a 30 40 minute drive and so i stayed in for a lot of dale at that time i was 30 i don't really give a shit about the night life like that but i could see you get drafted in first round and you got money and you and you in south beach like 22 years old you got 30 million dollars i could see i could see how that could be a little bit of a distraction

I would die. I never, I don't, I don't like clubs anymore. Yeah. So by that time, I couldn't give a, I couldn't give a fuck about that shit. And is Houston and Miami a downgrading clubs? Uh, it depends on what kind of clubs. Houston's a little more, more, more, a little more known for the, um, strip. Yeah.

What's it in New York? They'd be working. No, strip clubs in New York. No, but like the New York teams, like, did you take it's nightlife being close to the city? like a lot of implosion I think it's the staff man I think Billy's just like

why do the Jets suck Yeah I mean I'd like to handle this one That has nothing to do with the city I think staff The talent value is You know I think a general dog My beef with NFL The coaching carousel that is

It's like They just think Oh the coach lost it or whatever Like no like sometimes it's just shitty players Sometimes the coaches They don't have good chemistry Or whatever the case may be But like

like when we when we were playing a jets and rex ryan was the coach he was one of the best defensive coaches i played against he's a fucking good at that shit but then you know the whole feet thing happened and then i don't know i don't know why people care about shit like that i think it's just mark sanchez became mark sancho i mean i don't want shit on buddy but it's just like if if you don't have ballers like you're not going to win it's just really not even more simple than that although rex ryan came on uh part of my take a couple weeks ago and he pointed out that he had the highest score ever in the history of the state of Maryland for problem solving and logic. I don't know if that's an actual test that they give there, but Rex Ryan said it and I

choose to believe it. I don't know what, like, is there a test that, like, is administered to adults in Maryland to measure your, your problem. Voluntary testing for adults. Because if so, he claims he got the highest score ever. Right by the COVID stand. Come test your logic. In the history of the state of Two hours, here's your pencil. They should be testing for adults, just for no other reason, but to just clearly label who is a nerd that I don't want to ever hang out with by the people who choose to go and get tested voluntarily. And then there's a sweet spot, right?

Because if it's too low, like, I'm cool off of that as well. That's true. Yeah. If you go out there and you're like, wow, turns out I'm an idiot. Like workplaces should just send their employees there just to get a baseline day one. That's tough. Slipary slope there. That is a very slippery slope.

I'm just, yeah, you just stop testing after you get out of college. Probably for a good reason. The Jets are just bad talent evaluators. Yeah. That's not the city's fault. I agree, man. And I think, I think this is the biggest thing with pro sports is a whole bunch of motherfuckers that have never played and don't really know shit about the sport are picking

who's going to be on a team. And they're just bad at looking at that shit. There's a problem I've always had, too, like especially with teams that are perpetually really bad. They'll hire a coach, and there's usually like a very loose plan. any plan at all and then like two years especially in football two years in they're like uh you you suck with this team that you inherited that sucked you haven't won a super bowl yet you're fired we're going to do all like you got to give a guy five six years and i understand like they talk

about like oh the fan base gets gets weary and and they'll like what are they going to do the fans like Detroit lion fans aren't going anywhere yeah Cleveland brown fans did not go like these teams suck forever they don't go anywhere you might as well at least try a real fucking five year plan and if that doesn't work yeah maybe you switch some things up but teams to so quick to pull, like everyone's so worried about getting fired that they end up getting fired. But I think that's also ownership. Definitely.

When I found this out, I felt like such a horse because you realized that, you realize that, unless you know why I felt like a horse. You realize that like, yo, like these owners, we're just their fucking hobby, though. They made billions elsewhere. And like, this is just how they get together and the little yachts and shit, they're like, yo, we've whipped your ass. You're their fantasy, too. Yes, dog.

They're playing real-life fantasy football, and it's just fun to them. And so they don't really like, like, our owner. The owner for the organization that I played for, you don't even know what the fuck. Like, you don't know what's going on. Like, he kind of, like, he had to, I remember he used to come to practice,

like, but scripping his hand and shit. Like, there's no fucking way you know what you're looking at, dog. You got shit to, you got money to wash, man. So, like, the owners don't really know what they're doing. So they get pressure from the fan base. They get pressure from all these people. There's a bunch of people in their,

He said, hey, man, you should move to move. And then they just make bad decisions and it's perpetual bad decisions. And you got cats like Jerry Jones who thinks he's the greatest thing that football has ever produced and he's going to continue. At least he gives his head coach's time, though. I like that. He definitely gives his head coach's time. So let me pull back on my Jerry Jones.

Well, also because he's the general manager of the team. So he gets to talk to the coaches. He literally makes draft picks for the team as the owner, which is what I would do. If you're going to be an owner of an NFL team, yeah, that's not going to be my hobby. like my this is what I do now I'm an owner of a football team I'm going to be as invested in as I possibly can because it's fun like this is this is what my idea of a good time is to like be involved in a football team but Jerry Jones actually like he told Mike McCarthy before the game against the Broncos he gave him what his game

plan should be sat down and had a meeting can you imagine that like you're a football coach you've coached in the league for like probably what 15 years as a head coach and and the owner of the team is coming down be like all right we need a blitz on second down All right I've spotted some issues With the right guard's hands You need to tell the defense tackle Get low get low on him

And that's what Jerry Jones does Which I kind of I kind of do respect I respect the hell out of it I think Cubans figured it out the best Like he just wants to take jump shots With the team before the game And then he wants to be the loudest fan I thought you meant like the people Cubans

I'm like what? No they've got some work to do Yeah Mark Cuban he's got it yeah Just be the Be the guy that you can Like a fan You can afford to pay the funds for criticizing the official that nobody else can.

So you might as well just do it the loudest. I like that. So China. Don, is it true that you have better white privilege in China than America? Yeah. Well, it was that case until like maybe the past three years when there was kind of like a shift. Maybe it was once Trump was elected. But when I first moved to China, I felt like the most free I've ever felt.

because they kind of just like they were like we're going to let foreigners do their own thing like we're not really going to get involved with their lives they're in china they do their own thing as long as they're not like getting chinese people wrapped up in their shenanigans we don't really give a fuck so i mean i was in the u.s where you get arrested for just walking down the street with a beer and then i moved to china you can drink in public there's no like open container law i mean i was even smoking a lot of weed when i first moved to china and so i thought it was crazy a illegal over there i mean technically but they just didn't even know what weed was and so like all right that's fair you could just like smoke a joint and like a cab ride home from the club and uh maybe the cab ride would be like what's that smell and you'd be like ah this is an american cigarette and they'd be like all right cool they smoke a shitload of cigarettes over there right yeah tons of cigarettes you've popularized the uh they call are you do you call them hoons i call them hoons a lot of people think whoon is the Chinese word for cigarette it's not okay so you just invented that yeah actually a friend from like massachusetts was calling him hoons and so whenever like i came back from china

they were so cheap there i'll just bring back like 10 cartons yes i'd be like i got the hoons and you popularized the term it'll be hot box and cigarettes yeah the hoon squat right yeah you didn't popularize the the action or the activity yeah there's just a natural thing why do you think that is that people, when they smoke cigarettes, especially in China, they crouch down to a catcher stance. So it's not just smoking cigarettes. Like, people in China squat a lot, and they're incredibly good at it. Like, I need context behind that.

I mean, so the Asian squat is when your heels are flat on the ground. You know how, like, most people in the U.S. when they squat, it's more like on the balls of the feet. Yeah, a lot of people are just, oh, yeah, that's catcher. Yeah. Yeah. They do the full on. I can't even do it.

I use this. Ass to grass. Yeah, they go down. And they're very comfortable. They can do this and eat like a whole meal and shit. So that's the Asian squat. That's actually the premise behind the squatty potty. Yeah.

So in China, like most of the toilets are kind of just like a hole in the ground. They don't, they don't like have the seat. So maybe it just comes from like as a kid. They're always squawing to poo that they just. So I mentioned the squatty party. This is not an advertisement. This is just a real live endorsement. Squatty potty is designed so it's like you put it underneath the toilet and it makes

you like your knees are like in your chest and it's because our we evolved, we definitely evolved Big T, but we evolved in a way that we, that's how, that's how we evolved to poop. Yeah. And our toilets are designed and it kind of cuts off one of the, one of the two. So it makes it harder to push out. So when you squat like that, your fecal matter flows a little better. So that's, yeah. So I've always wondered why you know, like I guess people in China are actually pooping correctly.

You're supposed, yeah, yeah. You have better bowel movement. I wonder why we don't poop facing the toilet. Straddle it? Straddle it. Yeah, exactly. Straddle the toilet. Like a cool, like a cool youth pastor.

No, you know. Yeah. I mean, especially now with how much we're on our phones and get on a lot more sense. Yeah, you use the tank as a table. Yeah, you put your drink up there. Definitely. Your drink, nachos. I'm not riding this way.

My cereal, yeah. You on your own on this. You know how dogs always. stare at you and you're taking a shit? No. That's because it's like they're Why is a dog in the bathroom? We'll never know the joy of a dog

looking at you lovingly while you're pinching off a loaf. Yeah, because it's like a door. It's packed behavior. But they get in and they want to be like, hey, why are you leaving me? What's up? I love you. No, it's packed behavior. They're watching your back while you shit.

They do it while they shit too. Yeah. Like they'll make sure you're looking at them because that's when they're their most vulnerable. Yeah. It's like it's packed behavior. When you're shitting. you're very, like, it's very dangerous.

It's like I got the watch. So it's like, I got your back, bro. Danger. No, like back, like. I get what you're saying. Just the way you're saying. Yeah. I've always wondered.

Very dangerous. So that's why I just like it's natural instinct that you're not shit and face in the wall because you know what's behind you. That's why chicks go to the bathroom together too. I mean, that's actually a real danger, though. Actually, for real. Look out. Keep a burner with you when you go to the bathroom.

I'm going to just put a mirror there and now you can straddle the toilet. Next time I shit, Billy, you're coming with me. You're watching my six. You're watching my six. Because I'm facing the wall when I shit from here. Yeah, exactly. Billy is standing outside the stall while you shit. So I would say my like last year in China was when they really started to crack down on drugs.

And this never happened to me, but the cops would show up at clubs around like 2 a.m. 3 a.m., close all the doors and make all the foreigners there peeing a cup. And sometimes they wouldn't even do the pee test. they would come in and just like shave off a patch of your hair, like all the foreigners. And then test that. And I think it was just because they were looking for a way they could start to kick out a lot of foreigners because they're like, we have way too many here these days. And they're like the easiest way. They're probably all on drugs.

So, yeah, if you failed the test, you could, I think you would have a choice. You could do like two weeks in jail or you could just be kicked out of the country. So it's legal for, it's legal for police just to give you random. drug test there yeah yeah yeah and china okay i'm cool off of china i think yeah um i mean i was shocked though like at first when i moved there i thought like oh you get caught with weed you're locked up for like years yeah locked up abroad type stuff yeah i think that's more if you get caught like is selling drugs there yeah or that was like there was someone indones yeah yeah so turtarte like there australians they like always try to like go to bali with drugs

and they all just get end up life sentences just like it's fucked yeah if you get caught in the philippines with heroin they can kill you there there there's actually like a death penalty oh i mean they're the well you could do like a like motorcycle citizen's arrest but it's like citizens death penalty right like i think the the the leader of the philippines was like if you know someone doing heroin you can go kill him and not get in trouble yeah pack yow's gonna unseat that guy soon all right do you think he will be a little more liberal than that guy i don't know a little more I really don't know. You might crank it up. All right.

No more killing, but you can beat them up. Call me. I wouldn't be better. You have to come fight me today. Yeah. Mani Paci out. That's the sense.

Capture everyone doing drugs. Bring them to me. Ring five rounds. Yeah. It'd be pretty sick. If you can beat me in a fight, you can do drugs on Manny Packia. If that's how wars were decided,

just the president of the country just gets in a fist fight with somebody else. Well, we'll remember. The last, the last. We've been in deep shit. There's been a single. a single president of carbon in their hands I've talked about

Who's the most athletic Barack? I feel like the last I feel like Bill Clinton probably I was gonna say I think Clinton's got like some of that southern

like sneaky strength to him when Bill Clinton was in office he's like listen to Bill he's like 6 3 he was like 2 30 he's like Brandon Walker yeah I bet Brandon if you if you put Brandon I would take Brandon in a fight

you think you not not not saying I would fight him I'm saying no we're going to clip that for sure I also choose him to win I'm pretty sure that Bill Clinton was a little bit more athletic than Brandon. Although Brandon could dunk a basketball. He won his high school's slam dunk contest.

He did. Yeah, so he's not exactly like a slouch. He's a town of 17 people. Yeah, that's very true. Yeah, he went to the last chance of you to play basketball. And also, their hoop was probably like nine feet. It's like, okay, we need somebody that can dunk at this school. He had a peach basket in a ladder where he played.

Yeah. That would be way better if wars were just decided by the people who actually have the conflict. Like, y'all just fight it out and then we'll just go along whatever who wins and lose. Exactly. That's what I'm saying we have no quarrel with the Chinese people. No. But our two societies are on a collision course. I would say like my first five years in China were the most fun five years of my whole life. Like I had more fun the five years after college in China than I did my four years in college.

Yeah. By like a long ways. But you went to a nest guy. Yeah. Where did you stay? What parts did you stay? I was in Guangzhou my first year. And then the rest of the time I was in Shanghai.

And Shanghai just rages. It has one of the best nightlifes I've ever experienced. Really? Yeah. Like there used to be a club that would open at 4.30 in the morning and go until noon. And so like, pretty good. No windows or anything. So you would just like after you leave.

Those are hilarious. So you set your alarm to go to the club. I think it's the after hours. Yeah. Okay. It's okay. It makes sense. I'm like, I'm waking up 4.30.

It's going to be a hell of a morning. Imagine like if it's in a down. downtown officer and you're getting out for your lunch break from being an accountant and then the club next door is letting out at noon and the clientele that are coming out of there holy shit a lot of walks of shame i feel like my first two years after college i would be fine with like walking out of the club at 10 the morning and be like all right whatever i'll be back to normal by monday but now at my age if i did that like if i see the sun i'm like i'm fucked for the next four Yeah, that's a bad question.

