Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Cryptids

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew talks about a plethora of different cryptids and the history that comes with them. Everyone made sure to go in-depth on the favorite cryptids of their choosing. From the Jersey Devil to Bigfoot, you'll hear it all. Billy has been waiting a long time for this one. Also, hear about a brand NEW segment of Macrodosing coming soon and how Arian got into a twitter fight with Darren Rovell. All of this and more on the show. You don't want to miss it.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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We're doing it on Thursday. It's Thursday morning. Do not adjust your calendars. We were not in the office on Monday. We were celebrating Labor Day. To all those who celebrate, hope you had a safe and happy holiday weekend. But we're back. We got the whole squad.

We got Avery. We got Mad Dog, Big T, Billy, myself, Koli, Arian. Right off the bat, I want to just, I want to clear something up here. Right now, Aaron Foster is. trending on Twitter. Aaron, did you know that you were trending today? What the fuck? What, and I ain't been on.

Put an alarmed face. Yeah, you're trending. And it's my fault. I'm sorry. I got you trending on Twitter. Accidentally, completely accidentally. Because this morning, I saw that the Texans got rid of their cornerback, Roeby. And I was thinking, like, besides the running backs and the quarterback, I don't think I can name

a single player on the Houston Texans. So I challenged people to name a single current. Houston Texans player and so many people guessed your name because they have no idea who's on the Houston Texans that your name started a trend. You memed me into trending? Well, I didn't even know that was going to happen, but it just turns out that nobody knows shit about the Houston Texans right now. Yeah, I keep it a buck when I first, when I first signed to them, I didn't know anything.

But the only person I knew was Andre Johnson. Like, it was the only person I knew. And that was because he was like a all pro. But, like, other than that, I had no idea who was on the team. Like, I didn't have a clue. It was you. You played with Fitsy for a while, right? Fitzpatrick.

Yeah, I played with him for a year. Yeah, for a year. Word on the street is he's piped up. Can you confirm or deny? What is piped up, me? Hanging hog. Hanging, yeah. Hung like a can of cream corn.

Um, I don't remember his junk. Okay. I'm okay. I actually hope that he's not hung like a rhino because you can't go to Harvard, be a good athlete, and also have a huge dick, and be funny and have that great beard. Like, it's that old meme, like, one's got to go. One's got to go. God, got smashed X on the huge dick button. Yeah, I don't remember his junk, man.

Sorry. All right. That'll be a weekly segment, I think, on macrodosing. Hey, what was this guy's dick like here? No He's like, please, no, I'm awesome We're already pushing the mole with Big T's underwear, man That's already getting weird

That's true, that's the fact Big T, how are you feeling today? I feel great, how are you all? Also feeling great Let's get a vibe check just around the room real quick Coley, how are we doing? I'm great I am hyped for today's episode

I think we got a banger in the books today Banger in the books you heard We're finally doing cryptids, something that was in the title sequence for the podcast, but we just have never done yet. Cryptids are something that are very near and true to my heart. Yeah. So have you, you strike me as a kind of guy that, um, you, maybe you went looking for cryptids when you were younger.

On the internet. On the internet. I was very limited in scope of the cryptids in a driving radius from myself. So if you are, uh, if you're not familiar with the term cryptids, Cryptids, it's like cryptozoology. It's the study of animals that are rumored to exist that some people say do not exist. Did I get that right, Billy? Yep.

Want anything to add to it? It is a great study and a part of academia that gets very overlooked time after time after time, even though it has the most anecdotal evidence. Is it actually part of academia? Not recognized by some merited colleges, but to those truly who study it, it is quite the course load yeah so uh i'm pumped to have this mad dog how you doing i'm good how are you guys great good great you sound very friendly today avery yeah very friendly i'm pumped i think we we're gonna have a great episode and i and there's also something that we haven't talked about yet because we learned about it but we're going to be doing something else too for the podcast that that's

a little bit exciting for new listeners and current listeners as well yes can we go ahead and say it yeah we could say it we're going to start doing 10 minute episodes as like something for new listeners we're going to release them later in the week so now you get two different aspects of macro dosing and i think we're going to do voicemails and we're also going to do uh little topics whether it's segments or something you know we're just going to throw different things at you guys and see what see see what work so i was just thinking we could call it mini doses yep you do mini dose micro micro micro That was a small sample-sized doses. That right there was a major Antonio Clown-Clon-Tonio-Brown situation where the answer was right in front of my face.

C-spear and I didn't see-spear or so, yeah. What about a small doses? Doses and mimoses. How are you doing? You good? I'm doing exceptionally well, actually. Today's a good one, man, so. Exceptional.

And, yeah, Valerent came out with a new patch today. There's a new map. And there's rumblings of a new agent being added. So I'm excited about that. They finally, they nerfed Killjoy's turn. And that shit is fucking annoying. So I'm happy for that. Sad for all the Killjoin's out there.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, this is probably like, what the fuck are you talking about? But if you play Valorant, yeah, I'm your guy. What's Valorant? Is it like a first-person shooter? Yeah, it's FPS, but it's like, So it's like, Overwatch meets CSGO. So it's cats, like with agents or, you know, the player you select has different type of, different abilities.

Like you can throw smokes. One can build a wall. One can teleport, whatever the case may be. And but it's like a real live action. So it's not like Call of Duty where you have to sit there and spray. It's like if you pop him in the head, he had it. Yeah. It's like real gunplay.

And so it's like those two mixed and you have to plan a spike. It's really growing rapidly in a second. It's my favorite game. I spend most of my time doing that, actually. It's chaos to watch. Absolutely chaos. How many people play at a time? It's 5.5, so 10 total.

All right, that sounds good. I might have to get involved in this. That might be, like, if we want to start a Twitch account for the show, maybe I'll learn the game, hop on the sticks with you. And then you have to carry me. Well, I'll tell you this. I will carry you. I will carry you.

I'm gold three on my main. I have two smirfs. I'm gold three. That sounds impressive. I'm going to trust you on that one. Two Smurfs. Wow. You can't be sand smurf.

You can't be smirfs. Is that too many smirfs, though? A smurf account is for like a lower account. Like, it's, because once you start getting higher, right, once you get, like, more skilled, it's harder to play with your friends who play it casually. And so it's a lower account so that you can play with them and it'll still be fun without dealing with, like,

toxic, racist, trolls. God damn they're out there. Quick question. Are there more of those trolls in the higher accounts or lower accounts? I would say lower. Because I think once you get higher, they take it more seriously. But, I mean, they still there. I don't get to be wrong.

And it only comes out when you start losing. If you winning, it's kumbaya. But if you lose it and you have a bad game because everybody has a bad game, right? It's, what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? You fucking done. It just gets worse as you lose. Yeah.

Yeah, I will definitely play with you I stink at video games I've gotten a couple dubs in war zone Just because I'm very very good at ratting Like just being a complete piece of shit Camping camping Yeah But I'll get like four kills

But there'll be kills that like I I set myself up in the right position You'll never find me out of position I'm like a slow white tight end Right Like I'm not going to run away from it You can't expect me to make any real plays But I'm going to be your safety outlet pass

and I'll always be, I'll be where I'm supposed to be and not a step further. Point blank with 10. There you go. I had one other thing I wanted to get into today before we. Oh, you know what I want to talk about? What, Bill?

You guys see that story about the family in the Sierra National Forest that like just, they shut down that section of National Forest, but like they can't figure out why this whole family and their dog all just died? No. Yeah. I mean, we got to do it.

an episode on this one day, but National Forest stuff, but this has been in the news. So there was a couple that was backpacking. They were like very experienced in, you know, being in nature. They backpacked in the Himalayas, rent camels through the goby deserts, you know, Burning Man. They had their own hashtag. They're like travel bloggers. So they ended up being in the Sierra National Forest and they just found them all dead and the government has shut down the national park indefinitely to investigate what's going on. So, I mean, no one's really sure. But the weird thing is is the dog is also actually dead, which is...

Aaron, you were in California last week, right? I was. I very much was. All right. Interesting. I'm not saying anything about the family. I definitely did not kill them. Shoes on the other foot now, huh? Hey, man.

It's well-known. I don't like dogs. If you want to try to link me to that murder, it's not the worst thing. Okay. So they think it may have to do with toxic algae blooms in the area, but, you know, there's a lot of speculation. There's that could just be a cover up. There's always been stories of these feral humans in national parks and just like people who just live out there because, you know, out of the scope of the government, former felons, people who escaped prison. So, you know, that's also a possibility.

That's a little more to the conspiracy theory. But, you know, I think it would be definitely something that we should keep an eye on. So the algae blooms, they create carbon monoxide, right? Yeah. And you'll see some, there's some lakes that have areas of, like, wildlife and trees around them that are all dead because the lake every now and again will admit just like a giant cloud of poison. Yeah.

It's like out from the lake out of nowhere. That shit's scary. But it's also like, I don't know. You can't really get close enough to study it that much, right? Right. But also, when you're outside, like a strong wind blows, like you should be able to get some oxygen to figure it out. Yeah.

Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, we should definitely, we should do some research. Do your own research into that. So for next week, when we're doing the mini-dosing or the micro-dosing episode, we're just, so I think the plan is we're going to record that as we record the rest of the show, then we'll hang on to that, release that separately as like a specialized segment. Is that what we're thinking, Avery?

Yeah, I think that's probably the best approach. I'm assuming it'll probably be on, You know, we'll usually release on Tuesday. So, yeah, I'd say probably Thursday or Friday it'll come out. Okay. I liked that little mini dose. Yeah. I was, so it's obviously 9-11 coming up this week in the 20th anniversary.

Just say micro. Why are you so opposed to? Yeah, microdose. You're kissing me off and you said, the mini-dose? I just went over. Mini micro? Okay. Mini microdose.

But it's, so I was just going to say it's going to be the 20th anniversary, 9-11. I don't feel like that would be. like the conspiracies around that i don't feel like that would be good for a mini segment that's something that we probably that's got me a full episode because there's a lot of crazy shit out there that's how and a lot of stuff a lot of conspiracies that are actually true about what happened on that day and leading up to that day that would be that would almost be like a two-parter that we would have to do also i feel like doing that on the anniversary it does like i don't know at least in my eyes it kind of minimizes with people that were in and around it when they went through

on that day like that's their time that they remember that they discuss what happened and then uh and then we can you know obviously discuss it but i don't want to take away from what's going to be like a really sad day for a lot of those people uh for just really like a lot of america uh that has that has to go back and kind of relive that but i do feel like it's a subject that we should get into uh in the near future it's it's big darren rovel energy to do it the day out yeah yeah exactly like i'm not trying to monetize 9-11 does that make sense it's you're Yo, who is Darren Doreen or Dan Ravelle? I'm so envious of you, Eric.

Yeah. You are the luckiest man on earth. Well, the only reason why he came across my radio because somebody had, like, quote, tweeted something and it had that little link on it, and I clicked on it and said, I blocked by him, but I have no idea what it is. Darren Ravelle blocks you?

Yeah, I don't even know who that is, though. Oh, that's such a Darren Rovell move. Big T, can you look up? Can you just do like a search of any time that Arian has interacted with Darren to see if we can get to the, bottom of this, because I'm hoping it's like when Billy got blocked by the CRISPR dude for repeatedly asking you to engineer a larger frog. I'm hoping that there's something, something, you know,

I'm just going to guess that Aaron, you probably got mad at Darren because Darren probably covered that program that you were in that you helped start the business when you were one of the first athletes that could sell your future earnings as stock. Oh, yeah, yeah. My guess is that Darren probably had some things to say about that because that's like right in his wheelhouse so the only thing i'm seeing right now is from 2014 darenneville tweeted NFL beer sponsor anheiser bush issues a strong statement and it's talking about we're not yet satisfied with leaks handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our own company culture moral code yada gotta wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait so anheiser bush the company that makes beer that kills like hundreds of thousands of people

worldwide. Yes. I don't know the exact stats. Probably the most deadly product. They were like, we condemn Roger Goodell's handling of the elevator incident. We are disappointed. Oh, so that is what it is. Your friends at Anheiser-Bush are against any sort of abuse of relationships.

