Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Dinosaurs

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we go back in time to talk about the beings that walked the earth before us, dinosaurs. Are the real and did they ever walk the earth? We even did a Dino Draft. You don't want to miss it. 1:30 Dinosaucers and Dinosaurs TV show 5:15 Update on merch and Billy 7:45 #MJInnocent 13:00 The discovery of dinosaurs 16:00 Billy culturally appropriates dragons 23:00 Dino style 24:00 How much does a dinosaur skeleton cost? 27:00 What has studying dinosaurs given us? 33:00 Society if we never found dinosaurs and oil 35:00 - 1:10:00 Dinosaur DraftYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back. It's Macrodosing. We're back. We've got our full slate back in the studio and on Zoom right now. We got Coley, Ariens back. Aaron, welcome back. We missed you last week on the 420 podcast. We got Billy. We got Big T. We got Avery on the ones and the twos. yeah yeah that's the word yeah one's and the twos uh and we're very excited about today's episode because the group chat the group chat got a little out of hand over the course of the weekend with uh how how excited we were for this episode this is going to be a fucking

wide open episode basically we're just going to talk dinosaurs just dino talk with the boys i actually asked pft uh yesterday and this morning i was like so is there anything else i need to know like are we getting he's like dinosaurs i want to know the biblical dinosaurs yeah so so that's that's what i focused in on this is some some biblical uh how that ties into dinosaurs yeah i think it's i think it's a pretty interesting stuff i love that does it tie into dinosaurs oh you you'll find out and i i just went around the office just taking a poll of people asking what what your favorite dinosaur is just random people that would pass in the hallway and do people's eyes just light up when they talk about dinosaurs it takes you back to being like seven years old when dinosaur

It was like dinosaurs and bulldozers were the coolest things on the planet. I could just look at those all day. But everyone flashes back to like their youthful exuberance mode when they start talking dino. So I'm pumped. Bro, dino saucers. Does anybody remember that cartoon? Dinosauces. Dinosauces.

No. Dinosauces. Okay. Avery, at the, and post edit, please play the, the intro to Dinosauces. It's one of my childhood, remember. I love that fucking cartoon. Dinosauces. We used to be four ordinary teenagers.

Until one day, we met some new friends from out of town. They were called dinosaurs. My friends and I became the secret scouts, allies to these dinosaurs from outer space, and joined in their battles against Genghis Rex and the evil Tyrannos. The dinosaurs are leaving, Bossessor. We'll follow them. Dinosaurs. Is it about, like, alien dinosaurs?

I mean, it's been so long, I couldn't tell you the premise. I just know there was a lot of color and movement and dinosaurs. That's basically what it shows about. It's a Canadian show that was distributed in the U.S. by Coca-Cola Telecommunications. Illuminati written all over. That sounds, I didn't know. That sounds sinister as shit.

I didn't know Coke on a TV topic. Is it the Coke brothers? No, Coca-Cola. No, what about the weird dinosaur costume, a TV show? It was just a dinosaur. Easy with the weird, all right? That show is a classic.

A fucking classic. Yeah, that she was. And it has the most depressing ending in television history. it stays true to the story of actual dinosaurs the last episode they all die they become birds oh it's grim it's grim oh i've seen that clip the whole family just like huddles together as the asteroid comes towards the planet and then like as the last credits roll it's just the ice age oh man then they like the flintstones just take over from that point on that we'll have to get into flintstones a little bit too because

that whole timeline screwed me up as a kid for a while. I thought that humans and dinosaurs were around together. Well, they may have. Fred Flint, yeah, they were. They were. We'll get to that. But like that Bronosaurus rib that Fred Flintstone would get and it would make his car tip over. That shit is a top five cartoon, like appetizing looking treat to me.

It's that. The beer from the Simpsons always looked delicious. I don't know how they were able to do that. But those are probably my top two cartoon foods that I would want to eat in real life. Biggs money always made Oh, Ninja turtle pizza for sure Bugs of money

Always made carrots And look hell of good Oh yeah Oh my God I wanted to fuck carrots up And spinach fan Spinnies from Popeye Yeah

I actually found Popeye's spinach In the grocery store It like was actually Poppice and spinach It was actually Yeah Yeah

I think It's not bad actually I like it I like it Spinage is one of those things Where if you put The right stuff on it It can taste good

But I either can I tried eating out of can. Spinage must have paid, like, whatever Coca-Cola paid to get dinosaurs on the, or no, was the dinosaur saucers? Whatever they paid for that show, I'm sure the big spinach industry paid double for Popeyes. Well, the reason spinach, everyone thinks it makes you, like, strong or whatever, is that

there was a typo that said it had more iron than it actually had. So everyone was like, whoa, it's so high in iron. It must be so good for you to make you strong, but it's really not that high in the Are you serious? It was all because of a type of. Yeah, it was all because of a typo. That seems like to... Spinach still is healthy for you.

Right. It's not like a protein drink. But kale would be what spinach wants to be. I got you. Wow. I'm saying. That's, I mean, good. You really just...

Great job. Anthropomorifies... Cale. Great job, though, for spinach. Like, what a stroke of luck. That's the kind of shit that you need as an industry if you want to, if you want to start, you know, sponsor. cartoons and being put on school lunches and shit.

So before we get into dinosaurs, which we're very excited to do, a little housekeeping, we got merch. The merch is finally live. It's sick. It's the best summer merch that we make as a company. I'm very, very pumped to get it. We're getting some ship to the office. You can find it on the Barstall store right now.

Aaron, what's your favorite shirt that we have? Oh, a black one. Coat with the macro junk, with the egg. alien on the front that's my that's my jump we got tie-dye we got all sorts of stuff check it out you will not be disappointed again that's on the barstool store also wanted to talk about billy because if you maybe listen to part of my take or if you follow some of us on twitter you've seen that billy is going to be enjoying his summer after he graduates he's got finals next week which he's he's studying very hard for i think you only drank three nights this weekend so you're focused

yes no but what happened was is I finished my regular coursework and then there's like a small break and kind of went a little you know didn't do as many of my responsibilities supposed to make a couple mistakes and basically it was kind of like yeah I got to kind of figure my shit out before I come back here full time and give this 100% full send um because before I was sort of just like being like oh you know I'm half in half out it's not what I should be doing so I just got give myself some time to get my shit right so I can come back and put 120% in. You want to have fun. You want to enjoy your, it's okay to say that.

You want to enjoy your couple months after college. Yeah. And so we're going to do that. We called it as Rum Springer, like when Amherst people go away and they fuck around for a few years and they get to decide whether or not they want to come back or get shunned. We call it a Rum Springer. We called it what, eat pray chug. Eat pray chug. How Stella got his booze back.

How fellow got his booze back. That's what Billy's doing right now. But he's going to come back. He's going to be excited. And actually, you know what? We've left it open for Billy. He can be as involved with this show as he wants to. He's not going to be in the office, but he can call in.

And when you call in, we'll have to teach you how not to breathe into your mic with every single breath. But you're more than welcome. We would love to have you on as much as you want to be on in the next couple months. If that's never, I understand. If it's every show, I would love that. But it's going to be totally. to you because I don't want to get burned out. I want you to have fun and enjoy yourself. So that's kind of where we stand. Is that fair? Very fair. Okay. Cool. So we'll take that as it comes.

So Billy will still be around. One other thing I wanted to get into. I don't know if you saw the trending topics on Twitter right before we started recording this year podcast, Aaron. Did you? I did not. Well, I think number three in the entire nation right now is hashtag MJ Innocent. Did we spark it? Did we help? I don't know. Maybe. I'd like to think so.

I'd like to think we've got the party going. I think two lawsuits just got thrown out. That's what I think just happened. Unbelievable. Dog, I'm telling you. I mean, not to beat a dead horse. But when you really look into this shit, it's fucking baloney. Is what it is.

Fucking baloney. Shout out to Mike Jay, the king. The greatest. of all time, greatest entertainer of all time. Name got tarnished. There's what it is, man. M.J. Edison. I'm with the hashtag. I did. I looked into a little bit more after we did the show.

And I'm still like, I'm still in the 50-50 neighborhood. But I was like 90, 10, 95, 5 before we did the show. So, but I guess a judge or a jury, I'm not, I'm not exactly up to date on the details of what happened today. But I think it was a judge. A judge threw it out. So, yeah, you might be on the right side of history here, Aaron. I rarely am not brother I rarely am not so this says

it was Wade Robson's case that's the guy that you brought up right that was like full of shit so it says it says this was one of the ones that got dismissed for the third time yeah man they keep trying and it's like

bruh they just they have nothing and their stories don't align they're caught in multiple lies it's just like if they were to just come and that's the thing like since the documentary and they spoke their truth or whatever, they have not spoke publicly.

And that's the thing. If you're going to be the beacon for sexual assault victims, like, and you decide to come out on a HBO documentary, then you go on Oprah, and then after that, you go radio silence, that's sketchy to me.

But you only went radio science after all the backlash because MJ fans are detectives, and they just, like, called you out, lie after lie after lie. And then you don't have nothing to say. I don't know, folk. I don't know. There you go.

Congratulations, Aaron. It's big day for you. It's big day for me. I'm going to go, I'm going to drink a whole bottle of wine today. There you go. Sheesh. Before we get into, we've got, we've got a lot of stuff we've got to talk about dinosaurs.

I've got like a fraud list. Dinosaurs, I think, are fraudulent. I've got, we've all got our top four dinosaurs. We want to do a draft. Maybe a dream blunt rotation. That's hot in the streets right now where you do the four picture. The dream blunt rotation of dinosaurs that you would want to have. And then we've got to talk about the conspiracy theories about dinosaurs being fake.

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Should we start when humans discovered dinosaurs and how they've become a huge part of what we think about when we talk about the history of the earth? Where should we start? It's a great question. I say we start. No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I was thinking, you know, dinosaurs were around for 64 times longer than humans have existed. So to think about that, we are a blip in Earth's history. And these guys occupied the planet, you know, 64 times longer.

Several different periods, you know, spanning. And even before that, there was so much more. And I feel like dinosaurs are a great sort of explanation. like to grasp how exactly we fall into Earth's history as a whole. Okay. I like that. I actually, I agree with that because a lot of times if you're trying to educate a kid

and you're trying to teach them about, you know, perspective and time, you can talk about how long it took a mountain to form or you can talk about how there used to be land here and the continents drifted apart slowly. Or you can be like there were these fucking cool lizards that ran around eating each other all the time.

And then kids will pay more attention to that. And so, yeah. Listen, all the respect in the world to dinosaurs, we are truly a blip on the radar compared to what they did. They did it for a long time. Humans are like a one-hit wonder compared to them. And so we've actually only been studying dinosaurs for a relatively short period of time even. So the first dinosaur bone was discovered, I think, in the 1700s, late 1600s is when they think they found the very first one. and originally they were like,

yo, this is an elephant. We found a, or a giant's bone. And honestly, if you had found just like a huge femur, you'd probably, and you were, you know, a lot back in the 1600s, a giant would probably be my first, my first thought, right?

Like, this is an ancient giant that we've read about in all the folklore. The Native American. Or dragon. Yeah. Or dragon. Yeah. So we can get into dragons a little bit because I,

there has to be a dragon dinosaur, right? Has to be. I don't think so. I'm a skeptic on that, but I'm highly disappointed that there is no dragons. So when I was in lower school, I took a course on dragonology that was offered by the dragonologist. Dragonology. Yeah, it's actually a pretty long story. No, there's this, like, fake pseudoscience book called Dragonology.

That actually has something, like basically creates a mythos, like how dragons are actually. real and existed with the dinosaurs it's like crazy but i feel like there's enough stuff that actually exists that you can study we haven't reached the point in in human knowledge where we should just be making up fake stuff and then testing people on how well they know are fake stuff that we've made up it was it was a very you know basically dragons existed in every single culture so the native americans um had dragons you know you know the as had as i'm going to butcher the hell of this name but as a quittal as a quito this long flying serpent that they thought they believed in you know china had their you know asiatic

dragons yeah big dragon culture yeah well that's different than the waver and the european dragon which is more of their traditional dragon you know what i'm saying that's no billy it's not true no no i don't know what you're saying no the what the fuck is a traditional dragon no a european dragon like that's green why is the european dragon a traditional one well the one that we think of what do you mean we i don't i don't think of no european dragon bro

they're the ones that like king arthur slayed okay i think of i think of the asiatic dragon i love billy's he's eurocentric with his dragon sorry he's appropriated dragon No, no, dragonology was very Eurocentric. It's a very, you know. You already said that was fake. You can't point to that.

There was a fake scientist named Dr. Ernest Drake, who they made the head of dragonology. And he was from England. And they went. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Who made him? Dragonology.

Dude, he's like a fake character in this like whole myth. But you said they made him. Who made him? Some of the, like Simon Schuster. I don't know. Oh, so the publisher invented. It's a fake dragon expert. Yeah, it's a fake, it's a whole fake book, but it's actually really cool.

I want to say, though, about the dragon thing. So this kind of goes to what I want to talk about later. I don't want to get into all of it. But the fact that all these cultures around the world have all these different dragon stories, very similar and none of them communicated with each other, would that not possibly lend itself to the fact that maybe these people had seen giant reptiles similar to that, that they then articulated in petroglyphs and things like that. I guess it could.