No question. So I think it's important also to understand the history of China. They were, they've been a dominant civilization for about the last 2,000 years, maybe even a little bit longer than that. They were like, in their eyes, they were bigger than the British Empire. They were the center of the earth for so long. And then they hit a little road bump earlier this century. And the Japanese during World War II absolutely just took a shit.

lured them out. Those stories are insane. Have you guys ever read? I think it's like, I think it's literally called the rape of Nanking. Yeah. Just like,

horrific. Again, excuse my ignorance. Can somebody give me a brief history on the beef between the Japanese and the Chinese? Because when I went to Japan, like I figured it was like, I just,

my foreign politics are just spotting. I know some stay here, know some people, but Asian politics, I just don't really know that much about. They don't teach you that much, yeah. I really hadn't cared enough to learn but when I went to Japan

there was like I had a lot of tour guys I had people like talk to and I just got this sense that like they don't really get along with Chinese people like that I'm like what's the beef I didn't understand the beef

and nobody really explained it to Well there's a lot of like Asian on Asian racism right like inter Asian racism against one another even in America no I knew that when you grow up because I grew up with

I got a lot of Vietnamese friends and and like if you call them Chinese or Japanese like it's like a course it's like fucking race but it's like they get really like offended like the shit I get why but like I was talking more specifically like nationality wise versus like Japanese versus Chinese like what is the beef does anybody know um yeah well I know like China just used to be the dominant power and like all of the surrounding countries Japan Vietnam South Korea they had to pay homage to China like they it was called kowtow like they all had to

kowtow towards the chinese emperor it kind of just means like you're paying tribute or you need to like kneel and just let them know like you're the big dog out here and then when japan modernized crazy fast because like japan's are all these western countries are coming to asia they're taking land they're taken over like we need to modernize fast or the same thing is going to happen to us so then they managed to do it like in the span of like 50 years and then they could even compete with like the uk and that they kind of used their newfound power to be like all right china we're no longer your bitch like now we're going to make you our bitch and that was like when the chinese government was kind of falling apart there was a bunch of like warlords and so around

world war two or even before war two that's when they just started to roll into china and take over like huge parts of the country and yeah i mean during world war two it was just horrific like there was a lot of war crimes that's when uh that's when my grandfather was over there like before world war two during world war two he was up in like the northern countryside of china and so he was it was the nationalists and the communists that were represented the chinese at the time they were involved in a power struggle between the two they hated each other but they had japan invading from the north so it was like okay the enemy of my enemy is going to be my friend for a while so it was like the two of them against uh japan and then japan just slaughtered like new

millions of people in China, just absolutely brutal stuff. Worse than just killing people. Yeah, they would also use them for medical, like, experiments. If they were doing research, they would just use Chinese as, like, human guinea people. I don't even want to mention some of this. Like, I had to read it for school once. Like, they were, it's, like, terrible. So from their perspective, China was used to being the big dog.

Japan comes in, absolutely subjugates millions of them after World War. two, there's a big power struggle. The communists beat out the nationalists. The nationalists all evacuate to Taiwan, which is there that. That's where that government is right now to this day. The communists take over China. They're like, you know what? We're not going to let that happen to our people anymore.

By any means necessary, we're going to modernize. We're going to take the world over again because we're China. That's what we've done for the last 2,000 years. Yeah. It's like ingrained in the culture. So, yeah, they really just had a 100-year span, which they call in China. They call it their century of, humiliation. And it was like the 100 years where all the Western countries and Japan finally

came in, we're just taking advantage of China. And now they're like, okay, that stage of our country is over. We need to get back on top. So their, so their current status is like residual ego problems. Yeah. Due to that 100 years. A lot of countries in the world share that same thing. But with China, it's like magnified to an extreme level where the, in the. entire reason that their government right now is so authoritarian is because we're like we're not going to go through that bullshit they got bully so the pendulum swung so far that now they're like any means necessary we're not going to be anybody's bitch anymore which is what has led us to like a lot of the conflict that we have right now with china so listen to this global wealth surges as china

overtakes u.s to grab top spot according to Bloomberg wealth so global wealth tripled over the last two decades with china leading the way and overtaking the us for top spots worldwide that's one the takeaways from a new report by the research arm of the consultants minkin company so the national balance sheets of 10 countries represent 1 and 60 percent of the world income so their economic boom after uh i'd say 97 when hong kong became a better part of china and they used it to trade with the rest of the world yeah well yeah that was when they reopened like yeah because it wasn't just in hong kong but just like shenzhen shanghai they were finally allowed to trade again and like become capitalist. Like now, it's

technically a communist country, but when you go there, you're like, this seems like the most capitalistic place ever. That's what I think is a communist country. And they call it, yeah, they call it capitalism with Chinese characteristics or something like that. It's called Consultative Leninism was one of their tenants. So basically they're like

they're like communism, but they're a little more decentralized. And so it's not just one group making all the choices. There's a couple more local sort of CCP arms. Yeah. Well, it's like with Jack Ma like he ran the largest company in China and he was like allowed to just run it like you would run a company here but then the moment he says something bad about the government then

the government's like you know we can just take this company away from you and you really can't do a thing about it so you're allowed to run your own company in China but you just you want to stay on the government's goods set um you want to talk about the boxer rebellion donnie and I talked a little bit about this over the weekend the Taiping rebellion I believe Yeah, so this was the second most violent conflict in human history. And like, no one has heard of it. I assume, have you guys ever heard of the Taiping? I've heard of what, what did you say?

Rebells or rebellion. Yeah, I've heard that, but I've never looked into. I've only heard it. So the Taiping rebellion was during the Qing Dynasty. I don't know the exact dates. I think it was the 1800s, maybe. And this one dude starts to claim that he has these visions. And the visions tell him that he's.

the younger brother of Jesus Christ. Okay. And he's like, I talked to God. God told me there's too many demon worshippers in China. It's like Waco, but in China. Yes. I know a few guys like this actually. And there were a lot of like unhappy, unemployed peasants at the time

because like the country had just grown so much. He ended up building up a following claiming like, hey, the younger brother of Jesus Christ, I'm going to create the heavenly kingdom of China. And it turned into like a Christian religious country. And he got a huge following and they just went to war with the government. And to this day, it's the most violent conflict in human history besides World War II. Oh, because one guy had some visions?

Yeah, it's like, how does he get such a big following? We were talking about testing. In China, you have to take a test for everything. And to get a job in the government, you have to take a test. And apparently he failed that test five times. and because of that he's like all right well i'm going to conveniently have a vision that i'm fucking jesus christ it's like jordan getting cut from his high school basketball i'll show you yeah this boxer rebellion though is also pretty interesting yeah that was with like the u.s was involved

yeah too right i didn't even know this like i've heard about it but i didn't know there was actually like literal boxers a legion of like fisticoff's boxers oh what yeah i had i didn't know it was related They call themselves the righteous and harmonious fists. Ooh. Yeah. And that's how it got its name as the boxer rebellion. Yeah. Well,

how come no one, whoever has visions is that were like, yeah, I had these crazy visions. They told me to go to Chick-fil-A for lunch. It's always like I'm Jesus's brother. I have those visions. I don't think you need a vision to tell you.

But like, if I had a vision and it's like, it's like peaceful as fuck. It's always like random. Yeah, well, he was like, I'm going to turn China peace. but first I just need to take down the government. Yeah, in a peaceful way.

Buddha was peaceful, though. He was. Yeah, very peaceful. You guys think that this podcast is going to be available on any service in China? Nope. Surprisingly, there's just not a lot of podcasts in China, like even like unrelated. Like, I'm okay with that, actually. Yeah.

I don't know why. They never got big in China. Yeah, something about China that I've read about is that the national conscious. like for example we have access to tons of different you know media too much too much exactly they have so little and it's so concentrated that your average you know chinese citizen is fed they can control exactly what they know and they're fed and what they sort of believe so how do you regulate something like the internet just like on a technical level so hard you need a VPN to uh yeah that's what i needed in china to use like most of the internet because they have their own chinese

version of YouTube, their own like Chinese version of Twitter called Weibo and all that stuff. But if I didn't have a VPN, I couldn't use Gmail, YouTube. So what is a VPN? This is not my bag either. What is a VPN? A VPN, it makes your computer look like it's somewhere else. So I could turn on the VPN in China and it could look like I was using the internet from the U.S.

Is that shit legal? Yeah, they were actually a sponsor on part of my take. Express VPN. It's a virtual private network. You don't shoot me a VPN, bro. What you can do is, like, you know, have you ever been overseas and they got different Netflix overseas? Yeah. You can use a VPN to log in to, like, British Netflix here in America and be like.

And watch the shows over there. I got peekie blinders two weeks early. I can't. The British accent, it fucks with me. Yeah, you got to watch that with subtitles on. No, it's just like, it can't. No, you don't like, you just don't like the sound. That's a high part, you don't.

I don't got a problem with the people. No. Well, also, it's confusing because there's like 20 different accents in the UK. I love the Liverpoolian accent with, like, Patty the Baddy, but that I don't like the posh, like, London accent all the time. They probably feel that. I know they definitely feel that about this, though, for sure. For sure.

Like, I just, they just talk for, you know what I'm saying? Where you just like, they just talk, fight. And that's hell of, that's how they sure do. Like, I understand that. That is a very ignorant thing. I have no, like, if we have a conversation, it'll probably be dope. If you ask somebody from England, do an impression of American accent, it's shit.

Which one do you think they usually start with? The Cowboys. It's either a cowboy. Southern. Or it's. Or it's like, Los Angeles. I will say, yeah, dude. Yeah, like a shit.

British actors. It's so cool, man. British actors can speak English. Oh, my God. Way better than American people can do British. Like a dope actor that they had killed a movie. And then you see them in an interview, like, how the fuck? Wow.

Well, they're cheaper. Is that why foreign labor? Yeah, no, seriously. We outsource it. They're like, we can't get Will Smith, but we can get Idraselba. Yeah. No, the new Star Wars movies. You know what I'm saying?

All their actors are foreign. And they just cheaper. I don't know. They did that for money? Yeah. I mean, I think like people from the, they're known as just very good actors.

Yeah. Daniel Craig doesn't like cost. I'm going to be honest. I totally heard that for my mom. I have no idea. Yeah. For sure. We got to the bottom of that real quick.

You're a fucking track. No, but I can be slaying these opinions, though. I think the UK just has really good actors. Who's buddy from like the prestige and Batman? Christian Bill. Yeah. I know it's Welsh.

so it's not technically England but like there's no way he's like I'm foreign so I'm taking a pay cut right not a chance right yeah and don't and isn't the pound worth more yeah I mean they even had George Clooney as bad that actually sounds like big cap bill oh no it's not big cap there's three there's three reasons why um it was why do a website what website are you on right now the original star wars also had British people in it too right carry Ricky who's a film critic and worked with the Philadelphia Enquirer since 1986. Oh, very good. She watches 500 films annually, so she's very well to know it.

Jeffty Lowe in here. So three reasons. Generally, British actors are stage trained, learn their craft first in theater in contrast to many American actors. That makes sense. That makes sense. Whose apprenticeship are in daytime dramas or Disney shows. Generally, the Brits don't demand the pay scales of American actors.

And generally, the Brits are more likely than American stars, actors to serve the role rather than the career. Okay. So they come from like a Shakespearean. They do it for the love of the art for. Yeah. Yeah. They're much better.

And when they start out, they might not ask for as much money. You know what? I think the best job that I've ever seen in terms of nailing an American accent, especially considering it's from a foreigner, was Kate Winslet doing Mayor of East Town, where she put on the Philadelphia accent. Like, they can learn regional accents. Eder Sal was another one when he did The Wire. He was doing a Baltimore accent.

He was doing the least Baltimore accent of every. on that show though that's true that's guys I got so this proves my point 100% Samuel Jackson claims black British actors are cast because they're cheaper than US counterparts That's coming from Samuel You're talking about the highest grossing actor of all time

Yeah so I But he's everybody's cheaper than Yeah everyone's cheaper than him So yeah Daniel Kaluja Kaluya Yeah yeah that's He's a Star Wars guy Is fucking

He he He threw them out with his accent That shit He's not gonna He's the guy in Get Out, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I'm blacking on his name. Daniel Boyega?

No, I'm thinking of the other. That's a Star Wars guy. He's not a Star Wars guy. He's not a Star Wars guy. John Boyega. No, I know. John Boyega. John Boyega.

John Boyega is in Star Wars. Yeah, it turns out there's a real rive, like American actors really don't like British actors. Oh, I'm sure British actors don't like American actors. Like, I'm sure. Fuck them there. South Park. They're taking her jazz. They are.

What's the one that, like, caught you most off? Guard. Mine was the main guy in Walking Dead being British. That threw me for fucking loose. I didn't see that one coming at all. Doing it was like, girl. Yeah. He's British. I didn't know that. Yeah. Recently, Tom. Tom Wamsgans. Were you to say that? Well, Tom from Succession? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. He's British. I'm so shit with names. No way. Tom Wombscans. Because when the pilots, to produce so many pilots and not knowing which shows are going to take off. They're all British show. Cheap. Yeah. Pretty much. Just like. pretty much everyone in succession is British That's great

Yeah, isn't Shiv Is she British? Yeah, yeah, I remember hearing her talk You know, I recant I do like British accents Because black mirror was filled with a lot of that shit Yeah, and I love it. So I take it back.

I think it's just rap, British rap. There's the new British stuff It's just hard for me to My man's was listening to it Yo girl, it's an uckers Yeah, bro So it's like, I don't know man Maybe just where I'm from

But my man's was like because we was making fun of it and he was like, he was like, yo, watch you on the street. Somebody says something like that and my dude said, my dude said,

y'all got street, you got cobblestone. No, you know what they say? They say, it's a street, it's road. Yeah,

it's like, I'm from the road. Yeah, it's like, I'm from the road. I'm sure that are, you know, struggles everywhere,

but it just, it just don't, I don't feel like, you got to get my fault. We got to introduce you to troops because Troops is a guy from London, and he's from the road.

And he'll tell you all about the road No, I'm positive. There's poverty everywhere and there's drug sales everywhere and there's conflict everywhere. It seems nicer in your mind because it's in English. Yeah, it just don't feel like I'm sure somebody could give me the business. Actually, your mom don't know my mom. Stop telling you're my cousin. That's Big Shaq.