We are disappointed and increasingly concerned by the recent incidents that have overshadowed this NFL season. We're not satisfied with the league's handling. We've shared our concerns and expectations with the league. Arian quoted that and said, LOL, OK, alcohol, company. that's the only thing I can find where he tweeted Darren Ravel That's like when Lockheed Martin was like

We strongly condemn the violence In the Armed Forces Bowl last year After there was that fight Yeah, that's the only one I see That pissed me off So hold on so just dim it to that real quick Because that and for those of those that are talking about They're talking about the Ray Rice incident

Where he had there was a domestic violence issue Right and I take domestic violence very seriously because I grew up in a domestically violent household, right? And so when that shit happened, I wrote a letter to Roger Goodell and I told him like, yo, y'all are dropping the ball on this because what you're doing is you're shunning somebody, right, who, who there's a, I'm not saying his suspension should have been warranted, right? But what you're doing is you're shunning him and you're refusing to talk about the actual issue, right? Because it's not just NFL players that go through it. Police officers have high rates of domestic violence, firefighters, ex-military

a congressman it's all oh it's a it's a global but most domestically it's a it's a it's a national issue right and that could have been a huge opportunity to talk about domestic violence in a part where the whole nation was talking about it and they all they did was just try to sweep it under the rug and like no we don't we don't we don't we don't want to talk about it but like no dog they totally dropped the ball on that shit and all that everybody around it was just like just doing shit like that just like virtue signaling about how wrong it is and like it's it's a family issue that is like very deeply rooted in who I am that I'm very passionate about. And I was just, I was just upset by how the whole situation was handled.

Like, and Ray Rex was a good, very good friend of mine, but it was like, oh, that was just bullshit, man. But I don't know. I had to go off my little rent. No, no. I appreciate that because it did, it is almost like impossible to parody Anheuser-Busch. Like the product, if you think of, if there's one, if there's one product that's most closely linked to domestic violence situations across the country,

beer would probably be one or two behind our delivery. It's just alcohol. So, yeah, it's ridiculous that every company was trying to cash in and be like, yeah, we're a good company too. Yeah. Because Roger Goodell didn't, like, review that videotape of Ray Rice in the elevator. And the hypocrisy behind it wasn't that he got suspended, is that he got suspended beforehand.

And then when the tape resurfaced, right, TMZ, you, by the way, TMZ is like the fucking they're just like big brother. They are fucking everywhere. They get everything. It's insane. Anyway, so when they finally released the video, that's when they decided to suspend him indefinitely.

Like, you had already seen the video. So it's not a moral issue. It's a public perception issue. And that's what I took issue with. And I was like, y'all are idiots. And I told him that. And that's another thing, too. How the fuck can I get?

And at the time, I'm a pro baller. Like, how the fuck can I get a hold of, Roger Goodell, dog. Like, I shot, call him, called the offices. I called, I called the NFLPA. I was like, yo, like, I got to touch with this dude. And then they had the nerd to be like, what do you need to talk to him for? Oh, shit, the motherfucker out of here.

Like, get his number. We work at the same company. I'd like to talk. That's how, that's what I was, like, kind of off the NFL general, though, so. Yep. Anywho. That does feel like it was ages ago, doesn't it? 2014.

Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was almost 10. Almost 10 years ago, bro. That's true. Time. It's wild how time works. We should do an episode on time because that shit is actually fascinating.

Okay. I'm in. It'll just be like an hour of us talking about like how long ago certain events were. And then whether or not they're closer to other events. Yeah, we did that last episode. Cleopatra and Taco Bell. Yeah. Yeah.

Now you're really going to blow my mind. The other thing I wanted to talk about today real quick before we get into cryptids, I think that at this company, we should try to recreate the Milgram experiment. do you guys know what the milgram experiment was i don't the milgram experiment i was listening to a podcast the other day i've heard of this thing before but it kind of refreshed my memory the milgram experiment was uh when they they got students at a college at yale and they brought them in under the pretense of we're going to select you to either be a teacher or a student and uh but they were all given the assignment of teacher but they thought that they were given that assignment at random

They were put in a chair, and then they had another person walked into the room, strapped down to a chair, hooked up to electrodes, and then put behind a screen. And the administrator of the experiment would tell the student, you have to memorize these words that correspond to these other words. It's a memory test. When you get it wrong, the teacher will administer a 15-volt shock, a light shock to correct you. And then if you get two in a row wrong, that increases to like 30 volts. And the person sitting in the chair,

they thought that they were just like being told what to do by somebody that was running this experiment. They didn't know that the electrodes were actually not hooked up. It was all to see how far somebody would go just in the name of following orders. Just because an authority person told you that you need to shock this person. And some people had got to the point. I think like 60% of the people went all the way to the end, which like I think it was a 500 volt shock that they were administering. And the person behind the screen was like yelling out loud and they would pass out after it got up to 500 volts and stop responding entirely.

Then they had to get shocked again. And I think that would be interesting to try to see who here at this company would go the furthest. Like who would be the ones that would stand up and say, no, this isn't right. So I didn't remember the name of the study when you first said it. But I actually remember listening to the audio and because they play the same audio for every person. so the shocking and the guy yelling me like out oh that was bad that was bad yeah and then he suddenly you know it starts yelling really loud asking for stop and then just silence and they're still shocking him and it's just silence and then they played some reactions and the person shocked he's like

is he okay i mean what should we do and it's very if we find the audio maybe splice it in here and there it's it's loud it's like it's painful to listen to it's not just like some no i'm sorry i was just saying like i didn't know the name of like But there's actually a movie about this, too, as well. And that shit is actually fascinating and just like the psychology behind it. It's like a moral test to see how far you would go, like you said, like authority, which is, it's a fascinating shit. And so if the person started to object, like the person that was doing the shocking, they're like, do I have to? There were four things that the administrator could say to them.

The first was, please continue. The second. And then most people just by hearing somebody go, please. continue, most people would go, okay, I guess I'll, I guess I'll shock him again. The second was the experiment requires that you continue. And then if they objected a second time to it, it is absolutely essential that you continue. And then if they said no, a third time, they would say, you have no other choice. You must go on. And most people just ended up going along with it, just through those words. Jesus. I actually think that this experiment probably

would have different results if it was conducted nowadays why because i feel that the youth is a lot you know like the successive generations are a lot softer in a lot more questioning of billy's literally using the bad boy pistons argument in yeah no i'm serious i think i don't think so man i don't think so i think i think it depends on what i think you would have to tweak the test right because that worked back in the 60s or 70s or whenever it's done. But you tweak the test into like, I mean, think about it, fam.

Like, everybody has like a podcast, a TikTok page, an Instagram page, and everybody has relatively like the same content. Like, we're all just doing what everybody's telling us to do now. Like, it's just the same. I do believe that this generation

is way less capable of violence and dissociating from emotion. But even using your argument, if we're a softer generation in your own words, they're much more subservient and going to listen. I think we're going to get a higher number of people shocking. More, uh, what's the word? More, they're more rebelling in less tolerant of authority, but they're less emotionally, what's the word? Well, I think you'd have to tweak it for sure. I think if you made it more along the lines of what a black mirror episode would look like, where you're taking away somebody's like, I don't know, like a Yelp review of a restaurant or something like that.

Or you're like removing followers from somebody's account. That would probably, people would be more likely to do that, I think. I don't know. I don't know. But I bet you there is a difference. There is a change over the generations. I just don't know what that change is going to be because you're all brought up in different environments.

Yeah. Yeah. But I think this one is actually more, like Coley said, it's actually more subservient. But it's just they serve a different master. Like we served like I was in my generation was more like authority like meant something like you do what you're told like that type of thing like this generation doesn't really do that they're like more of like the social zeitgeist like that's their that's their king that's their right yeah I was like how people pile on so like if it wasn't one by one if everyone were in the room simultaneously I think all it would take is one to shift the entire room one way or the other it would be a good one would be actually have you ever seen that movie I forget it. it is where it's like when um they look there was like a serial killer he would hook somebody up to like let's say this this this like contractment where there was like mad like lights no no no there was like a whole bunch of lights right and and he like put it out on the internet and said

if nobody watches this this person won't die but more more like when you watch it you turn in the lights get brighter and bright and brighter until it finally burns the person to death but all all people have to do is not watch it and the cat won't die die, but more and more people tune in, and it's just like, it's like watching a train wreck and all of a sudden a dude dies, but it would have, something like that, I guarantee would show that it's probably worse nowadays than it was back then. That's a crazy concept. I kind of like it.

I do think there's way more. No, I kind of like, it's, I kind of like that concept for a movie, yeah. If I was the off somebody, it would be like that. No, but it's like when they put a parental advisory sticker on the cover of an album, does that make anybody want to buy it less. No, it makes me want to buy it like 10 times more. In fact, once I buy one of those, I look at the next one. I'm like, oh, they don't cuss as much in this one, this album's soft. Real quick, this is a really interesting tidbit because I got a couple albums out. And naturally, I wanted to put the parental advisory sticker on there. So I did my first

one. The second one, I didn't have any cursors on it. But like the first one I did. And the second one, I didn't. So you look into the history of that. It was merely to propagate traffic into into your album. So people studied it and said that that label it's not required by any law. Like you do not have to put that on your on your album. But people do

people did it originally because that was like controversial and that drummed up and incited people to come and want to listen to your album which is fucking wild. And people still do it today like my last time of my release I took it off because it fucked up the artwork. I didn't know I didn't even know that I had an option until I actually looked into it. I was like there's no law

I was like, fuck this shit. The word I was looking for is empathetic and I can't believe I didn't think of it. But I do believe that this generation in the society as a whole American society at least is a lot more empathetic. Like for example, have you ever listened to some of like Eminem's like Slim Shady LP stuff like Kim? Like I remember listening. Yeah, you like the old stuff. Remember? Yeah.

No, it's like, it's like you couldn't play that for. any like person today in them just be like yeah it's just music like they'd be like that's my we can talk music all you want my counter to you saying we're more empathetic would be the last 18 months yeah like in the 1960s when this experiment happened there was another there was a a pandemic that occurred that never was really looked at and people died and like no one really they just let it run its course right we're doing that now is my point What do you mean? I mean, everyone kind of hates each other now.

Yeah, we like have... I see your mask, Jim, than they've ever been as I'm speaking. I actually think that if people just log off for a few days, their degree of hatred for their fellow man goes way, way down. I think the internet now is like, it's almost reached that point where it's a net negative. And I say that as somebody who relies almost entirely. I know Aaron disagrees, but like, things are getting bad.

Things are getting bad in this country right now. where most people, I think, get along fine as long as they're cut off from whatever their most incendiary source of information is that gets them angry looking at a screen all day. If they cut that out out of their lives, most people in general day to day are friendly and happy to be around each other

and care about their fellow person if they see somebody like in need on the street and they haven't been told in their brains for the last, you know, like two days constantly, like that person on the street is your enemy. They kind of, they start to forget that. the longer they go without seeing that that incendiary, like, rhetoric. I would just, just to argue the point, because I hear that a lot on the Internet,

that, like, the Internet's bad and it's just like, but it's just when you're on the Internet, just like you said, right? If you look at the actual statistics, like crime rate is down, like, you know, comparatively to historical, so crime rate, murder, all abortions, high school dropouts, like, all of this shit is down. The only thing that's up, like Trent, and it always goes like this, but generally the averages are all down. But the only thing that's up is depression and suicide rates. And like that's telling me, it's just saying, you're spending too much time comparing yourself to other people.

There's a part of the internet too where it's almost like we, because when I hear you say like when you log off, it's easier to be around people. It's like, yeah, because you don't know as much about that person. like people put so much of their own lives on the internet. It's almost like we almost have to keep going deeper into it to get to the other side because I don't think we can. It's almost like white people thought racism, racism died until Ferguson happened. And then it was like, well, where's all this been? No, it didn't die. It was just people were doing it quietly in their homes, like to themselves.

And now it's back out on Broad Street. And it's like, well, we have this new racism problem. No, we don't. People are just talking about it more. Racists feel emboldened to be racist. So it's like, yeah, it's easier to be around people when you know way less about them. But I almost think we have to just fucking get through it. It's almost like a societal war.