It could. Yes, in theory it could. I don't think so. The reason why I'm skeptical is because we haven't found any remains, right? I mean, there's a lot of, like, folklore that kind of permeates throughout human culture. And I think that's just more of our evolutionary, because of a byproduct of our evolution. So, like, when we see things in the sky that we're not familiar with, like, that just kind of, gets our imaginations going and all of a sudden European dragons pop up, right?

Yeah, could be. And to Billy's point, the Wyvern wasn't, it's a different kind of dragon, not to get all dragon nerd on it, but somebody sent me, somebody sent me an infographic about dragons last year and the Wyvern has four legs, right? No, the Wyvern has two legs. The Wyvern's front arms are also its wings. Right. Whereas they're like, they're the four-legged dragon with the wings on the,

back like a griffin that's that's different it's so dumb that we have science about something that doctor and a strake argued that the reason we haven't found dragon bones is in order to be flight to fly dragons had to have hollow lighter bones that didn't preserve as well are they just pieced out they just like left the earth flew away yeah that's how they died or it's also it is possible like possible that people would find skeletons of dinosaurs dig them up and their explanation was this is obviously a dragon and then you know over the course of the last several thousand years those probably got stolen or weren't taken care of so i think that there's probably explanations for for why dragons exist in every culture the native americans

thought that dinosaur bones they found were just these ancient giant buffalo that used to roam the earth like way back when that was their theory on dinosaur bones there's a lot of dinosaur bones across north america So, yeah, they were originally discovered back in 1676, and then in 1842, Richard Owen, he's an anatomous, he recognized megalosaurus as a part of a whole new group of animals, and he called them Dinosauria, which means terrible lizards. So he was the first guy to be like these were lizards. They were just giant, and they roamed the earth. And I always wondered how you can determine whether or not an animal had scales. They're always, your typical picture of a dinosaur, if you think of one, is like green scaly, right?

How can you tell what a dinosaur's body looked like? How do you know there weren't feathers? How do you know they didn't all have shells? How do you know that, you know, they didn't have hair that just grew everywhere? It'd probably be impossible to know, right? we're just kind of guessing as to what the outside of the bodies look like. They got a lot wrong. I mean, I have two.

I brought my dinosaur encyclopedias, some of my most prized possessions. Billy has it right. This one, my grandmother got for me at a yard sale, and it was written in long ago, like, 1960. And the pictures of the dinosaurs are very different. Like they have T-Rex standing very upright They have, you know, Aguonadon wasn't structured correctly They actually got that wrong in the museum of natural history

Like, yeah The first the first erection of T-Rex Where he was like standing straight up And they realized his tail couldn't do that without it breaking And so they put him a little more vertical Have you guys seen the TV shows that they do Where they explain how dinosaurs had sex? Oh yeah

Yeah, they play that for me in school It was very outrageous We played that for you in school? Yeah, like fifth grade, way too young. That's incredible. The illustration, we'll have to put the illustration up maybe in this video. Or, Billy, can you pull it up? Yeah.

Look up T-Rex sex. It's a cartoon that they drew, and it's just incredible. It's just straight up doggy style. You would think. Oh, I got like a full video. Really? Yeah, it was graphic. Is it a doggy style if the dinosaur is predated dogs?

It's we, it's dino style. Yeah. Dino style. That's a good point. Dino style. It should be dino style, and they certainly look like they're enjoying themselves. They said that the T-Rex had a 12-foot dick. It's pretty...

That's just unnecessary, if you ask me. Anything over six feet is overkill. I mean... But if you are a female Tyrannosaurus, you would like to be pleasure. That's true. They're hard to please. They are... Okay, yeah, their hands are so short.

they're not able to stimulate themselves, I guess. Oh, yeah. So it has to be ultra pleasurable. What if a dinosaur had like the shape of a vibrator? You know, the double ones, the rabbit vibrators? What if they had one that just went on to the clitorisaurus? What the hell is a rapid vibrator? Rabbit.

Rabbit? Billy, you have a lot to learn about the female gender, my friend. And you're in your sabbatical. Yeah. by the I want a book report when you come back. Billy pulled up my favorite picture, which is the brannosaurus is having sex in the water. Because the dude

Bronosaurus is absolutely going to town. He is having a wonderful time. He's just tilting his long as neck back. It's like screaming up in there. Yeah, Big T. wants to see. Yeah. The two things that are banned in Big T's life, pornography

and learning about dinosaurs. By the way, the brontasaurus is our first. I know we're going to Again, to frauds later, but the brontosaurus was a hodgepodge of a bunch of different sauropods, which are the long-necked dinosaurs. They basically found a bunch of them, and they couldn't find complete skeletons. So they pieced them together from a bunch of different ones. So the bronzosaurus is probably made up of ones like... Well, the whole act of finding dinosaurs, like fossil hunters, that is.

is a profession that intrigues me because it's only been a thing for a couple hundred years and really for maybe the last like 150 in the United States but people that like that's their job to go out and just straight up hunt for dinosaur bones that's one of the sickest jobs and I looked up how much it costs to buy a dinosaur skeleton do you guys have any idea how much it would cost to buy by a dino a full like on on in the Smithsonian deal yeah like a let's just say A T-Rex. How much do you think a T-Rex is going for? Well, Nick Cage has one.

$25 million. Billy? Nick, I don't remember, but something, he's got the skull. Yeah, Nick Cage paid an insane amount of money for a skull. He has a bunch of skull, if I remember correctly. Aaron, how much would you pay for, well, no, I don't want to say how much would you? How much do you think is the going rate for a dinosaur skeleton? Right.

I wouldn't pay, but if I did, I would bet $250,000. $250,000 for a T-Rex? That's kind of disfusc. I mean, dang. All right. Foley? I was thinking like 50 mil. Yeah.

What? Billy? I'm going to go like a full skeleton, like all original bones. I'm going to say half a bill. Half a billion. Yeah. All original, all original skeleton. If I was selling the dinosaur, I would go to Billy first.

You'd be the first. For sure. Do you have the answer? Billy would bid against himself. Yeah, there was one that sold for 32 million, a T-Rex sold for 32 million. But the typical going rate is like $6 million. I don't know if this was just a great T-Rex or I don't know what they're planning on doing it. I did the price is right thing.

You know, it's $1. You shoot real low. Yeah. But I wonder if those skeletons are all totally original because a lot of them have the fill in plaster in that they found the other ones. Yeah. There's not just thing. It's like a totally full skeleton original. Like they don't fossilize like that.

Yeah. That's how I thought 100 million. that would be half a bill so if you're if you're bargain shopping for dinosaurs a triceratops skull went for about 300,000 and to me that's that's the coolest thing that you can have is a triceratops skull it's like the ultimate dinosaur dude there's an alison chains album with a dinosaur skull on it that is awesome sick uh the triceratops there was there's been some discussion recently in the last 11 years about whether or not triceratops are real. It's like the Pluto of dinosaurs.

They keep taking it away from us and giving it back to us. Some guy was like, no, triceratops don't exist. And he was like, yeah, they did exist, but they were tiny. Wait, yeah, now they do exist. Now they don't exist. Turns out they do exist again. So just in the last 11 years, it's lived and died like five times. But triceratops, for my money, I think is the coolest-looking dinosaur.

Have we pragmatically gained anything from studying dinosaurs? Absolutely not I don't want to disrespect paleontologist right because they life work But I'm like have we have has it actually aided humanity in a way other than like you know entertainment like with like Jurassic partnership it's probably on like disproving creationism Fossil records we can we'll get into that letter it's not it doesn't disprove it no Brontosaurus is in the Bible okay The sun disproves it.

Bronosaurus isn't real. No, you're fake news. Okay, we'll get into it. We'll get into it later. But I think it's made us study asteroids more because if you find out that the entire species went extinct, you're like, wait, that could happen to us. So it's made us like do more looking for giant craters.

So a little craterology. Maybe like some type, okay, I either like the topography or maybe like, Understanding the different layers, the stratus, what is the stratus, strata, whatever. Like, where they, like, literally different ages, like in the world. Okay, that makes sense. How about this, Aaron? They got you paid. You would, you would not be rich without dinosaurs.

What was the team that you played for most of your career? The team that you were really good on. The Houston, Texans. Okay. What's the name of their stadium there? It's like LRG, NRG. Yeah, NRG Stadium. You know what they sell.

They sell oil. You know where oil comes from, right? Shout out to dinosaurs. Shout out dinosaurs. Dinosaurs got you paid. Dinosaurs got me rich. Shout out to Aldermiggas. I'm very curious where you were going on.

Coley, what were you going to say? Well, there was a point you brought up, and I'm surprised it took this deep into the episode to get to it. But the common misconception is that all dinosaurs are extinct. That's wrong. That's just not true. There are several animals still walking around right now that were alive then. And very, you ever see a sea turtle, that is a dinosaur, alligators, crocodiles, birds.

I'm sure Billy wants to talk about a lot of, like the weak ones died. I don't like that we cast the whole species of dinosaurs as cowards that a little rock took out. Okay. To your point, the shoe bill. I know you've seen the shoe bill. That fucking thing is, I think it's older than that. That thing probably ate all the dinosaurs. Yeah, he could probably have stopped it and didn't.

Yeah. Aaron, look up the shoe bill because that is a bird. Shoebell crane. Just terrifying. Terrifying animal. Alligators. Oh, yeah. Definitely, definitely dinosaurs.

I mean, some people think that one of the theories why they went extinct is that a lot of them just got too big. They just got too swall and jacked up. And their brains were so small that it became inefficient for them as like a body to even operate. A lot of the oxygen level back then was so much higher than it is now. And they think that some sort of a cataclysmic event, not just like getting killed by an asteroid, but volcanic activity reduced the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, causing it to be unsustainable to have those large creatures. It's like Jose Canseco. Yeah, exactly. They just got too big for their body to be able to survive.

Exactly. And yeah, and then the atmosphere went to war mode on them. I love it. There's also a theory I read that the eggs became unsustainable. Like a dinosaur egg reached the point where it was so big and so thick that the babies inside couldn't hatch. And so they just, their population started to dwindle because their children would never actually be born. And there's the rat theory. I don't like this one.

what will basically the first mammals were these small rodent like creatures that would run up in all the nests and just take their little rat teeth and crack all the eggs and then none of the eggs could hatch because they're all dead then they'd climb in the eggs and eat all the yolk from the inside just like parasites are we yeah are we're descendants of those aren't we exactly so we've been colonizing since the beginning of time yeah i guess so i mean to be fair, I would eat a dinosaur omelette. That's what would be popping. Yeah. They actually have, what are those bad birds? Ostrich. Yes, ostrich. Ostrich. They're actually good. Yeah. I would eat a dinosaur also for the record. And I'm not even

talking about the Flintstone version or the Bronas Forest Rib. When I was looking at these pictures, I would be tough though, you know? Alligator's good. Some of them. Some of them look like they'd be delicious. I made little mental notes as to which ones I think would be the tastiest. But yeah, you're right. A lot

of them would be just, I think, stringy, too lean, but there's some of them, some fat-ass dinosaurs that I would, I would absolutely eat. But yeah, so these are all the theories about how they went extinct or evolved. There's also, I feel like we might have left one out. Oh, there's just the meteorite theory. Yeah. Just giant Mount Everest size meteorite hitting in the K2 event causing the mass extinction, which would have occurred about 65 million years ago. it's amazing that there's still so much conjecture and dispute about about what happened to the earth because it's been i feel like all the facts have come out by now we've waited 65 million years for the facts we should be able to agree on them by this point the thing is the extinction event

wasn't just one day it was i think thousands of like half a million years maybe so it wasn't just like one day like all happened it was a gradual phase out where do you think that we would be as a society if uh if dinosaurs never existed let's just say for argument's sake um dinosaurs are big hoax the fossils aren't real would we what type of energy would we have discovered by now i don't think much would change man what if you don't have the if you don't have the oil to fall back on you better fucking figure something out right Oh, we would be way more efficient But we also may be way more theocratic

And not push secular science I'm listening So like theocracies like think No, no, right Okay So so so so like if religious figures are controlling the government They're not going to tolerate Like the like

Search for Science Okay Because they can disprove it without evolution so if dinosaurs didn't exist you think that like would still be under control of the anglican church no that probably the catholic church 95 thesis maybe but how to because evolution was uh really started getting gaining steam but it didn't have anything to do with dinosaurs it was more about like like i think the first like when charles darren was like um uh like the galapical islands like all that stuff like when he really started like changing his mind on it like that's what

but it wasn't dinosaurs it was i guess the see well well this isn't dinosaurs but mammoths a lot of mammoth skulls were found in europe and people thought that they were um cyclops skulls because they had a big mammoth skulls like elephant skulls get these holes like in the middle of their skull and they thought that was the eye socket and that was where the myth of the cyclops came from so we wouldn't have that's what I'm saying I don't think much would change other than our fossil fuels and a lot of our folklore wouldn't be here but I feel like we'd make some other shit up because that's what we do we just make shit up like literally made up superheroes and that's literally a part of who we are now yeah yeah it's a good point um do you guys want to get into some specific dinosaurs right now some of our favorites or you want to do the frauds let's um let's do the frauds after or expose the frauds in other people people's favorites. Okay. I like that. And just be prepared because Billy has written probably like hundreds of book reports about dinosaurs. He was accessing like all his old essays that he wrote in elementary school, middle school, high school. And he was telling me that he's just got some hot takes

that are lined up. So Billy is absolutely the favorite to win this draft for the dream blunt rotation of dinosaurs. But why don't we start? Let's go Coley, Arian, and then we'll go Big T, me, Billy. And then we'll snake it back. perfect all right i'm going with one i already know billy thinks is a fraud but that really doesn't matter to me like the general public this is the dinosaur that plays all day every day it's the velocirap it's a fraud it's the only it's the only dinosaur that has a professional sports team named after it the only one yeah canadian the jersey giant the jersey giant rooster has a skeleton that is bigger than Velociraptor skeletons.