Big Shaq. Big Shaq. It's actually a comedian. He's not a real rap. This is what it is. I just figured out what it was. Like, a big part of like the street culture is like wolfing. So meaning like shit talking.

And so, like, you kind of like getting, there's nothing that they say that is intimidating. And it's like, it's just, I laugh at it. And so it's not like a disrespect. It's just like, oh, it's disrespectful. You fucking. It's not, it's not intimidating, I guess. Knife violence, I much rather get shot than stabbed with a Stanley knife. Nah.

A stabbing. No. Are you kidding? A stabbing just so much more personal than two. I would hate to get stabbed. It's all knife violence. Like, you have guys coming out with machetes and stuff. But you have a gut gun.

You got a better chance. Yeah, there's different guns out there. But I'm saying you have a better chance of survival with a knife than a gun. But this, I mean, one, I get in this debate a lot, how I'd rather be shot. Why are you in this debate frequently? Because, again, these discussions. Anyway, getting shot. That's an answer.

That's not a reason. Because this is what they're calling. Getting shot way, way more sterile, way more sterile to get shot. The bolts hot, goes in. Like, basically heals you as you get shot. Yeah, burns. It cauterizes the wound. exactly it's healthy to get shot we should all get shot at least once you don't know where

that knife's been like no seriously so uh so china's biggest terrorist attack just want to talk about because there's like no guns in china so the biggest terrorist attack i think in the last 50 years where 30 people ran into a subway station with machetes and they and they killed like 35 people it's like i would almost prefer just to get blown up and like a bus bomb then Yeah. Get hacked to death by a shed. But I mean, obviously, no terrorist attack is like a better terrorist attack. Agreed.

Yeah. But getting chopped up? Yeah, I would hate that. Yeah. I'd much rather get shot. All right. Here's the question. Billy.

Just have a better chance of survival. Billy, would you rather get shot in your head and killed or stabbed five times in your stomach and survive? Bro, the thing is if you get stabbed five times in your stomach, that means they turn up your bowels. And you have to live with. I'm going to tell you something. I might pick shot in the head. Yeah. Dude, if you shoot me in the head and like, like, there's tons of.

the people who get shot in the house surviving right now what the fuck you're talking about what should have like a would you rather live with some terrible I would rather have the opportunity to know I'm in a fight before I'm just dead

yeah I could get shot from like a mile away you could just get somebody just walk by and got me you out of there rather than I'm about to stab you fam and now we can tuss no that's not how they fight

they're coming out with stamina this is not fucking heaven you get to dip tape the murder the murder rate was higher in London than New York about I think it started three or four years ago

for the first time ever. Okay. And I think we have we've surpassed that. Do we have to get out of this room, Avery? We have 25 minutes. Okay, perfect. Brandon said he just do the show behind us while we kept talking.

I know this sounds crazy, but I much rather get shot. My thing, though, when you're talking about it, if we're talking about surviving either, I'd much rather survive with fucked up bowels and a bullet that went through my brain. Yeah, I can't think correctly. You be the man if you got shot and survived, though.

But if I can't. I mean, yeah, like 50 cents really milked it for as much as you can worth getting shot. That's like, you get way more street grap for sure. I was in a dinner one time and French Montana came to the table and we were just like respect, like, get this man a seat, please. Oh, he got shot? Yeah, I think he got shot in the head. You know who I respect the most is young Dolph who got shot a hundred times didn't get hit once. That's who I respect.

Not. So then you haven't been shot. You've been shot at. How can you get shot and not get shot? He's in a car. Oh, he got shot at. A hundred times. How the fuck do you miss a whole hundred shots

How the fuck you miss a whole hundred shots And then several And then several months later He actually did get shot I was gonna say I thought I heard of He did get shot in the arm coming out of a juicery In L.A. It wasn't quite as hard as getting shot

And just kind of like looking up from his talk That was an episode of the Sopranos Where that one guy got shot And he went to the hospital And then Bobby was like Hey to his buddy like I know you I know your friend's getting all the street correct Because he got shot

I'll hit you in the meaty part of the thigh I won't tell you when it's coming Then this dude gets shot in his ass And yeah, album sales blow up I feel like it is good for street crime And Cameron got shot and drove himself to the hospital Yeah, it's pretty impressive John Lennon got shot and died

That's out days of Dizus That's a wild story Cameron John Lennon Yeah oh yeah Like dude loves you so much He kills you Like

And then like one of He's in that picture That every picture where Cah standing right behind him Yeah Like, he had met him the day before, I think. Oh, really? Yeah, so he was going to do it the day before, but he lost his nerve.

And then he went back. He's like, fuck it. I got to shoot John Lennon. Yeah, he's like, guys. That scares the shit out of me. Nobody's going to shoot you. You are not John Lennon. I know, that's what I'm saying.

But, like, still, like, you know. Yes, anybody could get got, but you're way less in the spotlight than John Lennon was. A couple of people, a couple of people dress up as Billy for Halloween and he's, uh, he's, uh, I'm the Beatles. But it doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Like his... The guy who killed John Lennon, like, read to fucking catch in the rye.

And then who's just like John Lennon. Like some dude could be like, yo, like... Billy football. That's how we get a job of basketball. I think you're going to kill. I take Billy out of the equation. Billy does want to kill me. I think Billy...

I think you want to kill a producer. So wait. Look how flesh you're getting in your face. How do you feel like... You scared of shit. For this gun... For this England and New York violence. Like, that was a brink.

British guy who got shot in New York. How does that fall into your little web? So a British guy gets shot in New York. John Lennon. Right. Do you think he was like... He thought you were just laying out this scenario. Yeah, I know.

Like, okay, so there's a British guy. Okay, tell me more. I wish I could have gotten stabbed on my home town. Shooter reads, catcher in a rye. Okay, keep going. So this is actually... I'm with you. Locked up.

A debate that I've had before is at what point do you get assassinated and it's no longer a murder. Like John Lennon, you could say, He got, did he get assassinated? He got assassinated. So at what point? Billy would just get murdered. Yeah.

If Billy killed me, that would be an assassination. I think, I like me regicide. That's a good. Billy gets murdered. PFT gets assassinated. Yeah, I think you get assassinated. Maybe. Depends if it's like a former fan of you.

I think I'm right at the border. I'm way below assassinate. I could get assassinated. More than likely just murdered. If it was a guy that had you on his fantasy team. I'm best assassination. Yeah, that's assassination. He's like how your hamstring feel now.

Big T, I would say actually assassinated. Really? I think I'm more of just like body. No, you would get assassinated. Was too, so wait, wait. Nondescript man. John Do you? Was Biggie assassinated?

Yes. Yes. Yeah. What do you mean? Antifa would probably assassinate Big T. That's fair. They love that too. I'm saying it's not, it's not.

No, I'm on their list. I'm on their list. Oh, yeah. I don't think anyone would like try to kill me because like, you had sex with a woman? No No, but it's just Have you had sex with the woman?

It's weird that you don't know No, they have you had sex with the question Never Look, he's so scared of these people That's weird Portnoy is probably the most polarizing person At the company He's never even been punched in the face

You know, I think But Nate, but Nate got pie Nate did get pied Nate got pied Yeah, Nate did get pied Yeah I feel like there's a big, it really matters I would rather get shot than pied

Yeah You know I'm gonna look at this Pied Bill Gates is going to feel bad for you if you get pied. Avery, Matt Dogg, what do you guys feel about the difference? Where is the line drawn between assassination and murder? I feel like it's got to be in a public place. Like assassination, like JFK, he was in public place. I don't know.

I think it would still be considered a murder if it was just like in... Like, if I got shot in here or someone famous got shot in here, I feel like it would just be a murder. But if it was like out on 7th Avenue, it's assassination. So it is a very arbitrary distinction. You're right. So the assassination, the dictionary app that I have, because I love words, it says the premeditated act of killing someone suddenly or secretively, especially a prominent person. So it's not really distinctive. It's kind of arbitrary.

It's the subjectivity of prominence. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like. Maybe, Billy, if you get murdered, the guy thinks he's assassinating. you but to everybody else you just got murdered like I got shot it's like it's not even about people knowing

it's not like a like a fame thing it's just like I'm on a podcast someone could be like sketched out and be like yo that guy fuck him I feel like if you're not on the logo of the podcast you can't be a satt like those are the only two that can get a sass thing I'm just saying in general that would suck if you like went

through all the trouble to plan out your assassination assassinated the dude and then they were like on the news it was just like oh this person got murdered Like, you'd feel like, wow, I really I thought it was doing. So, wait, it's a, it's a, a murder is considered assassination if money was paid

or if it was done for political reasons. Oh, like a natural assassin. Yeah, or if it's not necessarily true. Or done for political reasons. Now you've got to get into the definition. Well, I think, which is a very broad term. Murder with premeditated, like, what's the different types of murder? There's, it's, it's a third degree, right?

Manslaughter. Well, no, manslaughter is a different charge. It sounds is the toughest stuff. It's not murder. It's like you can kill somebody without malicious intent. Most states have like first, second, third degree murder. Then there's manslaughter. Did Scott Peterson assassinate or murder his wife?

Well, likely neither. He was charged, I believe, with first degree murder. I also think that if you screw on a giant silencer to a rifle before you do it, that's an assassination. No matter who you kill him. Yeah, no matter who. Okay, so first degree murder needs a specific intent to kill premeditation or deliberate. so I feel like assassination has to be first degree murder so yeah all all assassinations are murders but not all murders are assassinations do you get a higher charge like if you did so for

example does uh jfk's shooter did he get a higher charge than just regular murder well he got killed he got murdered right but he got he got assassinated did lee harvey oswald get assassinated or murdered yes he was a public figure at that point jack ruby was 100% an assassin for the mob okay yeah they're just they're just tying up loose ends there Jeffrey Epstein and the I argue that well he killed likely yeah likely assassinated ain't no way that dude Hillary Clinton oh well she she's going on trial soon who Jillane just Maxwell he the woman who like would like second in command yeah word like just got she's how we not done the Epstein episodes well I wouldn't I want to wait I wanted to wait till I don't know

about it but I just I did read a little bit about the his his his his murder or I mean his suicide fuck out of here ain't no way he goes he was on suicide watch dog bro there was his cellmate was this cop from Briarcliff

New York he's just this roided up dude who's his cellmate who's like 100% a hit man just like 100% you could look at what what was Jeffrey Epstein doing

with a cellmate that's a big question that's kind of wild I think he was hired to protect him and he switched sides I don't think there's any side switch switch and I think he did exactly what he was sent to me where's he had now

where's buddy at now he's still there because if he because if he's out he's a former cop and he's out of and he's out of the country I would say you had a point but if he's still in a can no no he was a former cop dirty westchester ex cop is epstein cellmate yeah dude this guy he he this police officer's sort of from where I went to high school oh oh boy so yeah look at this guy this like roided up guido former cop watch the g word bill that's not this is the guy that's going to kill you I don't know that's like I'm Italian I'll let him say Guido

Is Guido a pejorative? I don't even know I think it's a pejorative term But there's so much pride It's not as bad as the other G word Guinea Guinea's fine What is the Guinea?

I guess that's another word for Italian Yeah Oh I haven't even heard that word I guess I'm just not about Round of that I tiles That guy He touches the road

Yeah Oh you would hear He touched the shagged Yeah Fire No trial day All right, we got to bleep out his name because now Billy's implicated him

as being an assassin. He calls it 100% an assassin's what he said. Yeah, he says 100%. Can you bleep out his name, Avery? Royed it out. Yeah. Okay. Just trying to look after you here, Billy.

The dude in China, Boshi Lai, a lot of people thought he was going to be the next chairman of China. But then, like, it came out, he had this British dude poisoned because the British dude was going to rat him out about some of his, like, shady business practices. So him and his wife poisoned.

him in his hotel room and then like when it came out they like got the cops to say that he died from alcohol poisoning but then like the guy's family was like he doesn't drink alcohol something sounds fishy came out that he had him poisoned now that

dude is in jail for life out in China Jesus Christ so that was like he was going to be the next chairman it would be like if Joe Biden like was found poisoning someone right before the election pretty crazy that would actually be fire How about Joe?

Yeah, we spice these shit. Finally, like, this is one thing I don't understand about Big T's worldview necessarily is at the same time, the Democrats can be the most incompetent people on the planet, but also Hillary Clinton has murdered a dozen people. Okay, first of all, don't ascribe that to me. I've never said that. That's ridiculous. Secondly, they try to do a lot of shit and they consistently fail. Okay, so they're just the most incompetent bad guys. They're the most bumbling criminals ever.

No, they have a lot of. I agree that they're in their ranks who are doing a great job right now. I agree that they also have a lot who are really stupid. And but most of the stupid ones are the forward facing ones that they put out there to make you think they're stupid and they're lurking in the shadows. Okay, who are the who are the ones who are good at being creepy? Hold on before you answer that. I think you'll find a lot of common ground with far left people, dog. Far left people fucking hate Democrats.

True. I am one of those. I think Big T might be really far left. You go so far right. It just comes back. The spectrum is a circle You should follow this dog There's this account on Twitter called

Accidentally Right Based accidentally based I've seen some of that shit is Because like some of the takes are so Outrageously right that Yeah yeah It's fucking hilarious But go ahead

Answer your question my bet You said which ones are what? Which ones are the ones that you're afraid of? Which ones are the Democrats that are very good at being Like violent and sneaky? I don't think you know the names of any of the ones That you should be afraid of Oh, so you don't know the names either.

Correct. Anthony Wiener? Anthony Wiener criminal master. A lot of people. See, that's the thing about Democrats. Like, most Democrats are just, they can't govern. Like, so Biden and Pelosi and those people have enough power that you should, in theory, be afraid of them. They just don't know what to do with it.

Why would you be afraid of Joe Biden when he's crapping himself in front of. Well, first, again, he has enough power that theoretically. Who controls him? Joe Biden, Billy. Who tells him to pick what report? Kamala? Do you think so? Who tells him?