Like we just have to get through it. Someone's going to win. Someone's going to lose. And then on the other side of it. Like, yeah, we'll be able to reset from there. I think we just, we need an entire movement like in the 60s where everybody just gets high for six years. And they're like, I think we solved it just by taking a collection. trip. You should come with me, bro. One of my good friends is Neil Brennan. And for people

that don't know, Neil Brennan is, he was the co-writer of the Chappelle Show. It's like a brilliant comedian. He has one of the most brilliant stand-ups I've ever seen three mics. But anyway, he hit me one day. It was like, yo, you need to try Iowa. And like, I had always known about it or whatever, but he like told me his experience recently. And the reason why he told me I reached out to him because he was on the breakfast club with Charlemagne in there. And he said, that he was no longer atheist that when he experienced what he experienced on this

on his drug or this hallucinogen that it changed his belief in a higher power and he was explained it to me it still sounded kooky and he was like dog I'm telling

I know it sounds kooky but it's just something you have to experience I'm all for it I would love to see the eyes of the creator if there is one but you should

do it with me dog it's a ceremony like you do it with a shaman like you do it around like you make sure that you're in a comfortable environment i told him i'm not doing it without him because like he's the one to introduce me he's like it's all good and uh he's always inviting people it would be fun if y'all if y'all at all any of y'all but like p and t if you want to rock that should be fun so i i've heard about ayahuasca before my my big concern about is i i was down in ecuador like 10 years ago i think and i went on a trip through the rainforest and the local

guy there he was a kichua guy and his family had been in that area of the rainforest for generations he walked us by the ayahuasca route pointed out to us he's like this is the tree that you boil you make the tea and then people drink it you hallucinate i was like have you ever tried it he goes fuck no he was like he was like none of the locals ever try this shit it's just people that's that's what that come from outside the country there's like one or two shamans that you know they're they're known for making it and so they'll take it occasionally but he was telling me that nobody from that actual area does i've heard that it's really beneficial if you addiction problems or if there's something that you're trying to overcome like significant

trauma in your past you're trying to move on i've heard it can be good but i also heard that people just they do it recreationally you know like a couple times a year and just turns them it turns them nuts but again like i don't think that there's been any real studies done on on iawaska also like you may see god but you also may see the devil and that's a that's a coin flip that you know might not be worth it good point you might see that make a product cool is here You might see it cryptid. Well, the stories might be true. Yeah.

You might see an animal walking around in the rainforest that you didn't think actually existed. All right, we're getting into cryptids. Before we do, bird dogs, bird dogs, bird dogs, shorts. Bird dog shorts are the best shorts in the entire world. I'm wearing my bird dog's swimsuit shorts actually right now as we speak. Scott, let's see. What's on this?

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I love that. But if you, so we were all talking about different cryptids that we could look up for today's show. Do you want to just get in real quick to yours? Yeah, there were two. I mean, there are a lot that I felt like I knew and had heard of. But when I was actually like digging into it a little bit, I wanted to find a local one to me where I grew up. And then I found one in Ireland, too, that I thought was pretty interesting. but um the local one was the the dover demon dover mass uh like super if i'm if i'm remembering

correctly because i'm not from there obviously but like very affluent area like crazy like i'm pretty sure ernie bock juniors lives out there which no one on this show knows what that means but he owns like every car dealership in new england so he's one of the richest people alive And it's like there were three different people. What I haven't been able to find is if these people knew each other prior to these sightings because they were all like 15, 17 from the same town. So I don't know if the Boston Globe just did a shit job actually reporting this story because it doesn't really say if they were like friends or could have concocted this story together. but like a lot of these like all at night glowing eyes uh like round ted it kind of sounds like zah when he was talking about his encounter with with aliens in zimbabwe and it's really

interesting to me that this happened only in april of 1977 and really hasn't been any sighting since i almost feel like that gives it more validity than less when you hear about bigfoot with like a hundred years straight of people have seen Bigfoot. That doesn't add up to me. One week where this guy was hanging around posted up on like a gargoyle on different walls

and just like jumping on a car to scare someone and then running off. Like that almost makes it seem more real to me. Like yeah, this guy was out here. These people aren't immortals. He was here for a little bit. Three people caught him and that was it. He'd vanished into the night.

I think that adds some validity to it. I kind of agree with that because if it was a hoax, and let's just say you had like a costume or whatever and you put it on and you went out and you fooled a series of kids one weekend, it made all the news. You were in the fucking, what did you say? The Boston Globe? Yeah. Yeah, they did like an investigative report. You would probably want to lay low for a little bit, but you'd be riding so high off the thrill of that one weekend that you, that you doped the Boston Globe that at some point like five, ten years in the future, you'd look at that costume hanging up in your claws and you'd be like, what if I just ran it back one time you know like you you would think about bringing like a

even Harper Lee wrote to kill a mockingbird then she dropped that shit to kill a watchman on us a couple years ago like you can't be a hermit forever you know if you pull something off like that I don't I don't see anybody just walking away from the from the cryptic game from the fraud game and not coming back later on to try to see if they still got the magic yeah that's like doing heroin three times and being like not for me like That's just not how it works. Yeah. It must be such a rush, though, to, like, fake a bunch of kids out and scare them.

I had somebody tell me about cocaine that, actually. It's hilarious. I was like, if you ever done cocaine, I was like, yeah, I've done it like five times. And it's like that's like that's my thing. I'm like, five, five, you did it five times and it's not your thing. Like, how did you come to that conclusion so fast? I'm going to take that person's side with cocaine on. If we were talking about something else, like,

I don't know. I did it for like four months. It wasn't for me. I also feel like if you say about five times when it comes to cocaine, you have to do Coke math. It's like when you ask your girlfriend, like, seriously, how many, how many dudes? What's your number? I think it's like times, times six is probably the accurate Coke math on that.

If you say you've done it five times, you probably done it 30. I know this off topic, but that's a serious question I've always pondered. Should you or should you not ask your girl, well, her number is. Why would you ever want to have that conversation? No. Why? She doesn't want to know about you. What's the benefit? There's no good outcomes. Yeah. I agree with that I was just wondering because I've seen a lot. Like it can deteriorate a man's soul for some reason, right? But like, and if she was to ask your number, it's like, oh, it's like a hundred times that or whatever. You know what I mean? And it doesn't, it's not the same thing to yet. It's not to say, well,

our mind is you for sure. I have definitely, I've definitely lived a life. That's for sure. What's higher, your credit score or your body count? Don't answer that. The better question is, are you happy in the relationship? Billy, look at introspective Billy. What about like, you're growing up, man. Yeah, dude. That's, it's a very, right before our eyes.

It's a very healthy way to think about a relationship, Billy. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I do not, for the record, I do not think that men should ask that of the women. it's none of your fucking business but two it's not going to do nothing for you doggy like it's just going to sit in the back of your mind well who are they and that's going to lead to that and it's going to say it's going to be a bad

it's going to be bad man don't do it so the dover devil that's just a is that what it's called the demon the demon demon that's a cool name it is it is and it's like what's really fucked up is the guy the first kid who reported it I believe he was

17 the first one yeah the first one one, Bill Bartlett. He was the first one who, like, reported it. All three of the kids who had the sightings had to, like, draw it very much like Zad and all his classmates, like, had to draw it. And he signed his drawing, I swear, on a stack of Bibles, which Massachusetts, 1977 meant, like, you can gun me down in the streets if I'm lying.

like you there's nothing more sacred than the bible in massachusetts in 1977 he was like i swear on a stack of bibles that this is what exactly what i saw um and when they entered they interviewed him in 2006 and he said then like i wish i just never said anything because he's still he like he's terrified of Halloween because of how many calls he gets like people you can't google his name without Dover demon coming up like it's home he's almost the most haunted by a potential fake thing of all time like this thing has followed him without actually following him for 40 50 years now yeah you'd almost rather everybody else have seen it you know you think it was just the jersey devil on vacation he was up there for a patriots game yeah just hit not he had some family in the area

the jets the jets were plague let's see when is this it was april 21st so probably not in a way game but maybe he's summer maybe he was on his way out to the cape watching the Celtics yeah Bill Bartlett Celtics were terrible in 7-8 were they

Jersey Devil is another weird one has a lot of similar uh similar connotations as the Dover dima but actually it has its origins in a mother leads his 13th child basically on a farmhouse

this woman had 13 children and the 13th came out with bat wings and was the color of charcoal and was just like some demon baby and then it grew up to be the Jersey Devil. They said they like tried to get rid of the body but ended up just being a devil. So did it fly?

Apparently. All the sightings of the Jersey Devils flies around the swamps of Jersey and like a lot of people see it. But very similar to the Dover demon. Does that anything to do with the the name of the hockey team yeah yeah

garbage team garbage trash franchise trash organization whoa whoa whoa what is the I don't understand the haste what is it oh no just because we both root

for different teams that play against the devil's a lot there's really no reason I'm from who's your team who's your team Avery is a Rangers fan I'm a Caps fan got you

I'm from Jersey all my friends are devil's fans I fucking hate them they're awful yeah it's real It's real animosity. But actually, no, I was going to go on a hockey tangent, but go ahead.

I was going to ask Billy about the New Jersey devil a little bit more. Why did they ever do anything bad to anybody? Why are people afraid of it? It's just flying around, big wings, creeping people out. So it's like a giant bat. Yeah, it's a giant bat. So basically it's supposed to look exactly like, you know, goat's head, bat wings, forked tail, growling and screaming. The child beat everyone with its tail before flying up the chimney and heading to the pines.

In some versions of the tale, Mother Leeds was supposedly a witch, and the child's father was the devil. So I think it's right in there with like early colonial witchcrafts, them, witch trials type stuff. So, hey, but, you know, I think it was just scaring people. It could have probably been an owl. You know, because, you know, that's, I'm, I'm, you know, I try to find the logical explanation when I can't for certain cryptids, then I'm like, that's a goddamn cryptid. That's real. but owls actually have shown to be a lot of explanations for stuff at night because their wingspans are much larger than people think and when they swoop towards you there's a lot of distance spatial recognition like you think it's a lot farther than you but it's closer so it looks bigger and also baby owls look exactly like aliens yeah owls are really trippy animals yeah and when they dive at you at night or dive near you, the sound that their wings make, that's enough to like spook you

a little bit too. Because like it can be really, really silent. Then they get close and you hear the sound of those wings flapping. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. There were owls that lived next to me when I lived in Austin. We had these owl boxes set up in this park right by my house. And so, uh, they would, they would be there during the day. You'd hear them like around dusk and start to do their little hoots. And then they would go hunting at night. They're crazy animals. I feel like we don't, we don't respect owls enough as a society. ever had an owl encounter actually you probably think it was a devil when it swooped down it's like one of those things that is comparatively you don't think they're that big in person

like a moose and then when you see them in person you're like holy shit that is a absolute unit and an eagle did that to me there was an eagle i saw an eagle in my backyard that motherfucking thing is huge bro i had no idea how big they were them things are huge so man Imagine, you know, you're in the 1700s. You came from Europe. All the owls in Europe were just small, European, you know, didn't have the wilderness or, like, open airs has fully grown to their potential because it's Europe. Like they're goldfish, like it'll grow to the size of its tank.

And in the United States, there's more square miles for it to grow into. You come see some American owls and you're like, holy shit, this is witchcraft. Yeah, there's a lot of uncertainty. Yeah, people used to jump real fast to the whole witchcraft explanation. for anything that they saw. But I kind of understand it. If you, if, let's just say it's the year, uh, 1,200 and you're on a ship and you're sailing, I don't know, to Iceland and you see the northern lights appear.

You would think that that's God or heaven, right? Yeah. Like there's, what would be the first explanation that would enter? Well, to be, to be fair, you can see the northern lights from like Norway and Sweden. So all the people going to Iceland already kind of saw them. But they also thought they were something. crazy going on this guy. They probably thought it was Thor. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

Columbus tried to fuck a manatee. What? How are we spoken about this? I don't. I've never heard of that before. I'm calling it right now. This is this week's factor cap segment. Aaron, get ready to make your judgment one way or the other. I got you. Go ahead, Billy.

So basically Columbus came to the new world, was cruise around, you know, Hispaniola up into Florida with now Florida. And basically he saw a manatee and he was like, Mermaids are much more mannish than they are in folklore. They have like whiskers and beards. And he was like, he didn't actually try to fuck it.

But like, he was horny enough to think of manatee, he was a mermaid. Okay, got it. Which means he's trying to fuck it. Yeah, I was going to call cap on it when he said it. But yeah, yeah, all right. That was a little like, I want a little extreme on that. But it's implied that, you know, sailors want to fuck mermaids. And, you know, Columbus being like, there's a mermaid right there.

It's got a beard, though. that means he was thinking about it he was yeah he thought about it after a couple months at sea yeah even a walrus like yeah you start looking at those tx and you're like well pegging might not be so bad big tea

are there any are there any cryptids that are endemic to the Appalachian Mountains or smoky mountains that you know of not that I know of you ever hear about the moth man yeah yeah I was going to do that one but I chose another one all right you want I mean talk about it I don't

really know that much about the mothman i don't know i don't know i don't know shit about it i was going as i saw it and i was like that looks interesting but i picked another i think it's the same sort of premise as the jersey devil just like something flying around no no no the moth man's a little bit different the moth man appeared in west virginia for the first time i want to say like 60 70 years ago my time frame is probably a little bit off on that 1967 so that's almost 60 years ago that's actually closer to when willie mckinley was assassinated than it is to today. That's wild to think about.