Okay. Can it communicate telepathically with its pals? No, that's why we eat it. Yes, they can. The rooster can? Yeah. No. Billy's just making that up because you had no one. No, it can. You had them beat on a fact. So we don't really know the flow chart in Billy's mind goes, if you get beat, just lie. We're all witnesses to that. I agree with Billy, though, that it's a fraud. When we think of a velociraptor, it's not what Jurassic Park, what Hollywood told you a raptor was. That's not what they looked like. They were tiny.

They were the size of a turkey. Little turkey birds were... A shoe bill would absolutely dominate a Velociraptor. If you locked me to... All right. Yeah, I mean, Jordan would beat Ray Allen, too. That doesn't mean Ray Allen's a bad basketball player. I probably could beat the shit out of 10 Velociraptors

if I was locked in this room with it, right? They would dog your ass. No, they're this big. I'd punt them. And when they're... Listen, they're way smarter than you. It was... Billy would get dog

by 10 Velocerafters, though. Okay, maybe five, five. That's all they do all day is look for food. All you do all day is Google shit. It's true. It's true, though. The dionstoy that you're thinking of, it's called the dinoidinikis. So that's what the Jurassic Park animal is.

Or the Utah Raptor. Or the Utah Raptor. Yeah. So they're related. But they just changed the name and made it Velociraptor because it sounds cooler. But the real Velociraptor was small. And so, yeah. But hold on.

If we're all under the agreement that we can just name these old shit, whatever we want, I'm taking the Velociraptor as we know it. But I'm picturing the cool one that we're talking about. Okay. So you're taking a Raptor, yeah. So I'm taking a Raptor, yeah. You're taking the Dinonikis, Danonikus. Utah Raptor.

That's what Spielberg said he based it on, but it had a bad name. Yeah, I don't want Utah associated with my pick. So I'm just going Raptor. Yeah, you'd rather have Toronto. Yeah, I'd rather Toronto or Ford in front of Raptor. All right. So I'm opening up strong. I definitely have to rearrange my draft work because you took the Raptor,

but that was going to be my next pick. I figured to go off the board, hot commodity. This one is also a hot commodity. And another one that Billy probably feel like it's a fraud, but I'm just in love with it. It's just an amazing, graceful animal. And we're going to go with the Bronosaurus, right? And a little fun fact, it's one of the only two dinosaurs that have an emoji. So it's Bronosaurus.

That's good value. I actually Google it as of 2016. The Bronosaurus is back. It's back, baby. It's back. I apologize. I'm sorry. The Bronosaurus is back.

Big T was right I googled it right after he said that It's back But soropods There are some cooler Soor pods I'd say This is my draft boy Family you do your draft

I do my draft And we'll see who wins it then He's doing Mel Kiper on yours He's like I like to pick I like to pick It's a reach A little bit of reach here You could have gotten

Then the second round maybe Yeah that was the one with the It's like the biggest dinosaur Right one of the biggest Yeah We'll get into the biggest But it's one of the It's the dinosaur you look at

And you're like what that neck do Yeah Right Got it Might have been aquatic Oh All right Actually

From my research They said They say The original Thought was that they were Like Dwelled in like swampy areas But the more that they looked

That they didn't feel like it was They felt like it was more like Meadow and grasslands So was it a vegan Yeah Vegetarian how did it get that big that might be a dumb question but it seems to me like an animal that is like the size of a of a house how much does it have to eat in order how much how much grass do you have to consume to get that big they probably grazed for a long all day probably just grazed all day but i mean cows are big gorilla's a big they don't they don't eat meat uh so because they were so the lot of the herbivores were usually uh cold or more like lizard-like animals and they just eat all day and just get huge.

Like some of the largest reptiles today are, you know, iguanas, like rock iguanas, even though there is a Komodo dragon. But do they have natural predators? Do you know that? Who? Like could a bronosaurus get taken down? Oh, by a T-Rex?

By, I'll tell you exactly who will take a brontosaurus down. Okay. When I kept my pets, a good tease. Yeah. I was like, tell us, bro. What the fuck? I'm teasing. Oh, I'll tell you exactly.

All right, big T. So I don't even know. if this was going to be one of my picks, but I feel like I kind of have to go best available here, which I mean, T-Rex is available at the third pick. Fraud. I feel like you kind of have,

and Billy, Billy's going to say every dinosaur is a fraud, like unless it's the hipster dinosaur that he wants. But when you're doing a dinosaur draft and the Tyrannosaurus is available at pick three, this is the Kyle Pitts of the dinosaur draft. If he's there, like after the quarterbacks,

you have to take best available. Don't compare Kyle Pitts to the Tyrannosaurus. He's a unicorn. So is the, Tiran is not, not, actually, if you were going unicorn, you might go Stegasaurus, but. Yeah, I don't, okay, I know what you're saying. You just, you made your point worse by comparing him to a quarterback. Okay, he's, he's, penasool. Is that better?

Sure, yeah. Maybe the best player in the draft. BFT is thinking about Kyle Trask, not Kyle Pitts is. Oh, yeah, you're, my bad, my bad. Yeah, did you think I was talking about Kyle Trask? You're right. I thought, I was thinking about Kyle Trass. I was like, Kyle Pitts is pretty fucking good.

Like, he's. I got my Kyle's mixed up. That's a great comparison, actually. Okay. Yeah. So I'm taking T-Rex at pick three. All right. Yep.

That was going to be my pick. And if it's dream blunt rotation, he's got tiny little arms. He's not going to bogart your shit. That's nice. Good value there. Billy, you think he's a fraud? So there's a lot of sighty saying that his little arms were just sort of flightless wings. He had a lot of feathers, they think.

And he was most likely a scavenger animal that used its large jaws and T's. to crush bones and get to internal organs on animals such as like the brontosaurus and stuff like more of it so they weren't really predators but more just lumbering sort of scavengers and they probably did yeah land voles exactly just feathered land vultures i think that it probably looked cooler with wings yeah there's some pretty cool like art that people do saying what a t-rex would look like that that is true there are people that just draw pictures of t-rexes all day long and i think that's all that they end up doing my favorite thing about the whole dinosaur debate community is there are people who have like doctoral degrees phds that spend all their time getting to

getting into fights with other adults about what dinosaurs look like that's most of their job there's like a big they get mad at each other you've seen paleontology twitter yeah they get fucking heated at each other. They're like, no, you're wrong about dinosaurs. Well, this dates back so we can get into this, but there was actually dinosaur wars back in the 1800s. And that's where it all started. The Bone Wars. Yeah, it's bone wars. Let's do that after the draft. I do like that, though. Who's like the Skip and Stephen A of paleontology? It would be those two. I forget what is their name. Google them, Billy. But there was two dudes that started the whole shit off. And they were just like go at it and like I found this one and I found and it was just like the excavations

would get mad and they're probably like fortify uh fossilifying a lot of the machines we should we should try to see who could make one of them the most pissed off like with the drawing like everybody here should draw one to post on Twitter and see who would get the most pissed on artist rendition yeah actually what a T-rex looked like and you draw like a beret on them T-rex is more hats put like a Knicks jersey on one of them they were the first animals that actually made their own clothes. Like, prove me wrong. You know, you know what?

I would, I would just watch Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless debate dinosaurs. And I'm pretty sure that if you gave them a week to prepare, maybe even just a couple of days in the off season, they would put on a world-class debate about dinosaurs. I'm in on that. That's what sports programming should be in June and July. Like, instead of just trying to talk about baseball or, like, conjuring up all these, you know, Mount Rushmore season and all that stuff, it should be, it should be like, what we're doing, just a day on dinosaurs. I agree. I agree a million percent. I'm in on that.

You have a viewer in me if you want to do that FS1. My pick, it's going to sound like apster pick because it's not one of the big four, big five. Billy just saw my pick, and he's pissed off because I'm pretty sure he had it on top of his big board right now. That's how I know it's a good pick. The Spinosaurus. The Spinosaurus is bigger than a T-Rex, sharper teeth than a T-Rex, more fierce than a T-Rex, plus it had a fucking sail on its back. It had a giant, I don't know how let's describe it. It looked like a sail from a

sailboat on its back with giant spines. So I don't know it's just like an upgraded, the fully loaded Silverado edition of the Chevy Silverado if the Chevy Silverado is a T-Rex. But this dinosaur kicks ass. Look up pictures of it. You will not be disappointed.

All right. I hate that I have to like be so negative about all your picks, but the Spinosaurus was a quad like walked on four legs and was mostly aquatic and would only eat like fish oh no what is wrong with that it was basically like a glorified crocodile with a salons back but it wasn't even the baddest crocodile in the water crocodiles are kind of badass dude wasn't it was absolutely the baddest crocodile it was bigger than a t-rex yeah but sarcasukas was five tons bigger longer and heavier than the spinosaur how big was sarcasuka what was the three

Come. So, so. Billian, really Neil deGrasis Ticing all of our dino-pics. Spinosaurus was nine to ten tons. Sarkasukas was up to 20 tons or wait, 15 tons and would eat Spinosaurus. Let's hear your pick, Billy, so we can shit all over. No, but wait. I'm reading up about Spinosaurus right now and it said that they could weigh up to 20.9 metric tons.

Well, Sarkasukas was way. my estimates say it's way my numbers no but this thing would like eat there's actually there's a link called spinosaurus for sarcassookis who would win and sarcasugus beat spinosaurus does sarcasukas have a dorsal sale no but that's not cool it's literally the giant the largest crocodileian of all time anyway for my first pick I'm going to choose this one's hard oh i get the first pick coming back too right yeah you get too okay so my first pick is alasaurus good pick the lion of the Jurassic these guys were one of the largest carnators that also displayed pack like hunting abilities unlike the t rex which was usually a lone

scavenger these guys are what t rex and velociraptor in whatever raptor you want to say wants to be they were literally pack hunters they were found in packs and they were basically a probably the size of a smaller T-Rex but they also had mandible hands they could use and they're you know they like they could use them they can pick shit up so they like you took a right guard is what I'm hearing no no I took a I took a I took a explosive I don't know these guys are insane these guys were pack hunters. Allosaurus was the goat predator of the dinosaur age. And yes, they probably started to go extinct when the larger prey they preyed on

went extinct. And that's where in Tyrannosaurus, the scavenger came on to the field in guys' heyday. But they were ball until they couldn't like go anymore. They didn't have a quarterback to move the ball down the field anymore. And they just became a bottom of the league two and 14 team. They want championships. It sounds like they're a super team. They were. They were absolutely.

They were a super team. But they couldn't get it done on their own. No, they could. Well, no. He just said they couldn't. No, that was the transition to lying. No, no, no, no. Tyrannosaurus was like one good guy on a team.

He's James Harden. James Hardin has two other all-stars. On the Rockets. On the greatest players. On the Rockets. James Hardin on the Rockets, that was Tyrannosaurus. Billy, I looked it up and a lot of the concerns with the paleontologists about the Allosaurus say they had a very weak bite.

Oh, Damn. Is this true? Getting exposed. All right. Well, my, shit, shitty fucking dinosaur.

Well, my second pick is the largest land predator of all time, gigantosaurus. It was a T-Rex that was the biggest land predator of all time. And people say, oh, no, Spinosaurus is technically longer, but they're aquatic and they aren't bipedal. Can we, can we take a moment and just. whoever's naming these fucking dinosaurs have no creativity, dog. It's Bailey. Dantosaurus, spinosaurs. Like, what the fuckosaurus, man?

What is that? That shit is trash. Get a little fucking creativity in it. You also, you just drafted two different types of T-Rexes. I don't know if either of those picks were on the board. Well, no, no. There's two different types of carnosaurs, which are what T-Rexes are. You just described this creature as a bigger T-Rex.

Right. But if you guys think T-Rex. So when you take T-Rex, it's a fraud. But then he goes, you know what? I'm just going to take a super T-Rex. Yeah. Yeah, it's a super T-Rex. Yeah, that's how Billy works.

No, but these guys actually hunted. Whatever, dude. Okay, so they actually. So the gigantosaur, it does sound like one that's made up in a Jurassic Park movie, where it's like, okay, we have to have a bigger T-Rex. What are we going to call it? The giganosaur. Okay, done.