No, he's been squeezing her out. Do you not read that report from CNN? You should go look into that. No, she's on the outs right now. So you fake news. She's on the outs. Well, no, you know when CNN's criticizing the Democrats that shit's bad. Either that or there's like four people that made a coordinated attack on somebody in the press

and reached out to CNN. They're like, hey, we're pissed off at Kamala. We're all going to go talk to CNN to put the pressure on her. Well, no, it's her that's pissed off. You think she, no, I think people are pissed off. stuff at her so they're leaking all this stuff to CNN to no no the story is that she's upset that biden is not like she's not being a part of shit oh well i mean you're she's being the terry squeeze out if if you're if watch that word got to believe that watch the t word you know i'm a rider no i don't

give what's the terry squeeze out it's a we have we have a guy here he's not have a long enough time he's talked he's tucked his tail so hard now that he has to actually walk around the office and see everybody. He's tucked his fucking tail. No, I'm saying. That's what you've renamed him? No, that's his real name.

Bleep that. Oh, yeah. No. His name is. Inside joke. He tucks his tail. He walks past me in the hallway, doesn't look me in the eyes.

He's a bitch. What? Are you swung on him? That sound like real beef over here. No, he's just. No, he's like the biggest loser. Anytime, anytime you call somebody a bitch.

That's beef, dog. I ain't called. And it's on site. You just caught him a bitch. I called him. I said he's just tucked stale. That's just like, It's sub-submissive, like, like, he's not an alpha.

No, he knows his place in the pack is, like, low. So, yeah, sounds like you did. Your place is low, and he's, he doesn't respect you. No, no, no, no, it's like a cowering. No, oh, he's a cowards. Like, the tail is tough. I disavow. Aaron, we could have a nine-hour podcast.

Matt was not scratch the surface. I have to be sick. On the history of his beast or whatever. All I'm saying, he's in the office right now? Yeah, I'm disavowing with, I saw him just leave a second to go. I disavow as well. I disavowed everything these two guys. Why are so afraid of them?

I'm on his side. You guys are acting out of fear. No, I like RICO. You just point at things and say fear. You're the one who's afraid to say you've had sex with a girl because of people on your computer. That's different, man. That's right.

That's different. I like Rico. Look how red he gets. It really is fascinating how scared these motherfuckers you are. PFT. How red I get? I just get red natural. Breaking news.

Oh, breaking news. What's up? The Packers released. Eric Bordles. Fuck that. Big Bordels. Packers are cursed. Wow.

Done. I'm out on the Packers. That's bullshit. So basically what they did was they signed Blake Bortles to get the Seattle Seahawks playbook. And they also, they needed a well, it's a well calculated. That happens a lot. They needed, I don't care that Blake never played a snap for the Seattle Cahawks. They never technically was on the team.

They used Blake. Also, they probably just used him to be a scout team version of Russell Wilson because he's the closest and talent that you can get. to what my man Russ is doing out there. So, yeah, they use curse, a curse, a pox. As an owner of the Green Bay Packers, I'm disgusted with the team. In fact, I just saw that they're selling 300,000 shares of new Packers stock tomorrow morning. Short it. I'm thinking about short it.

I'm thinking about putting some options against the Green Bay Packers stock. I think that shit's going to tank tomorrow and well-deserved. You don't get rid of the boat without suffering the consequences. Imagine thinking the Seahawks have a playbook. Yeah, it's just hand the ball off They don't even have that one Hand the ball off punt on fourth and one That's all they have

You see Pete Carroll throwing the challenge flag yesterday What was that? It was a hand warmer Was it? Yeah, it was an electric hand warmer It looked like one of those Amazon echoes That you have in your house That you just like yell at

It looked like a portable Wi-Fi hot spot Yeah It was ridiculous You couldn't find his flags You could just throw whatever you have in your pocket And I guess they'd just give you a challenge I like Pete Carol You do?

Yes, good guy. He's a... With my dealing with him. I would like to have Pete Carroll on this show, actually. That'd be elected. This show specifically. Yeah, for the 9-11 episode. A thousand percent.

But he's 9-11 truth. So what... At one point, he had one of the major generals that was in charge of synccom. I'm probably messing up some of the details in this. But I think the guy was in charge of synchcom and some of the responses to any threat against America, like controlling the Air Force and scrambling jets and all that stuff. To this day? Yeah.

Yeah, so, well, Pete Carroll had one of those generals out to speak to his team during training camp to, like, talk to them about the importance of leadership. And then Pete was like, hey, coming to my office for a little bit, sat him down and then was asking him all these questions. Like, how do you know that there was actually a plane that hit the Pentagon? Like grilled him on it. So he's, Pete Carroll is very intellectually curious about the events surrounding 9-11. So he could still be agnostic about it. He could be. What are your dealings of Pete Carroll?

one time we played him in 2013 and he came up to me it's really rare when head coach head coaches kind of get this um i get diva vibes from a lot of them uh so he comes up to me because i went to high school in san diego and so um and this one they had reggie and lindale and that day was they had the whole dynasty down there and he came up to me and i had never spoken to him in my life he goes how the fuck did we miss you i was like so he was like yeah down in san die how the fuck did we miss you and i was it makes you feel good and i'm like it makes you feel good and i'm as a player like and we just chopped it up for like 10 15 minutes on the field he seems like a good guy yeah i think that piquero seems like it it's no wonder that most of his players like playing

for him yeah i just think that he's not a very good coach in terms of like strategy um he's he's had great quarterback luck i don't know man um he's had a great defense before that was not his doing at all no that was quinn he had dan quinn he had darrell bevel i don't even know is he Gus Bradley. Is he an offensive coach or a defense? He's supposed to be. Yeah, so he's always had these good defensive coordinators who, by the way, he's got a type. He has a major type.

It's like if you are a bald, white dude with a goatee, you're my defense coordinator. Now, I actually think the coordinator is a black guy up there right now. I've got to look up who it is. But for like a good 10-year span, it was just a cycle of different bald dudes with goatees that he had as his court. Can't speak to that from my experiences with him. he's been he hell of cool dudes that I know how to play for him say he's like a player coach he's all about competition that would probably piss me off I play for him like if I'm if I got a certain tenure in the league I'm not trying to compete I'll just you know

me but where else were you looking at going to college uh my number two was Oregon at the time I was going to go to Oregon or Tennessee yeah you're going to put up some yards at Oregon probably and you'd have just Jordans for life I wish I went to high school in San Diego I feel like that's the best that's the best place in the country can't tackle me goddain you're probably right and you're not wrong about that yeah San Diego is so gorgeous dog um it's like a it's like for whatever reason it's like a really good kept secret because you know you hear about L.A and L.A. is just not San Diego. L.A., I'll tell you like this. From like small town to L.A., San Diego's like this beautiful middle ground to where it's like

you still get that city feel but it's not like overwhelming like L.A. where there's all kinds people. And there's just beautiful fog every morning that comes like off the coast. It's just, and then it clears up in the sun. It's just beautiful. San Diego was amazing. Yeah,

I think that would be great. Carnia'sada fries. Yes. Carnia side of fries. If you ever seen any of go to any taco shop, carnia side of fries. Interesting. Great fish tacos there too.

Yeah. I'm craving Mexican food. You're not craving Chinese food after all this talk? That's cold for a woman. He's craving a Mexican woman. In sales, he's cheating on, y'all. Billy's like, I want pizza.

An Italian woman. Cheese pizza. New York. Just no. I crack the, anytime Billy talks about food on the podcast, he's talking to his shorties. No. You remember Pizza Gate? Big Tea?

Yes. Right there was a prime example of the fact, like, they actually thought that Hillary Clinton and John Podesta had like. Nobody actually thought. That's not true. There's a. There's a fucking. To this day. An infinitesimal percentage of people legitimately thought that was real.

I mean, these people were just in. Dallas not last like not two weeks ago i looked i looked into it and it is fucking hilarious it is it is wild but the only merit i'll give oh is that there was tons of charges to government accounts for pete like for uh like basically pizza and food uh what's the word they bought catering like catering they bought food that was just no but like a hundred thousand dollars worth of pizza yeah if you're putting how much was that macdonald's bill for clompson If you're having a shitload of events on a campaign trail. No, but for one event.

What a zinger. I don't know if I have not looked into the charges. It's just like they were definitely writing off other stuff like that we don't. It could be something like is ridiculous. It doesn't have to be something weird, but like they're definitely using. I'm down for a pizza game episode. It's probably definitely like explainable. It's like, yeah, we need some cash on hand to, you know, do something else.

I'm pretty sure if they were buying, if they were buying kids. I'm not saying that, but include that. on their itemized. But on their term sheets. We'll just change it to a different word. I'm not saying it was kids. I'm not saying it was kids, but they were definitely using the money

for something that wasn't pizza. That's fair. That happens all the time and like everywhere. But the leap to children is. It's a big way. Kind of weird. But I'm not saying that's what they were doing. I'll be honest.

I just watched the documentary. I've done no subsequent research on it. And it was just the logical leaps that they make, there's obvious flaws in it. But it would be fun to just dig into if y'all are down. I would like to do it. Have you ever looked at as any

Post? I don't know if it's still happening But it was happening a lot especially last year Anytime Tom Hanks or like a really big celebrity Posted on Instagram All of the comments were just about Why do you keep fucking kids like every comment So infantismal I can't agree No yeah that's another thing is it's it's always this like big elaborate ring

You know like this big ring and it's like the Democrats and celebrities You know what's yeah and that I just don't understand Man, like why, where did it, like, what's the, you know what's the weird? And then Matt Gates, just didn't he just get. Gates. Yeah. There's, uh, he's like literally charged like 17 year old, 17 year old prostitutes and stuff. Yeah.

There is too. He was like real charges. He was the weirdest part about the whole thing. They say that the reason the second, the second season of true detective sucked was because they almost uncovered the whole scandal. So they had to make it, it was getting too realistic and they found too much. Like whoever the guy who wrote it. like, policey or something.

Yeah. Like, did, like, they got in too deep. So that's why the seasons suck because they had to rewrite it because it was going to reveal too much. They made it bad to make people stop watching. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's,

fire planned. I do admire their, their constant devotion to, like, being really creative and weaving the pizza gate conspiracy into anything that's happening in pop culture. When Tom Hanks was on SNL, remember that? Yeah.

At the start of, of COVID, they were like, no, this is fake. He's actually in a prison. but they're allowing him to appear on S&L. And all this stuff is CGI around him. Or like the Titanic in the Q&N stuff, the Titanic's involved.

I love how there's just these random parts that are involved. Yeah, that's the thing about conspiracy theories is there's always like this overarching. We have to reveal it, but in a very secretive way. Like when I went on to the flat earth rabbit hole, every Disney movie referenced that the earth was really flat. Like they had to plant the seeds somehow, some way. They always have to hide it in plain sight For some reason Yeah, the hidden symbols

Will be their downfall Their commitment to giving away all their secrets Like the hubris of like child traffic And then putting it in like an ad It's like in a spy movie I'm stepping at the 50 The boner and Little Mermaid That's real

That's a real thing That's actually a thing Yeah Disney does hide stuff I just don't know that they They do have a lot of sexually explicit shit In their For whatever

I think it's just like an Easter rig Like a funny shit that they did that they didn't think anybody would catch up. Yeah, I think if you're an animator, you're like, I'm going to hide a dick in this movie. Like, it's kind of funny to do that. Yeah. And then it becomes like, well, it turns out that he had 60 children in his basement.

And he was trying to let everybody know without letting him out. And I have 60 children in the basement. So we've relocated. Now we're in the macrodosing studio down the hallway. And want to wrap up, clean up some stuff here on China. Before we do, I want to remind you guys that today's show is brought to you by our great friends over at Three Chi. We love Three Chi. We've got Delta 8 vapes, gummies, tinctures, and oils.

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sponsored quarantine house and then uh government workers went into the lady's house and killed her corgi with a crowbar. So Arian is now 100% pro-China, pro-CCP. Yeah. Don't think they have to use a corgi. It's a dog. It's a type of dog. It's a very cute dog.

It's the queen's dog. It gives a fuck. Also very popular in China. Dogs? Yeah, no, I think now they're kind of saying, like, if you get COVID in China, they will kill your pet. I think that's a thing now. I feel like that's a solid rule.

That's a good way to prevent the spread of China. Not the spread of China. Spread of COVID. When we had. When we had Fauci on part of my take, I served up told him, I was like, I was like, just lie to people and say that it can be spread to dogs and that your dog can die because people, I think, would take more care if they knew that their pets could die than if they knew that they could transmit it to other people.

I mean, shout out to China for that rule, actually, because that will absolutely stop the spread, especially in America. Yeah. If you get COVID, your dog dies, that's a solid reason to, because you. Obviously, we don't give a fuck about other people. But if your dog dies, yeah, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Billy also had a question about the population, right?

I just want to clear one thing up about dogs. I feel like it's a very racist thing for people to be like China eats dogs. There's just one part of China that eats dogs. It's like one city. They have a dog eating festival each year. And there's usually like a bunch of protesters and stuff. But most of China, they treat their dogs just like we do, except they actually like to put clothes on their dog.

I see that a lot. You see that here too. That's cute. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I never tried dog while I was out there. It's not something you, like, see on the menu. Okay. Yeah.

I don't see the difference, actually. So, like, I'm, I'm, like, that's my defense with people is like, why do you hate dogs so much? And I'm like, what did you have for lunch? And I'll be like, chicken. I'm like, I look at chickens. If you compare it to pigs, because I guess pigs are very smart. They're just as smart as dogs. Probably more smarter.

Yeah. More smart. Uh-huh. I think that it just all boils down to how cute it is. That's it. If chickens demonstrate love to people, if people grew up with, like, a chicken that would cuddle with them. Right. If you grew up with a chicken that, like, would go rescue a child that fell down a well, then people would be like, you know what, stop eating chickens. I would argue cats are cuter than dogs, but I would feel like dogs are more popular than cats. Yeah, cats are, you also run into the crazy cat people, though. That's what I'm saying. People, they hoard cats. You don't really hear about people hoard cats. You don't really hear about people hoard. dogs that much. Cats also look like they taste gross, whereas, like, a pig looks like it tastes pretty good. That's because you know a pig tastes good, though. Yeah. Yeah.