The first newspaper report about it was in the Point Pleasant Register and the headline was couple sees man-sized bird ellipses, creature ellipses, something. Yeah. So what happened was somebody pulled over on the side of the road there was somebody that was like working on a vehicle

of some type and the person appeared stared at them and it was not a human being. It was there was something strange about him There are also stories about the mothman appearing where they are on board some sort of like flying object that has crashed to earth and the moth man steps out. It looks kind of like a moth or a man or a bird. But it's appeared several times in West Virginia over the course of the last 60 years. And there hasn't been a good explanation. And it's a wide variety of people that have seen it.

Some people coming from like upper class background, some from lower class, like it cuts across a tremendous like a wide swath of all the dead. demographics in this part of West Virginia. And they made that movie about the Mothman prophecies. Huh. There was a petition in June of 2020 to replace all Confederate statues in the United States with statues of Mothman. As of June 2021, the petition has garnered nearly 19,000 signatures. Okay.

Actually, statues of cryptids, would actually be pretty funny. Just be like, this is what it looks like if you see one so everyone knows. Yeah. I'm still on board like statues are stupid just in general like why why are you going to make

a statue of somebody you see the only one who wants the statue is the person No I Would you want a statue of yourself Absolutely not Would you want a statue of yourself

Just like cool Yeah but you probably would look weird Like true Yeah probably Somebody would be like Yeah Billy I'll make a statue of you And then it's you like Just chowing down on like

Green beans and lettuce And be like here's Billy the vegan Hang on you're on record You don't want a statue I do not. Let me say I disavow any future statues. Besides the busting in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That's still a statue.

Come on. It's a bust. It's a definite statue. Just neck up. All right. It's a micro statue. You busted too quick. I withdraw my name from consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I let it know I'm the only one on this podcast that has done that. I still might make it. Yep. One day. No, I think actually someone. But I think statues are dumb in general. Big T, you like statues? If you wanted to build a statue of me, I wouldn't stop you.

Okay. Now, hold on. Hold on, Big T. I'd be trying to ride with you, man. But that's idolatry. Oh, good point, Aaron. You're not necessarily incorrect, but, like, if... Come on, man.

This is about a statue. I'm down with statues. Wow. When was the last time you went out of your... your way to look at a statue um when we were in philly last year i went to look at some the rocky statue maybe they have a rocky statue that might be the single most idiotic shit that humans have done they like we built a fucking statue about a fictional fucking character it's pretty cool though before they won the super bowl a couple years ago they didn't really have much

else so that's just dumb like that is the dumbest shit i've ever said i didn't know Because I went to Philly. I had growing surgery in 2015. And like the best doctor in the country for that specific surgery is in Philly. And so I stayed like a week, two weeks there or something like that. And I was just like turn to city. And I didn't, I didn't think, you know, you see it. I guess I just never put two together.

Like I never thought much about Philadelphia that I never had a reason to. I think that shit. I was like, why the fuck is Sylvester Stallone in fucking Philadelphia, bro? It's weird. Beyond weird. They used to be the cap. of the United States and they moved it and they took that away from it so it's true yeah so rocky it is yep liberty bell cheese steaks rocky

uh i'd rather have a statue of a cheesecake than fucking rocky bro i would too honestly cheese steaks are delicious i love cheese steaks are my number two behind buffalo wings and those two and the two biggest like that's the dope part when i went to philly uh The two, like the battling cheese steak makers, I forget it's like sows or something like that. And then like, but like right across the street is the other one. And there's like the two biggest cheese steak places in Philly that they told us to go to. And they like right across street beach. I thought that was dope.

Hmm. I'm looking up more things about the Mothman. We should, Mothman is something that we should probably have. I want to get KB or Nick on to discuss because they're from West Virginia. So they probably have all sorts of like folklore that they grew up with around there. but there's 55 reported sightings of the mothman in different places in west virginia primarily stationed point pleasant i think it doesn't seem like that much for it to be a folklore 55 yeah but again it's kind of like what coley was talking about it was uh it was like a year where it was

spotted there and then they never saw it again hmm so um yeah going to have to dig a little bit into the mothman that's one that's always stood out to me but every podcast that I've looked at for the mothman uh it's like nine episodes because there's so much that they get into yeah and different people that they interview there's actually like a lot of background story and things that they've fact checked um where it seems something weird definitely happened in point pleasant west virginia 1967 they're just not sure what it was there was a military base close to it so there could have been some testing of some weird aircraft but um another one of those flying cryptids from America, the Thunderbird.

So basically a giant condor that has a bunch of bases in Native American culture, real-time sites, and a lot of pilots who were flying, like small planes around northern California or up the Pacific Northwest, say they see these gigantic condors that are just as big as their planes. I love the concept of the Thunderbird. Oh, the Thunderbird's great. Thunderburns are fucking awesome. Like, and they supposedly, when they call, they, like, sound like thunder.

Yeah. That's just, like, metal is fucking. Yeah. It is metal. There you go. Big T. What was yours that you wanted to discuss? That's a nice car, Billy.

Try. So my cryptid is Makele Mbembe, which is a sauropod dinosaur-like creature in the Congo River Basin. And in the early... Say that. Say that name. Say that name one more time. Mokele Mbembe, M-O-K-E-L-E-D-M-B-E. And this guy named Carl Hagenbach was one of the first to talk about what he believed was a dinosaur-like creature living in the Congo.

And he was actually, he was an interesting dude. He, like, supplied wild animals to zoos and also P.T. Barnum. So he was, he was an interesting character. Wait, so this person was in the business of, like, making up weird animals so the there had been like tribal reports of it I believe before that and then he went there as part of but yes he wasn't into that you know dealings of the kind of person that would like so dead snakes head on to the side of another snake and for a week he'd be like come look at this crazy two-headed snake until it died that's sure like okay well I don't know if

he how much he was involved in that but he supplied animals to PT Barnum gotcha the guy who said there's a sucker born every man minute. Yeah. Okay. So we are, I mean, we're talking about fake animals. Hey, hey, they're real to me. I know they are, buddy. So there are all sorts of like, you know, people have claimed that they've been in boats and this, uh, look, sauropod dinosaur. That's the only way I can describe it. Looks the, that way and is chased after them. Um, the, so I, I also, uh, I saw Zah near my desk today and I was like, hey, Zad, do you know anything about this? And he didn't, but he also told me, so I have a second one, he told me about this one in Zimbabwe called

Nyami Nyami, N-Y-A-M-I, twice. And that is, it's like a, it's the body of a snake with the head of a fish. And it's called, it's also known as the Zambezi snake spirit. And it like the, what river is it? Whatever the, something, it's believed to protect the Tonga people and give them sustenance and difficult times. But Zah said that there's, like people get dragged into the water by this this snake okay that could easy an alligator gar you could sell yeah alligator gar i don't know if those are from africa they're creepy looking but yeah mckella and bimbe is also uh big with like young earth theorists because they believe that if there's a dinosaur like creature living now that that validates the young earth theory

okay um i don't know those are crazy you know whatever so um But yeah, so there might be a dinosaur in the Congo. I saw one thing on that is that if you look at an elephant from far away and you see it bathing in the forest, like in a river or something, when they lift their trunk up, they also look like a pleiosaur because of the long neck, like a long neck dinosaur, it's their trunk. Okay. So that could be an explanation. I looked up alligator gar, which are crazy looking fish. It's from United States. It's from United States.

Yeah. Or snakefish. Like some, I remember that one guy who's, uh, not deadliest catch, but river monsters, he was like in Africa and he pulled out like a gigantic fish. So it was just like bigger than a human. Yeah. Uh, you okay, Big Tea? I'm doing great. God bless you.

Thank you. Welcome. Uh, that was a sneeze. Yeah, he plugged himself up real good. Big Tea. I want to see like a little life. Show me a little life today, Big Tea. Uh, show me that, what do you want?

That famous Big Tea spirit. how are we feeling i feel great timeout time out in the podcast we're going to keep taping but this is we're in timeout right now talk to me about the university of tennessee talking about the football team uh we didn't show much last week we're gonna open up the playbook a lot more this week this week this is a big game so big game this week we're playing pit pit yeah tower baron had a huge sack he had a big sack yeah i caught i caught two drives what do we think i was getting i was getting the massage and um that was like the only sports game on. And so I threw it on for just to have like some ambience in the background.

So I saw the first, I think with the first drive and like a drive in the second quarter. I do not see that offense being sustainable. I guess we'll find out. We only ran like, we ran like eight plays the whole game. Well, the issue is so they want speed, right? Yeah. You mean like the tempo is not sustainable? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, because I think if you want to do that, like what you have to do is you have to actually because, like, I bet you the defensive coordinator hates that shit because you don't get a lot of rest as a defense. And so it's hard to sustain over a long period of time, like an entire game. I think it's cool to do that like a drive or two and then get back into a regular orange where you're milking the clock. You know what I don't know.

It was interesting to say the least. Yeah, I think it's good to. Keep on Keep on, BigTee This is the Volunteer Minutes Ain't no Smuggie Smok Welcome back to the Volunteer Minute Here on Maca doesn't we get

The biggest University of Tennessee fan Herring Foster And also Big T He's here too Wild as a mean but sweet as So did pop I still dream about that Rocky Top

You'll always be last place in the SEC Rocky Top. See, it's always a set-up. The Barstool Sportsbook is now live in Tennessee. Yes, go download the Barstall Sportsbook out. That was the Volunteer Minute here on Macrodose. We'll have to do that every week. I like that.

Right. Just get Arian and Big T rapping about volunteer football. Do you want to hear the wildest shit that has happened to me in the last month? Yes. I was in Los Angeles, California, specifically Hollywood. and I was out there doing something and I stayed in the dream hotel it's in Hollywood, right?

Really nice hotel. Right across the street, there's an old vinyl store, right? And so one day I just decided to walk up there and I just, I like thumbing through vinals and like, see, because like not everything is on Spotify, right? So thumb to doing vitals, taking pictures and then kind of looking up and researching the music. I love doing that shit.

So I did that and I came across this old-ass bluegrass vinyl and it had fucking Rocky Top on it, though. I'm talking, there's thousands of albums, bro, and I was thumbing through it. And one of the ones I picked out was that one.

I was like, that shit is wild. Did you get it? That was wild. No, fuck, no. Why? We should do a remix of Rocky Top. We shouldn't, actually.

No, you don't think so? Why would we do that? You don't think you can make Rocky Top a banger? Oh, I would make a way better song than Rocky Top, but. Hang on. it's an objectively great song whatever you think

it's not it's not a good song oh no i think we can make a good version of rocky top on this on this podcast sure i think we can do it should should we try to do it yeah let's do it let's do it let's collab just erring you're you're gonna be you're gonna be on a big t or is that like is that sacrilegious oh no big t should definitely be on it big t's got a voice like an angel erin he can say word yeah i'm not kidding Big T can sing. We did something a couple years ago with our gambling goldfish Larry RIP

just passed away a couple days ago. But yeah, Big T did like a little gospel rendition of Larry's voice. He can sing. And he can whistle. Let me hear the pipes real quick. See, that's the thing though.

It's not like an, no, it's not right now. This is not the time of place. I'm gassing you up. I know, but I'm sitting. I'm not prepared. This is not the... And he's a phenomenal whistler too.

I'll whistle for you. What do you want? What do you want to whistle. Whistle, whistle something with a little, I don't know, give me something, man. Give me a little rocketyl whistle. Yeah, I don't know. A little vibrato in a whistle. That's impressive. Yeah, I don't do that on purpose, but I've been told that that's... You know how I know we live in a more empathetic generation. Like, it used to be commonplace... Tell us how, Billy.

He used to be commonplace, like, just in a totally nonviolent sector, non, like, part of the world. Like, you know, if there was a kid with a good sing voice, they just chop off his balls. Like, Big T would have no balls if he, like, was in, you know, if they made him a... He'd be low tea. Yeah, he'd be low Tee. Yeah. A vibrato, they chop off his balls, have him singing in church, and they wanted to keep that voice. And that was just solely because, like, oh, yeah, like, he had a good voice.

We're just going to chop his balls off. Is this a little concerning to you, Big T, how... Show me where that has. happened, Billy. It happened so many times. No, the castratas. In the United States. I don't think in the United States. I think that's mostly overseas. I don't have personal, Billy might have more insight as to how many kids got their nuts chopped off in the road. I think I saw that the Da Vinci Code. It just came out. Billy's was reading

article. They just said that I love, I love Billy's little tell lines where if Billy's about to say it just came out that or a new study came out. I just hear a lot of things. They're saying now that that's when you know some real fucking fire is about to come out. It's about to go down. That real unverified shit is about to come out of his mouth. It's my favorite.