Movie written. Let's move along. So was it a real dinosaur? I have to check you. Gigantosaurus. It was the largest land predator of all time. And it was, its name translates to giant southern lizard. And yeah, it's so basically,

basically it was the biggest tyranosaur ever found. Okay. So you, after dragging me through the mud for my, my spinosaurus pick, you then. This was a land predator. Your whole thing was, why wouldn't she pick to Susan? The sarcassocus. The sarcassocus, yeah. Because I want an animal that can kill the bronzosaurus, not just like being ambush

predator and catch animals that are drinking water. So how do we- Why do you want to kill a bronisaurus? Niggins be chilling eating, yeah, they seem like a good guy. Bro, I want the, I want, if, what is the point of our dinosaur team? What are they doing exactly? The blunt rotation. We're chilling.

And you bring it, you bring it, you bring in niggas into the Seiford. I just want to be toxic, man. Yeah, it's coped out of their minds, ready to fuck shit up. Bad vibes You know what Spiking a blunt With fucking Angel Dess

You're doing too much A hole in the wall All right I guess I'll go I I gotta go With my dude The Stegosaurus

One of the One of the greatest To ever do It's side of pick Stegisors Just when you have the back The spines on its back You got the tail

That's got the spikes On the tail in case shit goes wild. He's got a weapon. He doesn't want to use it. He'd much rather just hang out and eat trees. But if Billy starts rolling up with his weird crew, then guess what? We're the only one that has a weapon ready to defend ourselves.

And I also read that the Stegosaurus could break the sound barrier with the whip of their tail. It was that strong. So that would fuck some people up. Fun fact, Stegasors has never met T-Rexes. They lived in totally different time periods. Because T-Rex is new better. Yeah. Yeah.

And it'll be better. So, yeah, Stegosaurus. Just an iconic looking dinosaur, too. Oh, yeah. He's a chill herbivore. You can't make a movie about dinosaurs or a cartoon and not have a stegasaurus. It's like you need the T-Rex, you need the T-Rex, you need the Triceratops, and need the Stegasaurus. Facts.

I'm with, I feel like I got a great value pick here in round two. I'm going Mosares, which is the. It's the sea dinosaur. It's in Jurassic World, it's the thing that they have the shark hanging and it comes up and just eats the shit out of the shark. Yeah. It looks like like a gator put on a whale mixed with a dinosaur type deal. It's pretty badass. That is a great, great dinosaur, yeah.

I like that pick. I like that pick. Thank you. I like your picks too, Erie. And I'm not going to shit on your dinosaur picks like other people. Oh, this is Billy over here bringing these toxic fuckers in the cipher. I'm going to bring the first air. dinosaurs to the mix, man, and I'm going

Teradactyl. Fuck! My bad dog. Somebody had to do it. That was a great value pick as well. So, yeah, the Teradactal, I just felt it's like iconic, you know, big as fuck. He's going to eat.

We ain't going to be toxic like Billy's folk, man. So, yeah, I got to go terraced. And you could ride him, too. You could just, like, hey, let's go for a spin. You get to go fly with them. That'd be sick. Yeah. I mean, periodactal is a great choice.

I also want to jump back real quick. I forgot to mention with the Stegosaurus. it had the smallest brain of any animal ever its size. I think its brain was the size of an acorn, and it was just gigantic. So you know it was cool. It was dumb as fuck. Super fun of smoke with it.

Yes. But yeah, Terradacto, great choice. Yeah, I'm surprised it was still there. You talk about, I don't know why he fell. It's kind of like Justin Fields right now. Should be a top of the draft pick for some reason was in free fall. I was waiting to scoop him up with one of these two. and it's just a great pick.

Billy, are you going to? What's your comment on it, Billy? I mean, great flying reptile. Wouldn't. I don't know. Do I have to smell weed with my dinosaurs? Kind of like. It's dream blunt rotate.

You can do it. All right. It's dream blunt rotation for everybody. It's Bible study for big tea. And then for Billy, it's just like, let's just say. Like, completing a, what would you do obstacle course? True. Yeah, dream lift partners.

Whenever I consider like great dinosaurs, it's like the biggest badasses out there. And that's Allosaurus and gigantic. All right. So just Billy's crew. It's just your crew. Yeah, exactly. All right, cool. I'm going to take and Billy's going to have to help me with the.

annunciation of this one. I believe it's patchy cephalosaurus. Yeah, the headbutting one. Yeah, they've got the literal helmet on. The Brandon Meriwether of dinosaurs. Right. Yeah, like if, like we're, we're chilling, but if Billy's crew rolls up,

I need to send this guy head forward into the pack. So yeah, I mean, anyone, your guy's dumb, but I think my guy could, they could smash heads like Rams and have a grand all the time. Pachycephalosaurus. Packy, okay. Yeah, yeah.

It's real, real thick skulls, right? Yeah, they're the ones that used to just headbutt the shit out of each other with these domed skulls. They're so cool. I would like, I would love to turn one of those dinosaurs loose on a building. It's a modern day building. Release one in New York and just see if it could take down like my apartment complex. You gave it 15 minutes just to run into it repeatedly.

The premise behind Rampage is a video game back in the day Oh yeah, yeah I guarantee you that dinosaur could take out Godzilla King Kong Pachycephalos? I think so I'm team Kong dog I'm not going to take no Kong tonight of dog My next pick

Was going to be Godzilla Good choice He's the biggest Billy wants to talk all the shit about his big bad dinas Do they breathe radioactive fire? No, they They don't. Godzilla and four, clean sweep.

Well, you have to take Godzilla in his dinosaur form, Godzilla-saurus that he originally evolved from. Fine with it. All great, Tom Brady had to start at Michigan. He became what he became in that next level. I'm drafting the potential. You guys know Godzilla's origin story? No.

There was Godzilla Soros was living on an island in the South Pacific. U.S. Army dropped a nuke on that island, turned into Godzilla. Godzilla and that's his origin story okay oh wait did you guys read that shit the other day came out that uh there were like billions of t-rexes that roam north america oh yeah no but not it was probably in the whole course of history there was like a million t-rexes but it's billions with a b with bill well at any one time i don't think there was a billion probably not they'd be like pigeons yeah the density of pigeons in new york city it just be entire continent filled with t-rexes in which case i would absolutely say i would call them super frauds

if there were that many existing peacefully with each other at any given time the alex jones of prehistoric animals yes all right uh it's my goal that's what i go all right man i'm going to pick this dude for no other uh reason then he got cool fucking name though this is why i he's just being a cypher chilling and i've got to be a cool cat it's a barionics and when you like when you look at him he looks like a a miniature well probably not even a miniature how big is this nigga um he is i don't know how big he is Billy you don't got you don't got no stats from me on how you say his name okay he's like 7.5 and 10 meters should be like 105 33 feet long but he's like uh he looks just like a another velociraptor t rex type but uh he just had the

coolest name of all the dinosaurs i've came across barionics it is a cool name yeah barriony he's got the he's got a claw too yeah yeah if his name was like barry onyx he could be a very successful r and b singer right now yeah barionics yeah onics man hey throw back group i heard that shit in a minute's a sick looking dinosaur i like it yeah it's good All right, Big T. I really honestly think I'm killing this draft. I think this is the best value of the three I've gotten. I know what you're going to take.

What? You're going to take Triceratops. Triceratops in round three. Also, first of all, they just look badass, but Coley said earlier that the Raptor was the only, I guess that is the only team that's named after one. But the Colorado Rockies found a Triceratops skull when they were building Coors Field,

and that's why their mascots are Triceratops. Yep. You see it give birth? Or when it was born the other day? Yeah. That was funny. Good choice. God damn it. I am a lot. He is good on his draft. He is. Big T's absolutely winning this draft right now. Thank you guys for the positive energy. I wish I could say that for everyone here. Yeah, me too.

All right. I think I'm going to go. I'm going to go with Megalodon. Megalodon, the shark, the giant great white shark. That's not a dinosaur. Why? Why is that not a dinosaur? How's it not a dentist, sir? It's a fish. It's a prehistoric fish.

I feel like it should count. Will you can I choose woolly mammoth? Yeah, sure. If you want to lose the draft. That doesn't count. Anyway. But Megalodon was sweet. Megalodon was a giant great white shark with a tooth as big as a whale.

I'm making that part up, but like it had big ass teeth. But dude, Lyplorodon used to eat Megalodons. I don't care. Yeah, because they're probably delicious. That's another bonus. Big tuna. You drafted a huge. huge tuna.

Anyway. No, it's just a great, great white shark. It's a massive. Why does Billy have so much disdain with everybody's pick? He wants to gate keep dinosaurs. He doesn't want anybody else to have fun with dinosaurs.

It's only him. My pick is the ancliosaurus, the largest. Oh, you know like that? The big club. That was my next thing. He's the big.

You can pick anything. I was going to boo. I know. You know what? I was being very toxic. toxic in this draft. I'm like being a dinosaur hipster talking about IPAs or some shit.

These dinosaurs are very cool, though. The ancliosaurus. I begrudgingly have to hand this one to you. Absolute tank. This is my next big. This is my next bit. Club tail. Like wrecking ball for a tail.

And they were huge, like bigger than a tank. They were about tank size. With a wrecking ball. Yeah, the wrecking ball. They would absolutely mess some shit up. Good, good choice, Billy. Thanks. I love it.

I like it. I think you have more. You got to go. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Sarkasukas. You're going to go with Sarkas. Yeah. Giant Grogas. Better.

Huge. It's basically the exact same size as a Spinosaurus, except it doesn't have a sail. It's heavier. It's teeth aren't as sharp. It's heavier. That's a source of, that's a source of great debate amongst the scientific community. It is higher. It has a larger jaw to bite.

The Spinosaurus was more just like catching fish, like a crane. People don't know Spinosaurus has a small mouth. No, it doesn't. It just apologized for shitting on everyone's thick. Spinosaurus does not have a small mouth at all. Spinosaurus has a big mouth. No, no, it's like a gay roll. Like we're talking American alligator versus the skinny gay roll.

Your group is so aggressive. Your group is doing like black tar hallow. behind like the garage and we we smoke in mid that's right I hate it Billy I hate that pick and you so you were talking shit about the Spinosaurus saying well it it walked around on on all four legs occasionally yes so what well you you thought I could compete with the T-Rex it absolutely could it was bigger than a T-Rex low man wins you ever hear about that yeah it had a lower center of gravity and it was bigger heavier and lower center of gravity no sarcas was lower to the ground but heavier

So it's a Spinosaurus. Okay. And you don't even have a sale on your back. Okay. All right. I think, so I'm going to throw you a little bit of a curveball with my last one. Because my last one is, I think it's pronounced the Trudon, the Tr-O-O-O-D-O-N. So the Trudon is a small guy, right?

Billy, look it up right now. It only weighed 110 pounds. It was about nine feet long, but it was badass. It was the smartest of the dinosaurs. It had the biggest brain to body size ratio. It was hyper-intelligent. They did hunting packs. They were just little cool guys to chill with all the time.

They had stereoscopic vision. Their brains were more powerful than I think most other living reptiles to this day. They could actually change the focus and the zoom of their eyes as they were looking at shit. That's fucking cool. These are some seriously underrated dinosaurs. Now, yeah, they're not able to go out and, like, take care of whatever weird dinosaur that Billy's dragged up out of nowhere, probably invented. Like, yes, they would not really be an asset in a fight, but they would be amazing just to hang out with. And you could probably teach them all sorts of awesome tricks.

And I actually think that the Trudon, I think the baby Trudon would be the second cutest baby dinosaur behind the Triceratops, which would just be adorable. We can all agree. Like right when they hatch, the cute little triceratops looking at you, that'd be so cute. The Trudon would be, I think, a close second because they are hyper-intelligent, big old eyes, cool animals. There's a really good conspiracy theory about Trudons. Hit me. It's more of a theory. So Trudons were thought, so they were the smartest dinosaurs thought to be precursors, the birds in many respects.

And many think that if they had survived longer, they would have became a dinosauroid. and be like an intelligent life form and many like there's there's mockups of like lizard people and they think they come from truons fuck yeah is that what is that the reptilian race that whole yeah some i i don't think it's the big like some people think they come from it to space like but they're like no they're evolved trudons georgia georgia soros my favorite reptilian yeah fuck yeah that'd be a fun episode to do is the reptilian race

yeah look if you look at this you put it into the it's just a very freaky photo yeah no they did Billy's right this is tremendous value for my last round pig I actually I chose

the most advanced species of any species to ever walk the earth you like what people thought the octopus oh wrong group I chose the Illuminati who'd you

who'd you just text a picture of dinosaurs too Billy Look at the picture. He just sent you. He texted that to a random person. What do you mean a random person? I texted it to the wrong group chat. That's, okay. So, Billy just texted a picture of the Trudon dinosaur

next to an evolved reptilian version of an upright Trudon humanoid dinosaur, and he texted it to the wrong group chat. If you know Billy, though, like how surprising is that? Not surprising at all. Oh, man. All right, Big T. So I'm going seismosaurus in round four. This was a dude had a crazy long tail that it used as a whip.

And so it looks pretty cool. So I'm going with, you know, round four, you want one good asset. And you hope he develops right. And it's just a badass tail. Okay. In the N. Jones. Yeah. I like it, dog.

You have definitely won this draft. That's just my beginning. Thank you, I'll use that in the promo. Just getting T-Rex and Triceratops. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. We have, yeah, we have to bear it. I think we were trying to get too, we were trying to get too cute with it. We did.

