Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Christmas Pt. 2

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew gets festive to talk more Christmas than last year and cover the rest of the holidays as well. Also, Billy drinks buttermilk to prove a point and everyone drafts their favorite things to do on the holidays. All of this and so much more on the show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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We are. We are. It was a long eight years, right? It was eight years. When did we stop saying Merry Christmas? 2000. That sounds about right. Maybe a little before then.

14. It's probably No, we'd say no, no, no, 2008 when Obama got in office, that's when yeah. It's probably closer to 08 than 14. Yeah, I remember the day Christmas died. Yeah, he wrote the executive order and forced everybody to stop saying Christmas. It was a sad day for all of us. He was doing, he was doing terrorist fist bumps. But we're back. But we're back. He drone striked Christmas. Yeah, and we're officially back. He had NORAD tracking Santa Claus for a reason. He was launching cruise missiles at him Yeah

Don't go on that website, kids He nuked the North Pole Yeah, don't go That's how they get you Big T, that's how the government gets their hooks in you Oh hey kids, Santa's in Australia Well, government's about to be

In your living room Yeah, exactly You know, the real elf on the shelf It was a Patriot Act Yeah Yeah Keep your liberty Santa wants you to keep your liberty kids

That was actually a conspiracy theory What? That elephant in the shelf Was a surveillance device Well, it is a surveillance device but just for parents. Elf on the shelf, actually, I think if you take what Elf on the Shelf does, you could learn a lot about our government from how parents use that to monitor their children.

Because Elf on the Shelf does not actually monitor that much, but they always have the feeling that they're being watched 24-7. A lot of times the government is perfectly happy to save some time, save some money, not actually put together a competent surveillance program, but make you think that they're watching you all the time, and that's how they keep you in order. I mean, I was told as a young child that Santa and God both could read my thoughts

and that was a real mind fuck. That probably explains a lot about you right now, probably. Why you're so paranoid all the time. That'll be fucked up if God was reading your thoughts all the time. Yeah. Well, apparently he is. Is that true? Like according to Christian doctrine, can God tell what you're thinking?

Yeah, that's why you have to pray away the bad thoughts. He's omnipotent and omniscient, all knowing and all doing. He can, absolutely. But, okay, let's imagine God is up on his cloud, right? And he's got this user interface in front of him that has access to whatever, seven billion people. He can touch at one moment and then touch the brain and then see what they're thinking about. Do you think that God really spends his time zeroing in, like laser focused in on everybody?

Or do you think he's more like collecting large amounts of data? be like how many people on earth are thinking about this thing well i think what he's doing is he's selling the data to to governments big corporations because like you know you got to you got to make ends meat to his god yeah wow who made god i i had to uh thought when i was like a kid when the whole god thing was first positive to me and my dad who is a is a believer he uh i was like i was like what if god is like a single god just for our little universe and there's like multiple with gods and they have god conventions i said wouldn't that be cool and he was like no son there's only one i said it down fast what what when god get lonely god gets lonely too what a what a what that's a

dope song god gets lonely too what if yeah because i mean think about it he he he spends all of his time watching other people monitoring other people but he doesn't have anybody that he connects with and no peers one-on-one yeah no peers nobody nobody to back him off when he's when he's when he's fucking up he doesn't have any homies to check him no accountability no accountability yeah when he's telling Abraham sacrifice his son he was out of pocket on that one that was

fucked up he was out of pocket and then once he was like I'm gonna do it guy was like no I know you don't yeah that was fucked up that was is that Abraham that was God's Ashton Cutcher phase where he was he was putting everybody on punk got you he was out of he was out of pocket a lot I mean the whole uh Job thing

that's off this nigga's entire family give him disease or all that shit like bray It's all for like a bet, like a $2 bet, like trading places. Yeah. It was fucked up. That was God's pre-woke phase. And then he got very woke in the New Testament. Somebody needs to do that and like rewrite the New Testament to make it less woke.

That's Jesus' woke. Jesus' woke. Yeah. Did you, I mean, have you guys ever played the Sims? I'm familiar with it. I used to play Sim City back of the day and never played the Sims. I mean, God just playing a Sim and we're just like a Sim. Sim City or Sim, like, universe, that makes a lot more sense.

He's trying to get the high score? Yeah, he's just, well, he's just also just fucking around. Yeah. Do you, I was thinking about this earlier today, because I heard somebody use the, the term woke, uh, is woke the exact same thing as people were saying PC was for the last, like, 20 years? No, I think woke goes further. What's the difference between woke and PC?

PC is your... That's a savage. Let's establish that woke has been co-opted by white folk. Oh, yeah. It, I mean, woke is now more used, like, being awoken, like, awaking from the, you know, simulation and propaganda. That was originally. Yeah, that's the original. But now, like, the right is using that.

Oh, yeah. And by far, it's like, it's their term. Yeah, it's the right. I think the left uses it unironically. Like, they want to think they do. Yeah. I don't think they do as much. anymore because the right has changed the right has taken it's like when your parents come on like

you know what I'm saying they they they have vernacular that the cool kids were using and then when they got it's like I don't want to say this shit no more I don't think the left uses it anymore they used to for sure it was I think they still do it was a big thing but like politically correct is kind of the same thing it started out on the left saying that's not politically correct and then the right took it and then it became the rights phrase for 20 years I think politically correct is passive and woke is active if that makes sense like any like has there been any um slogans that caught on like from the right that are original that just ain't co-opted that's a genuine question like just say no is that just say no yeah getting cucks yeah cucked yeah cucked did yeah

that's actually that's a great point billy like cuck started out i feel like that started to bubble up around 2015 2016 calling everybody that was a lib a cuck and then people realized how funny just using the term cuck was a good word it's a great word and so then

the left took that over cuck is like if somebody else is fucking your girl and you know about it then you're a cuck and you're allowing it or if you watch or you let someone if you watch yeah

or you let someone just fuck up your country and it's like a same type of It's a good insolation So they're saying you're You're allowing the fuckery to happen Yeah you're a bitch You're letting tons of illegal immigrants

Stream across the southern border What if he's into it though I mean I don't king They are That's what you're saying about somebody But you just caught them a bitch big thing Yeah Damn

It actually So damn I'm just gonna go on record and say I don't think I would ever find it enjoyable To like sit and watch my girl have sex with somebody else. I don't understand that mindset whatsoever. Right.

I don't understand it either, but I don't kink shame. I mean, I'm not trying to shame them. I'm just saying I can put my, I can like kind of see, not even see, but like I,

somebody has a foot fetish. I find that feet are not cool. I think they're kind of gross. But like I understand people are attracted to different body parts. I get that. But as far as like cucking goes, what part of that is pleasure,

whatsoever well being like look at this dude having sex with my wife I love it so what's interesting about it is like it's something very specific to Western culture and possession of like objects so object it has

to do with like objectifying women especially it's actually really interesting how it's like a total like the whole process of total like Western ideal that goes back to like agricultural nations versus hunter gatherers Is it like, is it like you get a kick out of like, you're doing what I say?

Like you do control, maybe? Yeah. I mean, I'm, I don't know. I'm not into it, but. It might also be a humiliation thing. Some guys are into that. Yeah. Like they like being dominated and humiliated.

And it's like, look, your wife is fucking another guy right in front of you. How humiliating is that? They're like, oh, I love it. I'm thinking through this. Are sports fans cucks? Yeah. That's actually. So like, so let's say like Tennessee this year, Tennessee could have been in the college football

playoff. They're not. If Tennessee fans watch the college football playoff, that's kind of like getting cucked. Well, it's more like sports fans are cucks because they're watching other men do stuff that they can't do. They can't do. Yeah. Good job, Billy. I think the fact that you can't do it though makes it different. Is it? Of course it is. And like, that's actually part like a right I would think I thought that thing that's to your point, Bigtie. I think because if you're going to watch your wife get dug out, you're not going to pick the scrawny cat with the little wee. You're going to pick the thing that you can't do, probably.

Like, I guess, but like you could also just have sex with your wife. I couldn't play in the NFL. You can't do it like that. Okay, I guess, yeah. I mean, I guess if you think of it like that. I think that's what it is. they probably get a kick out of like I can't fucking like that so like maybe do you think that maybe you think there are some guys that like get the scrawny guy with a little wee

that would be weird that's fucking he sucks you hate that don't you don't you yeah i wonder if like afterwards if somebody watches somebody fucked their wife like they like go out to dinner later on that night with her wife and they're like doing a play by play or like a sideline reporter talk to me about about when he had your doggy style like do they do they want to hear like a recap from her well he really he really he really banged you out didn't he there's another thing where like I saw this online a girl goes on a tinder date and she meets a guy and the guy and the girl are having a tinder date then all of a sudden turns out the guy's girlfriend is a waitress at the place that they went for a date and that's another thing like like the guy sort of

of cucking the girl by like literally taking her on a date to where his girlfriend works and then they go home and he gets punished for being bad and she and then the third party tinder dates just like i don't know what the hell i just walked into this sounds shockingly specific that sounds horrible because it's not that's not consensual on our parties that's that's why it is except yeah i think any kink is healthy as long as all parties are consenting and and and are of age. Other than that, like, that's like abuse. It's like, me, it's manipulation. You're manipulating the shorty thinking and you're taking out to a nice date, but really you're just getting your rocks off with your girl later on. That's weirdo shit, bro. Mark this down. We should

do when we come back the Jerry Falwell documentary. Have you seen that or heard of it? I've heard about it. I haven't watched it. He's, he's into all sorts of that stuff. Yeah. Who, who's this guy? Oh, Billy, you're in for a treat my friend. Yeah, we should, we should do A pastor? Hugh Freeze's boss. Well, yeah, he was the president of liberty. Hugh Freeze is probably banging Mrs. Falwell, right? Yeah, that wouldn't shock me.

That wouldn't shock me at all. Otis is this. I can't wait to watch this documentary. Yeah, we'll put that on the docket for when we get back. I'll write it down. I've got eggnog here. Would anybody like some eggnog? I've never had it.

Can I try it? You can. Sorry, Billy. This is made with rum. and blended whiskey. What is it? Billy, you're like a real alcoholic,

but no, dude, I just don't want, I have to drive later. I have a casual drink with your podcast buddies on Christmas, you know what I'm saying?

Holiday, but I'm no, sir, not for me, because that'll spiral into you taking off streaking in the office. Billy pretends that he's an alcoholic

sometimes. Do you take it like a shot? No, no, it's like a, like a, it's like a sipping. Just a drink,

yeah. So I went to this, I have a drink here with me it is fucking unreal it's like some kind of whiskey bourbon with this like tea mixed with like some kind of i don't know it's amazing so i went to this like cookery thing where they teach you how to cook and they taught us this recipe this recipe is amazing this drink is amazing but the the crazier part that i didn't know they she was explaining to me that it's a it has nutmeg in it and she was like be careful with the nutmeg because you can get like intoxicated

off a nutmeg and i was like what like and comes to find out like you could overdose on nutmeg. You could die. You could hallucinate. And I was like, I had no, I've never heard of that before. It's wild. It is crazy. So I learned about that not too long ago myself, actually, that there are people out there that smoke nutmeg because it gives you a reaction similar to LSD or DMT. It's a straight up hallucinogen. And you can get really fucked up. Oh, so I have a bunch of a, don't do it. By the way, I should say like actual disclaimer, do not do it because it can really mess you up. It's not, it's not like a fun drug to do. It's something that like real drug addicts do when there's absolutely nothing left and they die very easily. There's no such thing as a

fun drug to do. That is just false. That is ridiculous. Drugs are bad. Don't do any drugs, what a fucking poindexter. Alcohol. Don't do drugs kids, but if you do do them, do them responsibly. Do not. If you do them responsibly, you can have a good time. Maybe, but, um, so. Bill, you do not want any eggnog because you won't be able to handle yourself? No, it's not that. It's like I don't like drinking during the week because that's like when I'm like getting gains.

Okay, all right, that's fine. I'll just have a sip of this. Okay. Mad Dog, give me your eggnog review. Okay. Put the camera on yourself. Cheers. Cheers.

Chink. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Christmas. You filthy animal. Oh, that's not that bad. No, it's good. It kind of tastes like toothpaste.

What? Knowing Mad Dog, that might be a compliment. I'm not sure. Yeah, it's not the worst thing. Let me taste this. This is... It's really thick. Egg-knock, Avery.

You've got a glass right there. Yeah, I'll try it. It's so thick. It's like a paste. It's very thick. And it's something that... It probably has the most calories of any drink ever. I like it less and less the more I drink it.

It's a simulator. Oh, the egg dog? I haven't tried mine yet. Oh, go for it. I've actually never had it. It's right. Yeah. Let's get the real.

action all right it smells good yeah it smells like a um like a good protein shake kind of tastes like it's very rich mm-hmm no it tastes like medicine that's horrible you don't like it yeah no it's bad big tea want to sit no i hate it you hate i don't understand the hate for eggnog i love eggnog i am a big i'm a eggnog stand i understand why mad dog's saying that it might be like it might wear itself thin after after too long But this is spiked, right? It's different. This is the one with rum.

Okay, I need to try regular eggnog. With like no alcohol? Yeah, it's a little sweet. But like the sweetness is supposed to cover up the alcohol. It's got rum. It's got brandy in here too. Yeah, there's something about it that tastes a little bit like medicine. I think it's the rum.

Because it's a little fruity. Also, this is bottled, pre-bottled, pre-mixed eggnog. Yeah. If you make it yourself, It's delicious. No, I'm definitely not counting out eggnog. I think I'll like it in a certain form, but I'm not a big fan of this one. I don't, I think a lot of people get turned off by the name.

It is a bad name. It needs to rebrand. I think bad name. I like the name. Eggnog? Yeah, I like the name. It gives me like buttermilk vibes. Eggnog.

Buttermilk, I think, is the opposite. Buttermilk is something that sounds delicious, but you try it and you're like, this is, this tastes like Satan's come. What are you talking about? Drinking buttermilk? Buttermilk? You drink buttermilk. I've had buttermilk, but you're supposed to put it in, like, baking goods? Yeah, that's fine.

Buttermilk biscuits, delicious, fantastic. Buttermilk pancakes, great. Buttermilk? Drinking buttermilk, Billy, I kind of want somebody to get buttermilk. Okay, how to make buttermilk? Wait, people drink it? It's fermented? You're not supposed to.

Oh, okay. Grandparents probably do. That sounds like something that my grandfather from Greensboro, North Carolina, who was like 91 years old. My grandma used to make buttermilk. to get out the sun and have a nice glass of buttermilk they tell you're not supposed to do this but you can do it yeah yeah buttermilk is a glass of buttermil before bed don't tell your grandmother okay so it's the liquid left behind after churning butter out of cultured cream yeah it's what

comes rises to the top yeah it's gross it's nasty tasting but it's great when you put it in biscuits we should get it okay i think the only reason i like buttermilk is what it's in i don't think have actually drank buttermilk before can somebody try to you knew you didn't drink buttermilk bray can somebody try to postmates it I probably

yeah let me see I've probably gotten buttermilk or go on Instacart Yeah Instacart could work too Just say I didn't know what the fuck It was really No I knew like

I've put it there's a drink with buttermil I've had buttermilk Billy I'm trying to man we've talked about this before just say it's okay say I fucked up say I fucked up it's okay

wait let me just see you have not drank buttermilk dog he's close he's close to saying he fucked up he's also drank blue I think I had butter and milk and figured that he just had buttermilk

the guy drinks Elmer's glue Aryan we don't know what he's had I promise he's never had butter milk bro Billy don't look like a cook No, I do Chances of you're being a round buttermoke No, I spent

Saying Billy doesn't cook Every time I went to my grandma's We spent the whole time baking Because it was always around the holidays And I was the special helper And I had a special stool So I could reach the counter That I'd get on top of and help

I had a lot of jobs You probably mix shit and wash it And put shit in the dishes And put shit in the sink up there And ate raw cookie dough And I was a special help her. Hey, it was a big job for those days.