To be fair, pigs are delicious. They are amazing. I think, I think bacon's one of the greatest foods of all time. But is that why there's a lot of cultures that don't eat pigs? Is it just because they, like, look kind of gross because then they, like, roll around and their own shit and stuff? They will eat their own kids. They used to carry more diseases before we had much better farming practices.

okay yeah so i think it's all on preparation though as long as you as you cook it you can get rid of pretty much any bacteria i think it had something to with tuberculosis okay i couldn't tell you i don't know enough about people but another question about china for donnie donnie how does you know way western parts of china uh i know you've been to tajikistan i know that's not exactly western china with that area of the world it's just not talked about that much what is your thoughts on what china is doing out there with the Uighur people and what is your experience around that so i used to buy weed off of the weggers in china um and then like all of a sudden my last year there you started seeing like less

and less of them to the point like there used to just be like wagers on certain streets where you like knew you could go to buy weed and then all of a sudden they were gone i know like very little about what's going on there i think like the terrorist attack i was telling i was telling you guys about. I think that kind of like prompted it because that was um the terrorist attack was done by these people called the east Turkmenistan freedom movement which is like um one part of western China wants to be their own country that's also the most Muslim part um and I think after that China was just like because they have no rules to be like they still need to treat everybody with basic rights they just like started to go through to all the Muslim villages and cities out there

just like arrest like everybody, even if they were like not connected to the terrorist attack at all. They were just like, nope, we're just going to, we're just going to crack down on Muslims in general after that. And like in the U.S., like after 9-11, we have like rules. We couldn't just like crack down on Muslims here. Like there has to be proof you. Formally. You did something wrong. Yeah, there was a lot more Islamophobia here. But out there, they were just like, now we're just going to go to a village and arrest everybody in the village. If there was like one person, maybe one person in the village had done something wrong. And what about

Tibet? We haven't talked about freeing Tibet in a while. We used to have concerts for it. The Beastie Boys used to talk about it all the time. Real quick, the Uyghurs, because like I didn't hear any context behind who they were. That's why I was looking at them up. So the Uyghurs are basically just Muslims who live in China.

They who are ethnically Chinese? A lot of them look a little Chinese. Some don't really even look Chinese. It kind of looks like For me, it looks like a mix between, like, an Asian and, like, an Indian mix. That's, I mean, I'm definitely probably typecasting, but at this. Maybe it looks like a mix between a Chinese person and a Russian person, almost. Okay.

I don't know. I mean, I'm sure they all look. They all look different. Because they originate from, what, Central Asia? Yeah, Central Asia, I think. Way out there. Yeah, because, like, when you, as an ignorant American of the geography, I'm just so unaware of, like, the people there. So it's like, when I hear.

Uyghurs, I didn't, I had no idea with the context. I just clarified this. Sorry about that. Muslim food in China is great. They have these Muslim noodle places. Like pretty much, wherever you go in China, you can find a spot serving Muslim nudes. They're hand pulled. It's kind of like a she's, which they have here in New York.

There's like a chain called like She's Famous Foods. Have you ever been there? I haven't been there, no. Oh, they got them all over New York. You got to go. It's like it tastes exactly like the Muslim food out in China. Yeah, I'll give it a shot. What about Tibet? What's going on Tibet now? We haven't talked about the Buddhists out there.

So, yeah, I wasn't hearing much about Tibet when I was out there too. I do know the Chinese government had like a rule where they were encouraging Han Chinese, which are just like the normal Chinese people to move there. And like, hey, if you move out there, we'll hook you up with like a free house and stuff. So now like in Tibet, there's like 20 Han Chinese people per like one Tibetan. And I think that's why they're like having. haven't really been any protests and stuff because they just, like, moved so many Chinese people into that part. Their version of gentrification. Yeah, exactly. So, like, I don't know. I feel like that ship is, like, sailed more than what is going on. Like, they're just like.

What's the backstory behind me? I don't know. I just remember that there used to be Tibetan freedom concerts. Yeah, that was a big thing. I'm still on the free Tibet movement for the record. So when Brad Pitt was in the movie seven years in Tibet, he was banned from China, like, for 10 years just for being in that movie. Damn.

Because it had like it had like a pro Tibet. What an odd like I would love to get banned from China. I want to go before I do. Maybe this podcast will do it. Well yeah. No, it doesn't even matter what country it is. I just think it's pretty metal to be like, hey, I'm banned from an entire country. I mean, I'm not trying to get banned.

I'm trying to go back to China. But yeah. Like the winter Olympics are going to be in Beijing this coming this coming February. Barstool said they would send me. but now they can't because no fans are allowed except for Chinese fans and so I would have to get a press pass and it might be kind of tough to get

what's the protocol do they tell you your band or is it just like when you show up you yeah you get a letter how does that work yeah like how do you get notified maybe you just try to get on a plane and they're like no maybe you apply for a visa and then it comes back your band yeah

that would be cool to be like you're not allowed in country what's up Billy I think they send it to the U.S. Embassy. So they know before you even apply for Visa because I actually knew this girl who like was a huge pro-Tibet activist in high school who like, you know when you like do introduction or stuff in college, she was like two truths in a lie and she was like something, something. I'm banned from China.

Wow. She's pretty badass. Yeah. So when I was out there, I was filming vids. I was doing all sorts of crazy shit, sneaking into places, being publicly intoxicated but like I never got in trouble with the government because like in none of my videos did I really talk about politics and that's kind of like they like a couple rules like don't sell drugs don't say free to bet in a video and yeah I mean I kept I was putting out vids for like four

years I kept on expecting like to get a knock on my door and being like right you got to get the fuck out of this country and it never happened I think just because I never I never talked about politics. So you're soft. The only time the police the only time the police came back is we were doing this like prank video talking to hookers

in China. It was a joke. It was a joke. Just being like, hey, how much? No. It was a very lame joke. Blow job, the slang for it in China is play the flute.

So we would go ask a prostitute if they could like play the flute. And then they'd be like, yeah, sure, it's going to cost like $100. And then we would take out a real flute and be like okay can you can you show me how to play the flute yeah a really lame joke but then one lady was like yeah follow me and you took us

into a whorehouse and there was just like tons of band half naked hors there and we were like all right well here's the flute can you guys show us and they're like oh fuck you got to go and we put out the video and China like they don't

they like to pretend that they don't have prostitutes and so like someone like a police officer showed up at my friend's house and made us take the video down and like took my friend to the police station and like he almost had to go to jail um yeah and I think

that horror house like was closed down and didn't even get a blowjacked. Oh so you snitched I know I felt very bad damn they were also they were not asking for a lot of money for sure I mean a hundred a hundred US dollars no they were asking for like a hundred R&B which was like $15

what's the going right here for a blow job If you talk to Mantis, it's $7,000. Billy, what's the growing rate for a blowjob? I have no idea. They were probably North Korean women in that. How did you come up with that? Because isn't that a thing? Billy's done some reading.

I've done some sex trafficking. Yeah, there's tons of stuff about they literally ship North Korean women into China. That's why I refuse to do, though. Well, I think if you were North Korean, you would rather be a prostitute in China than just the normal person in North Korea. I don't know about it, but I do know that, like, when you go OT, I just won't go to the, because there's a whole bunch of like, you know, brothels everywhere you go. And there's always people to invite you to them. I would just refuse because I know that there's so much trafficking going on that, like, my conscience would be, there's no way. I do, I do not condone hiring a foreign prostitutes.

Yeah, I think that it should be decentralized. We should normalize just if you're talking to a girl in a bar. She's like, hey, I'll go home with you for $200 bucks. Right. Okay. I'm for being regulated, right? Because I did OT one time, but she was, they give you preferences, right? So my preference is older.

I'm an older. I love older women. And so, but it was just a whole bunch of sketchy shit going on. I don't even know if this can make this podcast, but it was a wild experience that I'm like, yo, I'm never doing that shit again. What's OT mean? Out of town. Yeah.

I once had like a girl walk up to me right when I walked in the bar and she was just, she was all over me, wanted to go home. And I was like, this is too easy. Something's up here. And so like after half hour, I was like, all right, I have to ask because I don't want to take. Something's up. I don't want to take this girl home and then find out afterwards that she was a prostitute and like have to pair.

So I asked one of her friends. well she was also with like a guy who was like watching this and I was like he's probably like the pimp or something and so I like asked him I was like wait is there are these like working girls and he was like oh my god and like ran over and told her and was like this guy thinks you're a prostitute and then she got pissed at me I blew it I think she just liked me for me damn but I fucked it up or he thought you were a cop and he was blowing up a spot yeah you were also telling me that in Hong Kong it was on Sunday that if you go out to a certain district It's all the nannies that are in town

that live there from overseas. Filipinos. Yeah, what is that like? It's just accepted that you go to a bar and there's a bunch of Filipino. Oh, yeah. Like, you go to the bars starting at 9 in the morning. Like, it's the one day of the week

that all the Filipino housemates in Hong Kong have off and they just rage. Like from 9 a.m. to midnight that night, you go to any of the bars in one part of Hong Kong and it's just filled with Filipino maids raging. damn it's fun i did leave on sunday so i did not experience that yeah that was that was the back i mean there's no way you can do hong kong sevens for two days and then go party with housemates absolutely another 12 hours nope nope uh do we have any voicemails or is there anything else that you would

like to ask about china or discuss about china yeah i feel like we've just been uh like as a planet just accepting that there's a billion people in china and no one's been pushing back on that like there's no one in the world accurately counting those people there's just no fucking like so there's probably more than yeah i think it's way more it's either way more or about half like there's no way it's because it's been a billion flat that's what i mean i agree i think it's probably way more but like there's no one who's counting that there's no way that they could do that census like accurately there's just no fucking chance it's not i think it's all of it's an estimation i don't think they I think right now what is the

it's like 7.5 or 8 billion is the going rate right now I don't know man there's a lot of motherfuckers over there though that's what I mean I think it could be like 2 billion I don't it's possible I would guess on the other side actually I would think like China is overestimating really to make people

afraid of them because it's like hey we got all the manpower in the world just tries like you better not I like it well I do know they recently got rid of the one child policy so now you can have more kids and I think it was because there were just like too many old people in China but not enough young people because they've had the one child policy for the last like 50 years or something so now they're like we need more young people to keep the economy going so now you can

have two kids but and I guess people really aren't doing it now they're like no it's it's way too expensive to have two kids I was I'm gonna stick with one it was that a part of the the whole COVID thing too was that the disease was developed by the Chinese government to kill off the old people because there's too many. Oh, yeah. It was going to be too expensive to take care of all them, especially when they all I don't believe that shit, but yeah. It's going to be a lot of lung cancer.

Or who's, or what do you call them? Hoons. Yeah. Hoons, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they smoked the, like, the strongest cigarettes I've had in my life. That's what makes me mad, bro, it's like, you'll see somebody who smoke cigarettes for like 10 years or something and they get cancer and you'll see like this 90 year old who smoked every day since they was fucking 12 and drink a cup of whiskey and like, this is my secret.

I'm like, this is just weird. This whole body shit is weird. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird how COVID-19 is just doing a lot of great for China in all their long-term plans. Billy, I think you're a China COVID-truther. Well, just asking the question. He dabbles. The labli...

Just ask a truther in that it is the truth. A lot of very smart people are now saying the lab leak theory could be true. I don't know enough about it. I'm interested, but... It definitely could be true. Anything could be true. like likely it's looking like i mean the lab in wuhan they were researching bat coronaviruses yeah and that's what ended up being a bat coronavirus john stewart explained it best when he's like

oh there's been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness and hershey pennsylvania wonder where that came from yeah like this just happened to take place where the the coronavirus super secret lab is but i don't think that's the i don't think anybody would argue that that's not possible i think people argue the fact that it was like intentional. Yeah, yeah, true. That's why I feel like it gets nefarious. The whole, it came from the lab. Yeah, probably a thing, maybe.

I don't know enough about it. I don't know shit about viruses. But the intent that we have this devised this plan to depopulate that, I don't think that's a thing. Well, it was either that or, Billy, you weren't the Pangolin theory for a while, right? The Penguin theory? No, so the most trafficked. animal for you know traditional chinese medicine is something called the pangolin which is basically

an african armadillo uh if you look it up it looks like uh the Pokemon sans true um so that what shit it does yeah what a fucking boss so they take their scales and they grind it up and they think that gives you boners oh okay like most of the stuff i like this better than dogs so yeah they say that the pangolin got covid which from a bat in a in a wet market got it got it all right well um if we have nothing else on china coley's got one more thing yeah i think there's one more thing just because it's recent uh and it caught it pissed a lot of people off here and i think it's weird that it pissed people off here uh a movie just came out over in china you know what i'm talking about already the the war movie friends the movies the

movie. Whether or not you saw it. Is that, no, there was a war movie that came out. Do you remember what it's called, Billy? Is it the one with the Americans as the bad guys? Yeah, where they go over and they have like a giant victory over America and they're like, oh, this is Chinese propaganda. I'm shocked you haven't heard of this.

This was like making news over here. Wait, so is it a movie based on a real war? I think it was. Well, when did it ever? I mean, like, China and the U.S. have been like... Allies. Yeah, like World War II,

we had China's back the whole time. The battle at Lake Shenzhen. And so when was it supposed to take place? That part, I haven't... I can't remember... I didn't hear about that. I assumed you had heard about this.

It's been the number one movie in China for like a month. Okay, so it's... The movie depicts the story of Chinese soldiers defeating American troops despite great odds at the Battle of the Chosen Reservoir during the Korean War. Ah, yes, that was the one time we went to war with communist China. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's been pissing people off here. But what? Godzilla. We put out these movies all the time. Yeah. Like, no one here. How dare you chronicle in this history.

Propaganda. Yeah. Like, this is just a historical movie and people in China love it because it. Like there should absolutely be a movie about Vietnam. Definitely. Yes. But it's like, that's not pro-American. I think it's just very funny that people here are just like, how dare.

they right like it's like no we've never lost like it's not propaganda it's just history like people have a real big problem with history yeah so so my grandfather as i mentioned he was in china for a really long time and he kept a very detailed diary about everything that he did while he was there chronically like all the different towns he went to the things that he saw that's fire his life where he like it's actually crazy the stuff that he was he was getting in and out of like he should be long dead i think the japanese had like a a massive bounty on his head as the american that was over there helping him out so yes he would have been assassinated for sure so it happened like 15 20 years ago the government of china wanted to option my grandfather's movie or diary into a movie and so they wanted to

pay us money for it and they were going to have my family like help produce the movie but they wanted to change a lot of the stuff about his life to make it more pro china and more pro specifically the Communist Party of China because he was helping them out some, but he was also helping out the Nationalists. He was basically helping out the Chinese against the Japanese. Didn't matter what party you were from. And so they wanted to change a lot of stuff about what he did over there to make it more pro-CC and pro like, okay, this is an American that realized what a great idea the communists over in China had and wanted to help them out in their battle. And so we declined. We stopped all the pre-production of the movie. What was DeBraid talking about?