Yeah. If I got pterodactyl, it would have been a conversation. So on my pick, I'm going to stay in the air, man. There's one called the shit, I'm going to fuck this up, turund on. And they got me, they look just like taradacta. So it's just the homies, cousin. But what's the cooler about these ones is they, like, lived offshore.

So they were like prehistoric seagulls. They know what I'm saying? It was like offshore birds. So it's like I got the, I got, I got them from both coasts, both birds from both coast. So we don't have a good little session. I like it. And I think that the teradon or tyrannadon, yeah, taranodon. Yeah, it's, I think it's actually a better pick than the taradactyl.

I think that the taranodon is kind of over discussed when you talk about flying down. dinosaurs. It's looked at sometimes as the only flying dinosaur. But the Taranodon, I like its head better. It's got a cooler, cooler shaped head, I think. I agree. You got the small school version, didn't get all the height, but then once you get down to the combine, you realize there's a lot more value there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right. Coley, you got one more? Yeah. So this is, is this going to be a graphic? Yep. Okay. That.

heavily sways because Billy's been talking about like biggest this, biggest that. We didn't even talk about the actual biggest dinosaurs. I don't know what Billy's talking about. But since Big T did get so much value, I'm just going to go with what I think looks better on the graphic. And that's Robbie Sinclair. He was the oldest son from the dinosaurs, the TV show we discussed earlier. He was a varsity letterman, so you know he was an athlete.

None of these other dinosaurs have earned their varsity letterman jackets. So, yeah, that's Robbie Sinclair, put it on my graphic. I like it. Good, good choices all around except for Billy. Good draft. Billy's was shit. We should just feel good about it. What about the worst dinosaurs?

You guys got any ones that you really hate? I think the biggest sucker dinosaur is the seismosaurus. So the seismosaurus, they've only found one fossil. And the fossil that they found of the seismosaurus had choked on a rocker. rock it was it was eating a rock and it died and that's how they found it so it's like the biggest sucker by far look fourth round picks don't always pan out listen to decide it goes i mean how much dumber can you be it's just it's embarrassing for that entire species to be represented by this guy it's like if a hundred years from or a hundred thousand years from now they found a fossil of david

caridine and they're like humans were mad horny man that's crazy look at this guy so it's just What a loser? You choke on something that you can't even eat. That's tough. I mean, we don't know what they could have couldn't eat, though. Yeah, maybe they could have digested, but still, like it's allegedly. You've got a bad batch of rocks, you know? Yeah.

Some people don't, so we also don't know how long dinosaurs individually lived. So a lot of turtles live up to 200 years. It is very possible that some dinosaurs lived like hundreds of years. Do you think that humans were dinosaurs? was pets because they lived longer than us? That's a big T question. Yeah, Big T, what do you think? That humans were pets for dinosaurs.

Maybe. That'd be cool. I don't know. I wasn't there. I was going to say the biggest miss of the draft was the brachiosaurus. Long neck, chill. Guy just eats off the trees. But wait, Avery. Billy?

The Argentiniosaurus was the largest sauropod and largest creature ever to walk on Earth. All right. And that's another shitty fucking name. Wasn't he? Yeah. That's where they found it. They found him in Argentina. It was like Argentinosaurs.

Like, you think it's whack. Like, they had no, nothing. This is the St. Louisaurus. I just realized that with dinosaurs, I'm like the fan of that artist who like doesn't like people who only like the hits. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're horrible.

You're awful. Billy is the old golf and hockey media people who like don't want anybody to have any fun. They're like, if you, enjoy this at all you're not allowed it's only you have to just do it this way that's it's it's like you you like the iguanadon will the name three of its natural predators yeah exactly i just realized that but the iguanadon by the way iguanadon was kind of a dork i looked up pictures of him you'd be good for the dream blunt rotation because i think he was the only dinosaur that had thumbs so he would roll it for you but he was kind of a goofball too he's kind of like chunky he looked like

he had a tuba soundtrack. He would roll it, but he'd be like, I don't know if we should be doing this. I don't know, really, guys. I feel like you only invite me over so I can roll this. Yep. I got the second dinosaur ever discovered. Aguantan. Oh, really?

Yeah. All right. So the early dinosaurs, those to me, I understand where people are coming from with some of the red flags because they didn't have the controls in place that we do now. They didn't have like the body of research to fall back on. it would have been way easier to fake skeletal remains back in the 1800s than it is now. I mean, like, people didn't, people's teeth were fake back then. So I feel like if you're going to, if you're going to invent something, that would have been the right time to get away with it.

Yeah. Let's see what else do we have? Billy, did you pick the Susosaurus as one of yours? No, I just had I had it listed as a dinosaur that I looked up today. The zoososaurus had a fur coat on it, and they think that it evolved into being a sloth. It had just like, it was fur, really fancy fur from its neck down to its knees, is what they're saying. So it was like wearing a giant sick coat, like a pimp coat, pretty much. And then it evolved into a sloth.

To me, that's drip on earth? First drip on earth. Yeah, exactly. I think that probably would have been the most delicious dinosaur, maybe. Probably. If it's a sloth, probably has a lot of fat, probably not too stringy. Sloths have fat? They'd be kind of skinny, though.

Would you eat a sloth? It's not muscle, I guess. Yeah, it's not muscle. I don't know. I think I'd probably eat a sloth if I had to, but they're cute. So no. I don't think I can't run away. I want to hear this big T stuff, man.

All right, so here's the deal. Here's the deal. Listen here, buddy. Dinosaurs are in the Bible. All right. So, no, no, no, no. Let me, let me, here's the deal. Here's the deal.

Let me, let me get through. I have two passages I want to read. Don't laugh. I'm definitely going to laugh. I'm just telling. Take, take your headphones off. No, no, it's fine. All right.

We're going to have an open mind about this. So, um, first, so when we did, uh, the hell episode, we talked a lot about the book of Job, right? And Job was this, this torture. guy who God tested time and time again. So there's a part in the book of Job where he is he's kind of like reckoning with God, I guess is the words you'd use. And he's, God is trying to show him that like, I'm the boss. So he says, he's telling Job that if you can, he's like, hey, you know, I didn't just create humans. I create all these creatures too. Like go kill one of these and then like you can do whatever you want. So in Job chapter 40, verse 15, it says, look at behemoth, which I made along with

you in which feeds on grass like an ox, what strength that has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly. This is the key passage. Its tail sways like a cedar. The sinews of its thighs are close-knit. Its bones are tubes of bronze. Its limbs like rods of iron. It ranks first among the works of God, yet its maker can approach it with its sword. And then it goes on. So the key passage there is that its tail sways like a cedar. So previously some people hypothesized that this may have been like an elephant or a hippo, but those tails,

they're very thin tails, like not like a cedar tree at all. What does have a tail like a cedar tree and what does feed on grass like an ox, it was a herbivore is a brannosaurus, which Billy said earlier didn't exist, but then he, five minutes later, claimed that it did. So that could very well be a brontosaurus being described in Job chapter 40.

Now, in Job chapter 41, God goes on to describe the Leviathan, which is a sea monster, serpent, type deal. And he says, I will not fail to speak of Leviathan's limbs at strength and graceful form. What can strip off its outer coat, who can penetrate its double coat of armor, who dares open the doors of its mouth, wringed about with fearsome teeth. Its back has rows of shields tightly sealed together. Each is so close to the next that nowhere can pass between. It snorting throws out flashes of light. Its eyes are like the rays of dawn.

And some people have hypothesized that the Leviathan being described there could be some sort of semi-aquatic dinosaur. Like we talked about the Spinosaurus earlier. Some people think it could be that. Also, so the word dinosaur is obviously not used in the Bible because that word was coined in like 1842, 300 years after the first English translation of the Bible. But the word that is used is the Hebrew word T-A-N-N-I-E-E-N-I. I. Y N. Tanian, Tannin, however that's pronounced, which is translated as like sea monster or serpent, and then sometimes dragon. So it's like some sort of reptilian creature. And then also, like we described earlier, I think it's very interesting that all those, what's the word I'm looking for? Civilizations around the world had, you know, these dragon legends and these depictions of giant reptiles when they didn't communicate with each other. would have had no idea that those existed elsewhere also so wait was was the behemoth on nozor so that's so that's the other thing um you know we all no no what do you have does it do we have

questions is uh i have a constructive question okay but let me uh let me let me go to that point first though so you know the k2 event that he was describing earlier some people say could have been A meteor, one of the theories is that it was a giant meteor that crashed into the ocean and caused a tidal wave across the earth that killed the dinosaurs, much like a global flood could have been. That's true. Yeah, but the only thing is, if it was a tidal wave, it would have, I don't think a boat would have survived that because if you see would have been boiling. Well, there's, we don't know. Okay. There's a lot of things in the Bible farm were implausible than Noah's Ark surviving a global flood.

well maybe not if there's like two of every kind of dinosaur well so that's the other thing so we some people hypothesized that um god would have had so there were a lot of dinosaurs that were small that could have been on the ark but that god would not have put uh some of the larger ones on the ark in order to create this new earth for humans where there were no like giant gigantic pigs get fred and hogs get slaughtered yeah correct now my question was there any mention of a long neck? Not in that passage, but we don't, I mean. Are you thinking Wyvern? No, no, no, not the Leviathan, but the beast before that. Was there a mention of long neck? No, I read pretty much all the physical descriptions. Under the lotus plant, it lies hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

Aryan mentioned earlier that we think bronosaurus may have lived in swampy conditions, hidden among the reeds in the marsh. The lotus is concealed in their shadow. The poplars by the streams surround it. A raging river does not alarm it. It is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth. Can anyone capture it by the eyes or trap and pierce its nose? That's the passage of the hyna.

So just as I'm gathering, you think that. I'm not even, I don't know. I'm just saying this is what is in the Bible. I don't even know that I believe that. Oh, that's amazing. Okay, cool. I find it, I don't find it impossible. Okay.

So the, the possibility in your mind still stands that giant reptiles roam to earth less than 6,000 years ago. And there was a flood, a global flood, and God made a big-ass boat, and he decided. not to put some of them big-ass lizards on there. Yes, because, I mean, we, so we live with gigantic creatures that can kill us now. I don't see why it's so implausible that humans several thousand years ago could have lived with creatures that were, like part of the theory that people say, there's no way human could live with dinosaurs because they would have just killed them all. But like, we live with, we live with killer whales and all sorts of things that can kill us now. What? And we can't point to whales.

Why? We don't live with whales. One, we don't live with orkers. Two, okay, sure. That was just the first. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Orkers are known not to kill humans. I think there's like one or two deaths of an all time with only in SeaWorld. Yeah. Okay. That was just the first. They forced their hands.

What's an animal that kills people? I don't. That was the first one that came on my mind. A hippopotamus. Lions. Lions. Tigers. Bears.

Yeah. Hipos will fuck you one. Um, so like we live with all those things now. And, And some of those are, we think, descendants of dinosaurs. Okay, so how do you, how do you reconcile the fact that the old time thing? We don't date those fossils. So I don't know what I believe in terms of the age of the earth.

I think there are interesting discussions to be had about the useful. of carbon dating as it started and then how things were used to support a viewpoint that was already established after that. But I don't, I, I'm not a, I'm not a geologist. I don't know about all that. I don't, I don't have a stance on that either way. But if, if you do believe in a young earth and that, that God created the earth in six days, then those things in the Bible would support dinosaurs living with humans. I don't know that I believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old. But yeah. I got a homeboy who is a Bible fundamentalist. And he thinks dinosaurs are fake. He don't think they're real. Well, I think they're, well, you wanted to talk about that. But I think there's, I mean, I definitely think dinosaurs are real.

So I just get the feeling that if dinosaurs had existed in the biblical times or when people were writing. about the Bible. There would probably be depictions of dinosaurs in ancient books and writings. Well, that's what we think some dragon things might be. Okay. All right. Well, listen, I don't have, I don't have anything to disprove that the Leviathan or the what was the other one? Bohemoth. Behemoth. Was the dinosaur?

So I just thought, I thought it was interesting. My Snopes is saying mostly false. Oh, well, that's who we're going to trust is Snopes. You'll get me a break. Mostly false. Yeah, you should have just called the New York Times while you were at it. Or CNN or any of the left. Correct.

You nailed it. Wait, Snopes is left. Let's get Sean Hannity on here to figure out if dinosaurs are real and that. It's just the lame stream media. I got you. I got you. So, um, okay. Behemoth, possibly a dinosaur.

And also, what is mostly false? mean? I mean, it's a binary. Well, I didn't want to get into the whole aspect of, you know, the possibility of dinosaurs, which are proven to have been on Earth, you know, 60 million, 100 billion, 250 million years ago. But again, that could if I, we're operating under the assumption that you are already going off a younger framework because obviously if we just say, oh, well, these are dated. I don't want to get into all that because I'm not well versed in it, but it obviously worked. If I am operating under the premise,

if you're a Bible purist, you have to, like if you're a Bible fundamentalist, you have to believe that it's like around 6,000 years when you follow the lineage of, well, I don't think that's 100% true. I think a lot of,

I think a lot of people do think that. Find me a Bible fundamentalist that believes in a young earth that doesn't think it's like 6,000 years. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you're right. I'm saying I don't think in order to believe in the Bible, I don't think you have to believe that the earth is six.