A lot of people are having comments about this poll that I just put up. You want to take the temperature of the room right now. Who would you rather have all things considered? Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields. In a win now situation, Justin Fields. Okay. like tomorrow you'd rather have Justin Fields

yeah like if you had a team that was a win now team I'd want Justin Fields I'd want Justin Fields I'd want Justin Fields on the Jets because it's a win now scenario I'd want Justin Fields on like a win now see I kind of disagree with that I would rather have I would rather have Justin Fields on a team that's kind of shitty

than to have like I'd rather have Trevor Lawrence on a team that's got weapons no but ready to go the only reason and Trevor Lawrence hasn't gotten the flack that Zach Wilson's gotten is because he's been on a shitty team that had no expectations. I think there's a few other reasons why.

He's much, much, much, much, much, much better than Zach Wilson, much better. Recently. Well, yeah, I mean, he's only been the league for barely two years. Right. Not even. But like, he gets less scrutiny because he's on a shit.

I think he gets less scrutiny because he's much. Much, much better than Zach Wilson. Should I get whole fat buttermilk or low fat? Whole fat, whole fat. Yeah, whole fat. What about you, Aaron milk? We're not here for. Who would you rather have?

Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence. Honestly, I haven't seen enough of them to make a good enough argument for either one. So if you're just asking me off the stuff, I'd have watched no film on. I've watched Justin Field's highlights. I've never actually seen him play play. Trevor Lawrence, I haven't watched him at all. I haven't seen his highlights. I did see him in Clemson.

I thought he was going to be a good quarterback, but I just haven't just on the fly. I'll probably say I just haven't even. Depends on what offense or my, all that shit depends. There are two very, very different quarterbacks. Yeah, Pink, T, what do you think? I guess Trevor, but I don't think either of them are particularly great. They're not, they haven't proven much yet.

They both seem to be having good second seasons in different ways. There's something about Justin Fields that every single week, he does something crazy that makes me just freak out. He has some like jaw-dropping plays every week. Trevor Lawrence has been pretty good this year, a couple bumps in the road. But I don't know. There's just something like, when I see Trevor Lawrence at his best, I never think to myself, God damn, that dude could be

one of the greatest at what he does of all time. When I see Justin Fields at his best, I think to myself, that dude could be the greatest running quarterback of all time. Oh, well, now you're talking crazy. When he, Justin Fields does things that I've never seen, that I've never seen Lamar Jackson

do, that Michael Vic could not do because Vic was too small. I'm not buying that. Just was too small? Michael Vic is not a big guy. Michael Vic was Hold on, how tall is Justin Fields? Justin Fields is like, I want to say, 6-3, right? Issy?

I thought he was a little boy. No, no, no. Mike Vick, I think, was six-foot tall. He might have been listed as like 6-1, but he was probably like... He's six-three, yeah. Mike Vick was... He's got 15 pounds and two inches on Vick. And that's probably being generous because Vic was always overlisted.

When you see Mike Vick in person, like, Aaron, you've probably seen him a few times in person. And Mike Vic is, he's not a big guy, right? He's kind of, I mean, he's solid muscular wise, but like height, no, he's not, he's not tall. He's also the goat. He is. I mean, listen, I love watching Mike. What can Justin Fields do that Vic can't? Because from what I seen, like I said, I ain't studied because, like, Vic to me had a stronger arm.

Well, yeah, so I'm talking about like from a running standpoint, Justin Fields is a dynamic playmaker when he's running with ball. He's not as fast as Mike Vick. He's not as agile as Mike Vick. But he's pretty good at, he's got good speed. He's got good agility. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't the question. The question was, because you said, I see Justin Fields and I see him do things that

Mike Vick can't do. And I said, what can he do that Mike Vick couldn't do? Own a dog. That's true, Bill. Too soon. Now I see why Aryans defending Mike Vick in this situation. That makes sense. But Justin Fields can, like, he can run through people.

He's got, he's got more strength. He runs with more power. He can shake off more big guys that are trying to sack him than Mike Vick could. Now, Mike Vick could step around people and just juked him out of their shoes. But Justin Fields is a better runner than Mike Vick? No, I'm saying that he has, he does things at times that Mike Vick could not do. Mike Vick does things that Justin Fields could not do as well. So who's better?

Right. I mean, you have to say Mike Vick is obviously. a better running quarterback given the body work. I'm saying that Justin Fields has the tools to be as impactful of a running quarterback as Mike Vick was. I just got to say though Felix takes way more hits.

Yeah, because he's bigger. He likes to... Yeah, so he's a bigger target. So he's going to get those nagging injuries. That's why I want him on a win now team. Because you don't want him on a shitty team just unnecessarily taking hits. That's true. And then, you know, he's out of the... Because they add up.

Did you play Madden 04? Mm-hmm. Greatest Madden quarterback of all time. Greatest, one of the greatest, like, video game characters ever. Yeah, I mean, that's nuts. That's nuts. That's nuts because he's like a real person. If they were Mario? Yeah, I'm with, I'm with you.

Yeah. So there's, I'm taking my pick over Mario all day. What about James Bond, Golden Eye? Or odd job. Yeah, that's, I'm about, I was about to make that poll. Better OP video game character. Odd job. Odd job.

I would put in, I, I, I never, I never. played this game, but Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson's punchout. Yeah, but you're supposed to beat him at the end, right? Donkey Kong. Good luck. Donkey Kong goaded. But in terms of real people, like, Michael Vic, the greatest in, in, but I guess sports games are the only ones who have real people. Let's put them in the, in the conversation with like all the, I put him up there, for sure. I'm odd jobs negotiably the best OP overpowered video game character. Everyone says that. he was banned from online stuff there's no other character that's ever

had the effect that he's had because he was just so small yeah he was minor presenting coated like messy yeah he was yeah minor coated yeah all right we got buttermilk on the way

hell yeah okay Billy you really talked yourself into a corner here I don't mind drinking dairy products you don't know about buttermilk that's not I mean realistically it's gonna be like Kaffer, it's going to be like kaffir milk. Are we going to give him another chance to admit that he just made it up or are we going to make him drink it?

I'm going to drink. Billy thinks he's going to drink pancake batter. I think I literally was drinking. Yeah, that's what it was. It was buttermilk pancake battered. But I'm going to drink this buttermilk. I also got eggnog too, like regular. Okay.

Oh, hell yeah. To try. Smart. All right, maybe I'm in the minority on this. When I watch Justin Fields play football, I see things that I have not seen in a long time from. I think you're getting rubbed off on. I'm not getting rubbed off on. I think you're getting rubbed off on a gaslit.

I'm not. Are you talking about it by Big Cat? Yeah. Because I think Big Cat likes Trevor Lawrence more than he likes Justin Fields. I like Justin Fields more than Big Cat does. Okay. I'm the one out there staying on a table for him. I think he's a very good quarterback, but it's the window that I'm concerned.

Yeah, I mean, he might. Big Cat has Chicago fan, though? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, like, he's the window. understand that billy but people have been talking about uh like lamar jackson getting injured for years he runs way differently he does run differently he runs way different he avoids people and he like glides just feels runs into people um i mean that little demar jackson highlight from high school to stop if you've probably ever seen it there's a viral video that went viral like when i was in a freshman

high school and um marr's high school had purple and yellow little kind of ls u type colors and there's video of him stopping right in front of the pylon in the end zone and just a guy just on skates is just sent into the sideline he just walks in it was the sickest duke of all time that's a guy who could have just easily taken a little bump jumped to the end zone but he avoided contact so well from such a young age that he is totally different runner just my two sense. I don't know about us

the coldest juke of all time. It's a tall have you seen the video? Yeah, yeah. Yes, I've seen it

fucking I think you need rewatch it. Was it? Was it Trent? But I've also seen Barry Sanders. I've also seen

Dante Hall. I've also seen Peter Warwick. I've seen, I have a, you know what I think there's, you can make the case

that Barry Sanders has way better juke's than that. Barry Sanders turned a dude around. No, I'm going with Barry. I'm going with Dante Hall.

Oh, he has a, he's a joystick. He had a joystick. Peter Warwick, that arguably the inventor of the day, Leg. I'm trying to find the... I think it was Trent Richardson against Ole Miss. Yeah, it was. I'll say, it's a disgusting move. I think that Dante Hall had the best juke's ever.

I think it's really whoever in their formative years. had the best Duke that's just the best Duke yeah you said it once and I thought you just fucked up Billy's been calling it a Duke you think it's called like duking somebody out

you can juke you juke yeah it's juke you've been saying Duke with a J you thought it you thought it was Duke until like a duke 15 seconds ago

I thought he just was on some new shit that I was too old for because yeah it's just a minute it's okay We're moving forward. You thought it was... Jukes and Dukes.

They're just sort of used interchangeable. No. This is where Billy starts to lie and dig it in some. I'm not. Wait, wait. What is a Dube that's different from a juke? What's the day? Yeah, what's the dude was called Duke?

Duke it out is to fight. Yeah, just say that you thought Duke was Duke. It's okay. But like, I think that was just now. I haven't even doing that my whole life. It's because we had that conversation about the Duke. You just spontaneously started to come up with that right now. by the way just some other interesting football news as we've been sitting here

Travis Hunter who we discussed on this show a year ago probably like right now a year ago because it was on National Signing Day when he went to Jackson State he's in the transfer portal and he just tweeted out a link to his YouTube page and said at 100,000 subscribers I'll announce where I'm going that's genius that's that's that's that's some Riz right there some Riz God Oh, I got a tweet the other day that tagged us all. I don't know if y'all saw it.

But Riz is just a derivative of, oh, I forgot the word. Charisma. Charisma, yeah. Is that true or is that just somebody got me? I think so. I think that is the derivative. I think that's a slang from some, like, region of the United States that it hit mainstream. It's like glizzy.

Yeah. It's like something that was. Yeah. it's something that was from some metro area that popped up into the mainstream and it's gone I don't know which one that's like how vernacular works I don't know that's every slang term ever

I know but I'm trying to figure out which metro area it's been because Glizzy's DMV where did Riz originate did you guys call people Bamas people that you didn't like no what is that man I mean I do call yeah but I do

Quite literally people from Bama, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah, I do dislike them, but why, why that terminology? I don't know, Aaron, have you ever heard that? I've never heard it. I think that's a D.C. thing. Like, this guy's a Bama. Are you, is that just like people from the South that you're discriminating against? Just like somebody that, like, a loser.

Well, yeah, that checks out. Yeah, you just call them a loser. No, I'm down with that. I'm going to add that to my vocab. Okay, nice, nice. You're such a Bama, dude. Yeah, oh, dude, yeah. That hits good when you say it.

Riz originating New York. People out there from like the DMV area will hear you say that. And it sounds, it's spot on. Love that. Yeah. Where it was Riz from? New York. It was a Bronx streamer Kai Kinnett who, so then it popped to popularize, yeah, on TikTok

with him getting quoted in Twitch streamers. So I think it's more of a generational and geographical. Got it. My favorite Duke of all time, if you watch Tavon Austin's, high school mix tape. That's pretty sick. What was the guy's name? Joe Adams. He was an Arkansas punt returner and he had a punt return against Tennessee where he juke's like 12, not 12, like 11, all 11 guys on the field. Have you seen that? I don't know if I've seen that one. Google Joe Adams punt return Tennessee. It's nasty. Also, Adrian Peterson's high school tape. That's sick.

If you want to watch his highlight tape. That's not really, he don't really got the bop, bop like that, but he's just unstoppable. Unstoppable. He ain't going to it's cutbacks on us. Yeah, see, he ain't going like shake nobody at their shoes like that. You know, he might get him married out.

But he was just like, just physically dominant. Like, it was one of the most amazing. I had a homie who was in the U.S. Army All-Star game in college. And when we first got the cause, he was like, yo,

there's this dude that went to Oklahoma, Adrian Peterson. This fucker. can go to the league right now he's like i promise you dog his body type is insane and i was like shut up dog and then you know get to see him run and shit he's like probably yeah well i'm uh i just watch that that tape big tea that's pretty sick that's one of the best part those those those those were those those those were the dark ages that was duly yeah what do you do at that point you just scream like tackle somebody yeah i mean uh it was it was derrick duly i don't think he did

much of anything. Oh, my favorite part about Derek Dooley. Do you know, can you guess what my favorite part of the Derek Dooley years was? At Tennessee. Yeah. I mean, he wore those stupid orange pants. He's a lawyer. I don't, the, the binoculars.

No, no. My favorite was when he berated the team for lacking shower discipline. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. He went on a, that was one of his media rants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There were like a couple players that got staff infections on the team. There was staff going around the locker room, which if anybody knows anything about it is like very serious and not good to have. And they probably need to do a better job cleaning the facility. And so he started to berate his team saying they lacked, quote, shower discipline and that he had to sit down and show them how to wash themselves with a wash cloth. He was like blaming the team for not knowing how to shower correctly. I think he said like we've got some some of these guys have the work. shower discipline that I've ever seen out.

You know who's always, you know who's always like the source of staff in any college, high school facility. It is wrestlers. Matt rats are, you know, I'm going to come at them. I'm going to come at them. Every staff like outbreak in any facility I've heard of has always been linked back to the wrestling team. And I'll come at these mat rats.

I know they're going to get pissed off because they're like a cult, but like every staff, like I'm coming at them. I will defend wrestlers here because I'm scared of them and wrestlers will fuck you up but Billy's kind of right and I think most of them will admit that like the wrestling mats get fucked up because they don't

ringworm you have a ringworm and then everyone's wash gets like done in the same facility and the wrestler's shit sometimes they've actually started in a couple places just they have their own designated washing machine and drive. I have in major D1s.

Well, the football team has their own washing machines in general in major D1s. That's what I said. Not in major D1s. Do we share washes with the wrestlers? Most wrestlers will straight up admit, like, they get desensitized to fungus infections, things like it, or funguses and skin infections because they just get them so frequently. So a wrestler would be like, yeah, there's some ringworm going around, whatever. And just like shake it off, like not a big deal.

Whereas most other athletes would be like, okay, we need to. to do something different here. I remember there was, there was like skin herpes that was on the mat at UNC back when I was in college. I had some friends that were down there. And it was like people were getting lesions on their arms and shit just from wrestling.

And the coach was like calling players' pussies, a wrestler's pussies if they didn't want to come to practice. It's like, I've got all sorts of stuff on my body. You just do it. That's why wrestlers are crazy, though. That's why I won't fuck with them because a wrestler will straight up accept that and go to practice and just be like, I'm going to get ringworm this semester again, I guess.