Billy, you strike me as one of those people who bring up old arguments with your girlfriend from a long time ago. She's like, where the fuck did that come from? And it's been sitting and festering in your soul. And all of a sudden, I'm not spiteful. So, uh, Big Tito is beautiful. Thanks. I'm glad that we got to do the volunteer

minute. Me too. That's going to be every week during football season we're going to do the volunteer minute. Well, if things go south we don't need to do the volunteer minute. No, we're going to do it. Oh no, my brother. That's when we, that's when we need to do it. Why are you not with me on this? You should be the one guy. Big Tee. I don't listen, bro. I don't care about this shit. I know, but I went to Tennessee. I love the people that I was with there, but like, I just have no reverence for the University of Tennessee. I

apologize. It's sad. It's just not there. I don't. I have the same reverence for University of Tennessee as I do for like college football. general like but the people that i've met there and i love them i love the people that i met for sure who do they play this weekend big t Pittsburgh Pittsburgh a lot of punts this weekend a lot of punts from them not from them definitely from them not from big tea because Tyler baron macrodosing athletes going to get three sacks he's going to get home a few times so that's right so we want to bring that Tyler i got i got $500 per sack this week for Tyler baron just for I'm telling telling about it oh no we can't do that camera I don't think we can do that

well this is I don't think we can pay per play but if it happens to be why wouldn't you why wouldn't you be able to do that well we see we need to figure this out because we reached out to him and he's responsive to Avery so he is aware of the fact that we're trying to give him money he's trying to do his best with compliance and not get you know in any trouble given, you know, that, Avery, maybe you can explain. There's also, there's also another bump in the road. Our friend Tyler Barron also, now there's negotiation on whether it's a story or a feed post.

Are we willing to offer more of our services for a feed post or is this going to just be a story? Tell me, my guy's negotiating. I like, I like this guy. I love it. I love it. It depends on how many songs he gets. He said if you won't, you don't get on the main page players, it's going to cost a little extra cheddar. I'm with you, my guy, go ahead.

Especially, hey, the price went up. My guy got a sack with one. Come on, doggy talk to me, fam. I'm with you, dog. He's trying to get his bag. I respect it. Yeah, so we might have to negotiate more doses for this. Hey, tell him name the price.

I'm trying to get on the main feed. Yeah, tell main feed. Okay. We're willing to talk main feed. If it's more money, that's understandable, we understand that a premium placement comes with a premium price tag. So, yeah. you ask him and uh and we'll make it happen but tyler baron the macrodosing

university of tennessee i think he's like the arian foster legacy macrodosing athlete of the university of tennessee i love it i love it so yeah he's going to get home a couple times this weekend if we're going to do a cryptids podcast we're going to have to talk about some of the classics that we probably overlook because we're let's get in let's get let's get let's get everybody else first before you go into billy's mind we got to talk about we got talk about Billy's bag we can't go through without talking about Nessie okay Nessie is it did you have one that you researched more than the others no I love I have Chupacobra I got a lot that's the one I did

I did you perfect okay I'll do I'll do Chupacper and then we'll get into Billy's bag okay I like it Aryan all right Chupacper was fucking fascinating and what fascinated about it to me was that it was recent right it was in 1995 was deciding. There was, it was linked to something in like 1970 something where there was like missing or killed livestock in the people's farm, but they thought it might have been a like a cult killing or something like that. But anyway, nothing that transpired. But so in 1995 in the town called Kana, I pulled it up because I'm not a state of shape, Kanovanus in Puerto Rico. So there was a killing of a whole bunch, I think it was like 150 or something like that, 150 goats.

And that's what the name Chupacabra actually means. It means goat sucker. And it was alleged that the goats actually got their blood sucked out of them, like completely. And that was what was compelling to everybody in the towns. And so throughout the course of the next year, things started happening to people's livestock. like dogs, cats, whatever the case may be, they all started getting killed with the same kind of markings. Then the sighting started happening, right?

And this is what really intrigued me about it was when they started to dig into it. Because if you understand the history of Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico is a part of the USA, but it doesn't have any like political ties to it as far as like they can't vote in a general election, right? But they still have to follow all of the laws that we provide federally.

So they kind of feel like an outcast in society. So like culturally, the Chupacabra has kind of taken on the same, I guess, fuck, I'm blanking on the word. Same, whatever. Same kind of character, right? And so the mayor, there was a mayor that was running for an electoral position, actually went out hunting for the Chupacabra. And he went out hunting for him.

put on a big show like and they put a goat on the back of like some hort or is just a carriage or something like a live goat to try to bait him into getting getting eaten. That's how big it got.

And so subsequently there was a guy by the name of let me see what his name was. Um, uh, fuck I don't know his name. I'll think of it here in a second. But he, Benjamin Radford, there goes. Benjamin Radford, he ended up writing a book about it in 2011, tracking the Chupacabra,

where he really started to like, he did what Billy does, right? He'll listen to his stories and he'll actually go in and actually investigate the actuality of it all. And like I said, it became like a social folklore and it became big. There's songs written about it in the 90s. There's merch, you know, it just becomes a big thing. And in his, in his, like documentation what he kind of what he what he concluded was more than likely what it was was there was um there was dogs like straight there could be straight dogs coyotes um things like that

that have uh dis morphed genetics that caused them to be like hairless very thick skin stuff like that um and after and over time like i said the the legend uh grows but that's what he concluded that it was and there was no real evidence of any kind of Chupacabra. But it was fascinating to me how it tied into like something political and how like the culture kind of took it on as like a characterization of themselves of being like an outcast. And it was this fascinating cryptic. Yeah.

I would love for somebody that's running for political office to go out and be like, you know what? I'm going to find Bigfoot. That's my political position. People would vote for the guy, I'm sure, or a girl. Well, you know, with the Chubacabra is that they were, really playing it up on the border. So a lot of border patrol officers were saying that on the southern border

that there's chupacabras patrolling, like, the land, those like places that you can't really control in the desert between Mexico and the United States where like no one can put up a wall there or whatever. So they were saying like, yeah, there's chupacras. And they spread that rumor so people wouldn't make the track. Because, and also the coyotes would then, coyotes and people who would smuggle people across the border would be like, yeah, you can't make it by.

yourself without a coyote because of the chukakabras and it sort of really got played up and yet really interesting story i think i think i think i think i actually the chupacabra is one that i kind of believe in um there's there's a lady that found a chupacabra the name is phyllis canyon and uh let's see where was she this was reported to kprc news and um she actually still has its head and she's got pictures of the entire body. She had the head preserve. A lot of people will say that the chupacabra is a coyote. This doesn't look anything like a coyote.

It's like a crossbreed between a coyote and a hog. I've just seen a lot of coyotes. This is definitely not a coyote. A lot of hairless dogs. Yeah. So it could be actually something that's like art imitating, what is it? No, life imitating art where there have been all these reports of the chupacabra

and people that have described what they say. see and there are people that are trying to breed animals that match those descriptions in Texas like way out in the countryside they'll try to breed animals together because you know for every time that it absolutely does not work and I believe that's probably like the creepiest thing that you can do is to like have your own island of Dr. Moreau and just try to make new species of animals but for every animal that doesn't work I'm sure like one side of every hundred times you stumble across like oh holy shit we can breed a horse and a donkey and a mule works like a mule comes out the other side you think we have manifested many things

on this show if there's one thing i want us to manifest it is a remake of the island of dr moreau that shit would be fire nowadays yes the technology it would be amazing because that it was a fire movie man you would fire who would be who would be your choice to play dr morrow hmm i have zero idea what you guys are talking you don't know what bill you would love You haven't seen that? Oh, you, yeah, you're fuck with it. Yeah, you fuck with it. Bill, I need you to lead the charge on this because you need to watch.

I will watch the movie, not tonight. I have to make my hedgehog do football picks, which takes much more time consuming than you think. He'll have a very busy scale. Woody Harrelson got to play Dr. Rowe. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's he.

I would like to see him in an evil role. That would be fire. I think, I think your idea of just like some anti-immigration, Texas rancher breeding hairless, chooka-cobber-like dogs to patrol the border is pretty metal. That's pretty out there. Yeah. Just so got like, yeah. No, they definitely need to remake this movie. I'd forgotten just how much ass it kicked.

But it was fire, man. And it was kind of like the graphics is probably corny and shit like when you watch them down. I haven't seen it in years, but I'm guessing it would be. But you know, the graphics aren't corny, even though it's been over 10 years. Avatar. I still haven't seen it. I don't think I'm ever going to see Avatar. Oh, you're going to watch.

What is it like seven hours long? Yeah, I've never seen it either. It's a two and a half. Wow, this is kind of like, I saw like Big T when y'all talk about Jesus. This is how, Phil? I'm sorry, Big T. I saw it in theaters with the 3D IMAX glasses. I saved up to like buy a 50.

dollar cinema ticket to see the avatar when first came out in the real 3D and it was bamboozled it blew my mind 3d movies are the most overhyped shit in the world but it's a fire for that one for that one i think how did you see it the first time uh i saw it many times the first time yeah but i saw it in like the 40 theater like crazy just regular i'mx i think yeah 3d is usually just a crock of shit and we're we're about reaching that time so where people are going to start pushing 3D movies on us again. It's once every 10, 15 years, they're like, oh, guess what? 3D is coming back.

It's better than ever now. And then you go see a moving 3D and you're like, I feel kind of sick after watching it. Have you all been to this 4DX shit? No, yeah. Have you done one of those? So it's the seats are on like a joystick, like the bottom of a joystick, how it moves. They're on that. And they shake and move and all this shit.

They spray water on it. You can't see, you can't focus. I had no idea when I went to it. You're sitting on a joystick? You're sitting on a Sibian, I think. You're something that allows it to move and, and you can't focus on the movie. It sucks. Don't ever go.

Okay. 40x. I'm in. I'm in. I want to go to that. That sounds fun. It's like one of those Adventure Park rides where it kind of moves and the wind comes and the water. I'm in.

I'm in. You just can't, you just can't focus on the movie. The first time. You got to go, you got to go faded. You can't go there like sober. Yeah. Yeah. The Days of Thunder.

ride at King's Dominion, the NASCAR movie, they had one of those at King's Dominion in Virginia where it would move with the NASCAR as you were driving around the track. That kicked ass. I could say that. The first 3D movie I ever went to within the first like five minutes, I reached out and touched the person in front of me. I was really little. I was I was young and you know, you guys like, what the fuck? What was the first 3D movie you guys saw? Because I remember mine vividly. I think it was the Polar Express. I have no idea.

Did you see that too? I didn't see it in 3D, but I have a strong, like, I feel like people are, I have a very strong emotional connection to that movie. Mine was Spy Kids too. Oh. I always feel so old when you guys are talking about like the first things that you guys remember. It's like, oh yeah, I was paying a bill when I remember seeing a commercial for that.

So she mentioned Spike. I'm sorry, go ahead, get your off. The favorite Spy Kid quote, did God, does God stay in heaven because he too is afraid of what he created? And it's just literally that actor who's in grownups just like in Spy Kids. What's his name? Steve Boucher, he's just like sitting there delivering like this heavy, heavy line.

Yeah. Steve Bisham is a cool dude. Yeah. You know that like, Firefighter. Yeah, Firefighter. He worked for like months at Ground Zero after 9-11. because that's what he was doing and was not like there were no people taking pictures of him or whatever

he's just that's that's what he does like in his spare time right i mean awesome dude but just don't expect those those amazing pros in spy kids comedy for children talking about existential yeah that movie like it fucks with you mentally and like the i remember like the thumbs like the thumbs that would run around that were i don't know if they were villains or not but they were like part of the Spy Kids universe and freaking what's her what's her face the really it was the mom from grownups too um shit oh um crazy Penelby Cruz no yeah crazy movie but huh I think the thumbs are supposed to be a play on like oh just kidding Carla Gugino you know how like henchmen are always like you know like thick-necked white dudes who are bald like

Dana white looking dudes uh that's what the thumbs are they all look like thumbs speaking of Dana white-looking dudes Joe Rogan getting COVID-19 Yeah He's got COVID Yeah He's taking what is it called Ivermectin

Yep And for meckton I want to let Billy go off on Ivermecting Because I know I know that look on his face And that look means that he has some opinions Do you remember what I thought Because I want to hear

I want to hear I just got to insert this in the plot Before we pivot past Kid nostalgia I don't know if y'all Because y'all meet you know But PSC you was here for

it's blues clues. Steve from blues clues. He came back in a viral video that touched my fucking soul my guy. I saw you posted that. Yeah, posted it with my own little message because it was like he basically in a nutshell says, and if you haven't seen it out there,

go look at it on my page, go to Nick Jr.'s page. I don't know, go find that shit. Because it was one of the most touching things Nickelodeon has ever done to me. That sounds weird. But it was very, it was very heartfelt because he comes back and he says I kind of left abruptly

and I just want to let you know I never forgot about you ever it was just like why did you do that to me Steve it just meant so it meant so much to me man it just it just really did right evermectin oh

Joe rolling at COVID so I blogged the blues coes thing so you can find it at barstolesports dot com but Ivermectin um Ivermectin is getting a bad name. And remember when I talked about the time, scabies awareness.