Oh, no, no, that's not fundamentalist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. That's what I would say. But yeah, no, if you do believe in a young earth, it's like six to eight thousand years. But I'll put it to this way. I think it's more likely that, uh, that we're living in a simulation right now than it is that dinosaurs lived on the earth at the same time as humans. I think it's, I'll go, I think it's more likely that Jesus was a dinosaur than that

Jesus, the human being lived at the same time as dinosaurs. the well it would have been before jesus you the only thing that i agree with what you said there is a lot of real um evidence for a massive flood occurring across multiple different cultures mesopotamians no no no like and there's there's zero evidence for a global flood there no well not a global flood but like a large localized flood in the middle east sure things fled yeah yeah but but a very large one like something about something about the caspian sea and the division of pangea to say a section of of of uh an area flooded is very different than a global flood right that that's why i mean a very large flood that affected many cultures i think like the indus

like the indus valley which is now mostly arid desert at was at one point like a very promising farmland and was very humid and if a ton of water just like it's very possible how much do you do you guys think it would cost to like start up a dinosaur a dinosaur hunting operation well first we have to create some dinosaurs but you know what I mean oh like you're talking about like excavation like dig in excavation yeah oh you're talking about like grow your own just to dig their bones up just grow your own dinosaurs and then have like a dinosaur hunting ranch well you know about the dinosaur that they think might live in the Congo River basin, right? Oh, yeah.

Another. I forget what it's like Nessie. Yeah, yeah, it's like, it's like a nessy, like pleiosaur, long neck. Tell you what, let's get in, let's get into the fake dinosaurs and then into dinosaur engineering. But before we do that, Billy, you wanted to talk about a meal service that you're using, right? So recently, Green Chef kindly sent me some of their product. And it is, Green Chef is the first USDA certified organic meal company. Enjoy cleaning ingredients.

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involved and you know honestly green chef does most of the preparation for you all you have to do is cook up the ingredients they send you it's very fast and easy and organized so that you can you know really actually stick to your diet plan and get it going i've you know i was At one point, I was 240 pounds. Ew. And through heavy exercise and a lot of help from Green Chef's and ketosis, I was able to get down to a good weight, currently 210. So it works.

It works. And honestly, go to greencheft.com dash 90 macrodosing and use code 90 macrodosing to get $90 off, including free shipping. So I actually made one of their means. meals and brought it over, you know, Kate had a baby recently. Kate and my friend Pat from Hardfactor, uh, they had a newborn. I wanted to bring them like some food so that they didn't have to worry about what they were going to eat for dinner that night. They didn't have to worry about getting delivery, make it just like simple as possible. I made the, uh, Togorashi pork and

rice bowl. So easy to do. It's the ingredients are very simple. They make it very easy to understand how to put like a really solid world class meal together. Really easy to do. Made it. Took about 30 minutes to prepare. Took it over. They loved it. I looked like a hero, but in reality, it was just basically, like, made for me already. But it's super easy to do. If I can do it, then anybody can do it. It's an al-you-up. What's that?

I say you just told it on yourself, man. Yeah. Kate, please rewind 20 seconds and then fast forward 30 seconds. Thank you. Awesome. All right. So let's get into some of the heavy shit here. You want to get into the fake dinosaur belief?

A lot of people have been seeing dinosaurs across history. We have very famous Nessie, the Lochness monster, which is thought to be a pleiosaur, one of the long necks. I thought that was, I thought, I thought recent, not recent, well, relatively recent, that the dude that first said, talked about the Loch Ness Monster, he came out and said that it was a hoax, like right before he died or something like that. Yeah, it was a branch.

It was like a branch in the water. and he took a picture and everybody was like everybody was so bored for shit to get excited about that they said there was a dinosaur living in a tiny lake and there was mythical precedent that a serpent lived in the lake and whatnot but many people have explained it with seals jumping out of the water um and whatnot and then you know there's lake champlain um i forget with that champ his name's champ and he's another thought to be pleased for that's still around And then there is the Congo Basin Pleasaur. I mean, it's Congo monster it's called.

It's such an easy way to get people to visit your shitty lake. If you just start a rumor that there's a giant like serpent living in there. A mokele and Bembe. Okay. But yeah, so that's a fake dinosaur. But what I'm getting at is there has been a rise of people that think that dinosaurs are completely fake in the last six years. and it started really when Jurassic World came out was that the most no

what was the one that came out in 2015 I think it was Jurassic World I think yeah yeah the one of Jimmy Fallon holding the margaritas in it that movie that Jimmy Fallon's in that movie yeah he gets dive bombed by a taradactor

I don't remember that I have to go rewatch it yeah he's like an extra and he's just holding these giant margaritas and then he gets dive bombed and then he's in it for like half a second but yeah there started to be a whole lot of conspiracy theories A lot of, there's a, who's that guy in the NFL, um, played on the Rams?

Oh, William Hayes. William Hayes thinks that dinosaurs are completely made up. Oh, I mean, let's give credit to the original, Carl Everett. That's right. What did Carl Everett say? Carl Everett was just like, he said he never saw one so they couldn't have existed. It's not a bad way to look at life in general, like out of sight, out of mind for everything. Yeah, he's only the only shit that pertains to him and only him.

Yeah. That's honestly, if you're in the NFL, like, that's a great thing to tell front offices. Like, that would be a good, that's a question they'd ask at the combine. You're like, I don't believe in dinosaurs. I just, I just hit football players. Like, I just see what's in front of them. Just hit football players. Like, if I don't, I just play football, man.

I don't, dinosaurs, don't worry about it, nothing. I do think that is probably a really happy way to live, though. If you just, like, if I don't see it, it's not real, man. That's just probably a great place to be. You just don't have any stress. It's just stress fees. Walk around and it's there. Everything that's alive is right there.

Yeah. I'm going to adapt that. Tornadoes, not real. Never seen one. Never seen one. Doesn't happen. Nope. Nope.

Did you guys ever do any version of like fossil hunting growing up? Like I had a really bad sense of false hope with dinosaurs. Like we went on a field trip and they gave us like these like little pales and like brushes or whatever. And I sat for hours trying to find. something, nothing. What do you think they would have done if you had found something? Would you have gotten to keep it?

Or would the adults have come by and be like, thank you for your labor? They would have hit me with like the men in black, like the men and black thing where it's like, all right, you didn't see anything. Yeah. For me, it was like that with arrowheads. You go down to like a park near a creek or something. You look for arrowheads and then people would swear that they found one one one time because they found a rock.

That was a triangle. You know what I'm skeptical of? Four-leaf clovers. You don't think they exist? I mean, I'm just skeptical, bro, because I've never seen. I used to look for hours for them shits when I was growing up. Couldn't never find one. Got to go to Ireland.

Why, are there more there? Yeah, is that why? Supposedly. I think, what do you mean, supposedly? I feel like there's probably more four leaf clover in the United States. Well, where are the most clovers? Probably in the United States. You've got a 10,001 estimated statistical odds of finding a four-leave clover on your first.

try. Damn. Probably pretty high for your whole life. Yeah, I know people that have found multiple four-leaf clovers. I think I stopped looking at like age eight. The hardest one is the first. That's true. The second one, it's like just 500 to one.

You know where to look. Yeah, exactly. This quote kind of sums it up for me a little bit. I read an article about the rising tide of not believing in dinosaurs. And this post came on a page. parenting website called MumsNet. And you know that's where you're going to get some fire takes. It's just like crunchy granola mom websites, message boards.

They just, they have all the worst ideas. And then they've got thousands of people that will back them up on their worst ideas. So this user said it was like the biggest post of 2015 on this website, thousands of replies. The science behind them is pretty flimsy with dinosaurs. I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Nothing about dinosaurs is suitable for children from their. total lack of family values through to their non-existence from any serious scientific point of view. Any proper look at the facts will reveal that dinosaurs simply never existed.

Dinosaurs hanging out. So, yeah, that's basically like what she said about the family values part was my favorite part, actually. Right. How could dinosaurs not have family values? She got upset because like, where are the fathers? They're leaving the eggs behind. Coley, the dinosaur family on that TV are great family values. That's what I'm saying. It was one of the greatest families of all time. Yeah, nothing about them is suitable for children. She's mad because they were, she's taught, like, if dinosaurs were a TV show, I could understand it's too violent.

You don't want your kids necessarily to watch dinosaurs just running around eating each other. But that was what the earth was about back when they existed. And this lady just didn't, I think just mom forums in general are one of the biggest low-key sources of misinformation in the world these days. The more I'm thinking about it, that may have just been a Kyle Bauer post than that, like, seven years. Yeah, just waiting, just a ticking time bomb waiting for somebody to uncover it. I can't imagine the bombs he's planted in, like, mom, Facebook groups across the internet. There's, there is over 81 forum discussions on bodybuildingforum.com about dinosaurs. Okay, give me.

Oh, I'm sure of them. Give me a solid one. Our rhinocosaurus's dinosaurs. source that's a great one my favorite bodybuilding posts of all time is how many days are there i was it's the greatest internet thing of all time just a month long debate over how there are seven or eight days or no six or seven days there's a great video on it um the guy breaks down the whole thing it's the funniest thing i've ever seen in my life very funny stuff so confused as to why why is there confusion about they so they were talking about like doing a

like a cycle of steroids or something or like what And they were like, so if you do, they're like, you need to do it twice a day for four weeks or something. And somehow that spun into somebody's like, okay, well, you need to take it this day, this day, this day. And then they somehow came to the conclusion that there were six days in a week. And this guy's like, no, pal, at 70s, like, no, you need to check your math on that. And for like weeks, these people went, we'll, we'll, like, have to post the video or something. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh, my God.

It's from like 2004, maybe. like it's hysterical that's the message boards were popping yeah we might need to do an early internet episode because that yeah

that'd be great when people finally figured out how stupid that other people who are stupid exist yep like me I literally had

internet beef on a message board when I was like fucking 12 dude flame wars they got it was serious business back in the day

yeah and then uh the the aim chat rooms the age sex location oh yeah chat roulette no don't do that that's too well that's too late i did rap battles they had a rat battle chat room uh i guess i didn't live on i've never been on no that's why we need to update you on all this stuff like i got i got i got booted from a well for a couple weeks because i got too i got i was too real in the chat rooms and i was i was abusive to this one guy that cried and so then my parents for us yeah first first first canceled guy on the internet i got yeah i got canceled it can happen to anyone out there uh i still remember the guy's name it was smooth with like eight o's and a v at the end of it i just roasted the shit out of him he he basically had to retire from

the internet he never shows his face around the internet anymore um i did i looked up a chart of it's like an infographic or people that don't believe in dinosaurs and what their other interests are What would you say would be, like, the overlapping interests of a lot of people that don't believe that dinosaurs existed? Church. Christianity? No. Wow. We went straight for that.

Nope. You'd be wrong. Give me another crack. Give me another crack. Give me another crack. Okay. It would be. Bigfoot.

It's soccer. It's soccer. It's soccer. Basically, everybody that doesn't believe in dinosaurs love soccer. I don't know. I mean, if you got to see your lord and save your name bar every, every weekend, why would you believe in anything else? Should we get troops in here? Yeah, we should probably.

Oh, I bet you troops here. I bet you, does anyone have his number? I bet you troops doesn't believe in dinosaurs. We should text. I want to find out either way, honestly. Yeah. I don't know why this is, but the biggest circle on this list is, it's soccer fans. And I don't know if that means that a higher percentage of soccer fans don't believe in dinosaurs, or if it's just like the other way around where if you don't believe,

in dinosaurs, you're also a soccer fan. There's just so many soccer fans. I think that's what it is. The odds of like you could just kind of correlate anything with it. Yeah. What was the top three? What is the top three? So it's, I just happen to like eyeball it here because they don't have it listed.

So based on the size of the circle, it's soccer. It's games. I don't know what games means. And then this is actually very funny. The third one is wrestling. And I like to believe that that's professional. professional wrestling fans and they're like yo that's bullshit dinosaurs that's that's not real well it's what they can see in front of them yes we need to get brandon and troops that man got

body slam that's real yeah yeah i actually went to school with a girl who didn't believe in dinosaurs and i just looked her up on instagram to see what she's doing now yeah what is she up to uh it looks like she's playing soccer yeah posting it looks like it looks like she sells insurance oh okay which i mean great Good for her, yeah. You should hit her. Doc, sir. That, and I'm just talking. But yeah, I remember, yeah, she made it very well known that she did not believe in dinosaurs.