But you can get herpes on other things than your genitals in your mouth. I didn't know that, dog. That's, and the coach is saying you're a pussy because you don't want herpes? That's wild. Fuck that guy. You know what's the scariest ocular herpes? Yeah, you can go blonde, right? Yeah, if you get in your eyes.

I think maybe there's somebody out here that's in the medical field. I'm pretty sure that's when babies are born. regardless of what the mom says about her health, they give mercury eyedrops to kids right after they come out just in case the mom does have herpes. That way the baby won't go blind. Damn. I'm pretty sure I'm right about that.

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get really into the holiday season this year yeah i'm trying to like because covid and everything i was sick last christmas i was kind of isolated for christmas and i was like man i really took christmas for granted so now i'm going all out i've been watching a christmas movie almost every night to get hyped up and just catch that little like butterflies and like excitement what's your favorite christmas movie white christmas is pretty good um also my favorite like my favorite like non-traditional Christmas movie like oh no

it's a wonderful life it's a wonderful life is one of the best Christmas movies never seen it you've never seen it's a wonderful life it's too old you would like that that's like it's too old it's like black and white I've seen parts of it on the Hallmark channel whenever they run it back to back

I just can't get into black and white movies I just I can't go back actually the funny thing is both those movies when I was little and I was like made to watch it I didn't really like because I didn't really get it but now that I'm older like watching those movies really makes you sort of go into the new year with a great perspective and just like be like thankful it's a good um like gratitude moment movie like if you want to have a gratitude moment watch it's a wonderful life you know tell

me if I'm right about this pf team but I feel and this could be like generational bias but I feel like our generation is the first generation to like really have fun like as adults you know what I mean like my sister came in town she was like yo you want to do a murder mystery dinner I was what the fuck is that like apparently they had these johns and I haven't gone we're gonna go as a fam but like you can go to the dinner and it's like a like they live play it and like somebody dies in the dinner and you have to figure out as a crew who did it right you know shit like that escape rooms shit like

that when I was growing up we were like adults was just adulting like they had just had errands and concerts. Like there was no fun shit. I have to feel like we're the first generation of adults to be like, yo, I'm taking some of the childhood with me. Am I wrong? No, no. I think you're totally right about that. Our parents and

like the generations above us, they were very like, I don't know, felt like they were serious all the time about stuff. You know? Like they didn't, you're right, they didn't bring anything from the childhood with them. Now it's like we want, maybe a lot of people will say like that it's because our generation's soft.

and we were taught everything's about us when we're growing up, that now we're still, like, show me the fun. But I think that's a good thing to still want to be entertained and have fun as an adult. That's one of the things are like, I'm an atheist, right, who grew up Muslim that celebrates Christmas. Yeah. That's wild, right?

But it's just like, I just see the value in like the joyfulness of getting, because one, when I, you know, I'm pro worker, right? Being the leftist that I am. when other like when is another time that people just get off of work for this amount of time you know what I mean yeah it's just so you've got to take advantage of day and enjoy your people and enjoy your family and so it's like if we got to celebrate a fat white dude bringing shit in chimney let's fucking do it man I'm with it I got the Santa cap on let's get a cracker yeah I think you're right but like generations before us they would just like become problem drinkers as

they got older and that's what they would do in their free time they wouldn't go out to a murder mystery, they just be like, I'm going to sit around the house and I'm going to drink a half a bottle of gin at night and then get mad at my son and fall asleep. That's, that's kind of, yeah, domestic abuse was the number one hobby. It was. It was like, it happened all the time. It still does, but like it was, you know, that Andy Cap comic strip, they also do the hot fries. That's how you guys might know them from, the Andy Cap hot fries. It's a comic strip about this British dude that just, the entire premise of the show is he drinks in a bar all day

to escape his bitch wife and then he goes home and she beats the fuck out of him with rolling pin every day that's it that's like that's his life he would get off work he would go to the pub

his drunken friends at the pub would play darts against him well he'd have like 12 beers then he'd go home and his bitch wife would knock him out with a rolling pin and that's it's also like

that's what people used to do for fun that's what I'm saying like even if you listen into like old comics right the ones that are not necessarily goats like i feel like the george carlins and the richard prize like they kind of expanded their social commentary but a lot of the humor back there was man i can't stand my wife i can't stand my family it was like well fucking leave dog like what does you do like it's the whole culture was just toxic like as fuck yeah you're right comics like half their material was about like how how shitty it is to be married it's like what dude it's your life that

says actually way more about you that you're just you're you've committed and resigned yourself to stay in it you live every day with somebody that you hate because you're too much of a coward to do something about it marriage marriage is also totally optional messages like marriage was like not essential but was like so ingrained like marriage is like optional nowadays like you don't have to get married and i feel like that sort of stem a lot of that and i almost feel like people are now going to have a better attitude towards marriage people that get married get married because they want to yeah mm-hmm that's very true I mean there's a whole bunch of societal variables that fall into play but just overall the vibe is way better as adults now than it was like it's

just way more chew I agree adults are allowed to have fun even if it means that they act like kids sometimes also really quick for everyone at home I'm dressed as a reindeer oh yeah we should mention that so watch on the YouTube because we're all dressed up big T's wearing Santa outfit. Ariens got a Santa Cap on. Mad Dog Santa Cap on. Billy's dressed as a reindeer, not Rudolph. I'm a, I'm, I can't see Avery.

What Avery got on? Avery's representing Hanukkah. He's blue and white. Now, it has nothing to do with the Rangers or the New York Giants. He's representing Hanukkah. Okay. Yeah. Billy is one of the lesser-known reindeer.

I'm a Donner. There you go. One of the, you're like the offensive line of the reindeer. Rudolph was the quarterback, right? Rudolph was the flashy wide receiver that just got all. He was like prime time. He was a problem. Yeah.

He's a locker room cancer. Why do you think everyone, he was like, that's why everyone didn't like him. He was Antonio Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Can we get eyes on Antonio Brown? Is he still in a standoff?

Is he still in a standoff with the police? No, that was played up. Apparently, they set, they like totally fabricated the stand-up story because stand-off story because they were like, he was in his house and he had a warrant and there was a like police were parked outside like it was something totally different they made it sound like he had guns in the house and it was an active like standoff with like a hostage negotiation with like didn't happen so it's not a standoff don't think so i think it was more of like a call my lawyer and lawyers talking to a

prosecutor and be like okay like how can we how much do we have to donate to the d a oh um breaking news oh wow this is this is wild uh if you're above 18 samuel jackson is unaware that his likes on twitter are public oh just came across my timeline only if you're above 18 are you allowed to are you allowed to verify that samuel you horn dog you horn dog yeah there it is what's he like him baby what's he like him I just like the fact that oh man he's into porn

and he has to like show them that he likes it by smashing the like button yeah yeah that's pretty bad like who are the people that if they watch something on you porn or whatever they go down to the bottom they smash that thumbs up button wait a comment comment

no comments on porn videos is the wow this psychology I could have like you in the middle yeah spanking the meat and you just had to be like whoa hot it's just like you have to type that in the middle of you getting off it's the weirdest shit I could ever think of yeah the porn comment section are they are hilarious I one time I wrote entire blog that was in the in the porn hub comment section I think it was when like barstall sports went down the site crash so I decided to just pick a random porn video and copy and paste my entire blog into there and it was like some some uh some video about like a stepmom that got stuck in a window or something like that and then her stepson came in and boned her because you couldn't get

out of the window uh anyways yeah you're right though the the comment section's so funny it's like some guy that's like oh man this is so hot next person says like uh what's that girl's at and then like the third person says like small dick it just has to roast the dude that's in it also samuel Too much dude. Samuel Jackson, it looks like, has a large crush or something on Brie Larson. Okay. A ton of her tweets. Not porn, obviously, but a ton of her tweets are liked by him.

You know what? Like, I say let the man live. How old is Samuel Jackson do you think? Like 70 something. In his 70s? Why is this guy, like, he's a Hollywood actor? Like, just, like, slide into DMs. Don't just be liking.

I just want to support. up just to see the comments the first video I clicked on the top comment is I also want to fuck like this with like a happy face and a fire emoji yeah porn commenters are the best someone said yo who wants to play apex looking for other gamers link up yeah some of these people are weird man hilarious he like three videos bray larsen videos he does like a lot of brie larsen videos not porn yeah just brie larsen in general it's a big fan of brie larsson so do you think he has a he has a burner that he usually logs into what is brie larsen from she is from rome which is a she won an oscar for she's also captain marvel okay is that her yeah i think so yep wow he's a

big brie larsen symptom yeah and she's just a very famous well-known actress um one other piece of breaking news right now, Billy. Yep. I know. As the world giveth, the world taketh away. Yep. And as you got Sam Ellinger ripped from your arms with Nick Foles supplanting him on the depth chart, we're also getting Trace McSorley against Tom Brady this weekend. Throw it on a dime. Jessica, Torch passing. Torch passing game. Is this a torch she came? Yes. Yes. I think he was, I think he was signed onto a practice squad. I don't think he was drafted. Trace McSorley?

Yeah, was he drafted? You would know better than me. Which means that he would have an even better underdog story than Brock Purdy if he were to like torch pass to be the next Tom Brady. That's true. So. So were you thinking betting on Trace McSorley this weekend? Let's let it ride. A Christmas miracle. That game's going to be so depressing.

Watching the bucks against the Cardinals. Yeah. Just awful. Just bad football. A lot of bad football out there. Tom Brady was right. Bad football. Anybody have anything they want to get into for the holidays? We should do a top five list. Macrodosing's holiday top five. Real quick, we killed the L.A. Cougar dog.

That's right. RIP, P-22. We did. Yeah, we killed him. Yo, we need to make a shirt everybody we killed. Oh, like airbrush? Yeah. What they did for Owen, like the RIP baby boy.

Or just, I didn't see that. Did they do like an airbrush shirt? We should do it like 2002 RIPs and then have John Madden or was he 2021. Was he at the end of 2020? No, I think he was 22. We can put John Madden in there too. Young Dolph can get on there. Tommy LaSorda.

Yeah. The queen. We killed her like figuratively. Prince Philip we killed too. Oh yeah, that's right. We did. We killed Prince Philip yet. All right.

So we killed Prince Philip before. I heard. I can't get into my sources on this. we had a scare with Jimmy Carter last weekend. We did. Big scare. You guys didn't even hear about it. So this is like,

I'm breaking some news right now that you guys did not even I mean, is it a scare? Is it considered a scare anymore? We came about 30 seconds away from the Associated Press reporting that Jimmy Carter was dead. Really?

Yeah, within the last week. Because a reporter misheard what somebody had said from a PR person. And the PR person said like, he's feeling dead right now. And he's not in great health. Don't get me wrong.

He's not doing well. But it was a misunderstanding where the word dead and Jimmy Carter was in the same sentence. And the associate press came within 30 seconds of running a story that Jimmy Carter was dead. But he's not dead. He's alive. That's crazy. Yeah. They got somebody has that story in a chamber.

I guess it's ready to go. Oh, yeah. So if they didn't have it. ready before, they've definitely got all their pre-writes ready for old J.C. And I hope it's a long time from now. Hope he lives another 50 years. I think the world's

better place with Jimmy Carter in it. Oh, would you want to live another 50? What is he? Like 97? Absolutely not. I would not. I think, what's the perfect age to live to? I'd say like 95. No, it's too old. Anywhere from 85 to 90s. I was going to say, I was going to say, I want to be

old enough. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, perfect, Perfect. I think I want to be old enough to be old and see now to where it's like I can cuss motherfuckers out like little kids and everybody's like he's just he's lived his life. He's earned that. I want to be able to be old enough to be pessimistically accepted. What about I'd like to live old enough to be in a picture with my great-grandchildren if I do have great-grandchildren one day. That would be kind of cool, right? Like I had a picture growing up of my great-grandfather with my grandfather with my dad with me and that's kind of cool to grow up seeing

that would be dope yeah I think I want to see my grandkids get married and then and then be out whoa and that's it yeah yeah but also I think you're like wherever you are after you're gone you get to see all of it just from a third person perspective

yeah hopefully not all of it yeah I don't like I don't want to see that'd be weird What? I hope. Do you get to pick and choose what you see? Or is it you only see people, okay, so you only see people with clothes on? Do you have the option to see people with clothes on?

Just whatever wholesome heaven type stuff goes on. Well, I mean, who's defining wholesome? Who's defining heaven? There's a lot of ifs. I'm not okay with. Just let me believe what I believe. Buttermilks here getting it. Oh, sweet.

No, hell yeah. Perfect time. You've made a horrific mistake. I will drink the buttermilks. I've actually, I'm curious to see what it tastes like. You're an idiot. This is going to be so bad. Well, what do you think? What's going to happen to me? I'm like, I drink raw eggs sometimes.

Like, this isn't. It's totally. It's different. It's a dairy product. Billy, I'm not talking about like your body being able to process. I'm saying it's gross. It tastes bad. It's a bad tasting thing. You think it's going to taste like Nana's biscuits. I, like in my brain buttermilk, in my brain, buttermilk is just,

like this rich creamy buttery yeah it sounds great like oh yum yum it's that it's a that's exactly i'm saying billy like buttermilk is a great name for it it sucks to drink it it's a great sounding name eggnog is like the opposite i think eggnog kind of sounds gross but it tastes great like butterscotch butterscotch you think it's like butter beer you think you're butter beer like i'm in harry potter you think you're in harry potter right now also i just realized we should have had Coley come on and do honorary egg nog toast because he loves it.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Shout out Coley. RIP. Shout out to Coli because he's still in the group chat. Like I think his love for us is just he hasn't exited yet. Like, yeah. That's wild.

He definitely hasn't muted, right? For sure because he hasn't texted in it in six months. Yeah. A thousand percent muted. Matter of fact, you can go ahead and leave, bro. Like, you know what I would love you to stay? But if you ain't, you can leave it. Somebody clip that.

It's okay to leave the group chat, Colin. He's proven his point. He's right or die. Yeah. You're right or die. Go ahead and exit, man. I know them alerts get annoying. I hate a lot of alerts on my phone.

I know we'd be blowing you shit up. It's okay to leave, dog. No heart feelings. We do miss you, though. Thanks. All right. So real quick, let's do some sort of Christmas top five. So let's do a movie, a food item.

Yeah. A. What else? movie food item a real fucking christmasy right now too a present movie best present you've ever gotten yeah best present that sounds good so movie food present yeah yeah let's do three and so we'll go around the room and let's do do you do a a best memory no just do three or like a best like holiday activity let's just make it yeah activity we can do holiday holiday activity.

I like that as a fourth one. Do we want to take like... Mount Rushmore of Christmas. Do we want to take two minutes to write our own out? Yeah, do you want to do an ad? Yeah, two minutes, two minutes. So type into the group what it is again, because I just wrote it down. I got a bummed, I'm in about three cups.

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Betterhelp.com slash dose. While we're waiting, let me make sure this is a real covering Clemson football for 27th. Okay, this seems like a real quote. From Tapo Sweeney, quote, we built this program on NIL. Probably different than what you're thinking, though. we built it on God's name image and likeness. Oh, fuck, yeah, let's go.