Yep. And how you know, you got to be careful about scabies. It's like something that no one ever warns you about in health class and, you know, like stuff like it is, you know, spreads very easily. And it's a mite that burrows under your skin. Well, I took ivermectin to combat scabies. and it is not necessarily the livestock drug that people are saying it does work on livestock did you shit your brains out no okay but i'm just saying it's like it's been it cured river blindness in africa and it's like very widespread use do i think it's used to like you know cure

covid i don't know there's no clinical studies but it is for humans too i'm going to say it's probably not a cure for COVID. I'm going to say, I'm going to hazard a guess and say that getting the vaccine for COVID is probably seven million times more protected. Yeah, no, 100% than taking, I remember, but I'm glad that you're clearing up the It's an anti-parasitic drug, and that's why they give it to animals that get parasites, like cattle and horses. I've heard people use it for ringworm and cause kids.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I don't understand. So purely because I've done zero research on Ivermectin. But just thinking that something is, it's parasitic, why would they then attribute that to a virus? It's a fair question. No idea. Fair question. But Joe Rogan, ours nipples, Billy, coned.

Joe Rogan is a different species. He's hopped up on so many different vitamins, TRT, HGH. like his i'm very interested to see joe rogan's aging process because what is he's 50 now he's in his 50s he's either going to die in the next 10 years because people use hg h and t r t that's that's their that's their timetable of dying like wrestlers like or it's something really like because he's his body's been running hot for a long time with everything he's putting in there so he's either going to live forever or he's going to go down pretty soon. I feel like his body has got to be in active mode constantly.

Like his body's probably very confused why it's always, like you said, running hot, like at an optimal rate of speed. If he stopped getting all the injections he's been getting, his pituitary gland is probably like nuked to the brain. He probably cannot produce any of his own hormones. So he's sort of, you know, he needs a lot of support to stay running. But, you know, if you want to live your life that way, that's awesome. But if you dropped him in the middle of the forest for two months, he collapsed pretty quickly.

All right. There's Billy's Joe Rogan analysis of the week. But Ivermectin, good for scabies. Good for scabies. So the macrodosing is putting our official stamp of approval on. Ivermectin for scabies. It's better than the cream because the cream just kills them on the top of the skin, not the ones deep that you need. to take the ivermectin to get okay just make a make a stamp uh avery canney or or mad dog

that just says ivermectin it's billy approved for scabies for scabies ivermectin it worked for me scabies for scabies i like it uh we have real quick breaking news here um tyler our university of tennessee macrodosing athlete is now he's saying that his management tells him he shouldn't do the main feed for anything less than $2,000. Let's fucking go. I think we got ourselves a deal. My guy's playing a hard ball, man. I like it.

He guys, 11,000 followers. And his management team is telling us that $2,000 to see it. You know what? Fuck it. Yep. Fuck it. That's what I'm saying, too. Fuck it.

We need to do this, man. I love this thing. I'm following them. What is a number that would have been too high for you to say yes? I don't know that there is one. That's what I was going to say. He should have gone for way higher than 2000 because the higher he goes, Arian is just in on it.

Well, the reason why I'm so in on it because there isn't a speck of analytics in the world that will tell you 11,000 followers equals $2,000 for advertisement. It's just the numbers aren't there. But he had the balls to one say he has a management team that told him that. But two, to actually, like, go through with it. I love that shit. You know what it is? He's brand new to negotiating his worth on the free market.

And, like, he's just kind of throwing. And this is going to give him confidence to be like, that's what I want. Because that's all negotiation is. For anybody listening out there, whether you're negotiating for a salary raise or you negotiate for anything else, everybody wants to play a hardball.

And this capitalist society, they want to play a hardball. So you shoot a shot. So you go, you go, you go high, they go low, and then you end up meeting someone in the middle. But we're going to teach this young man is you go high and you don't take no for an answer.

And that is how you win. I would love it. Be confident. If Arian is like setting the market artificially, like all these other college athletes now go to these companies and they're like, we think you're worth X. And they're like, well, Tyler Barron got two grand for doing this.

And Arian just like inflates the market. On the main account. Correct. For a main post. Yeah, for a main post. Not just a storage. main post that's his fucking floor now guys we just like this is floor like it or not you can say artificially but we are setting the market that's true we there's nothing artificial if if money's

changing hands that the market is what you are worth what the market that's correct there's no such thing as being overpaid we showed a little too much interest that drove up his asking price well that's fine we were trying to play hardball with him who play who play who's getting the double teams on the line that let him get the sack i don't care i like this guy yeah We won him This is our guy We picked a guy Got a guy

Our guy said Show me I'm your guy We got to show We got a fucking show Who's getting the double Teams like Aaron Donald Freeing up the rest of the line

I don't know This is awesome Matthew Butler played a good game But Barron's probably Our best defensive lineman There we go Mm-hmm Would the price

Going up The price going up baby And Barron's willing to do you know, 1K for the main page. Okay. Maybe we can get a volume discount. We'll buy 50 main page posts.

Every week. Yeah. Oh, for the season. Yeah. I love it. Spread them out. Yeah. Give me three macro dosing posts a week. And for the next, what, like 13 weeks? And then we'll pay you, I mean, there's got to be like some sort of

volume discount. Let's just say 13. $35,000 for your entire feed to just be... Just macrodosing. Whenever the new episode comes out, we'll have him, like, where... We'll send a T-shirt to him every week, be like, the teacher will say this week's macrodosing is cryptids, and then that will be the picture that we use. Probably not, but...

Maybe we'll do the mini episode this week. It'll just be Billy and Tyler on a Zoom call and them negotiate the deal. See how much it costs us. that I'll be fire because Billy Billy's like this is this is fiscally irresponsible guys I just think we should I think we should think through it Oh bad

All right Let's get back to cryptids real quick Because I know that Billy's got a few days Looking to get into it Although for the record I believe In the existence of a tupacabra like animal I think that's true Yeah that's what's wild that you believe that

But the alien reptilian type Or the stray mangy dog That's bad at killing stuff So it just takes one bite leaves three puncture wounds and then leaves because he can't kill it, then it runs off and dies. I think that it's, no, I think that there are some weird cross-bred animals that do exist out there. So there was a, there was a, I think it was a school in Texas. I don't remember what school it was, but they actually did a study on one of the DNA of an alleged chupacabra,

and it turned out to be a coyote. But just like it had, like I said, I had like some kind of like morph. or maybe like a mutated coyote no mange it's like a parasite and they scratch on the air it's much of mangy coyotes put some respect on the chupacobber it's also a good

there's a bar on 6th Street called chupacobra that has good queso that's all I'm going to say does that like bang or margaritas yeah the margaries are pretty good too so if you ever find yourself in Austin chupacra's not a bad place to go I just want to and I might drink a margarita I was thinking the same thing

all right Billy Do you know that Stalin tried to cross breed apes with humans to create a new army? No. Yeah. I was like, I wanted to talk about Bigfoot and Yeti and like all the huge ape hominids. But seriously, after World War I, so many Russian men were killed and they were going to be soon after in World War II. That Stalin was just like, like, this was one of these, you know, crazy experiments that you could do in the Soviet Union because they had zero human ethics. And they're just like, what if we could create super soldiers with the strength of a gorilla and the mind of a human?

So they're literally creating, trying to create crossbred humans and apes. And then their big, their only problem with it is, well, how many human strength monkey-brained hybrids are we going to get trying to create the super strong, super smart soldiers? I feel like it would take thousands of years to make an army of these things, right? Because guerrillas, apes, they don't give birth to, like, huge litters at a time, do they? Right. And humans definitely, though. Well, you know what they were just doing? What?

They were artificial inseminating Russian women with orangutang, guerrilla. Shut off. Yeah. No, seriously. There was a Monster Quest episode on it. And then they found in Russia, like a half human, half ape dude that they weren't sure was like an escaped type thing, that it may be legend, but there was like a Bigfoot found in Russia later around that time or earlier. Wait, Russian Bigfoot. It was one of those two.

How did they decide that they were going to artificially insominate Russian women, not just like find? like the horniest Russian men and be like, hey, just, well, they did give me your come. They did both ways. Okay. And it didn't work, I'm guessing. Never worked because of the chromosome stuff. Well, it didn't work that we know of. Yeah.

Damn. That's, I had never heard about this experiment before. Yeah, it's actually crazy. Yeah, so Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin wanted to rebuild the Red Army in the mid-1920s with Planet of the Ape-style troops by crossing huge. humans with apes. Stalin is said to have told Ivanov, I want a new invincible human being insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat. At what point if you're, if you're like working for Stalin and he says this, are you like, this is,

this is like beyond supervillain type stuff. Like, I'm out. I'm okay with like the inhumane treatment of the millions of people in the army. But when you start talking about like creating genetic half-bred human apes where is the line drawn Look I just want to say I mean this is probably One of the greatest arguments

For capitalism Because like this is what communism leads to Communism Oh fuck off Oh fuck off Look oh we're all equal And you know Then you start experimenting

Billy's right capitalism We'll make that jump Capitalism We all start at You know We just want to be an agrarian nation share all the bountiful crops and then boom, super

soldiers that are half gorilla. Billy's right. Billy's right. Capitalism would never lead to dubious ethical decisions made in the name of medicine. Ever. Never. Ever. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. Big Tate.

Your thoughts? I think you should ask your favorite late night host with his thoughts about that. Who's my favorite late night host? one that went on his show last night and said that unvaccinated people should be denied hospital beds who said that Bill Mar

Jimmy Kimmel Oh I do I love Jimmy Kimmel That Yeah but we're all about health care for all I didn't know I didn't know I had a thousand percent of him I also didn't know that I was a Jimmy Kimmel fan

He said that I'd well just the general you What does that mean the general me The The general population The general population People love Jimmy Kimmel. People love Jimmy Kimmel.

He said that health care workers should deny service to people who would prefer Ivermectin as a treatment to COVID rather than the vaccine. But if they have scabies, absolutely give them Ivermectin. Yes, absolutely. Or ringworm. We need to increase our supply of Ivermectin. Or scabies treatment. River blindness.

Yep. I absolutely agree with that. And malaria, I think. Mm-hmm. Well, I think. Yeah, maybe. I don't think. ivermectin doesn't work for malaria does it i think it i think it's up there i think early stages

is that that giant pill that you take when you travel overseas yeah because if so i i might have taken ivermectin before i'm i mean you shouldn't take it for covid but it's just like it's like everyone being like oh it's only for cattle like yes they're going into livestock stores and buying the cattle version so they can get it over the counter which is bad yeah but ivermectin is not just for cattle yep it's also for scabies um but yeah there's they found this woman in Russia called Zana who they thought was Russia's own Bigfoot

in the 19th century. So before they started doing that stuff but yeah that's some crazy shit. Crazy. We need to do more research on Stalin's half ape army. Super warriors. Why would

you think that it would be a super warrior? Well, I mean, think about it. Think about you, you know, nothing. Would you trust the monkey to drive the tank? No, because he's got human, he's got a Russian brain. So Stalin is trying to create a soldier that

like was as strong as a gorilla but had like a human brain. Right. But except for the parts of the brain that taught it to like complain about falling orders or like eating food that wasn't spoiled. Well that was, they knew how to deal with that through like

Soviet Russian army tactics. Okay. I mean, they ended up coming up with a pretty good army that beat Hitler. Yeah, a lot of numbers. Listen, God bless the broken road that led them to the stand in Stalingrad. But for the record, we're anti-crossbreeding humans and apes to create a super soldier army. They are doing that in China right now, though.