So I think it's just like people, people always want to feel like they're smarter than what they're being taught sometimes. It just feels good to be like, you're not pulling one over on me. But so jumping back to this mom, the biggest conspiracy theory and lie that moms are directly. responsible for Santa Claus. Santa Claus is actually like the biggest conspiracy that's ever existed in the history of the world, maybe. Because adults just get together and they all agree to lie to their kids about something. It's that that is, if you want to get into a fucking conspiracy theory, that is the very definition of conspiracy theory. And it's, it's a wonder that we don't all grow up with huge trust issues after finding out that our parents, which by the way Santa Claus is

still real if you're a child listening to yeah for the seven year old so this is something I'm having to deal with like in the very short term future with a one year old and like I've always thought like how do I go about it because the idea it's like a good lie in a way

but there's also some truth like there is truth to Santa you know what I mean like there are St. Nick and there's the whole gift giving aspect of it like there are truths there to draw on so I don't know if I just want to say like yeah we celebrate this guy who died a long time ago and here are your gifts like i feel like that's the best way to do it

without lying what about you erin what's your policy on santa uh as far as what's concerned i mean i definitely have thoughts about as far as a parent goes oh i think there's so little joys in this world dog that that that shit really brings little kids joy and so i don't tell them like they'll figure it out somebody'll tell them and i just don't think it's that pertinent of information so i like it's not like oh i got to tell them to the truth and keep it real with it. Nah, man,

big white dude run around, giving gifts, all that. We'll do whatever you feel, man. You'll figure it out. I agree with that mindset,

actually. Like, I understand it's a, it's a positive thing. But it's still also, like, this mom is like, we can't lie to our kids

about dinosaurs existing. It gives, dinosaurs give kids joy. Fucking love dinosaurs. Billy's face has just been lit up this entire time during the episode because he's just thinking about how cool they are. Like,

it gives kids a lot of, It's like, it's almost creepy joy, though, like, nobody, nobody loves them as much as I do. I didn't realize how much I loved dinosaurs till this was reemerged on me today. But I had a, you know, you remind me, well, I had this, and that's why I relate to you, Billy. I had, I had this, I don't know if I did, but I had a CD, I did say that maybe about DMX. I don't know, I had a CD when I was, when I was a kid of cannabis, of cannabis. It was like an underground rapper, like, nobody knew about him. And, like, I got the CD first

and everybody wanted to get the CD. Well, one of the homies ended up getting the CD and I was, like, so upset that he got it to that I scratched it. I scratched this fucking CD. My bad, though. So I get it. I get it, I get it, I mean, I grew out of it, but I definitely.

Yeah, it was one of those things where, like, my love of dinosaurs, like, once you started playing, like, sports, it was kind of like, dude, what the fuck? Like, who cares about dinosaurs? You had to choose, you get to choose. You get to choose. Like, some people have to choose between, a girlfriend and their friends.

You had to choose between sports and dynos. Yeah. Practice and looking at books of dinosaurs. Yeah. I was just like, this kid's weird, man. Like, and then, you know, like, too? Anyway. No, I mean, you know what people always say?

Liking X, Y, Z is not a personality. I actually do think that loving dinosaurs counts as a personality. Yeah. Especially in this case here. But, uh, yeah, Aaron? I was going to say, there's like four things as kids that kind of like dictate your life and like the thing that you like you do like like monster trucks or like dinosaurs is definitely one or like astronaut shit like you know what I'm saying they

kind of like guides who you become yeah I wonder if there's been any studies done on kids that were really passionate about dinosaurs compared to ones who were really passionate like you said about space or being an astronaut and like see how that breaks down as they get older see what kind of interest they get into. That would be interesting, actually. Instead of, like, the astrology shit, maybe, like, the stuff that you're really passionate about as a kid, that means more as to what your personality will become when you get older.

Trucks, Tonka trucks. What else was there? There was, I mean, there's, like, baseball. I feel like baseball was big for little kids. I think it's just lump in sports. I think you just lump in sports. Sports. What about, like, the kids who could build anything with, like, kinetics or, like,

Lincoln Lugs? Like, those had to be, like, rector sets. Yeah. Yeah. Those kids were kind of weird. Well, the kids, they were really good at it. That was, it was kind of a red flag. No, that's what, you know, where it is, it's that they had to play alone. So they needed something that could have occupied them.

So did I. I sucked at those things. Yeah. There was, um, video games should be one. Video games is probably one. Computers is becoming that way too, or kids just get like really passionate about electronics. Yeah.

Uh, what else is it? What are the other goat hobbies? What were you really into when you were a kid, big tea literally just sports like my entire life the only thing i've really like cared about is sports yeah i liked i like dinosaurs sports and airplanes i love the airplanes airplane fire planes yeah yeah the intrepid yeah going to the intrepid was like sick what about you avery what were you into trains were awesome trains my uh my aunt's my aunt's father had a giant train set in his house like insane like with like the crazy mountains and all the houses

set up. It was sick. And they're super expensive. Like the legit sets like with like the huge master controls. It was insane. So my stepdad actually has an entire fucking city that he built and he has a whole room just for a train set. And like he gets drunk like every Friday and he puts on his train conductor hat. I think I think it has a dead ass here. It's not hyperbolic. I think he has like this thing. Maybe he might be on a spectrum, but like he loves to watch shit go around. Right. He just loves to watch. Like, sometimes he'll go on the fucking, never mind.

I ain't going to say, I don't know if I devolved that one. But he loves watching trains. Just that go around. And like, he literally built like a city. There's an amusement park. There's a movie theater.

Like it all lights up individually. He fucking paints the people. There's like a farm. It's like the doper shit in the world. And like, I was like, I would now have the patience to do anything even close to that.

But it's such a dope thing once it's all put together. It's really dope. Do you think that he thinks he's God when he walks into that room? That would be fine. Like, that's why he likes it because he is in charge. I created all this.

It's a civilization. Now I'm going to flood it all. He just gets hammered and starts pissing on stuff. Firefighters, you know, like construction. Yeah. Yeah. It's really dope, though. It's really dope. Things are pretty simple when you're a kid.

Like the stuff that you can get really into, it's actually all cool stuff. Like getting really into the mailman. Yep. Like, that's, anything that's in a book, like a children's cartoon book where it's like describing the town. Goose bumps are like anything to Berenstein Bears have written. Oh, no, all the village people. Village people. But like, you know how they each have a different costume?

Construction equipment was sick too. Like the big diggers, the ones that would like take up like massive parts of land. And like, oh my God. The pavers, those are sick too. I thought, I thought you were saying you were just into the village people as a kid. No, no. But you know how they're all dressed up as like, oh, wow. No, I got you.

I got you. It was funny. Like it was an odd hobby. Billy, which one would you be? Which village person would you? I have no idea. I just knew that there was a bunch of people dressed up in like, like firefighters, police officers. Yeah.

Like cowboys, Indians. And I just Googled them like 20 years later. It's like, oh, it's kind of that kind of vibe. Yeah. Big time. Definitely that vibe. Yeah. Big time vibes.

One of the first. There was. There was actually a Berenstein Bears about the dinosaur bone. It was about dinosaurs. And somebody stole the dinosaur bone from the museum. They went all around town accusing everybody. It was like the Kirk Minhan podcast except for a bone. You know who ended up doing it at the end?

It was the dog. The dog took the bone because it just thought it was a treat. So spoiler alert for anyone out there that hasn't finished the case of the missing dinosaur bone yet. but yeah i'm not a fan of the burnstein bears really why i hate them i hate them whoa you know i just always i always pictured them in my head as like whiny little kid that's always how i pictures it in my head i mean i don't even know if they are but it's just like there was always like hey guys how do you pronounce how do you spell burnstein we're not getting into that right now mandela effect i'm with you dog yep there is a sense of entitlement from the barrenstein bear

family though because they're they call each other mother bear father bear brother bear sister bear they think that they're the center of the universe of the bear universe and everybody else in town has a name they're the only ones they get to go by brother sister father mother so are they the most famous bears they have a point the teddy bear teddy bear that's a good one but it's not really a character smoky the bear yeah gil seyer's yeah okay i'll be smoky might be Okay William Perry Yeah

Big Cat He's kind of a bear He's kind of a bear In certain communities Uh A fan of Bernstein Or Stein Yeah

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to making your own dinosaurs, which I'm on the record. We should have made Jurassic Park by now. How has there been a 25-year lag in between when the movie came out and us just now talking about potentially creating dinosaurs? It's ridiculous. This is your worst idea you've ever had. Terrible. I've had worse.

I think that we should remake the Titanic and write in bigger letters underneath God can't sink this ship, pussy, and sail it on the exact same course with the exact same technology. This is worse than that. It's funny. Also, saving out of life votes. Yeah. No, the exact same. We should run it back. Some billionaires going to do it. Like, I'm surprised Richard Branson hasn't done that yet. It seems like something that he would be into. But let's talk first about the Dino Wars. And I know Billy did some research. You guys probably know some stuff about it. I am not, I don't know that much about it. So I'll let you guys take it.

Go ahead, Billy. So there's two dudes, with awesome names, Edward Drinker Cope, which, and Othneill Charles Marsh. And these two dudes, one guy was at the Academy of Natural Sciences at Philadelphia. The other guy was in charge of the Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale. And they were both paleontologists that use underhanded methods to try to outdo the other in the field. They're bribing people, like stealing things, destroying bones, literally influencing parts of, like, the Native American wars to try to get bones. There was evidence of them trying to steal bones from the Black Hills while it was currently a war zone regarding gold and mining in the area. they did you know they did make immense you know discoveries in 50 almost so cope discovered 56 new dinosaur species while marsh discovered 80 you know marsh simply had more money and money at his disposal than cope and cope had a broader set of paleontological interests basically what these guys started fighting about is one believed in evolution marsh supported charl darwin theory

of evolution by natural selection, while Cope was a firm supporter of neolomarchism, which isn't successful genes get passed down to the next generation. But if you earn, like, for example, giraffes, the reasons this is under neolarchism, giraffs got longer necks because they kept trying to stretch their necks longer, to reach the taller trees and because of that constant stretching that just slowly over time got longer. Right, but wouldn't that be like

every generation of giraffes would be born with a small neck and then they'd have to stretch their own neck out? Are you saying like if you become... Yeah. In your way of thinking, like, if you get jacked enough, then your kid will inherit the level ups

that you've gotten in life because you leveled up yourself. But basically this was disproven by if you chopped off like someone's arm and they had a child that child had both arms so that's how they I would not want to have been part of that study well they did it with like animals but it was it's a disproven theory of a replacement for evolution but you know yeah they they really fought a lot on this back then they really had no idea what a lot of stuff we had today but they got a lot of bones and they put them together

when both of them died they both had these boxes of bones they were hoarding because they knew that some of the bones were actually like the missing pieces of the other ones bone skeletons so like he was like

he can't finish his T-Rex without like it's third rib so like I'm hoarding this bone I got a dumb question Billy why didn't they just work together because man is stupid because we petty as fuck dinosaurs are smart

so they could have helped each other out but they just had too much pride they wanted to be known as a bone guy yeah the bone wars yeah it was really known as both the bone guys and they could have just worked together unreal the bone bros they could have been the bone bros

has anybody ever had bone broth this is a lot off topic isn't that just broth what's ox tail I thought that they actually like opened the bones and they actually like scrape whatever, the marrow. Bone marrow.

That's how I said bone broth. Yeah, bone marrow. That's what I meant. Yeah, so, I mean, bone broth is a thing, too. It's like a trendy drink to have. But I just assume that all broth is made from bones. So it's probably pretty close to being said. I have had marrow, though.

Mero is, I don't know. It's okay. I like it, man. I really like it. My mom makes a killer soup out of the Thanksgiving turkey carcass after like all the meats off it. yeah it's bone broth i guess in a way i'm not gonna hate on that because i do that every single year too that's my favorite part make a thanksgiving suit afterwards uh so the bone ward i'm so sick of turkey bro i'm sorry i'm sorry i was gonna go off on turkeys i fuck it turkeys is the most

overrated food in our culture though it's trash turkey is trash it's just a part of our whatever culture you know what i'm saying whatever tradition we have with carbon turkey sucks turkey actually sucks you're not having the right turkey even when it's even when it's not dry it's still dry you know it would be a good use for turkey instead of eating them genetically engineering them into dinosaurs

no agreed we'll get to that real quick Billy Aryan you're wrong you've never had deep fried turkey I have had deep fried turkey I've had deep fried turkey I've had deep fried Cajun turkey I've had it all bro I am

astonished at how much people pretend to like turkey I love the area's point to people only eat turkey once a year it is not if you liked it that much you'd eat it more often what about putting in sandwiches that's completely different

they talk about like the actual and that stinks too it's not as good as ham it's not as good as any of its competition it's the low tier deli meat but like the turkey that we fucking eat That shit sucks. It's terrible. It sucks.

No. It's not good. The reason why we only eat it once or twice a year is because you can't casually make a turkey for your family. You're going to end up with, you know, pounds and pounds of leftovers. You can't eat entire turkey in one day. That's actually efficient, which actually be better for your family, especially if you're, you know, scraping together for meals and you cook a big turkey. And you can hand out turkeys in the hood all the time because it's cost efficient.

It's like they last. It's a pain in the ass to carve up. It takes a while. It's a big production to make. It takes forever to bake. You might as well bake a chicken. You might as well roast a chicken and takes like half the time. Turkey, I am an expert level deep fried turkey guy.

I will make a turkey that will make your skin melt. I will make a turkey that will make your toast. I make the best turkey in the entire world. I'm confident. I'm coming to your crib for Thanksgiving, dog. It's just going to be me. I'm just going to be some random black dude at your family's house. But, you know, my man says going to hook me up.

I leave after my plate. No, you are welcome. That would be great for the show. Yeah, it would be. Yeah, I will make the best turkey ever, so I get a little offended about that. But, Billy, you were saying that we can genetically engineer turkeys now. I do think that we should make, we have the technology. We just had Billy's hero on the other week, the LeBron James of Geo-Biohacking and genetic engineering on.