I can't stand this guy. Let's go. That is awesome. What happened? Say it again? Dabo Sweeney, Clemson's head coach, who's like the fakesest dude in the world, said,

hey. See, yeah, he said, we built this program on NIL. Probably different than what you're thinking, though. We built it on God's name image and likeness. This is just for you. Just, no you didn't nigger

I'm not kidding off a little kids ball it fuck out of here he is he is the worst remember what he's the he's the he said a couple years ago he would quit if kids ever got paid

you might think it's disgusting you think I'm gonna puke this up you might are we recording I mean yeah yeah all right buttermilk review let's go Billy

don't even smell it just pour into the cup oh it's it's like keffr it's like it's like keffer um this actually might be very good for you have you guys ever had uh i doubt i doubt that have you ever had a what's it called keffer keffer yeah uh cultured yogurt it's good for your gut health it's keffer oh billy likes buttermilk i need to try it now. It's actually very good. Let me see it. It's actually, it's probably good for you too. I don't think it's good for you. Oh, dude, my probiotics are going to be out of control.

You're capping right now. He just poured the whole thing out. Oh, I'm going to puke. Dude, it's actually great. I'm good. Thank you. You just don't want us to know that you hate it, but you hate it's if you mix like honey with this, it would be insane. It would go brazy. I'm going to try a regular eggnog. What? You know what Brazy comes from? No.

Oh, regular eggnog is very good. I'm back on eggnog. Wait, I actually do know where Brazy comes from. Dude. It's, uh, it's, it's, it's, yeah. It's something. It's just replacing the C with the B because if you are a, yeah

what if you're a blood you can't say sees and so you can't say crazy and I don't know where I got that word from

like TikTok is that true yeah so they don't say C's at all they do it's just there's certain words so like

if you around it you understand it but it's like so like they'll say wow I was growing up. I don't know how it is anymore. Like, I'm not, I'm out the loop. But when I was growing up, it was like, they'll do brazy. They'll be, instead of being like, oh, that's comedy, they'll be, oh, that's bombity. Uh, instead of like, are you cool? That'd be, are you bull?

That's a bull. That's a big one. Are you bull blood? Yeah, they'll be there. Are you bull blood? They'll do it like that. I love that. Yeah. I mean, I grew up in my section in San Diego, there's a whole bunch of bloods. Um, but, uh, I, uh, I, I kind of miss that, man. I ain't going to lie. Every time I go back, man. I miss that, man. I miss the homies.

Just hearing the vernacular, it just takes me back. I can keep dropping it if it makes you. No, you don't give me that vibe. You give theft from TikTok vibes. No, I think actually is from the futures. Took a shot at Henny, got me going brazy, brazy. Yeah. I do miss that, though.

I do miss. And PFT, you know what I'm talking about it? So when he went to college or like when I went to college, like the internet was just kind of starting it was around but it really wasn't popping like it is now and so i think i said this before but the vernacular regionally was new right so like when you so i went i went to tennessee i was i came from southwest in in new mexico and in san diego so like that's the language that i grew up with and new mexico is a very heavily west coast influence so i grew up around like west coast verbiage

but then you go to the south you hear people from georgia you hear people from louisiana you hear people from south carolina and all those different vernaculars that you that they grew up in in those pockets are entirely different and so you have this like melting pop moment where everybody from all walks of the life are like kind of learning to communicate with each other it was actually really beautiful and like now you don't really have that because the internet's so prevalent that like you When you hear an accent, you're not really surprised by it. It's kind of like, it's just normal, right? Or, you know, there's words that everybody says, like, cap.

Like, that's new. But everybody says that shit because the internet. But that was actually a beautiful part of pre-internet days was, like, learning other people's vernacular. Yeah, I agree. We don't really get that anymore. Everyone's exposed to too much all at once. Mm-hmm. You guys didn't know Bama until today.

That's what's beautiful about Bama because Bama was around pre-Internet. You had a good tweet, by the way. Your dabbo tweet, that's good. I'm about to fire off. I can't help myself. That guy's just, he's the absolute worst. He's, I love him, though. I kind of like him now.

Like, the fact that he's fully embraced. He might be doing a bit. Yeah, he might be, he might be bitten on me. He might be. I think everybody else. It's like, I think he's Nick Adams. He could be. I think he's Nick Adams if he was a NCAA head coach.

He could be for sure. That's funny, bro. The PFT tweets, they say, you know what the real transfer you know what the the real transfer portal was that's right guys jesus tomb it's a bad a banger was what an absolute word of anger he just thought about that just right now i mean tabo is i i i i love him i mean i don't know if i could stand ever playing for him or being in the same room as him for a long time because uh he i can't believe people want to play for him he seems like a nice person he seems like in theory one on one

One, he probably cares a lot about his players, especially if you're a good player, probably cares a lot about you. Probably go to the end of the world to help you out. I think he acts like that. I think he probably, like if you talk to his old players, the good ones I'm saying. Like if you weren't talented and you, you know, you struggled for four years on that team, barely made, you know, an active roster once or twice. Probably not a huge fan of his. If you were one of his star players, I bet you he treats you like gold. That's everybody, though.

Like, it would be hard pressed to find somebody who was nice that had a bad experience like that. It's rare because if you're doing good for somebody, they treat you well. But that's not the test of a man's character. The test of a man's character is how he treats the lowliest, the lows. That's the test of a man's character. It sucks that we're playing them in a game like without Hinden, without Jalen Hyatt and all this stuff. And like nobody cares about bowl games anymore because I truly want to just beat the breaks off of Clemson. It's going to be such an ugly color game.

We might wear like black or something. I hope so. That needs the offset because too much orange and different shades of orange. It's going to be ugly, man. I'm not going to be able to watch. But like other than obviously, you know, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, like I hate Clemson just because of Davo. I'm okay with that.

Aaron, was there any coach that you had looking back on it that you were like, that guy was just a nice person, just. a guy that treated everybody the same that you look back on and you're like, solid dude? Um, it's, when you get, I don't know, man, I think when, when, when, when, when, when, I'm sure there have been coaches, um, but for my experience, most coaches, when they get, like, the reins. they just care about winning I think they're

they're good humans overall but I think that when it comes to business they make business decisions and there's not

very many business decisions that just have you I said Coob was a really good dude right he was a good dude

I think he was fair um yeah I would say I would say Coop coo's a good guy man Coob's a really good dude I fuck with Coop um

because he didn't treat me he don't He treats you, of course, he treats you better if you're balling. I think that's every coach. But I think he, at least, he gave me a shot. He was like, he's one of the coaches where it's like, I don't care where it comes from. If you can play, you're going to stay on the field. And he said that when I first walked on and he meant that shit.

I mean, every coach plays politics a little bit, but for the most part, I feel like Kube was solid in that respect where he was like, best dude got to play. Yeah, Kube was solid a dude. Hope he's doing okay. We ready to do our list. Yeah, let's do a list. Let's do a list. So we've got four things.

You get one movie. You get one Christmas food. You get the best present you've ever gotten. And then, bless you. And then you get one holiday activity. Those are the four. You going first? You guys already gave me a present today.

I'm going to let Billy go first. we're going to go clock we're going to clockwise billy big tea avery arian mad dog me and then we'll snake back around so you get to pick whichever one of those four you feel more most strong list about in the first round most strongly about oh we just go down the list like we'll do movie first yeah i didn't think it was a draft i thought we'll just go down the list bill you go first uh oh movie first i'm i'm still working on one what do you mean you're working moving one i'm the best president still thinking. Okay, let's start off with the movie.

It's a wonderful life. Okay. Big tea? Christmas vacation, far and away. I love Christmas vacation, but I'm going to go with Elf. I think it's classic. That's a great one. Elf is my two.

You know what? It's always nice to see like a new movie make its way into that. Like, it's canon. Elf is a classic. All right, Aaron. Um, I was torn on this one, man. I was super torn because if you had asked me this a week ago, I'm saying home alone off top and it's not even close. But recently, my shorter movie watched The Grinch with Jim Carrey and that thing is fire, dog, on the rewatch.

And so right now, I think it's the Grinch with Jim Carrey. Fire, fire movie. The Grinch is just the Joker for kids. I like that take Yeah I mean the Grinch I feel bad for the Grinch Yeah they fucked him over

Honestly Yeah like orphan I mean Just He's just Thumalk outcast in society Like fuck Whoville Honestly

They're dickheads Agreed They sang songs about them They roasted them Actually I'm gonna bring up The Grinch song Right now You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch?

Yeah, they had a whole, I had a whole disc track. They wrote a disc track on the Grinch. They roasted the fuck out of him on this song. Like, it's no wonder that the Grinch flipped out. I don't want to, like, victim shame here, but the townspeople deserve what's coming. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

You really are a heel. You're as cuddly as a cactus. You're as charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch. You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel. You're a monster, Mr. Grinch. Grinch. Racist. Who feel racist?

Your heart's an empty hole. Your brain is full of spiders. You've got garlic in your soul, Mr. Grinch. I wouldn't touch you with a 39 and a half foot pole. You're a vile one, Mr. Grinch. You have termites in your smile. You have all the tender sweetness of a seasick crocodile, Mr. Grinch. Given a choice between the two of you, I'd take the seasick crocodile.

You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch. You're a nasty, wasty, skunk. Your heart is full of unwashed socks. Your soul is full of gunk, Mr. Grinch. the three words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote, stink, stank, stonk. Offset! You're a rotter, Mr. Grinch. You're the king of sinful sots.

Your heart's a dead tomato splotch with moldy purple spots, Mr. Grinch. Your soul is an appalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful, assortment of deplorable, rubbish imaginable, mangled up and tangled up knots. That doesn't even rhyme. They're just fucking being mean right now. You nauseate me, Mr. Grinch, with a nauseous super naus. You're a crooked, dirty jockey, and you drive a crooked hoss, Mr. Grinch. You're a three-decker sourcrow and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce. That's fucked up.

I stand with the Grinch. Like, what is he supposed to do? They went at him. Did you see that text I just sent you about how Max, his dog is actually the whole crux of how he steals Christmas and Max is the evil one? no you should check it out it's like a son of sam thing the dog's telling him to do all the bad things

no but max like goes along with everything even though he knows it's wrong and he uh he's the reason that the grinch is able to he does his bidding oh he's just following orders yeah he was enabler yeah but he knows what he's doing is wrong

interesting right i'm gonna write a grinch clapback song It's time to hear the other side. Let's do it when you come. Next month. I'm a writer. I'm going to produce it here. I'm going to have it here. I like that.

That's a good idea. I have a cringe clap back. It's time. Tis the season. By the way, the clip of Davo saying that is out now, and he looks down at his paper to make sure he nails the line. It's so cringe. I'll send it to you, but anyway.

He just would hate that, oh, Sweeney. Bad dog. Probably. Well, no, but he is fake. Jesus won't fuck with Dobbo. Jesus loves him, but he would rather probably he'd be genuine in his, you know, methodology. I bet Jesus was cool as shit. He'd be like, I don't fuck with you, Davo.

I'm with the cool Jesus. He is cool. He is cool. Maddie, it's all you? Um, okay. Mine is also Elf with Avery, but also, um, to do something different. Christmas with the Cranks. Have you guys seen that movie?

No. Great movie. Jamie Lee Curtis is in it. Makes an outstanding performance. Um, so I like that movie. Also, it's not a Christmas movie, but I watch it every Christmas, Big Daddy. Great, Adam Sandler movie. I watch, I don't know why I just watched every Christmas.

But I'll say elf and then Christmas with the Christmas. Franks to do something a little bit different. Okay. I have not seen it. Is that a kid's movie? I think it's like a younger-ish movie. I don't know. Jamie Lee Curtis runs into the...

It's a comedy. Yeah. Okay, my... I was going to go Christmas vacation, but you took that. You can do it. But if you want to do something... I'll do a different one.

Bad Santa. I love Bad Santa. Which one's that? Is that the one with Vince Fawn? No, that's the one with Billy Bob Thornton. Everyone knows. Wait, in Arnold? Was you shat me out your room?

Yeah, you're thinking jingle all the way, Billy. Yeah. Bad Santa is Billy Bob Thornt playing an alcoholic, drug-addicted Santa that works at the mall. And I can't believe you're just slamming buttermilk in my face this whole time. That's so weird. Wow, that. Well, no, because I used to drink keffer for gains in high school. It was supposed to be sick.

And this is basically the exact same thing. I just looked it up, Kefer. The only people, I guess I could be wrong, but the only people here are talking about games, it'd be like females trying to, like, get booty. Nowadays. It seems like, you know, trying to get games. Like, when I hear Billy say, he's trying to get, you just over to try to get thick. Yeah, I am.

Normal eggnog is fantastic. This farmland stuff, it's good. Premium eggnog. Yeah, but Bad Santa is, it's a classic. It's like very much like an R-rated movie. So probably not for the entire family, but Billy Bob's great in it. Bernie Mac is incredible in it. I love Bernie Mac.

Probably one of his last roles, right? Yeah, yeah. Who else is in there? Oh, the kid, Thurman-Merman is the name of the kid that's in it. I can't, Billy, you've never seen it? No. Have you guys seen it? You guys got to watch Bad Santa.

Trust me on that one. Came out in 2003 yet. There was no way we would have been allowed to see this. and it was out of style when we were allowed to. I'll watch it. A Christmas story sucks, by the way, just so we're all aware. Cleveland Classic. The 19803 one.

Wait, it's just too old. You'll shoot your eye out. Yeah, and he gets his tongue stuck to the pool. Always been asked. I remember watching it as a kid, like, oh, this shit sucks. It's an old movie that's set even older than it is, so it just never resonated with it. me yeah you know it's uh kind of a funny christmas movie crampus if you watch it and look look

it is a comedy it is hilarious crampus we talked about oh that's that's Halloween never mind i'm bugger uh so for my second pick you want to go you want to go food yep coming back i'm gonna go eggnog fuck it you guys know i like eggnog about that nog life you're a nog boy I am big time nog boy. I'm going to go. It's not your turn. We're going to opposite way now. We go back, though.

Um, I'm going. Um, I'm going, okay, again, I'm going a little bit different. My dad makes a really good lasagna on Christmas Eve. And I look forward to it every year. Lazzania, that's a good Christmas. Yeah. We don't do, we don't do like a ham. I don't fuck with ham.

Yeah, that's what's cool about Christmas. Like, you can freestyle the meal, whatever you. you want. Yeah, I do lasagna. It's awesome. Okay, Ave. No, it's Aryan. Oh, Aaron. Mine is like a really well-done smoked brisket. Okay. Oh, nice. Oh, man, Christmas Day, that thing would be chef's kiss. Oh, I'm so hungry now. Mine is, um, you don't have it often, but anytime you do have it, it's the best beef wellington yeah it's fantastic i like a good beef wellington yeah it's very rich it's hearty yeah it's a meal that makes you warm yeah it's a good holiday meal if you can have it um i originally was going to do peppermint bark i love peppermint bark but then i thought

about the little pillsberry cookies with the little like frosty the snowman on them or the christmas tree i had some of those last week and they're just so it just It's Christmas. It just gets you in the Christmas spirit. So probably those. They have elf ones now, too. Mm-hmm. Those are just goaded.