There was the scientists who did the people. I thought that was illegal in China. No, but they made a human, uh, human ape embryo recently. Really? No. This is a whole accusation, Billy. Really? Yeah.

you're absolutely right about avermectin just as aside ivermectin and um malaria that they use to control or yeah to reduce uh scientists this actually might have been in america scientists create early embryos that are part human part monkey yeah the reason with this is that if they start actually making these hybrids and then they don't

aren't technically classified as humans then they can test on these half humans half ape hybrids in like labs this is getting heavy for me right now that's what the that's what the macro dosin does baby what what link is that though is it like a real reputable website or is it like an NPR now I'm looking up some stuff right now research at the Salk Institute for

biological studies in California working in collaboration with Chinese scientists grew embryos in a dish with some surviving up to 20 days these are monkey embryos containing human cells okay so let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. The efficacy of it. Do you think it's ethical to create something and to crossbreed if it's possible? I don't even know the genetics are possible, but if it's possible to crossbreed humans and what would it be another primate? So that would be a, so everyone got mad at me on another episode where I was talking about, I was saying chimeras, but it's really Cameras, which is half human, half animal hybrids

in mythology, but they use it for these science experiments. But they are a couple already. I'd say if the animals... Oh man, this is hard. If the animals consent. Yeah, it's a good question. I would say no. Like to all of it. I feel like once the hair on my neck starts standing up,

that's when I'm like, okay, this is that's your that's your that's your that's your moral meter i can't i can't describe it i can't tell you exactly where it is but once that's well that's a thing though right is if okay let's say they do that and that makes your hair stand up right you draw the line there but you don't draw the line with other animals that they use that can definitely feel pain and they can definitely sense and have the capacity to to love you don't draw the line there because it's kind of just you know it's it was it's mended in your moral compasses that's okay yeah i'm So I'm a big hypocrite for sure.

I have a hypothetical situation. We all are. We all have to be. No one, there's not a single person that's on this planet right now that has like an ethical straight line that they, probably the closest to it. Sorry, Billy, it would be like somebody who's a vegan that just that never leaves their house and, you know, and doesn't really shower except with like rainwater. That would probably be the only person. And that's, I don't think that lifestyle is for us. So I think, I don't think it's, it's hypocritical to, to, to, to criticize a system that is, that's necessary to live, right?

You were born here, it's, you weren't born with the tools to live on the, off, off the grid and just survive on the land. Like, you were born with that kind of knowledge, right? So in order to survive into the system, there's certain things you have to acquiesce to. So I don't think it's hypocritical to, uh, exist in a system and critique it. But it's interesting, like you said, the acknowledgement of you being a big hypocrite is a big thing. Like, I'm definitely a hypocrite as well. I think vegans are the closest ones.

Vegans for ethical reasons anyways, for nutritional reasons, not much so. But vegans for ethical reasons are probably the most morally consistent people I've met. Hmm. If they were to hypothetically have stem cells available from these monkey human hybrids, that they were just sort of growing, using. Here's where I become an even bigger hypocrite. You ready for this?

Because if I get diagnosed, let's just say, with like pancreatic cancer and somebody, there's a scientist who's like, hey, we have this treatment. It's using the stem cells that were grown, using the hybrids. I'd be like, give me those fucking stem cells right now. And I would take advantage of all,

like, the unethical shit that went into creating it if it meant that I could save my own life. I think most people would do that too. If you don't, well, how far along the line are you in the, are you in the, uh, organ harvesting? If it's my clone. Yeah. Take, take, take all them shit. No, I, Oregon harvesting, you mean like, what do you mean?

They sell, they sell organs on the, on the black market. There's black market organ, like, they take people's, they kidnap people, take people's kidneys and livers and shit like that. What's the, uh, what's the going rate for like a kidney? Depends on the quality, depends on the quality in country. tree of origin you want it from i liver my liver is probably shit yeah all right so good luck with that one i want they do it a ton in china there's like a pay to play system i want a liver from um somebody in salt lake city no no that's not going to happen but like for example like it's either north korea it's like there's a there's a yelp page for yeah no serious this is how they do

like you can get it it's like you know uh north korea weger muslim uh i do not want to I want North Korean organs. Yeah. I feel like they're, like they probably are fed, you know, two grains of rice today or whatever. Their ration can be. It's fascinating to look at North Korea's population and see just how bad the nutritional aspect. The malnutrition has affected the size of people. Yeah, no one's over five foot.

No one's over five. Well, there are a couple of people, but like it's, it's noticeable just after, you know, 60 years of having, you know, almost constant famine where they're giving these meager rice, rations. And now their kids are all just like very small, very sickly. But I know to answer your question, I'm not in favor of like having somebody killed and then stealing their organ. I don't think I would do that. Got you. I mean, neither am I but I just know how far is the give me give me, give me that unethical practice to save my life goes. I would I would reject murdering somebody to take their organ, but I would also expect that I get people applauding me and congratulating me for not

having somebody killed and making the ethical decision. What if someone else murders them? If they're already murdered? Yeah. Then you're talking about organ donation. Right, right. But, you know, it was sort of they knew that if they killed them, there'd be a market. Like, you know, someone wants a lung, someone wants a heart, someone's a kid.

If they were killed because somebody was trying to harvest their organs, if that was the reason why they were killed, then no, I don't want to. But if they're dead, what if they were like death row? They just want to, if they were just one of big T's victims. Yeah, let's say, you know, we're down the line. You know, big T's. Hey, this episode, the only person who's talked about killing somebody is Aryan. That's true.

I just like to say, for the future big T, I'd like to, I'd like to purchase you a series of, uh, large industrial strength freezers just for you to have in your house. I, you can do, I think, I thank you for your generosity. I don't need that gift. Whatever you want. Yeah. Scrap storage. You can put whatever that you want.

them. I live in a 150 square foot apartment. I have nowhere to keep a large freezer. Okay. Isn't that convenient? Got some scraps laying around parts? Nice little alibi there. I don't have room for a big freezing. But you're right. Going back to the whole point

of the half human hybrids, it's like the embryos it's tough to have like an ethical line that's wrong. I don't think that there's a right answer to it unless you say like nothing at all. Like never do research using any sort of

any sort of hyper Well I mean there's a real there's a real That's a real like People talk about all the time Should you do euthanasia? Like should euthanasia be ethical And you're like giving people The consent to kill themselves or not

And we stop people from doing that a lot So like it's that ethical like There's a lot of scientific Ethicacy issues that that probably need to be talked about more I think you people absolutely should be allowed to kill themselves if they're facing terminal illness or like constant pain. I think if you are in favor of limited government and you do not agree with that, then that makes you a massive hypocrite as well. Yeah, I, if you think about it, like, if you're not, if you don't want someone to be able to choose, like, if they have terminal cancer, you know, I don't think that like you should be able to just like walk up and be perfectly healthy.

and be like, yep, I want to, but. Yeah, we're not going to encourage people. No, but if you're like terminal illness, you're in constant pain, like you just said, I think there's a like sense of dignity that you're like, I want to keep that. Also, I feel like if other people are telling you, like the governor or whoever are telling you, you can't do that, it's for the benefit of others, not for yourself at that point. If anyone has ever experienced like a loved one or family member going through something like late stage cancer you you would never be against allowing somebody the right to kill themselves

given what they were facing some people prefer not to and that's that's a personal decision and that's great for those people but if you that's the course that you select there shouldn't be anybody that tells you not to absolutely not yeah at that point it's for the benefit of like your family and your like loved ones rather than you're you're suffering for others you can put down dogs Organ donors It has to be organ donors though Yeah Good point Bill

That's good stipulation Yeah if you're going to do it Might as well Yeah Give me one of those lungs Throw the parts But I also feel like most people Like I don't know

I don't think I know Anyone in my life Like Like directly That's not an organ donor Donor Right I don't know that many people

Oh Yeah It's It's it's It's a conspiracy like especially among like black folks well they'll be like nine or organ donor because they think if you put organ donor on your ID then they are going to try to kill you so they can get organs because they sell organs on the black market like I've had that conversation with many of folk and I'm like my dog it's just not they're not plotting to kill you for your kidney I promise you all right bill you want to get into any like Bigfoot shit yeah dude I fucking love Bigfoot I know I fucking love all the hominids like Yeti Yahweh

Not Yahweh That's God No sorry No No No the Australian one You blew your live there buddy Yala

No what's the Australian one called Oh boy Steve Irwin No it's like called like Yai All right But talk to me real quick about Yetty Because Yetty was what I looked up to

Dude Yetty's awesome Great thermos Yeah Yeah and coolers Yeti Coolers I love Yeti Coolers And Barcelona Send me some

Coolers No Now full time Oh wow Billy just wants a cooler Yeah I need to listen All right

I'll tell you what I learned about Yeti today This is really interesting stuff So the first guy Or I should say The first European person to

Or not European First white person To Summit Mount Everest Edmund Hillary Sir Edmund Hillary He had an encounter With the Yeti insane

You know who else had an encounter With Bigfoot Teddy Roosevelt He was secondhand conversation But he wrote about it So I think we need to define

The word encounter But You know who else had an encounter With him Secondhand No but it's actually hilarious Yahweh Yoie is actually the Australian one

It's like saying Billy you've had a second hand encounter with a pro bowl Because you're on a podcast Basically basically one guy went out one guy one guy went out that teddy roosevelt knew and then two guys went out and then one of them died and the guy came back said yo it was a yeah it was a big foot okay but then he blamed he blamed this is actually really funny uh it was so funny how like uh xenophobic like early americans were

to like new immigrants that like we'd never think like so so that's changed by the way right right but like we've we've definitely changed since no no no but i'm saying like teddy roosevelt's making fun of this german guy that like oh uh roosevelt notes that bowman appeared fearful while telling story but attribute the trappers folkloric german ancestry to have potentially influenced him in his sighting okay so it's like oh he's a german he just believes in stupid shit yeah germans believe in all this weird crap i it puts perspective on it i don't know what it is but there's something funny to me about like stereotypes that are very outdated like finding out what weird stereotypes they used to have in like the 1700s like that aren't harmful anymore that aren't

harmful anymore yeah it's like oh stay away stay away from the irish because uh you know fiery bunch the fire bunch that red hair yeah you know just fighting all the time irish people they've got they've got weak ribs you know like like crazy stuff like that that makes that is no relevance to today yeah i always like hearing what because it kind of puts you in the perspective of like what stereotypes do we have nowadays that will be laughed about because they're so stupid. But yeah, he was a German, so he was obviously making it all up

as they tend to do. Those germans, man. But what I thought was interesting about the Yeti, or the abominable snowman, if you'd so prefer to call him that. So if you're not familiar with the Yeti, it's a hominid-like animal that supposedly wanders through the Himalayan Mountains.

It's got long, usually white or red hair. And it's kind of like half ape, but like the size of a giant human. And what's interesting about homes in Nepal is when you enter a traditional home, a home that's been built longer than 30, 40 years ago, most homes are built in a particular way where they have a raised floor to them and they have a short ceiling at the very entrance of it. And that's because the original or one of the original stories about the Yeti trying to track people down comes from Edmund Hill.

Hillary's climbing partner, the Sherpa, who was describing something that he had heard from one of his climbing partners in the mountains, which is there was a man in his, I think it was a man and his son, and they were attacked by a giant hominid like creature. They tried to grab some of its hair. They ran away. The creature was chasing after them. They were trapped. The only way to get out of this predicament was to go underneath a log and stop on the other side of the log before it dropped off a sheer cliff. So they ducked underneath the log, stood there. The Yeti couldn't get under.

It couldn't bend down far enough to get under this massive log that had fallen across a ravine. And so Holmes and Nepal are now constructed to a point where if there's a Yeti, it's not able to physically bend down, step up and bend down at the same time to get through the front door of the house. So Holmes over there are all Yeti proof. I thought that was interesting. dude it's awesome yeah so billy let me ask you this who wins in a fight bigfoot or yetty

okay so big foot is a little smaller than yety i'd like to compare big foot to yety like brown bears to polar bears that's that's how i like to think about it and as we know to live in those climates the yey lives in a lot colder climates they probably have a lot more mass to maintain warmth and probably need to be a lot stronger than the Bigfoot. And Yeti's just had to be like 15 feet, like close to 1,000 pounds. I say Bigfoot's only about nine feet, close to like 700 from the descriptions. Yeti's trained at altitude, right?

So they're more efficient breeders. Right. They probably have, well, Gurkhas have insane. What's a Gurkha? Gurkhas are the Nepalese fighting force that the English used to use as like, special operations units. Okay. They were like the fearsomest fighters and they could fight for so long because they were at

altitude and they are thought to have had like higher blood cell counts, red blood cell counts to carry oxygen because they, you know, were up at altitude for so long. That's true. Yeah. Gurkhas are insane. That's true that, yeah, people that, like people that are native to that part of the world have higher. They're able to utilize oxygen at a better rate.