The bread wasn't that good To be fair I don't want to make my family out To be like heroes turning down Like 20 million dollars or whatever But they did They like flew my mom over there And my aunt over there

And had them travel around the country To all the sites that he was at And the government was like taking care of them Spending like thousands of dollars On each dinner with them Wining and dying All that shit I wish I'd gone over there for that trip

I feel like you guys fumbled this I think that we might have I think you need to go back To the renegotiation table I'll say right now Communists as you want. Like, make it as pro-communist. I'll say it right now.

If you want to China, if you're listening, if you want to re-engage me in these conversations, I will listen. I will listen to what you have to say. And I am their officially family agent. Yes, yes. Fly me out as well. Absolutely. Yeah, we'll get the whole podcast involved in it for sure.

If you want to give us a tour of China. I'll stay. Thanks. For the right price we can be bargained with. But they definitely did want to change shit and make it into a big communist propaganda movie. Yeah. But then it would be still cool to be like,

I guess my family's being used as Chinese communist propaganda and there's a movie. It's a big flex still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I'm willing to listen to any offers they have. Who made the call I was like, no, we're not going to defile this They did get a free vacation out of it.

Yeah, they got to vacation. It was my family, my dad, my mom, my aunt, and then their close family friend whose parents were also overseas with my grandfather at the time. This guy probably knows the story way better than my own family does because he, I think he was actually in China for a little bit when it was happening. But it was like a big group of us were like, well, you don't think that this really, this

isn't above board. So we're going to back out of this engagement right now. I think they also wanted to change. They wanted to change his background to being a Chinese American that went overseas and was then like falling back in love with their home country because of the glory of the Communist Party. I think that was one of the big sticking part. Easier than getting a white guy to act exactly yeah except for cheaper yeah yeah yeah I don't hate that so we'll see if we'll see if we'll see if that movie ever comes to fruition I don't think that it will but the diary is really interesting have you all ever pitched it to any American film company no no I'm also willing to do that yeah high spitter at this point hey we'll make him Japanese too

if they want to come in this is a big offer this is the actually Japanese were just defending themselves let's uh here's a great synergy uh LeBron has a film production company yeah spring hill suites maybe you guys Yeah, he's kind of pro-China. Mm-hmm. You can kind of find a good middle ground there. We'll make this work, LeBron. Give me call.

You know where to find me. LeBron's just pro-communism in general. Holy shit. I think he's pro-money. I think he likes money for himself. He doesn't want to turn the faucet off. That's what I think it all comes down to. He's a capitalist, like a motherfucker.

How could you say LeBron is a communist? You made tens of millions of dollars playing sports. You're not a capitalist. I am not a capitalist. but I was raised an entirely different household than LeBron. We were politically aware

at a very young age and so I'm not a capitalist. LeBron is a... He, to this day, is making capitalist moves. I am actively working against capitalist moves. I do not believe in private ownership owning the means of production. I don't believe it's healthy.

Anti-capitalist. I know. There we go. All right, let's get some voicemails. Donnie, you have one more thing? Well, I was just going to wrap it up. The one worrying thing is that China doesn't seem to be,

reopening its borders anytime soon so there's not as many westerners out there and like you know they obviously control the narrative when it comes to the media so it's like if like all day on the news they're talking about like how bad the U.S. is and obviously our news isn't very pro-China either that it's like worrisome that it's just going to like get us it's going to get the common people in both countries disliking each other even more and more which the governments are going to be supporting that's what they want yeah yeah and like you could see it you know 10 20 years down the line like leading to an actual conflict so you do you think that's a real probability i don't i don't think i don't think we would ever go to war with them because we're like so connected like we need so

much from china stuff like that how much do they need from us what would they go to war with us yeah it's like i i don't know but i just know it's worrisome because now like when there's not a lot of foreigners in China, they're trying to get rid of most of their Western influence, that it looks like the future isn't better for U.S. China relations. Like as of now, it seems like in five years, their relationship will only be worse as opposed to better. The thing that they do that we fuck up here is they really, for whatever reason, they prioritize like math and science and education way more than we do. Like, I feel like what we prioritize here is entertainment.

Yeah, that's our biggest export. I would say like pop culture is America's biggest. Like, yeah, when it comes to just actual goods, we don't make that much anymore. But just for the record, the Chinese people and the American people have a lot more in common. Yes. They do. They do. It's just the government.

Yes. So I know a lot of people are afraid of China, but the average Chinese person, I think you would get along with their great people. I think it grows across the board. Yeah, the right. Yep. We have so much, you know, overhead beef with other countries that, like, the average, like, you don't give a fuck about them and they don't give a fuck about us in that way to go to wall with people. Mm-hmm. Yep.

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Let's do it. Okay. Hey, what's going on, guys? Stan from Chicago. I had a question, so if you had to get someone's face tattooed on you, who would it be? The fuck. Billy, you don't get an answer. You have to get that frog-brug tattooed across your back.

Love you guys. I have a great one, love the podcast. Quick fun fact that frog drawing is actually an NFT available for you to buy on OpenC. There's some dude going in on me and my Twitter mentions about, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about with NFT. It's more than a screenshot. Try a screenshot on your bank account and ask, like, bro, I don't give a fuck like that. I was just asking how to, like, I don't understand this shit.

Like, it makes no sense to me. It's inflation proof. I don't get NFTs. I just know that people that believe in NFTs. are just cycle about how Bitcoin people. They're like, matter of fact They're the same people. They're the same people. Oh yeah No, they're in both. The Venn diagram.

Yeah, one circle. That makes more sense now because when I said that shit about Bitcoins, I had a whole bunch of Bit bros in my fucking All right, fam, I don't. We can have Jack Mack give us a lesson because he's a crypto bro. Oh yeah, he's really into it. Tommy smokes. Open sea, Billy football. People are bidding on this thing. The grizzly bear

drawing is also up for grabs. On the frog drawing? How much is it up to? What's it going for? $137. This is... Listen, Billy, I hope you get it a million dollars for this. Dude, I'm hoping. But if you are bidding on this...

I don't know if you can zoom in on my face. If you are bidding on this, you're a fucking moron. Oh, it's a better investment than a lot of stuff right now. It is not. It is not. But hey, to each his own, to each his own. And I hope you enjoy your frog screenshot. That's why I love capitalism, Aaron.

If somebody wants to pay $140 for Billy's frog drawing, damn it go for it you know you live your life big tea's getting like teary eyed thinking about it I think it's insane but like go for it he's fucking wow hey I mean look

someone tweeted me last 37 though someone tweeted me some sort of crypto last no not crypto the NFT last night and they were like oh you should get in now the floor is super low it's super affordable and I was just like let me see what like let me just check

it's like $20,000 This is the affordable one? You know who I'm talking about? You know who's into NFTs now? The guy who is the NBA, the GM for the Houston Rockets who called out. Yeah, Mori. Mori's into NFTs. I was looking at his Twitter and try to find his tweet.

He's into NFTs. I just don't get it, man. Some shit's just not formal. I got to talk about this. So Billy posted it on Twitter. He said he's dropping some NFTs. And the top comment is too late I already own it. And someone screenshotsed it.

and made it their own NFT, and they're selling it, too. Oh, I love that. The screenshot is now an NFT. It's not, no, I told them to delete that. Counterfeit that shit. I love it. No, honestly, I, I mean, it's just like, you don't have to, really, I have nothing to lose. Is it legal property?

Like, is that the thing about, like, so can somebody screenshot my NFT? Yeah. Yeah, but that's not the same. But you don't own NFT. The way they explain it is, like, yes, it is, like, baseball cards. Like, you could. have a reprint of a baseball card that's not worth anything. But then if you have a Honus Wagner baseball card, it's worth $2,000.

So it's just, it's just you have this group of people on the playground that's way out there to the left, past the monkey bars, and they just have their own little club and currency. And they're changing each other. It's worth something because people just agree that it is. Which is most thing. Yeah, right. Also, these people have all the Bitcoin money.

So, no, correct. You can't buy it with money. You have to buy it with Bitcoin. Yeah. So I'm just getting the. Bitcoin, like, hold on, is it with Bitcoin or is it another crypto? It's Ethereum, right? Ethereum.

But that's, oh, my God. Which you can only buy with money. I just want to, I just want to, you ever see, you ever see a 40-year-old virgin where Jonah Hill's in the store and he's trying to buy those high hill fish boots? And he's like, I just want to. She's like, yeah, you can't. Like, that's how I feel about NFTs and. I just want to buy shit.

It's actually, you're all making it so difficult. We were talking earlier about what to do for our mini episode this week. Can it just be Aryan and Jack Mack discussing Bitcoin and NFTs? Jack Mac might get thrown through that window That's longer than 20 minutes I'm down for it I'm not down to throw him I'm a nonviolent guy

Also if these NFTs do well I found my Latin notebook With tons of crazy Like I'm talking I'm talking woolly mammoths I'm talking saber tooth tigers Like creatures The Billy fan club

Salivating right now So he was mining NFTs In Latin house Dude if these start to take off I have a whole more unique collectible ones. I can't wait until Billy buys this company. What do you mean if they take off?

Somebody just paid $137 for a little fucking frog. If you're making $100 a pop, you need to sell all of these. I know. Well, the thing is, it was through, so I had to wake up at 4 a.m. to get the cheapest mining price this morning. So it actually cost me $200 to, no, no, to be able to sell them in the beginning. You didn't mention that. Right.

So you're still in the hole. You're in the hole right now. Yeah, you're in the hole right. Right. but since I listed it at $100 each and the bidding stops in a week so people can listen to this and go bid on it if they want to.

Nice plug. I'm going to be putting an NFT on sale too, so bid on mine. What's your NFT? Stevie Mittenz. It's a picture I draw. It's actually a penis, but it looks like a guy wearing snow pants and mittens.

I like it. I mean a snow cap. I'll give you $20 million. Yeah, but. What about can you put pictures of feet? Can you do pictures? I will 100% sell a footpeak NFT. I don't know. I think you're going back out of that one

too. You backed out of the only fans is basically. Yeah, but if you get the, turns out you get the bidding going, these guys are going nuts. These guys are going nuts. If I start to make these guys bid that only one of these foot freaks can get the fucking picture. Don't call them foot frees. Call them. Call them people who have foot fetishes.

Damn. That's what you want to do to your audience. Yeah. You really fucking your consumer robots. Yeah. I'm going to all these freaks. I'm going to get them going. All right, so that dude's question was, um... Yeah, whose face would you get tattooed? Who's face would you get tattooed? Oh, my God.

That's a good question. I don't know. Do they have to be on the show or just any person? No, just any person. Any person. Any person ever. I would probably say two of my favorite human beings ever. One for who he is and one for what he did.

I wouldn't, if I had to do this, Einstein or Cornell West. Not Kobe? No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, not Kobe on the face. What about your children? Uh, no. Wait, is it a face tattoo? I don't know, I don't know how good of humans are going to be.

No, it can be anywhere on your body. I don't know how good of humans are they going to be yet. Like, Cornel West and Einstein did that shit. No, it's just a fan. What if I tattooed my son and he's like an axe murderer? I don't know. It feels like something you can control, no. No, fuck.

Never know. That's the thing about kids is that you could be the best parent in the world. And if they're a piece of shit, they're a piece of shit. They're a piece of shit. It is what is. A. Blankin would be a pretty cool tattoo. Environment versus... Nurture versus environment.

Nature's... That balance. All my kids are amazing as of right now. Deshawn Stevenson had A. Blinken tattoo on his neck. Every now and again, I'll bring up Deshawn Stevens' name. And then somebody would be like, hey, man, you're talking about Lance Stevenson. I'm like, no, it's just two different Stevenson's that had real beef with LeBron James. The two biggest heels to LeBron James, actually three would be...

Deshawn Stevenson, Lance Stevenson, and Big T. Those are the three people he has the most people. I'll keep that company. I was going to say Portnoye, but. I was going to say Delante West. Delante. Do you go and get him tattoo? Oh, you're talking about people?

Oh, yeah. Charlie Reds, I don't hate it. I'm trying to think of a good face. I just had one. Oh, I was thinking of Deshaunton. Deshaunton got that tattoo backwards, much like an ambulance would get ambulance backwards because he thought that's how other people would see it.

Oh, my God. also a great Skip Bayliss take old school Skip Bayliss he said Deshawn Stevenson was going to be the next Michael Jordan did he really yeah I forgot about that draft profile just because he like Skip Baylis loved how much he antagonized LeBron well this was like he was seeing in the matrix like this was well before LeBron was even like conceptualized in Skip's mind damn yeah I don't know getting a getting a tattoo of somebody else's face on your body a lot a lot of people

People do it, though. Well, it's dumb. This is just if we had to. Maybe, like, I don't know, maybe a piece of art. Maybe like the Mona Lisa. But, like, have her, you know, smile a little bit more. Look a nicer. Miley Cyrus?

Yeah, maybe Miley. I was once at the gym in China, and a Chinese guy had Hitler's face tattooed on his shoulder. That's wild. It was wild because, like, Chinese people don't like the Nazis in general. I didn't know if he, like, knew exactly who it was, but very awkward. think you have to know who yeah are you sure he knew that would be such a terrible coincidence it wasn't charlie chaplain no it was it was hiller he was like i was wearing the outfit and everything and then oh he had a swast

i think he noticed me staring at it and then like put on a long sleeve shirt uh but yeah wild there's it there's this picture of like a ruckus somebody in china with um a tattoo that said water in english you know how like you know people here just get like water or love And it's just like, just fuck out of here. All right. Mad Dog, you got anybody? My first answer is Harry Styles, but I feel like, yeah, I'm just going to go with Harry Styles.