I don't know if I've ever had that. What? Oh, dude. You have. I know. They're little cookies like this size. And you eat them raw. You eat like half of them raw.

Where do they call? I'm going to look them up. Just look up like Pillsbury holiday cookies. Christmas cookie. They come in the sausage bag type thing. And then you cut them. I've never. Oh, yeah.

with a Christmas tree on them. Yeah. They're all sorts of... Those are great. Good call. Great call. Just elite Christmas snack. I mean, I'm a content Kim make great holiday cookies, like the sugar cookie with

the frosting, which is always a killer. Like the ones you leave for Santa that are Christmas themed, those are my favorite, like, holiday dessert, but the prime rim on Christmas, my family usually just does Thanksgiving, but no turkey prime rib at ham and that the prime rib bangs love prime rib on Christmas then then you eat it the next day in a sandwich yeah so much better than turkey yeah well turkey turkey's got spot on thanksgiving yeah all right billy the best president I ever got would probably be the first time I ever had a video game I got a Nintendo DS and I got Pokemon, Diamond, and Pearl.

And I know that sounds like pretty gamer, bro, but like back then it was so, because all my friends were playing video games and I wasn't allowed to. But then I got my first video game. It also had to do with grades. Like I earned it. Like, you know, maybe Santa will consider it

if you get this grade and I got it. It was so awesome. That's good. Present that you earn through something that you've done, Even though your parents were probably going to get it for you anyways, always feels good. No, mine was pretty contingent. Was it? My Christmases were very contingent on my report card.

Yeah. Big T. Mine is pretty similar. There's been a lot of good ones, but it's hard to top 2003, got an Xbox. Well, I got the year. Well, I know it was 2003 because I got an Xbox, and we were talking about Mad No 4 earlier. I got Mad in 04 and I like never had a video game system before because I was six I guess and uh and like popped in Madden O four immediately and played it and I remember my dad and I

were playing it and it was uh this was like the one year in Georgia that it snowed a little bit on Christmas and on the game whatever game we hopped into obviously it wasn't online or anything like we were just playing and it was snowing and my dad was like yeah the Xbox like knows what the weather is outside which obviously they do now uh but at the time that was not true at all and uh that was really cool so yeah the xbox in in o three how old are you 25

huh when you turn 26 may word because my first man was madd no 7 that i got on that ds 2 that's wild I don't remember what year it was but my first ever grand theft auto change change the game like

I remember my dad because me and my brother, me and my brother like four years apart. And when I was younger, my dad used to have, he had the set. He had GTA one, two, and three. And it came in like a big, like, a container. And you could play all three. And he would hide it for me because I had the Xbox and I'd be home and I'd always want to try to find it. And I'd find it a couple times. But it was like the best game ever. And then they finally were like, let's get it for him. And it was the first time playing GTA is just. Your dad played GTA? Oh, yeah. My dad had everything. My dad had the original Xbox with Halo. Halo was huge when it came out first. My dad loved Halo. I was never allowed to play Halo. My cousin was allowed to play Halo. And at Christmas, I'd go over to his house and play Halo. And he always just killed me because I was terrible.

Yeah, I think it was Vice City, but it was awesome. First time ever just playing GTA by myself. Arian I didn't grow up celebrating Christmas So I never really got gifts like that And so when I did start celebrating Christmas All right had a little bread And people were really like giving gifts To like people who got bread

So I haven't really gotten a lot of gifts like that So my favorite gift is just like the fam Just being around just being able to To experience the holidays in general in a festive way has just been the dope as part of it it's a little corny

but it's true it's just like just being around the family it's just like the biggest the gift that there is because you don't get a chance to really congregate in any real way

because everybody's on these little you know rat race and so the fan bam I like that a lot that's that's in the true spirit it is yeah

I'm about to ruin it. Go for it. My Wii when I was eight. She'll let Aaron go last. No, but the Wii the Wii was impossible to get it was very tough to find, yeah. Yeah, my grandparents got it for me

and I, to the state, like I that was the, but I've never been so happy. You know why it was the best? Because the we, everyone in the family played. Even people that didn't play video games. I was just pumped because I was and I loved my we I would play Wii bowling right now

Oh yeah I still do all the time it's great I know how to super soon have it oh yeah I know mm-hmm But yeah it was that was that like similar to big tea I didn't play video games growing up But like that was my first like video game console And I got to play

This is a formal invitation to macrodosing To come to my house for Sunday fun day and play we bowling We just drink and play we bowling It sounds incredible good call billy I'm very proud of you yeah that was big for you Billy no that's literally what I tell all my friends

who make Sunday plans what nothing no but we was sick the we was incredible I think the we was harder to get than it is now to get like a PS5 that's when they had the contest

hold your wee for the we yeah with that one lady died of water poisoning because you drank too much water you never heard about that no a radio station got a wee they did a giveaway hold your wee for some we

and the challenge was you had to drink like a certain amount of water every 10 minutes and then the last person to go use the bathroom got the wee so this lady won she won a wee for her kids then she started driving home

felt funny pulled off the side of the road and she died because if you drink too much water your body it reduces the the what am I the the potency of like so and all that other stuff that's that's in your blood it it waters that down it dilutes it that's what I'm looking for it dilutes it so much that your body's not able to survive well it's

crazy yeah do you guys remember osmosis and diffusion yeah because of there's so much water there's less particles there's more particles in your cells than outside I think osmosis is the water goes to where it isn't to reach equilibrium and just blows up your cells that's that's wild yeah Did a lawsuit come from that or no? Did she like sign a waiver? Yeah, she, they sued. They sued big time. Yeah, even if you sign a waiver, this is the dirty little secret is

waivers don't really mean shit. If you're negligent as a company and you end up killing somebody with a contest through your rules, you're going to get sued and you're going to lose. Waivers are just meant to discourage people from suing. So if you think about suing, you go to that initial meeting with the company's lawyers. They're like, well, you signed those. you signed a waiver so you can't sue and a lot of people will be like oh shoot they got me i did sign that they really don't mean shit yeah that's interesting why why do they not mean anything

uh in most states they don't mean anything the way that that they're written you can't sign away your legal rights but what about uh like n dAs that's a little bit different than a waiver and nDA works and usually it's involved with some sort of uh financial penalty that isn't Well, that's what I'm saying. If you can't, if you can't waive your rights away, then what is indistinguishable between like, okay, uh, I waive my legal rights to like property versus I waive my legal rights to, uh, dying in a water drinking contest? Or the freedom of speech.

That's a, yeah, good question. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not totally sure. But I think it has something to do with the fact that you're, you're making an agreement ahead of time with an NDA that if you do end up doing something, then you will have to pay X amount of money. It's like a, it's a contract. And if you do, I guess this is my question is like, if, because you can write a contract about anything and it's legally binding.

A waiver is saying that they're taking away your right to take them to court, which is not really enforceable to do. Whereas an NDA is like, if you do something that's against this contract, you owe us money or we will not pay you this money at your road. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, okay, that makes sense. I think that's my guest, and I'm not sure because I'm not a lawyer.

Yeah. But my gift, I was going to say, I mean, oh, this is actually an easy one. Got a basketball hoop in my backyard when I was like eight years old. That's a good one. That was a great one. And we like installed it ourselves, poured the cement, all that stuff. It was like a project that we all did together. So yeah, getting a basketball hoop in the backyard was sick

And then I'd have my friends or be like, I got a hoop It was an in-ground one Yeah, it was an in-ground one That's the real deal Yeah, it was. Definitely wasn't 10 feet though, so yeah, it was adjustable It was adjustable It was like 9, 5 and then you grew up your whole life thinking you could touch rim

And then it was an adjustable hoop It's actually kind of sad that I think all of us Young got people said video games Yeah As our favorite present It is very sad not me I mean that shit was sick

it was I mean Grand Theft Auto I'd get it That game kicks ass You could shoot prostitutes It's great I'm sure I'm sure if I celebrate Merry Christmas

But I just didn't grow up celebrating So I got as a kid I used to come back from winter break And everybody had their new Christmas death And I was like fuck yo Yeah I was bitter Yeah there was one year

That I got a computer When I was like 10 years old But that was mostly because, like, I needed it for school and stuff. It was becoming something that you had to have in your house. So I didn't have a computer even in my house until I was 10. When did you guys first get on the computer? Always, I think. Really?

My grandpa had one. Do you remember that game, Frog in a blender? No. Oh, my God. It's such a classic. It was like, I forget. I got to get the name of the game. But, like, the frog used to be, like, in the blender.

And it would, like, talk shit to you. And you could literally just blend the frog. I got to get the name of it. We had super shitty internet when I was a kid. So I remember when we got finally good internet. But we always had a computer. Because it's necessary. It's necessary to be like to be a student.

Yeah. You have to have a computer now. Now I think most schools just give kids laptops. I think they do. Yeah. You get like a school issued laptop. So you guys want to talk a little bit about. the history of Christmas in America?

We didn't finish our list. We didn't do activity, that's right. I forgot about the last one. Okay, so I'll go back. I'll say putting whiskey in your coffee on a cold day. Nothing like starting the day off with a drink. What's that, Billy?

That's just how I honor my ancestors sometimes. Yeah, you start your day off, having a little breakfast cocktail with the family, the entire rest of your day just completely weightless after that point. It's great. Irish coffee.

Irish coffee in the morning on Christmas Day. Love that. And when you're growing up, you never knew that your mom was doing that secretly, but she definitely was. It was in the gnaug.

Yeah. When the Irish coffee turns to the gnaug? Mm-hmm. At what point? Mad Dog. I like baking cookies. I think that's a girl thing to say, but I love a nice little moment

of bacon cookies. or little treats. I love the smell. Yeah, I love the smell. Then you play a little holiday music with it. It's very Christmassy. Wholesome, like a nice wholesome baking moment. Yep.

That's what I was saying. Aryan. I don't have much experience, like I said, but from being an adult, I love people watching the family. Like just having the kids cohort, they're just doing their own little things. the adults congregating and, you know, the teenagers doing their thing. The whole family together just vibing out doing their thing. I just love sitting back having a little drink and watching them do their thing. It's the greatest shit in the world.

Mm-hmm. I was saying like tossing the rock, playing a little football, some basketball outside, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Going out, getting a little fresh air. Yeah. Playing sports. Throw on the elbows, some family members.

Yep. I love just walking around New York It's like the only enjoyable time to be here And it's beautiful There's Christmas trees everywhere The lights are cool, like Fifth Avenue's awesome A hot girl walk at the holidays For sure

Yeah, it's pretty lib Why? I'm just kidding I'm taking a hot girl walk tonight to see all of that It's a great take though because I mean I've lived around here my entire life and every other period of the year sucks until now, like the lights just make this city so awesome the way it's decorated.

You ever catch somebody on the street, like some tourists that are here to experience like a magical Christmas and you catch them in a moment of wonder. Yeah. And you think, like, I always see them and I think to myself, I'm like, they think they're in a movie right now. Like, I could really fuck up their movie. Just go up, like, put my finger in their back.

Give me wallet. Yeah, but that's in the movies too sometimes. Yeah. that's even an elf I think he gets jumped yeah and then everyone's like a movie this is new york yeah i like it jumps a position when i see somebody going down into the subway at one of the stops that i know that they're going to be in for a real treat once they get down in there they're like having a whimsical adventure around the holidays they're going down some steps and i'm like there's a guy that's shitting down there that's about to just ruin this entire moment

for them they think they're in a norman rockwell painting it's going to be more like a jackson Pollock in a second. Billy. My favorite activity is hollowing out a snowbank and turning into an ultimate snowball fort in waging war on anybody who tries to fuck with the fort. It's totally terrible. Don't do this because the plows will, like, crush you while you're buried in the snowbank. But if you find a snowbank, it's like, you know the plow guy, like, it's gone and your

snowbank's not going to get fucked with and you pour water on the outside and it freezes overnight and just turns the snow bank into an ultimate snow fort and then you just make a bunch of snowballs in it. Then you just hide it and like try to light a fire and like all your cousins are there. And then you're just in your snow fort that you just perfectly burrowed into and like turned into an ice castle. And you can do whatever you want in it because it's not in the house and it's under your jurisdiction. And you can like just drink soda and stuff or or like yeah. Play with your frogs. No, not in the snow. you weren't allowed to take him outside no but like you're just there with your cousins and you're

just like making plans drinking sodas drinking sodas what kind of plans which you make this seems like a very specific prank this whole activity was very specific i like i like i feel like i'm there yeah you're everyone if you're listening this podcast there's you're in the fort like you can it's just like you're bundled up and you got your good gloves on for snowball making yeah bill you're quick question coat and you're breathing heavily because you can hear like the like the smoke i mean the the smoke's coming out of your mouth and you're in your fort and you like have a flashlight in your fort and you're trying to yeah figuring out billy quick question the neighbor girls are walking down the street what do you do you put on a baklava and throw

snowballs at them yeah you attack billy another quick question uh your your dorky cousin uh much younger cousin is nearby and he wants to get to the fort do you let him you say oh come outside he comes outside pelt him with snowballs. Okay, yeah, cool. Yeah, this checks out. It's exactly exactly the scenario I thought it was. Put on my baklava. Yeah. It just sucks because it doesn't. Bachlava, yeah. Just let it ride. Passing, passing cars, hidden with the snowballs, duck into the snow for it. It's the perfect guerrilla warfare. It is fun, but it just sucks because it doesn't really snow anymore, like around Christmas time, especially up here. I mean, in the past three, four years, it really hasn't. I was going to say pond hockey, but like,

I don't even get pond hockey that much anymore because it doesn't get as cold as you. So the specific memory I think is from 08. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like if you think back to the past like four or five years around New York, New Jersey, I mean, it really hasn't snowed much around Christmas time. But remember when it's it snowed so much like freshman year of high school. Yeah. Like it's just the past couple of years.

Like tomorrow, like tomorrow and Friday, they're both highs are going to be 50 and 52. So it's just going to be rain. I thought it was supposed to be 11 degrees Yeah like at night But Billy tell me what Baclava is It's the thing that goes over your face It's like a ski mask

Oh my god You put on your ski mask so you can't be identified Oh my god What bro? Like you know Would you be surprised to learn that Baclava is a layered pastry dessert He's made of Balaclava

A silo pastry filled with Chop nuts and sweetened with Whatever whatever Whatever I was like Baclavo on your face. Mad Dog and I had Adamo we looked at each other and she was like what are you saying what I think you're saying?

Bala clava. Sometimes you just get, let Billy roll. I do that a lot where I'll look at PFT and he'll just kind of give me a nod, like let it ride. Yeah, just let him. Yeah,

no, but okay, so I don't like to interrupt him when he's in the middle of something because he's making a larger point. It's like offside and soccer. Let the play go on and then you blow the whistle. My cousin got frostbite and to make sure he would wear his ski mask.

I'd wear the ski mask. And he was my younger cousin, and he'd always get frostbite. So, like, we had to wear masks when we're outside. You got a lot of a lot of a lot of it. Once you get frostbite once on your face, it's very easy to get a second time. So we were just rocking. Hey, Jesus. We were little snow terrorists.

Mm-hmm. It was sick. Snow terrorists. We were just hitting cars with snowballs and then duck it into the snow fort. And, like, sometimes the cars would stop. and be like, where did, who hit us with the snowballs and we'd be under they're just laughing our asses off. I bet your neighbors hated you growing up.