But like so many people have encountered the Yeti. Alexander, the Great has stories about the Yeti. from Pliny the Elder in the 1920s there's stories of Yetis the thing is there is fossil record proof of large hominids that lived in Asia

and could have easily crossed the Bering Strait much like how humans are thought to have gotten to America the same way and came down to the Pacific Northwest where tons of Yeti sightings are okay when you say When you say large fossil evidence, it's like what have we concluded from those studies?

Gigantopithecus is the giant ape, which is thought to be a giant hominid that lived side by side with many of the other hominids of that time, Neanderthals, humans, Denisovians, who are a new hominid we've figured out recently. and they're just these huge dudes who had, you know, family structures and, you know, had like sort of semi-advanced, not society, but, you know, more advanced than a gorilla, but not human-like, where they just roam and just eat stuff and just chill as these gigantic gorillas. They probably think humans and them interacted slightly and humans probably hunted them like they did. with most of the megafauna around the world to extinction. It's actually interesting. You know why megafauna in by megafauna, I mean like large mammals only really exist in Africa today? Because they evolved alongside humans.

So when humans spread across the globe, they're like invasive, uh, invasive species and killed all like the megafauna across the earth. So they killed all the big stuff except in Africa because they evolved alongside them. Yeah. That's interesting. so I'm looking up the gigantopithecus right now it looks like the gigantopithecus so when when hominids and the great apes when they kind of like divided one branch ended up evolving into things like guerrillas chimpanzees and then humans and the other side split off entirely and those evolved into gigantopithecus and then orangutans yeah so orangutans are still around from that side of the tree as like the last. living that we know about remnants. But Gigadipithecus, it is Billy's right.

Chigano Pythicus is a real species. Now, it is popular in cryptozoology and people that are interested in studying unconcerned animals. But I guess that kind of makes sense that if there are a couple families of these things or a couple of lines that still exist to this day, you could mistake its skeleton for being a Yeti or a Bigfoot, maybe, you know, living in vast cave systems around national parks, taking out families and their dogs, you know, and then they have to close up the national park to cover up the evidence of the Yeti or Bigfoot attack. But who knows? But, you know, there's the, if recently they found a homo florenzis, which was found on Florence Island in Indonesia. I'm probably butchering all the names there. But basically there was always stories. amongst the locals in Indonesia about these little people

who lived up in the mountains and who'd come down and steal children and, you know, like eat where they were cannibals. And then recently they found various fossils of very small people in that area. And they called the Hobbit people.

And basically, you know, the humans that got there encountered these people. And it's crazy how long in thousands of years some of these tales must have progressed but all of the Bigfoot and Yeti stories have all of these very long histories and there are the fossils there so you know maybe humans were living alongside gigantopithecus

for longer than the fossil record show and who knows would you want to be like let's just say that we found some gigantopithecus roaming around out there would you what would you suggest that we would do with them would you want to like I guess what I'm asking is at what point do they become so human-like that they should never be in captivity i can just imagine them just being tired and just being like dude like just leave me alone like i just want to chill out here in the forest and just do my forest routine and you humans are just pissing me off yeah i would maybe like offer him you know i mean hey teddy roosevelt advocate for national parks also knew about bigfoot maybe he made a deal with the big feet maybe teddy maybe teddy into

into negotiations. Is it big feet or big foot? Saskwatch. Yeah. So I'm glad that you brought up the Bigfoot Sasquatch thing because I feel like Sasquatch is a way better name. Right. Bigfoot makes it sound like it's completely made up.

Sasquatch makes it seem like, I don't know, I'm 0.5% convinced that it might be real. Yeah. Then that's the Native Americans name for Bigfoot. But everyone knows him as Bigfoot because he left huge foot. I mean, how do we know it's a huge foot? he uh everyone sorry there's probably big

female feet I mean it could be you never know misogynistic to these crypted primates Sasquatches the mother was the doctor you never think about that Sasquaches

yeah but by the way there's a lot of encounters like for example that video of the classic Bigfoot video where he's like walking he turns around turns around and he's low key thick

but no one talks about he's lucky really thick that was faked that one's fake yeah it's fake oh I thought that was the one they didn't know yet it's a fissing fake

let me see if I can send you guys the pictures did you guys get my last text I probably ignored it yeah yeah I think I had to block but they did find this one which was on a trail cam which was pretty recent

you know have cell phones and clear HD imagery kind of ruin the cryptid game maybe or maybe, you know, the cryptids also got cell phones and were able to, you know, report them. Like Ways? Yeah.

Like they report, no, it's a fake. That movie's a fake. Fake. Yeah. Or yeah, they, huh. But no, it's Bigfoot's, you know, there was a classic, there was a recent attack on a hunting cabin

where everyone thought it was a black bear. but you know usually when black bears raid cabins they attack fridges because the folic acid in the fridges smells to them like ant uh ant farm what's the name hermos i forget what what's group of ants called colony ant colony so and they like to eat ants but they didn't even touch the folic acid in the fridge so and then there was a bunch of you know damage that they thought a bear could never do, and all these hunters were maybe drunk and who knows what was going on there. But there's been a ton of sightings of Bigfoot across the Pacific Northwest.

And some of the footprints are, you know, they looked at the fingerprints of the footprints in some of them, and they all tend to have the ones that are not confirmed fake, all tend to have not spiral fingerprints like humans, but straight lines that are more resembling to some of our ape ancestors. Okay. But you tell me that the classic Bigfoot footage is not real.

Yeah, unfortunately. How do you know that, though? Do they admit it? Yeah, the guy said he was walking around a suit. And then they thought they found a body and they froze it in a refrigerator, but it was just another suit recently. Yeah, the thing is,

Guerrilla suits are just a recipe for Bigfoot faking. They're too easy to get their hands on. Yeah, we need to start controlling big, yeah, big gorilla suit control. But we need to regulate, common sense. Yeah, guerrilla costume control. So we don't have those. So this is the basic, you got out of the gaps principles, right? Before HD cameras and stuff, cryptids were rapid, right?

But like now, like you said, it's kind of killing a game. So now the UFO stuff is starting to bubble back up because it's like a little undetectable. so it's like the the shit that's out of our reach that's where our imagination lives yeah and also some of the sensors on all these like fighter planes and stuff like why don't we have any like HD cameras on these fireplanes why is it all like black and white like heat sensor footage i guess that's the only one that they tend to use or maybe they do have and they just haven't released it yeah i mean there should there should be that would be that would be just good stock footage for any flyover anyway You want to recruit people to be in the Air Force. True. If I can use your stock footage of your pilots. I see a lot of selfies in fighter pilots taking selfies. I've seen a lot of that.

You haven't? No, I have. Yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot of it too. Yeah, it's that like, is how loud are we knocking on them? We should just like, no, we're not narking. I mean, the government has TikTok too. People, I think, yeah, they're putting too much film out there. True.

respected fighter pilots that's that's one uh probably the most badass job that you can have although when was last time we actually got into like a fighter pilot dog fight dog fight yeah would that be the gulf war first the o g golf war no they blew up all the planes before they could take off or no what was that no there was there was one dog fight at least in the original gulf war no that was the seven days war where israel just blew up all of egypt's planes before they could get them off the sneak attack yeah the sneak attack on it um yeah i i feel like we haven't had there hasn't been an actual instance of two planes one from the united states at least

getting involved into like a physical altercation with another fighter plane in like 30 years but we spend 35 trillion dollars or whatever on the uh on the f 35 is i'm still kind of down with military spending because like we do need to have the best stuff so you can make that argument about like our fighter like the reason why we haven't gotten into dog fights is because there's so much better than every other plane that it's it's completely eliminated the even possibility of conflict i'm kind of down with that it's like insurance and then they just become members of the blue angels which are so badass those guys are awesome yeah yeah or commercial airline pilots and i much rather have super well-trained military airline pilots than because

they saturate the market and usually get hired by all the major airlines rather than like some dude you just decided to pick up flying because you need a job yep all right we got anything else we want to get into on this one i just want to say i hope that uh bigfoot exists that would be fire i think he may have existed that's what i think i think so i have this idea for a movie where um well it's just i would like to see it i'm not going to write or anything or maybe i should i don't know But like, it's where this other evolved form of human kind of comes out of the woodworks and it was like, hey, we've been watching and we've been, like, we just, we just want to negotiate a piece between the two and then we can't find a common ground. But I just, I just want there to challenge something, there to be something to challenge humanity because we're just so fucking arrogant. We do what we want, and there's just no repercussions. I just want something else, like some other species to challenge humanity in a way that

would bring out the better of us. Why do you not want us to be on top? Because what does that even mean? Our on top just means consumerism. Our on top means, I mean, you go to the moon and you plant a flag on it. Like you own the shit. It's just weird. Our idea of on top just means consumption.

So challenging humanity to be better and think more. And if you look at Avatar, for example, right? I actually, there was a book. by the same guy who wrote Jurassic Park called Michael Crichton called Congo where it talks about they discovered this like different ape sort of

The city of Zinge Yeah or something like that where they found Like there's a movie there's a movie about it Yeah and it's just It's like you know that's mind blowing And there were all the early accounts Of you know like Roman explorations The Africa always talked about like there was like these

You know humans that they could like they were as bigger than gorillas and like kind of also like uh bigfoot and yeties but crazy stuff all right you got anything else erin and it was like the inspiration for king con i didn't know that uh yeah yeah i don't got nothing else i just think that there should be another species? What if they live in the middle of the earth and they drive UFOs

and they come out of places like the Dragon's Triangle and Bermuda Triangle and the reason that they've survived for so long is because the surface of the earth has all like the meteorites like climate change

and stuff that kills stuff. The Younger's Dryest event. I mean, gave me a lot of what if they're already here and they're invisible. and they're manipulating us all the time and they're called angels and they're real and that's how sports games are settled yeah yeah god's got the buffalo wild wings overtime button right when it looks like our population is getting like a little too high he smashes that woo hand button boom uh

Oh, yikes. All right. Do we have any voicemails that we want to get to? Or do we want to save these for the mini-dosing? Do we do the micro-dosing now? I mean, we could. Yeah, if you want to do it. I really think it's called, I think it's called mini-dosom, Billy.

I'm not doing it. I didn't have time to get voicemails. Okay, we'll save that for mini-dosing. Yeah, sorry, I've been wrapped up in the draft all day. But there is one that we didn't get to answer from last week about Arian and him giving each of us. Oh, right. So, Aryan, last week, there was a voicemail that we didn't get to answer because you weren't here. And the caller wanted to know what superpower you would give everyone on macro dosing based on their personality alone.

Oh, wow. That's a lot of pressure right there. Yeah. Okay. I don't, I'm very specific, but yeah. Yeah, it's super specific. and without so how about this how about next episode i really think about it or on the next mini on the on the on the that'll be our first micro dose yeah our first micro dose is where i expound on

on that because that's actually interesting i want to put thought into it and make it creative and fun i like that love it do you want to do big t's underwear yeah why not let's take a crack at this shit you didn't get to do that last week either that's true all right let's go with um Tennessee coming off a win I don't think he'd do that because it wasn't a big win you know what I mean let's go with

let's go with Navy Blue Navy Blue Navy Blue Navy Blue Navy Blue So I think they're like a different Like a weird kind of blue He's got like four different shades of Navy Boxers let's see That's Navy that's Navy

That's Navy Blue bro That's Navy Blue we out here with it All right You two for your last two That's that volunteer connection Yeah you guys Yeah You guys are in the same boat.

I like that. Tennessee, keep winning. I keep guessing his draws correctly. That's what it is. You know what? Maybe that means that they're going to win the next week. Oh, this could be it because they want to know. Yep.

There we go. There we go. All right. Now Big T's calm. Come on, boys. There we go. All right. So big news in the world of Tennessee football, not only are they going to win,

but also we're just going to, we're being extorted, and we love it by Tyler Barron. So, Tyler, keep pushing the screws to us. Keep knowing your worth and negotiating until somebody tells you know. I want this thing that's going to lead the SEC and sacks. And like mid-season, like he starts to try to renegotiate because he's like, yo, listen, you know, I know I understand we're in a contract. And I'm like, you talk to me, dog. What's up?

He starts holding out on the podcast. We need three sacks this week. He lets his management company know that he's seeking a trade to the Joe Rogan show. Oh, man. beef we got beef though we just end up negotiate like what's that thing they do in auctions where they're just right artificially raising the price I think you just said it like artificial yeah they have like fake callers yeah yeah all right good episode this week guys we'll see you next week for a mini dosing or or fine micro dosing microdosing all right love you guys

Hmm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Oh. Thank you.