We should be at the point where we make dinosaurs now. So basically, there's been a bunch of different tests on chicken. embryos, uh, to turn off different genes to see what happens. And the, there's been about four, um, four experiments. One, they were able to turn, uh, a chicken's beak into something that looked more like a crocodile snout. Then they were then able to give the chickens more scales, uh, like proto, proto feathers, which are halfway between scales and feathers. and they were also able to give chickens teeth. So if you did all of those,

you'd create a chicken with scales, teeth, more of a bill, more of like a snout than a beak, and it would basically be a dinosaur. Think about it. Well, they are descended, so. Yeah. I mean, I just, that's just, when you start doing shit like that, I mean, we're going to fuck it up.

Something stupid will happen. There's just no... Do you think, like, Josiah could do this? I'm straight. Seems like a very cool dude. I'm not going to be around rooting for fucking geneticists to make dinosaurs. Also, birds... So there was two types of dinosaurs.

One had lizard hips, and the other had bird hips. And that's how we know that birds come from dinosaurs. And also, they lay eggs. and so like the whole warm-blooded thing so birds have different blood than reptiles in that they're able to keep themselves hot and live in more air colder environments and that's how dinosaurs were certain species what's the harm in creating a dinosaur answer me this what what would be the real world harm in genetically engineering one just one that's that's the harm because if if we had bone wars right them niggas was making shit up stealing people's shit

just to try to get bones who you like what do you think is going to happen when you when you give the green light to genetically engineer an entirely new animal and and and some scientists from across the pong be like well I'm going to do it too and some others go well I'm going to do it too and I'm going to make them bigger and I'm going to make them better and you just get a shit show of like you know they're going to they're going to make a T-rex and you're going to eat niggins like And make them nuclear while I got the chance. They're fucking around. Like, there was a, there was this one, there was this one, I was reading up on like,

like, um, uh, like some of the tests that they've done for like, uh, uh, gene splicing and stuff. Like they, they, they did this one. It was really cool. It was like, uh, bioluminescent frogs. And so like they, they made them actually like glow. It's really dope shit. But when you get like crazy people who are ambitious and smart, this is a recipe for

disaster. Like, we, we're going to. fuck it up all right basically you're saying we can do it just don't let Elon Musk near it because he would be Elon that's saying we can't do that's the danger this is literally what happened in transformers they tried to genetically engineer a transformer and then all war started again see I could see Elon Musk starting a war because he tried to do he went one step too far in designing his dinosaur by the one guy that we all agree upon that you'll be closely monitored you'll the dinosaur will exist in this pent area.

It will be just, this will be the dinosaur location. Because imagine this, Aaron, we have the technology right now to make dinosaurs. And you might die and never see a dinosaur. And then like one generation later, they get all the dinoes that they want. They get to go to the zoo and see brachiosaurus is hanging out and see the cool ass spinosaurus that's way bigger than the T-Rex. And I don't, maybe that's just me being jealous of the next generation. but there's no denying that it would be awesome. I am a thousand percent okay with never seen a dinosaur.

By there's an amusement park in Virginia that is a civil war reenactment with dinosaurs. And in it, they have like soldiers getting eaten by T-Rexes and all sorts of stuff. I agree with Aryan. I think they're just going to get hungry. They're just going to get hungry to make more and it's just going to be bad. It's like the most recent Jurassic Park movie was about them militarizing the dinosaurs. they made and how poorly that goes. I think that's exactly

why. It's not even just Elon Musk. It's everyone. Has there ever been anything made in humanity and doesn't eventually get weaponized against somebody and something? I don't think that good weapons. There's nothing. There's nothing. Plains, cars, trains,

guns. There's nothing that we've invented that's really fucking dope that doesn't get weaponized. Phones, radio. Right. The internet we're using right now as a byproduct of the military. 100% yeah podcasts that too like every no seriously everything i know everything but it would be pretty easy to stop a t-rex in a warlike scenario there's just simply no way that you can prove that you just take a tank and hit it with one of those tank rockets just shoot it you're just saying

like yeah i don't think that you can make like a missile that would lock on to a t-rex maybe you can I don't know. It wouldn't be that hard. The statement that you made is just so preposterous. I feel like a fool responding to it. What if the niggas was like way quicker than we anticipated? And this is 50-foot fucking Steph Curry that could just like dodge a rocket. Like we just don't know the niggas the big-ass muscles.

I don't, there's just too many unknowns and there's no point. What would be the point? Why the fuck would we dig up old problems? We got enough problems. You're going to make some more. No, stop it. Maybe it will be, again. this is the white people think it could yeah when billy said like civil war

reenactment with animatronic dinosaurs i was about to play guess the race that that invented that one i got a pretty good clue uh but i just think it would be awesome i think it'd be fun to have some dinosaurs running around within reason i also think that the human race in general is we've gotten too complacent where we don't have any natural predators so you know we we live too comfortably in our day to day lives sometimes no that is true that's what why a lot of that's well i don't want to get too far into into some stuff but that's why a lot of like fake outrage happens because people don't have real uh like problems to deal with like natural predators go i don't want to bring down the mood but we've been getting our asses handed to us by a

predator for the last 13 months it's true thank you okay no you could argue that that was yeah no we needed a little bit of adversity i don't think we needed that i'm i don't think it's i think it's woken some people up. And to my point, a lot of the country just doesn't even believe in it and hasn't taken as well at all. All right. I think we're not going to reach a consensus on whether or not we should bring back dinosaurs, but we'll put a poll out. If there were, let's start to find some common ground here. If we were to make a dinosaur, is there a dinosaur that you would find more appealing than others? Like, obviously, let's take T-Rex off the table. That was probably That was just anchoring the conversation with starting at T-Rex.

But T-Rex does seem like a bad idea from everything that we know about movies. So what would be a good first dinosaur? Triceratops. Everyone loved that. No, no, too chargey. Billy's going to say to everyone show, Billy, you just give us one. Aguanadon. Guantan.

No, no, no. Coley was right. Get one of the ones that, the aquatic ones, because we don't fuck with the ocean anyway. Yes, we do. We fuck at the ocean too much, actually. No, but I'm saying, like, reasonable people, like, you and I do not fuck with the ocean. No, it's not us. It's not us.

What I'm saying is humanity. Humanity. So, like, we like mass fish and it's like fucking up the ecosystem. So to introduce another predator that's not natural. Super predator. It's just not a fucking good idea. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's the most likely destination for us is because, like, we just throw everything.

We throw, like, there's an island the size of Mongolia made of plastic bottles in the ocean right now. Like, it seems like the natural destination. nation, let's make a megaladon, and then out of sight, out of mind. Like, it's swimming out there somewhere. Everything's probably okay. Well, the problem with that is, right? Like, I don't know if we all agree on climate change is the thing or not, but like the majority of the carbon consumption on our earth comes from the ocean. Like, and like if we keep killing off these fish, then we're going to have global warming escalate to a point of no return. And so this introducing another super predator

into the ocean it's just not a good idea though I would say it had to be a herbivore it had to be some kind of herbivore and like brunosaurus big as fuck cool to look at probably docile something like that but how do you contain the brannosaurus

you don't contain it this is the whole point of bringing back dinosaurs nigga you yeah live with the consequences I think I have a middle ground and it's something I kind of alluded to when we were texting about dinosaurs, you

get Elon Musk back in the fold because you have to go to another, you have a planet of dinosaurs, a different planet. So in case they get out of control, that's that planet's problem. I like that, Coley. I'm all right with that.

So instead of like starting the man colony on Mars, we tested out with dinosaurs. Yeah. And we just, we reintroduced dinosaurs. They got to be so confused when they're born And they're on fucking Mars I'm probably confused when they're born here too Yeah

All right, all right, I like that So we'll do like maybe Stegosaurus is on Mars Yeah No, I'm if you, if we're doing the Mars thing All of them bring the whole shit back I'm cool with it. Run it back? Okay, all right Yeah Run it back

Hell yeah The floods, the meteorites, bring everything back Let's just watch the show I'm into it. It's compromised, guys. That's what we do here on the show. We solve problems. I think we covered pretty much everything.

That was it. Perfect. I love that idea, though. Just turned fucking Mars into dinosaur planet. Well, that was my thought process is like, if you do believe in aliens on other planets, it really doesn't make sense that they would be humanoid like us. Because we got here after an entire different species already lived here. And the only reason that species doesn't live here.

anymore has not like we didn't conquer them it has nothing to do with us so if another planet out there did have carbon-based life form and didn't experience an extinction event another planet would just have modern-day dinosaurs more or less yeah fire and i would hope that they gain intelligence too like to the point of like us that would be fun but it would also make sense why we haven't had any encounters if they were just still dumb ass dinosaurs too yeah yep I'm a wee bit upset that we're the only ones that can, like, reason. I feel like it's just, it's lonely. Like, we need another species to run shit by before we do dumb shit.

Like this. Should we drink dinosaurs back? Like, no, I don't think that's a good idea, bro. Almost forgot about this, Arian, I need you to guess the color of big T's underwear. Red. Gray. Fuck. Prove it.

You don't know a gray? Prove it. Yeah. I mean, you have to prove it. You could be lying. Have I ever lied? Yes. Your underwear is made out of the same.

You're just wearing a t-shirt that goes all the way down. You're just wearing a long t-shirt. Are you wearing long johns? Like a, yeah. We're boxer material shaming now? No, I think that you're actually just wearing a long gray t-shirt, like a night shirt. I'm wearing a white shirt. Instead of underwear.

It just goes down to like your thighs. Yeah, it snaps. Snaps underneath. Like a onesie? Yeah. No. I've said onesy like sex to art school. You sure did.

It's cool, man. It's cool. All right. That's not a traditional joke. That was me claiming dragons for me. All right. So this is about to be wrapped up for the day. I think a good discussion on dinosaurs.

We should talk a little bit about what we want to do on next week's podcast. And if you have any recommendations for us, if you're listening, let us know. DM the main account, DM me, DM whoever. Just let us know. Let us know what you want. Tell us we're handsome and tell us what you want to hear us talk about. We've got some ideas that we're throwing around. We were discussing maybe doing something about Sam Adams.

You know him as the beer guy. But what he really was, he was kind of the Alex Jones of his time before the Revolutionary War. We probably would never have fought the war if he wasn't putting out like wild propaganda back at the time. stirred everybody in America up to rebel against the English crown, which, I mean, good for us. Good call. Glad it happened. But we can, you can dive into the stuff that he was reporting, the stuff that he believed, just crazy stuff, just like making shit up just to get people pissed off. It's actually a fascinating story. We might do something with him. What else were we discussing?

What if we built an entire train set and spent the whole podcast figuring out how we're going to destroy it? That sounds sick. that sounds awesome there's the the use of drugs in the rise of the Third Reich and Nazi Germany amongst the population

then amongst soldiers and amongst Hitler I'd love to discuss that at some point because I've read a lot about that subject and it's really fascinating shit like this dude was fucked up all the time

on like meth coke morphine and then the soldiers were on everything too so there's a lot to get into there What else do we have going around that we were tossing around?

Nuclear accidents, you said? Oh, yeah. A list of nuclear accidents and nuclear close calls. Chernobyl. Oh, yeah. Oh, Scientology was one, too. Oh, yeah. I'm scared of Scientologists.

Yeah. What about Mormons? Billy just putting Mormonism question mark? I thought that's what we're going to do for today. So I was like Mormonism. I like the Scientology one, man. I think we just let him know that it was Big T's idea. And he told us.

Big T said nothing about Scientology. They're the one group that I am. I actually do believe that they would kill me if I said the wrong thing. Fuck them, okay? Let's do that shit. Scientology could be a good one, though. There's a lot to. Well, Mormonism.

Well, Mormon murders. I saw that, yeah, the Mormon murders. It was fascinating. I mean, South Park did a great job on the history of the Mormon religion. I feel like if you want to have fun listening to a history of a religion just go listen to that instead of listening to us because it just evolved into us talking about what we learned from the South Park episode true about Mormonism Cole you got anything we talked about dreams um dreams is a very broad deep one

it is very deep um I think the Amish to lump them in with Mormons and Scientology as they've always wanted to be lumped in with I think the Amish is wild odd bar religions in general Mennonites. Hmm? What do you say? Save for the show. He said mininites. Minnites, it's like diet Amish, right?

Yeah, but Amish zero. Amish 10, not for women. Remember that, Dr. Pepper 10? Yes. People don't talk about that, that whole marketing strategy that they had. It was Dr. Pepper 10. It's not for women. I remember that.

That was crazy. I don't remember that. That's why. Yeah, it was like the manly man's low calorie drink. It was like five years ago, too. This wasn't... Yeah, it was very recent. It wasn't 1960 with like a magazine picture of like a guy with his smoking jacket and pipe and slippers.

This was like... 2011. Yeah, they were playing this at like the final four. It was nuts. Okay, well, I think we've got some good ones listed here. Avery, you got any? No, I think those are good. And then people will send us some and we'll try to figure it out.

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Avery did a great job of getting everything out, even though he wasn't even in this office. But this week, I think we're going to try to get it out pretty quickly, right? Yeah, 7 p.m. every Tuesday. All right. It will be out. 7 p.m. Tuesday. So if you listen to the show, just do us a favor.

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