Well, this was at my grandma's house. Oh, okay. So they didn't even know we existed. But did your neighbors hate you, true or false? Depends on who you ask. I think that's probably that they hated you. There's, I mean, a lot of people liked me. You probably, I imagine you probably had some, you had some feuds.

No, no. I mean, you were Dennis the Menace. Neighborhood Scoundrel. Yeah, exactly. You were Dennis the Menace. Oh, men, that was a throwback. Wow. That's another one where I feel like Mr. Wilson, much like the Grinch.

Mr. Wilson's, he gets a bad rap. He was just trying to enjoy his retirement, be there with his wife, and Dennis just fucked everything up all the time. I mean, yeah, you're not wrong. But then again, it could be. viewed as like, like, why are you so, like, just, just relax. Like, it's a little kid trying to be a little kid, you know what I mean? Like, you was once a little kid. Just be the OG that's like, hey, just not on the lawn, my G, like, you ain't got to be. He was an ass. He was like, he was an ass. He was like break windows and shit and

just completely ruined Mr. Wilson's time. He had worked hard his entire life. Like, put yourself in Mr. Wilson's shoes. You worked for for probably 50 years at a job you hated. And you finally get to have like a picture of lemonade on your porch that you've paid for and then Dennis comes along and he just like accidentally flattens all four of your tires on your car would suck

yeah you're not yeah you're not wrong yeah you're not wrong fuck Dennis the Miss you're right so now we like Dennis the Menace or now we like Mr. Wilson and the Grinch all right so Christmas the holidays holidays in America I did a little bit of research as to how all this weird stuff came to

because it is kind of strange that we have a Christmas tree and we put lights on it and then we put presents under it, that whole thing. It seems, it's not the most logical thing in the world to do. So I was curious where it came from. Did you guys do any research on that? The tree is German, right? Yeah, the Tenenbaum.

The Tenenbaum. But it's sort of, yeah. And it was, it was just, oh, you can, you can give the chronological order of it. I was just fascinated by the whole thing, how, like, Christians in today's America would be like the reason for the season when the origins of it have nothing to do with Jesus at all. It's odd. Yeah. So around the holidays, people used to go, they would go wassling. And wassling is, you heard it. What's the song that's in? Here we go Wasling among the, Here We Come a Wasling by Kate Ruseby. Yeah, it's like a classic song. People used to get

together and they would go wassling which is like caroling it's like a mix of caroling and trick or treating so poor people would get together around the holidays and they would get hammered then they go door to door knocking on doors singing christmas songs or just singing songs for the rich people that lived inside their houses this was at least very big in new york and that's where the term are they they called them knickerbockers the people that uh that were the wealthy elite class in New York. That's where the New York Knicks come from. And so there were the rich people in New York. Also the pants that they wore. They would call them Knickerbockers. And so people would go door to door knocking on the doors and singing these songs. And the rich people would have to give

them treats. So they would give them like cookies or they would give them like cups of alcohol, some wine, things like that as a way of saying, okay, we're. doing pretty well for ourselves we're rich these people are poorer in our neighborhood let's give them just like something to make them happy and keep them drunk and they can go on their way so this happened for uh for quite a long period of time dozens of years and then uh they got together and they said well why do we keep giving away all or stuff to the poor people that come to our houses it's kind of it's kind of rude that they interrupt our our dinners that we're having with their families, why don't we try to rebrand this whole thing and to make spending the holidays

something that you do like in your house around your family, as opposed to going out and doing like a trick-or-treating thing? So the wealthy elite people here in New York, at the time, they're also in charge of a lot of the marketing firms and a lot of the big stores and things like that. So they started putting out ads and like Christmas promotional materials showing families like having indoor in their own home activities with presence under the tree. And it was also, by the way, very common back then for people who worked in, I don't know if it was like a garment factory or factory in general or retail stores, they would give their bosses presence around the holidays. It wasn't like the other way around. Actually, that's what you guys

did for me. Thank you very much for giving the smoker. I appreciate that. But then people got sick of giving all these presents to their bosses because it's like, why are we giving our boss a present? That doesn't make any sense. And then they started to rebrand I think it was like a group of women in New York banded together that worked in the garment industry and they formed

like a union almost of people that would not give presence unless it was just somebody that they truly cared about. So it wasn't like a workplace activity. It was going to be more of a home activity. And then that drew some pushback as well

because then all these managers were like well where's my presence? I'm sick and not getting these presents but there were some very influential families that kind of rebranded into I think it was the Morgan family from J.P. Morgan. They would get interviewed. They'd be in the press all the time being like we're doing Christmas at home just with families, just with people that we care about. So then

all the other people started to follow along suit with that and it became less about going out and being like a social outdoor holiday like Halloween and more about just hanging out with your family with the lights inside and all that stuff. So it was like around,

it was like the late 1800s, early 1900s when all this stuff changed. It was right around the Industrial Revolution. But prior to that, it was more about going out on the town, getting fucked up with your friends and then making rich people give you shit. And there was one,

I need to look up exactly when this was. There was one time where it really got out of hand that probably caused this whole backlash against it. And I think it was like a seven or eight day drunken riot where people were just hammered outside, just cruising rich neighborhoods, demanding shit. So it was like the start of a revolution around Christmas. And then at that point, rich people were like, this is too much. Let's keep these swine indoors from now on. There was a system of checks and balance in class warfare. That was one of them.

The rich, that's what, that's what kept the rich from, you know, too much income inequality was the threat of a marauding crowd. At Christmas time. At Christmas. So, you know, Bezos. Go to Bezos's house. Yeah. But this time they go to Bezos's house with a gigantic guillotine. Yeah.

There you go. Billy's advocating for, for murdering. No, that actually happened. Oh, did they? There was a group during, I think, the protests of the summer of 2020. I want to say that took a gillies. to Bezos's house. I forgot about that.

Yeah. That's wild. Maybe if they did it around Christmas, it just begged for things. Yeah. I think I just did the real life Alonzo morning gift where he was like, huh? And then, uh, all right. Yeah. I didn't say anything out loud.

Yeah. So the Christmas riots, I'm looking up right now. Oh, this is actually a long time ago. The Christmas riots were on 1647. so it was a still place yeah puritan government tried to cancel christmas this is in canterbury uh the people there protested with a destructive game of football followed by a massive brawl they called it the plum pudding riots that's awesome so like avery said they went out they passed the rock around for a little bit they got so drunk and pissed off that they had a massive massive brawl that

sprawled across the entire city and then the puritan government said okay no more christmas can't celebrate it outside. They actually outlawed Christmas after it in general, so people had to be secret about how they were celebrating it. Sounds just like now. Yeah. Well, we can say it again. We're saying it.

We're saying it, but secretly inside. Right. They'll lock you up. I went to Starbucks the other day. They don't have the Christmas cups. They don't have them. It's very sad. Like nothing at all?

I think they've got a red cup that they're using now. Yeah. Dayton. personified yeah what do you guys did you guys learn anything about christmas the true meaning of christmas the um when you do a little digging on the um you know twas the night before christmas that whole thing that poem was written by a dude name what's this thing the name i just had it uh clement clark more and That poem was largely, like, it appropriated Santa Claus.

Santa Claus was originally, like, you know, the whole fable of him was not originated, like, from Christmas. So it appropriated that. It appropriated the red deer from other stories. Like, it garnered, like, all these different traditions and stuff. And he put it into this poem, and this poem got published anonymously originally, but it gained so much steam that, like the folklore started like loving it around it and uh later he claimed authorship of it um but and like it still it's like one of the most famous lines of all time towards the night before Christmas um uh and people people claim that it wasn't him that did it but when I looked at it

it it does look like he did it um a lot of people uh uh riot for or for him but um but yeah just just just looking at this poem and how influential it was to like the traditions of our current Christmas was was interesting and it's interesting because it's like consumer in consumerism in America now is just a part of this big media market machine whereas in those times in the 1800s the media market machine was controlled by you know various news publishing groups and newspaper publishers and so the effect that columns had on the public

were wild like they really influenced the general public at large and so when you when you see like the effect like this thing had on it or propaganda in general it's wild

it's dope yeah things were everything was centralized back then now there's a million people with a different propaganda stream of their own that they're tuned into. I don't hate it, though.

I don't hate it. I think it's better this way. I think it'll sort itself out in like 100 years, but right now it's a shit show. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Traditionally, there would be people like two or three reporters

in the entire country that had access to the president had access to powerful people and then everyone had to go to them to find out what the news was. Those people eventually would become corrupted by getting too close to the people that they were supposed to be challenging and reporting objectively on and then everything got screwed up and that would just kind of rinse

and repeat there'd be somebody else that would come up and the next generation of somebody that would inevitably do the exact same thing so yeah i don't hate i don't hate the old ways of doing things for a simple fact is like if you look at like journalistic integrity i think there was higher standards back then there was way hard like that's true like the journalism back then was like really uncovering like real things and it was like evidence based it was backed by fact it was backed by things and then they would come out with the piece and now it's like you come out with the piece and then you kind of try to piece together you know retroactively and because it's about selling selling articles rather than getting to the but anyway we digress what about you guys

What are your favorite favorite things about Christmas? People are nice. You don't get that a lot anymore. Yeah. I love the way everything's lit. Christmas lights are the best. Mm-hmm.

I like how it's whole season. Oh, you know, we should do. I'm sorry, go ahead, man. No, you're good. I just say I like how it's a whole season, not just a day. Like, it really gets you in the spirit. You have time to warm up to it.

Yeah. That's true. When does Christmas start? Well, I was going to say what's ironic is. After Thanksgiving. Yeah. Day after Thanksgiving, Christmas starts. Correct. But in the in the same time that the Happy Holidays movement has kicked off and you can't say Christmas anymore, there's an inverse relationship between that and when people start celebrating Christmas.

It starts on October 1st now. It's out of control. It ruins it. In a way, it kind of does. It dilutes it. I've seen Christmas decorations and things for sailing Costco in August. That's just, I think that they're just doing that so that somebody's going to take a picture of it.

Yeah. And then post it online. It's, they're asking for clicks at that point. But I think that there was a movement. What's wrong with that, though? What's wrong with celebrating Christmas? It dilutes it,

I think, a little bit. Yeah, it defeats the whole thing. Maybe I'm just new to Christmas. Maybe that's it. You know, I've been celebrating it about 10 years now, you know? maybe a little under

but let's do it year round this is greatest shit in the world I love the weather I love I love the overcast I love I understand when people are like it's consumerism

and I get that I get that whole shit right and I don't think it's just be about gifts that's why like most of my fond memories and my best parts is about the people that you share with that's what I'm more involved with but if we want to disguise it

with the candy canes and artists let's do it I don't understand. Like, you can't dilute a good time. Ari and I have some great news for you if you want to celebrate Christmas all the time. What's that? I mean. Are you trying to go to church?

Hit him with some Christ? I'm just saying you can celebrate it all the time. Oh, you can't. No, you can't. That takes away from other holidays. He's not. He's not getting it. He's saying you celebrate Christ.

You celebrate Christ all the time. Oh, Jesus has nothing to do with Christmas, family. The guy has nothing to do with Christmas. Anybody's Christmas. That was the point of, if you did you research at all the origins of Christmas? No. I'm a big fan of the pagan. You should because it has nothing to do with Christmas.

Yeah, I mean, that's not true. A lot of these traditions are absolutely true. A lot of these. Pagan holiday. Yeah, it's pagan. So, like, we went over this last year. Yeah, no, it's correct. They're like the tree, all that stuff.

Yes, yes. He's born on December 25th, do you? No, but that, the, the narrative you're going with is also wrong. But the, yeah, the Christmas tree and putting. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what narrative I'm going with this wrong? That Christmas has nothing to do with G, that's lunacy. It's not lunacy. What, how to, what are the origins of Christmas to you?

Like, what do you think it came from? The birth of Christ. What are we talking about? not true okay okay well then we just i don't i don't even know what we're talking about um yeah orange is what we're talking about i mean am i taking crazy pills am i this is not you're not taking crazy pills um not even controversial and a lot of in a lot of it had to do with uh some of the stuff like what are y'all talking about no no christ well if you look at i think the catholic church is the christianization of europe uh the winter solstice was a

a big celebration in pre-Christian Europe. We talked about this a little with Halloween. Origins and drinking in the streets. They're celebrating that. They're not celebrating Jesus. They weren't like the origins of this. They were never celebrating Jesus.

It was co-opted. I thought you of all people would notice. I don't think we're talking about the same things. They changed into celebrating Christ, but the winter solstice because everyone's literally just in the dark for so many months and they're so pissed that like there's winter depression uh there's seasonal depression so literally it was caused by

the winter solstice so they're just like let's go nuts constantine is the first one see i should have i thought the facts was going to be more about american consumerism but i so i'm a little foggy in the details but i actually have the sheet from last year perfect let's logically walk through this with me, Big T. Explain to me the link between Santa Claus and Jesus. Again, see, yeah, we're not, we're not talking about the same thing. It is a Christmas tree that you put in your house. Does that have to do with Jesus? No, of course not. But that, that's what Christmas is about. You can have traditions. You can have traditions that are. Why is Christmas about Jesus when it literally has nothing to do with Jesus? Again, you can have traditions that don't necessarily like, yeah, a Christmas tree. does not have anything to do with Jesus, but that's what the holiday is. Well, how about this? Link anything to Christmas to Jesus for me. Link something to you.

I don't know how to have this conversation with you. That's what the holiday is. One thing. Link one thing to Jesus. That's what the holiday is. It was a pagan holiday. Do you know who the pagans were? Dude, okay, we don't know that like definitively.

that they chose to put Christmas on that all that stuff. But even if that is true, it doesn't matter. Right. The majority of biblical scholars agree that Jesus was not born on December 25th. Yes. And I'm being... Yes. Yes. Dude. So when you're saying, that's what I

understand. Like, I didn't even think that was controversial. I was flippantly making that remark. I didn't even think this was controversial. Like, I don't, I don't get what you're saying. I'm saying Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus. It does in the modern interpretation. But that's, That's what I'm saying. It was co-opted. It's a pagan holiday. I thought that I'm the atheist. And I'm all for it. I don't care where it comes from. It can come from Jesus. It can come from a devil worship. I don't fuck. It gets families together. I'm with that.

I think there is a general consensus that Christians a long time ago chose to celebrate Christmas on December 25th because of some pagan holiday, which we don't, or that was also on that day, which we don't know to be true, but it could be. That's not saying that Christmas is a pagan holiday if they chose to do that. That's a, so the original Christmas was on January 7th. Well, how, let me, let's three Kings Day. Because if, if you're, if you're saying that it was originally a pagan holiday. Something else was. It would be like, it would literally what it was. No, it would be like.

putting something like if we if we decided that football was rotting people's brains which it kind of is and it's terrible and we don't want people watching that if we put something on super bowl sunday and then had people do that instead that that's not you're overtaking something it's not that's not but again but if if we go by that premise then what you would have to concede is that there has been nothing of Jesus that has taken its place. Nothing took the place of the pagan holiday. Because if you're if you're arguing that consumerism has anything to do with Jesus, I don't think you've read Jesus. Again, I think you're conflating. There's nothing about Christmas that is Jesus like. There's nothing about the way you celebrate Christmas that has

anything to do with Jesus. There are people who celebrate people go to church on Christmas, dude. church has nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus said you didn't even have to go to church. You don't have to have a place of worship. Again, has nothing to do with it. Then I guess we're just, I don't know how to have a conversation with you with some of these things you're saying.