Okay. First answer is the easy answer. Who's Harry Styles? What? I said, who's hairstyle? He is, he was in the British pop band One Direction. He is now a solo artist pushing the boundaries of. pop music.

Pushing the boundaries. She paying you for this? I love him. You're reading that straight off. Let me just press release. He's like, he's like, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's, he's, he's, he's a, he's, he's a, he's a, he's, he's a, he's, he's, yeah, he's the one. He's the one that. Oh, okay. I got, I seen this picture of him. Yeah.

He was in a dress on Vogue. Yeah. He's the one that Candice Owen said, bring back. manly men he's that's that's when I can't take people like that suit when that bothers people like I can't take anything you take seriously yeah I'd wear a dress bro what I got to do with you

wear a dress bro yeah I'd go with him he just has to be the face of the person or can I get like a whole person you want to go hard go hard that's what I mean I might get young thug when he was wearing the dress and he looked like when he looked like the fucking tech and character yeah what the fuck was

raiden yeah yeah what was the name of that album I Jeffrey. I think at some point I said, actually, if, so the whole thing going on right now with the Raiders and the NFL and the Washington football team is Mark Davis is pissed off at Roger Goodell because Goodell selectively leaked allegedly those emails from John Gruden, which then got John Gruden fired. So now Mark Davis is suing the NFL to get the rest of them released. I thought Gruden was suing. Yeah, Gruden. Sorry, Gruden is suing the NFL for wrongful termination of his job. Mark Davis is thinking about. filing a lawsuit against the NFL for selectively leaking those. And part of the outcome of that lawsuit would be the rest of the emails would have to get released, in which case I'm sure you could find some shit in there that would get Dan Snyder removed from owning the Washington football team.

I believe I said, as a matter of public record, that if that happened, I would get Mark Davis's face tattooed on my body, which that would be an all-time tattoo. I don't know what Mark Davis looks like. Oh, he's a dude like a big baby, right? Yeah, yeah. It looks like that old mad TV guy. Like a happy baby, like a life-sized David Letterman baby. Yeah.

Yeah, I've seen him. I would get, I think I've said that I would get his face tattoo. Do you have him like eating P.F. Chang's or getting his haircut, maybe, have him doing something? I think it would just be him in that classic, like, sit-down position where he's wearing the white suit. Backpack? Yeah, maybe the backpack. Yeah. I put a backpack on him.

I also have Warrior. I don't know if that counts. Oh, that counts. Yeah. Warriors is a person. He's my friend. Yeah. Absolutely.

What about you, Big T? I would love to do World Series MVP Jorge Saler, but the real answer would be George Washington because I love him very much, but I also think that would be a good conversation piece. Where would you get it?

How would that conversation go? Shoulder like the other guy, maybe? No, the face. He said, tattoo on the face. No, of someone. It's a face tattoo. It can go anywhere on your body, I think. Maybe like thigh. Big T, let's roll play.

Uh-huh. Because you said it'd be a good conversation starter. Right. Hey, what's that tattoo of? Oh, it's George Washington. Oh. Cool. Yeah, no, he was a cool guy.

He did a lot of cool shit. Yeah. Why is your thigh exposed? I don't know. Sir, this is a Denny's, please. No, don't disrespect me like that. I'd never go to fucking Denny's. I'm wearing a Waffle House hoodie right now.

That's fair. I'm with you on the Waffle House thing, too. Yeah. Fire. All right, anybody else? Face tattoos? I thought we were getting it on our face That's embarrassed

Yeah, face tattoo on your face Yeah, you don't need to get Kobe on your face I mean, still I like the corner west Yeah I think an Einstein tattoo would be cool too That's actually cool too, yeah Avery Oh no, I was

I listened to the question wrong I was gonna say like the O'Dell catch But he's like catching my eyeball I thought we had to like get it On your face Right me too I thought that too, yeah What do you think about the whole

The whole O'Dell Beckham situation area What is the hope? So he asked to be released from the Cleveland Browns because he was mad that he wasn't getting enough catches. But he's, he hasn't played well when he's been in Cleveland. He hasn't, he's mad that he's not getting enough targets,

but the Browns are like objectively a better team when Odell is not on the field for them. Minus Sunday, but we're not talking about that. Minus the Sunday, yeah, not counting this most recent game. But then there was a big movement like LeBron got behind it. It was like Free Odell, let Odell go somewhere else. I just feel like when I've watched him on the field recently,

he's not the same O'Dell that he was before the injuries when he was on the Giants. But yeah, he did get released and he got signed by the Rams. Right. I think a lot of the times players, if they're unhappy, it affects their play. He is an obvious, you know, amazing talent. I think that, I mean, who knows as to why he's not playing up to his capabilities?

There's a whole bunch of variables that go into football production. And so there's, I mean, there's no telling. I think if a player is happy, like he seems like an L.A. or New York market kind of guy anyway. Like, he don't need to be in Cleveland. Yeah. And so I think it's better for ticket sales. It's better for football. If he's like, he would be great on the Cowboys too, right?

Just a drama field. I'm not saying he's a drama field, but just it gives you something to talk about. Cowboys are always in the news, whether they're terrible or not terrible. And so if you have a market like L.A. or New York or Dallas or something. like that didn't that that that that's who those kind of players i mean he's he's like a i want to say he's an icon as far as like shit he's done but it's like he has the iconic presence right he has that like box office yeah he just he sells tickets people want to see him people want to see how he's doing so get him in the market like that and let him have an offseason where he can gel and more

with the team i'm i'm sure he'll produce some say Cleveland is the LA of the Midwest nobody says that actually i do yeah it's not in the Midwest I agree with that, David, too. Are we got another voicemail? Yep. Hey, my name is Neil calling from PA. What's going on? Macrodosa boys and that dog.

I was just calling to see, you know, with evolution, what do you think the first thing we'll see in, like, human evolution? Like, you know how some people have that little ligament in their hand and some people don't? Like, when do you think, or what do you think will be, like, the first thing that's, I guess, pronounced that we'll see in human evolution. Love the pod. Hope to hear from you guys, too. That's a great question. I think I know the answer.

I think we're going to start seeing stronger pinkies, especially the top side of your pinkies, because people use them to rest their phones on there so often. In fact, we have a coworker named Frankie that they think, like, so he has a nerve issue in his elbow. and the doctor told him like a lot of that is because you rest your phone on the top of your pinky all the time and when you press down on that it provides a lot of stress on that ulnar nerve that runs up like it creates the funny bone that's the nerve that they're talking about

and so he's like his nerve got fucked up because he was using his phone too much and resting it on there you're going to see like people are going to be more effective at swiping on Tinder if they have a stronger like top side of their pinky and in that case they're going to they're going to reproduce more often than everybody else next thing you know more kids are going to be born that have that same modification boom i actually i got to push back because evolution i'm pushing back evolution has to

do with more traits that get people killed disappear so you got to think that's not necessarily true no because then the other traits if something so basically in order the first change we're going to see is something that kills people being eliminated from the population before they're at a reproducing age like the weakest link okay so so in this scenario it's not no the people that have the most sex are actually going to be eliminated because all the in cells are going to track them down and kill them first good luck fucker no but i don't know i think you're thinking about it wrong is it's it's it's it's an adaptation to the to the environment right so it's not it's not it's not it's not you don't evolve to survive right it's just through so you can also evolve to not die

natural threat either way sure but the the the goal is survival right so I guess it's kind of one in the same but I think you're thinking of it in a in like a negative way rather than a positive way like that would be a positive trait

but the thing is no one's going to die if their pinky is not strong enough no that it's just it's just not every trait that is evolved or or non-random mutation is just for survival sometimes it's just an adaptation to the environment.

I actually think it's going to be addictive personalities are going to go away. People who can handle their booze. Maybe that's going to become more prominent. No, people, because think about it, look at the population, what is killing young people the most? Drugs. Fentanyl.

So people who have addictive personalities like to use different. So people who have more dangerous tendencies into getting into those things, whatever psychological trait, I think that's going to be eliminated before anything else does. See, I think it's not going to be anything natural. I actually think our next step in evolution tangibly is like an integration with technology. Like a real electric fusion with our anatomy.

Like somehow somewhere like on some like we really are like you figure out a way to program the internet in your brain or something like that. Like it sounds like some super sci-fi shit, but I think that's how we take our species to interstellar, which I'm a fan of. What about losing pubic hair? Because it doesn't really serve that much of a purpose now. Could you see humans just being completely pubeless in 500,000 years?

I could see that. It would make sense, actually. I see that very frequently on the Internet. It actually makes a lot of sense because, I mean, pretty much everybody, I know, shaves it. Manscape. But that's not how, like, evolution happens, though. That is how evolution. Then how did humans, like, because obviously you compare us to apes, we have a lot less hair?

bro hold on why did it help us to just have less hair because we developed clothing well now we have so what you're what you're positing is that we cannot change the the course of evolution which is literally why all you fuckers

out there like dogs because we changed wolves evolution we changed because we manipulated that because we selectively chose the ones yes and what he's saying is you can selectively choose what our bodies would have on it and grow naturally you can't i'm i'm not saying a hundred percent it's going to happen i'm saying i can see that

being a trait because there's no use for there's no survival mechanism for pubicare right but people who are naturally very hairy who shave are still going to pass down their hairy traits their kids yeah but a lot of a lot of how evolution happens is is is is non-random genetic mutation so there could be a mutation is what he's saying it could just so happen that it doesn't serve us anymore as a as a species to have that but that 10 minutes of people shaving versus people who don't have to shave I don't think will cause such a big

difference in... I think there's going to be a random mutation where a girl's going to be born without pubes everyone is going to want to have sex with her and so she'll pass down her trait more could be a man too if you're born the first pubeless guy I don't know would that

make a lot of girls want to fuck you? I don't know I think maybe not. I do think this guy's a baby cock. I think that you can look at the short term and see what's killing off the most people and be like, okay, that genetic modification is going to be in the gene pool less frequently in the short term. So if that's somebody that is born with an addictive personality or with the trait that predisposes you to addiction, those percentages of people die at a much higher rate than the population as a whole. So that's actually

being, I think that that part of the gene pool is being shrunk as we see it. I think Billy might be right not anything against people with like addictive personality no no no no but just straight up from like uh you can quantify that yeah i was talking about more from like the the physical characteristic standpoint yeah physical characteristic yeah physical character there it doesn't serve us it actually because the whole goal to evolution is survivability short people are out then because i feel like short people aren't fucking as much as as they used to we've become a meme where it's like oh short guys get out of here. Not to go old bagel boss on you guys.

Short guys used to get laid more than they do now. Yeah, probably. Back in the day it was probably distinguished. It was just only short guys. That's what's interesting about this conversation. It's fat people. We've kind of, we have definitely evolved outside of being, like we're apex predators, right? When we weren't.

And so we've evolved outside of our environment into the point of like we're one of the only species creating our environment. And so it's interesting to see what the, evolution inside of our own creation will be. That's why I think it's going to be technological. I'm not like being hunted when I walk outside. You know, like I don't have to watch out for giant birds. And you don't have to worry about going to war really. Like very few people do at least

here in this country. 100%. Yeah. And so like the goal would be like to survive and now to survive means to be aesthetically pleasing to procreate and generate wealth in our society. And those are

fucking weird character traits to be evolved inside of it because this is we're this is new this is relatively new yeah because it's like you and then like a um tech CEO you guys both have the traits to generate a ton of wealth but i guess they're very different traits yeah but they both lead to the same outcome mm-hmm the goal yeah there's also much quicker and i know evolution doesn't always work this way but like you could see lungs getting stronger due to having we can't really breathe at the moment haven't been able to for two years so we could see something to do with lungs that's true but i was thinking more initially uh along donnie's line of thinking nipples on dudes oh yeah they're out here yeah which i think

would look very strange yeah well that's it's weird because i've done some research into nipples because i've had that question before too i have four nipples so i don't know what i that's like a vestige of the past where it's like a half labrador but it's it's determined the sex of the babies determined after the nipples start to form. So the nipples are already there before you figure out if you're going to have a penis or vagina. So it's just like it's going to be there no matter what. So that almost makes me think it's more realistic that they would go if, because it's not

like the chromosomes are already there, you know what I mean, when the nipples are formed. So it almost makes more sense that you'd almost be able to tell a little sooner what the sex would be. It's a possibility. But, I mean, who's going to want to reproduce with a dude with no nipples? If all dudes have no nipples, you're not going to have much of a choice. But when are they going to lose the nipples? Billy's just very distraught because now...

I'm very distraught because you guys are not grasping. They don't fall off. No, it's not true. Just stuff that's useless doesn't disappear. We all still have tails. That's not true. That's not true. Wait, stuff that's useless does disappear.

It just disappears over a long period of time. Does anybody in this room have a tail? But the quickest... Yes, we all have tailbone. That's not a tail You just said We all have tails We lost tails

Because we walk upright And we can keep our balance We don't even hide in the tail Right It would explain a lot But useless traits do disappear Over time Like whales still have hip bones

But the question was Quick evolution No they didn't say quickly What's the first What's the first You love to change the next But next is the soon as Next is the soonest thing to happen

Soon doesn't mean quick But the thing is The tailbone is just as useless As male nipples that's a that's a statement that I would have to actually put thought into that I'm not willing to but Billy you use nipples all the time to tell a person's using steroids or not yes that's why you're upset how can you do that so when or is this like a 20 minute tangent just uh Google your former uh what's the name Brian Cushing Google Brian Cushing

Bergen Catholic High School burking Catholic I'm not going to indict one of the homies not publicly that's a good guy that works hard bring county powerhouse powerhouse football

high school big tea you have any ones no y'all you all covered it he don't think evolution

no that's not that's not do you think evolution happened yeah well yeah that's not like mutually exclusive

with creationism like it is absolutely no it's not no it's a thousand percent no it's not what we're talking about

creationism oh no okay oh don't maybe your form of saying god created the universe in six days does not

preclude you from saying that like birds evolved to have different beats in six days I agree with that I agree with what you're saying yeah in six days

it's the premise well some people believe that's literal some I don't know what do you believe um do you believe that the earth is 6,000 years old

I don't know uh I don't know uh I do believe the the week-long creation thing probably was literal. So you think he created everything in a week? Yeah, I don't think how long it took God. If you believe that there is a God that created the universe, I don't find it ridiculous to say that it happened in six days.

Yeah, I think he could do it as quickly as he wanted. But now that we understand how stars actually form, why is he allowing them to form naturally now over millions of years rather than, voila. I don't know. You're asking me to explain what God does. I'm not qualified to do that. No, I'm asking you to follow the logic.

Like, logically, can you see how it's hard to believe that somebody went like that rather than... Yeah, I find it equally hard to believe that the universe just appeared out of nowhere trillions of years ago. Yeah, nobody says that. Sure they do. No, we don't. This show's so awesome.

The Big Bang theory is like, No one fully understands, like, what was here before the Big Bang? Then nobody knows. Again, if something happened like God saying, let there be light, I would find it reasonable for something like the Big Bang to have happened. I don't think of those are- Come on. How can you say it's unlikely that it happened out of nothing?

But then as soon as you say, God made it out of nothing, then it's likely. That's bullshit. I'm saying they're both incredibly difficult to believe. Oh, okay. I jumped on you too early. And that if you believe God created the universe and, uttered a phrase such as let there be light, science could, and there, there is a scientific explanation for how the universe started that sounds relatively similar to that. Yeah. I agree with

Big T. I think he's not making, like, both are so hard to grasp as a human, like, so, because we're always looking for answers. Like, I know you're very inquisive. You're always looking for it. So it's like what you, you go down a path of questions and it's like, well, if the Big Bang was first, like, you have to ask, well, what was before that? It's kind of like, you do, but there's, there's some things that that are literally out of our grass because we talk about something like the Big Bang, right? I just spent mad time thinking

and looking into this shit. But if you look at something like the Big Ring, literally time didn't exist. So to ask what was before the Big Bang is kind of nonsensical. But so you hear how ridiculous that sounds. Not ridiculous. It's just hard to grab.

It's ridiculous in that. To say what happened before there was time is it's impossible. It's almost a nonsensical question. Yes. But it's not ridiculous. Nonsensical just means it doesn't. No.

We're probably asking the wrong question is what that means. Yeah, yeah. But when you say that, and if you, if you posit it like, okay, God created the universe in six or seven and he rested on the seventh, whatever, if he created it in a certain amount in time in which the way that we see time and we know that things don't, they are not born in that small amount of time, then we can logically conclude that that is not an accurate statement. Okay. I don't know if we're going to get to the bottom of the history of the universe on this podcast. We can pick it up on snack or dozing. See if we can wrap it up at the end. All right, next question.

That'd be cool if we did figure it out, though. That would make the news. Maybe the best podcast. People would clip that. People would clip that. That would make the rounds. Hey, Chad on macro dosing. I figured it out.

hi guys my name is tyler i'm from ventura california um my question for everyone i just want to know what is a passion maybe not so known to everyone or even to people around you that you guys that excites you guys that gives you guys going that really you know drives you to be great um Thanks My god Tyler enjoys a little bit of marijuana From time to time This guy

Sounds like a guy Who really needs some guidance He's looking for something Guiding Billy Frogs man They really do get you going No We all know that

That's not It's not a secret passion No Go ahead Remember what gets you excited When you're a kid No he's not asking He's asking

What did you excited Not him Yeah but I think I know What Billy's saying it's like go back to what you go to the basics like go back to what makes you feel like like remember back when you used to wake up

on like a random day and just be excited to do shit oh you think he's asking a snow to how do I get excited about he's basically I can tell he's asking what excites us and like motivates us but I can tell that he's looking for hell of an assertion to me roughly

I know a lot of projecting I kind of like I like where Billy's head's at though I was gonna answer his question Because I don't want to assume he's depressed. Yeah, that was like a wholesome Billy moment. No, it's nice of what you're doing. I agree. If that is what he wants, that was very nice of Billy.

And if that's not what he wants, Billy is quite assertive. But he's saying, well, like, what gets you going? I can tell. He's, like, looking for, like, inspiration. Yeah, I can't tell that. But, um, I think that's a very nice thing. What's your secret passion? Um, I really just enjoy creating things.

And it doesn't really matter what it is, like short story. long stories writing music i think just having an idea and then putting it into the world is just like a very fascinating thing to me yeah aryan if you ever want to post these things boy do i have a website for you no if you want to get blogging on it no i'm not i don't want to blogging we got we have lernet as a blogger on our website you in his ranks you're running back quota i don't have any quotas friend oh um talk to me i think i'm kind of with arian where it's like writing something writing is like still the thing now I'm gonna beat up everyone

now I love to write not for your fucking website though I just don't have the time anymore I don't have any time to do it but I love doing it it's the thing that would always make me the most excited when I would write something that I would feel happy about or proud about or that I thought was funny didn't matter if like five people read it

or 20 people read it or 2,000 people read it doesn't matter like it did that's what made me excited was just like creating something put it out there same thing with music same thing with music it's like if I can sit down and write a song and it makes me happy, that's what gets me excited is just like being able to create something. I feel like I'm pretty public with my passions,

like, you know, traveling, crab rancoons, history. I love history. I kind of, in high school and college, I wasn't obsessed with it, but I feel like the last five years, I've just gotten really into it, read a bunch of history books. But something like new that I would love to try

and I think I would just like, I'd be fully enthralled by it. We talked about it earlier, making hip-hop beats. So if I think I did have the time to pick up a new passion, that would be it. All right. Big T, do you have a passion that we don't know about? I'm pretty, I'm pretty simple. I mean, it's, I like Tennessee football, the Braves.

America. I do. I fucking love America so much. I guess it's not like a C. I fucking, I love playing video games. I like when I get home I'm going to sit down and play PlayStation until like 10 o'clock I just what's your game of right now in HL and also like war zone and shit like that yeah same video games I guess yeah coley I'm really struggling like I'm not a very

secret of person I don't there's nothing I don't think any of you don't know about me I'm pretty out in the open about everything. So I don't, I'm, I'm struggling to think of something that like, like, that isn't just like grotesque that doesn't need to be on here. Uh-huh. Well, now you got it. You just fucked yourself. Eat an ass. Like, that's a secret to everyone in this room.

Listen, like that's. Is it? Not really like a passion. Like, this is fun. Very passionate about booty in the face. Like, who, like, I don't, out of everything else, I'm like. I recently tried that. I was very drunk.

she was out to shower it's it's not the worst thing I've ever done but I'm not like a I'm not hopping back on that train what is the worst thing you've ever done that was the worst thing I've ever done actually sexual so it that just from okay so I'll never do it again yeah I mean it's because it wasn't like you know it wasn't filled with you know so it didn't really there was no it was just like licking skin you know what I mean so it's just it's it's it's weird It's a weird. It's a weird thing.

I don't even know. If I wasn't drunk, I probably want to done it. But, you know, I did it. And, you know, everybody involved was happy. So we moved. Sounds like you weren't. It sounds like you were not happy. In the moment, of course.

I was like, whatever we got to do, we got to do. And then I woke up like, I did that. Did I brush my teeth already? Yeah. Yeah, no, I definitely woke up and hit the Ace Ventura, you know, drank the toothpaste. But we are still getting that spot-fi deal.

It's so good. Is caller macrodosing. Yeah, right? That's what I said. I've tried to tell you. There's nothing people don't know about me. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I like being brutally honest. Avery, you got anything? Yeah, mine's a lot less grotesque than that. I just think travel. Like, you got to see the world, man. You have to see like the domestic parts of the country that you wouldn't really think of going to. Like me and my group of friends are starting to go to places that we've never been collectively as a group. and it's uh it opens your eyes and you really enjoy it like you kind of reinvent like your

friendship in a way where it's like you're all seeing something for the first time it's pretty cool that's beautiful all right thanks sir bill you got anything except for frogs kind of like stocks yeah like i'm sorry kai got into crypto that's gonna make this kid happy I love stocks. I just look at them going up and down. Yeah, Billy started that question with like, I need to tell this guy what to make him passionate about. And then he's like, man, I'm a crypto guy now.

I've never talked about that. The few times I have bought a stock, though, I end up just wasting so much time of the day, like, staring at the stock. Oh, you don't do that. And so I don't know. I don't really think it's a great use of my time. I like to buy certain things that I can just wait for five years

and check back on it like that. But anything you've got to be like trading during the day It's just like, it consumes your whole life. Roth IRA. Yeah, yep. He's not asking for a financial advice, but that is a safe investment. Psychedelic stocks. Don't take stock advice from his pocket.

I lost $400 on a magic mushroom stock, but I think it's a long play. I'm going to wait it out. Wait, which one? Mind mend. That's actually about to do really well. Okay, nice. Let's go. One more time.

Everybody buy mine mend. It's not a financial device. I also take stock. advice from this podcast. Mad Dogg, you got anything? Yeah, I mean, the like easy answer is like I very much enjoy. Rest stops. Rest stops.

Easy. I had a lot of people in my DMs asking me, like sending me pictures of Ohio rest stops, asking me which ones they were. Show me the lobby that is unanimously the same is not going to help me. But thank you for the concern. Forming relationships with people, obviously I think from this job. Doing that is pretty easy. easy to ask, but I've always been very passionate about, I, I'm one of those people

that, like, I hate if people hate me. So making sure I stay on everyone's good sides or trying to, at least. I guess also, if I want to get, like, cheesy with it, like, advancing, kind of Erica Nardini's mission of, like, advancing women in sports and media. I mean, obviously, there's a lot of men on this podcast specifically. something like that too I wanted I was the finance major before I wanted to work here so kind of going into like male dominated industries

is something I'm passionate about and trying to break the glass ceiling in a way but rest stops are also really high on that list all right one small bit of advice man dog it don't matter what you do people gonna hate you you could be the pope that's true

somebody going to hate you for it that's what that's like kind of the biggest thing I've learned with this job so far is like obviously I've only been here for six months and I'm only an intern still but like there are people who like will DM me or tweet me and I'm and I'm not you guys

and I'm not like a public figure or anything and they'll be like yo I hate her or like the subreddit I've like peaked at and like people would be like fuck mad dog I'm like what did I do to you but I but it's also it's like you've got a job they want yeah 99% of of that kind of energy

towards you is projection from them like they're not happy with themselves so they have to find something to pick at. And so, like, that's why it's just, you just ignore that shit. Somebody said that I, that I'm the reason that girls shouldn't be invited to the Super Bowl parties and that hurt me. A lot. You know how many, you know how many haters I've ever met that were doing better than me, Madeline? Talk to him, Big T. Not a fucking one. Not a one, doggy. Not a one. Big Tee out here, big T, what's I doing? I just don't understand that comment

of like, you're the reason why women shouldn't be invited to Super Bowl parties. Also, we're not a sports podcast. But I'm not going to go to any Super Bowl party with just a whole bunch of Dude, that's horrible. This is a horrible idea. Yeah, I make a mean buffalo chicken dip. There you go. And you're great company. Yeah.

Fuck the chicken dip. You're a positive person in any room. I would much rather. So I play Valerman, right? And so. Also, we need to get you, our front, one of our office managers, Enrique, plays Valorant, and I told him several times that you and him need to link up. What's, ask him what his rank is first.

And then we'll hook it up. But I play Valerman, right? And so you have to play. Erring said, don't waste my time. Yeah, I'm saying. I mean, I'll play. I'll play for fun, but he plays like every day. Well, then we might be good.

But like, anytime you play with a bunch of people, right, like, you might get toxic people on the internet. You know, you're going to be racist or they just be mad for no. What the fuck are you doing? And it's like, I would rather lose with a whole bunch of people that are just good people and just like, oh, it's all right, man, good try. Then win with a whole bunch of assholes. And that's just a life lesson. I'd rather be with a whole bunch of people who are just good and just be an average or whatever than be sitting on a mountain top with a whole bunch of money with a whole bunch of assholes. He literally just asked if he was good, what not.

a good person. Yeah. But wouldn't you rather him be a good person? No, no, no, that was more for if I can't, I can't,

I can't play with him because like the skill level right. So like I literally, we can't be in the same lobby. Right. So I'm down to play with him. If I get a burner account

or maybe he's better than me and I'll get a burner account. He always talks about, but I don't know anything about Valerance. I couldn't tell you. Yeah, I'm gold. I'm gold three right now. If anybody out there want to highlight me?

Enrique, we'll ask. Enrique, we'll ask him okay. Code three. I'm on a verge of platinum, baby. We're almost there. We got anything else as far as voicemails?

Nope, that was the last voicemail. You're unimpressed with my valourine skill. No, I don't know what that means. Yeah, I've never seen the game, never played it.

I know, but it's just the way you kind of shrugged off. I mean, I'm almost platinum, though. That's pretty, okay, platinum is high. Where's platinum the highest? No, no, no, no.

Oh, what's about platinum? Talk to me when you're diamond. Talk to me when you're dying. Are you better? Are you, like, are your hands better or is your Valerant better? I mean, I'm not going to get millions of dollars from Valorne, I promise you that.

You could. I cannot. Some people do probably. Yeah, 100%, but I'm not one of those. You don't have to put it in and say, like, those little pros, like one of my favorite dudes that I follow. Like, he was like, yeah, man, I was like, yo, let's get in the game, just a fun one. And he's like, yeah, man, we'll do it. And it's like, yeah, man, we'll do it.

And it's like, I have practice. Like, I'm not fucking going to practice for Valoran. My college had an esports. Yeah. Like, they do drills and, like, aim labs where you can do. I'm like, I'm not that into it. It's a fun, enjoyable game with dope graphics. All right.

If you play on Valerant and you're at what level? Gold. Gold, gold, black, even a high silver, like, we can rock. Let Aryan know. Yeah, we can rock.

You might play with you. Yeah, we'll rock. I love playing with cool people. All right, we'll see you guys. Those of you in New York, we'll see tomorrow night. At Lucky Jacks, right?

Yep. Lucky Jacks, what time are you getting started? If you want to be there super early, doors open at 630. And from 630 to 7, it's a meet and greet with the guys. I'm going to be doing tickets at the door. I'm the bouncer, so don't fuck with me.

Yeah. Yeah, so 6.30 doors open. It's going to kind of go from like 7 to whenever. And then, yeah. There'll be Angry Orchard there. Okay, I love it. We'll see you guys tomorrow night. And the rest of you will see you on Thursday.

Counten days, Mother Teresa. Oh, yeah. Love you guys. Mm.