Because, okay, are you saying that you cannot be Christ-like without going to church? No, but also saying church has nothing to do with Jesus makes no sense. Render unto Caesar. churches pay no taxes like what do you mean churches are they rob from people okay well well that's that's an assertion you're making that just does i mean we're just not that that doesn't make sense churches robbing from people doesn't make sense no i think that uh christmas is definitely now

in the views in the eyes a lot of people uh christian holiday but it's got its roots in pagan beliefs. And so it should be a time where we can unite together, guys, and say goodwill unto you both. That's exactly what I do. I just, it's wild that, it's wild that you attribute the holiday season

and don't, and it kind of discount its origins. We can try to do this again, but like we're not talking about the same things, I guess. Big T, you can read, there's actual textual evidence in like history of the like again bill christianization of europe using taking the winter solstice and applying the celebration of christ's life to it that's how the the the pre-christian beliefs are attributed to why christmas became christmas

even if that's true which we don't know that it is it doesn't matter it is that's literal history We do. That's like, does the Roman Empire exist? Yeah. There's another great Christmas tradition. The news dump. The news dump organizations and specifically the NFL has done it before. But if you need to bury bad news, you release it like Christmas Eve.

You release it right before Christmas. And then nobody cares about. Nobody follows up on it. They forget about it because they're all drunk, they're with their families. And they forget about it over the course of the next two days. You know who is really good at the news dump? Who? The Soviet Union.

Soviet Union knew how to fuck with us on Christmas big time. So they didn't celebrate. In fact, I think Christmas was outlawed in the Soviet Union. If they did celebrate it, it would have been on January 6th or 7th. But they knew that America and the rest of the Christian world, at least, was mostly occupied on Christmas, doing Christmas things with their family. and so they invaded Afghanistan on Christmas Eve 1979 because they thought that like our government wouldn't notice which is just classic move on their part

and then when they had to do more bad news when they had to break up the entire country they did that on Christmas Day so they understood that like we are journalists were going to be home with their families they didn't want to have to go and change the papers for the next day they probably had the layout already set and put together. So the Soviet Union used to fuck with this big time on Christmas.

That's wild. Kind of like how the NFL drops bad news before the 4th of July every year. That's what Gorbachev used to do. That's shitty, though, man. There's no worldwide holidays, huh, where it was like, okay, no bullshit. Today's for everybody. There should be a World Wide holiday. Christmas Day in World War I and I think in World War II, they would stop.

I think there was a big soccer game, actually, that took place. between the uh british and german soldiers in world war one did you guys see all quiet on the western front i haven't seen that yet it is wild i go check that out and they play soccer in there yeah no actually they kill each other okay different but um yeah in wars sometimes they take breaks on christmas there's a a worldwide holiday on new year's eve right oh yeah or new year's day goes hour by hour Maybe I guess so, yes That's the closest thing to it

Yeah What about? Yeah, celebrating the New Year's I was going to say Halloween But I think Some religions don't celebrate Halloween Yeah Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate anything

That's true Not even the New Year I don't think so They don't celebrate holidays Oh yeah, New Year's I guess is the world's A world holiday Because we're all pretty much

On the Gregorian calendar No we're on the It's Gregorian. Yeah, the one we use is the Gregorian calendar, right? I've got to take about New Year's. What? That it sucks? New Year's sucks. New Year's like the worst holiday ever.

It's bad yet you pay $200 to go out. You have a line for drinks that's 45 minutes long. You stay out, it's cold outside. You stay out until like 2 a.m. Everybody's hammered and then you go home. And then you wake up the next morning. You're hungover is shit. You got to get out of New York, though?

Yeah, New Year's Eve sucks. It's the worst holiday. You got to get out in New York, bro. That shit sounded like a horrible New York night. Well, I've had New Year's in other places. I've had New Year's in Austin. Still not that fun. I'm doing New Year's in Chicago and paid a lot of money to go to a bar that I could have gone to for free.

Yeah. And the entertainment's never that great on New Year's Eve. They sometimes serve like little hors d'oeuvres or whatever that get walked around. Those aren't that good. No one actually wants a kiss at midnight? No, and it takes forever. Wait, wait, what, Billy? It takes center rapy.

No, Billy just not like, Billy sounded like he's rejected a few times. And everyone's just, it's just a bad scene on New Year's Eve. I don't like New Year's Eve. I'd rather, I'm going to start going out New Year's Day. I bet New Year's Day is a way better time to go out. Well, I bet it's fun if you go to, like, a sports park

because there's a ton of games on. Yeah, there's games on. you're like the most or you're the least hungover person there so your brain is overpowering everybody your brain my family has a bit of a new year's tradition we ain't doing it this year because everybody's traveling the ship but um we used to like growing up we used to my mom used to pick this cook this big uh green chili pot stew on new year's day and we just binge bowl games the whole day just kick it drink have a good time and binge bowl days that sounds fantastic Yeah, it was dope.

Do you guys eat black-eyed peas on New Year's? No. I don't know. I think that's a Southern thing. Big T, have you ever heard of it? Yeah, my great-grandma did that. It's for good luck, right? Yeah.

Old Lang's Eye. That's a great song. That's the only thing I know about New Year's. I mean, that's the only, like, thing you listen to that at New Year's. I know people who do sauerkraut and corn beef on New Year. That's what we do. That sounds like a German thing. Or Irish, maybe?

Irish, yeah. Yeah, black I worked at a job one time in Austin My boss brought in cans of black eyed peas for everybody And left it on her desk I was very confused Until he told me why New Year's sucks Fuck New Year's

No, New Year's is fun if you have like You know I still have a good time on it But I think it's a massively overrated hour If you have someone to kiss at midnight then it's fun It's a massively overrated holiday That's all I'm saying It's there's 15

better holidays than New Year's Eve I think I think people out there will agree with me New Year's washed it sometimes can be a little Wednesday before Thanksgiving yeah it can be in the right settings

yeah you don't if you like go to your like the bar that everyone goes to at Wednesday Blackout one's a bad take it's a bad take PFT I'm not with this one man what do you like about New Year's Eve so much

you're just doing it wrong it's it's I've done it I've done it every way you can do. You know you have not. I've lived, Billy, I'm much older than you. I've partied way harder than you. I've done way cooler shit than you for,

for like 15 years. He took, he took ass in a guitar. He took ass in guitar. So like, this is why it's a bad take. It's just like, New Year's doesn't represent,

like, you know, you don't even fuck about the party or whatever, but it's like, it's like the representation of like, we get another crack at it. Like, we start an new.

You know what I'm saying? Like, for procrastination, It's the holiday for the procrastinators. It's the, it's the, I'm starting tomorrow. It's the hallmark of I'm starting tomorrow. And New Year's Day, it's like I am, we are locked and loaded. This is going to be my year.

And I can appreciate that because you'll find the dominant in the rough with procrastinators. Yep. The majority of them are full of shit. But some of them like, that fresh start, it's just needed every now and then. It's like clean slate, January 1st, let's get a cracking. New dreams, new girls, new me, who this? You know what I mean? Yep.

And I get that. I get that part of it. But everybody's like, oh, man, I can't wait for this year to be over. Next year's going to be like, it's just another day that you wake up. I understand the new leaf mentality. But people that are like, oh, man, I can't. This year stinks. You know I love New Year's?

John Madden passed away. We lost P-22. I can't wait for 22 to be over. You know what I like New Year's because it allows us. to have the Christmas through New Year's, like, grace period. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Yeah, yeah. I do like how it, you tack on a bonus holiday.

You tack on a bonus holiday afterwards. I get that part, except this is the worst, the worst setup. I do sound like a Grinch right now, but I hate having this setup that we've got right now when it comes to just the dates. We've got Christmas on Sunday, New Year's on Sunday. That's the worst day it could be on. Well, it's a whole week. It's the worst day it could be on.

How could it be better? If it was any other day of the week If it was a Saturday, that's better Because then people get Friday off work We have Monday I'm saying most people There are a lot of people at this company That I've noticed that because we do employ a lot of people

That are right out of college They still look at having like a New Year's break Or a Christmas break Because we do have that But they expect that's something that most people have Most people don't get that off The in between Christmas and New Year's? Yeah

Most people don't Yeah No, I understand so you don't get summers off anymore. I've been taking a break. So, yeah, Sundays are the worst days to have Christmas on, I'd say. Like, Wednesday Christmas is great because you get that Tuesday off. You pretty much get that.

Most places won't let you come back to work for that Thursday and Friday. I was to say, or have that Thursday, so then you're guaranteed. Yeah, Thursday's great because you get Wednesday off, Friday off for Christmas. Saturday. They're not making you come back in theater. office for one day and then you get the next two days obviously for the weekend then you do it again next week for new year's that's the optimal day christmas you're right mad duck christmas on a thursday is the perfect setup and then it's like a thursday like people like have fun on thursdays no matter

like on normal weeks too yep yep so then you just roll into a weekend we want to do some some listener voicemails yep i have some let's go some christmas voicemails also um time um time it back. It's also Samuel Jackson's birthday today. Okay. Horny on the birthday. You know what's sick that they do for Christmas in my town too? The fire department

rides around town and someone dressed up as Santa and sits on top of the fire truck and they hand out like candy canes. It's awesome. They go to every house. That is cool. Yeah. Have you been having a good Hanukkah, Avery? Yeah, Hanukkah's good too. I'm a double. I celebrate both.

I light the candles. Do it sorry I do it all my dad is Jewish my mom is Catholic so it's a split thing I like that yeah do you call yourself a pizza bagel no I don't think I've ever heard that what's that term that sounds

that sounds very anti-Semitic it's not Italian Jew no it's what people on TikTok have been saying it yeah no go on it's when it's like when one of your parents is Jewish and the other is Catholic and you call yourself a pizza bagel I guess Italian American

yeah I don't know if I would it's not supposed to be anti-Semitic Is that? Yeah, it's generally not a good idea to call somebody who's Jewish like a bagel, yeah. That's what it's on TikTok. Okay.

You know what? Matt Dog and as Billy usually have similar explanations for any time they have a bad take, which is, I saw on TikTok. It's a TikTok thing. I didn't need any harm by it. When you're finding trends on that thing

for so long, it just poisons your brain. Hanukkah gets, Hanukah becomes different as you get older. When you're younger, it's great. because you're getting a gift every night for eight nights like when you fully celebrate it but now it's just like kind of just get one thing I don't really expect my parents

to like get me eight gifts but when you're younger Hanukkah's awesome yeah the pizza bagel should I cut that? No no it's an educational moment I don't think there's anything wrong with it I've actually never looked at anything Hanukkah

like what is it celebrating you know what this is uh this actually is not a problematic term at all the term pizza bagel also means a person of italian and jewish descent yeah other uses no i don't think pizza bagel's that bad i just know that um you generally don't want to call jewish people like bagels yeah i'm sorry yeah no you know what it's on wikipedia it doesn't say it's problematic okay i've all right betty is it in the list yeah look what is stanford university have to say i don't think it was explicitly on there I've literally, like, badly, it got posted on a potato famine, Reddit.

Like, potato famine deniers are once again coming out of the woodwork. Yeah. This anti-assist sentiment. I was like, fuck. And you know those mix are having a lot of kids, too. So there's tons of people out there that hate you, Billy. Yeah. Just popping out Billy haters.

Do not make that a clip. No. This is all, like. But the thing was actual Irish people were finding it. like who never even heard this show before macrodotions they're like them damn yanks you're at it again my average accent is just you say everything like you're asking a question yeah what are you talking about i listen to macrodosing macro dosing that's billies is not bad macro dosing is a fine podcast my irish my erish is very well pft's a wee lad

no that's a little scottish a we lad we lad we lad pfd it is a there's a There's a good lad. There's a good lad. In Scotland, if you ever see a girl, and she's a fine bird and you go walk up to her, you better make sure that her other lad's not around because then you'll get the Glasgow kiss. You know what the Glasgow kiss is? A little bit of the headbutt. When you get the head butt right in your sonker.

Seven people just drove their car off the road. No, they love this. Yeah. It's a pretty bird over there. Say, it's a fine bonnie lass. Is that your bird? It's a bonny lass. didn't she?

She's a... Never enunciate your teas when you're speaking in Scottish. Like, can if you want. Skip your teas. It really depends on where you're from. Skip your tease. Scottish? People talk Scottish. In Scotland.

We had a bus... When we were in Scotland with Foreplay, we had a bus driver. I mean, you could not understand a word. This guy said it was the deepest Scottish. I could not believe it. Can you add in some bagpipe music? under when Billy and I were doing Scottish

accent. Absolutely. Thank you. I think that'll make it sound much, much better. Amazing Grace. What? Welcome to Edinburgh. They're climbing up the tower. We're going to go hit the pub later. See where J.K. Rallying wrote all our transphobic books. She's

I only know misogynistic Scottish slang. Yeah. That's cool. Edinburgh. Great City. It's for Mad Dogg once. to live. I do. It's great there.

In the summer. I want a summer there. Let's do some voicemails. These voicemails are brought to by Beard Guys. Beard Guys offers a comprehensive collection of beard care products for all types of facial hair and skin types. You can cleanse, enhance, moisturize, style. They deliver high quality badass beard care with irresistible beard scents and styles.

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for you guys. Can I get your Mount Rushmore of great athletes that never accomplished anything because they were on garbage teams? Being a Lions fan, I think I got the number one answer. and Calvin Johnson, but I want to hear your guys' opinions. Love the podcast. Thanks. Trent Richards. Arient Foster. Well, I didn't hear the question. Oh, never mind.

So the question was he wants to hear great athletes that didn't accomplish things because they were on garbage teams. Damn. That was a compliment. No, the dude that called in was a Lions fan. And he said

Calvin Johnson's the one one overall. I think this guy's got the 1-1 and the 1-2 overall with Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson, right? Both of whom retired way too early because their team sucks so bad. Yeah, I'd say that Lions have that claim to fame for sure, but are there any other athletes?

Absolutely, they're Charles Barkley. Yeah. Randy Maudeau's number one, right? No, I don't think Randy Moss are in there. No, because he was on the Patriots team that went 18 and 0 and lost in the Super Bowl. think that's my mountain rushmore right there Charles Barkley, Randy Moss

Thomas, yeah Charles Berkeley, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, and Calvin Johnson. I think Randy Moss doesn't get thrown in that conversation at all. Like I,

he should be though. But I've never heard somebody be like, Randy Moss not that great, never want to ring. People will be able to be. That's how great. I think he,

they think he has to have one. Yeah, receivers, people don't do that that much. We should start. yeah i think it's like it's just like it's as hard as like like i remember like when like people slander you on too but you don't got a ring and it's like you know how fucking little i had to do with that though like you know what i said it's like nothing to do

like i did my part like people in football if you do your part 100% there's a big chance you don't excel as a team yeah i've never understood that for and football is the one i it's football and basketball that that argument has used the most basketball that makes sense one player can completely transform a basketball game team and season one player in football can't do i mean you can do a little bit but like if you have 10 other scrubs yeah fun to watch but it can't i thousand percent agree yeah like like matt ryan one of the greatest quarterbacks of our generation and people always sucks he doesn't have a ring and like it's it's just dumb he was he was He was an MVP. One of the greatest quarterbacks of our generation? He's going to have one of the greatest statistical careers in the history of professional football. One of MVP.

Catch out the years he was in the league. We got to, because one of the great, that's a wild statement to me. Go look up his stats. I would say in the Matt Ryan generation, I would say you've got Tom, Peyton Manning. Those guys are way before him. Ben Rathlisberger. He played in his gym.

generation though. Aaron Rogers Philip Rivers Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze. Eli Manning. Joe Flacco. Eli Manning's actually, I'm going to look up his stats. That's a good comp for him. I think Eli Manning

is not as good as Matt Ryan. So Eli Manning finished with 57,000 yards, 366 touchdowns, 244 picks. Matt Ryan currently has 63,000 yards, 381 touchdowns, 183 picks. So way better than Eli Manning. I think Matt Ryan's better than Eli Manning.

Eli Manning was a product of a fire-ass defense, a very good arm, and some of the most insane Super Bowl plays that have ever been. Right. So, like, that's what I'm saying. Ryan, much better than him, but Eli Manning won two Super Bowl. So people are like, oh, Eli Manning's amazing. Eli Manning 118 and 118 in his career

That's remarkable Yeah, it is Although Ryan's record is He's 124, 109 and 1 When Eli's teams were good They were real good And when they sucked They were really bad

That's Matt Ryan too Dan Marino Dan Marino's on that list too Oh you know Carl Malone John Stockton Yeah Yeah I would say, I mean, there's one player that's playing right now

in a major sport that I would put right up there with Calvin Johnson or Barry Sanders. That's playing currently? Playing currently. I mean, Calvin Johnson's the greatest receiver ever, so who's... That's not... He's... I think that one and two are Randy Moss and Jerry Rice.

If Calvin Johnson played on a better team and played for as long as those guys did, it wouldn't be close. oh no well i mean jerry rice played forever that was part of jerry rice was he was so good for so long until the very i'll give you i'll give you calvin johnson better than jay rice

i can't give you calvin johnson better than randy moss can't do it really i i figure it would be the opposite not talent talent wise randy moss is the most talented writer receiver that has ever touched the field it is absolutely insane what he was able to do did you hear his story he told a couple weeks ago on the manning cast that he was uh going to go to tennessee and he showed up to his recruiting visit

and Peyton Manning wasn't there so he didn't go. And Peyton was driving back at 3 a.m. from Virginia with his wife to get there and didn't get there in time. Damn, that'd have been, that'd have been crazy. I mean, he would have played with, who? He would have been there with Peyton for a year. He was already married at college?

It was his girlfriend at the time, but it's his now wife. Oh, I guess what? Rennie Moss would have had 3,000 yards. Yeah, it would have been outright. They would have had Marcus Nash, Peerless Price, and Randy Moss. Damn. Didn't Stallworth play with Payton, too? He was later.

Are you sure? He was like, he was, yeah, he was after. You're right, you're right. Well, yeah, he was. Because I feel like Stallworth came into the league 2001, 2002. Yeah, Dante Stallworth was drafted in 2000. He was there from 99 to 01. yeah so okay so two years after okay okay okay yeah cool guy by the way dante stalwart

never had a thousand yards at tennessee actually you like dante good dude man solid human being very smart too like yeah very smart he is smart he had a bad 9-11 tweet though oh what was it uh it was from a long time ago he had like a 9-11 truth or tweet oh i don't know if he deleted it but he's like he's since become like very embarrassed of it but for a while I know he didn't take it down because he's like that's something that I said I have to own that but every now and again it gets gets brought up yeah I mean I give people room to grow man he's he's a side of cat all right so do you guys know who I'm talking about yeah no I've I've been

trying to what sport oh my trout yeah yeah duh who my trout Mike Trout and baseball he's he's going to be one of the greatest baseball players to ever live and he's never going to win shit because he's stuck on the Los Angeles Angels and I think he's kind of okay with kind of flying under the radar for sure no expectations on oh he he lives the life he could he could walk in to most businesses in America not be recognized and he's one of the greatest to ever do it has well over half a billion dollars yep by the by the time this contract's over they may very well have the angels the two best players in baseball. Yeah, show you Tony. How are they bad? Well, because terrible management,

they've never had good pitching. There's a lot more that goes into winning baseball games than just like, if you have one dude that hits, you know, a home run every 10 at bats, that's great. That's fantastic. But you need other guys around here. That's what I'm saying. Football and baseball, you can have the two best players in the league and still be bad. Yeah. And the angels probably do. Basketball, the ring thing is a reasonable argument because like LeBron by himself should be able to have a team very competitive. Yeah. It's like the oilers.

They have McDavid and Drysidal and they just, they'll never do it. Mm-hmm. If you were to take LeBron and put them on like St. Peters, could they win the NCAA tournament?

Yeah. Oh, they would, yeah. They would run through it. You think so? Yeah. Yes. All right. Maybe.

I don't know if they win it, but he's in the conference, you know what I'm saying? He's in the dance. Oh, that was without him. Without him, he's not into that. They'd win it. It's tough, man.

I mean, I believe you need a supporting cast. You can be the best player in the world, but, like, if you have a really good team against 18-year-olds? Oh, I thought you met 18-year-old LeBron. No. No, I think we're saying LeBron right now. Oh, LeBron right now. Even it?

I don't know, man. I don't know. He would absolutely dominate. I mean, think about it. A lot of these guys... I'm not saying he wouldn't dominate, though. I'm not saying he wouldn't dominate. go ahead yeah no i was saying like a lot of these guys like are going to go to the NBA but

no none of them will probably ever be as close to as good as lebron i think he would just tear them up yeah he would but what i'm saying is like he's still a man he gets fatigued you know what i'm saying so it's like if you have a a super dominant team versus him versus a bunch of people who are going to go pro and something other than sports then it's a harder you got to It's a harder sell in my opinion. I think they're in the dance with him for sure, but do they win it? I don't know, man. He's going to have to drop 60 every game.

You know what I mean? And that's not very plausible for winning. I think if... Yeah, I wonder how much it would translate because, I mean, he puts up like, you know, 30, 40 in the NBA. Also, you've got 40 minutes in a college basketball game. Yeah, true. So there's less time to score.

But he'd probably play all 40 minutes. 100%. It's interesting. thought experiment LeBron James and St. Peter's could they beat Kentucky? That's why LeBron is like so amazing.

St. Peters beat Kentucky without LeBron. No, that's a joke. Tennessee. Big Tee, you feeling good about Tennessee's basketball team this year? Yeah, we're really good. We lost Arizona last week, but on the road, tough whistle. Yeah.

We're really good. Yeah. I hope that, I hope that Tennessee does something in the dance this year. Me fucking too. But it's Rick Barnes So he never know Do we have any other voicemails?

Yeah, we have one more That one took us a while to get through Never been to a college basketball game Oh, we got to fix that I don't think I I've been to a D3 College basketball game

Several We gotta fix that guys Down? I've been to a D1 game The tournament in New York this year Isn't it always in New York First year else? I watched Iona versus Manhattanville.

I know he's got a tiny gym. Big Ten usually plays in New York. Yeah, the Big Ten tournaments here. Ooh, the Sweet 16 and Elite 8, one of them is in New York this year. Let's go. Let's go. It's in March, obviously. 23rd and 25th.

I'm down to right. If you had down a right. So, UT gets the East region. We'll be there. Last most mail Yep Mm-hmm I'm macrodosing crew

This is Eric from Middickland Park, New Jersey I had a question for the guys Or for everyone If you were granted immortality Except for one way that you could be killed And you got to choose What would you choose? Stay gorgeous, they have them

And thank you guys For everything that you do Hmm Arian, the question was, if you were immortal, but one way of you dying wouldn't work, what way would you choose to be like your one clause? This one's easy. So if I was immortal, but there was one way that could kill me, what would I choose? Yeah.

What's easy, Billy? Suicide. Oh. Oh. Yeah. I think Billy's right. I think it has to be a external factor

shot, stabs. No, no, no, suicide. That's the only way you could die. So by Roe. I like Billy's interpretation. But then you can be, someone else could hang you. Someone else can hang you. Yeah, but it's going to be a difficult to do.

But then it's, well, like, let's say you're in Qatar and you're doing acid and then they get you and I think that's still on the wobble. You wish I got. No, I don't. Don't start with that. You wish I got killed in Qatar. No, I don't.

You're thinking of a situation. No one would ever hang me. I was like, no, dude, you definitely could have gotten hung. You wish that I had gotten apprehended. Don't actually say that. Don't actually say that. You wish. But you're acting like you could never get hung in this day and age.

I am hung. Hang. Hing. Billy's right, though. Yeah. Billy's right that like suicide is the correct answer to this question. Yeah, because then when you're done, you're just like, yeah, dude. I mean, I'm done with

done with the whole, you ended on your own terms humanity thing. But also I feel like humanity would exponentially you'd probably just end up being the last human and that's when you'd be like, okay, like meteor or hit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think Billy's 100% right on that.

I don't think that there's a better answer that we can give. Maybe, maybe like being defeated by your own son. I was going to say drowning and then just never go in any water. That sucks. Then you'd be like, Like this sucks. I can't swim. That's the worst way to go, I think, is drowning.

Drowning or fire? I think it's the worst way to go. That ISIS video? I just don't want to get kidnapped and murdered. Okay. Nobody kidnapped Mad Dog. No, now people are going to try to kidnap me. No, that's not true.

Plain crash? Plains don't crash. Oh, my God. Don't say that. Commercial. Commercial plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't you just say you don't understand how planes work and...

I don't, but they don't crash. are you flying next? For 33 hours? Oh, God. Yeah. Well, it takes exposed. That's a crazy thing. Puerto Rico.

Oh, that's, why is that 33 hours? That's over the Bermuda Triangle, isn't it? I am flying in three hours to go there. I'm 33 out of the funny. No, no, no. I leave in three hours. I actually need to leave here. You're flying on the Roberto Clemente Express.

That's, I think that's the same flight he was on. You're about to hop on a plane and you just said planes don't crash? Yeah, they don't. I wouldn't get on them if they did. I fucking love it. Every time I had, I used to have a group chat where every time I left on a plane, like it was like all the homies and like, you know, a bunch of like females that I enjoy. And I used to like send GIFs of planes crashing.

I was like, all, I'm hopping on a plane. And they're like, why the fuck would you do that, man? It's funny. And you're just laughing to yourself on the plane hitting airplane mode. He was like, Ha! He got him. Funny.

Hope you're playing no crash though, Bigsy. Yeah. Me too. So, uh, I would say, I was going to say, like, being defeated by your own son would be my choice because there's, I don't know, some like Shakespearean about that. Like, if your son wants to take you out, he's the only one because you gave him the power to do so, can eliminate you? I don't know.

I'll beat that guy. I'll beat that little leag ass. And so I'm saying you have the opportunity to defeat your own son. What? you think he's little what if he like grows up he's bigger than you then you're like a lion that sees at no at no point can my son whoop me and the moment he can he deserves it that's kind of what i'm saying but i don't want to get taken out by because he's just like what's you boy named sue uh avery if you had if you had uh immortal life if you

were immortal, except there was one thing that could kill you. What would you choose that one thing to be? A shark because then I just wouldn't go in the ocean. Okay. Another good one. Why is everyone avoiding water? Like, going to the beach is fun.

Trash. Shark attacks aren't like they don't happen that much. So, yeah, they're uncommon. Also extremely avoidable. Yes. Just go swimming a lake. Yeah, stay out of the water. So I'll be a lake guy

It might be the most avoidable thing ever are sharks Don't go in the fucking water Arean, are you a lake guy though? Could you be a lake? That is water I know but there's no sharks and lakes There's alligators, there's piranhas There's other shit that can swim

And I'm not the best at it So I just avoid all aquatic activities If I couldn't die Because I chose Well, oh shh oh oh the suicides got a double-edged sword because like what if you just accidentally like what if you're like yo I can't die I'm gonna jump off this building yeah and it's like it's technically killing yourself sneaky you just did it yeah well again

just don't do that but yeah well I don't know what I would choose because like going like doing crazy stuff because you think you're invincible that's self-destructive so you have to be like self-administered cyanide it's the only thing that can yo as the show has gone on like Billy Zipper has gone further and further down

well it's gotten hotter well I mean someone maintained Christmas abs did you guys did you guys I didn't all Christmas no abs fuck damn

but we I thought we re-initiated the pack for Super Bowl. Quitters. Quitters. It's Super Bowl abs. Well, you can just get more. Quitters. No, because I'm. And we can't even see.

Let's see the abs. Let's see the abs. Oh, no. You called my bluff. Yeah, you don't have them. I got decent ones. I got four. I'm on track for Super Bowl abs.

I'm on track for Super Bowl abs as well. Maybe. I don't know. I've actually never had abs before. I wish I was a blank. So this would be my first experience with abdominal. muscles that are that are visible from the outside. I always had just a nice little layer of padding there.

Let's do it. I see you, guys. I see you. I don't heard of Billy. Billy abs. Well, we will see you guys, not next week, because we're off next week. Next year. We'll see you next year.

How about that? See in 23, except for Big T, who's about to die in a plane crash. No, don't put that energy out there. You put it out there. You put it out there. No, planes don't crash, dude. We're fine. Oh, God.

Okay. We're going to do a best-up version, though. So next week, we'll have a. best of macrodosing 22. Big T's this show kills people. Now that's a point I hadn't considered.

Yeah, dude. But now, but now if you say sometimes planes crash, that's just as bad. Well, also, if Big T dies today, the show goes crazy tomorrow. Good point. Downloads, views. Like, I don't want Big Tee to die.

Well, I'll take one for the team, dog. Oh, let's make some agreement. Engagements. Everybody's a little too eager. No, no. Big Tee. Big T. I brought to you by 3G.

Big T. if you die you have to haunt the podcast and like just try to get in the electrical system and like like whisper messages like what and then we only find it in the recording comes out i'll just tell you to hit more buttons if you die man if you die like communicate me quickly like what's happening on the side you know what i'm saying like do some useful like write it in in in ashes from a fire or some shit like yo there's really nothing on this side yeah like let us know Also come back to roast Billy for sure

I had some pact with my buddies that Like we'd prank each other from the after life Like open the fridge and like oh And it's just a smearing off ice and you're like Fuck I just got iced by ghost Yeah Whole crew like that huh Yeah

This is other other versions of Billy That it's short Billy Stout Like the Eagles wide receivers with Batman Yeah Muscular Billy Come in all shapes and sizes. Who's muscular, Billy?

You met him. Oh, yeah, it's definitely not you. All right. No, no, you have. Yeah, no, I actually have. All right, we'll see you guys for best of next week. And then we'll be back full speed in the new year in 2023. So we love you guys.

Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanza. Happy Festivist. Boxing day. Happy boxing day to all those who celebrate. And we will see you.

you guys next year. Even Big T. He will still be here. He's going to make it. Love you guys.